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Nier We Go Again (Nier: Automata - Long Story Short Part 2)
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Introduction and Weekend Mishap
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Just his hand does things.
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Of course.
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Obviously.
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It does things.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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You know what else is come on?
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Oh, I don't know if I want the answer to that question, but I'll bite.
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What's that?
Book Chapter Exploration
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Hey there, everybody.
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Welcome back to Pixlet.
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My name is Kevin.
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With me, as always, is Phil on today's show.
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We're continuing on the adventure that is near automata.
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Automata.
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Automata.
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Automata.
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Long story short.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to start first right off the bat by saying that a three-day weekend screwed me up.
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Yeah.
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We're recording.
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Yeah.
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We're recording and Phil didn't read the book.
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No.
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I was operating under the assumption that today is Sunday.
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Today is Monday.
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I told Kevin, I was like, I could do it if it's all right that I haven't read it.
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I was going to read it tonight.
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So...
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It's not like it could get more confusing.
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It actually could get more confusing because there's actually some twists in this portion of the book.
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Oh, well.
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I'll try to guide you through.
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It'll be a guided meditation.
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If there's anyone I trust to do that, it would be you, Kevin.
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You are the stand-in for the audience.
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And also-
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I mean, it's good because this is probably going to be the shortest chunk relative to the first and last.
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The problem is the chapters eight, nine to ten.
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Chapter eight is like a big honking chapter.
Humor and Misquotations
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So if we had included chapter eight on this part, then the next episode would be really short because nine and ten only represent like 15 percent of the book.
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So we got to do what we got to do.
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We got to do what we got to do.
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How are you today, Stephen, Philip?
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Whoa.
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Oh, put up.
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Put out my Christian name.
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Holy Christian name.
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Christian name.
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I'm good.
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I'm good.
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Well, I mean, you got to get those Christian names out there because we haven't.
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We haven't.
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By God, Christian president now.
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Oh, God, I've never.
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It's been a long time since we've had a more zealous president.
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Yeah.
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Just an absolute firebrand, you know, you know.
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I can't even, I can't.
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You can't keep it.
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I can't even keep up a head of steam on this one.
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I'm trying.
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Can't even do it.
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I can't even do it.
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You can't even ask that man to quote a single pat.
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You could say, quote the shortest thing.
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You could give him Jesus wept and he'll be like-
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Jesus, it was tremendous.
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And then he wept because of how tremendous it was.
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No, he would not be able to.
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He is the definition of a more is more kind of a guy, isn't he?
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More is more.
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Yeah.
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No, he would say that the book of Revelations was his favorite.
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And I would be like, ha ha, you bastard.
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It's only, it's singular.
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It's singular.
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I caught you.
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What was the thing you did?
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Corinthians two or something like that, as opposed to second Corinthians.
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Yeah.
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Something like that.
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It was like Corinthians part two, uh, electric boogaloo, the Corinthians strike back.
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Jesus wept.
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And, uh, but, but he's a great guy.
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Otherwise he's not a crier.
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Not normally.
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We're going to forgive him for that one.
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He's a weeper.
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It's all right.
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He's a weeper.
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Not like me.
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You know, I'm not a weeper.
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I don't weep.
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I don't weep.
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I don't weep.
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Let's put the body in the marsh.
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Oh, thank God.
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Yes, please.
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When I tell you to dump a body in the marsh, you dump them.
Nier Automata: Story and Battles
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All right, we're picking it up with Chapter 5, subtitle 2B's Story Slash Confrontation.
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So when we last left off, they had just fought against a gigantic...
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a gigantic... Wait, wait.
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Okay, yes, yes, yes.
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They had fought against a giant thing and is like a monster out in the ocean and 2B had to go back to get a black box scanner from Davola and Popola
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in order to find 9S because 9S got blown way off course.
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So she finds out that 9S had landed back in the crater from earlier where the alien ship was, according to his black box signal.
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But when 2B gets down there, she can't find him.
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She follows the signal down.
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She goes through another path to an elevator and her pod starts warning her, like, no, don't do it.
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Don't go down there.
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She's like, shut the fuck up.
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And she goes into the elevator and goes down and she finds a gigantic machine city that has been carved out underneath the earth.
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She picks up the signal again and she just sprints towards it and notices that there are other Android bodies just piled around.
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As she continues through, she gets to the town square and she meets up with Adam, who is like, welcome to my city.
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Eve isn't there, though.
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Eve is not there because as we last saw, Adam was heading out on his own to figure out what death is.
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Adam starts monologuing, though, when he says that after studying human history, the essence of humanity is battle, to fight, to steal, to kill each other.
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And to that, I say, boo.
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Way of the blade.
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You were...
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No, I'm so like, I get it.
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But also I fucking hate this like sci-fi bullshit where it's like, oh, humans and war.
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They're so intertangled.
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It's like, it's like, come on, guys.
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Let's we we look on more critically at the idea of like capital and class rather than just saying humans are intrinsically.
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We just got to fight amongst ourselves.
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Warlike.
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And that is the essence of humanity is to fight and murder.
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And I'm like, come on.
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That's the essence of a few people who looked at something and said, I want that.
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That's something else.
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Someone else has.
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It's yeah.
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I'm going to send a bunch of people to die for it.
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It's it's I hate it.
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It's annoying.
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Anyway, he says he talks about that bullshit a lot.
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And he also mentions that he has detached himself from the machine network and therefore he can die.
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And he wants him and to be to kill each other.
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Um, 2B refuses to fight Adam because she wants to find 9S.
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Uh, and he is, she's like, you're just in the way you're just wasting my time.
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And Adam's like, Adam like knocks down part of a wall to crumble, to reveal that he has 9S and he has crucified 9S up on a cross in order to goad her into fighting.
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Um, this is what you miss when you, when you don't read the book, Phil.
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Jesus.
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Yeah, I know.
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I, I,
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My FOMO is just tapping out in my brain.
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As she attacks him, he mentions to her deep down that she knows the truth.
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She knows the truth about humans, that they're already extinct.
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And while she's fighting him, her pod keeps talking to her as well, telling her things.
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And like, no, don't listen to him.
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Ignore him.
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Ignore him.
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And she's like, just shut up.
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And she actually, she ends up killing Adam.
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And Adam, as he's dying, he's like laughing.
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He was like, I finally get to know what death is about.
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And then he's like,
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Oh, this sucks.
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And then he dies.
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Yeah.
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Like he realizes that it's, it's, it's, it's not great.
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It's like, you're not missing out on anything.
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He just, he just fucking dies.
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It's the ultimate problem of like, that's such a young artist thing.
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You hear about like young artists.
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They worship people like Hunter, you know, Thompson and Charles Bukowski.
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And they're like, excess is the way I can, I'll do a lot of drugs and a lot of alcohol.
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And they, and like two or three years into that, they're like, Oh, I'm not,
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having a good time so much.
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This isn't, uh, no, maybe not for me.
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Do not emulate Hunter S Thompson or Charles Bukowski.
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Like you can read their work, but there's not a single thing you should do.
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That is like them.
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Uh, there's yeah.
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That they produced.
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Who was it?
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Uh, I'm, I forgot somebody was, was talking about the facts that, um, like that they made good work.
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While they were suffering, they didn't make good work because they were suffering.
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Right, right.
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And I think that's something that a lot of people misunderstand, the suffering artists, that you need to be like them in order to make work like them.
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I would, if Hunter or more specifically Bukowski was not a dragged out alcoholic who looked like he lived 15 lives in one lifetime, I'm sure he still would have been able
Doctor Who and Van Gogh Discussion
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to write a damn good book.
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But he...
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He probably created less than he could have.
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Exactly.
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And he created a lot.
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And no, but that's the thing.
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You're absolutely right.
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And it's it's there's that it's a myth.
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It's an absolute myth because these people Van Gogh, you know, like these people are miserable.
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These people are hurting and you can glean something from that.
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You can learn a hell of a lot from from something like that.
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But but it's not meant.
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But emulating it just because that's what they did.
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It's like, it's like, well, Bukowski went and ran with the bulls.
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Not Bukowski.
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Hemingway ran with the bulls.
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I got to run with the bulls.
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I got to run with the bulls.
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Do you hear what you're saying?
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That's pretty stupid.
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How about you go do your own thing?
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You know?
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah, they would have.
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It's sort of like, did you ever see that Doctor Who episode?
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No, I'm just going to say right off the bat.
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No.
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Okay, so they're in.
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They're back in time and they end up meeting Van Gogh.
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Oh, actually, I have seen that ending.
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I have seen that.
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I saw a clip.
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And, you know, he is he's basically everything you expect.
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You know, he has he has the the
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severe depression, all the, all, uh, all these things.
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And they bring him, they're like, well, maybe we could, we can help him.
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And they bring him forward to the future, to an exhibit of his paintings and seeing how all of his work,
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touches everyone and it's just this amazing moment of van Gogh breaking down in the middle of this museum like tears in his eyes weeping as he sees the fruits of his work touching everybody in such a amazing way and then they find out he still ends up
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dying young.
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He killed himself, right?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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He still ends up killing himself.
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And it's like, they didn't, even bringing him to the future to show how impactful his work was doesn't actually change it because it doesn't magically solve the fact that he suffered from these issues.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't change the fact that he's, he's that on some level he's broken, that it's, that it's, it's, and I don't, and I don't mean to imply that suffering from depression makes you or anxiety or anything.
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Well, no, it is, is, you know, you're broken.
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That's maybe that's a poor choice of words.
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But that I can tell you with my own issues with depression, anxiety, that's how I felt.
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On many occasions, like something something isn't clicking right, you know?
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And so, yeah, it's it's just it's just it's a bad theory.
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It's a bad theory that you've got to you got to do the heroin to be like Kurt.
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You got to do the acid to be like Hunter.
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It's I would be way more impressed if I read something that was just spellbinding and blew my mind apart.
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And I met them and they were like clean cut and very boring.
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Like, I mean, shit, like, to be honest, that's a guy like Brandon Sanderson.
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Oh, sure.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, sure.
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He's Mormon, I believe.
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Yeah.
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Doesn't drink, you know, and I don't know the man.
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I don't know if he has his own, like, issues or whatever, but, and the bulk of Stephen King's work is after he became sober.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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A lot of really, really good shit, too.
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Yeah.
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It's like it's not just, you know,
Myth of the Suffering Artist
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it's not like, you know, like 90 percent of everything he did is beyond is after he became sober.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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It's it's the vast majority of that because the man writes 15 novels a year and about a thousand short stories.
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Yeah.
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What a prolific man.
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I'm having trouble finishing a novella right now, so I don't even, I got nothing.
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Well, I think the thing about him is he got to the point where he was a professional writer and then
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And if any of you are wondering how he does it, he is a professional writer in that he treats it like an office job.
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He goes to his home office and he sits and he writes for eight hours.
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That's really what you got to do.
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That's really how it works.
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There is no muse to hit him.
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No, whatever teacher told you, I think I feel like all teachers say this at some point or another, and they're all right.
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And it's that artistic expression is 90 percent, 98 percent perspiration.
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Yeah.
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And two percent inspiration.
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It's corny.
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It's hackneyed.
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It sounds like exactly something your favorite English teacher in high school would say.
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And it's completely correct.
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Yeah.
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I mean, one of, I wouldn't say he's my favorite author, but I would say I love his work is Cormac McCarthy.
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And he even fell into it by, or maybe that was just his book.
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way he fell into it because he would wanted to abuse basically uh take advantage of a teenager well yeah sure that did that did happen that did happen uh i mean i love his work but there's no denying that he uh he decided to say well she's my inspiration you know yeah like god damn it cormac
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I think our generation is the generation that will struggle the most with the death of the author.
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Right.
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We are really grappling with that one.
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Sure.
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You know, between Cormac McCarthy and Neil Gaiman and all these other people.
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And there are a lot of people and rowling and all that shit.
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Yeah.
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There are plenty of people out there who are like, okay, how much of this can I actually consume and not be a hypocritical asshole?
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Yeah.
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And I think in my mind, it's like consume.
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what you want for the most part.
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Just with the understanding, I mean, I've occasionally, I have my audible of the complete works of Lovecraft, you know, that I go back to from time to time.
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It's a big old file.
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It's, you know.
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Yeah, that thing's like 56 hours long.
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56 hours to sit there and listen through the whole thing.
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Oh, yeah.
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Which includes novels within it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, what were you saying?
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Don't have heroes, kids.
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Don't have heroes, kids.
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Don't have heroes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Don't do the thing where you make the good authors list.
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Talk about the books you like.
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Don't talk about the ones you hate or talk about the ones you hate in an illustrative way.
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I don't care, but don't like idolize people, uh, for the sake of, of hanging your entire personality on their works.
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Bingo.
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Bingo.
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Yeah.
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Because, uh,
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Uh, yeah, don't do it.
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Um, just don't do it.
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It's, it's, it's, it's, trust us.
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It's going to be easier that way.
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It's going to be easier in the long run.
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In the long run.
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Um, Neil Gaiman didn't save you.
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You saved you.
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Uh, and I think everybody would agree with that.
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Uh, and Stephen King, if you told him that his, your, your, his work saved you, he'd probably shoot you a really weird look.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I bet he'd say something real nice, but he'd probably go, oh, boy, that poor guy.
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Stephen, I don't know what's going to happen when he dies.
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I just.
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I'm going to.
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Well, I'll tell you what's going to happen in the old Keeling household.
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There's going to be one sad, drunk man in the corner for a day or two.
00:18:18
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Reading skeleton crew over and over again until my bladder gives out and I just weep and wail in a pile of my own urine.
00:18:26
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Did you see that the monkey is coming out?
00:18:28
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Yes.
00:18:29
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I, I, I had mixed feelings about long legs.
00:18:34
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I really enjoyed it.
00:18:35
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But the same time, there was, we've talked about this on the show.
00:18:37
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Sure.
00:18:38
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But I do.
00:18:40
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That was, I love that story first and foremost.
00:18:42
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And I do think this is the right thing.
00:18:45
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director to adapt this.
00:18:47
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That's it looks insane.
00:18:50
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And what's his name?
00:18:52
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Uh, Perkins, uh, Anthony Perkins, this kid, uh, uh, uh, Osgood Perkins.
00:18:58
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Osgood Perkins.
00:18:59
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I was like, it's not Oswald.
00:19:04
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I didn't know that was Anthony Perkins' kid.
00:19:07
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It's Anthony Perkins' kid.
00:19:09
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Yeah.
00:19:10
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Osgood Perkins, the son of Anthony Perkins.
00:19:15
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Oh, that's really cool.
00:19:16
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Yeah.
00:19:17
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Fine tradition in that family.
00:19:19
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Yeah.
00:19:21
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Yeah.
00:19:23
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I guess I didn't realize Anthony Perkins has been dead for a long time.
00:19:27
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How long?
00:19:29
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I mean, he died in 1992.
00:19:30
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I didn't know that.
00:19:31
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Yeah.
00:19:34
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Yeah.
Nier Automata: Eve's Reaction
00:19:36
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Anyway, where were we?
00:19:37
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Anyway.
00:19:39
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She kills Adam, which he finds, he finds death anticlimactic.
00:19:45
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And then he dies.
00:19:47
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Tubi then rescues 9S and brings him home.
00:19:50
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And then we get a short, another side chapter of Eve.
00:19:55
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And it's about Eve finding Adam's body and deciding to just end the world.
00:20:00
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Yeah.
00:20:02
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Chapter six, 2B's story slash reunion.
00:20:06
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While 9S recuperates, 2B does some research and talks to Pascal and she begins to have a change of heart about the machines.
00:20:15
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And she thinks of on Adam's words that at one point he says, like, the machines and androids were kindred.
00:20:23
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You know, we're more the same than we are different.
00:20:26
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Mm-hmm.
00:20:29
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Just then she gets a message, possibly from an anemone, but they're static.
00:20:34
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So she goes to investigate.
00:20:36
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There's a bunch of machines in the city ruins that are blocking her from getting to the resistance camp.
00:20:41
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And when she gets the camp, she sees the androids there are under attack and being violently attacked.
00:20:47
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eaten by the machines.
00:20:50
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The machines are like eating them like zombie style.
00:20:55
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2B helps an enemy, anemone evacuate the survivors, but is stopped by a giant spider like machine.
00:21:02
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Just then 9S arrives to help her by flying his flight suit down and jumping out of it.
00:21:10
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And the flight suit hits like crashes into the spider machine.
00:21:16
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So to be in nine S reunite, Eve arrives and he is pissed.
00:21:22
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He calls to the walking machines who start eating the remains of the spider machine and fusing with him to turn into a giant sphere that begins to spin and destroy everything.
00:21:34
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She then gets a call from Pascal that there's something happening at the village.
00:21:38
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They get to Pascal's village where he says any machines that were still connected to the network have begun to rampage.
00:21:45
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They put together that Eve is now in control of the network now that Adam was dead and is causing the machines to basically lose their mind and they need to stop Eve.
00:21:57
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As they approach this direction where Eve is, suddenly all the machines that are in the way shriek in pain and die.
00:22:06
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And they get to Eve and he's basically just like killed all the machines around him.
00:22:11
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And he gets to he's very upset about his brother being killed.
00:22:15
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He uses iron and rubble around him to create an armor onto his body and begins fighting to be.
00:22:23
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2B is doing a lot of damage, but then but because Eve is on the network, he is pulling energy from the machines and just heals himself every time 2B does an attack.
00:22:34
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2B and 9S plan for 9S to try to hack him and take him off the network to cut off his healing capability.
00:22:42
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Um, her, uh, her pod though, keeps telling him, telling her to just leave and to leave nine S behind.
00:22:50
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Um, strangely enough, nine S hacks Eve and is able to fight him a bit using Eve's own weapons while to be attacks Eve's body.
00:23:00
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Uh, Eve is defeated and to be takes his head off with one final swing, ending the conflict.
00:23:05
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Nine S though, isn't so lucky having been in the network to hack Eve.
00:23:10
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He has a logic board infection.
00:23:12
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We finally get some backstory about 2B and 9S's relationship.
00:23:17
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They've known each other for a very long time.
00:23:20
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2B is not an actual B model.
00:23:22
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She is an E model.
00:23:24
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The E standing for executioner.
00:23:27
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9S is the best scanner on the Yorha group and...
00:23:32
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would inevitably find out compromising information about command and 2B would be ordered by command to kill him and reset his memory to before they met.
00:23:43
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And she has done this over and over and over and over.
00:23:50
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And this time it's different though, because she wasn't being ordered to kill him, but had to because of the logic virus.
00:23:58
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And she would tell herself,
00:24:02
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It's never like, I only killed 9S once each time after that was a copy.
00:24:08
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And then she's like, no, every time I do this, I'm actually killing him.
00:24:14
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And so she kills him and she gets really angry at a nearby machine that's standing there with glowing blue eyes.
00:24:22
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And then the machine talks to her and tells her to hold on because it's actually 9S who had copied himself over into a machine.
00:24:31
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while he was hacking Eve.
00:24:34
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And then 9S just starts rambling about how fascinating it is that he was able to move his data over into this machine.
00:24:43
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And then 2B hops on his back because he's in a larger machine and they start going back towards a pickup point.
00:24:53
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And we get a summary scene from pods 153 and 42 talking to each other about how 9S had discovered the incriminating Yorha information, but no execution order had come down this time and that the final sequence was in play.
00:25:09
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Chapter 7, 9S's story, Casualty.
9S's Revelation in Nier Automata
00:25:14
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The commander confirms to 9S that humans don't in fact exist and in fact had stopped existing prior to the aliens even invading Earth.
00:25:24
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The Yorha project had created the idea of a human board to give androids a god to fight for.
00:25:31
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The commander then gave 9S all the relevant data and told him to do with it what he will.
00:25:38
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9S couldn't muster up the courage to tell 2B because he didn't want her to be flustered, and Command had just ordered all the Yorha troopers to be mustered and mobilized to head down to the planet to make a final attack on wiping out the machines.
00:25:54
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They get down there and 9S is annoyed with how 21O, his operator, is treating him like a child.
00:26:02
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And then he gets a call from 11S telling him that he needs to start syncing his data again back up because the other S models won't be able to update.
00:26:14
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9S hadn't turned it back on since finding out the secret.
00:26:17
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He reunites with 2B, and while they're fighting the machines, the machines launch some sort of EMP attack, causing 2B to double over in pain.
00:26:27
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9S destroys the machines, is unaffected, and destroys the machine that's generating the EMP sound and then protects 2B while she has to reboot.
00:26:38
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During that time, the machines hit the androids with a virus, causing them to fall to the ground.
00:26:43
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It doesn't affect 9S, who then applies the vaccine to 2B.
00:26:48
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While 2B recovers, the virus makes all the infected androids begin to attack 9S and 2B.
00:26:54
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2B is unable to fight back because Yorha androids are equipped with programming that stops them from friendly fire.
00:27:01
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9S needs to fry 2B's identity circuit so that she can fight back against the other Yorha soldiers and they get to cover.
00:27:11
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Then 2B takes out a Yorha squad while 9S tracks down the machine that is blocking them from being able to talk to command.
00:27:19
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They destroy the signal jamming machine, only to be told that they still can't connect to command because there was no one at the other end in the bunker accepting the signal, meaning something was wrong at the bunker.
00:27:31
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As Yorha troopers attack them, they decide to upload their data through a backdoor in the bunker that 9S knows about.
00:27:39
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So they do what they did at the beginning of the story.
00:27:43
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They take their black boxes and touch them together to cause a detonation.
00:27:47
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And basically it wipes them out and everybody else.
00:27:50
Speaker
And they wake back up in the bunker in the units that they have up there.
00:27:56
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They run to the control room where all the feeds seem doctored.
00:27:59
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The commander's looking at the feeds and they're all seems like she has no idea what's going on.
00:28:05
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the commander, they try to tell the commander what's going on.
00:28:07
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And she's like, yeah, but you're the guys you left.
00:28:10
Speaker
You, you ran away.
00:28:13
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So you were under arrest.
00:28:14
Speaker
So the commander puts to be a nine S under arrest because she thinks they're being sus.
00:28:19
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But then it comes out.
00:28:20
Speaker
All the operators on the bunker have been exposed to the virus too.
00:28:26
Speaker
And they all begin talking to nine S and to be about how they're talking to that.
00:28:31
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to them through the virus and the network.
00:28:34
Speaker
And all the operators now have these red glowing eyes.
00:28:39
Speaker
So they grab the commander and they try to save her, but she realizes that she's infected with the virus, too.
00:28:44
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And as her last act as the commander, having any sort of sort of lucid thoughts, she pushes to be a nine S in the hangar to take flight units down to the planet.
00:28:55
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And as they launch out of the the docking bay with the flight units, the bunker is destroyed.
00:29:03
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And as they fly down, and basically they're the last two surviving Yorha androids now.
2B's Death in Nier Automata
00:29:12
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As they get down to the planet, they're attacked by other Yorha flight units.
00:29:16
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2B uses herself as a decoy to pull them away, and then she overrides 9S's flight unit controls and forces 9S to land while she acts as a decoy and runs off so that he's safe and she disappears from sight.
00:29:33
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At the end of chapter eight, we get another side, a two.
00:29:39
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A2 is fighting a bunch of infected Yorha troops when 2B comes upon her.
00:29:45
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2B has been infected and asks A2 to kill her and take her sword because it has her memories in it.
00:29:51
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A2 obliges and just then the ground collapses as a white object shoots from underground and pierces the sky.
00:29:59
Speaker
A2, 2B's dead body, and 9S who had just sprung from the shadows fall into the hole.
00:30:08
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So a lot of stuff happened in that section.
00:30:11
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Yeah, Jesus Christ.
00:30:14
Speaker
2B is dead.
00:30:14
Speaker
Good job, Phil.
00:30:18
Speaker
The main character is dead at this point.
00:30:23
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All hail the main character.
00:30:25
Speaker
All hail the main character.
00:30:26
Speaker
Well, so basically at the end, she's telling A2.
00:30:30
Speaker
So A2 is the original version of 2B's model, right?
00:30:35
Speaker
She's the prototype.
00:30:38
Speaker
And she's, and 2B is like, hey, like, kill me.
00:30:43
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I'm not going to be myself for much longer.
00:30:45
Speaker
All of my memories are stored in this sword.
00:30:48
Speaker
So like she uploaded herself to the sword before she's- Oh, right, right.
00:30:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:54
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:54
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:56
Speaker
But 9S doesn't actually see it like that because 9S in the last moment is like trying to attack A2 before the ground collapsed from underneath them.
00:31:07
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Um, yeah, that sort of thing kind of anytime that comes up, uh, and that does a lot with this kind of story, I can't help but think of Soma.
00:31:19
Speaker
Uh, and, and, and, you know, any of you who play, if you know, you know, uh, it, that ending, I wonder, uh, how much of that would be in play in this world, you know, like in terms of, you know, uh,
00:31:32
Speaker
it's you, but it's not you or whatever.
00:31:36
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:37
Speaker
I always think about that kind of thing.
00:31:38
Speaker
It's like it's a coin flip as to whether you, in terms of your consciousness, is the one that is going to be on the other side.
00:31:46
Speaker
Because I believe in Soma,
00:31:49
Speaker
You do also see the one, like you see both, right?
00:31:54
Speaker
Like you see the one that's left behind.
00:31:55
Speaker
That's like the main one.
00:31:56
Speaker
But then you do jump to the point of view of the other version of you that is saved basically.
00:32:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:05
Speaker
You do get that moment, which a little more depressing than anything else, but cool.
00:32:09
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:10
Speaker
Well, it's like also if you had seen Altered Carbon, which also was a book series, basically Altered Carbon presupposes is there's a like a there's like a.
00:32:27
Speaker
device that is invented that instead of just like memories, it's your actual consciousness that they're able to store.
00:32:36
Speaker
They figure out the math behind someone's consciousness and you get a little chip that's in the back of your spine, right?
00:32:43
Speaker
Under the, behind the base of your head.
00:32:45
Speaker
So when you die, you can be re-sleeved.
00:32:49
Speaker
So they take the chip thing out.
00:32:50
Speaker
That's a good, that's a good term.
00:32:53
Speaker
They put you into a new sleeve, a new body, and you carry on, right?
00:32:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:00
Speaker
So it's kind of like that.
00:33:02
Speaker
And there's like these laws against people being duplicated.
00:33:07
Speaker
So like because it's data, so kind of, you can duplicate somebody's consciousness.
00:33:12
Speaker
So there's these guys in the first season that are quote unquote,
00:33:16
Speaker
the so-and-so brothers.
00:33:18
Speaker
I forget their name, but if they're not brothers, it's one consciousness that has been duplicated and put into two sleeves.
00:33:26
Speaker
But they treat each other like brothers, even though it's actually the same person in two different bodies.
00:33:32
Speaker
Right.
00:33:34
Speaker
That's clever.
00:33:34
Speaker
That's really interesting.
00:33:36
Speaker
That's really interesting.
00:33:39
Speaker
So yeah, I think about that kind of stuff.
00:33:42
Speaker
And then there was also the game.
00:33:45
Speaker
It was on my, did I put it on my game of the year list last year?
00:33:53
Speaker
I think I might've, I can't remember if I mentioned it in the episode though.
00:34:01
Speaker
Where is my list collections?
00:34:05
Speaker
Goaty list 2024.
00:34:07
Speaker
Oh, not installed.
00:34:11
Speaker
There we go.
00:34:13
Speaker
Nobody wants to die.
00:34:15
Speaker
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:16
Speaker
That's that was an interesting.
00:34:20
Speaker
I really wanted to try that one out.
00:34:22
Speaker
I never got to that one.
00:34:23
Speaker
Yeah, it's an interesting little game.
00:34:27
Speaker
It's a mystery game, but also has the same kind of idea of altered carbon where you can...
00:34:34
Speaker
move a person from one body to another.
00:34:38
Speaker
But there's also a tax that you have to pay.
00:34:40
Speaker
And if you don't pay it, then your consciousness can just be put into storage.
00:34:49
Speaker
So it's just like, there's just like storage banks where they like.
00:34:54
Speaker
Filled with people.
00:34:56
Speaker
Just filled with people where they just put you and you're just there forever.
00:35:00
Speaker
That's crazy.
00:35:01
Speaker
Like until somebody can pay off your debt, but
00:35:04
Speaker
who's going to pay off your debt, you know?
00:35:06
Speaker
Right.
00:35:06
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:06
Speaker
Exactly.
00:35:07
Speaker
Just stuck there.
00:35:08
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:08
Speaker
Oh, that's horrifying.
00:35:09
Speaker
It is.
00:35:11
Speaker
Uh, uh, it's, it's a pretty horrifying premise, but they, uh, they do a really good job with it in that game.
00:35:18
Speaker
Oh, sure.
00:35:18
Speaker
Um,
00:35:20
Speaker
So, yeah.
Inspiration to Play Nier Automata
00:35:22
Speaker
And I would say the book is still pretty choppy in terms of like writing style.
00:35:29
Speaker
And it was weird.
00:35:30
Speaker
There was like some parts where like they instead of writing Eve, they wrote Adam during the fight with Eve.
00:35:38
Speaker
And I was like, is Adam back?
00:35:40
Speaker
And they're like, no, that's actually I think that's literally just a typo.
00:35:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:44
Speaker
Just just putting the wrong name in there.
00:35:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:48
Speaker
Otherwise, you know, it's the story from what's it near Automata.
00:35:55
Speaker
So you're it's what you would.
00:35:58
Speaker
I think it's what you would have been getting if you played the game.
00:36:02
Speaker
Well, I mean, that's the thing.
00:36:04
Speaker
Like hearing all this.
00:36:05
Speaker
I said this last time, but it's actually it is still making me want to play the game.
00:36:11
Speaker
Sure.
00:36:12
Speaker
Interestingly enough, because I'm sure that the game does it in a.
00:36:18
Speaker
you know, maybe a little more of an elegant fashion than this is.
00:36:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:23
Speaker
I mean, I think the game is still relatively on the nose with, you know, stuff.
00:36:29
Speaker
And obviously, Japanese creators just love having a character be crucified.
00:36:35
Speaker
This makes me think of Evangelion.
00:36:40
Speaker
But Evangelion was a lot more overtly, had a lot more Christian,
00:36:48
Speaker
not only theming, but like, uh, like story lore, you know, cause, cause it was, you know, the, the Lance of Longinus and all that stuff.
00:36:57
Speaker
Oh yeah.
00:36:58
Speaker
That, that shit got pretty dense.
00:37:00
Speaker
Uh, yeah.
00:37:01
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:02
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:02
Speaker
A hundred percent.
00:37:03
Speaker
Um, so yeah.
00:37:06
Speaker
Uh, and then, uh, we'll, we'll do part three, uh, next week, but yeah.
00:37:12
Speaker
I'm probably going to end up reading it tonight.
00:37:13
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:14
Speaker
I can stay ahead of it.
00:37:14
Speaker
Just read the whole thing.
00:37:15
Speaker
Just finish the book.
00:37:16
Speaker
Just read it.
00:37:16
Speaker
Just read it.
00:37:18
Speaker
Just finish the book.
00:37:20
Speaker
But Phil, I do have one question for you.
00:37:23
Speaker
Oh, hit me.
Phil's Cyberpunk 2077 Experience
00:37:26
Speaker
What are you playing?
00:37:28
Speaker
Oh, I, I'm actually, I, since I finished up Borderlands, I figured one good back catalog game that I've been meaning to play, you know, for a while deserves another and started playing cyberpunk 2077.
00:37:45
Speaker
Okay.
00:37:45
Speaker
Seeing, seeing as you got it for me for Christmas.
00:37:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:50
Speaker
And oh boy, this is a good one.
00:37:52
Speaker
That's a good game.
00:37:54
Speaker
That's a good damn game.
00:37:55
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:55
Speaker
And now you're playing it.
00:37:56
Speaker
You're playing it after it's been all patched to hell and it's on version 2.0.
00:38:00
Speaker
Right.
00:38:01
Speaker
And that's the thing.
00:38:02
Speaker
And that's exactly it.
00:38:04
Speaker
I was I'm playing this and I'm enjoying the story.
00:38:08
Speaker
I didn't realize how much of a Grand Theft Auto kind of inspired game it was.
00:38:13
Speaker
I think I may have gotten to it a lot sooner if I'd known that.
00:38:16
Speaker
I was just thinking in terms of it being like an open world kind of.
00:38:20
Speaker
No, it's more like it's more Grand Theft Auto open world than anything else.
00:38:25
Speaker
And I think – and they do it really, really well.
00:38:28
Speaker
And it being in a cyberpunk world and them being able to also expand that where it isn't just the city.
00:38:35
Speaker
You've got the nomads out on the cusp of things.
00:38:39
Speaker
And I –
00:38:41
Speaker
I'm really impressed with the world they've created.
00:38:44
Speaker
And, um, clearly a lot of attention and work went into this and what a heartbreak it must've been, uh, when it got shit can so hard, uh, when it was first released.
00:38:55
Speaker
Uh, this is cause it's cause yeah, you're right.
00:38:57
Speaker
I'm playing the fully patched, uh, repaired version.
00:39:00
Speaker
And, and that's probably why people are so pissed.
00:39:03
Speaker
Cause as we have spoken about before, um,
00:39:06
Speaker
We're always harsher on things that have a lot of promise that is just unrealized or clumsy or what have you, because it's like, oh, it was right there.
00:39:17
Speaker
And I'm just really enjoying it.
00:39:19
Speaker
I've been playing.
00:39:21
Speaker
I like the storyline.
00:39:21
Speaker
I like the way it plays.
00:39:23
Speaker
I'm playing a game.
00:39:24
Speaker
I'm playing a intellect sniper.
00:39:28
Speaker
So if I hit people with some some quick quick hack skills and then shoot them in the head, it's quite enjoyable.
00:39:38
Speaker
Great way to play.
00:39:39
Speaker
It's like a future wizard.
00:39:41
Speaker
It's really weird.
00:39:41
Speaker
Yeah, basically.
00:39:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:43
Speaker
Yeah, I'm enjoying that.
00:39:46
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It makes me think, and you and I have both talked about our love for the Genesis version of Shadowrun, and it makes me think of that game in all the right ways.
00:39:55
Speaker
Obviously, this has a lot to thank Shadowrun for.
00:39:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:59
Speaker
And I think, I think, what is it?
00:40:00
Speaker
Cyberpunk 2076 is the tabletop or.
00:40:04
Speaker
Yeah, I think so.
00:40:05
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:05
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:05
Speaker
Or whatever version of the cyberpunk tabletop game is, is that it is at now.
00:40:13
Speaker
Right.
00:40:13
Speaker
Cyberpunk Red or something like that.
00:40:15
Speaker
I think it's Cyberpunk Red.
00:40:16
Speaker
I don't know if those are related or not, but that's the most recent thing I saw.
00:40:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:21
Speaker
Cyberpunk, the cyberpunk tabletop and Shadowrun, they're always going to have some sort of spiritual.
00:40:29
Speaker
They're connected.
00:40:31
Speaker
They're connected.
00:40:32
Speaker
Shadow runs way more D and D and, and with your elves and your dwarves and stuff and cyberpunk is a little more grounded in the, the old school neuromancer shit.
00:40:43
Speaker
Right.
00:40:43
Speaker
And you know, and that's, and that's all great.
00:40:46
Speaker
I'm, Oh, and I'm playing a corpo, which I, which I never do.
00:40:49
Speaker
Like, I was just like, you know what?
00:40:50
Speaker
I, I would normally play.
00:40:51
Speaker
Like I started out as a nomad or something like that.
00:40:54
Speaker
That would be my kind of character.
00:40:56
Speaker
You know what?
00:40:57
Speaker
You'd never play a corpo.
00:40:58
Speaker
Let's play a corpo.
00:40:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:59
Speaker
It's been super fun.
00:41:00
Speaker
I got to the point I've gotten, I'm well in act two at this point, but I did have a moment where I got up and I took a break and I was talking to my wife and I said, and she went, how do you like it?
00:41:14
Speaker
And I said, oh, it's great.
00:41:16
Speaker
They've made me love this guy's best friend and he's doomed.
00:41:20
Speaker
He's fucking doomed.
00:41:21
Speaker
Uh, it's, it's like, like at one point, like we're literally walking through this job and everything is the big score.
00:41:27
Speaker
And at one point he literally goes, well, that's a great bar.
00:41:30
Speaker
I'm going to have to bring my girlfriend back after we're nice and taking care of him.
00:41:33
Speaker
Like, oh, you're a dead man.
00:41:34
Speaker
You're a dead man.
00:41:35
Speaker
You're not walking out of here alive.
00:41:37
Speaker
You're talking about, you're talking about Jackie, right?
00:41:39
Speaker
Jackie.
00:41:40
Speaker
I love Jackie.
00:41:42
Speaker
I love Jackie too.
00:41:44
Speaker
Notice I said past tense.
00:41:45
Speaker
Yes.
00:41:46
Speaker
Yes.
00:41:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:48
Speaker
great character.
00:41:49
Speaker
And when I went to his, uh, his, a friend, uh, and, and met his mother and stuff and she, she gave me his mother and everything.
00:41:54
Speaker
It's well, yeah, I met his mother.
00:41:56
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:56
Speaker
He, he knew him already.
00:41:57
Speaker
Uh, but she gave me his motorcycle and I was just like, it actually had a moment of like, I get his, Oh, thank you.
00:42:04
Speaker
Like it, it does.
00:42:05
Speaker
You get invested in these people.
00:42:07
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:07
Speaker
Um, they do it well.
00:42:09
Speaker
Um,
00:42:09
Speaker
I really like, I really love anytime they give me a chance to sit in the passenger seat and let someone else drive.
00:42:16
Speaker
That was always one of my favorite things about, because Grand Theft Auto V, I remember you could do an auto drive feature and just let it drive you there.
00:42:24
Speaker
And I did that a lot.
00:42:25
Speaker
Because I really enjoyed watching the city go by.
00:42:29
Speaker
And the cyberpunk, it's a beautiful city.
00:42:33
Speaker
It's gorgeous.
00:42:34
Speaker
It's just gorgeous to walk.
00:42:37
Speaker
I remember Harry from Video Games Are Bad, friend of the show, was always talking about how much he liked...
00:42:46
Speaker
They when they finally added a walk button to Cyberpunk so that you could like actually slow down and stroll through Night City.
00:42:55
Speaker
Oh, yeah, it's great.
00:42:57
Speaker
It's it's beautifully done.
00:42:59
Speaker
It's it's familiar enough.
00:43:02
Speaker
that it's exciting to be like, oh shit, I know a place like this.
00:43:07
Speaker
It feels familiar.
00:43:09
Speaker
And it's, you know, different enough that you're excited to see what kind of new ass shit you're going to find around the corner.
00:43:16
Speaker
Keanu Reeves' character, I did not know that this is the way it was going to go with him.
00:43:20
Speaker
I love that it's kind of like a cyberpunk ghost story in a weird way.
00:43:24
Speaker
I love that.
00:43:25
Speaker
Very creative stuff.
00:43:27
Speaker
Really, really solid writing, which I shouldn't be surprised about
00:43:31
Speaker
based on the quality of the novel we read, they clearly give a shit.
00:43:36
Speaker
It's CD Projekt Red.
00:43:38
Speaker
They give a shit about story.
00:43:39
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:43:40
Speaker
The novel was really good.
00:43:42
Speaker
Fucked up.
00:43:43
Speaker
It was bleak.
00:43:44
Speaker
Bleak as hell.
00:43:46
Speaker
It was really good.
00:43:48
Speaker
So, yeah.
00:43:49
Speaker
That's honestly kind of dominated my week.
00:43:53
Speaker
What about you, Kim?
00:43:54
Speaker
What have you been playing?
00:43:56
Speaker
Oh, by the way, have you met any romantic partners yet?
00:43:59
Speaker
I met one girl.
00:44:01
Speaker
I just finished up a gaggle of storyline with this nomad chick.
00:44:08
Speaker
Pan Am.
00:44:09
Speaker
Pan Am.
00:44:10
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:10
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:10
Speaker
And it gave me an option to romance her.
00:44:13
Speaker
Yes.
00:44:13
Speaker
Or at least to hit on her.
00:44:14
Speaker
And I didn't take it.
00:44:16
Speaker
I don't know why.
00:44:17
Speaker
You should.
00:44:18
Speaker
I should.
00:44:18
Speaker
OK.
00:44:19
Speaker
Well, I mean, I'm not saying anything, but I she's pretty excellent.
00:44:23
Speaker
She's Pan Am is I think Pan Am is one of the tops.
00:44:27
Speaker
And she's also like each character has like each there's a bunch of romance options and they kind of like range.
00:44:37
Speaker
They're not they're not player sexual.
00:44:40
Speaker
So a V with a feminine body cannot romance Pan Am.
00:44:47
Speaker
She doesn't.
00:44:48
Speaker
She doesn't swing that way.
00:44:49
Speaker
She only will romance a masculine V. Right.
00:44:55
Speaker
So but there's other characters for like there's a bunch.
00:44:59
Speaker
There's I want to say six, six or seven romanceable characters in the story and all that stuff.
00:45:07
Speaker
Right.
00:45:07
Speaker
Right.
00:45:08
Speaker
But yeah, no, awesome.
00:45:10
Speaker
I really love Cyberpunk 2077.
00:45:11
Speaker
I'm really enjoying it.
00:45:14
Speaker
Like, it's wild, even with all the stuff that happened to it.
00:45:19
Speaker
And I played it not that long after it released.
00:45:22
Speaker
It was maybe like four months after it released, and I really liked it.
00:45:28
Speaker
It had already had a good number of fixes to make it worthwhile.
00:45:33
Speaker
But now it's...
00:45:36
Speaker
It's like, it's even better.
00:45:39
Speaker
And also I have the DLC with featuring Idris Elba.
00:45:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:47
Speaker
I was just looking at that.
00:45:48
Speaker
That I need to get into.
00:45:50
Speaker
It's, it's, it's, yeah.
00:45:52
Speaker
And it's, it's great.
00:45:52
Speaker
This game's enormous as it is.
00:45:54
Speaker
So.
00:45:54
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:56
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:56
Speaker
I'm a little sad that CD Projekt Red's next project is Witcher.
00:46:02
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:02
Speaker
I'm sure plenty of people are not on the same level with you.
00:46:07
Speaker
I know.
00:46:07
Speaker
I would have liked more in the Cyberpunk 2077 world just because I think currently that's more my speed.
00:46:15
Speaker
Because the Witcher games are more standard open world where you're a dude.
00:46:22
Speaker
Or on a horse or whatever.
00:46:23
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:24
Speaker
Versus the city-based open world, which I find I really enjoy.
00:46:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:32
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:32
Speaker
Okay.
00:46:33
Speaker
So what did I play?
00:46:37
Speaker
What have I played?
00:46:38
Speaker
I have been playing...
Game Recommendations
00:46:45
Speaker
Okay, well, I've played more Path of Exile 2.
00:46:47
Speaker
I don't think anybody wants to hear about that.
00:46:51
Speaker
I finally got to Act 2 on Path of Exile 2, which is kind of hard to do as a solo player.
00:46:58
Speaker
Oh, wow, yeah.
00:46:59
Speaker
But I got there.
00:47:00
Speaker
But what I have been playing a lot of that I really recommend everybody check out, especially if you are a fan of...
00:47:09
Speaker
The Return of Obra Dinn is a game called The Root Trees Are Dead.
00:47:16
Speaker
Now, this game was a browser game at one point.
00:47:23
Speaker
And I don't know how far the browser... Yeah, RootTrees.com.
00:47:32
Speaker
Let's see.
00:47:34
Speaker
I don't know how far the browser game went, so to speak.
00:47:38
Speaker
But the...
00:47:41
Speaker
The version of the game that's just released on Steam, you go through this entire mystery, and it's the same as Return of Obra Dinn.
00:47:51
Speaker
Hold on.
00:47:51
Speaker
Brighton wants to get out of here.
00:47:53
Speaker
It's a mystery game like The Return of the Obra Dinn, where you have to figure out three identities before you...
00:48:05
Speaker
they're locked in.
00:48:07
Speaker
So the whole thing is centered around the plane crash happens and the Root Tree sisters who are the most currently the most famous of the Root Tree family.
00:48:19
Speaker
They're like all three of them are models, model actresses or whatever.
00:48:23
Speaker
They've died in a plane crash with their parents.
00:48:26
Speaker
Right.
00:48:26
Speaker
And they were the kind of like the flag bearers for this massive, uh,
00:48:33
Speaker
like old money family.
00:48:37
Speaker
So you're contacted by an anonymous person who's like, all right, well, they died.
00:48:42
Speaker
We got to figure some stuff out about the family and we got to figure out who's a root tree and who isn't.
00:48:49
Speaker
In this family tree.
00:48:51
Speaker
So the idea is like there's like she gives you a list.
00:48:55
Speaker
The person that you that hires you a list of like the nine notable ones that are easy to find.
00:49:01
Speaker
And your tools are it's set in 1998.
00:49:04
Speaker
And your tools are an Internet browser thing to search through the library and a periodical system.
00:49:16
Speaker
So you are able to like you can like basically do these these Google searches.
00:49:21
Speaker
You just put in the name and something might come up.
00:49:25
Speaker
Some people it'll nothing will come up, but then you'll find something like, oh, their actual name was this.
00:49:32
Speaker
So you put that name in and it's it's a lot of fun.
00:49:36
Speaker
I really had.
00:49:37
Speaker
a lot of a good time with it.
00:49:39
Speaker
I've beaten the first half of the game, which I believe is probably where the original version of the game stopped.
00:49:47
Speaker
And then there's another part called Root Tree Mania that you get to after you filled out the entire original family tree.
00:49:58
Speaker
And we're like, all right, we filled out the original family tree.
00:50:02
Speaker
Now we're going to do a family tree for all the affairs that happened.
00:50:06
Speaker
Oh my God, that's amazing.
00:50:09
Speaker
Oh, I love that.
00:50:10
Speaker
So you have to figure out who slept with who and what offspring that produced in the second half.
00:50:16
Speaker
I haven't started it.
00:50:17
Speaker
I just looked at the second, like it goes, all right, well, the main family tree is down and like, let's do the rest of the blood relatives, so to speak.
00:50:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:28
Speaker
That is excellent.
00:50:30
Speaker
I'm really, this is probably going to be my first 2025 game that I play.
00:50:35
Speaker
I'm glad you're enjoying it because we tend to be in sync when it comes to those kinds of games.
00:50:39
Speaker
So that's exciting.
00:50:42
Speaker
Take a look at it.
00:50:43
Speaker
It's fun.
00:50:45
Speaker
I fired up Nier Adhamida and just to play it a little bit.
00:50:53
Speaker
Get back into the groove.
00:50:54
Speaker
You know, what's hilarious about it is like on Steam, it's listed as one of my most played games entirely on accident.
00:51:03
Speaker
It says on Steam that I have 194 hours in it.
00:51:08
Speaker
Mainly, I turned it on the first time I got it.
00:51:12
Speaker
I turned it on and then I got distracted and then several days went by and I came back to my computer and I was like, oh, shit, this is still running.
00:51:20
Speaker
Yeah, I that's that's the thing.
00:51:24
Speaker
Bellatra is a really good example for me.
00:51:26
Speaker
I have absolutely put in a shit ton of hours on that, but it's not as many as as as it says.
00:51:32
Speaker
And that's based mostly on the same kind of thing where I'll put it on.
00:51:35
Speaker
It's just such an easy game to walk away from for a second.
00:51:37
Speaker
And yes, exactly.
00:51:38
Speaker
You know, it's been on for a day.
00:51:40
Speaker
So it's been on.
00:51:41
Speaker
Yeah, it's easy for that to happen.
00:51:44
Speaker
I think.
00:51:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:45
Speaker
Dark Souls three, which I have played quite a bit also is the same thing.
00:51:49
Speaker
I have not put 300 hours into Dark Souls three like Elden Ring.
00:51:55
Speaker
I have put in a lot of hours.
00:51:58
Speaker
I have put in 145 hours like those are real hours.
00:52:04
Speaker
The 300 in Dark Souls three.
00:52:06
Speaker
No, the game is 15 hours long.
00:52:09
Speaker
I have not played it that many times.
00:52:13
Speaker
I just saw the, I was looking at the discovery queue on steam, just saw that there's going to be another standalone DLC for Elden Ring this year.
00:52:22
Speaker
Oh, it's not a DLC.
00:52:23
Speaker
It's its own game.
00:52:24
Speaker
Oh shit.
00:52:25
Speaker
Okay.
00:52:25
Speaker
I didn't know that.
00:52:26
Speaker
Elden Ring Night Reign is its own game.
00:52:30
Speaker
It's just a, it's a roguelike or roguelite Elden Ring game.
00:52:36
Speaker
Oh, I think I have heard of this.
00:52:38
Speaker
Okay.
00:52:38
Speaker
Okay.
00:52:39
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:40
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:40
Speaker
Got it.
00:52:42
Speaker
So that's a quick turnaround.
00:52:44
Speaker
It's a quick turnaround.
00:52:45
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:46
Speaker
I mean, obviously they're reusing a lot of assets and it looks like there's even like Dark Souls three bosses in it.
00:52:53
Speaker
Oh, wow.
00:52:54
Speaker
So, yeah.
00:52:56
Speaker
What else have I been playing?
00:52:58
Speaker
Oh, I've fired up Marvel Rivals.
Marvel Rivals Review
00:53:03
Speaker
Oh, how do you like that?
00:53:05
Speaker
Well, you know, it hits that, you know, remember the early days of Overwatch?
00:53:10
Speaker
Sure.
00:53:11
Speaker
Where it hit that spot and you're like, oh, oh, yeah.
00:53:15
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:16
Speaker
That's Marvel rivals.
00:53:18
Speaker
Very nice.
00:53:19
Speaker
What I'll say is hornier.
00:53:24
Speaker
Okay.
00:53:26
Speaker
I'll go with that.
00:53:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:28
Speaker
There's more characters and Marvel rivals that I think the internet has decided they would like to consensually make love to.
00:53:41
Speaker
Oh, sure.
00:53:42
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:53:43
Speaker
I was looking at that.
00:53:44
Speaker
I was like, oh, Mr. Fantastic's looking very sexy.
00:53:48
Speaker
It's not what I'm used to with him.
00:53:50
Speaker
He's like, did you make that Mr. Fantastic model?
00:53:53
Speaker
Yes, sir.
00:53:53
Speaker
Made him real fucking sexy like you asked me to.
00:53:55
Speaker
Wait, what?
00:53:56
Speaker
Wait, what?
00:53:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:00
Speaker
Yeah, not known for his cum gutters, Mr. Fantastic, but there it is.
00:54:06
Speaker
I mean, he can, you know, I think that's fine.
00:54:09
Speaker
Oh, sure.
00:54:10
Speaker
Yeah, nothing wrong.
00:54:12
Speaker
I mean, he can take whatever shape he wants.
00:54:15
Speaker
Let's be honest.
00:54:16
Speaker
You know what?
00:54:16
Speaker
That's a good point.
00:54:17
Speaker
He can, yeah.
00:54:19
Speaker
I found out early on that my main is Luna Snow.
00:54:22
Speaker
Okay.
00:54:24
Speaker
And she is she's a pretty new character.
00:54:27
Speaker
She was created in 2018.
00:54:29
Speaker
She's a Korean.
00:54:33
Speaker
So her her civilian identity is as a K-pop idol.
00:54:37
Speaker
Oh, that's interesting.
00:54:38
Speaker
Okay.
00:54:39
Speaker
And she uses ice powers.
00:54:41
Speaker
But in Marvel Rivals, it's like ice powers, but also she can heal people using the ice powers.
00:54:50
Speaker
Basically, she's like Lucio in Overwatch was.
00:54:55
Speaker
In fact, she even...
00:54:58
Speaker
Only going forward, she starts skating forward with ice on her boots.
00:55:06
Speaker
She can't do it backwards or sideways.
00:55:08
Speaker
Lucio could go in whatever direction, skated and was faster than everybody else.
00:55:13
Speaker
But going forward, she is faster than almost everybody else.
00:55:19
Speaker
But yeah, so she's a...
00:55:23
Speaker
Uh, soul.
00:55:24
Speaker
He, uh, or Luna snow is the, uh, is my main so far.
00:55:31
Speaker
Uh, I put in, put in a few rounds.
00:55:34
Speaker
Um, but yeah, it's, uh, it's really cool.
00:55:38
Speaker
There is a, it's, it's neat that they put her in it, especially since, uh, there are, um,
00:55:48
Speaker
Like there's a lot of characters already playable, like Penny Parker is already in there.
00:55:55
Speaker
You got the entirety of the Fantastic Four.
00:55:57
Speaker
You got Jeff the Landshark.
00:55:59
Speaker
I've heard a lot of things about Jeff the Landshark being kind of OP.
00:56:02
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:03
Speaker
Which he is also OP in Marvel Snap.
00:56:12
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:13
Speaker
You got Moon Knight and and all the all the.
00:56:18
Speaker
Oh, and obviously one of the characters that everybody is in love with is Squirrel Girl.
00:56:25
Speaker
Of course.
00:56:26
Speaker
Of course.
00:56:27
Speaker
Yeah, we love a thick rodent based lady.
00:56:32
Speaker
We love a thick anthropomorphized squirrel girl rodent lady with the squirrel ears.
00:56:39
Speaker
And she got that tail.
00:56:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:56:41
Speaker
She got the tail on top of the cake, which is.
00:56:46
Speaker
My, my, my.
00:56:46
Speaker
My, my, my.
00:56:51
Speaker
She plays... So I couldn't... I tried playing her.
00:56:54
Speaker
I couldn't really figure her out right away.
00:56:56
Speaker
But it was like, is she like Junkrat or something like that?
00:57:00
Speaker
I couldn't tell.
00:57:02
Speaker
Like all the characters have kind of a...
00:57:06
Speaker
You can kind of pair them with an Overwatch character.
00:57:11
Speaker
There's an easy comparison there.
00:57:13
Speaker
There's an easy comparison there, but I'm sure there's a bunch of them that I haven't touched yet that are in no way like an Overwatch character.
00:57:23
Speaker
But I feel like they already have more characters in Marvel Rivals than they ever had in Overwatch.
00:57:28
Speaker
It's enormous.
00:57:29
Speaker
It's crazy how many there are.
00:57:32
Speaker
Especially when you've got that one terrible Star Wars character shooter, squad shooter that came out and they like –
00:57:43
Speaker
just fucking like have a handful and only one of them is you only get one of them to start with.
00:57:48
Speaker
Otherwise you got to pay money.
00:57:49
Speaker
And just like, they're really kicking their ass with this.
00:57:54
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:54
Speaker
It's a cloak and dagger count as one character, by the way.
00:57:58
Speaker
Oh, nice.
00:57:58
Speaker
Nice.
00:57:59
Speaker
Nice.
00:58:00
Speaker
Of course they do.
00:58:01
Speaker
They play like you choose cloak and dagger, not one or the other.
00:58:06
Speaker
Nice.
00:58:06
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Yeah.
00:58:08
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And was it Bruce and the Hulk slash Bruce Manor plays like what's your name?
00:58:15
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The girl in the mech in Overwatch.
00:58:19
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Oh, yeah.
00:58:21
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It's been a while.
00:58:22
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Damn it.
00:58:26
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D.Va.
00:58:27
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Yes.
00:58:27
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Hulk actually plays like D.Va is kind of funny because when Hulk takes too much damage, he transforms back into Bruce Banner.
00:58:36
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Oh, OK.
00:58:37
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Who's just like a scrawny, nerdy dude running around with his little science pistol.
00:58:43
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And you have to just build your charge up again to and throw like the gamma grenades until he's able to turn into Hulk again.
00:58:51
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Yeah.
00:58:53
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So yeah, it's a lot of fun.
00:58:55
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Worth trying for a bit.
00:58:59
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But yeah, that's actually it.
00:59:02
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Sweet.
Conclusion and Patreon Mention
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One thing I haven't done yet, and it's important that I do it, or else I'll never hear the end of it, is talk about a lovely website called patreon.com.
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slash pixel it pod.
00:59:24
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It's a beautiful website.
00:59:26
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It's it's.
00:59:27
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Everybody says so.
00:59:28
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Everybody says so.
00:59:31
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It's a beautiful website and you can follow us for free on there.
00:59:36
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One dollar gets you in the door.
00:59:38
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Five dollars.
00:59:39
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You're allowed to listen to an ad free episode.
00:59:42
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and also get the pre-show bonus.
00:59:45
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And $10 gets your name read out in every episode.
00:59:50
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So to that end, I want to thank Jesus Loves You, Kyle Seaman, Ruthless, Muttered, Middle of Things, Sigma-style, Chet, Beaked, Demet, Thick, and Friendly Friend.
00:59:58
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Thank you for being a friend.
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And that'll do it for tonight's episode.
01:00:04
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Thank you so much for listening.
01:00:06
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If you can follow us on Blue Sky.
01:00:10
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And from what I understand, there's actually going to be a Instagram version of Blue Sky coming out in the future.
01:00:19
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So we're just going to move right on off of Instagram to that.
01:00:22
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We're going to get right on out of there when that comes out.
01:00:25
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There's going to be a Sky version.
01:00:27
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I love it.
01:00:28
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I think like a tick tock or whatever, uh, just, just get it all out of there.
01:00:33
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Um, perfect.
01:00:34
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So yeah, perfect.
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Perfect for us.
01:00:36
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Perfect for you.
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Things are great.
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Uh, we love you.
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Have a good evening.