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Speaker: So I have a story want tell you guys. A few weeks ago, I was on this hike and I came upon this wooded area. There was like this book that was kind of ripped into shreds and there were pages everywhere on the ground.
Speaker: And I think it was like a physics textbook or something. and I thought, oh, that's curious. So I took out my phone to take a photo of it, but I was interrupted because a man came from behind the bushes.
Speaker: um And this man, he was sort of tall and very handsome. He kind of looked like a 60s movie star. And he looked very normal. His clothes were clean.
Speaker: The only thing that was a bit off about him was that he was very sunburned in the face. um And as I saw him, I realized that I had spotted this man from far away on a hilltop as I was walking down the path and he had been staring into the sun.
Speaker: So he popped out from behind the bushes and he said to me, you like wearing that hat? I was wearing a hat. And I said, sorry.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, well, it's my only hat. It's, ah yeah, I guess, ah no, I like it just fine. And then he said, because, you know, lot of CIA agents wear this hat.
Speaker: And this was a was a black Carhartt hat. There are millions like it. Oh, I said, ah not me. I'm not a CIA agent.
Speaker: And then he said, ah oh I never said you were. And I kind of thought maybe he was fucking with me or playing around. um So I said, well, you know, it wouldn't be that bad to be a CIA agent. You'd probably get like a healthcare, dental. was kind of trying to make a joke, you know, see if maybe he would smile.
Speaker: um But his eyes kind of widened and I could tell that ah for him, I had just confirmed that I was a CIA agent um and that I even like had A lot of like insider knowledge about like their um medical benefits and stuff like that. um So then he said to me, so that would mean that you were involved with Epstein and abducting those little girls.
Speaker: And I said, ah no, I wouldn't want to be involved in that ah quite unconvincingly. um And then he kind of moved back behind the brush and out of sight and i begant began sort of power walking away as fast as I could without ah running because I was afraid he might ah shoot me in the back of the head. It's always kind of a worry of mine that when I encounter of a crazy person they might be armed.
Speaker: um So, yeah, that was that was an experience I had. What do you guys think about that? um Do you think I did anything wrong? I think that maybe one of your mistakes was ah like telling the story to us just because like I feel like you're in much more danger now as like, oh, Derek is the kind of guy who will...
Speaker: who's receptive to people who stare at the sun and to accost him in nature and doesn't doesn't realize until the very last second when he's exiting the interaction that someone could be armed. I feel like you've basically just put a shiny red target on your head for a lot of shiny red men.
Speaker: You're saying that he shouldn't ever admit to talking to a nut? Yeah. Because if he does, then the nuts will nuts will feel safe around him. do You shouldn't say publicly, I've entered a dialogue tree with a nut and I actually got seven steps into it before the conversation ended almost naturally.
Speaker: At which point I walked away thinking that I could have i could have died with zero awareness. i couldn't I wouldn't even hear the gunshot because the supersonic bullet would have ended my life with no... Well, it's not even just that the conversation ended naturally. You actually offended him so bad. He didn't want to continue it. i sort of i sort of blew it. Well, the conversation...
Speaker: The conversation started and I thought maybe he was going to try to snatch my wig, as it were, and take my hat. You know, I thought that's the question seemed to be leading towards like he likes my hat. But in fact, he was really suspicious of my hat. And he's probably right that a lot of CIA agents wear like a generic Carhartt hat.
Speaker: I mean, they probably wear pants and they wear a lot of normal stuff. standard Standard issue. Yeah, it was a good guess. I wonder what he was thinking about while he was looking at the sun, saying like, you know, probably having an internal dialogue with the sun, suspicious of it, saying like, you know, a lot of celestial bodies are round these days.
Speaker: i bet you think you're blending right in i bet you think you're real bright. He probably was just in agony, right? on earths He probably was just experiencing sort of ambivalent agony. i know this is good for me.
Speaker: I'll get through this. One more minute. but There's a reason people look at the sun. They believe it gives them something. Health benefits. What are the benefits? um I'm actually not really sure what the benefits are supposed to be. i don't think I've ever seen someone discuss the like specifically what they are. It's just supposed to be good. It's good for your eyes. It's your eyes.
Speaker: I know people say like ah sunblock... People think sunblock is bad or a scam. Even I am partial to that belief. But there's you never hear people say you know in addition to that, your the sun is really good. They just say like, the sun is bad, sure, but so is sunblock. There's no winning when you go outside. You have to mistrust everything that has to do with the sun.
Speaker: You're not supposed to go outside. Yeah, not quite. That's the only logical. No sunlight on your skin is good for you. At all. None. but But you need vitamin D from it? I don't get it. You can't you can just drink milk because that's kind of like a liquefied sunshine. Drink milk and stay in.
Speaker: yeah Yeah, that's fair. i'm I'm honestly sort of marveling at the fact that these nuts still kind of obsess over the CIA. It's such an old fashioned way to structure your psychosis. You know, I had that thought, too, when I was walking away. I was kind of mad at this guy for scaring me. And I feel like this guy probably just wants to be in the CIA. He's sneaking around in the bushes. He has all this.
Speaker: He laid a fucking trap for me with his physics textbook. He's the one that knows about the hatchet, not me. I agree. I mean, it's like ah he clearly... you know a A normal CIA aspiring guy would just sort of like hang around um skyscrapers, ah dimly lit ah office supply buildings and things like that.
Speaker: But this poor guy, he's so... um I just want to say he's such a vagabond that the to him, the woods or a hiking trail, that's as close as he can get to the Pentagon.
Speaker: um And it's really not a good fit for for a spy And it just you know it's just impolite to invoke the CIA when you're like um in the great outdoors. I feel like you know when I first went to the Grand Canyon, I took acid. And you know it's hard not to just kind of think about evil and the CIA a little bit when you take a psychedelic. But here I am at the Grand Canyon, and the CIA ist is becoming an intrusive thought. So of course, I take out my phone and I Google CIA Grand Canyon just to see if there's any connection that has ever been recorded.
Speaker: and of course, there hadn't. But it was a really interesting moment where i was brushing up against schizophrenia, thinking that like the sun could somehow be... Because you're in a beautiful place, you're like, something must be going on here. It's easy to do if you have imagination. Do you have a imagine three have a sense of what your of what your psychosis would look like, based on probably based on media you've consumed or how it's been modeled for you?
Speaker: i don't think mine would be CIA. No, i mine would definitely not be CIA. um It's really hard to say. I've thought i've really got it It's hard to tap into this. It's hard to tap in.
Speaker: Well, maybe it's because I'm already in and I don't even know, but... Yeah, what what would be different about your life if you became crazy? Would anything change?
Speaker: Materially? Potentially not. Yeah, potentially not. I think that's a good that's a good place to be in. I feel like ah you know you don't want to empathize too much with your secret crazy alter ego. You just kind of want that figure to live in the darkest space.
Speaker: part of your mind. um And yeah, you don't want to shed light on it in your mind's eye. You don't want to like imagine or give this person too much color or character um just so that when they are finally unleashed, they have secret powers. You know what i mean? That's what you want. That's the whole point. We shouldn't look inward just so it's a lovely surprise later when our... Never look inward. Never. Right.
Speaker: When I was a kid, I used to read ah books about poltergeists. And I remember reading, poltergeists are really common in homes with teenagers. And I was like, well, I can't wait to become a teenager so that I can start making pots and pans fly around the room.
Speaker: um But there's nothing... I mean, it's too late now for me to have those powers, I guess. I'm not i'm no longer a teenager. um But I'm sure that there's still some way to have a secret and kind of nutty superpower just by like being innocent about these things. you know Looking inward is the opposite of innocence.
Speaker: Some crazy people do have superpowers. What sort? there was There was that guy that could drink pee. Yeah, that's a power. He could. i mean, like, I mean, well, yeah, anyone could anyone who could drink pee. But um could you? I've never done it. So I feel like I can't. Well, I mean, there's a first time for everything. i think I could. i don't think I could drink aged urine. That's not. for No, no.
Speaker: no But normal urine. I could probably drink some if I had to. I think I could definitely drink some fresh urine. Yeah. It does seem crazy that there's no animal that produces a really tasty urine.
Speaker: Well, there's those reindeer in like, I don't know. Yeah, that they drink the tea. What's nice about it? Yeah, well, it's a psychedelic urine. I don't know if it taste It's the mushroom i was just talking about, Amanita muscaria. It's ah it the musimol, which is the... mushrooms They eat the mushroom and then ah the ibupatic acid is a ah chemical in that mushroom that makes you sick.
Speaker: And then there's musomol, which is not like psilocybin. it just has a sort of delirious, even sleepy effect. But when it's it's completely preserved throughout the digestive tract. So when you piss it out, you piss out pure musomol. So the shamans used to eat the yellow yellow snow and then they would um well they would get it quite sleepy. But it was the most fun you can have in Siberia.
Speaker: What about sledding?
Speaker: that and sledding yeah skiing snowboarding hot cocoa sledding is just a form of ah laying down ah snow bunnies hey that's a form of fun okay that wasn't racialized the way when i said that either i just mean girls that hang out the ski lodge obviously this siberia we're talking about naturally Yeah.
Speaker: Derek, you should you have i think you have you should elaborate. Elaborate more? What do you mean? I'm just saying I had never heard that expression before. Snow bunnies hang out with shamans.
Speaker: They're famous for for hanging out with shamans. Yeah, they've been photographed doing it. Near The paps have spotted them hanging out with shamans. They just want to be close to their power. They like the shamans.
Speaker: Yeah, okay, well then but maybe that's a quick reverse question. We all don't want to acknowledge the secret dark parts of us, but um I don't even want to ask. It's so corny to ask ah what would happen if you became better? happened What would you do if you became suddenly more sane and more and more ah you belonged more on this earth?
Speaker: I mean, I feel like I'd be unstoppable. Yeah, right? Really? I would really... That's sane? It's sane to be unstoppable? Look at this balanced guy. Can't stop him. People would sort of crumble before me. It would be sort of like a radiant sanity that kind of... awes the onlooker. Yeah, people would sort of time-lapse move through the stages of decomposition as you walked into a room.
Speaker: Derek lights a room so much that people leave shadow stains on the wall when he walks through that. They wither and turn to ash. Derek's smile can light up a room and actually turn your eyeballs into steam.
Speaker: He's the sanest man on earth. He's sane.
Speaker: He's sane. I can go to him with my problems and he'll say, no, you're not crazy. Is that what sane... I guess that is what sane people do as if they're in a position to offer that comfort. That's the only downside of being so sane is you can't really imagine what it's like to be crazy. Yeah, i think I suffer from hypersanity. That's why whenever you asked earlier, if picture my insane version of myself, I am so hypersane that it's not possible.
Speaker: But there are drugs you can take to treat your hypersanity. Yeah. Yeah, like like hot, old piss and shit. You know, it's interesting, like a sane person, you try to imagine like a man, a hairy man covered in piss and shit, and you try to imagine his stink.
Speaker: And then a sane person, it's so interesting, they don't get disgusted. They don't go, ugh! can't even picture that for too long. They just blink slowly and nod. It's just yeah that but that is so interesting that a sane person is so ah invulnerable to to the trappings of insanity, which again are shit, piss, stink, these kinds things. reminds me of something I saw a few weeks ago that was so disgusting. It should have made me feel insane. But it just was like, exactly as you described, I just blinked and I it was nothing to me, which is that we were gutting a sheep and the head had been cut off and we strung it up by its feet.
Speaker: And as they were like, I wasn't doing the actual gutting, like pulling them out. I was like standing back as we pulled the stomach out, all the stomach contents dumped out of the esophagus.
Speaker: So like the severed head was like throw vomiting. Yeah. Vomit. And it was like, and it made me feel like I was just like, wow, that's really disgusting. But I didn't actually feel anything about it. You know, you just like, were you were just like, oh a lot of colors. but Maybe there's a nice, interesting smell.
Speaker: yeah I feel like that's the biggest takeaway from engaging in any sort of taboo or extreme action. And that's what's so shocking about it is that it's nothing.
Speaker: yeah It's truly nothing. Whenever overdose on reality, you have to go to those places that people are afraid of. And then once you're there, you're just like, well, damn, I guess like this is I'm just looking at eternity. And eternity is is simple. i mean I can fit it on the tip of my finger.
Speaker: But ah try I think the thing that can actually drive you insane is just like ah like buying a bag of berries. like That can actually drive you insane. Drive you nuts, yeah.
Speaker: Nothing so well after that. Wait, can you expand on that? Blueberries? Or what are you talking see even now you're going fucking nuts. you Yeah, it affects other people. it affects your peer group. They're like, what berries? They're like obsessing. i really can't hold it together. Wait, what did you do You bought what? What kind?
Speaker: So many questions. and About these berries. That was weird. just Okay. yeah
Speaker: I saw a great movie recently about incest where they, they brother and sister sleep together. When they're done, they turn to each other and they're like, uh, so was just regular. So it was just regular. so So that was just regular sex.
Speaker: So that was just a regular experience. Um, Damn. and And they're just sort of talking about that after for a while. Like that was kind of just boring. Well, that's nothing special about that. If only they had kept that to themselves, because that's the moment that it becomes a really strange thing to have done is when you acknowledge how lacking it was in any particular. Yeah, that's strange. You should perform like, oh, this is so crazy. Exactly. ah Keep the moment going.
Speaker: I can't believe we did that. If I had a sister, I would really make her feel comfortable post-coitus by saying, like, we really shouldn't have done... That's, like, the social contract. That's what you gotta do. Yeah, you don't want to go too far violate the social contract by not... By not acknowledging that. Yeah, it's so rude. I would want things to change, though. I would almost kind of, like, pull open Wikipedia and see if, like, all the countries had different names or something.
Speaker: Like, you would you would want to, like, kind of be transported to a different universe. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You want to slip into a new you shift, right? that That's what they call it. Yeah. That's how you shift. That's what I learned on TikTok.
Speaker: That's how? Yeah. Siblings in bed. They tend to shift. Access your siblings portal. Let's shift positions. Well, this is something I always think about with cops and shit, like a like cops who investigate homicide or whatever. I'm like, the people, cops are the last people who should be able to see crime scenes.
Speaker: It should be... What? What do you mean? Everyone else gets to walk through it and pick it up Everyone gets to take one item from the crime scene. Yeah. I feel like the psychic load that ah these like sort of fat phone addicts are atlasing on behalf of the public, I think the public should get to enjoy the haunted house of a homicide crime scene. And then when they've had their fill and they sort of have that slow blinking realization of abject horror, it kind of calms them down. It's a tranquilizer. Then the cops can come in and go like, Jesus Christ, it's a mess in here. They they tracked everything all over the place. And then they can do their chalk play. Play with the chalk on the ground or whatever they do. Have their fun
Speaker: Their magic circle, their spells. Yeah. Summoning the judge. We will divine the truth from this. Actually, the truth of the matter is already known. It was a tragedy.
Speaker: It was a mess. Cops only job is to go to the crime scene after everyone's touched the corpse and say, this should not have happened. If the cops weren't allowed in, people would just go in and touch the corpse. That's what people would want to do.
Speaker: Okay, phew. Now we can access and we can do this. Touch. Let's do this. None of you guys have ever touched a human corpse with a stick. I mean, I've touched a human corpse, but not with a stick. with my car. Is it better to touch it with a stick or without? It's better for the corpse.
Speaker: With the stick. I think you get you get like sort of the illusion of interacting with the corpse, but really you're your sense memory is focused on the stick. So I think that changes things subtly. Yeah, so that when you reaccess it in your memory, you're just like, that wasn't me that touched a corpse. That was just a stick's memory. That's weird that i'm remembering that. but The stick can do more damage ah also, which I don't know if that's... I don't i think that's value neutral, I guess.
Speaker: Depending on how old the corpse is, you might poke right on through. Yeah, I might blow that shit up. You don't want to rupture the corpse just doing an experimental touch. Like, ah, I released it.
Speaker: Or I released all what's what's in there. Because they can pop, right? Yeah, and if they're old enough, it could it could just be a mirage that you're poking with the stick. It could just be a specter. A ghost. And then, yeah, your stick can go right through. All corpses, after weeks, turn into mirages. Yeah. Yeah, when corps get corpses sort of rot, they become, know, like a shimmering... Ghosts don't move around or do things. They simply lie where the body was.
Speaker: Yeah, gravestones are there to basically just cover up the shimmering ghost that is currently lying. It would be too bright. it would be ah light pollution. Yeah, gravestones are there to snuff out the all the light from the shimmering ghosts. Just is this pile of inert spectral blue glowing corpses.
Speaker: Who are laying down and basically having tummy time. Yeah, back time. Like most of the time. Although it would be nice to get buried in tummy time position. You know, apparently they say this about Jesse James. He said he wanted to be buried face down so that everyone could kiss his ass.
Speaker: But they did not honor his wishes because he was a criminal. That's sad. I know. We should honor criminals' wishes. I mean, yeah. Why not? It should be the one thing you get from committing a crime is yeah a wish. One wish that comes true.
Speaker: Might come true after you died. No, but the the people ah who are in charge of law and order and stuff like that, they're like, you already had your wish granted when you did the bad thing. there that their logic? Yeah.
Speaker: I think that is most people's logic, Derek. You already got something great. Yeah. I just never heard them say it that way in court. Well, the only reason that they don't say it is because we're ah we're coming up with a reality where criminals are only doing crimes so that they can get a wish, a separate wish granted, which I don't know if that happens. i guess they also don't want the cat out of the bag, which is you don't want to tell the rest of the people like, oh, you can get a wish granted once. I wish I could strangle someone.
Speaker: That's how most crimes happen someone wishes they could do it. That's why like people who fight for law and order, they're so anti-wish, really. they They're like, we should live in a world where yes, wishes can be granted, but they all come at a cost.
Speaker: Like a genie, basically. Yeah, police are genies. Three strikes is three wishes. Right? Three strikes, three wishes. And police love this idea of three strikes. Careful what you wish for is what the the officer says. It's what the prison warden says most of the time. What if my wish is to go to prison, though? I guess I just get my wish anyway. Yeah, there should be a way to just go to prison. Then you get a free wish.
Speaker: Can you go to prison without committing a crime? h You just walk in there one day and you say, i'm not going to leave. If you refuse to leave, I think that is a crime. Yeah. But you might just get fined. That's the problem.
Speaker: Yeah, that's bullshit. he's got to do it enough times, it becomes like a ah jail time offense. Yeah. Jail time is way better because the fine, you just lose money. Jail, you're like saving, right? You're making money. Yeah, saving on Passive income if you have good investments.
Speaker: Do you think they're allowed to check the Dow when they're in there? Or the NASDAQ? It probably gets passed around as like rumors on the yard. Yeah. I think you're allowed to do anything. You're just in jail. It's sort of like being in school. It's sort of like just being in school but you can't leave. You can kind of go around different places and do things. The teachers aren't teaching you. They're kind of standing there. It's school it's like everyone's a sub. Every day there's sub. You can sometimes get called to the principal's office but it doesn't feel much different than being in a classroom. The principal's also a sub that day. I don't understand. What makes them a sub?
Speaker: Just that they're not invested in the your well-being. They're not trying to nurture your development. Oh, so prison reform would just be making those subs into like full-time paid positions. Yeah, because right now, i don't really like how prison guards aren't paid right now. I feel like it kind of stunts their their interest in your well-being.
Speaker: we should just start i think we should pay prison guards and wardens way more so that they're really invested in their work. I have this question from the conspiracy subreddit. It's quite long, but I feel like it's going to be worth it to read.
Speaker: I would love if one of you read it. i guess whoever... I mean, maybe Summer. I mean, yeah guest. Summer, let's do it. Our honored guest. have to do it And by the way, Summer, welcome to our show. It's so great to have you.
Speaker: Thanks. Alright, I'll read this. What if the biggest conspiracy ever is that imagination isn't imagination at all? It's the original layer of reality itself and they hid it from us.
Speaker: Alright, look, I know this is gonna sound wild, but stay with me because I swear this actually makes more sense than anything we've ever been taught. I don't even want to call it imagination anymore because imagination sounds like something fake, something childish.
Speaker: The word I'm using now is omnitheory, meaning the place where everything that ever can exist already exists at the same time before anything becomes physical. Now here's the actual conspiracy.
Speaker: What if omnitheory was the first layer of reality and physical existence, atoms, physics, limitations and all that only came later as a downgrade so we'd forget what we really are?
Speaker: Because think about this, atoms are basically pixels. Pixels only show what the processor tells them to show. Something is projecting a shared image onto atoms, so all 8 billion of us see the same reality without comparing notes.
Speaker: That's impossible unless there's a single main server behind everything. And that main server would have been Omnitheory, pure unfiltered creation, where anything can become anything with no laws stopping it.
Speaker: So what happened? Why are we stuck here? Maybe the first mistake ever was separating nothing from something. Maybe everything was supposed to stay unified. Maybe reality only formed because something slipped.
Speaker: And once forms appeared, everything started dividing. Layers stopped interacting. We forgot the original layer. Telepathy got cut off. Manifestation got blocked. We got placed into the physical mode of the universe, like some kind of filtering stage.
Speaker: And now we think this is the real world. Here's the conspiracy part. You already said that. What if the people in power know all of this? What if the whole system exists to make sure we never figure out how to reconnect to omni theory again?
Speaker: Think about it. They fill our lives with stress and work so we never sit still long enough to think clearly. They teach us the laws of physics, like they're absolute, even though half of them don't explain anything.
Speaker: They mock telepathy. manifestation, synchronicity is anything that hints at the old layer. They replaced imagination with entertainment, so we use it, but never directly. And they made the physical world feel like the only world.
Speaker: Here's what I'm thinking now. If everything began from Omnitheory, the base layer, then even now we're still connected to it. Meaning, theoretically, a human should be able to reconstruct or deconstruct atoms using nothing but the mind.
Speaker: If that layer wasn't being blocked. And honestly, the more you look at the universe, the less physics makes sense. And the more imagination explains everything perfectly. Maybe we're all still one thing, divided into forms, acting out endless scenarios until we remember what's actually going on. And maybe remembering is the entire point.
Speaker: Wow. Great great reading. Really good. Yeah. I like when people write that way where they write three paragraphs and they go, now here's where it gets interesting. And then they reiterate it. And then one more sort of aside where like, here's where I'm starting to get really into this.
Speaker: these wos The writing style felt very like, I don't think it was actually written with ChatGPT, but it was almost like he was imitating... How it's structured. Yeah. how that Like the structure. I do think this came from the human body, but I do too. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. But this is a human mind that's been poisoned by chat GPT. Yeah. Well, also it's just like it it was three times longer than it needed to be as chat GPT writing often is. um Well, Omnitheory, what do we guys think, Omnitheory? Because to me, I i agree with the most of this. I mean, I've i've felt this profound sense that atoms, I don't agree that atoms are... I don't mean, atoms are so small. We should be able to anything to them. You know, like atoms, it's so interesting. I've never seen one, but people say that, you know, it's the building block of the universe, blah, blah, blah. It's all anybody ever talks about. Right.
Speaker: It seems like if atoms exist, that the only people who can see them are like people. People people can see them. I don't think a bug can see an atom. And I don't think and a hypothetical alien can see an atom.
Speaker: Seems like we invented microscopes and now we can see atoms. But even if there was another super advanced alien race, I doubt that their microscope would see the same atoms that we're seeing. I bet that they've got a just a different sensory experience of the of the very small.
Speaker: However, even if that's true and there's some kind of block happening, I feel like to enter Omnitheory... Omnitheory. Omnitheory, by the way, is not the name of the theory. no it's the name of the imaginative realm. imagine Right, it's the name of the realm. yeah To enter Omnitheory, it just sounds like like... Let's say we wanted to to shed this crazy, calcifying prison of belief that the elites have imposed upon us.
Speaker: It just sounds like we have to go outside and take deep breaths and go, wow, what if bubbles are like... blue bubbles. Like, I don't know how to enter the Omnitheory. Even with the best of intentions, it feels impossible to go to the imaginary place. It's a little bit confusing because, okay, so everything is real. Everything, um we're kind of just free-floating imaginary telepaths. So, how did they make buildings made ah be made out of concrete and stuff to trap us or whatever happened? And why? they i guess they used their imagination correctly.
Speaker: Their imagination was even more powerful than ours. And then they tricked us using their imagination to create imaginary TV shows that would be we'd be distracted by so that we can't imagine quite well enough.
Speaker: yeah I'm sure the people who invented like the ah cathode ray tube television, like making ah a crazy like laser beam of electrons and a surface with like tiny individual little cells of red, green, and blue to broadcast ah signals. I'm sure as they were doing that, they thought, this will this will trap people. this is ah I've invented a sophisticated trap.
Speaker: Well, all those details are fake. So that's just like designing a really complicated maze. Like when you say electrodes and all this stuff, it's like, yeah, that's imaginary. You have to be really creative to be able to imagine that shit.
Speaker: Try to imagine your way out of that one is what they would say. But are the people who are really gifted at like inventing glorious, splendid alien things, should they try to share?
Speaker: How do you share your awesome idea for a television without inventing it and putting it in every one? Just don't put any atoms in it. This person thinks the the right thing to do after inventing the television is to never share it with anyone and to just to have it be your private television.
Speaker: His theory, it does remind me of this book I read several years ago that I found in a used bookstore that was really strange. It was written by a physicist who basically was like theorizing the same thing, except that he was like, we're all going to go to this place where everything is real at the same time. And that's what heaven is. And when we die, everything becomes one point.
Speaker: Um, so maybe, I don't know, maybe this, this person onto something. I feel like he's definitely onto something. I mean, yeah, you can definitely see the physical world as just one sort of thought or imaginary possibility, but I feel like he's wrong about the imagination because the imagination, it shouldn't be,
Speaker: Imagination, you don't use the imagination by nullifying what you've already imagined. Right, like, all I've imagined atoms and the ah physical world, but what if actually no?
Speaker: i mean, shouldn't you just kind of yes and that and kind of keep keep going, keep telling the story? That's where I think he's gone wrong. That's the way to get out of it is to imagine like smaller atoms that actually, ah there's that's the portal towards telepathy or whatever. That's what people are doing, right? No one's told a good enough story about telepathy that all of us have accepted.
Speaker: And then consequently made us all telepaths. But the more you think about telepathy and the more you believe in it, the less physics makes sense. Right. The more you believe in the imagination, the less I can believe in all this math that i don't even like looking at.
Speaker: It's interesting that unicorns never come up in this, even though they seem like the de facto example of something imaginary. And I think he even kind of acknowledges that by saying, like, you know, I don't want to call it imagination because imagination sounds like something fake and childish. But it's like, well, what is your stance on the fake childish elements of imagination? Like um infinite candy glitch or ah um a blue minion?
Speaker: like what's Can we talk about these things with imagination? Or does it have to be like these extremely consequent... Like building the Gieson pyramids with your mind. why is Why is that always... like The problem is... That's the grown-up form of... do you know what I mean? like That's the grown-up form of imagination. is like You can kill someone with ah with your mind instead of like a butterfly with four wings. like like No, that's child shit. I'm going use them a big boy imagination.
Speaker: i Imagine what adults fantasize about. Yeah, exactly. Imagine what adults must be imagining. I think their problem is they they want these imaginative imaginary entities or phenomena to exist, but...
Speaker: ah they want them to be to still be imaginary and real these things already do exist as imaginary entities they exist just fine if a unicorn appeared in front of you it would cease to be that it would cease to be an imaginary unicorn which is what you want it would be ah an animal really dull oh there's an animal Yeah, unicorns are quite dull. Like whenever you actually when it comes down to it, it's like not it's not a very special creature. What if this animal had a horn? Yeah.
Speaker: And rainbows tend to be near them, but I don't think they can control rainbows. What do you guys think? It's a random coincidence. Yeah. Rainbows are imaginary, right? They're not real.
Speaker: No, I've never seen that. Well, even if you see it, it's imaginary. Yeah. It's not like you're going insane in that moment. Rainbows are a collective unconscious hallucination.
Speaker: hey That crackpot you were talking about, Summer, that book where he says heaven when everything is simultaneously real. Yeah. That seems to more accurately describe hell to me. I feel like if I were kind of in an infinite plane where sort of my grandfather at all ages was existing around from the baby form of my grandfather to his corpse, like sort of was stretched out in a ribbon. And also Bugs Bunny was there in the Tasmanian Devil. And it's also all you. Like it's not distinguishable from you. You're all the same thing. That would be... This sounds like hell.
Speaker: Yeah, especially because, like, I mean, the obvious question that immediately comes to mind we have to deal with is like, okay, well, then if everything is there, then I guess that means Hitler is there and you are one for Hitler as well. Ooh.
Speaker: But all the six million Jews that he killed are back. yes And they're also new. We're back! Sorry, H. Missed us?
Speaker: Did you miss us? I think it's it is so irresponsible to talk about the imaginary plane of existence and then to invoke a heaven or hell because you can do that at literally any stage in imagination. You can say... um Imagine like a bubble that's 100 feet tall.
Speaker: Well, that's what heaven is. Or imagine a unicorn flying on a rainbow. That's what heaven is. like You can interrupt any thought that's imaginary with, and that's what heaven is.
Speaker: And you're supposed to relax, relax, you're supposed to relax don't Don't go to heaven. Don't go to heaven. Don't go to hell. Just keep imagining. Keep the keep the party going. They're not anything. they're They're simply labels. They're simply labels for things you've imagined, good or bad. That was a nice thing to imagine. heaven. That's what heaven is. Exactly. don't imagine that. That's hell. That sounds like hell. That's why heaven and hell, those are earthbound concepts that can only exist on earth. Once you're off of the, once you're out of reality, there's no heaven or hell anymore. that Those don't suit you. Let's imagine something nice. All right. Fuck it. That's heaven. That's like when you're riffing with your favorite, when it's like when you're riffing with your work wife. That sounds like heaven.
Speaker: Yeah. It's like when you're riffing when you're work, wife, and someone comes in and goes, um shouldn't you guys be getting back to work? That person... That's the devil. That's what say. What you guys are doing is hell.
Speaker: It's just like, no, we were imagining a whole world where we were able to be together. We're in heaven.
Speaker: Well, I found a question that's so similar to the one we just read. It's almost like a sequel. It's also quite long. Maybe Matthew can read, can speed through this one. Imagination can be thought of as a psychosis microdose.
Speaker: Psychosis is an imagination overdose. I believe that there's a bleeding of dopamine being held in the synaptic cleft. And then a firing again where it's reabsorbed and multiple disparate areas of the brain are activated in sequence because of an extra fast processing speed.
Speaker: A little more dopamine is heightened sensitivity. More than that, and that's imagination. a lot of dopamine creates psychosis where there's where those joined disparate networks keep firing until they're exhausted.
Speaker: Creative people have a super sensitivity to and increased bioavailability of dopamine with a large number of dopamine receptors and a vastly interconnected brain.
Speaker: But after a massive creative project, those same pathways become overstimulated, leading to positive symptoms and negative symptoms. The overstimulated prefrontal cortex shuts down to compensate, negative symptoms.
Speaker: While the temporal and occipital lobes stay overactive because they can no longer be turned down by the PFC, positive symptoms.
Speaker: Without the prefrontal cortex operating fully, the reality checking, or CAP, is no longer there, and so everything happening is interpreted as truth by the amygdala and other structures in the midbrain.
Speaker: Imagination can be thought of as a psychosis microdose, because they are low-level hallucinations present only in the mind's eye. Psychosis is an imagination overdose because those same imaginative and meaning-making networks that can create great art become overactive and create imagination that spills out into the parts of the brain that actually perceive and test reality, which creates hallucinations and delusions.
Speaker: I'm not high, I swear. Maybe just skip to the very final ah little section. I posit that fun, nonviolent video games, platformers, etc.
Speaker: would be extremely useful as a leading therapy for reengaging both PFC engagement and emotional regulation post-psychosis. I imagine that fun games can heal the insane...
Speaker: but It's so interesting to start this post by saying, I believe the dopamine held in the synaptic cleft. That's like something that could be verified. it's It seems like weird to couch your belief in something that's like such an explicit like mechanism of brain function.
Speaker: if If I were them to cover my ass, I would say, I believe somehow this happens. I wouldn't describe the mechanism. Why are so many theorists like why isn't Zizek using the word um or even Jordan Peterson? They should just be saying somehow all the time instead of speaking with authority.
Speaker: They already have a voice. I guess that's why Peterson is so effective is because the timbre of his voice is like one long somehow. but I'm not sure how, but in a way,
Speaker: He never says in a way. No, he just does that thing where he glances up towards the ceiling to catch his words. And everyone knows that means that he's not sure, but he's going to say that he is. But I think you're right, Derek. I think ah all these flamboyant theories need a lot more somehows. I think it would endear us instead of make us think that these people are, ah you know, that they are high.
Speaker: They're not using their imagination correctly. Exactly. It's funny that these guys talk about dosing, like in their own brains, they're like endogenously produced dopamine or whatever is like a dose they're giving themselves.
Speaker: A thought is a dose. Right. He could just as easily say, imagination is small psychosis and psychosis is big imagination. But he doesn't want to sound like a caveman. He wants to sound like a sophisticate. So he invokes this idea of dosing. Yeah, what he's actually saying is so banal. It's like, yeah, crazy people have real of wild imaginations.
Speaker: That's the problem. They have too much imagination. They have too much imagination. i feel like I've seen like parents scold their kids while playing and they're like, now just so you know, like that's what you're doing is playing. It's not real. They're afraid that the imaginations will get too big and the child will become crazy.
Speaker: that what it is? Have you guys seen this? I have seen this. I don't know. I think parents are like, um I think that parents truly don't know when playtime begins and ends because there's really no reason to castrate enjoyment in the in the playtime. They don't know. they think or They think children don't. They think that children have no sense of perspective about their own play. Children fully know they're playing.
Speaker: Right. But I think parents have like so consumed too much media where a child goes to... Or like even what like the folk myths about this the changelings, right? like I think that's a fear of playtime.
Speaker: on the like The child goes out in the woods and plays and then comes back and is somehow changed, I guess just because they got lost during playtime. But that's truly the only bad thing that can happen with playtime is that you... you you spend the night alone because you played too hard everything else though is fine you just go to bed a little bit you go to bed a little bit later or you kind of tuck yourself out the only the only thing that should end play time is sleep time I guess is what I'm trying to say not snack time yeah snack time you can play during snack time it's easy yeah that's true mess with the food a little bit yeah throw the food around Throw up.
Speaker: Make yourself throw up on food. That's not playing. That's reality. You're throwing up. you shouldn't That's not playtime.
Speaker: I've definitely seen parents like scold their kids for the game they're coming up with being too weird. like Like the parents get uncomfortable and then are like, hey, that's too strange. You know, do you mean weird? Like it's verging into sexual territory and you're like, it's not enterprise mean like it's like it's just all nonsensical.
Speaker: Yeah, like they're just like not, they just don't like that the direction it's going, I guess. i don't know. The parents like, you should play a game that I came up with as an adult. I used to try to invent games on the playground and ah kids would get hurt because there were, it was, the games weren't very, they weren't very robust. It was basically just like, all right, this guy is evil and insane. and he's going to freak out and we're going to try to stop Yeah.
Speaker: and Right. We're going to try to balance on the fence. And then, of course, someone will fall off and and get hurt really bad. But the game is designed so that you get hurt. Yeah. That's the That's the point.
Speaker: Adults need to wake up and fucking smell the bacon. That's why we play games. We're auditioning for Jackass. Do you guys like when they um do guys like when they like fuck with um but strangers?
Speaker: It's a trick question because they never fuck with strangers. they They only harass the people that are a part of the comedy troupe. oh So they're not like these new news style TikTok guys that they go up to somebody on the boardwalk or whatever and say, i have a bomb under my my coat. Yeah.
Speaker: I have a bomb and I'm going to finger you. They don't say that. That's the new school of jackass. I'm okay with harassing strangers. What I don't like are the TikTok or real videos where they're being really nice to strangers.
Speaker: I saw one where some guy is giving bouquets of flowers to really old ladies and like making their day. I'm sure.
Speaker: it's It's far more repulsive than just harassing or attacking people. But what do you think is do you think it's better to generate artificial images of old ladies with the with a soy face gratitude? ah Or do you think it's better to actually create those images in reality by ah presenting simple bouquet of flowers?
Speaker: like Would you rather a person, a hermit, typed all day generating fake images of old ladies with ah slight tears coming out of their eyes because no one has given them attention in in decades, or to have real women be accosted with flowers by strangers?
Speaker: I think that the fake one is more ethical, probably. How's that? Um, it's, uh, well, we just don't know what kind of effect we could be having on these old ladies, but making their day, we could be changing the course year the rest of our life will be really different. I guess I'm imagining sort of like a There must be a version of this that's sort of like the sex positive woman owned porn company. Like if an old woman was making other old women's days, that would be okay. If she was getting all the requisite likes and retweets, et cetera, I would support that.
Speaker: But if it's all going to some like kind of smooth face, 20 year old guy, i hate that fucker. don't want him benefiting. No, I don't want getting any benefits. Yeah. No, he should be assaulted. think he should I'm going to make a channel where I assault him. but um I found another.
Speaker: this is kind of a different tack from the conspiracy subreddit. Caffeine dissolves fear frequencies that hold me back from manifesting. I've noticed that caffeine causes me to get euphoric feelings, which dissolves doubts and fears in my mind for a brief time period, after which I start working like crazy on my business goals.
Speaker: This effect fades away after multiple days of using caffeine, and the body seems to require more and more large doses of caffeine to sustain the effect until eventually you're just burnt out and crash.
Speaker: I've tried microdosing caffeine, but the snowball effect of larger and larger doses is still required to maintain the effect. Otherwise, microdosing stops working. Does anyone else have the same experience with caffeine helping to calm your fears and uncertainties that stop you from manifesting and achieving your goals on prison planet?
Speaker: I think they keep our energy at low vibration to keep us stuck and dissatisfied with our lives. But with green tea or coffee, we can escape it for a brief time period until we get stuck back in those lower frequencies. The euphoria hints at caffeine breaking through the energy field that keeps us stuck in low vibration thoughts. What do you guys think is up with caffeine?
Speaker: Obviously, long-term effects are bad, and that's why everyone at work is trained to be hyped up on coffee all the time. But I'm talking about that initial euphoria you get ah when you feel that everything is fine and amazing and your future looks amazing when you drink that first when you drink that first caffeine sip.
Speaker: ah i love I love this. I love analyzing having that first caffeine sip and analyzing it like it's the craziest psychedelic ever that the rent helps you break out a prison planet. and fucking And other than that, it's a pretty sober kind of description of what of how caffeine works. like The first sip is really strong and eventually you get tolerance and a lot of people drink this stuff.
Speaker: Yeah, so ah describing caffeine almost entirely accurately with a few little pieces of, ah you know, personal testimony for Manifesting with the first sip.
Speaker: And then saying, how do you guys feel about it, though? I start working like crazy on my business goals. I love that. This guy has not had did not have coffee until he was like 25 and it blew his mind. i think that that is a big part of it. i think and I wish I could have saved my first experience with coffee like it was like Molly or something.
Speaker: like Imagine going to Vegas and seeing Circus Away. i On On coffee.
Speaker: on coffee fuck I want to get like there and dance with them you see people who like don't drink coffee regularly but occasionally partake and they do treat it and kind of act like they're on like a hard drug yeah they like cheat on their husbands tonight I'll have some coffee with you yeah and they cheat they do tend to cheat My friend Paul never has coffee, but one time we went through a drive through and they accidentally made two drinks.
Speaker: um So i was like, do you want this? And he wasn't going to get anything. He was like, sure. And then you drink it all in like two minutes. um And for like the next three hours, he was just talking nonstop. And I don't think he knew why.
Speaker: Right. That is something about coffee that I don't think ah anyone really realizes is how how they appear. It's almost like they get... That's like... I don't know. You almost like are having private conversations with everyone at a louder volume. Slightly louder volume.
Speaker: When you're ah high on coffee. High on caffeine. Yeah, it's stimulant. this This guy should just get into like microdosing psychedelics suffer for his work day instead. And then he's going to really work on his business goals like crazy with manifestation.
Speaker: I think you're right, Summer. I think the more stuff this guy gets into, even as like, a ah not even as a habit or a hobby, but just as like a once in a once in a while treat.
Speaker: I think that what this guy's really interested in is writing four paragraphs about the effects of things that people do. Yeah. really getting into Xanax. It really helps me not remember anything while I'm working on my business goals. Right. Helps me break through those like low vibrational memories that have been holding me back. yeah I think that i like right now there's sort of like this push to use psychedelics and therapy and everything. And I think as that becomes normalized or even to invent a term, normie-ized, all those things, all those all those breakthroughs, that will just become part of the office workday. you know Eventually, there will just be like a...
Speaker: um DMT dispenser in the break room and you'll have a mug before you go back to your desk and do your little drone-like worker bee activities. I think that already might be the a strongest association now with like psychedelics.
Speaker: i think you passed I just watched Brian Johnson's Shroom's Trip live stream, which was... Oh, man. Really nice. The one with like Grimes and co?
Speaker: Yes, and Mark Benioff was there talking about blood. He was like talking about young people's blood, which was nice. Yeah. Was it actually nice? Because i heard that I heard that Brian Johnson had a pretty unremarkable set of behaviors and performance. No, it was very unremarkable. Yeah, it was like very, very run-of-the-mill, run-of-the-mill stuff. He just laid down under a blanket.
Speaker: I didn't actually, I didn't watch the whole thing. It was quite boring. I heard that when he was done tripping, quote-unquote, or at least when he was, when he decided that he was done tripping, he just went on his phone and started texting. um Yeah.
Speaker: That sucks. They should have like, He should have ripped his eyes out. We're going to hurt you. We're going to get you. yeah I thought they would have him like run an obstacle course or something. like I thought the whole point was to be like, now we're going to see what he does.
Speaker: i think he just jizzed into a Dixie cup off camera. Off camera. And then they measured it. What is the goal here? Is he is he getting ready to release some like product with psilocybin in it or something? Probably, yeah. That's the idea, right? I really love yet psilocybin to maximize productivity. it's really a it's a night It's a cool cultural phenomenon that's going on.
Speaker: Anything that we can use to maximize productivity. Yeah, sort of tripping out and meeting the machine elves. They will just tell you, like, get back to work. Yeah. It's time to rise and grind, buddy. Well, i mean, coffee, there probably was a moment where coffee... There I know for a fact that there... Yeah. yeah like But not just coffee, but just caffeine grows in every continent except for Antarctica.
Speaker: And ah every indigenous a group of peoples that would use it would use it as a sacrament. And then I think once... like Don't they say that coffee contributed to the Renaissance slash enlightenment that like European access to caffeine was like the driving force behind the... yeah no I read that like all water like contains small amounts of alcohol just to sterilize it or whatever. And then yeah I guess like sanitation practices changed kind of at the same time that coffee was introduced to Europe.
Speaker: ah and but people just So they were suddenly not drunk. ah yeah but also Our long civilizational hangover is over. right we're We're finally able to get some decent rest.
Speaker: Have breakfast. a But I think coffee was seen as like a destabilizing drug for society early on when it was introduced to Europe, at least. We talk about like young men going off to like coffee houses to do who knows what and Yeah, used to be a left-wing drug. Yeah.
Speaker: was left. That's right. Yeah. I was like, I went to Morocco earlier this year, and whenever, anytime we went out to like, you know, out dancing in the city, everyone was just drinking Red Bull after Red Bull because like, they don't really drink there. So I feel like I wonder what the effect is, what the effect is there. It's going on a crazy night out drinking coffee all night. Just talking animatedly, dancing. Yeah. What? That sounds really fun and nice.
Speaker: Yeah, it actually was. Yeah, Red Bull Dance Night in Morocco. it does kind sound Yeah, and then you go out into the streets and like people are all out in the streets drinking coffee at like 3 in the morning. That rules. That's kind of how it how it is in like Malaysia. It's kind of how it is in my apartment.
Speaker: You sort of go in. Interesting culture here. Out on the street, gathered around tables, talking in an animated fashion as they sip little dark cups of coffee. Your apartment's a really awesome spot. Yeah, at least on the omni-theory level where imagining this. It's really nice over here.
Speaker: The reason that it evolved in all these different continents is because it's a pesticide. The plant just trying to kill is trying to kill bugs that would that would eat it.
Speaker: And then we're getting high on the same chemicals that are designed to kill bugs. So this proves that humanity is not a pest. Right, because we because we're immune to pesticides. If we deserved to be wiped off the earth, the coffee would have gotten us. yeah yeah We should put more pesticides in our food just to prove how much better the we are than bugs. Can't get me. I'm not a pest.
Speaker: Won't get me. I think it's good to directly consume pesticides. I was just talking about this last night, but like i grew up on like a soy farm, not organic, covered in pesticides, and would just go suck on the pods.
Speaker: And that's probably had a really good effect on me to this day. Yeah, you are good. it so Yeah, no, i'm and I'm definitely like strong. Like, I feel like the pesticides probably made me stronger because there's less pests and in my body. The weak are riddled with pests. They are. Bad bacterias. All bacterias are bad.
Speaker: You ever sit too close to like a ah weak person and you can just hear the like rattling of all the pests on them and in them. They can barely stand up because they're so heavy with like kind of a green film of germs. Yeah. like green And that makes it hard to stand. yeah it's It's like wearing a wet t-shirt.
Speaker: This is sort of a this is another good one from the conspiracy subreddit. It's a little bit different. Pierce, maybe you want to read this. Damn. All right. um and This post is from the Mojo Jojo.
Speaker: Why don't Jewish actresses go nude in films? Oh, and this is on our conspiracy. As the title says, as to comparison how is it? How is it that there are almost always sex scenes and nudes of non-Jewish acri actresses in movies, but not for Jewish women?
Speaker: Edit. It might sound pervy, but the question is out of curiosity. How are non-Jewish women often seen doing naked and scenes in movies, but Jewish women barely do any? I love how Edit is just like, I'm not a pervert.
Speaker: I'm just... But I will just repeat my question with that caveat. love that the top comment is just a list of Jewish actresses who've done nude scenes.
Speaker: Plenty have done nude scenes. Sarah Silverman. that They didn't have to look that up they They had that locked and loaded ready to go. i think that this question, this is like this conspiracy has definitely the biggest implications for days like for life. It could change. but like if Unraveling this could change.
Speaker: You pull on this thread, everything comes undone. Exactly. Why don't they let us see them like that? Yeah, this is like, this is going to undo the fabric of reality. Another comment is, uh, not this again.
Speaker: Again, is this a common thing? I believe in Marfa aliens and I believe in not being able to see Jewish women naked. They are often clothed in movies, more often than not.
Speaker: I guess they could bless everyone. If we've compiled like this all of the scenes in every movie that appears a Jewish actress, of and statistically, and it would be almost all of the time they're clothed, which is disturbing. It's disturbing. I think, yeah, there's a big conspiracy with the clothing of Jewish people in general, not just in films, but in reality.
Speaker: I often see them clothed. The amount of Jewish people I've seen naked in a sexual situation is surprisingly low compared to how many Jewish strangers I've seen with fully clothed. Same. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, it's worth looking into. What are they getting out of keeping us trapped in this fallen realm where we can't access heaven's light?
Speaker: It doesn't make sense to me. But I'm starting to think that there's a whole conspiracy with clothing in general because I feel like... I mean, i've seen my dad naked. What's that all yeah what is the deal with that?
Speaker: Yeah, we've all seen Pierce's dad naked. Yeah, I wish it would stop. It's every day. What does he want me to think? He's Christian. Look at me. I'm Christian. What was the clue?
Speaker: ah look son. I'm a Christian man. Definitely not Jewish. Speaking of what ah Matthew just said, how about how about this one? This is also on conspiracy. ah The ultimate truth.
Speaker: The ultimate truth everyone has been seeking is Christ. There's a reason he's mocked and other religious figures are not in Hollywood. You will feel much happier if you give your life to him.
Speaker: It doesn't matter what atheists say about God not existing and cases of Christians committing bad acts. Those are not true Christians. Also, please understand the OT before any atheists start posting verses.
Speaker: I just pray this reaches the right people. Damn, this is goaded. This is awesome to go into our conspiracy and say you'd be actually be happier if you were... think a lot of people on there would be. I yeah hope that hope that someone found Christ from that.
Speaker: The big conspiracy is that the the most popular religion that we were kind of like all raised around is right. Yeah. Yeah. i Is he even saying he's right? It's just I like when when people kind of say that just that they're happier with their beliefs. He says you'll feel much happier if you give your life to him. Not that Jesus is the savior, but It's kind of just a good decision for that's true and well-being.
Speaker: He says the ultimate truth is everyone has been seeking Christ, but he doesn't say whether or not that's because it's true. It's just because it is. It's sort of like when a friend of yours hasn't seen The Sopranos and you go, no, you would like it. Trust me. I like i know everyone's recommended you this show, but trust you you would like Is it real, though?
Speaker: No, just have a good time. feel story that would make you happy. It's kind of like just you should your your parents were right about you. That's kind of also what this reads like.
Speaker: You know, I know you think your parents are lame and you kind of live your whole life in opposition to them and their values just to stick it to them. But they're actually right about you and how you're like not how you're not really doing enough and that you're not making them money. you should You should make more. You'll be happier.
Speaker: That's a real conspiracy. isn that Our parents were right all along. Whatever they were saying. the ultimate truth. it's and No one should find the ultimate truth. It's always going to be disappointing. The ultimate truth is just going to be something like family is important.
Speaker: The ultimate truth always sounds like a sort of... It's sounds like lie. It's quite dull. No ultimate truth is good to hear. No, it's the last thing you want to hear when you're in If you're a conspiracy minded person, the last thing you want to figure out is the the ultimate one. So we're done here.
Speaker: there's nothing else. The ultimate truth is like NASA stepped in and said, actually, but everything is a star. It's a Neil deGrasse Tyson. church all All the Bilderberg and like sort of Moloch worshiping cults that rule the world. That was all just ah window dressing subplots. Not important to the ultimate truth, which is, you know, holding the hand of your lover is so nice.
Speaker: yeah And ah Thanksgiving is turkey has turkey... just These are like ultimate truths. That ultimately true, I mean. Ultimately, yeah. right Thanksgiving has turkey.
Speaker: It's verifiable. Yeah, only things that are verifiable in this nature are the ultimate truth. There's got to be evidence. There's evidence. There's evidence that Jesus was a guy, right?
Speaker: Yeah. People have done DNA tests. They found his bones. They found his kids. In that in that book I read, yeah. The Da Vinci Code.
Speaker: I found a crucifix around some person's neck on the bus. It must be unreal. It's a reference. Yeah. Yeah. We wouldn't have all these references if it didn't refer to something.
Speaker: hey You guys probably know about the, have however heard of the ah Red Scare ah podcast? Yes. They have a popular subreddit. think this is kind of an interesting, I guess this isn't a question either.
Speaker: I agree with this. People are too casual about parrots. What do you mean they can imitate human speech perfectly? There's even some evidence that they are not just imitating us, but also capable of communication. Like, is that not the craziest thing ever? Yes.
Speaker: And the missing thing from this question, but which is kind of included in every post on the subreddit is, and what do Dasha Natasha think of this?
Speaker: I think people are are not super familiar with ah parrots as like a conversation partner. I think perrot people know that parrots can say like sort of canned phrases. But its this is this post is like saying, you know do you guys remember those ah woody dolls where you pulled a string and it said, there's a snake in my boot?
Speaker: How are we not talking about It's so crazy that... a a thing was able to do to was able to say something ah i think this is what people get mixed up about with ai too is just like it's not it doesn't matter that something can use language what we like is uh eye contact and being able to get spit on see the spittle on their lips and and maybe even take them to bed like you can do all that with a parrot though like yeah that's a good point Easy. Yeah, way easier. Yeah, Pierce's point was if parrots learned how to spit, they could then like vote and be integrated into society properly.
Speaker: I think people just don't like what parrots say. Polly want a cracker? They do often say rude things. Yeah, they're rude. I think I would like to have one around, though.
Speaker: just It would be interesting. When I was just a boy and I had seen the Aladdin film, I sort of thought that all parrots sounded like Gilbert Godfrey. But when I got older, I found out they do sound like him, but they're not as clever. They are. They could be as clever.
Speaker: They could be, but by and large. Someone said clever things to them. Yeah, exactly. Instead, people just say rude things to them, like you were saying. Or they say rude things because people are rude to their parrots because they end up not liking their parrots, I think.
Speaker: the The parrot just sort of like absorbs all the harm and abuse and yeah, i guess that's kind of what children do too, right? And then they just kind of put it out in the world. that's why parents That's why children and parrots are always saying things like shut up.
Speaker: Because the own their masters are always saying that. Shut the fuck up, parrot, kid, whatever whatever you are. You damn parrot. But I want i want crackers. No.
Speaker: No. we can't afford crackers. Too poor, too poor. Yeah. Why do people... What's wrong with being casual about parrots? What's the alternative? LAUGHTER This whole theme of this episode is why aren't people tearing their hair out in abject ah insanity at at things that are, you know, objectively quite interesting? Well, I think that if you focus on any little thing, you will freak out. You know, I can have a cup of coffee every day.
Speaker: i could freak out about it every day I could freak out every time I see a parrot, which I see every day, you know, but I won't. You got to choose something to freak out about, I guess. is like Truly. I mean, no script writer is able to write a 90-page script where every line every action line is, and then he freaks out. Even though that movie would be incredible. Even though that movie would accurately describe our lives. and That movie would accurately describe any movie that you like. Isn't that what acting is
Speaker: Just variations of freaking out Like okay in this beat You freak out with envy and this one you freak out with sadness Now you freak out You're happy if you're freaking out ah how happy you are happy You're happy you get into Juilliard that's mostly what it is Just like you're not freaking out enough Do it again
Speaker: I'll freak out, move on, the blackest heart of the horizon I'll freak move on, there's nothing much behind it And I'll start with your broken hands There's nothing to out of doubt
Speaker: See you next time.
