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After The Final Pour - S7E9 - Rabid Brewing - Double-Barrel "Manticore"
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This week we try Rabid Brewing's double barrel aged "Manticore".
"A beautifully smooth, endlessly attractive, and utterly timeless Russian Imperial Stout. A chimera of brewing deftness and a hefty dose of oatmeal, this crating pushes the tradition of stout making into The Halls of Immortals. This one goes to eleven. Double barrel aged in bourbon and pecan whiskey barrels."
https://www.rabidbrewing.com/
Thanks to Kevin and Deb Goggin for the theme song.
Outro music by Fluid Minds
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Transcript
Introduction and Setting the Scene
00:00:30
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When life gives you an empty cup
00:00:45
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Welcome to After the Final Pour, brought to you by The Malting Hour. I am one of your hosts, Tony Golic, joined always with... Brandon Winningger. And to my left... Danny Pauley. And in the back... Clark Fertridge. Hey guys, how's it going? Good man, how are you? Pretty good. Dan, how are you doing? Good. Good. Feeling good. His hat's on backwards now. It means he's in chill mode, you know? He's ready to just kick back and have a couple beers. Watch the Grammys. Jazzy vibes. Jazzy vibes, I like it.
00:01:17
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We're doing an After Thunder 4 from the Pumpkin episode, so we still have horror movies on in case you guys want to know what's going on. Clark, how you doing back over there? I'm great, thanks man. Wow, you're staring off into the distance like Dan was when he was trying to think about the jolly pumpkin beer that we had.
Beer Feature: New Release with Wax Cap
00:01:31
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Ooh, this smells, so Brandon poured something for us, and the only thing I saw was that there was a wax cap, so my thought was it's got to be barrel aged. It was a bomber. Yeah, and so it's the aroma is
00:01:45
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Like a Burberry. Yeah, for sure. I'm gonna give it a sip. Has anybody taken a sip yet? No. Yes. Uh, Clark? Well, Brandon, you know what beer it is. We're gonna hold off on what you think first. Yeah, we're actually real quick. Brandon, have you had this beer before? You're not. It's the first time. Nope. Okay. Clark, go ahead. It tastes like a...
00:02:08
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barrel aged stout without any adjuncts or anything that I can tell at the moment. Until you, wait, don't bring it up yet. I'm getting like maybe chocolate added, cacao, and I'm getting some age on it, like some oxidation myself. Yeah, it's older. It's about a year old. Really? I was gonna guess older than that. It's not, yeah, I was gonna say the same thing. I thought maybe it was a little older.
00:02:39
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the body on it is not it's not very thick it's kind of thin it's got a nice like little white foamy head too it's not like that dark roasty head get a lot of barrel some roastiness maybe some
00:02:57
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Burnt sugar, toffee. I will say there is a little alcohol burn going down my chest. Yeah, I feel it. It's very warming to my face from the booze. Oh, I'm using your face. In your face. I like it. It's very nice. I would like to, I wonder how this, it's a nice temperature for it too to taste that. I feel like this would also be good. This is a little colder to me.
00:03:27
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I don't know why. The body's kind of thin. I was going to say, it's weird. Is it carved? So it feels like it's thicker, I feel like. And I don't know if it's just the alcohol burn or the carb that I'm getting on my tongue when I switch it in my mouth. But it feels bigger for that.
Deep Dive: Manticore by Rabid Brewing
00:03:49
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But then when it goes down my throat, it feels lighter. So it's kind of weird. I know it doesn't really make sense, but it makes sense in my head. I wanted to make a gross joke.
00:03:57
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Swirling it around, the booziness of it, actually. You hear that? ASMR. Swishy, swishy. Like, it really opens up like... Is it just... Is it just bourbon? I want to know... No, I want... I want him to... I still think it's a straight imperial barrel-aged stout. I don't think it's like a chocolate thing or... Do you think it's just bourbon barrel, though? You mean other barrels? Yeah.
00:04:28
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like rye or something or like rum rum or anything like that any other i'm thinking just i'm thinking just yeah i'm thinking something like imperial pajamas even though it would probably be in a can this is
00:04:46
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I wish you didn't say something like that. That's why they said right because I just said I'm like, well, I usually I don't love I barely know and I like this. This is I'm not getting right. No, no, it's it's I think because he said it maybe some whiskey. But I was gonna ask like if if branding could tell us I'm trying to like think of what beer should be but if it is it like from the Chicagoland area what reason of the country is from Chicagoland.
00:05:09
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Is it from Chicago or an outlying suburb? Outlying suburb. Is it from microphone? No. Because then it would have been like thick and then covered in adjuncts and I would have dumped it. You like sweet stuff. Yeah, but if I know it's a microphone.
00:05:33
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Down the drain pinpointing from whom it came is a difficult task Racking my brain who makes like Who may would you like a hint? Yeah a tiny hint past guest
00:05:51
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Mmm, rabbit brewing. Yes! I was going to say the... What is that? It's called Rabbit Brewing. Episode 50. Their Imperial Stout. That I don't know. No, but this is, my friends, this is Manticore. They're double barrel-aged bourbon and...
00:06:14
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Double barrel age in bourbon and pecan whiskey barrels. Hey, so there was a second barrel and you said whiskey. So you got that What's the ABB? I said whiskey 12% 12% really I'm getting some like the heat going down my Chest here. It could be because I've been drinking already, but that feels like it's a little bit more than 12% No, I get that too good and
00:06:38
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It's kind of why I chose it, because I could have gone bigger, but 12% I felt like was just borderline enough. Very good. It's very good. As soon as you said past guest, that's the only thing I can think of, because I know I also calculated that you had gotten something from Rabid that was barely Asian. I have not heard you talk about it yet. The two things I thought you... One was Rabid, the other one I thought you might have said is Brickstone.
00:07:03
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Mmm, but I also if you brought out a can I would have thought brickstone. Yeah. Well, I was trying to wreck my brain. I do have a bottle of waxes Yeah, I know the the wax bottle and bomber. I was like who's waxing using bombers still
00:07:17
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That was a tough one. Good job, Rabid. So, I mean, now we've discussed it. What do you guys think about it? Like, overall? Actually, I feel like we should have asked this before we found out. No, I think I said it earlier. It's a super solid barrel age straight forward. I mean, I think it's very good. Not too overpowering in any sense. Not underwhelming in any sense, I think it's...
00:07:43
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for a non-adjunct stout, a barrel-aged stout. This is really good. Well, that's why I said imperial pajamas because it's always just super solid. The regular, obviously. There's not
Light-hearted Banter and Personal Stories
00:07:56
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a whole lot. It's what you want a barrel-aged stout to be.
00:08:00
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I was just looking at Dan. Dan looked like he was deep in thought. Well, I was looking down, but he looked like a sad kid for a second when he had the glass. Like, why am I doing this? I was staring at the beer when I was trying to think like, okay, I'm getting like just like a slight hint of that like soy sauce I get from Imperial Style sometimes, but it's not like Dark Lord.
00:08:19
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I got that a little bit in the aroma when I said like when I said I swirl it around and like you get that like it opened up a little more like me was a little boozy and there's like something else there and I hate saying soy sauce because I feel I don't mean in a bad way no I know I know it's just like a but there is like a there is that I mean in a bad way I'm talking about Dark Lord absolutely I have had
00:08:40
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Dark Lord where I was like that's fucking soy sauce like it's not good, but that also comes in my Just certainly also comes with like certain barrel aged beers where you do kind of get that it's an imperial stout thing Sorry, I'm pretty stuff but also like a barely aged imperial stout too I feel like you get that a lot more and I'm not sure what does it I should probably look into it and I think like has to be aging and maybe malts and shit like that, but this is
00:09:08
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This is very good. I'm trying to think I was like staring at it for I was like trying to like not looking out in gremlins Well, no, I was thinking about like I'm getting like still like that chocolate and a little bit oxidation But I was trying to think okay am I getting the pecan because I feel like I'm getting like a little
00:09:26
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There's a slight nuttiness that I'm getting. This is where if we still were recording in different ways, you would drop in. It's a bit nutty. Yes. But we don't have that. We don't have a sound board. But it is like a weird umami, but I can't tell if that's like the soy sauce or like. That's what I think that might be. Yeah. I think that's what it might be. But no. It's very good. I dig it. I like it. Man, hats off to rabid.
00:09:52
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is we're getting closer to episode 100, and they were supposed to be guest number one, and they were on episode 50, so this seemed very appropriate. That's how it's easy to know what guest they were. Go by, yeah. They were on the 50th episode. If you said that, then for sure. And I do hope, I hope to see them at Phobab.
00:10:10
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Are they out there? I don't know. I didn't look at the list. But if they are. By the time this comes out, well, this might be the day after. This might be the day after. It's the list out there? This might be the Monday after FOBAB. Who's there? Yes, there is that.
00:10:26
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Yeah, there's there's there's a lot of it's it's it seems very fitting actually now. They will be there very fitting good Here we are drinking a barely aged beer because I am almost positive this at this after the final pour is the Monday after Phobeb, so very fitting. It's a good way to bring in November. You know what I mean like yeah, I
00:10:45
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Bill H. Pierce. Alda Stout's coming down the line. Who's that? Who's that speaking in the back? Clark, it's me. Oh. You were just doing an accent. Yeah, I was just doing a silly accent. I thought maybe it was like, there was a guess. No, no, no, no, no, no. Nobody's coming. You know, everybody's like, hey. Please don't put us down that hole. No, really. No, that was just me. I was like, hey. There's nobody in the green room. We sure there's nobody in the green room. Definitely everyone's gone. They don't come here for after the final pour. They want to be on the main show. I mean, if I was walking down the street,
00:11:15
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and I saw the podcast studios. I don't wanna hop on in.
00:11:19
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Okay, well, how about it? What do you have to say? I was just thinking about something real quick. I knew Dan was going to go right past the camera. What's up? Yeah, no, I was just thinking about how... You missed PhoBab? Sorry. No, yeah, that too. Gremlins is awesome.
Exploring Barrel-aged Beer Culture in Chicago
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This dog is just attacking this whole moment. So we talked about with the Oktoberfest and then with the pumpkin beer. So like we talked about this like shelf competition where people come out earlier and earlier. But I don't feel like... Yeah, we had summer Krampus come out, but Chicago breweries don't like...
00:11:49
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jumped a gun on their barrel aged beers. Like everyone still kind of does it around the same time. When did the first August, I thought it was July, July, July revolution. Yeah. Well, rap is always kind of, I mean, not I say, I shouldn't say always, but like within the last like two years, years, they're like, there's a very small break, three at a time. There's, there is
00:12:10
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It's a year-round thing. Bare-leged beers are a year-round thing in the Chicago area. Like... Something always... Microphone, Whiskey Hill. Nobody's jumping like the Krampus ahead. No, no, the big releases, they happen like Temperance. Like the Deep Woods series, while it did start this year, back in, technically in July with Thundertaker.
00:12:35
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I feel like it's been three years now that they've been spreading it out. Well, I mean, it's been for strawberry. It's opening up more and more stuff, too. Yeah, and there's like that wooden wings. What was that, like May or June or something? Well, and then with the microphone collaboration. Yeah, they did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. That's not VA, was it? Well, they had their project that was. And you tried that at beer and a glass, too. You might be. I don't know. Was that bear leach? Was the? I know the original two weren't. Like the strawberry one. Wait, that's the strawberry one is. You're thinking of phase three. Oh, phase three. Sorry.
00:13:04
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the microphone was that was that the collaboration was that barely the double side up you should know i didn't try that's your fucking like how did you not get those beers with guys i don't chase beers anymore but it's literally side a and side b and you've got a whole
00:13:21
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Social media. Yeah, that was age. Yep. They were aged. You guys, I'm. Maple syrup. I'm degrading Dan right now. With maple syrup. I used to shut. Keep it up. Keep going. In 10 year buffalo trace barrels. You should have had that. Only 10 year. I'm just kidding. So pedestrian. Should have been like 12 years.
00:13:40
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Yeah, I feel like, but there is a season though for barrel aged beers. I feel like it starts October, November, December, even into January. When does Half Acres... Ben Thicke. Thank you. It's always like December too. Yeah, but what I was going to say is Goose made a thing this year that they were experimenting with
00:14:04
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the base of Bourbon County. And that's where all these other adjuncts have come off. Like the old ROM, like the Apple, the, I forget what it's called, but there was a couple of, I think I've got them all somewhere. But they keep trying to play with the base of Bourbon County in different types of barrels. They did the ROM and stuff like that. So I like they're doing it year round. And I know other places are too.
00:14:28
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You know, like Clint, Clint's got stuff that comes out, whether it's Gin Barrel or something else, like he's always got something coming out. There's a lot of, there is a season for it though, but yeah, in Chicago, I don't know how it is in other cities, if anybody wants to let us know how it is in your city. Definitely in Chicago, we are kind of like,
00:14:51
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Spoiled. Thank you. Spoiled with how much, especially with hazy IPAs and barrel age deaths. The problem is a lot of the sought after ones come out right at the same time. Sure. The other thing that we're blessed with. Which is good for us, bad for your wallets, is what I'm thinking. Yeah, bad for your bank. There are some really good loggers in Chicago and the Illinois area now.
00:15:12
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I like loggers now, you guys. Do you know that? No. Come to the logger lounge. Hey, I'm looking forward to that. We did that. Remember we did that at Phobe? I went to the logger lounge. Just so great. So much fun. That was fun with all the neon lights. Clark, if you're not there, we're going to edit you out. Yeah. Of the entire year. You're editing out the entire year. Oh, yeah, that's fine. That's fine. So you better make time, baby. Dan, you want us to FaceTime me over there? I don't know what I'll be doing that day. I'll probably be with family. I'm so busy. I'll be on a beach.
00:15:41
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I have to talk to mommy. Mommy's there. Auntie Dragoo. I'm sorry, what? What was that last thing you said? Auntie Dragoo. Oh. What does she sound like? Oh, my Danny boys. So good to see you.
00:15:57
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That is like spot on. So spot on. That's what he's about to say. Ironic. Have you met her? Or was that a guess? I could just tell by knowing Dan. By knowing Dan. By knowing Dan. It's like clear. The real Mothin' Garden. Dan, if you actually have an ant like that, you have to record her voice. I don't. Dan will probably be at Green Bench or some other Florida brewery drinking some good beers. You gotta go up to Dunedin.
00:16:23
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Now he's in brewing? Yeah, good. That's a cool brewing. I haven't been there before, so maybe I'll put that on the list. But it's always, when I go down there, it's always green bench first and then whatever else I can fit in later.
00:16:35
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Like whatever random liquor store you go to and grab some natty ice. Yeah. Do they have Milwaukee's best down there? I have no clue. Find out. Alright guys, this has been a lot of fun. Brandon, that was a good mystery beer for us. That was a lot of fun for an after the final four. Yeah, that was good. Enjoyed that. Test the old chops. Yeah, I think we succeeded.
00:16:55
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Yeah, I didn't say Cezanne. I did not say Cezanne. This tastes funny. Tony and I did it. And we're geniuses. Barrel-age, roasty Cezanne. Clearly. That's what we should have said right away, Clark. What is Dan's ant sound like again? Oh, hello. It sounds like the Wicked Witch of the West. That's what I thought. That's your ant. It's not mine. Sorry I have an evil ant. Clark, good to see you, buddy. You too, guys.
Conclusion and Social Media Reminders
00:17:24
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Tony, you especially. Thanks, man. How's your knee, by the way? Doing great, doing great. Boy, if you guys don't want to miss that Michigan episode. Dan, I hope you had a good time in Florida. I am still there. Maybe not, I don't know.
00:17:40
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Every time when this episode comes out. Dan, I hope you're having a fun time in Florida. I got a nice suntan. Thanks. It's me, Dan. I'll just say thanks. Thanks. Weird. There was two Dan's for a second there. Brandon, did you have fun at Phobab? Best time ever.
00:17:56
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Man, what if you got sick and you didn't go and now this is a lie? Like last year? I backed out too. Love you, buddy. Love you too, man. Bye, everybody. Keep listening to our show and go buy some shirts so we can get a sound board. And when we have a sound board, then we can put in sound effects for episodes like this. It'll be a lot of fun. We can get Clark a new mic. Bye. Love you. Bye.
00:18:19
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This has been The Malting Hour. Be sure to follow us on all social media by searching The Malting Hour and at themaltinghour.com. You can also follow us individually on social media. Brandi can be found on Instagram as bmdub81, on Twitter, bdub81, and on Untapped as bdubdrinksbeer. Tony can be found on Instagram and Untapped under Ace of Hope Chicago. On Twitter, The Ace of Hope Chicago. Clark can be found as Clarkowski on all three.
00:18:47
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