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SEC Championship Preview | 2025 Georgia Football
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Jim and John preview Georgia’s matchup with Alabama in the SEC Championship and answer listener questions.
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Podcast Introduction & Promotion
00:00:00
Speaker
I always say that this game isn't a rivalry. I feel like you're trying to, to, to maybe change my mind a little bit here, John. Don't make it a thing. It's not going to happen, John.
00:00:13
Speaker
Welcome to my got a podcast. I'm Jim Wood. In this episode, John Powell and I preview Georgia's sec championship rematch with the Alabama crimson tide. We talk through what we're looking for in the game and we answer questions from you, our listeners.
00:00:27
Speaker
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00:00:43
Speaker
Now, let's join the conversation in progress.
SEC Championship Significance
00:00:52
Speaker
Is that the the Ben Affleck exhale? This is the Ben Affleck meme that you're going to see on the Twitters film promoting this ah this episode from me. So if you're if you're listening to this after clicking on a link from the social media, it's look for my response.
00:01:13
Speaker
but It will be a Ben Affleck meme. The preview we didn't think we were going to do round two with Bama. this At this point, it's like this game is like inevitable kind of thing. like I don't know. It's wild.
00:01:26
Speaker
Yes. It is what it is. Let's get it over with. I think that i think that it's it's one of those things where it's like we're we're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't.
00:01:38
Speaker
um I don't know. there's There's an argument that we can win we we win regardless because... I still think that there's an opportunity for us to get a home playoff game, even if we lose this.
00:01:50
Speaker
um If we win it we get a bye. So, I mean, as as as
00:01:58
Speaker
at the risk of triggering Josh within the first five seconds of this this podcast or first five minutes of this podcast, like this game doesn't matter in any way, shape or form, except for Alabama.
00:02:10
Speaker
Uh, I think this game matters for, I mean, outside of the UN championship, but as far as the playoff goes, I do think it matters for seating. My take, did. I think Alabama's, I think both these teams are in the playoff.
00:02:22
Speaker
I think you're right. I think Georgia, it's, you know, a buy versus hosting a home playoff game. For Alabama, I think it's just seeding. The new playoff rankings came out already today.
00:02:35
Speaker
Bama moved up to nine. So now they're at nine. I feel like that's maneuvering such that should Georgia win this game, they just drop them one spot to 10 and they're in as a 10 seed.
00:02:46
Speaker
That's my take. i don't I think this is all for seeding and rest, frankly. One would argue that it's pointless, Jim.
00:02:58
Speaker
I definitely didn't like i I think we'll probably do this one a little bit a little bit differently than some of the other previews considering it's the the second time we're playing them. I definitely didn't feel the same way when we clinched a SEC championship berth this year as I did last year. So last year, you know, I think it was like Auburn beat A&M and like that that game.
00:03:21
Speaker
clinched the SEC championship berth for us last year. And I remember, I think Lily was still up. She and I were watching the game, that game. And when that result happened, like we were like jumping up and down, celebrating, cheering, you know, we're going to the SEC championship. We're going to the SEC championship.
Historical Anecdotes & Rivalry Reflections
00:03:34
Speaker
I didn't feel that way this this go around. My mood has shifted as this week has gotten underway and we're getting closer. So that's good. I feel a lot better than I do. I feel a lot better about this right now than I did Friday night, but Friday night, I think part of that was we had just come off of a very weird game, you know, close win over Georgia tech.
00:03:56
Speaker
We were still dealing with the immediate news of drew Bobo getting injured. And I just didn't feel great. It's like, you know, and I'm lost and they get rewarded with, essentially a bye week in a home playoff game just feel felt odd um so yeah kind of kind of weird but i i will say like at this point now like the the highlight videos just start you know came out like i watched the highlight reel and just the the preview stuff has started coming out like you're seeing the stuff on social media etc and now
00:04:27
Speaker
I'll say the same thing as I said. I will say the same thing I said last year is you make it to this game. You really want to win it. um mean, I'll, I, I know we look at last year, but I think let's not put too much into one season. I still think like this team is beat up and I i do think a buy helps a buy in the playoff helps go straight to the quarterfinal. So shoot, man, this is like major league, right? And like, just went and just go win it.
00:04:54
Speaker
Only one thing to do. Yeah, for sure. let's Let's go out and win it. um Yeah. let's Let's get on with it, Jim. Let's go. All right. Just reminder, everyone, you can always follow us on social media at MyGottaPodcast on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, TikTok. And always head over to homefield.mygotapodcast.com and you can use code HUNKERDOWN for 15% off your first order.
00:05:24
Speaker
right, the quick rundown for the matchup. Saturday, December 6th. This game is at 4 o'clock. Back in the Benz, so back-to-back weeks in the Benz for the Dogs. Georgia coming in at 11 and one on the season, seven, one in the sec.
00:05:39
Speaker
The only loss, obviously to these guys, Alabama, um, at 10 and two with that other mind boggling. Now conference out of conference loss to Florida state, seven to one in sec, uh, only lost in the league to Oklahoma. The dogs are ranked number three in all the polls. Alabama is 10 in the, like the coaches and eight people. And then like we just said, they're number nine in the CFP rankings.
00:06:03
Speaker
Um, The game is on ABC, so if you're at watching from home, this will be the the big crew, Chris Fowler, Kirk Herbstreet, and then the dual sideline reporters of Holly Rowe and Laura Rutledge. If you're listening on SiriusXM, it'll be 106 or 190.
00:06:15
Speaker
The official hashtag that we will forget to use is hashtag SECCG for the SEC Championship game. And Alabama leads the all-time series here, 45-26-4 ties. Last meeting obviously, Earlier this season in Athens where Alabama hung on to win 24 to 21.
00:06:35
Speaker
If you are heading to the Benz, weather looks like not freezing, I guess, like in the 50s is what it looks like. It's been cold. Yeah, yeah, a cloudy day. So you'll definitely pack your jacket and such if you're going be a belt tailgate.
00:06:53
Speaker
Bring your layers. For sure. right, JB, I believe you have a fun fact. I don't know if this is Alabama, if it's SEC Championship, if it's if it's what. Let's hear it.
00:07:03
Speaker
I have some fun facts about this rivalry in general. um And some of it has to do with SEC Championship and some of it doesn't. um Okay, so let's ah let's hit up with just a couple of things um just overall.
00:07:21
Speaker
um It has to be said. This is why this is like the Ben Affleck sigh meme, smoking, whatever. Alabama has never lost to Georgia in an SEC championship game. We are 0-4 currently, all-time versus Alabama in the SEC title game.
00:07:38
Speaker
um Yeah, exactly. ah ah um but hey, streaks are made to be broken, right, Jim? Because I think that here you have a couple of things you have a couple of things about that later. So there's there's some streaks that are going to end in some way, shape, or form.
00:07:57
Speaker
Okay. A couple of things. So there's ah back in the 40s, this team played in a game um where it was referred to as the peanut butter game.
00:08:09
Speaker
Jim, are you familiar with this game? I'm not. Enlighten me. So in the 1940s, there was ah the it was the first postseason matchup between these two teams. um Fans complained that the concessions ran out of everything except for peanuts.
00:08:25
Speaker
Georgia fans said that Alabama played like peanut butter, sloppy but impossible to stop. And Alabama fans said Georgia choked on nuts. um That was a nice foray, even in the 40s, of fan banter about this rivalry.
00:08:44
Speaker
So were they're still going they're still going at it they're still going at it in the 40s. they didn't use They didn't need Twitter. They did not even need Twitter. They just had the newspaper, I guess, or whatever.
00:08:54
Speaker
um Okay. Let's see here. there's... so therere
00:09:04
Speaker
There's definitely some some weird some weird names that that we have with this game. um But the peanut butter game was was kind of one of ah one of the funner ones, in my in my opinion.
00:09:16
Speaker
um There's a couple of other games that are more obscure that I'll kind of touch on that I feel like Jason would be proud of some of these some of these nuggets. So I'm going to try to do a little segue into some Hargit histories, Jason Hastie's Hargit history here.
00:09:34
Speaker
So in 1929, the game was played in a miserable cold that no one had prepared for. This game was in Tuscaloosa and it was in freezing weather other conditions.
00:09:46
Speaker
um And again, like both teams wore zero cold weather gear because no one thought that Alabama could get that cold. And apparently like players were warming their hands over gas lamps. They had to have hot bricks on the sidelines to unfreeze cleats.
00:10:02
Speaker
um It was basically like SEC frostbite fest, basically. um So that was that was the 1929 game. In 1935, almost the exact opposite, the game had to be stopped between these two teams because the field had turned into a literal pond.
00:10:20
Speaker
The officials had to pause the game so that water could drain off of the field. um Georgia fans joke that Alabama players float. That's why they win. And Alabama fans said that Georgia can't swim.
00:10:34
Speaker
So again, but like even in the 30s, they didn't need Twitter to talk trash. ah love it
00:10:43
Speaker
I love it. 1910, the reporters called one of the UGA Alabama matchups the bone game because players hit each other so hard there were ah multiple bone fractures that happened.
00:10:57
Speaker
Post-game medical tent was bigger than the locker room. Wow. Okay. Yeah. A contest of unbreakable men, which was basically just a ah nice way of saying that it was It was just ah an absolute violent game in 1913. Let's see here. here's Here's one from the nineteen thirty s um This game was a particularly physical matchup. Alabama, the out where it was said that a sports writer wrote The Alabama um line looked like a herd of charging elephants.
00:11:29
Speaker
And that, my friends, is where the name elephants or red elephants or whatever. That's where the elephant elephant tradition kind of was born, was out of Georgia-Alabama game.
00:11:42
Speaker
Okay. um Another game in the 80s featured Ugga barking at Alabama's mascot him handler that barked back for 20 seconds to the point where the referee had to tell the handler to settle down.
00:12:01
Speaker
um Okay, there's another one. This one's going to involve the bands. So, Brett Belding, I've got a little little note here for you from the Redcoats.
00:12:12
Speaker
So there was a game in 1947 that was known as the Musical Taunt Battle. Georgia Redcoat band kept playing a riff from Dixie in between plays and Alabama's million dollar band responded by blasting March of the Gladiators directly at the Redcoats.
00:12:30
Speaker
Each band subsequently tried to play louder and fans cheering like in a sound war more than the game. The referee had to basically tell both bands to knock it off mid drive.
00:12:43
Speaker
Referees getting involved in these rivalries is kind of it a thing, and it doesn't have even have anything to do with the football game. Like, what is going on? the The history of this rivalry goes back a long time with all of the banter happening off the field.
00:13:01
Speaker
um I've got another one here for you, Jim. 1960s, 1962. The rivalry got so heated it affected the governor's schedule. um The governor Georgia governor delayed a meeting. Alabama's governor postponed a speech because both of them wanted to be physically present for practice.
00:13:20
Speaker
Yeah. we're talking We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. Exactly. um Okay. 1950. In the 1950s, there was a game that included a halftime hot dog eating contest between students.
00:13:37
Speaker
There was a local vendor, and there was Georgia and Alabama both put forward a student, and the UGA student won with a total of 18 hot dogs eaten in eight minutes.
00:13:49
Speaker
I wonder how joy chestnut feels about this. Sorry. Go ahead. Yeah, seriously. Seriously. Which just sounds like an an an astronomical amount amount of hot dogs to eat. And even in the 1950s.
00:14:01
Speaker
Yeah. In eight minutes for sure. Yeah. In eight minutes. Yeah. I don't know. <unk>d I'd eat three and I'd be done. Yeah. Okay. um In the 1940s, Alabama had their own version of a broke-ma-chair, a metal steel chair kind of kind of moment.
00:14:19
Speaker
yeah um During a UGA touchdown versus Alabama, the announcer got so animated, he fell backward off of his stool, and listeners at home heard a scream, static, and then the broadcast partner said, he's all right, folks. He's just passionate.
00:14:33
Speaker
yeah ah Nice. um Let's see here. Another one from the 70s. This one from the 70s. One fan calculated the outcome using astrology.
00:14:48
Speaker
A Georgia fan wrote to the Athens Banner Herald claiming that he used lunar alignment, star charts, and birth dates of both head coaches to predict the game. the Did he get it right?
00:14:59
Speaker
du He was wrong by 31 points. Yeah. ah
00:15:07
Speaker
uh that's that's just a quick rundown from i mean where i mean how far back did i go like the teens yeah like 1913 all the way the seven the 80s i think i mean i i feel like you're trying to that you because i always say that this game isn't a rivalry i feel like you're trying to to to maybe change my mind a little bit here john don't make it a thing it's not gonna happen john I mean, it seems like that there's more involved to this rivalry than I think even I ever really realized. And so I feel like that, you know, we're we're we're all kind of like over this current status of things.
00:15:44
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. A bit. But it's definitely been something that we have bantered with this fan base dating all the way back the 1913. Yeah. That's cool.
00:15:57
Speaker
yeah that's cool And probably even further. That's, that's just what I was able to come up in my very extensive research. gen Well, now we just need a name for the game or something. yeah cause I doubt at this point we'll start disagreeing on the overall record. How about we call it the one with the revenge? The one with the revenge.
00:16:18
Speaker
Okay. Okay. Cool. All right. Well, that was good. That was good. That was some good fun facts. And and maybe maybe maybe this is heading towards becoming a rivalry. We shall see. Yeah. We're on our way. I don't know.
00:16:30
Speaker
The peanut butter game sounds pretty amazing. a That, yes, that was definitely the highlight for me. a Cool. All right. Well, let's let let's see ah how jason how Jason feels that and we can roll into Hacy's Hargit History.
00:16:46
Speaker
Yes, let's roll into it. All right, let's do it.
00:17:05
Speaker
All right. This is Hasties Hargaret history for Alabama round two SEC championship game edition of the season. The April 25th, 1896 edition of the red and black carried the following note in its collegiate and social life sex session yeah section.
00:17:24
Speaker
Pop Warner will in all probability coach the varsity football team again next fall. The students will be glad to see his giant form on the Georgia great iron again as our trainer. Glenn Pop Warner had first come to Georgia in September of the previous year. He'd been a star at guard at Cornell and had captained to their 1894 team.
00:17:42
Speaker
After graduating Cornell with a law degree, Warner briefly worked as an attorney in Buffalo, New York. Warner was more interested in football than in the law, though. Warner was perhaps more interested in gambling and horse racing than anything, which often left him in need of funds.
00:17:57
Speaker
To bring in money, Warner accepted two coaching positions in 1895, one at Iowa Agricultural College, now Iowa State University, and the other at Georgia. He balanced the two by working with the Iowa Agricultural Cyclones during the summer and through the beginning of their season. Then he'd move to Athens.
00:18:14
Speaker
While in Athens, he continued to send coaching advice to Iowa Agricultural College through the Telegraph. Perhaps this was Lane Kiffin's plan to coach at Ole Miss and LSU. Amazing zing. There is some debate about how many games Warner saw in Ames, with some sources saying he only saw the Cyclones play once.
00:18:34
Speaker
Warner, who Georgia paid $34 per week during the 1895 season, began implementing changes to the team's training regimen, including introducing a tackling dummy. Warner was not, despite what is often said, Georgia's first paid football coach. That was Robert Winston, whose story was covered in a Hasties Hargaret History last season.
00:18:54
Speaker
The 1895 season was promising despite a 3-4 record, so Warner was given $6 a week raise to return in 1896. Warner continued to coach Iowa Agricultural as well.
00:19:06
Speaker
The 1896 team had a promising core of players upon which Warner could build. The experienced Rufus Cow Nally returned, as did Hatton Lovejoy. Also in the team was talented 16-year-old freshman Richard Vondibald Von Gammon, who punted, observers said, like a veteran.
00:19:23
Speaker
1896 was Georgia's second year in the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association, a sprawling and loosely organized conference of teams around the South. In 1895, the SIAA had only five schools, but had expanded to 16 schools for the 1896 season.
00:19:43
Speaker
Georgia began the 1896 season on October 24th with a game 26-0 win over Wofford College in Spartanburg. The next game was a 24-16 victory over North Carolina, which fielded strong teams during this era, and which was one of Georgia's early rivals.
00:19:59
Speaker
The next game was against Sewanee on Hurdy Field, which was one of the most dominant dominant programs in the country during the eighteen ninety s Georgia defeated Sewanee with the same score they dispatched Wofford, 26-0.
00:20:11
Speaker
Georgia played its fourth and final game of the season against arch-rival Auburn on thanksgivings Thanksgiving Day at Brisbane Park in southwest Atlanta. Georgia defeated Auburn 12-6. The sweep of its four-game schedule gave Georgia its first-ever conference championship, though it was shared with LSU.
00:20:29
Speaker
Warner moved on from Georgia after the 1896 season. He would coach until 1938 and would leave a legacy of innovation. He developed the single wing formation, the double wing formation, the three point stance, the tackling dummy and the screen pass to mention a few, mention a few. Mike Bobo loves that nugget screen pass invented at Georgia.
00:20:50
Speaker
yes His most notable coaching stop was at the Carlisle Indian School, where he coached Jim Thorpe. In 1911, Warner and Thorpe beat Harvard 18-15 in what remains one of the greatest upsets in college football history. The next year, Warner and Thorpe upset a powerful Army team twenty seven to six and in the process injured Army star linebacker Dwight D. Eisenhower so badly that he almost washed out at West Point.
00:21:14
Speaker
The 1896 season was the high point for Georgia's football fortunes in the Vaughn Gammon would lose his life the next season at Brisbane Park, and afterwards the program would stagnate until the arrival of Alex Cunningham and Bob McWhorter in 1910.
00:21:28
Speaker
We wouldn't have another undefeated season until Wally Butts and Charlie Trippi led us to an 11-0 record 50 years later in 1946. Warner died in Palo Alto, California in 1954 at the age of 83.
Georgia & Alabama Game Strategies
00:21:42
Speaker
That's fantastic. Thank you, Jason, as always, for saying that over. And just have to always remind folks, you can always stop by the Harvard Library and Jason will will be happy to show you around and show you some artifacts. I know...
00:21:52
Speaker
John and I both have enjoyed our our time there when when we've done that. And ah hey, Jason, thanks for the the bonus Harvard history that, you know, as a week ago, we we didn't really think we would have. So thanks for pulling that together. Yes, thank you, sir.
00:22:03
Speaker
It also is wild to me like how much you know through these games and like the the names that you hear that everyone knows, like Pop Warner or you know we've we've had Heisman stuff on these you know but before. it's It's crazy. So the names that came through the the South back in the day.
00:22:20
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Football football runs runs deep and wide in the South. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Uh, let's see news and let's go hit the news and notes.
00:22:31
Speaker
Um, kind of look through Kirby's press conference notes. I think, um, think there was the sec teleconference and then just his, his regular Monday press conference. So, I mean, the big question is Bobo status on Bobo.
00:22:46
Speaker
Um, he was like on a we saw him in a walking boot, something in crutches after the game. Um, Kirby said there was like no more update on the status that they're still looking into things with him.
00:22:56
Speaker
So I think what we've heard was not, not great. Um, but i don't know when we're not great, Bob. Yeah. i Great. When Kirby says things like this, I don't really know what that means. It could be like coach peak, you know, i don't know. We'll, we'll see what it says when the injury report comes out Wednesday night, be looking for that.
00:23:13
Speaker
um And then he did mention like Kyron Jones and Taylor Taylor Taylor are still like working through some things. So still trying to get those guys back.
00:23:24
Speaker
My my big question is around Chauncey Bowens. I didn't see like that Kirby really mentioned him, but that's my big question. um I think what I did see was post-game last week. He said that he could have gone but didn't.
00:23:36
Speaker
So I'm not sure exactly what all that means, but I found that interesting. So I would love to see Chauncey out there on Saturday. And then on the Alabama side. It certainly would make me feel a little bit better.
00:23:48
Speaker
Yeah, seriously, seriously. Already down your center would would be would be great to have ah another running back in this table. um And then if you watched the Iron Bowl, Jam Miller left the game injured. Kalen DeBoer in his press conference said that he still doesn't have much information on Jam, but he would continue to go through testing earlier this week, here today and tomorrow. So again, we'll see there. Let's check the ah let's check the injury report when that comes out Wednesday night.
00:24:14
Speaker
and The kind of online speculation seems to be, though, that they're going to be without ah Jim Miller. It definitely didn't look good. I mean, he was on he was on crutches, right? Like late in that game. So I don't know. We'll He was on the sideline standing on crutches.
00:24:29
Speaker
Yeah. And they're also without Kevin Riley. So he's like a freshman running back. He's actually the second second leading rusher. So there's a chance they're without their number one and two rusher for this game.
00:24:41
Speaker
We will see. I'll take it, and I'll go ahead and let everybody know that if we win, it'll be because they have their players were hurt. And if we lose, it will have nothing to do with our players being hurt.
00:24:55
Speaker
Uh, yeah. Marler has already, I've already seen stuff from Marler about that. Um, with, as far as like the game matchup, um, I mean, you look at the stats, like these are two very even teams statistically. Um, I think the big, the big difference is the turnover margin. So they're like plus eight in the turnover margin. We are minus one, on the season we're right there neck and neck on net yards for play. Like neither in that elite category that we've talked about, John, I think it's what like two, I think is kind of like the elite team.
00:25:29
Speaker
We're at 0.96 there at 0.99. I mean, I, you know, like I said earlier, we've, we've played these guys before. I think like, I, I thought we could just kind of talk about like, what's, is it, what's different now?
00:25:42
Speaker
Like from the last game to this game, as far as like the matchups that we're talking about, you know I feel like that yeah i feel like that we are ah much more cohesive team on defense at this stage.
00:25:55
Speaker
Yeah. And I probably would have said that we were fine on offense. I still think that there's just of like an outlier game there from the Georgia Tech side of things. But um um I'm mostly – if you're a Georgia fan, you're mostly optimistic about what you've seen being produced by the defense in the last – I'd say three or four weeks or so.
00:26:21
Speaker
um Josh put out a ah stat earlier this, I think it was today or yesterday or something like that, where he posted the havoc rate like progression.
00:26:32
Speaker
And you can see the havoc rates that we are producing are actually on par with some of the more elite defenses that Kirby Smart has had, even though like it may not necessarily feel that way.
00:26:44
Speaker
Because someone asked about like, what what was the havoc rates for from the past? And so he posted the havoc rates going all the way back to, you know i think 2016 or something like that. And like i was actually kind of taken aback by how well we have been playing as of as of late when you compare some of those teams from you know the past. so Like I said, I think that our defense is starting to get catch its stride. and As long as the offense stays on schedule, this very much, Jim, feels like a you know bend, ah bi don't break, slash just do what you're doing on defense over the last three weeks and then you know protect the ball, win the game. like If we don't turn the ball over, i think we win this game.
00:27:31
Speaker
And I think it's ultimately going to come, it has very much a vibe of 2012. Not so much in that thes it's two heavyweights just slugging it out like that game was.
00:27:41
Speaker
It's more so just two teams that are very clearly evenly matched. And it's ultimately going to come down to, you know, who has the ball at and the end of the game and who makes a play at the end of the game. Yeah, that sounds right. Like a one i'll play one position game kind of thing.
00:27:55
Speaker
Yeah, i I agree with you. I think I was kind of focusing on the defense there as well. like I think a big difference since then is the secondary, right? Ellis Robinson wasn't playing the way he's playing right now back then.
00:28:09
Speaker
I mean, that... we didn't I don't even remember if we talked about like the the pick he made against Tech, like that was some Malachi Star stuff, like the way he contorted to catch to catch that ball. um I think DeMello Jones was just starting to play. so I think that's that's a big difference um since since the last game. and Then again, like Jim Miller, that was his first game back.
00:28:29
Speaker
um hes you know He had been injured. He came back for that game. It was a major factor. If they don't have him, I think that's a that's a big difference as well. Um, the havoc stuff I think is interesting. I also like, I want to see what our coaches are going to do. I feel like two years ago when we faced these guys in the sec championship game, Alabama really struggled in the Auburn game and they struggled with the pressure. Like they were really good. And Auburn was really getting after their quarterback.
00:28:55
Speaker
It was really pressuring the quarterback and it felt like there was kind of a blueprint and we didn't utilize it. um So I would like to see some nice like pressure packages and and get to Ty Simpson. And the other thing is like, man, when we when we dial up that pressure, like we've got to get home. Um, we've had so many times where early, early in the game, we've got a linebacker, like Schumann scheme, something up. We've got a linebacker going straight in there. And the, you know, the running back, like does a spin move or something it gets away. Like we need to get home. And if we could do that early in the game and get that crowd and the bends on our side, um, and get the crowd going that I think it'd be huge.
00:29:32
Speaker
Yeah, I think that the other thing that will be important for us to keep in mind or, you know, kind of adhere to as a game, even if you can't get home, like collapsing the pocket and not letting and not overrunning the play um is going to be important. So I'll make the comparison of what the announcer said in the Tennessee game versus Vanderbilt.
00:29:57
Speaker
Tennessee was getting to Pavia. They weren't getting home, but they were getting to him. But the problem that they had was is that they were overrunning the play. And one of the announcers made the comment that if you're doing a pass rush and you find yourself even with the quarterback or past the quarterback, like you're you're dead you're dead to rights Because if we're overrunning the play and over pursuing, then it's opens up opportunities for him to use his legs. And we've seen Ty Simpson, not exactly like a, you know, a mobile quarterback or a scramble quarterback, but I'd say he's probably a touch slower than Arch Manning, but like,
00:30:34
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You know, Arch Manning has been known to get out and, you know, in that and in that Tennessee game, Pavia, you know, punished them on multiple plays that I saw where the defense over pursued and it was just like no one was open. And so he just took off running and he ran for like 40 yards a couple of different times because no one was there.
00:30:53
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um So I think that that's one of those things where we just can't let Ty Simpson extend plays with his legs, um even when we are getting that havoc and getting that pressure.
00:31:04
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um I think that we've but we got burned a couple times where he was you know able to mobilize himself and and found some open receivers downfield.
00:31:14
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He will pick you apart. He seems like he's a and a he's one of those. him he's he's the He's the prototypical Alabama quarterback. you know Yeah, he really is.
00:31:25
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white White dude, unassuming, just just goes out there and and puts up 3000 yards passing. Yeah. Like, yeah, has one of the quietest slope Heisman level seasons of all time.
00:31:36
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Yeah. Agreed. um Dude, I'm with you on the offense too, man. Protect the ball, win the game. I mean, that was, you could argue that was the the difference last time. um Man, get a hat on Bray Hubbard. Keep that guy away from the ball. Like, geez, Hunter, come on. Like, what's it what's going on with your boy? That kid has a nose for the ball. So he's he's definitely one to continue to to watch for. And hopefully we're we're planning around around that kid. Yeah.
00:32:06
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Yeah. I mean, i will say again, like, like differences from last time for offense, obviously sounds like we have a different center. I, um, I feel better about Tolliver after reading, uh, coach Hayes's review of his performance in the game. So, um, I know he posted in dog central. I think he, he may put it out on his channel as well. Um, so shout out, shout out coach Hayes, um, helping us feel better.
00:32:32
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on that basically saying like that he, he played better than like the announcers were making it out to be. And that like, everyone was kind of assuming like, ah, you know, he was terrible or whatever, but he said that he actually didn't grade out that bad. So.
00:32:43
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Okay. um be baby And then just like, I think the running game is much improved. Since we played Bama first time. That's probably fair.
00:32:53
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Yeah. And then, um although granted, we'll, we'll see how that goes with breaking it and kind of taking over the season. Yeah. Yeah. And then like, and we'll see too, what, do what do we do at center? Like, so is it Tolliver? Sounds like we're probably been working Glover in at center a bit as well there. So, you know, watch for that, see who's out there. And then, you don't know, Noah Thomas has really come on since that first game.
00:33:18
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So. Whenever you have new centers come into come into play, it's like the most important you know offensive line position, may arguably the most important position.
00:33:29
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um i'll be I'll be watching for clean snaps, you know, kind of thing. yeah that's what that's what always makes you nervous in these in these games where like the the center goes down and all of a sudden you're talking about this the qb center exchange the you know when he when he goes into his drop backs is he making the right steps does he does the quarterback get stepped on those kinds of things seem to seem to happen when a new when a new player comes on board that the they haven't really had a whole lot of time to gel but And they they weren't getting a whole lot of time because we had to play this know this game in a week or whatever. But um I'll be watching for for things like that.
00:34:09
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But yeah, ultimately, it's going to come down to protect the ball in the game. Yeah. Cool. I'm with you. um i would i will I will kind of last thing say I still think like special teams advantage Georgia.
00:34:22
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um I think their kicker had been like perfect right coming in that game um against us. Remember, he missed that field goal kind of uptight. and then ah He's now 13 of 20 on the season, field goals. ah Connor Talti.
00:34:38
Speaker
and shoot man When he missed that one against Oklahoma, he was like yelling at the long snapper. know if you remember that. Because the snap was high and he didn't like it. don't remember that. And he missed one against Auburn too?
00:34:50
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Man, I watched that entire game. Maybe. I feel like he missed one. but So, yeah. So, i do feel like that's I do feel like that's advantage Georgia right there. Agreed.
00:35:03
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o Yeah. Well, round two with these guys. i You know, we've already played them. don't think we need to talk about all the players and such, but probably about it. Alabama good. Georgia good. That's even.
00:35:16
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even Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it should was a close game round one, right? I mean, a three point game. So it was a close game last year. a close game. Like we we always play play these guys fairly close, all things considered.
00:35:31
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. um Especially in the Kirby smart era. So, yep. I think that, uh, all right. What I will say, and I'll address this, and maybe i know that John was probably thinking it I don't know. There's just something about this game that makes Kirby coach crazy.
00:35:49
Speaker
I don't know, for lack of a better description. Yeah. it's it's It's Kirby's. It is Kirby's boogeyman at this point. So we can we can address the the red elephant in the room.
00:36:02
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um For whatever reason, it feels like that we don't always bring our A game from a coaching standpoint. Chasing points. um doing things that we didn't wouldn't normally do, whatever whatever the case may be. um i don't know.
00:36:19
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I just hope that Kirby and staff you know go to a Zen master or something like that. i don't know. um Eat your Wheaties, say your prayers.
00:36:29
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i I think, they need to owns vitamins I think they need to, they need to practice what they preach. I mean, what they preach is the process and it's always the same. You follow the process, you follow the process and you don't worry about, you know, the result, the results are going to come when you follow the process and it, I mean, i could be wrong, but I have the same sense as you do, right? Like these doing things differently when we play them. don't do things differently. Like, you know, I mean, it's like the things we've talked about, like, you know, protect the football, take what the defense gives you, you know, like keep doing what you're good at.
00:37:03
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It's, you know, it's like, uh, do, do simple better. Like, is another thing that you hear them say, like, that's how, that's how I feel about it. Practice what you preach. And I think we should be, we should be fine.
00:37:17
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What's important now. yeah what's important now is that you do what you do best and even if that changes over the course of you know the football game um if that means that we're running the ball up the
Listener Interaction & Nostalgia
00:37:33
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gut every single play because it's netting us five yards per play don't don't switch don't switch to passing every single play but right Yeah.
00:37:44
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Yeah. Yeah. For sure. All right. All right. I I'm, I'm glad you brought that up. I'm a hundred percent agree with you. So, um, yeah, you want to to listener questions.
00:37:58
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Let's hit the listener questions, Jim. All right. right. We will head that way. ah As always, just have to remind everyone that the listener questions are brought to you by Working Web Media.
00:38:09
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00:38:49
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All right. We are going to kick it off this week with 51 7 GATA.
00:38:54
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If you could change the outcome of one of these three games, which one would you pick? And he's got, they're all Alabama games. The 2012 SEC Championship slash the Real National, the Real Natty.
00:39:07
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Second and 26, or the 2023 SEC Championship. I thought about this one a lot, actually. My original answer was going to be I wouldn't, in a way, and might not change any of them.
00:39:20
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um I'm going to pivot that. And I actually, this is maybe kind of odd. I think it's the 2023 SEC Championship, honestly. Okay. What's the, what's your rationale? um We would have closed out. I am, I am firmly convinced we went up. We win the playoff that year.
00:39:39
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Obviously, obviously second 26, we win that playoff. I feel like the other two, this is going to sound weird. especially second 26. I, I, I actually think we needed that in a way.
00:39:53
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Um, the, some of the stories that I have read about that team and kind of the way they approach some things like the reason second 26 happened is they relaxed.
00:40:04
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Um, I think Davin Bellamy has said something to that effect, um, in a book that I read. And I think that taught them, you can never relax. It's, it's never over.
00:40:14
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Um, I, so I, I just feel like 2012 and second and 26 led to back-to-back with Stetson. I'm not sure that happens if we win either of those games, honestly. And then the 2023 one, like I said, I'm convinced we win the national championship that year. If we win that SEC championship game.
00:40:32
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And then we close it out. We close out the 14 playoff area, 14 playoff era with a three Pete. So that's my logic. Uh, it's going to be 2012 for me, Jim. Totally fair answer.
00:40:45
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2012, that was just an absolute gut punch. Mark Rick deserved a national championship for all of his efforts. um I feel like that that would have been a a nice capstone season for him, given what happened from 2013 onward. 2012 was...
00:41:01
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um yeah i want to say it was 2012, Aaron Murray, you know i feel like he deserved he deserved better. um yeah know We would have Gurley with the national championship as well. like we we There would have been so many dudes. Tavares King, like there would have been so many dudes that would have gotten their comeuppance. I feel like that that that team was just that team deserved it.
00:41:29
Speaker
They deserved to break the streak. and that That coach deserved to to break the streak. um I guess that you know to kind of to riff off of your your point, like that needed to happen. or you know I don't know. like There's an argument that I feel like that probably could be made that Mark Rick guns that, that we never see Kirby Smart.
00:41:48
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That's my point. That's what I'm saying. yeah But that said, all things being equal, I would take 2012 overall.
00:41:58
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all of them. is I was there. i was in the parking lot. I wasn't there. so but i was there at an Alabama tailgate. and i will never forget that. like the dude was the dude the The people that were just being they were it was just back and forth. they they They thought the game was over.
00:42:16
Speaker
um and Then finally, everybody started sweating. but Yeah. And then at the end of the game, everybody was shaking hands, like hugging each other. Like, man, that was a good game. And that was a good game. That was that was one of the last true, like, juggernaut game where two two teams that were so evenly matched.
00:42:33
Speaker
It would have been nice for him, for Rick to take one away from Saban, too. Yeah, I don't disagree with any of any of those things that you said. And of the three of those three games, that loss actually hurt me the most.
00:42:45
Speaker
Like that one stung the most. So, you know, agreed. All right, let's but Bobo would have had his national championship, too. Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point.
00:42:56
Speaker
that That whole narrative dies in 2012. Yeah. yeah yeah Anyway. All right. let's Let's go to John Michael D. um I think he's... That was a tough opener, Jim. It was. It was. All right. So John Michael D says that I... Jim jim somewhere is saying... Remember the last time we got a revenge game against Bama and went in natty.
00:43:17
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So cool. um that That was awesome. That was awesome but that And then he said, ah his little stitious angle requires me to request that whoever can acquire the combo of, of champions for the game, Nutter brothers and Buffalo trace do so.
00:43:33
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Um, I, that, that could definitely be arranged. Uh, I've got, I'll say this, that was a me, I think that my dad and I did in Indianapolis. I know we both have Buffalo trace. So all got to get is another voters.
00:43:46
Speaker
Um, I feel like, I feel like that should be easy to a choir gym. Yes. That could be arranged. We'll we'll do. We'll do. We'll have on hand. Uh, let's see, let's go to Blake Davis.
00:43:59
Speaker
What is your favorite sec championship win? Uh, he, he threw in his top three in no order. His were first one versus Arkansas in 2002 upset of LSU and Oh five. And then revenge on Auburn in 17. I think that's a pretty good, that's a pretty good list right there.
00:44:14
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That is a really good list. I've got some great stories about o two and O5. O2 is inappropriate, but O5 would probably be my favorite of all of them because I actually was at that game. So I sat in the LSU section.
00:44:33
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um i got yelled at all game long by some old old bastard LSU fan to sit down um because you couldn't tell me nothing, Jim.
00:44:44
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um um'm I'm just like envisioning 2005 JP being told to sit down thinking how that's going to go. Yeah. Treks. Oh, yeah. um I guess. I mean, i the only one of those that I was at was O2.
00:45:01
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That one was amazing. That was my, that was my, whatever whatever you call it, victory lap redshirt senior year or whatever. That's my extra semester.
00:45:12
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And, you know, that was the first time we ever went to the SEC championship game. We won it. I was on absolute cloud nine. It was with all of our, the the crew that we have still to this day, obviously pre-kids ah for all of us. as We were still in college, but, you know, Kim and i my sister, my brother-in-law and my parents, we ah we had six seats all together. we were They were great seats. We had like lower level, like four yard line. and i think we got them from...
00:45:41
Speaker
I still don't even know if this is true. They're like the people that bought tickets to the first SEC championship game could like keep renewing them until they stopped or something. I think we got it from, cause we got it. I know we got it from some Alabama people.
00:45:54
Speaker
So I, I think it's that one for me. I think it's that one for me. give them Um, Oh, go ahead. Did you have something? No, no. Yeah. I was going to say, I think, I think it's a nice segue into the next one because Chris Haddock at Dr. Dog 1996 just wanted us to show George Foster some love.
00:46:12
Speaker
So the, the, the tweet to solic solicit the listener questions was the George Foster sweeter than a Cinnabon gif that we have. Um, man, i think he was wanting you to tag him as if he wasn't a friend of the show.
00:46:26
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Hey, George, George friend of the show. He's been on here. What twice? Yeah. um He's been on here twice. ah 21, 22 year old me could not comprehend that. Like I would like sit on a panel on the stage next to George one time and like talk about Georgia football. That was, that was wild. So yeah, huge, huge fans of George Foster.
00:46:48
Speaker
Dude, they, to me, he's like, like he's like the left tackle of Georgia football, like in my head. Cause like he was the left tackle back then. The left tackle Emeritus. Yeah. Yeah. What do they call it? they call it? um I guess it is Emeritus, right?
00:47:02
Speaker
I think so. And like, i mean, that team. so I mean, up until these teams, right? Like that team was kind of the the gold standard for me of like what. that That was the team for a long time, but what I would measure teams up against. i mean, obviously now you're going to measure up against like 21 or 22, obviously. um But up until like even like 2012, you know, it's like, okay, I'm starting to see this team could is up there with the 2002 team. Yeah.
00:47:28
Speaker
Oh, let's go to Fletcher Proctor. This, ah this gets to your streak stuff. You had you had mentioned earlier, Don. Nice. So Fletcher says Kirby is three, you know, and rematches including two and O and rematches where he lost the first time he's one and O and rematches against Bama.
00:47:43
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It's science dogs by 21. do I do talk about some fun fact coming in from Fletcher. Yeah. From your lips to the script writers for, for the game.
00:47:55
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ah So let's see. So he's, so the three and O rematches two and O. Okay. So, that so what are, so what are the three we've obviously got the Alabama 2021 Auburn and 17.
00:48:08
Speaker
So regular season sec championship and then Texas last year. Um, while we're talking about Fletcher, shall we do a basketball, a basketball minute? I was about to say, are we doing the basketball minute?
00:48:20
Speaker
We need the basketball minute. Uh, so let's see. So last, since the last time we talked about basketball, I think cause we, we didn't do it last week.
Georgia Basketball Update
00:48:26
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Um, let's see. We had the, like the buzzer beater win over Xavier in Charleston and then lost in the finals of that tournament, I guess, to Clemson.
00:48:37
Speaker
And it was while watching that game that I learned that ah RJ Godfrey had transferred back from Georgia to Clemson. I had not realized that. Lost in that and over time, that was a bit of a bummer.
00:48:48
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But as we're talking right now, Georgia is, we're recording on Tuesday evening and Georgia is all over Florida State in basketball. so Giving them the business, huh?
00:49:00
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We are playing at Florida state ah this evening. don't know why my, my phone has like died and I've actually got the game on, on a screen next to me and it just went to a commercial, but we're up by like 30 points or something crazy like that.
00:49:13
Speaker
Oh wow. So they've extended it since we started recording. Yes. Yes. So and thank you. I think when we started, you were like, Georgia's up to two two scores. That's right. That's right. Two touchdowns in the podcast before the podcast. I did say Georgia's up by two touchdowns.
00:49:28
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ah Yeah. So, Hey, Georgia basketball is fun to watch. I mean, we're the, this team is scoring like crazy. And when they play the lower teams, we score like hundred points.
00:49:41
Speaker
It's kind of test. It is. It is definitely fun to watch these guys as a non basketball fan. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, don't know if you could make it out to the stag, uh, do so to see these guys, a lot of fun, got a lot of youth and energy out there.
00:49:57
Speaker
Um, keep, keep going through this. Uh, they can keep winning this non-conference, um, you know, set up nicely as we get in a get into conference play coming in here in January. They're bringing the fire, passionate energy, Jim. Dude, they are hundred percent. Absolutely.
00:50:12
Speaker
so All right, let's go to Herman Wood. ah who steps on Who steps up on the offensive offensive line to lead without Bobo? um I'll just rattle through all these. That was the first one. Is this the game the defense? Has it figured out from the opening kick? What would Munson say? Sorry, I know I'm asking a lot of you guys.
00:50:31
Speaker
know What do you think about leadership on the line? i Because I am kind of wondering, like, does it need to come from someone? Is it going to not be the center this week, you know?
00:50:42
Speaker
I mean, it's going to have to be someone like Freeling. Yeah. I mean, you mentioned you mentioned a couple of the guys. I mean, like Freeling and Morris have been around. They've been around a lot. Yeah. I mean, one of those guys is going have to step up. Like, it's just at at the end of the day, they're going to to figure it out.
00:51:06
Speaker
um okay At this point, we could say that we're painting we're paying these guys paying these guys a lot of money to figure it out. Yeah, yeah, for sure. um ah The next question was, the is this the game where the defense has has it figured out from the opening kick? i mean, i would I would actually argue that we did that last week, honestly.
00:51:24
Speaker
Felt like we pretty much, I mean, we never let Tech in the end zone. Almost got a safety on the first play of the game. We should have had a safety, bro. More so like more of that, please.
00:51:35
Speaker
More of that, please. If the defense comes out firing like that in this game, that would be incredible. Agreed. Agreed. Come out firing, getting pressure on everybody. um Freeling Morris, Ernest Green, like having those guys playing well from the offensive line standpoint.
00:51:56
Speaker
just Just hold serve and protect the ball, win the game. that's I mean, that's really what it comes down to. Yeah. And as far as what would Munson say, I mean, he he would say, hunger it down one more time.
00:52:10
Speaker
that's That's what I think he would say. Yeah. Are you kidding me? Got this this gunslinger Ty Simpson coming in town. Oh, yeah. Actually, you're right. Actually, all he would talk about is Drew Bobo being out help hurt, honestly.
00:52:26
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ah Speaking from experience there, riding around with him that one time. Yeah. What are we going to do? What are we going to do? What are we going to do? What we going to do?
00:52:41
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If you know, you know. um As we transition to the next question, ah just dude, this basketball game, Georgia is currently winning ninety five to fifty six over Florida State.
00:52:53
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That is insane. Love it. So much for ACC basketballs. Wow. Okay. ah Moving on. All right. Friend of the show, Tim Riley. ah hes He's got a simple one this week this week. Just tell me we win and why.
00:53:09
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Go Dawgs. Sorry, Carter. Buck fama.
00:53:14
Speaker
Buck fama. um we win because we don't turn the ball over and we hold serve on in the trenches yeah yeah and we do we do what we're good at keep it simple yep and uh trust the process yeah seriously all right one more kind of fireball
00:53:41
Speaker
The hug dog, Jason Huggins, checks in. He says, I like SEC championship games. Ring season, baby. JB, I feel like that's for you. That's the energy that you need. there's For this game after the opening of the podcast. I'm sorry, guys. um'm I'm jaded. I'm jaded from last season.
00:53:58
Speaker
Like, i Jim, I'll put this in perspective for you. I was walking through. So I did something like crazy. I haven't done this in a while. Like, they went to, took I took Camden to go to the movies the other day.
00:54:11
Speaker
think it was Saturday. Took Camden to go see um Zootopia 2. And then afterwards, we had time to kill before we had to go pick up her brother and sister. um And we decided to kill some time by going around. i said, let's go walk around the mall.
00:54:28
Speaker
Let's go walk around the mall. And what a sad experience that is. um But I ended up going through a col collegiate sports store. I said, Cam, let's go. We would walk through all the stores that she wanted to walk through. And I was like, let's walk through the collegiate store over here.
00:54:43
Speaker
They had SEC, 2024 SEC championship merchandise that was on clearance for like 10 bucks. And i just I just looked at that and I was just like, I was just in disgust.
00:54:55
Speaker
yeah Because it mattered so little that it's on clearance for 10 bucks. What are we What are we doing? what are we doing yeah uh also side note kids these days have no idea like what christmas was like with a with a with an amazing mall experience like bro did you say and did you say what mall you were at uh we went to cumberland because it's like right by where we live okay okay yeah i mean i we used i used to cumberland not cumberland um town center
00:55:30
Speaker
town center okay kind of song okay okay cool um but cumberland's the same thing mean it's the same was yeah so yes yeah i used i used used to work right by cumberland mall out of college um okay cool cool the one of the one of the malls i used to go to is like the mall and stranger things by the way but anyways um what mall is that Uh, wasn't it like Gwinnett?
00:55:57
Speaker
I think Gwinnett, I think, uh, yeah, I think Gwinnett place mall is where they filmed a bunch of that, whichever season was in the mall. It's season three, I think. Yeah, dude. I don't, yeah you know, kids these days will never understand like walking through KB toy store after you've just chowed down on like Chick-fil-A original, like original Chick-fil-A from the mall.
00:56:20
Speaker
Yeah. Like we used to be a proper country, Jim. I mean, off off the rails. used to have like your parents just like drop you off the mall and you go hang out. It was so amazing. Yeah. Yes. Yes. You'd go through, uh, you'd go through, what was the, what was the inappropriate store that had like all the like adult jokes?
00:56:37
Speaker
Spencer's Spencer's. That's what it was. Yeah. Oh man. That store so it still exists by the way. Good times. Good times. Okay. she's like This new store, this new store popped up and you're like, what is American Eagle?
00:56:52
Speaker
but yeah Seriously. ah All right, Jason, we're gonna we're going to answer your question. He said, what is more annoying, Bama's superiority complex or today's coaching carousel?
Coaching Carousel & Playoffs Speculation
00:57:05
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coaching carousel 100 yeah i i agree i still i is this where we talk about the nonsense that's happened over the last two weeks yeah we could do that um i think the calendar i'll say again i think the calendar needs to change um i think all this off-season stuff needs to happen in the off-season and i think uh mean, I don't blame the schools with the way the calendar is set up right now. You're trying to get a coach in place before signing day. So I get that, but the season is still going on. And then that makes all kinds of problems for guys wanting to go into the portal when the portal isn't open yet, but they're declaring for the portal and all that kind of stuff. So it's like, that's where I do feel like high school signing day, go back to February when the season is over.
00:57:50
Speaker
Um, and then do the portal after that. Like those two things need to be in, like in succession, like not, not all at the same time. So I don't know, get off my lawn, I guess, but that's, that's how I feel.
00:58:02
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Yeah. Get off my lawn about all of it. Kids leaving, coaches leaving. like everybody's everybody's a Everybody's a mercenary at this point.
00:58:13
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, so we're already going to have Ole Miss in the playoff without their coach because he left. um You've got the Tulane head coach is going to Florida.
00:58:25
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If Tulane wins the American conference championship game over North Texas, they're going to the playoff. Um, I don't know if he's going to still coach the playoff or not. Um, I pretty sure isn't James Madison's coach being mentioned to go somewhere as well. Um, they could also get in, in the crazy scenario. Like if Duke wins the ACC championship, the ACC could get left out, um, And we could have the North Texas Tulane winner in the playoff plus the James Madison ah plus James Madison in the playoff. I mean, we could have like three teams in the playoff with lame duck head coaches.
00:58:59
Speaker
It would just be great. It's crazy. It's crazy. Like that shouldn't, that should not be the case. All it is is a sign, Jim, that the playoff is too big. We have too many teams in the playoff. Take that, go back let's Go back. to Let's go backwards.
00:59:13
Speaker
Let's shrink the playoff. Shrink the conferences. but Yeah. Okay. I'm with you there. I mean, it's just the reality ah it's just the reality of where we're at Just just how insane...
00:59:25
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everything is I mean, you've got Penn State that was the earliest, like they threw their hat in the ring the earliest out of anyone, fired a coach that had been a fairly consistent 10-game winner. um And he almost immediately goes and and gets a job like right down the road at Virginia Tech and has made waves instantly at Virginia Tech by effectively taking I think I've seen like three or four guys flip from Penn State to Virginia Tech.
00:59:58
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like Like, congratulations, you fired your coach and you just completely tanked your recruiting class. Yeah. Yeah. I, I think Franklin was a great hire for Virginia virginia Tech, by the way.
01:00:09
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So my two cents. think it's a good hire, but I don't think he's going to get them where they want to go, but I think it's going to be like a situation like Lane Kiffin. Like he got hired at a school with a, with a very passionate fan base.
01:00:22
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He's got a winning pedigree. He can recruit. and and he hasn't won he hasn't won diddly spot ever yeah so like it' it's it's it's tailor-made for a situation it's like the you know i guess are they in the acc or the big time don't even remember at this point acc um he's yeah they're the they're the acc version of old miss yeah i mean if can he could probably retire there if he wanted to Yeah. I mean, if he goes, if he goes there though, if he does at Virginia tech, what Lane given did Ole Miss and then stays like the little statue.
01:00:57
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Yeah. yeah So I'll be like Frank Beamer who. really Yeah. um Okay. is Jason also said, if you, if you were negotiating your contract to be a head coach in the sec, what perks would you insist upon?
01:01:12
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um He added his, he said, by the way, I'd and i'd negotiate more more than a few golf club memberships, personal vehicles, plus a driver and unlimited merch budget, a skybox for my friends and a promise to never have to endorse products. I didn't believe in.
01:01:25
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Oh, and a kick-ass tailgate spot. Sorry, Carter. um Yeah. I mean, all of that sounds pretty amazing for me. It does. um I mean, I would, well, I guess it's just perks. I was going to say I've got to have the monster monsters buyout because all coaches have that. I'm not sure that that counts as a perk though.
01:01:47
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yeah Yeah, I think it's like, like wasn't it like Spurrier took the South Carolina job because it came with a membership to, guess, a guest national or something like that? I've definitely heard that said. I don't know if that's true, but I have heard that too.
01:02:00
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Yeah. Yeah. Like something something along those lines would be something that that I would be looking for, for sure. ah ah definitely think the but cars and driver, i would also extend that to private and jet, personal helicopter.
01:02:16
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i mean, Kirby's got his Kirby copter. Yeah. Um, what does unlimited merch like clarifying question for Jason?
01:02:26
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We're going to answer Uh, like, like non, non Nike. When he's saying unlimited, unlimited merch budget, is that like for yourself or is that like to, to bring in the cool merch? Because I also want to have a, I want to have a hand in the school's merch.
01:02:41
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Like I want to have a say on like this, this stuff. The perk of the job is that you get to create your own merch. I mean, don't know that I need to like create it but I do. I would like to be involved in the approval process. I'd like to hire a hunter.
01:02:54
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yeah Exactly. Exactly. Ooh. Yes. and yeah that I don't know if that's a perk, but my friend Hunter is coming and he's doing the uniform selection and like uniform police just lost their mind.
01:03:06
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I would say i could pick i could pick the uniform I could pick the uniform stuff, which I guess that they can do that anyway. anyway I'm going to ask you a different question.
01:03:18
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Everything that he he listed is like, I feel like those are those are really solid solid answers. Maybe maybe throw out some some bourbon some bourbon options in there. like guaranteed every year you get a barrel of one Oh seven kind of stuff.
01:03:37
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That's good. I like that. Uh, also all my, I mean like I'm just in my mind, like I am just the head coach at Georgia. So I'm trying to think like, what are my Georgia things? Um, but yeah, I guess the national membership, if that's possible, I guess we're getting to say whatever it is. That's definitely on there.
01:03:52
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Yeah. The farm. ah fuck Uh, amazing. All right, Jason, that was a good one. Enjoyed both of those. I appreciate you.
01:04:03
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All right, now we have one more.
01:04:07
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Oh, my God! My God, a freshman. Trying to put glasses on. 90-80. Who, brother?
01:04:23
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It is time for Coach Chilbill's over-unders SEC Championship Edition. um I do still maintain the slight lead. I will go first.
01:04:36
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So the first one we have, starting out with the offense, over-under 195 passing yards for Gunnar Stockton. oh I'm like, I'm going to go first. and I'm sitting here thinking, I'm gonna go over.
01:04:52
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Hmm. I'm going to go under. Okay. um Second one. Okay. Second one is over to you. Over under rushing yards for Nate Frazier set at 85. I'm going to go over.
01:05:10
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Okay. I think I am too. I'm going to go over. And then over under no four and a half catches for Zachariah branch. And I'm going to say over there. going to go over on that one as well.
01:05:22
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Okay. Okay. Switching to the to the defense and over to you. First one, over under 275 passing yards for Ty Simpson.
01:05:34
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I'm going to under. Okay. ah I am as well. um And then over under 0.5 interceptions for the Georgia defense. I'm going to go over. I'm going to go over on that one as well, Jim.
01:05:48
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Okay. And then over under 13 and a half first half points allowed by the Georgia defense allowed by the defense. Uh, I'm to go under. Okay.
01:06:00
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Okay. Same. And then the special teams over under, ah is field goal attempts by Peyton Woodring over under two and a half.
01:06:11
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I'm going under. Hmm. I'm also going to go under Jim. Okay. Okay. ah And then the last one, just, just a bonus, not an over under, but what's your favorite moment from the season season so far, John?
01:06:26
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I got to go back to that video that they posted to the parents, talking to the players. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. Okay. Cause I think it was a catalyst for what we've seen happen since they showed that.
01:06:39
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Yep. Yep. Okay. That's an excellent one. That was the turning point in the season. Yeah, that's that's really good. I like that. um I I'm going to go with the onside kick. That was amazing. o ah That was like a we will not be hunted kind of moment. We're just going to take over this game. And we got the the first ever double death march. So phenomenal. It was it was definitely slinging, slinging balls around.
01:07:04
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Yeah. Give us yet another gift of Kirby doing that. I still can't believe that. ah Too good. Cool. All right, Coach. look Definitely look forward to the the Sunday text message with the openers update. they Thanks, as always, for sending those in and checking them for us.
01:07:21
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Amen. All right, JP, time for the predictions for this SEC championship rematch with Bama.
SEC Championship Predictions & College Football Chaos
01:07:27
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um The spread is, honestly, I'm kind of surprised at this. The spread is Georgia favored by two and a half. Dogs are favored two and a half, over under 47 and a half.
01:07:37
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That gives you an implied score of Georgia 25 Alabama shark predicted score is, the odd shark predicted score is Georgia 33.9, Alabama they've got an Alabama win Parker Fleming's CFB graphs has Georgia to Alabama he's got less than half a point.
01:08:01
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differential between these two teams and then our, my got a podcast scoring impact predicts Georgia 23.98 to Alabama, there has as being nail biter.
01:08:11
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man everything out there has as being a nail bitter um The toss-up, even though when predicted the matchup predictor on the ESPN has it 51% to Alabama.
01:08:25
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So a slight edge on Alabama from an ESPN analytics standpoint. A slight edge to Georgia from a Vegas standpoint. Yeah. Something's got to give.
01:08:36
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Something's got to give, friend. something's gotta give my friend Um, I guess I can go first. Like I, i just feel like, man, like we had them at home and we dropped the ball.
01:08:49
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Um, this time we don't dogs win 24, 23. twenty four twenty three ooh i andt I don't know what I like that. but i mean, I like the win, but the scoreline is just crazy. i mean Yeah. a One point victory. woof Yeah, I know. um Give me 27-24 Georgia in this one, Jim.
01:09:11
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Yeah, that's I think it's going to be a tight win between two pretty evenly matched teams, frankly, and kind of like the first game. Like I said, protect the ball, win the game. Yep. Protect the ball, win the game. And I wish I could say that you'd end into Alabama season, but having a three loss team into the CFP seems kind of crazy to me.
01:09:32
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Yeah. i so I mean, I could totally be wrong. I just, I feel like it's that whole, like in the 12 team, they're trying to do this. Like you don't like, don't punish the team for making it to the conference championship game when they were ranked in it.
01:09:47
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I mean, and frankly, like Alabama is the number one seed in this thing. Like if there were no, if there were no championship game, um this would be, ah they were theyre like regular season champions, I guess, so to speak.
01:10:00
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So don't know. Regular season champions of the SEC. Oh, of the SEC. Yeah. Yeah. But they have two losses. And one of those losses is to an absolutely team.
01:10:12
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I get it. I get it. I just, I, you know what? Here's what I'm going to say. I hope we get to find out whether they make it in or not after a loss.
01:10:23
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I'll say that. Um, there we go. Yeah, dude. I don't know. I, it is, it is still wild. Like, um, I w we can do coaches picks, but dude, five sec championships in a row for the, for us and eight of nine is also just wild.
01:10:39
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Wild. When the whole thing. Yep. Yep. Okay. So let's do this. Cause I think like when we can kind of see what are the pick them games, what that would like do for the playoff as well. So first one is the, the big 12 championship game. These are all Saturday, by the way. So the big 12 championship game on Saturday, 12 o'clock on ABC, you've got number 11 BYU faces. Number four, Texas tech, Texas tech, 12 and a half point favorite.
01:11:08
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um I'm going to take Texas tech. that Is that 11 a.m. m local time? I believe so. Yeah. Wow. but An 11 a.m. m local time conference championship game. if Absolutely brutal.
01:11:21
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ah um I like BYU in this game, Jim. Okay. Okay. give me give me ah Give me an invigorated Sataki. The coach's name is Sataki, right?
01:11:33
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I believe so. Yes. So they, I mean, BYU is one of those teams that just went through this whole, like our coaches getting, getting poached by Penn state and like the entire Mormon church basically like moved, moved heaven and earth and that got him to stay.
01:11:51
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Yeah. Yeah. I did see that. um Also, I will say this too. BYU wins this game. Then they're basically, I think taking somebody's spot. So if you you, you know, if you want, I don't want Alabama, if I don't want Alabama in, I'm going to need to be rooting for BYU.
01:12:07
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Yeah. I would say yes. Cause I, cause Texas tech, I don't think falls out at a number four. If they lose, I think they're still in and then BYU, I think moves up and takes a spot. So yeah. Give me BYU then, Jim.
01:12:19
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All right. And I think, does that mean that if Virginia wins, then some they could be taking someone else's spot, too? So they're so low. Like, they're going to be taking someone's spot. the the The thing about this one is, this is where if Virginia, if Duke wins, the ACC could get left out altogether.
01:12:38
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Because eight Duke has five losses. um so the So Virginia has to win to get in. So they would they would be, honestly, they'd probably be the 11 seed. um Because you're going to have the other, you have like the group of five champion would get in most likely the winner of Tulane, North Texas. But if Duke wins this game, then that's where you you need like the the fourth and fifth highest ranked conference champions could be the champion from the American and the champion from the Sun Belt.
01:13:09
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So if you want some major chaos and to see the ACC get completely left out of the playoff, you want Duke to win. Because Duke duke is not even ranked. And like I said, they've got five losses. I don't see them jumping up over all those other teams.
01:13:21
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Amazing. Amazing. ah The Trust Fund Championship. um Let's see here. Did you go last time? Did you first on the last one? I did. You did. right, so i'll go first. Give me Duke. Screw it. Okay. That's kind of how I feel.
01:13:37
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Give me chaos. That's where I'm going. um and then Absolutely wild. Absolutely wild. Like all the Miami, all the Clemson, all of the Florida State. Yeah, because that's...
01:13:50
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Yeah. And I'm going to pull up the playoff rankings really quick. um Miami right now is sitting at 12. So again, like if you're going to have two, i think it, and we're looking at like two teams probably getting in because of being the fourth highest ranked and fifth highest ranked conference champions. That means you have to be, you have to be ranked number like no lower than 10 to get in as an at-large.
01:14:13
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So that also keeps Miami out of the playoff. Jim, the year is 2001. Miami has just its most recent national championship.
01:14:26
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And you tell them in 2025 that Duke and Virginia are playing for the ACC championship. Yeah, and they're ranked higher. two thousand mind The 2,000 mind cannot compromise cannot comprehend. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Completely. That is absolutely wild.
01:14:42
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um And then the the last one, 8 p.m. on Fox, so same time as the ACC championship game. Number two, Indiana against number one, in Ohio State. um This one is in Indianapolis where we played the Natty against Alabama. Ohio State is favored by four and a half.
01:14:58
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um And I'm going to take Ohio State. I think the Indiana. I'm going to take Ohio state as well. i think, uh, Stignetti gets exposed and this one, uh, could potentially be a, uh, a Heisman situation, right?
01:15:14
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, i think, um, both San and Mendoza are definitely like up there. So. Yep. Could be for sure. So not on the list, but let me tell you the other situation, John, the other thing for your rooting interests. I know you're a fan of the chaos. The other thing that you want is for James Madison to defeat Troy in the Sunbelt Conference Championship game because that would get them ranked highly. So if Duke wins and James Madison... Who to defeat
01:15:48
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James Madison, JMU. Because if if Duke beats Virginia, got it then you can end it with James Madison in the playoff as a 12 seed, as a Sunbelt Conference Champion.
01:15:59
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Amazing. Yeah, be wild. Chaos. Give me chaos, Jim. Give me chaos and Texas and Alabama staying home. Yeah, that sounds delicious.
01:16:11
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And Vanderbilt, for that matter. I don't know. whoever whoever like leave it Leave everybody out. me
01:16:18
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Right, right. Those teams are were so low when it came out tonight, i don't I don't see how they could jump up, but who knows. Texas is at 13, Vanderbilt's at 14, so I don't see a path in for them based on how they ranked them this week.
01:16:33
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But we'll see. Who knows? Yep. Well, SEC championship birth number five in a row for the dogs. Eight to nine crazy times.
01:16:43
Speaker
Did you do the bean dip earlier this season for the VAM game? I did not because we were there. So, no, we did not have bean dip. We will be doing bean dip on Saturday.
01:16:55
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Okay. For, yeah, for home viewing games. Yeah. so we are not going. So we'll be here at home. We will have the, the bean dip. We'll be going, we'll be going at the house. All right.
01:17:06
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Bring the bean dip, Jim. And bring the, bring the fire passion and energy. 100%. i present I will be watching. I'll be running around. It's sports day. where We got basketball season kicking off here. so um Anyway, i'll be I'll be running around during the day. and yeah well We'll be rooting for the red and black and hopefully seeing some Bama tears. Delicious, delicious Bama tears.
01:17:35
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Amen to that. Go Dawgs, Jim. Go Dawgs.