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Game Night with Lauren Asher! | S3Ep16
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NYT Best Selling Author Lauren Asher is back to talk all things Love Unwritten! She walks us through what readers can expect from book 2 in the Lakefront Billionaires Series while plying a series of bookish mini-games!
Spoilers from 32:00 - 45:53.
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Podcast Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:00:04
Speaker
Hey, guys. Hey, guys. Welcome to Bring Your Own and Catch All Bookishness of the Time podcast. I'm Brandi. I'm Kendra. I'm Kayla. And today's episode, we have another very special guest to join us on our season three finale. We're so excited. New York Times, USA Today, Wall Street Journal, Sunday Times, Globe and Mail. and Publishers Weekly best-selling author of contemporary romance novels, Miss Lauren Asher. Welcome, Laura. We're so like excited. Thank you for having me again. I'm excited. yeah You know that that um so Real Housewives of Salt Lake City where she's like, receipt receipts, receipts, proof, timelines. I felt like that reading off all of those all of this. It was a very dramatic interpretation. I need you to introduce me everywhere. I walk into a room and it's just, you know.
00:01:00
Speaker
And all that often people are like, oh my God, who is it? Not that they haven't already looked at the title of this episode, but. And I walk in and it's like a less than five foot tall. And I'm like, whoa. I'm like, whoa. I'll get carded.
Discussion on 'Love Unwritten'
00:01:15
Speaker
yeah We've had Lauren on the podcast before to talk about Love Redesigned, and we've talked about her books and many um many times on this podcast before as well. But in case you didn't know, she's got a brand new release. Love Unwritten just came out a couple days ago, so we're here to talk about that as well as play a couple of games.
00:01:37
Speaker
But first, oh my God, I stole Brandy's thunder. What are we reading? What are we drinking? I can go first. so um I'm having an ice caramel latte that I made at home. um Classic. And I am currently listening to City of Glass ah by Cassandra Clare. Kendra really sucked me back into the Shadowhunters universe with The Promise of Dark Artifices being one of the best series that she's read so far this year. So yeah, on book three, Kendra has promised me the incest pot line is almost over, so can't wait. But yeah, I'm still physically reading um the co-op, the new version of the co-op I tarred to it because I had some other o physical stuff that I snuck in there in between. you and I started it, paused it, now I'm back in it. So yeah. I'll go. I'm drinking. Oh my God, I'm like having a signature drink now too. Another Alani Nu. Yeah, I was going to say Alani Nu.
00:02:36
Speaker
Yeah, but this time it's a full size can inside of the mini one. um I am listening to Summer Romance by Annabelle. on hand Thank you. Yes. um I'm doing, is it out? No? Yeah, I came out on Tuesday. Okay, well, I'm listening to it on PRH audio, though. So thank you so much PRH. And it's it was from Kayla's recommendation. So she's been getting on us a lot this year. Yeah, yeah has a list so books that Brandy and Kendra haven't read because they don't love me. Yeah, I'm slowly taking them off. And I'm like, yeah
00:03:10
Speaker
oh okay um so that's on the list and i'm getting that done and then i am reading an arc of heavy hitter by katie katugno which last week i was like i haven't gotten my arc approved yet and my arc got approved literally like a few days after and it's so good so far i know it's um i think it might be my favorite out of her adult releases so far and i'm only 50 in yeah it's it's the whole like travis kelsey taylor swift thing but like not in like a bad way it's like fun it's yeah it's like a pop star and a baseball star and they like strike up a relationship and it's cool to see
Quote Game with Lauren Asher
00:03:41
Speaker
like what she incorporated from Taylor Swift's like it's not so much Taylor Swift's life it's more so just like Taylor Swift the persona like how is someone at that like just someone at that level yeah famous yeah um and it's really good so far and it's like it's kind of spicy so far so it's i'm having a good time and yeah
00:03:59
Speaker
Um, I just have a water today, but I'm going to continue my. Ollie pop poppy journey after this, my taste test journey. And I'm going to have a tropical punch, which so many people have been requesting me to try. So I'm going to try that later. Um, when I eat lunch. And I am currently reading One Star Romance by Laura Hankin. Can I read a book by her last year? Really enjoyed it. So now this is this is strictly a romance novel. I think the other one was before was mostly like literary fiction with a little bit. and
00:04:31
Speaker
um Yeah, it had a romance subplot. Yeah, but this one is a romance
Writing Insights and Inspiration
00:04:34
Speaker
novel. I'm really liking it so far. I'm about but halfway through really enjoying it. um I didn't read the description at all. So I really didn't know what to expect. But I'm really enjoying. And then I'm also reading a fantasy novel, a YA fantasy called The Temptation of Magic by Megan Scott. Not very far in so don't have many thoughts yet. But that's currently what I'm doing. Okay, well, I am I'm also drinking water. It's only 12. Well, I'd be drinking it all day, to be honest. um And then I actually just finished a book. I had been in a bit of a slump and I started a bully romance. Yeah. Cause I'm like, I'm trying to prep for like Rena Kent's next book coming out. Oh my God. who Less than a week. Yes. So I'm like, I need to fill the time with reading. So I finished a book called Brutal Ambition by Sam Mariana, I think is
00:05:27
Speaker
their name. um And I really enjoyed it. I had a good time. It wasn't too bully. right But I like the secret society element. So yeah, you're like I wanted them to be more mean to each other. expecting like you know Like I expected, you know, like really, you know, some, some interested, like maybe I mean, there was a little like dub con, maybe. Yeah. But I've read, I've read a few of her books. Um, really prepping for reading Ken's book then. Yeah. I'm really, I'm really excited. Like I feel like June is a great release month in July. So I'm just like waiting. I keep checking my Amazon, but obviously the dates don't change. Like maybe, maybe, i'm like maybe yeah um maybe a glitch will happen. and Yeah. But no, of course, like I'm an author. I know that. Um, but wishful thinking was cross. Yeah.
00:06:15
Speaker
Yeah. Oh my
Themes and Character Arcs in 'Love Unwritten'
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Speaker
gosh. I love that. I cannot wait for God of War. So you guys make I'm like tent like maybe I don't know if you just need some like really well done audio books. that you can just like turn your the feminist brain off your head off and just like ride the wave and they're very fun. And the suspense and I think there's multiple narrators too for that one right? but i'm The first two are duet and then or sorry the first two are dual narration and then the rest of the series from the third book on are duet narration they're very fun.
00:06:47
Speaker
the last um what was it uh Nico's book and brand that was my favorite yeah that's what i recommend that's like the fan favorite overall like i know that that's when i like heard about the series i feel like for the first time because everyone kept talking about that one it's really good yeah yeah All right, guys, let's jump into our questions. We just want to quickly state that most of these will be spoiler free, but we will warn you when spoilers do come up for Love Unwritten so you can skip ahead if you would like or skip those questions if you would like. But first, these ones are going to be spoiler free. So stick around. Listen.
00:07:23
Speaker
Okay, so yes, we were all here today to talk about Love Unwritten, which is book two in your Lakefront Billionaire series. So first book followed Julian and Dahlia truly took bookstagram and booktalk by Storm. Like it was kind of crazy, that release. um But now you have a highly anticipated second book, Love Unwritten. What is like your elevator pitch so people can get to know Ellie, Rafa and Nico in like the simplest way before jumping. in honey This elevator pitch, I'd be terrible. Well, it doesn't have to be an elevator pitch just Your own personal description. Okay. So I would say that it's a single dad nanny romance. I would preface it with I don't think it's, you know, I think it's a little bit of a different single dad nanny romance. Um, I take the trope and kind of put a spin on it.
00:08:08
Speaker
And, you know, you have a grumpy single dad who loves to foster animals, and he's having kind of a rough patch with his son, who has a very good relationship with the nanny. So there's a lot of tension between the three and some avoidance of talking about their feelings. And of course, that really sets us up to go into their Hawaii vacation, of course, because what, you know, if you're on rock on Rocky, footing with each other, going on a vacation is really gonna solve your problem. yes um Because who doesn't love sunshine? So the three of them embark on a kind of journey of self discovery while on their vacation. And I guess, you know, their first impressions of each other were not what you would anticipate. So you got billionaire, single dad, trying to think what else she's a songwriter.
00:08:57
Speaker
Who happens to be a nanny? Why? I don't know. The economy's hard, you know? It's a creative field. It's rough. So yeah, that's probably a really bad elevator pitch. No, it was great. It was good. So like Kendra had mentioned, Love Redesign was the first book in the Lakefront Billionaire series. So was there anything that felt particularly different in writing that book versus
Future Book Insights and Fun Game
00:09:25
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Love Unwritten? Did it come easier, harder since you had kind of already set up Ali and Rafa? How did that like work for you when you were writing it?
00:09:32
Speaker
I think in some ways it was, I felt like I wrote it faster than I thought I did. Um, you know, I feel like it just kind of flowed pretty well once I had the beginning down, because I would say the first 10%, like I'm really kind of testing things out and then I like switch it up. And as an author, I've kind of learned like how I want to push things by a 10% point. So it just like flowed well. on And when it came to love redesign, I had to set up all of the world. Even though I had the town, it was building all these relationships. So I could kind of jump into that. you know I promote them as standalones, but you would enjoy it way more if you read the first one, I would say, because it is a little bit harder. But I just felt like the bones were there, and I could really explore the characters. But then it started of getting longer and longer um and And then became my second longest book. so
00:10:25
Speaker
Well, it was easy. I want to keep writing. Yeah. I mean, they're a good couple to stick around with. So yeah, I wouldn't pull you. And it's like you have Nico, who I feel like is his own character. So you have to focus on that little arc as well. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I love how you played with the dynamics of, like you mentioned in your elevator pitch, like his relationship with his dad, his relationship with Ellie, how his relationship with both of them affects their relationship. He's such a great addition because I feel like there's oftentimes in like a um a single parent romance, the kid kind of gets forgotten for the sake of the romance. And that's just not the case here, which I loved.
00:11:02
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like they're integral to a relationship. And when he's that age two, you can't really like ignore it. They're not, you know, a baby that you put on this, you know, i'm very curious at that age two. So of course, like the things he's like asking them about, like, it all just felt so natural. Yeah, they so many questions. Yeah. Okay, so like on that topic, you have written single mom before and final offer. and But what is the difference between writing a single mom and a single dad if there is any? Oh, this is I feel like where some of the differences came were the age of the of the child. Because even though it's only, you know, what about four and then changes to five year difference, like it is a big difference of that. Yeah. For the kid. Um, I will say sometimes and this is an interesting thing that I talk about with other authors, like, I feel like people can be a little bit hard on Alana because she's more withdrawn and kind of, um,
00:12:01
Speaker
less likely to forgive and just like very jaded toward Cal. And sometimes I can rub people the wrong way. But I feel like with har Rafa, I'll be like, Oh my gosh, she's grumpy. Like, yeah I'm like, I'm like, Helena justice for you. yeah So true. Because I'm like, she's just protecting her kid. And I feel like the Rafa, it's the same thing. But I think
Tour Details and Conclusion
00:12:23
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he can be really grumpy. Like I was like, okay, he can't be decked in level. Like can't give that but he's he's up there with the he's a grumpy guy.
00:12:34
Speaker
Yeah, it's justified though, actually a lot of it or I was like, okay, like, I get it. There's so many, he has so many regrets. And, you know, yeah, I feel like with Declan, he had his a lot we both had their reasons. But yeah, I think that's an interesting thing is exploring the woman's perspective and seeing how people interpret it. And I'll be interested to see how people and readers like view it off as well. Right. All right. We've reached our first game. um Our first game is an easy one. It's just a quote game. So we're going to give you a quote, and you, the author, have to tell us which character said it. There are a couple in here that are are shared between two characters. So we claim two characters. In fact, the very first one is exactly that. You smiled when I screamed. You psychopath. It brought back good memories. Oh.
00:13:25
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And we pulled from all your books a little bit. Yes. And this is all series. All of them. Everybody's got a little something in here, so. You smiled when I screamed, you psychopath. Yeah. And then the next person said it brought back good memories. Would that be Chloe and Santi? No. my Different series. Try again. Different series. Oh, my gosh. OK. I'm going to say Dolly and Julian. That's a really good guess. That is a good guess. That is so confident. It's Alana and Cal. Yeah, it's Alana and Cal. That was on the list of guesses, I swear. You would have gotten there, literally. I would have gotten it. She would have been like, oh, no, they're serious. And I wanted to be like, OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a tough one for the first one, to be fair. Yeah, they're all like when they scream. Yeah.
00:14:18
Speaker
All right, the next one is, I let my low self esteem and insecurity stand in the way of what I wanted with you. And I'll be damned if I let you make that same mistake. In fact, I forbid it because I refuse to spend another 10 years waiting for you to come to your senses. That is Julian Lopez.
00:14:35
Speaker
I need like a dabble. Okay, I think we owe it to ourselves to unapologetically love who we are no matter what, because if you don't love yourself, then why do you expect anyone else to? Well, that's gonna be redeemed. Um, I'm gonna say I just forgot if it was Chloe or something. I think it's Chloe that said it. It is. Okay. You like knew the book right away. That was good. Yeah. Getting you're you're getting it. It's all coming back. Okay. Some may call it a stretch, but they bonded over tequila. If that doesn't scream future friends, I don't know what does.
00:15:12
Speaker
Oh, well I know which series they bond over, Tequila. Which is Dirty Air. I'm just trying to remember if it's throttled or if it'll be wracked. I'm gonna go with wracked.
00:15:27
Speaker
No. so but down yeah Yeah, it's my Maya. yeah yeah You had a narrow job though. yeah you They both drink tequila. big They have a lot of tequila seems there. And I was like, oh, Telena maybe being like, they're going to be friends, but no. All right, the next one. I could spend the rest of forever with you and it still wouldn't be enough time to finish everything I have planned for us. um declan kaine that wasing look at you
00:16:00
Speaker
Okay, this one is two people talking. So um what's your favorite book? If you have a favor, I don't trust you. Any book lover has at least five they can name off the top of their head. That's gonna be Liam and Sophie. you smile you Yeah, I knew you immediately knew just like as soon as Kendra started you started. Yeah, yeah. yeah It's like a test. Yeah. Okay. This one I feel like it's iconic. Yeah, it's iconic. Okay. You better have a massive dick to back up that attitude or else people will be mighty disappointed. That's going to be hilarious. A book that was like unhinged. I just was like, I love it. Let's just go for it. What's the HR? I don't know. Yeah.
00:16:48
Speaker
Yeah. I needed to work in corporate or something. I needed to work in corporate. Next one. I took creative liberties since he was still calling them goats one, two, and three. Oh my gosh. Okay. That's going to be Ellie. Yeah. Okay. You can't call dibs on people. You sound like a B-list rom-com. Okay, that's gonna be Maya to Noah on their date. Yeah. And then Noah says, but I fuck like an A-list porno. Yeah. There you go. There you go. I'm like, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think all my family doesn't listen. My significant other cracked open the fine print like halfway through and I was like, not halfway through. Like, no, no, no. He's like, he's reading. He's like,
00:17:32
Speaker
Vein corn really Lauren and I'm just like, I just want to like melt. He start flexing like, he's like, yeah he's looking at his arms. He's like, really, you wrote that. yeah yeah understand Okay, a couple more. Lie. I'm happy without you. He sighs. I don't think of you at all. I don't wake up every morning dreaming you're there, only to realize none of it's real. Lies, lies, lies. Jack's Kingston. Yes. A little drunk call. All right, last one. If we hadn't met back then, I would have done everything possible to make you like me instead of hate me.
00:18:11
Speaker
Oh, that's gonna be Raffa to Ellie. Yeah. You did so good. I'm surprised. You did really good. We're gonna think we were too easy. You gave me the answers, I know swear. No. No. When we had Gianna Darling on, that one was funny because she was like, is it this person? We're like, no, she's like, oh. There was a couple where we read. She's like, damn, I wrote that. Like, okay. I listened to that episode when I loved Gianna as a person. I was listening and I was like, laughing because I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is gonna be me. how but you guess you killed it You killed it. A plus. Okay, time for our second round of questions. And this next question, you kind of talked about this earlier, it's how about how you took the nanny trope and like spun it around. And I would say like 90% of single dad nanny romances follow like a very, very specific formula that like you did
00:19:05
Speaker
like break the mold to. How did you like first approach the trope? Was that like your plan all along? Or like, did you just start writing and be like, Oh, like that can't work? Hmm, that's a good question. I feel like because I introduced them already in the book before, it didn't make sense. I don't like going back that much in time in like, yeah I think it can confuse readers. So I'm like, I'm they're already working together. Um, but I kind of just sat down and started writing the first chapter and you know, Then it led to the second chapter where Nico's kind of having this struggle with himself and he's struggling with his eyesight and how Ellie kind of manages that with him. So I always knew there was going to be tension between the two of them. I just didn't know where the tension would come from. Like, was it sexual tension or was it more like a relational kind of situation, jealousy?
00:19:58
Speaker
love And I think I just try to ask myself when I'm writing, I'm like, how could I, this trope has been done, right? Like, how can I try to make mine a little different? Like, it doesn't have to be this whole rebrand of a trope. Like, I also wanted to match readers' expectations, but I knew their relationship needed a change, so I had to do things that were different. And I can't tell people anything. like I've tried to not tease anything about it, be super vague.
00:20:29
Speaker
Yeah, and like I loved that because I like went in, you know, like you said, with expectations of what the trope is going to be, but like so pleasantly surprised with the directions it took. So I love that you've been very vague about it. Making the reading experience really fun. Yeah, I remember when I was and reading, I was like, I messaged I was like, did that just happen? Like what happens like very early on? And you're like, yeah, like I was like, Oh, like, I feel like that would have been any other books third at conflict. And you made it like your first and I thought that was like so smart. so Yeah, when when I was reading as well, i you know I think a lot of us are in the habit of not necessarily always reading descriptions. So I knew like the basis of this book, that it was a single dad, that it was nanny, that they go to Hawaii. you know I knew like all that and everything that I you know knew previously from Love Redesigned.
00:21:15
Speaker
but I didn't read the description before reading the arc of this book and so I had just assumed that like the thing that we keep talking about was like maybe in the back of the book and I was like oh yeah I had no idea it's on the back of the book and Kinder was like no no it wasn't on the back of the book at all and I'm like oh yeah fun yeah so I like that that was a nice surprise yeah I'm glad. Yeah, I think it's like, as I kind of keep writing more books, I'm like, how can I like say the least amount about the book with that? Yeah, while still giving people enough that they'd want to read it. Kind of a fun challenge. And with teasing, I'm like, I try to hold back from certain teasers now. And yeah,
00:21:52
Speaker
yes Yeah, i'll go we talked about this the first time you were on but like we just like love how you run your socials as well just like you I feel like you get the perfect amount ah for people to be like really invested and really excited and also people like obviously you've built a community of readers that really trust you so it makes reading your book so fun. Oh, I love them. It's kind of fun. I guess because writing, obviously, I still am very passionate about it. But I feel like social media, these graphic design things like covers, that's where I can have fun in a different way. Yeah. That's kind of showing creativity. I don't do the magic behind the scenes. I just talk to my graphic design. Collaborate. Right.
00:22:30
Speaker
I love that. So Love Unwritten is a very musical book, as you mentioned, Ellie is a songwriter. ah So what was your musical inspiration while you were writing or any research you did about the process and all that stuff? And then is there an overall song that you associate with the book? who I think as far I was listening to a lot of Noah Khan's stick season while writing this book. um And I feel like with the folky vibe, that's where I was leaning toward. as far as inspiration goes. And I was trying to write depressing songs, like, yeah. And so I think it was really hard, you know, because I'm not, I don't play musical instruments. So trying to come up with like, lyrics, and I would just listen to a lot of sad albums, I would say, while writing the book. And then when I was particularly writing, like, I would just kind of get in my own world and try to come up with like these
00:23:26
Speaker
Cause songs have storylines to them. That's where I would try to come up with these different stories. Right. That would inspire them. I thought that just made so much sense for like Ellie's backstory too. And like, I love how we like get more glimpses of her songs as we learn more about her and like adds to the context of who she is. I love that. I'm glad. It's like a, it's a fine line. Cause I, I'm like, Oh, I can't make it cringy. there's like there is a fine line and i I don't know where it is so I would ask all my beta readers I'm like is the are the lyrics okay like is it like you know I don't want it to be like you know you read it and you're just like good try Lauren like stick to the the books and like even in the audio I was nervous it's like they were gonna sing cuz like they'll sing but they don't do that they just like they like speak them and I was like yeah
00:24:12
Speaker
her yeah yeah was It was a discussion point. Like it was a brought up just like, do you want them to sing? And I'm like, I don't even know the melodies. So I kind of have of the melody or like the beats, right? Like Tommy syllables. But I was like, you know what? Let's just have them talk, talk it out. Yeah. I just finished an audio book where there is singing and and they sounded fine, they but I listened to my audio books on like two speed, at least at minimum. who So they were like, but it little little like the it sounded very odd. Lauren, is there an overall song that you associate with the book? Oh, oh well, you were asking one song that I do have.
00:24:56
Speaker
I think is a gold rush. from Evermore with Taylor Swift, but I don't think that's the whole book. I'm trying to think. And I'm not gonna say unwritten, okay? Even though. I know that song had like a real moment, like recently. Yes, I think he's already titled the book and then that movie came out and then it's like everywhere. And I'm telling you, my partner would just play the song. Like we'd be in the car and he'd just be like's like, he's like, uh-huh, yeah, you wrote this book. And he's like, let's really, he's like, you could do the acoustic version on the playlist.
00:25:28
Speaker
like yeah thankspa yeah yeah like yeah' so funny So I'm not going to say that one, but it was played quite a lot. So originally when writing this book, Ellie, Nico and Rafa were supposed to go on a European vacation. yeah Why did you ultimately choose to go to Hawaii? So, um, funny was that I had gone to Europe and I was picturing a nine-year-old or at that time like eight-year-old just, I don't think that that was for him, you know, the type of trip he wanted because he was very inspired by, you know, YouTube and wanting to go to Hawaii. But I think the context of it, I, it just didn't work. Like at that, I thought it's very like a kid to be like, oh, I want to go here instead. And I think Rafa,
00:26:19
Speaker
It fits into their characters as well. like He wants to just please his son and he'll make him happy and he'll go and rework a whole trip to be exactly what he wants because he thinks that's the solution to their troubles. So desperate at that time. yeah So it was it was part of me picturing like, can I see them going on this Europe trip besides going to the F1 race? And I was like, No, but I also see Nico being like, I want to go do this instead. I love that we still got to see them like, have that F1 experience though. Oh, yes. Yeah, that was good. Okay, so we are at our next game, and it's a Would You Rather game, which is something that Ellie and Rafa play a little bit of. And we thought we'd play one with you here. So we'll give you different scenarios and you just have to pick which one you want. And all these scenarios are from yearbooks too. Oh.
00:27:06
Speaker
oh Okay, first one, would you rather have Dahlia design the inside of your home or have Ellie write a song about you? Oh my gosh, sorry. As someone who was like a Zillow warrior at the moment, I would agree. I agree. I'm not like good at like interior design. Like i I change it too much and I like get in my head too much about it. So I'm like, I just need somebody to like be like, do this. And I'm like, okay, yes. Yeah, or just do it for me. And yeah, giving the good and also, sometimes the Pinterest, it's like these mansions you see. And I'm like, can I just have a normal home? in house yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I only have what eight foot ceilings, like just give me just like what it would look like. Yeah. So yes, I would rather her design it.
00:27:54
Speaker
Agree. Love that. Love Ellie, but agree. Yeah, love Ellie. Next one, would you rather have your sibling over here, you having sex with their rival, or have your parents embarrass you in front of your crush from high school? Oh my God, for sure. Rather have my best friend. Yes. Have a speaker, go do whatever you need to do. Create a confessional book. I don't care. Not have my sibling hear me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, thank you. Good thing you do such a good job of him not hearing them and throttled. Yeah. Like I'm just, wouldn't be me. That's for, that's okay.
00:28:37
Speaker
Okay, would you rather have Seth Kane as a father-in-law or Nicholas Slade as a father-in-law?
00:28:49
Speaker
Wow. I was like, who are the like the worst guys? Yeah, you definitely picked some contenders there. yeah I feel like I would probably rather deal with a Nicholas Slade than a Seth King. I would probably cry and yeah rock in a corner and just not be the type of woman that I don't like a deckling it. Like Iris is great. I could never do what she does with. So no, I'll pick Nicholas say, cause then we can be like, bye, you suck. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to go away. He just kind of like very, a yeah. <unk>s He's very easy to avoid, but second, like, I feel like he's always always there. Yeah. and looing sal Yeah. Don't like him. Would you rather go on a Hawaiian vacation with your boss or go on a dreamland trip with your boss?
00:29:42
Speaker
so Hawaiian vacation. Dreamland, love you. yeah love With respect. you know or so me like Let's say it's me, most likely, you know, I already have been to Dreamland at some point in my life. yeah Florida, us so I'll be like taking you to Hawaii. Yeah, somewhere different. Yeah, absolutely. First class, are you kidding? Yes. yeah Yeah. Next one. Would you rather babysit Marco? from Redeemed or Nico from Love Unwritten? Aww. Yeah. Which child is your favorite? yeah
00:30:21
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I feel like I would have such a fun time with Marco. Yeah. Do you need to slay dragons and just like build a fort and stuff? like I love you Nico baby, but Marco is also really cute. I love that age group of like four to five. Me too. Adore it. so Like, I'll babysit, no problem. So love that. We'll still play when we go. Yeah. Okay. Uh, last one. Would you rather complete a bucket list or vlog while traveling around the world during F1 season?
00:30:55
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Oh my god. Okay, this is, listen, I'm not cut out for the content creation. oh Like if I had to vlog, I'm not that interesting. It would be a lot of picky eater, the picky eater's guide to like eating. That would be my vlog. How do you get chicken nuggets at a five-star restaurant? Is there pizza yes or no? It would be a very interesting Vlog or like trying to get different croquettas like around like, you know Europe or something Yeah, I think that unless it was that type of content. I'm better. I'm better cut out for just doing the fucking and pushing myself out of my boundary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good for you. Yeah. Exactly. I feel like I'm very more like a safe, like, I don't even, I don't have a bucket list in that you have a mental one, I guess. Right. I do that.
00:31:45
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Yeah. Oh, I love that. Minus the cliffs. That one. Too much. Okay, so we are going to move into like, I guess, spoiler territory now. So if you have not read Love Unwritten yet, and you don't want to hear this discussion, you can go read the book and then come back. But to start off- Or skip ahead to our last page. Yeah, or skip ahead. Sorry, Kayla really wants you to come back and finish this. No, I want you to come back and finish. I want you to come back and finish. Just skip. Okay, so love unwritten is probably one of, if not your slowest burn of a romance thus far. Was that a conscious decision or did that just happen naturally? Well, it is one of the slowest burns. I'd have to go crack open redeemed because I feel like they had a long
00:32:32
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80 something percent that they had their moment, but I could be wrong. Maybe it was 90. I think those two are the slowest burn. I just can't remember if Redeem was like 90 something percent or not. Um, originally I had, I had a spicy scene earlier in Lemon Ridden. And then as I was reading the book again, um, up until that point, I was like, it doesn't fit. Um, I was talking to my alpha reader about that. And, and I was like, I think I have to push it back, but we're already at like 60 something percent here and are 70%. And.
00:33:06
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I that's gonna be rough. Will people not like it? And I was just like, I'm just gonna do it anyways. on But there's a spoiler so I can say yeah, you can. yeah you Yeah, like the scene where she has her scars, like he listens to silver with scars and then goes to the room. That was going to be like a much spicier scene. And then I like the direction it took instead to be more emotional and like he kisses scars and like they have their moment and that's it. Um, I felt like it fit better and not to have them like hook up in Hawaii. um I thought it did fit like really natural for when they do like have sex because like their foundation was already like really, really solid. So I was like, all right, yeah, like go for it. Go have all the sex you want. And then it's trying to catch up because then you're like, now it can't be too much spice, but you're only gonna have one scene. I'm not sure. Are we good? And it was. Yeah.
00:34:00
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Oh yes, it was a slow burn for sure. Yeah, maybe Redeemed didn't feel as long that just because it's a shorter book. so And then because this one is quite like it's a longer book. Is it longer than Love Redesign? It is longer. Yeah, by about 20,000 words. Okay. 20,000 words in pages. I don't know what that is. That's at least, that that's like, yeah, like maybe a hundred pages. Really? 75. The formatting's a little off. Like people are like, Oh my God. Yeah.
00:34:31
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700 pages I'm like it's not like that long on a Kindle book but yeah definitely you don't feel I mean it doesn't I write it on my Kindle same thing with love redesigned you know I I knew that this one was longer pretty sure but like it didn't feel like yeah also there's the um elevator scene in Redeem that I feel like that was yeah like yeah um love degree like blushing that he like mason giggles Okay so then with love unwritten since we're in spoiler territory what is the hardest scene that you had to write the funniest in your opinion and your personal favorite and then we'll we'll we'll tell you our favorites as well. whoa
00:35:14
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ah I feel like you all pick the best ones and I'm trying to rack my brain. Probably all have very similar ones, honestly. Yeah. I actually don't think we've talked about this. The three of us, too. I can't wait to hear what your most favorite scenes are. Okay. Oh, my favorite scene to write. Okay. I really loved the kittens chapter where they walked the kittens. That was one of my favorites. And I love the names too. They're so cute. Yeah. So I would say that's one of my favorites because like they're very, they're kind of like comfortable with each other at that point. And you get to see their true personalities. I think without all of the, like, like he's still grumpy, Raffa's still grumpy, but Ellie's more bubbly and like trusting of him. And you can kind of see how their relationship will be. I guess that's why one of the reasons I love it. And then one of the hardest scenes. Oh my goodness. I think maybe the firing was hard. Like really trying to nail. I would say it's that period of time that was difficult because it's trying to both of them are right and both of them are wrong. So trying to like balance that out and make the reader understand both because if you read it
00:36:25
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And you sympathize or empathize with Ali's point of view. And you're like, Rafa's such an asshole. like He shouldn't have fired her. like like I want people to be kind of torn. Split. Yeah. I think you accomplished that really well. like There's just so much protective energy from Rafa in that moment that you completely understand why both of them did what they did. Yeah and I love when he was like calling everyone up saying that like he fired her and they're like yeah okay like you like yeah she like fucked up but like you didn't have to be like that mean about it like you could have gone about it a different way so I really liked that. Yeah she's like 24 hours notice like you get to say bye and it's just like okay sir it's like yeah you know she could have said bye or you know and then she's she's like a flight a flyer in that way um and then okay wait what was the last one funniest oh funniest
00:37:13
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Oh, okay. One of the funniest I will say is when like Lorenzo comes to family dinner. I'm more funny on like my end because like I'm imagining all this interaction of like Julian Lorenzo and I think like Lorenzo's interactions in general like Julian can't stand him and like, yeah yeah, like those little bits in the scenes. It's not a lot. But I think those were like funny to me. Yeah, Lorenzo was so good in this book, too. Like, he's still such an enigma. Like, I don't like know anything about him. But like, I still like his personality really shine through. And there was a moment I think it's like Willow talking. She was like, Oh, he's not the worst man in the world. And Ellie's like, Oh, is that on his dating profile? Oh, fucking funny. Like, I love that. Like, we got like bits of him, like being really invested in his friendship with Willow to I'm like, Okay, so he's not just like an asshole. We know that he like cares about people. He doesn't have a ton of people. Like, I yeah, I'm so excited for his book.
00:38:06
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Oh, yay. Yeah. Okay. So I think we should, the three of us should go around and say like what some of our favorite scenes are. Um, the kittens, I was going to say that one as well. So I love that. And then I feel like I'm going to, Kendra's probably going to say this one too, but when we learned that ah Ellie is getting on the plane for London to go overseas to help write with Cole and then at first I thought that she like he just upgraded her seat I thought that like and then like the literally the next like page it's him coming next to her he's going with her for the first little bit. That's my favorite scene too. Yeah I also love Cole.
00:38:43
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because I wasn't expecting that. That's good. That's what I love to hear. That's a buzzword. I definitely wasn't either. um I also like like maybe weirdly enough the scenes when he does leave Europe and she's on her own and like they're separated. I love like the little the rule book and like him sending her some of the gifts and stuff like that. I love those chapters where they were separated and like had to talk that way. I was so obsessed with him 3D printing the flower and sending it to her because she's like, I'm sad I have to leave them. Yeah. And, um, I just want to say like the scene, the specific part where he does send her, uh, the vibrator and they have a little fun time over the phone. I was reading it out at the carwash. I was sitting at the carwash when my car was getting cleaned. And I'm like, Oh, this is, the people were like, why is your face so red? I'm good.
00:39:33
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Yeah, I obviously like love the plane scene so much. like I thought that was just like so special and so sweet. I love when he fires her for the second time because the whole time I was reading, I was like, oh my God, like this is going to be like their conflict. like He's going to get mad that like she's going on tour, like like leaving. and He was like, remember that I like you. And then she's like, yeah, he's like, okay, you're fired. And he kisses her. And I was like, that was just like, so good. But I also really love the scene where they're in Hawaii. And Nico's asking her about her scars on her body and like just how that whole conversation was handled because he is such a curious kid, but I thought it was handled with like such care. And I just I love that a lot. I kind of I love everything with Ellie and like self harm, like
00:40:18
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I don't know. I think every book where I read where a character is so harmed, it's never in like romance. I've only read it in like literary fiction books and it's usually like a very tragic book. But seeing it this way where like someone who has dealt with it and like has to live with it and is trying to be like ah know better for themselves, like I don't know. I thought you just handled that really, really well. It was heavy at times, but it was really good. i like I liked in that specific scene that you were talking about, Kendra, where he asked about it and he said he's curious, whatever. It's not like they like try and like make something up, you know, they tell him the truth, but they tell him the truth in a way that I think that someone like his age would be able to understand it and still understand maybe, maybe not the full gravity of it, but he understands that, you know, sometimes people um who are hurting hurt themselves, you know, et cetera, things like that. So I don't know. Yeah, I appreciate that. I love that viewpoint of it. Yeah. The plane scene was my favorite one, probably.
00:41:15
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Yeah, I just I loved the dynamics of like Ellie being able to understand kind of Rafa's background more when he explains it because like she's dealt with my parents like being shitty and like having somebody come in and like be the parent that she needed and so yeah I just I loved that I loved to how they understood each other in that way and how they like didn't talk to anybody in their lives really about that except for each other and they were I love when like tough characters have a soft place to land and like can be soft with somebody and like I love that Ellie was that for Rafa especially. Yeah like being vulnerable I think it's hard I mean it's hard for all of us to be vulnerable someone and it requires a lot of trust and he has no reason to really trust people even though he just trusts his family but to what extent like yeah because like he doesn't want to be a burden like he's felt like that his whole life like yeah
00:42:05
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And I think the one thing that did kill me I think that was hard was um seeing like how Rafa has to deal with like some of the things that he does influences his own son and how he views like for example crying or feeling hate like having that impact and not realizing it and needing someone else to tell you like it's kind of one of those like oh shit moments and yeah I really I like that scene too when they're And then Rafa kind of gets teary-eyed. And he was like, I got sand in my eye. He's like, I lied. Yeah. Oh my god. OK, I have one more favorite scene. Sorry, Kayla. No, no. Go ahead. It's when they're at the dinner. And it's like towards the end. um Because throughout the book, we learn about Rafa and his like food insecurity. Oh, yeah. I just love that. el like That wasn't like a thing that like got solved in this book. like I love that it's like, OK, this is just a thing that he like does.
00:42:57
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And I love that she like supported him through that and like you see her like just automatically give him her food. And I thought that was just like so, like it's like such little things like that that like make such a big difference. And I love that so much. Yes. Oh my God, I completely agree, Kendra. What I was going to say was not nearly as emotionally impactful. No, no, no. It's not even a scene. It's just something that it's going to say that I love about Rafa is because I love animals. i love am And so I love that he also has his own animals. That's all. Sorry, nothing crazy. His meaning behind the animals, I think. His emotions, like I related to the straight. I was like, oh my God, somebody love this man. I was going through it while writing this book. I don't know. I just was like, I'm going to pour it all into this book and just see what comes out. Because I felt like when I was done writing it, I was like presenting it.
00:43:55
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you know and i was like it's It's kind of like Dirty Year was like feeling really sad, and but it's, you know, different. But it gives us those elements. So like this in Wrecked could be sisters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They haven't followed I've written a book to that, like, that sadness. I was surprised when people were like, it's really angsty, or it's very sad. I was like, Oh, oh okay. yeah yeah it's good yeah Our last question before our last game, um we asked you this with love redesigned as well when you came on earlier, but what's a scene that you're hoping doesn't get spoiled on social media before readers have a chance to experience it themselves? like There's so many. There's so many. All the ones we mentioned.
00:44:40
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yeah yeah i feel like I just would want i I would rather people go in blind and do like a really, you know, like out of context or I don't know, because I feel like I wouldn't want the firing to be but that's not even I think it's like the little things, the little gestures that if you read, I mean, because they're like micro tropes, but I'm sure you all have. You're way better at this than me. In a perfect world, the firing would be kept secret. I think that's like one of the best parts. A big punch. I also like the plane scene. like i really i could just i I can picture how people would format that video. I'm like, no, don't. What song are they going to use?
00:45:29
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Yeah. That one is a big one. That's true. That's true. Because I think it has such a hearing it from you all now. i'm like It has an impact like i don't know you in a perfect world like not to have that one. Because it's still toward the end. I think that at that point, you like really understand like how much this relationship means to both of them at that point, too. Yeah. So yeah all good things. Yeah. All right. We'll hop into our last game. This one is Pitch a Book. okay So we're going to have three different categories. There's a category for the trope, a category for the location of the book, and a category that's a wild card options. So we are going to give you a list of things for you to choose from, and that will determine your trope, your location, your wild card. We'll give you a couple of minutes to think, and then hopefully you can tell us how you would turn that into a Lauren Asher book.
00:46:20
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ah yeah Give me time to do it somewhere with you. Yes, absolutely. Take as much time as you need. so The first one is going to be your trope. You're going to pick a color. I'm going to tell you the tropes that are on the table, and then I'll have you pick a color, and then I'll match that to whatever trope. Okay. so We have enemies to lovers, age gap, forbidden romance, marriage of convenience, surprise pregnancy, second chance, and bully romance. so yeah so you're gonna pick a color what's like your favorite color or just pick any color it doesn't have to be your favorite okay i'm gonna say orange okay orange is second chance oh okay i gotta write this down i'm taking this okay um so the next next one will be your location and it'll be off of your birth month and i'm gonna read the list first and then
00:47:15
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Well, you'll tell us what your birth month. Coachella, deserted island, on a plane, the bean in Chicago, a farm slash barn, Chili's, a truck stop, the ones you always see on a road trip, a vendor's tower, a meat locker, the Coliseum space or a cruise ship. When is your birth month? Oh my God. Could you imagine if I got space? I'm not because it's June. Welcome to Chili's. We love Chili's. Happy birth month, Lauren, by the way. yeah Listen, it I saw i saw you know the volcano cake or whatever. Listen, um'm I'm thinking that molten cake. yeah i'm got Now you can yeah go spend your birthday at Chili's.
00:48:01
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i keep I keep getting those videos of people trying the triple dipper and I'm like, oh my God, I got to go try the triple dipper at Chili's. It's laughs, I won't lie to you. yeah um Okay, so the next one is going to be off of your coffee or tea order. So the options are the FMC uncontrollably shifts into a rat at any given time. The FMC has a secret twin who is out for revenge. The MMC used to be a porn star. He's a time traveler from 1776. The FMC is $2 million dollars deep in a credit card debt.
00:48:36
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Their parents were once lovers for years. The male main character has scissors for hands or he's a brony, which is like a My Little Pony mega fan. So let's start off, are you a coffee drinker or a tea drinker mostly? I'm a coffee drinker. Okay, so the options are a latte, black coffee, cappuccino or frappuccino. Latte. So she does shift into a rabbit any given time.
00:49:10
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Hey, you know what? Your chili is good work. That chili is getting shut down. They're finding the health department. I mean, I've always wanted, I love shifter books, but listen. Yeah, you do. That's right. The rat is something I have not explored as a reader. This is like an Animorphs episode. I can picture the cover.
00:49:37
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With the Chili's background, like that illustrated cover, yes. The neon the neon Chili sign, and yeah. It's a second chance, so. Yeah, yes. So just to recap for everybody, this is a second chance romance that is at least partially taking place in Chili's, where our FMC is a rat shifter who cannot control her shifting. Wow. single all the time you need yeah but me up to pitch this to I mean I can set up the beginning. Hey, we'll take anything you got. Yeah. So I think that the ex-boyfriend is a manager at Chili's. Okay. Yeah.
00:50:17
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um makes good money He makes great money. I think he manages at least multiple restaurants. Yeah. yeah um And she wants to get revenge on him. So she pulls a prank because she shifts into a rat while she knows that, ah what do you call those? The health inspector is going to be there? like he sounds sp yeah Yeah, I think the rat has a little special coloring on it or something. A little pink bow. I don't know what the rat is. A pink bow. She's so cute. She's a coquette rat. A coquette rat? No, that does not sound good. Sounds too much like a movie like Cocaine Bear. so yeah
00:51:01
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on So then she wants to get the restaurant shut down for revenge and she shifts into a rat. The health inspector does slap them with a, you know, whatever they do. got a close or something. Yeah, I think the man I think he I think he is a wolf shifter. So I think he is going to be the bottom of like the hierarchy of shifters because she's a rat shifter. And he's like the alpha of the pack. So then there's angst there because he can't ever get with her. Like I think they were like mates and he rejected her. That's why they broke up. That's why they broke up. Exactly.
00:51:39
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And like, you know, she does her rat little business and she's like, okay, I'm going to show you and like ruins his career as a chilis manager. And, you know, I think, I think there are second chance faded mates, but rejected mates. And, you know, I think she, I think she figures out that she can shift into more than just a rat. She's like this super powered, I can shift into anything. She's like the one of a kind. The power dynamics switch. Exactly. And then he thinks she's amazing because she does shift into a wolf, but it was like trapped within her. So she's just this little rat, but she can do anything. and Who can do anything? and anything That's the title.
00:52:26
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She's like a shoe rat. and he's a yeah I'm seeing some really classic Lauren Asher groveling in this because she's like, you only like me now because I can shift into a wolf. And he has to prove like, no, it's not about that. yeah He needs to get in contact with Declan. And he needs to figure out what he needs to do. yeah And Rowan. It's like the Kane Academy. Groveling. They really do a great job. I think the Lopez brothers and cousins were really the ones that they also seminars. for them yeah so true and you know Rafa loves animals so maybe they like spend some time yeah yeah they're in like wisteria yeah they're in chilies and like wisteria it's like a hidden lake no i think i think they're in ah and another lake town okay but it's you know this magical like everyone thinks it's normal you know portals yes yes it's really i'm gonna put all of my i love paranormal and like sci-fi i'm gonna put all of that into this hell yes yeah
00:53:24
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Yeah. of that And when this hits the top of the charts of the New York Times bestsellers, please remember us. You heard it. here yeah What was the title? You titled it. The Rat Who Can Do Anything. Sounds like a children's book. It does. i won I'll never forget when I was like, when I charted on Wall Street Journal and it was with like little blue truck or something. as I made it. Those are cool favorites, okay? like my Like I saved it and I just, that's what he told my family. I'm like, I made it with like little blue truck. That's amazing.
00:53:59
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I forget who it was, but it was like a really spicy book and it was charting next to the Caterpillar, like famous Caterpillar children's book. Oh, Hungry, Hungry Caterpillar. Listen, you're pushing, you're pushing units if you're next to them. Yeah. I read that book, you know, we all did from the unit. So honestly, those are goals. It's like to be listed with an icon. I said that really weird, but... um Amazing.
00:54:31
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And this um is about to be there. Thank you so much for pitching that book, Lauren. I loved it. amazing yeah I hope you all made it. We will. I will. yeah yeah yeah I'll be seated. um So we have a few more questions to wrap up. So ah we talked about a lo Lorenzo a little bit, I am going to just assume that he could be the protagonist or one of them in the book three. So is there anything that you can tell us about the next book in the Lakefront billionaire series? And to get people excited? Yes, yes. So I do say in the back of Rafa's book, that there's a save the date. So I sent out a save the date in the back of the ebook for Lily and Lorenzo's.
00:55:12
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a range, engagement, fake dating, fake fiance. There you go. That's, I gotta get the stroke down. That's important. Ease it. you What can I say before? Well, Lorenzo, I mean, it's kind of like what's in the book, like no one, I mean, I think it's not, you have to read between the lines. I will say that not, I, he's not a reliable narrator. So if some things are said, I wouldn't take it for fact all the time. Okay. Yeah. And if someone if someone finds something out secondhand, I mean, I don't know. Lorenzo is clever. He's a shifty guy. Yeah. So that's what I would say. I've never written like unreliable or, you know, yeah. Lauren, that is so like enticing. That makes me so excited. Yeah. I feel you have to reread, if you reread parts,
00:56:07
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you be and Because they say, they're like, no one knows why Lilly's doing it. Lorenzo doesn't know why Lilly's doing it. I'm like, dude, is that true? Doesn't really not know. Yeah. Because I i try to pay like very close attention to Lilly and what she's doing. Even from like book one, I'm like, OK, who's she texting? Oh, why is she like a little like down? like What's going on with her? so I will ask you something. Does anyone ever wonder who she was dancing with on Halloween with the mask? Gag. Gag. All three of our faces. We were like, oh, I didn't even think of that. Oh my God. Me either. And technically like Lorenzo's the one character from this series that like we've spent, we've known the longest because you introduced him first in Final Offer. So it's like, yeah yeah. I think that's why we didn't even like finish. I'm just like, I've been with this character for already three books and he's so, he's interesting to me. He's not like the others in that way. Yeah.
00:57:06
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He's not grumpy. He's just kind of a jerk and standoffish. Yeah. And like I said, I'm glad we don't know too much about him because sometimes like in series like that, where like they, there's a character that like, Oh, I can't wait for their book. And like, you already know so much about them. Some of the time you get to their book, they're like, what else is there to know? Yeah. But with him, I'm like, literally can't take anything about him. He just confuses me in the best way. I'm glad cause it's, yeah, you don't, I didn't want to say too much because also I don't, I don't know where things are going to go. i'm I'm very like exploratory. I have an idea of where I'll get to in the end. But like the the nitty gritty, I'm not sure when I'm starting to write. So now I'm more sure I've already written like 30 something percent of it. So now I do. So I have to be more careful because I know. Yeah. All right. And lastly, where can readers expect to see you this year, Lauren? Oh, this year? We're only half. I feel like so.
00:58:03
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Maybe other people will have this this issue, but I feel like it's wedding season for me, this next phase of my life. So it's really hard because I, oh, well I'm going on tour. I was like waiting for you to say that. I was like, I'm pretty sure you have a tour coming up, ah but I don't know your schedule. yeah You're all like looking at me. I'm like, wait, I know I'm traveling. I think i I'm already moving. like I'm like, oh, what's after that? So I will be in. Cincinnati, Chicago, and Ann Arbor. So I'll be doing a little mini tour. And then after that, and I have like weddings. So I was jumping all ah all the way over there. But so I won't be like at any other cons or signing sadly. tonight Well, the Midwest girlies will be fed. but Yeah. so Yeah. Yeah. But you're all going to book Bonanza.
00:58:49
Speaker
No, we're not. well We're going to steamy lit, so we'll be there. Oh, that's the one that I would have wanted to go to. Yeah. Yeah. What kind of news is happening like next week? Very soon, isn't it? is something stupid do Yeah, and it's the last one, so. Yeah, crazy. So. Into Venera. It is. But I hope steamy lit's fun. I hope to go to that one one day, for sure. Yeah. Next year, it'll be in October. Yeah, it's over Halloween. and Halloween. In 2025. Yeah. Ooh. That's better. It could be fun. Well, thank you so much for being here, Lauren. This was so fun. no Thank you for having me. I know it's always such a good time. whenever You can invite me whenever. I will be always down. But I love listening as like for fun. And you know it's very it's ah such a great podcast. I can't say thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, ah hopefully next time we won't make you.
00:59:42
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pitch a book about the rat. That was a challenge. I love thinking outside the box. You crushed it. As of this episode airing, you can get Love Unwritten anywhere that you get your books. So it's on Kindle. It's physical. It is on audio. We got to listen to the audio. So good. Yay. Awesome. Bye. Bye. Bye.