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Episode 88: When This Podcast Hits 88 Episodes We're Going To See Some Serious Sh*t
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Introduction and NXT Premiere Discussion
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined, a Pro Wrestling Hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender. And with me, as always, a man who just watched the premiere of NXT and is getting ready to tell me about it, Derek Halpin. I was in such an NXT mood today, I intentionally changed the battery mode on my iPhone to low power mode just so that the little icon would be yellow.
00:00:29
Speaker
Oh boy. Oh boy indeed. You're bleeding yellow right now and that is. That's pretty gross. That's disgusting and you need to get that checked out. But. I do. I am very sad because I could not watch this.
00:00:45
Speaker
But you were texting me throughout and I feel like I missed the greatest wrestling show of my life, even if it wasn't. I like to think I like before you tell me any of your thoughts on it based solely off the things you sent me in all caps. This sounds like it was a very exciting show.
00:01:05
Speaker
There's a lot to be said about what I've seen the last two hours. Show just wrapped up. It was a first hour on USA Network and then the second hour on the WWE Network, which I didn't know going into it because they had kept advertising it as a two hour event. The NXT was going to USA Network and it was gonna be two hours. Well, the second hour is apparently on the network, but I didn't find that out until like 15 minutes in.
00:01:35
Speaker
And I was a little bit pissy about it, but ended up not really making a difference because they put on a good show tonight, Garrett. I'm very happy with what I saw. I am so incredibly pumped to hear you tell me about some of the things that happened tonight because it really sounds like they really just put a lot of my favorite people out there and let them do some cool shit.
00:01:58
Speaker
I didn't know the names of every single person that I saw tonight. I will do the best. Again, there were like two or three that I didn't know. However, everyone else I was familiar with, and I watched beyond NXT, I watched a lot of WWE this week.
00:02:14
Speaker
So I've got a lot of thoughts on that. And we're just a couple of weeks away from SmackDown moving over to Fox. And kind of excited about that as well, Garrett.
GCW Bloodsport and White Claw Banter
00:02:26
Speaker
Well, hey, I also watch GCW's Bloodsport, or Josh Garnett's Bloodsport too. Because, you know, there's a different kind of wrestling out there this weekend and it needed to be watched. And I did it, god damn it. And I will talk about that eventually in this show.
00:02:43
Speaker
We will talk about all of the wrestling that you need to hear about right now. But in the meantime, you should probably hit our goddamn music.
00:03:26
Speaker
It's become a weekly tradition that when we record, you crack open a claw and we get this shit going. Well, I've got big news about the claw that I'm holding this week. Is it a mango? Derek, I am holding in my hands not only a mango white claw, but a mango white claw in a tall boy.
00:03:49
Speaker
They have white claw tall boys now? Derek, if you go to a convenience store, you can now purchase white claw in the tall boy. And goddamn yes, I do have this in a paper bag right now.
00:04:03
Speaker
yeah that's oh I just that's a lot that's a lot Garrett that's a lot to take in on both of our ends I just took my first sip and it really punched me in the mouth that's a lot of mango that's a that's a spicy mango I'm just kidding it's not spicy it's delicious I do like this
00:04:22
Speaker
I would just like to say that we're also gonna be apparently reviewing every fucking White Claw flavor that they come up with. I guess White Claw Summer is just about over, right? Yeah, we're gonna have to find an Autumn drink.
00:04:36
Speaker
Is that pumpkin spice white claw thing? Is that is that true? That seems like a meme that's going to become a reality. Like it starts off as a joke and then they're like, well, fuck it if they want it, I guess. This isn't the only this is a very good flavor. This would probably rank still below black cherry for me. But either is above lime. It's above lime, I think. But I can't decide if it's above raspberry.
00:05:07
Speaker
Well, I haven't had the mango yet. I haven't had a single claw since you departed my fair city. That sucks. Tell me how you really feel. Have you had a claw every day since you've left? No, absolutely not. Not even every other day. Honestly, I still pretty much just drink the claws for you guys on this show. And they're like, we didn't ask you to do this.
00:05:36
Speaker
We just came here for you to talk about wrestling. This is an added, not really bonus, but hey, it is crack one open. It's more fun for all of us. That is very true that we have yet to hear a response back from our listeners via the review or like Twitter saying, yeah, keep, keep the white claw references coming because that's part of your identity now.
00:05:58
Speaker
Not one, not one fucking time have we heard somebody say, yeah, this is an important part of the show. Now, when we were pushing Otis and Jizz, that got embraced by a lot of people. Including Otis and Jizz.
WWE Nickname Origins and Listener Engagement
00:06:14
Speaker
If you haven't watched WWE television in the last eight months, and you don't know about Otis and Tucker, heavy machinery, we call them Otis and Jizz.
00:06:26
Speaker
And it's the reverse. Tucker is technically Otis, and Otis is Jizz. I said that right, right? You did. Yeah, there's new listeners that definitely don't know that. And I think last week we said there's a lot of Jizzes on NXT UK, and they were probably very confused with what that means. It's a body type, Garrett, is what you're saying. Like a large fellow with a lot of body hair.
00:06:54
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a is that it's a shape. Is it a body type or is it a way of life? It's both. But we got Otis and Jizz over so much that when you ever whenever you see fucking Otis screaming, I'm coming. That's a reference to us directly because we call them Jizz instead of Otis. So never fucking forget it.
00:07:22
Speaker
It's a thing. I mean, I'm sure Heavy Machinery is going to be around for years to come and they're going to have a lot of success. And that's another shirt, years to come. I guess this is an opportunity because I feel like we haven't done it as much lately. We should remind people, if you are a fan of the show,
00:07:42
Speaker
If you like listening to us babble on about pro wrestling, white claws, semen, that kind of thing, you should pop on over to iTunes and you should give us five stars. You should leave a sweet review. And if you do that, you can recommend something for us to check out as long as it can be even slightly related to professional wrestling. It could be a new Slim Jim flavor. It could be some funny clip you saw on YouTube. It doesn't matter. Don't make me try Slim Jim flavors.
00:08:10
Speaker
Garrett you need to do something to you know fucking spice up your manhood considering all these claws you've been putting back yeah I'm saying it okay okay let me go no go ahead and demasculate me demasculate that's not a word I've had claws in my body man you had like two streaks of claw
00:08:30
Speaker
You've had two sips. I'm a fool then. What do you want me to say? I said a word that wasn't a word. I tried to run with it and you didn't let it slide. Um, yeah. Well, I'm gonna emasculate you by letting you know that you should probably have some, some dried packaged meat in a stick form. A new flavor.
00:08:49
Speaker
And if you try a new Slim Jim flavor and you want us to check it out, leave us that sweet review on iTunes. We'll check it out. We'll talk about it on the podcast just for you as a way of saying thank you for your review and those stars. Garrett. Oh, I'm sorry. It's emasculate. Yeah, I know now. Try to make the white claw sound tough. I'm not saying that your only purpose in life is to be a bad motherfucker. I'm just saying, you know,
00:09:16
Speaker
Hey, I don't... I'm not the baddest motherfucker there is, but let me tell you, I am the toughest Hufflepuff. And that's, uh, that's the bottom line.
00:09:27
Speaker
You are S A W F T soft. God damn it. Okay. Do you want to hear something I tried today that wasn't White
Food Critiques and Wrestling Styles
00:09:34
Speaker
Claw? Another Enzo song? No, it wasn't. I use the word song very loosely. Song. Artwork. No one has ever. When was the last time somebody referred to anything like just pictures like you hear the new Enzo song?
00:09:53
Speaker
Who's ever said that? Check out that new Enzo hit? But no, I got on the social media this morning and I saw a friend post a picture from last night and they were eating pizza that was shaped like a Cheez-It. Look, I saw you post this on Facebook, my friend. Looks like something I would definitely not try.
00:10:19
Speaker
I have not been fooled by many of these gimmick foods that fast foods put out. The last one I think before this was when KFC sold that chicken sandwich that was just two pieces of chicken and they pretended like it was bread. The Double Down? Yeah. Yeah, that was just referenced in a commercial I saw tonight on a KFC commercial. They made a throwback reference to the Double Down. What do you mean you got fooled? That thing was great. No, that was gross.
00:10:48
Speaker
It was two pieces of chicken. Like where's the where's the oh man they got me.
00:10:56
Speaker
Well they just tri- like I mean they didn't get me but they did like sell me on the idea of just eating a lot of chicken in one setting. That's their job. Well I saw a friend- Whether it comes in a bucket or a bowl or two pieces of chicken is bread. Well this morning I saw a friend post that they had this Cheez-It stuffed pizza at Pizza Hut and when I found that out within 30 minutes I had four of them delivered to my team. It worked.
00:11:23
Speaker
Everyone was on board with this. Everybody was very excited. Everyone was very enthusiastic. I like a Cheez-It. I'm kind of curious to see what they've done. When this girl pulled them out of the heating bag or whatever, you know, that keeps them warm, I almost fucking threw up at the smell of hot Cheez-Its coming out of a box. Like, if anything that they nailed the taste on on this, well, taste is the wrong word. If they could nail anything that gives you the sense of a Cheez-It, they nailed you with that smell.
00:11:55
Speaker
I'm just going to let you know if I had been there, this is the thing I would not have allowed to happen. And I like pizza, Garrett, but this this this is not pizza. I will agree with you because I've had it and can confirm. Why this one? Well, I like I don't know. There was something intriguing. And honestly, the way my friend shot it, I'm pretty sure she put a filter on it because it made it look a lot better than what was sent to me. Mm hmm.
00:12:19
Speaker
What this is is something that if you were really stoned and it were two in the morning and something you were able to pop in the microwave, you would think it's awesome. I still don't think that's quite the compliment because basically what you're saying is if you're in an inebriated state and you lower your standards, then maybe this will fly. What I believe my review on social media of it was you have to have had at least a minimum of six white claws to enjoy this or any amount of any drug.
00:12:56
Speaker
Taste As you clear your palate just from talking about it damn um the taste I would say is
00:13:07
Speaker
Lasting? I ate that around 11 30 this morning and at four o'clock this afternoon, I was still tasting it. I'm telling you. That's rancid. Don't do it, Derek. And I just assume that they showed a trailer. I say a trailer like it's a movie preview. I mean, when the girl brought them to me, I was like, I'm actually very fucking excited to eat this. And she said, we've had to keep it a secret for weeks.
00:13:35
Speaker
What? Is this what was stolen from Area 51 during that raid? Yeah, it was little, little square. I mean, guess cheese it's, but really it's, I don't know what this is. It's gross. Don't try it. Hey, I didn't know it was a thing before I saw you talking about it on social media. B, for those of you listening, Garrett is notorious.
00:13:57
Speaker
for his lactose intolerance. And while he will not necessarily avoid pizza, it's not like a thing with me where like I'll go out of my way to try pizza of all shapes and sizes. Garrett's a little bit more nervous when ingesting cheese and dairy products into his system. So it's very odd.
00:14:16
Speaker
A that you took to me, you were getting a pizza, but you were like, fuck it. Let's get the cheese at pizza. That makes a point of throwing the word cheese back into something. It's a little redundant. Like what the fuck? This, this is odd even for you. Yeah, I agree. And as I was eating it, I said, I'm already afraid for my drive home from work.
00:14:40
Speaker
I did not shit my pants. I do not recommend this food. You know what? If you are inebriated and it's a pay-per-view, I call that a special occasion. If it's still around, then maybe give it a try. I will say, since you were successful in not shitting your pants on your way home, I'll give you a little pat on the back for doing that. Why don't you lead the show off
00:15:08
Speaker
and tell us about GCW because I haven't heard anything from this show and I know, like you've said so many times, GCW is your new favorite promotion. Low and behold.
00:15:20
Speaker
Yeah, I still stand by that as my new favorite promotion. But this was that show. If you remember over Mania weekend, I didn't attend it, but I did get the pay-per-view of Josh Barnett's Bloodsport 1. And this is that wrestling that is presented to you as if it is like an MMA fight. There's no ring. They're basically on the mat, but there's no ropes or anything.
00:15:48
Speaker
Right. I just want to get it, man. What do you mean? Like the way as I was watching this, and I mean no disrespect to anybody in the ring.
00:16:04
Speaker
Are you scared that one of these guys is going to listen to our podcast and then come beat your ass? Yes, because this is a group of people that think that wrestling needs to be tougher. Okay, so let's back up. The odds of that happening are highly unlikely. Say what you feel, man. You don't need to soften the blow for these guys. Don't pull your punches. Two, if they did listen.
00:16:29
Speaker
The odds of them finding you, finding us, very slim. Three, if they did and they beat the holy fuck out of you, it would make for a great podcast episode. If I ever have to eat through a tube because of something I've said on this show, I'm gonna go ahead. I could cover the show for a few episodes. Okay, okay, okay. I was just gonna let you know whatever I said wasn't worth it.
00:17:00
Speaker
I don't that that's. Don't I get a say in that? I guess. OK, fuck. OK, I'll tell you exactly what I told Jeffy wrestling while I was I was texting him or watching this before the show. This feels like I it it feels like this is the equivalent of eating my wrestling vegetables. I know it's good for me, but God damn it, I just want some cake.
00:17:26
Speaker
Like the fucking Bloodsport show? Like I can tell that these men are very very good at making it look like this is a real fight.
00:17:35
Speaker
But it's a group of people who have decided that wrestling's got too much pageantry. We want to act more serious. What the fuck? Like, who are these men? Is this supposed to appeal to those people who when you tell them that you like pro wrestling, they're like, why don't you just watch UFC? That's fucking real. And so like it's it's pro wrestling, but it's it's.
00:17:58
Speaker
i don't know presenting itself as a shoot in a way that appeals to people like you know who i'm talking about if they're tricking that guy then but like i don't get it i guess for me like it looks a lot like ufc but i could also just watch ufc but i can also tell you that these men are doing a very good job at what they're doing once again different flavors of pro wrestling ice cream this one is not my flavor but
00:18:24
Speaker
they still manage, even in the weird, you know, even in the type of show this is, which I asked Jeffy, I said, what, who watches this? And he said, and he said in sincerity, he said, people who don't look at pro wrestling as performance art. And I was like, to me, this is the weirdest performance art I've ever watched in my life. Like tough men pretending not to perform. What, what is this?
00:18:50
Speaker
Tough men who aren't tough enough to actually fight, but want to pretend fight in a way that looks dangerous. Well, no, but like Josh Barnett was an MMA fighter. He's the main guy in this. What he was before is irrelevant. What is he doing now? He's fake tough fighting.
00:19:11
Speaker
I guess there is a place for it because there's really no wrong wrestling. I mean, it's just funny to me that it's the company that does the Invisible Man matches, that does the Death Matches, that they have such a wide spectrum of what they're putting on that goes all the way from the most serious wrestling I have ever seen in my entire life, all the way to the silliest shit you've ever seen.
00:19:36
Speaker
Well, GCW has got a lot of feathers in their cap in this regard, and we have repeatedly mentioned in the last month, as you've been putting GCW over, it feels like they've come a long way from where we saw them a little over a year ago. Is that fair to say? Definitely. They have definitely risen to be...
00:19:56
Speaker
if not the top indie in the country, one of the top indies. Is GCW like the local bar that every night has a different theme? Like some night they have friends trivia, other nights they have South Park trivia. And GCW, when they put on a show, it depends on what show you're showing up for, like what kind of entertainment value you want to get out of it.
00:20:18
Speaker
Well, it's like this weekend in Chicago, they've got the Nick Gage Invitational going on and it is mostly death matches. But in the middle of it, you see that Tracy Smothers versus Marco Stunt is happening. Yeah, I'm thinking about going there. There's a freelance show Friday night, Logan Square Auditorium. And then Saturday is the Nick Gage Invitational. But that's out in Summit. I don't know if I'll be able to make it out there.
00:20:45
Speaker
point is I got some wrestling coming up. Tell me more about blood sport, man. We got started. What like, like, what the fuck did you see? Okay. So what sticks out here?
00:20:54
Speaker
I am not gonna lie, I was having a hard time getting through some of this. It's good, it is a lot of mat wrestling and it's so serious. It kind of takes away from some of the stuff I personally enjoy with pro wrestling. But the one match that I find- Fair question, we're almost 100 episodes in. What do you like about pro wrestling? Oh man, that's a hard question.
00:21:18
Speaker
We should have entered this in episode one. I know, right? So for me, like pro wrestling is almost my comic books. You know, it's where I get that version of good versus evil storytelling. It is like the last real theater in the round. It's a fun performance art where you get to go and just immerse yourself in this world. And while you're in that arena, everything you're watching is is really happening.
00:21:49
Speaker
Everyone's playing along. I like to play along like I like the you know just a collective audience agreeing on things. So I think you and I probably share a similar I don't know interest or desire for entertainment out of this.
00:22:12
Speaker
What is it about you all of a sudden at this point in your life in your early 30s that's made you crave or be curious about this hardcore edgy shit that you didn't previously care about?
Nick Gage and Killer Cross Controversy
00:22:25
Speaker
It is super weird. That's never been my favorite kind of wrestling. But I think the fact that these characters are starting to grow on me.
00:22:35
Speaker
But also, they're giving me lucha matches and comedy matches. And I've put this company over, over and over again. But I don't know. I just Nick Gage is the man. I'm sucked into the goddamn Nick Gage world. He's my Batman now. But but I what is it about? Like, why is why can you copy and paste Nick Gage into so many scenarios? Where his character doesn't seem like it would fit? Like, why does that work?
00:23:07
Speaker
That's a great question, and he fought on this show. They actually- But I'm just saying, Nick Gage, his presentation is, I'm gonna fucking kill you. That's his character every time. He's hyped up. He goes to the ring every time he's gonna die.
00:23:26
Speaker
Why does that work against an Orange Cassidy, an Effie, and then against a Marcus Crane? How does that fucking fit? No, go ahead. No, I was just going to say, to me, that's the hardest part to explain to somebody who's not a fan. Maybe not the hardest part, but definitely one of the hard parts is trying to figure out
00:23:50
Speaker
Like how you make this cog work with this other cog and the two gears fit together to make a nice little machine. Like what the fuck is it about Nick Gage that works? I think he's so genuinely terrifying and I think when you see him going up against like a Marco Stunt or an Orange Cassidy or Effie, you're like, oh man.
00:24:12
Speaker
This is scary, but I feel like if you even had him go up against Chris Jericho, he would get in the ring, and I feel like if he got in Chris Jericho's face, even Jericho would show a moment like, this guy's a little bit of a loose cannon, I don't know.
00:24:30
Speaker
What the hell's this guy wearing? Army print cargo shorts? And the entire ass is ripped out of them? He showed up in the... Jesus Christ. He sees him wearing the promotions t-shirt to the ring and thinks, what is he, just a fucking scary Tommy Dreamer?
00:24:52
Speaker
Like, you tell me that Roman Reigns is in there like, I'm doing an open challenge, whoever wants to come down the ring, and Nick Gage walks down the ring, he's not gonna look at that guy and be like, I mean, I'm pretty sure I can beat him, but I don't know what this man's capable of. Like, he might try to kill me to get over. Yeah, he's a man that looks like he's willing to kill you to do it, and then at the end of the match, he's gonna tell the crowd how much he loves him.
00:25:21
Speaker
He has a lot of passion and I think that comes through, but getting back to blood sport in this story. Yeah. Yeah. So Nick Gage had a match against Killer Cross, you know, from Impact. Killer Cross is just a fucking monster of a man. This match ended up being three and a half minutes.
00:25:40
Speaker
It was over so quick. And it ended in a weird way where the ref stopped it, but Nick Gage hadn't passed out yet. Really, but maybe he kind of did. But he basically passed out as his gang sign was going down. So he wouldn't tap. He wouldn't tap. He was pissed at the ref for calling it off. And then Killer Cross proceeded to do the weirdest thing anyone has ever done in a GCW ring, Derek.
00:26:06
Speaker
What did he do? Did you hear about this? No. Killer cross after the match cuts a genuine promo and said, I've got so much passion for this business. And I know this man says he's retired, but I'm calling him out because I think he has the same passion I do. And then he goes, Dave Batista.
00:26:29
Speaker
and the whole room erupts. But it's like, what the fuck are you doing calling out movie star Dave Batista to come to GCW's blood sport?
00:26:41
Speaker
How the fuck did this not come onto my radar? Isn't it like, it's so weird. And he cut like this genuine promo like, I really want to fight Dave Batista. And I told Jeffy like, that's the equivalent of us getting on here and me being like, listen up, Ira Glass. I know you're hearing every single word I'm saying from your seat over there at NPR, but we're coming for you motherfucker. And then he's just like, but yeah, he did not hear me say that.
00:27:11
Speaker
Two things of note, we did see Killer Cross just a couple weeks ago at AAW, correct? Yeah, we did. I forgot he did the running at the end of one of the matches. Yeah. He beat up on the besties in the world with Scarlet Bordeaux. I don't know if he was beating them up for her or whatever. Two, the only Dave Batista stuff I've seen in the last few days is apparently he's a playable character in the new Gears of War game.
00:27:37
Speaker
Yeah, I'm kind of into that. I've never played a Gears of War, but to me it's like Dave Batista in space. Let's play it. Could you have predicted you would feel this way about Batista back when he was wrestling Daniel Bryan at WrestleMania 30?
00:27:54
Speaker
and everybody was shouting Blue Tista and he had a little blue nose ring and everybody's just booing him. Yeah, nobody liked him a few years back and now everyone's all about Dave now that he's gone. Couple layers of body paint go a long way on the man. So nobody was expecting Killer Cross to call out Hollywood Dave Batista at GCW's blood sport.
00:28:16
Speaker
Yeah, no, I'm sure nobody was more surprised than Dave himself. Did Dave find out? What was Dave's reaction? He's like, I am literally making movies now. I am not gonna go fight you at a bingo hall in Atlantic City. Maybe he will though. Nobody expected Jericho to go to Japan. Holy shit, maybe that's a mania weekend thing is Dave Batista versus Killer Cross is the main event of Bloodsport 4.
00:28:47
Speaker
I guess it kind of delves in, because you remember Dave Batista did get, I don't know why we're referring to him by both names. We both know he's just Batista. I typically say Big Dave if I'm referring to him in, to him in text. Like you fucking know him. Do his friends call him Big Dave? I don't know. Some of his friends are probably just as big as he is. I always assumed if I was friends with Stanley Kubrick, I would call him Koobs.
00:29:14
Speaker
You've just been waiting for a platform to let people know that. What the fuck? I've been saying that in my head since college. Now it's finally time to let that out into the open. The thing is, I can't let the name Killer Crocs go. Every time I hear it, I think of Killer Croc from Batman. I don't even know if you know who that is. I do know who Killer Croc is. I've seen Suicide Squad. Proudly you proclaim that.
00:29:46
Speaker
Proudly. And I believe earlier in this conversation. Does anybody remember a character from that movie besides Harley Quinn except you? Deadshot. Mmm. That Native American fellow who exploded. Is that going to be the sequel? Yeah, James Gunn's writing and directing it and the cast is awesome. Will Smith is not back. Jared Leto is not back. But John Cena and Idris Elba are in this one.
00:30:15
Speaker
Holy shit. I gave this opportunity so you could talk about Bloodsport. Does the name Anthony Corelli mean anything to you? Not a goddamn thing. That's Santino Morella. Well, that's the guy I know. Okay, yeah. He was part of Bloodsport. He actually fought Simon Grimm.
00:30:41
Speaker
He's still fucking trying? He was jacked, Derek, and he looked awesome. He didn't do the hand thing. There was no comedy. He went out there and proved to me that he can really fight and make it look real and make him look mad with the rest of them. I haven't watched a second of one of these shows. You haven't shown me anything. It's hard to imagine in my head.
00:31:08
Speaker
So there's a ring, but there's no ropes. Correct. Are there posts? There are posts, but they don't use them. They don't use the posts as weapons at all? No, it's almost as if the posts are there just to show you that it is a wrestling ring. The ropes are just missing. Couldn't they just have like a mat?
00:31:29
Speaker
You would think. But I guess they need like a stage to elevate the show. Listen, I am not. I did not love this. This show is getting very good reviews. A lot of people do like this and there is a market for it. I like to try different wrestling. I tried really hard to get on this one. Just didn't do it for me. But if you love this, keep watching them because it seems like they're going to keep doing them.
00:31:58
Speaker
That's a great way to sell. It's your, GCW is your new favorite promotion. That was a great way of selling people.
00:32:05
Speaker
Well one that this is the blood sport series like this is not like a lot of people probably wouldn't enjoy the Nick Gage Invitational and all the blood I At least think that one has a little little flair those guys, you know They come out with a little stage show like look at how sharp this shit is. Yeah And I'm like, holy shit. It is really sharp. Is he gonna get stabbed? Oh shit. He did
00:32:29
Speaker
Here's my thing, I think what it is, is that you got back into pro wrestling as an adult through the Yes movement and all the stuff around Daniel Bryan. And I think from there, you discovered when you were living in LA, you discovered the local indie promotions in PWG. And so you add a little bit more. And then you discover New Japan, a little bit more hard-hitting style.
00:32:57
Speaker
I think that gradually over the last five, six years, like a drug addict, you're just constantly trying to find the next hard stuff for you. I'm trying to find just the hardest hidden shit I can find. You get numb to the old stuff and then you need the new shit.
00:33:22
Speaker
you need the new high. And right now, because when you were describing to me, I don't know why you were trying to convince me about why two cups stuffed with such an amazing show. But one of the things you were like, isn't it, don't you get like a fucking adrenaline rush, like sitting like ringside for that shit? Like, don't you feel a sense of danger? I can't remember what your exact words were. That's basically what you were reinforcing to me. And in my mind, I'm thinking,
00:33:49
Speaker
Yo, fuck yeah, because your fight-or-flight senses kick in when you've got fucking glass shards landing at your feet, puddles of blood on the concrete in front of you, and little boys being thrown into your fucking lap. No shit you get in an adrenaline rush. Like, what, my fucking corpse? You have no choice. Now,
00:34:16
Speaker
I enhanced the show by making sure that we were part of damn near every fucking segment. I say segment like it was a TV show. I mean, I guess it was on pay-per-view, but no segments at GCW, just matches.
00:34:32
Speaker
Is that fair to say? I think that's fair to say. Can we move on? I need to hear about this NXT show, man. Well, we're not talking about the NXT show next. Oh God, what are we talking about? You like really like to tease me. You know when there's something I really want to talk about and you make me wait.
00:34:48
Speaker
Well, here's the thing. The NXT show was so fucking good. Like the two hours of entertainment they gave me tonight was solid, but I would feel like a dick if I didn't mention the fact I did watch Clash of Champions this past Sunday.
WWE Clash of Champions Review
00:35:01
Speaker
A pay-per-view happened. Yeah, a lot of people, maybe a lot of people meeting me didn't know about it, really. Yeah. You haven't been watching. I did watch several matches off of this.
00:35:20
Speaker
I thought it was Miz's night to win. I thought this was finally, I was like, good. The belt's finally on a guy the company doesn't give a shit about. It's Miz's time to shine. When Miz is on a losing streak, do you just lose interest? Is that really what it is? When Miz doesn't have a belt, Garrett powders.
00:35:44
Speaker
Here's the thing, Clash of Champions this past Sunday watched the whole show. It wasn't a priority for me at all. I just happened to be home and I happen to have a new bedtime that's a little bit later. So I decided this was not an inconvenience. And so- I don't know, mommy said I could stay up late. So I decided to go for it. I'm used to being in bed between nine and 10. Sometimes I can stay up till 11.
00:36:09
Speaker
And WWE pay-per-views don't end as late when it's not WrestleMania, so not a problem. But there wasn't a whole lot on this show that I was supremely excited about. And overall, before I go through some of the things I did like, show was just okay. This is definitely one you could have missed and not have missed much.
00:36:30
Speaker
Which is not a compliment for the product overall I guess but there are a lot of good things going on so it's it's really weird to say the show was blah. But there are entertaining things going on right now I'm really liking the stuff that they're doing with Becky and Sasha I thought that was really good.
00:36:50
Speaker
I do kind of like how that's carried over into the Charlotte Bailey if you I like that like the like the four horse women of NXT They're back at each other's throat like there's like a nice little connection the story right now is pretty cool I thought that the Sasha and Becky match was fucking great
00:37:13
Speaker
Really yeah, I enjoyed the shit out of that and this was kind of the it wasn't this kind of the pay-per-view match Becky Lynch needed
00:37:21
Speaker
I think so, but I also think it's, it's a, again, reconnecting all of these women back together, back to their roots and how, you know, this is what people wanted like, I think two or three years ago was to see all of them at this level and feuds together. And we're getting it now, I guess, you know, better late than never. But, um, I, the thing I liked about this match is,
00:37:48
Speaker
There was a lot of reason and a lot of people thought that Sasha was just gonna straight up win. And I'm fine with her not winning because I knew that if it ended the way that it did ultimately, which was basically a no contest, it was gonna set up for Hell in a Cell.
00:38:05
Speaker
and that's what we got and I and I loved the match I love that the match didn't really have an ending that they fought through the arena I thought that's what I thought was such a bold fucking decision just speaking as a wrestling fan is sending Becky and Sasha through the fucking fans oh and they were out there what seemed like half the match
00:38:27
Speaker
right like the back into that the back into that segment or the fight or whatever was them going up the fucking stairs up through the fans onto the concourse mustard got involved at one point uh yeah i thought it was fun i didn't think it was contrived i thought it's it's setting up for them to have a pretty bitter rivalry heading into hell in a cell go ahead and i thought this was a good version of a fuck finish
00:38:55
Speaker
I see. I agree. I completely fucking agree. I feel like there's a lot of people like it's nowadays. It's like, if there's a fuck finish, there's a portion of the internet that just feels like that they were robbed and has forgotten that this has been a part of wrestling since the beginning. Is that not every night are you guaranteed to get a clear cut winner? It sucks if you do that a lot, but this was, I think this was a good usage of it.
00:39:20
Speaker
It was Sasha Banks doing her Eddie Guerrero heel moves, and Becky Lynch basically being like, you're not fighting Bayley right now. I'll do it right back. I do not give a fuck. I'm champion. I can get disqualified and keep this. Fuck you. I will hit you 40 times with this chair. It does not hurt my feelings. Yeah. So I'm really into this rivalry. I mean, I think the Charlotte Bayley stuff's good too. I'm not as crazy about that one, but again,
00:39:49
Speaker
I think it's good shit. I was actually surprised that they had Dolph Ziggler and Robert Roode win the fucking tag titles off Strowman and Rollins, because I thought that was part of a whole fucking dynamic of their match, like for the title.
00:40:07
Speaker
is that they were gonna be still tag champs, but feuding as main event, or the guys in the main event. Yeah, I thought that was the whole idea of putting the titles on them in the first place was so that they still had those while fighting each other. And to abandon that at the beginning of the show was just like, huh. All right. Yeah, that was one that when I turned the show on and saw it was first, I kind of skipped over that one. I'm not gonna lie to you.
00:40:33
Speaker
I think it was an okay match, whatever. Can you tell me this? I know it's skipping around a little bit. No, go for it. But you know, I think it's just important we talk about the biggest storyline in pro wrestling today. Roman Reigns versus Eric Rowan. Okay. I hope you and I are on the same page because I'm putting myself out there.
00:40:58
Speaker
This match was way more entertaining than it had any right to be. That's because Roman Reigns is the best wrestler alive right now. And this is gonna be one of those things like White Claw where I joke about it until it's just a real part of my life. But I started realizing today that in just about two months time, you and I will be, we have pretty decent seats to a Survivor Series.
00:41:26
Speaker
We're pretty close to the ramp. We're going to be real close when Roman Reigns walks out there and you might actually see me lose my mind for Roman Reigns. Are you going to push like five kids out of the way to get your hand out there? I hope he'll fist bump you or whatever. I haven't been excited to see Roman Reigns since I first started rewatching wrestling, you know, a few years ago. And goddamn, I have a theory though. I have a theory where this is all headed.
00:41:54
Speaker
I feel like some of this Roman Reigns stuff from you is tongue in cheek. Like you said, I feel like you're faking it because you're feeling something real, which is what I'm feeling, which is that Roman Reigns is easier to stomach these days.
00:42:09
Speaker
I kind of joked because it was a silly storyline, but I gradually see myself kind of just liking Roman Reigns. If he doesn't have anything to do with titles, but he's just a midcard guy that has to fight all these weird battles and figure out who's trying to kill him, I am really, really into that. Especially, I think they're going to swerve us all next WrestleMania.
00:42:32
Speaker
This whole somebody trying to murder him storyline is going to flip back around. It's going to turn out Roman Reigns was the killer the whole time. And he's going to have a GCW style match against himself in the main event of WrestleMania. And it's going to be awesome. I thought you were going to say that it turns out it was actually Nick Gage trying to kill him. And that would make a fuck ton of sense.
00:42:56
Speaker
No, they're not gonna let Nick gauge in the main event of WrestleMania, but if Roman Reigns is fighting himself in the main event, that's just gonna sell every pay-per-view there is. Well, in fighting games, yes, you can have Scorpion versus Scorpion or Guile versus Guile, but yeah, I don't know if you can do that, Garrett. You got a cloning machine there, buddy? Hey. Luke Harper got a new shirt.
00:43:26
Speaker
Hey, did you like the way? Okay, first of all, I legitimately popped for the return of Luke Harper. I 110% did not see that coming. I've never seen a man boot Roman Reigns mid spear. And I will say when I saw that both of them kind of had matching pants and what kind of pants they were, my first thought was, I think WWE is trying to make Rowan and Harper the new Briscoes. Right?
00:43:55
Speaker
It's like they decided, well, we can't get the Briscoes, so fuck it, we're WWE, so we'll just make them the Briscoes. There's no trademark on pants. So I wasn't the only one who thought that. So yeah, no, no, no, I definitely thought like, okay, so you put on this nice, crisp, new black metal band t-shirt, and then these weird pants. Once again, where are wrestlers finding these pants?
00:44:23
Speaker
I'm telling you man, the clearance racket Hot Topic has some wild shit. I don't go in there enough. They think it's all about pop vinyls in there, but really it's about the clearance pants. Garrett, they sell plenty of pro wrestling shirts in Hot Topic these days. You should know this. Do they sell AEW stuff now?
00:44:43
Speaker
Last I knew that you could still get all the elite stuff in there. I tried for a while to find the Hangman horse shirt, never found it. I was at a Hot Topic just a few weeks ago. It's definitely in there. Get your ass back in there. Well, he didn't win the title, so gotta move on to the next guy.
00:45:04
Speaker
I did think, see, I was so iffy on the Orton Kofi Kingston match. This was another, it felt, I don't know if New Japan's the right word, because it wasn't that hard hitting. But this definitely was one that as it started, I was not into it. And by the end of it, I was totally into it. So what happened? I didn't, I'd actually skipped this one.
00:45:28
Speaker
I mean, just fucking Kofi straight up beat Orton. Couple of false finishes. Kofi was able to get his foot on the ropes after an RKO. And Trouble in Paradise, he's starting to do it. He's got a new thing where he grabs their wrist and twists them into the Trouble in Paradise, I think. Looks a little bit better to me, a little bit more palatable. I see this was the longest match on the card, too. Yeah, it felt like it, too.
00:45:56
Speaker
like there was a moment I was like so pissed I think it was like seven or eight minutes and I was like fuck they're working so slow and I think they had me by the end again there was nothing on the show that I thought was like
00:46:11
Speaker
Like we're gonna be talking about in like six months or anything. But there was a lot of good storyline continuation at this show. I think it was good enough. I think... I don't know. The Rollins-Strowman match was fine. I actually enjoyed that one. That's one I had fun as I was watching it. Yeah, I think it was an interesting decision to have...
00:46:37
Speaker
Braun Strowman survived three stomps. And then do what, a one count after the first one? Yeah, it was a one count after the first stomp, two count after the second stomp. And then he did a third stomp and he kicked out at two and three quarters, whatever you want to say. And I think he hit a pedigree in another stomp. And he was just, and I'm sitting here thinking like, well, three stomps beat Lesnar.
00:47:05
Speaker
But we have established that apparently Braun Strowman was not better than Brock Lesnar. Like that was the point they made in this past year. So I don't know. I mean I guess I definitely was not expecting Strowman to win. But the most important thing off of the show
00:47:25
Speaker
I think was the was the end of it, which was Rollins celebrating on the stage and the Fiend appearing from behind and making Seth a little bit bloody and then hitting that sister Abigail. Are you into the Fiend, Garrett? I feel like I haven't heard you talk nearly enough about it.
00:47:42
Speaker
do I don't I like him I like him enough but also I just haven't been I haven't been watching not not here we go not here we go it's fine it's fine it's fine Derek no I fiends fine I just haven't been watching WWE that much there's so much other stuff
00:48:00
Speaker
There's what what other stuff? I don't know. I've been there's AEW GCW and white claws. There's white claws. There's I don't know. I saw the new Rob Zombie movie the other day.
NXT Debut Impact and Technical Issues
00:48:16
Speaker
All right moment you've been waiting for let's talk about this NXT yes fucking yes Just tell me about it man as I stayed at the top of the show They had been advertising pretty hard that it was a two-hour debut on the USA Network Which in my mind it was like well, I guess that makes sense. It's the new third brand So it's only gonna be one hour
00:48:39
Speaker
Is that correct? I mean, I didn't get to see a second of it. And when you text me around eight o'clock that it was switching over to the network, I even tried to watch it on the network and I couldn't get it to load on any web browser or the app on my phone. But you just used the network the other day to watch parts of Clash of Champions. Correct. Well, I'll put it to you this way. Once again,
00:49:06
Speaker
We've talked about it a half a dozen times on this podcast. There's something about the NXT level of production or just, or just the way things look. There's times where like, I guess it's not, I don't get to say main roster anymore with raw and smack down and them doing it in an arena with all that lighting and the, uh, the video board, Titan Tron, whatever the fuck you want to call it. There's you just come back to like a pretty simple.
00:49:36
Speaker
Darkly dimly lit set and and everything with NXT. It's just the fucking presentation is so different and so quaint I guess That it's just better. It's just the the focus is on everything in the ring You can barely see the crowd and I it totally It was not lost on me
00:49:59
Speaker
while I was watching this on the USA Network that for a lot of people this was their first time seeing NXT period and they were doing a damn good job of showing how it was different from the other two brands. Did they change the appearance of it at all or did they kind of keep it exactly the way it looked on the network?
00:50:18
Speaker
No, it's exactly the same. And again, like I said, I knew that. But I think you go from watching Raw and SmackDown where they've got the red lights lighting the crowd on Raw, the blue lights lighting the crowd on SmackDown. Anytime they cut back towards the ramp and the stage, you see how big all of that is. And the production value and the quality and
00:50:42
Speaker
It's like I'm giving this really massive compliment and saying like, wow, WWE has got a lot of expensive, quality, high definition shit. Isn't that marvelous? I think it takes away some of the focus from what people are there for. That's, that's my critique. And I think when watching this show.
00:51:04
Speaker
I was reminded of that. Like once again, why like NXT is so much fun to watch or just the way it looks. Opening match was a fatal four way between Maya Yem, Bianca Belair, Candice LeRae and Io Shirai. And they had a fucking banger of an opening match.
00:51:23
Speaker
did they really go for it did they have one of those really awesome matches they've been having lately I will say that the two hours it didn't get to like NXT takeover levels it was not that like it wasn't like they let everyone go and get like you know 15 minutes of this fucking belt about whatever but this this was a damn good match
00:51:49
Speaker
And fucking Candice LeRae, I think she's finally gonna get that push that you've been waiting on for so goddamn long. Ah, that makes me all at once. Actually, I think Queen of the Ring beat everyone to the punch by asking if I was watching NXT. And then maybe 30 seconds after she texted me that, I got the message from you. And then it just gradually trickled down to where I just kept getting texts, congratulating me on Candice LeRae's
00:52:17
Speaker
Number one contender win. Oh, I popped. So I like I said, as you were texting me, I was popping for things I wasn't even seen. Because you were just getting spoilers live. I was just getting basically everything you were saying was they're doing it good, Garrett. They're doing a good job. Well, I can tell you that the match was good. I'm excited that they might finally be utilizing Candace.
00:52:47
Speaker
We'll see. I guess they're going to have the match between her and Shayna Baszler here in a couple of weeks.
00:52:52
Speaker
So that'll be on live TV, and then, like you said, because I was texting with you about this, do you think that maybe there's a little chance we could see them fight in Chicago? I think there's totally a chance we could see them fight in Chicago, because my prediction is they're gonna let her get a match in, and there's gonna be some fuckery with Shayna's goons, obviously, right?
00:53:21
Speaker
I see because they've got to get taken out of the equation for Shane it'll lose as long as they're allowed to be at ringside or come down and cause some shit Shane is gonna always end up retaining that's kind of the story that they've been building for like the last year plus wherever the fuck long she's had that title
00:53:37
Speaker
I think Candice losing on television because of some fuckery and then maybe William Riegel getting involved and saying, Oh, you're going to have to defend that title again, Shayna, but fucking your, your, your ladies aren't going to be allowed or ringside to help you. I think we're going to see Kansas be the one to take the title off Shayna Baszler. I really do. And I think we're going to see that in person at takeover war games in Chicago. I think that's totally a possibility.
00:54:04
Speaker
Oh, that's a... Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, boy. Oh, jeez. There's... That's actually something I would very, very much like to see. Our boy Trevor Lee, who is now going by the name of Cameron Grimes. Oh, grimy.
00:54:24
Speaker
had a squash match. I couldn't fucking remember who against last about five seconds. He did his fucking double stomp into the chest. Pinned a guy Cameron Grimes wearing what I described to you as a Rob Zombie style top hat.
00:54:41
Speaker
Like you know what I'm talking about. Like I'm not like the the circus-y one that Two-Face is wearing in Batman Forever. No, nothing like that. Like a shorter one that's a little Wild West-ish. Like, you know, you get what I'm saying here. Okay, so he's looking more old-timey than Steampunk.
00:55:01
Speaker
Yes. OK, that makes more sense. But when you when you sent me that text, I was just like, I love the idea of this very southern man trying to pull off a steampunk gimmick, if that were the case. It's not a steampunk gimmick. And y'all think Hunter's going to let me wear my hat?
00:55:21
Speaker
I do think it's important to understand they really only did like three things on the hour that they were on NXT. And Cameron Grimes getting a squash match on USA Network is one of the things that they prioritized. And I want you to think about that for a second. That's pretty fucking crazy. Did the crowd give him a good pop when he hit that double stomp?
00:55:41
Speaker
They absolutely did good crowd pop for the squash. Like I said, they did the ladies match. They did this. And then we got the title match between Velveteen Dream and Roderick Strom for the North American Championship.
NXT Championship Developments
00:55:56
Speaker
And
00:55:58
Speaker
I think one of the things they did throughout the night is if somebody wasn't necessarily wrestling on the show, they did little like a, not pro, I guess profiles is a weird way of putting it. Cause it's not like it's a biography, but they would do like little clips and they would like Maro Ronaldo would put them over like, or show them or whatever. And they would, they were basically profiling people for people who were just tuning into NXT for the first time. And I thought that was cool. I thought that was the right way to go about doing things.
00:56:26
Speaker
Did they present the show in a way that it's not annoying to watch for people who have already been watching for a long time? Yeah, no, the format change really wasn't that different. And that was another thing I made a note of, which was it wasn't Raw and SmackDown because they didn't have segments.
00:56:50
Speaker
Like the segments that they had were, like I said, like those profile things where they were like five seconds, you know, showing, you know, somehow important. Like they did one on Adam Cole as an XT champion because he wasn't wrestling that night. I think they did one for Velveteen Dream where they basically showed him backstage or whatever. So Adam Cole didn't appear on the show at all tonight?
00:57:11
Speaker
Well, hold on there. Velveteen Dream, Roderick Strong, took me a little bit to get into this match, but ended up being a pretty damn good fucking match. And Strong could not put away Dream at the end, multiple backbreakers. And Dream's still kicking out. There's a ref bump spot.
00:57:33
Speaker
Undisputed Era comes out, they surround the ring, there's all sorts of tension. Roderick Strong hits his finisher. Dream kicks out. So you're thinking, oh shit, he burned his ref bump spot.
00:57:49
Speaker
So Dream hits the Dream Valley driver, goes up to the top rope, Cole jumps up on the ring apron and it distracts, and then Cole and Fish, wait, O'Reilly and Fish on the other side of the ring cause a distraction or whatever to the ref. Strong hits his finisher again, pins him, new North American champion, and that's how the show goes off the air, is Undisputed Era holding all of NXT's gold.
00:58:17
Speaker
That was how they they chose to do their first in their first hour on USA Network with NXT. And I thought it was great. That was great stuff. That sounds good. That honestly, that sounds like a really solid hour. I wonder, will they continue it as just a one hour thing or was it just one hour now because that's the way the time slots are worked out?
00:58:38
Speaker
I'm not exactly sure. I see now I'm super confused about how the format's going to be going forward because I thought NXT was just moving to two hours and I thought the two hours going to be on USA. So I don't know if it's just going to be one hour on USA one hour in the network. I don't, I don't know. I don't know. It doesn't really matter to me because I enjoyed the shit out of tonight was not expecting when I switched over to WWE network to see fucking Pete done.
00:59:05
Speaker
Yeah. There were some, it sounds like there were some surprises on the network as well. Yeah. I think that's what was so interesting is because what they chose to put on the one hour run USA was calculated. Like they gave you like 25, 20 minutes of, it was like almost a half an hour of, um,
00:59:29
Speaker
Roderick Strong and Velveteen Dream. They gave you a banger of a women's match and then they basically put a squash match for Cameron Grimes on there. And that's what they chose for their first hour. And it seemed like the second hour was to feature some of the other talent and then let you know that they're going to be using NXT UK personalities.
00:59:48
Speaker
on nxt a lot more now so they just immediately answered our questions correct correct but it seemed like it was like for i mean i'm like i was watching with my roommate chris and he said the same thing he said you know they're trying to use that first hour to draw in the new casual viewer
01:00:07
Speaker
to the network, and that's true. I think that was probably a smart decision on their part. Pete Dunne, and I fuckin', I can't blank it on the guy's name, the Brazilian Jitsu, the Jujitsu artist, and they put on a better match than I expected, because I thought it was gonna be a squash for Pete Dunne, and it ended up being pretty good. Arturo Ruiz. Arturo Ruiz. I couldn't say his fuckin' name while I was watching it, I kept trying.
01:00:34
Speaker
I just looked it up right now. So was it mostly kind of a mat wrestling type match? It was just a little bit more hard hitting than just that. Like it was pretty good shit. Pete Dunne obviously fucking pulling apart the guy's fucking fingers into submission, which makes me wonder why is that a skill Pete Dunne has that nobody else has in wrestling where you just grab fingers and start pulling until the guy says that hurts too much?
01:01:02
Speaker
That's a thing you learn in like fucking kindergarten to be shitty to other kids Okay, everyone else forgot about it. I just need to I need you to get to the the man that made me pop the hardest So there was supposed to be a match between I think Kushida and some some other fucking guy who had like early 90s hip-hop music fucking imperium swarms the ring on this guy and
01:01:25
Speaker
And then fucking the crowd starts asking, chanting his name, they want Walter. And let me tell you, dude, was not actually expecting that to happen, but fucking Walter showed up. Did his music hit and everything? Yes. Oh my God. They gave Walter the fucking Walter entrance. And as soon as I heard that, I wanted to scream at you.
01:01:51
Speaker
I wanted to be like get your fucking network working, whatever it takes, because you've been waiting for this. Oh, we've. Oh, man. We've been talking about wanting to see Walter on the main product and involved with NXT a little bit more. Well, it looks like we're going to get that. Was there any like did they kind of give you an indication of this is a permanent thing or is it just kind of showing that any of the NXT roster can really pop up anywhere?
01:02:20
Speaker
I think that's kind of what they were going for is that anyone can show up at any time because I was not expecting Imperium and Walter to be there. He got a big reaction. They gave him the entrance. Kushida ended up coming out and challenging Walter to a fucking match. Holy shit, like it's just did they have a match?
01:02:42
Speaker
No, he challenged him to a fucking fight. Oh my God. So late. One of the coming weeks we're going to get this. Yes. Um, we also got a pretty damn good match between Leo rush and Oney, Oney Lorcan with the winner getting a shot at the cruiser weight title. Was this Russia's first time back? Yeah, he's back. This is his, his, his return match.
01:03:06
Speaker
crowd was really into Leo Russian and like actually they were into both of them. They were both over as fuck and this ended up being a damn good match. I would actually recommend going back and watching this Russians up getting the wind. So he's going to face Drew Gulak for the cruiserweight title at some show on the kickoff.
01:03:27
Speaker
So this isn't the way of saying that 205 Live is gone and it's just all the same thing now? Well, I think Triple H had made a point in some conference call that they're going to try to incorporate 205 Live into the NXT brand a little bit more, which makes a fuck ton of sense. I guess at the same time, though, how many people on the NXT roster just automatically qualify for 205 Live anyway? That's true. It's kind of an odd situation.
01:03:57
Speaker
Yeah. And then they chose to close the show with Matt Riddle versus Killian Dane, which ended up really not even happening. They had a fight for maybe five minutes. A kendo stick got involved. There was some action on the outside. They brawl to the back and they brawl past a bunch of the other wrestlers and they run into fucking Imperium again and Walter. And then a huge backstage brawl with the entire roster breaks out. Um, he done gets involved and that's kind of how the show ends is just in mayhem.
01:04:25
Speaker
with the NXT roster fighting in the ring, outside the ring and backstage and everything. It was fucking nuts. It was fun. I'll put it to you that way. It may not have been a typical NXT style show or the way to end the show, but it was a lot of fucking fun. And big thing from the second hour was just fucking the Walter showing up.
01:04:52
Speaker
I knew that would blow your mind. That really does. That gives me hope that, you know, maybe in Chicago we get a Walter match. I would like to think we will. I need to hear those chops vibrate off the wood ceiling of the Rosemont Horizon. It's important to remember, Garrett, that we went to NXT TakeOver Chicago last year and we got Gargano versus Champa II. But remember that NXT TakeOver Chicago before that,
01:05:21
Speaker
Had Tyler Bate versus Pete Dunn.
01:05:25
Speaker
in what was one of the highest rated matches that year. So I think they're totally willing to bring in some of the UK talent for a takeover in Chicago. I don't think that's a problem. God, if we end up with a Candace title match, I will lose my fucking mind that if I see if I see Candace win that title, I'm going to I'll streak. I'll be still be running naked through the streets celebrating.
01:05:53
Speaker
Put it to you this way. We're less than two months away from all of that. We're about two months away from all that, I guess. Like what, the 22nd, 24th? Yeah. So we're about two months away from that. They like, that's the next major takeover. And this is the feud they're building right now is Candice LeRae, Shayna Baszler. So they're going to get there. They have to have a match in between and I, obviously they're going to do whatever they got to do to, to build that feud up. So.
01:06:21
Speaker
Uh, NXT was exciting tonight. Um, I know we've got AEW coming down the bend. We've also got Friday night Smackdown, which I'm excited about too. A lot of good stuff. I'm stepping back for a minute. I'm really, there really is a lot of exciting shit going on in wrestling right now. Oh yeah. Yeah. Um, I actually just got tickets for AEW's come to Nashville. You said it was a pain in the butt to get them.
01:06:47
Speaker
Oh, man. Yeah, that was hard. I at first I was just trying. I think I started with three tickets or maybe two and realized quickly that was not going to happen. And I think I had to sit there and try for about a half hour to get one ticket. But I did eventually get a second row ticket. Congratulations, Garrett. Thank you. I will. Their tickets are very reasonably priced. That was a not a badly priced second row ticket.
01:07:13
Speaker
my question is how long is like an episode of Wednesday night dynamite supposed to have they even calling it that no i don't think anyone has ever like officially said that's the name they trademarked it they trademarked it but they also trademarked Tuesday night we have to assume there's going to be some dynamite in there
01:07:31
Speaker
So are they just calling it all elite wrestling? So far every Wednesday. So far. Yeah. And oh my God, they've been running that AEW trailer before, uh, you know, like at the preview parts of the movies, like just the TV commercial parts, speaking of fucking TV commercials. Tell me about what, what aired during NXT. Oh, I'm blanking now. The AEW commercial.
01:07:59
Speaker
Oh, no. OK, so I have seen I watched Smackdown yesterday as well. They ran a AEW on TNT commercial on USA Network during Smackdown. Oh, they ran. They didn't run it during NXT as well.
01:08:17
Speaker
I don't think so. See, I was getting tagged. Maybe they did, but I didn't notice. OK, I think they did tonight because I had people texting me that they like had ran like in different markets. The AEW commercial during NXT.
01:08:35
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I don't think I, I don't think I saw it. Um, maybe it was there and I just fucking missed it, but no, they've definitely run, uh, AEW stuff during smackdown. And I don't know what the business deal is between USA network and TNT where they're, they're cross promoting that. Um, I don't know if they're under the same fucking company now. It's like, stop, stop it. It's like, stop it. You're hurting us now. Cause I think USA is universal and TNT is with Warner brothers.
01:09:05
Speaker
That's interesting. They're just buying the TV time.
01:09:09
Speaker
Yeah, I think, I don't think I digested until this moment, the fact that AEW shows just called AEW. Like it's now hitting me that like they're a couple of weeks away. That's, that's what's happening. So, um, Wednesday nights are going to be busy between NXT and AEW. And I do kind of like, you know, I've been saying the last few days, it's hitting me that, uh, the scheduling is going to be easier to handle.
01:09:36
Speaker
Like, you'll have a wrestling show on Monday with Raw, if you want to watch. Tuesday, you have the day off. Wednesday, busy day, you got AW and NXT. Thursday, you get a day off. Friday nights for SmackDown. And then I guess if they do pay-per-views, then busy fucking weekend. But other than that, getting the day off in between shows sounds pretty good. So what are we doing? Are we going to move to Thursdays?
01:10:06
Speaker
or move to record on Thursdays release on Friday, or we can either record like we did tonight and do it between, you know, nine and 10, or we can record Thursday and get it up by Thursday evening. What? So one of us will have to watch AEW and the other one watch NXT. Maybe. Oh man. I can always watch NXT after I get home from work on Thursday. Anyway, we'll figure that shit off. We'll figure that shit out off the air. I wanted everybody to be a part of that with us.
01:10:36
Speaker
Well, they can't respond. So it's it's sort of, you know, it's sort of a rhetorical performance for them, Garrett. Well, it is 10 21 p.m. and I need to edit this thing. So, hey, everybody, thanks for hanging out with us this week. Follow us on social media. We're at Predetermined Podcast on Instagram at Wrestle Hangout on Facebook and Twitter. I am at Gartet on social media. Derek is at Halloween helping. Give us that five star review on iTunes. We will talk about whatever you want. We'll just
01:11:04
Speaker
Just let us know. We'll talk about whatever. I guess I have to eat some Slim Jims or something. Uh, Derek, what else? Try a Mango White Claw. If you can find it. I haven't had one, but Garrett seems to be, like, okay with them, so. Uh, check out, uh, the new NXT stuff, because that's some quality wrestling.
01:11:27
Speaker
So, NXT thumbs up, mango white claw thumbs up, stuffed cheese at pizza from Pizza Hut, thumbs down, hit our goddamn music.