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Sugar Bowl Review | 2025 Georgia Football
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Jim and John review Georgia’s 39-34 loss to Ole Miss in the Sugar Bowl.
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Introduction and Episode Overview
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also saw DJ Shockley, which Carter was like, dude, you know, everybody. yeah I know some people, I know some people. were Were you like, well, I do host a Georgia football podcast. ah
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Welcome to my got a podcast. I'm Jim Wood. In this episode, John Powell and I review Georgia's 39 to 34 loss to the Ole Miss rebels in the sugar bowl. We talk about our experiences on new year's day and what stood out to us during the game.
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00:00:45
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Now, let's join the conversation in progress.
Georgia Bulldogs' Performance Analysis
00:00:51
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Ugh.
00:00:57
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I need, I need, this, this, this requires, this requires a drink, Jim. yeah Okay. I've just got water. um I'm not even going to make the just as we predicted joke um because the ironic thing is the Georgia Bulldogs scored about what we thought we would score.
00:01:15
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um So that part, I think we nailed. And i think part of the frustrating or not frustrating, I think part of the reality is, uh,
00:01:25
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That was an all-time performance by Trinidad Chambliss. He went absolutely nuts. And i will tip yeahcap i will tip my cap to him.
00:01:37
Speaker
I tip my cap to him in the fourth quarter. I don't know that I necessarily tip my cap to him prior to the fourth quarter because... Of all the quarters for a Georgia team to lose, the fourth quarter is not the one that you you think that we completely break down. But there are definitely there were definitely symptoms all throughout.
00:01:56
Speaker
Now, that said, the kid did ball out. But, like, you know, I know that you and I have been on text threads and beleaguered at ourselves, like... that we should have been in this game. We should have won this game, all that kind of stuff. But like the reality is is that they had so many drops in the first half that had those drops not occurred, like I have a feeling that this might have been a problem sooner than it was even in the fourth quarter.
00:02:25
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um because they played about as bad as you could probably have played against us in the first half. And probably, i don't know, like, you know, we' we're hard to kill. and you know, they kind of always say like in baseball, you know, you live by the home run, you die by the home run. Well, you you live by being hard to kill and you die by being hard to kill.
00:02:48
Speaker
Yeah, no, it's that's true. I mean, yeah. And a lot of it is unforced. A lot of it is was unforced errors on our part. A lot of it was just mental breakdowns.
Impact of Penalties and Coaching Decisions
00:02:58
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I don't know like i don't know if you've seen some of the some of the videos, like Davin Bellamy had probably one of the best breakdowns with D-Bake.
00:03:09
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and Had probably one of the best breakdowns of that final play or that final scrimmage play, I guess I should say. Yeah. Yeah, man. There's just a lot of stuff that you just don't expect to to happen. But what I will say is the first person that that Kirby went out and immediately got was a safety in the portal.
00:03:28
Speaker
yeah ah Yeah. I will say um that targeting penalty was costly. I mean, period. So, and I don't, I know we texted back and forth. Like it didn't surprise me at all when that flag was thrown And I know we were you and were texting back and forth, and you like, it's not targeting. And i was like, yeah, it is. And then I ended up ultimately agreeing with you.
00:03:50
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i mean, whatever it is, what it it is, like you got to deal with it. But it definitely hurt us. We definitely missed him. was targeting call. so It is what it is. ah poor Poor situation with the the way that the defense was was setting up.
00:04:08
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's funny. Like you mentioned the things that Ole Miss was doing first half. Like we, we had been kind of, we've been talking about like, what's going to be the difference, like Pete Golding versus Lane. It was funny early on. I know Hunter was texting us. Um, like Lane would have gone for it on fourth down when, uh, they kicked those, those first couple of long field goals. Um,
00:04:32
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Um, and I kept kind of like waiting for like the new head coach moment to happen.
Georgia's Missed Opportunities and Game Dynamics
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And I felt like it did late in the first half when they ran out of time, you know, when they, they marched down the field, they're in field goal range and then receiver doesn't go to bounds half ends. So at that point I'm like, Oh, that was it. Like that was the rookie coach moment.
00:04:49
Speaker
And we're going to kind of be off to the races from there. And obviously that was not the case. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it happened. it absolutely happened ah at the end of the half because we were I ended up sitting next to a guy who had been going to all Miss games and had just gotten back from the, you know, the their first round game. And he was an Ole Miss fan, Ole Miss alumni, all that kind of stuff. And so um he and I were he was super cool. All the other Ole Miss fans that I encountered were complete assholes. Sorry, Carter.
00:05:20
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But he was a cool Ole Miss fan. And we were talking the whole game, and, like, i was baffled by pete Golding not calling timeouts.
00:05:32
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Particularly after our third down play, right before the halftime when we went, and I guess this might be a good caveat to just talk about the ineptitude that was the middle eight um that we have kind of harped on. And, you know, but it was a good omen when we won the coin toss and deferred to the second half because... That's like what we do. We, we win the coin toss and we defer the second half and we double up the scores, um you know, going into halftime. That's, that's like the Kirby smart staple strategy, right? Like try to put points on the board before halftime, go back in, get the ball back and immediately score another, another, another, another touchdown or or get points on the board. Um, so Ole Miss to
Turning Point and Momentum Shift
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not call a timeout when we went three plays and out and just allowed us to just burn clock, um, kind of saved us in the end, in my opinion, um, cause Golding had timeouts that were available to him. Um, and I think that had he used that timeout, uh, on third down to save 30 seconds, they probably would have been able to get off another field goal, um, and steal some points away from us in a situation that, um,
00:06:40
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Frankly, they they should not have been able to do um because, I mean, it's easy to sit here and to lay the game completely on the goal line situation at the end of the game. Mm-hmm.
00:06:55
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And I know that you've been, you and John have have have talked about the, you know, the defense could have could have made stops, which which they could have, but I will submit a couple of key points in the middle eight and in the, you know, second, in the second quarter and the third quarter that could have helped the situation even more had the offense been more productive.
00:07:19
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So it's 12-14. We just scored a touchdown to go up 14-12. Ole Miss fumbles. We get the scoop and score. Now we're up 21-12.
00:07:32
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you like uga's opera You like UGA's odds. If you're a Georgia fan, like we were I was completely ecstatic. I was... calm inside because I knew that this was not necessarily over, but it felt over in the stadium. Their their fans were dead.
00:07:50
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um they're The guy that was sitting next to me, I think, had had left to go to the bathroom to slit his wrists. um
Critique of Strategic Decisions
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The guy that he was high-fiving the whole time behind us was was was very quiet at that point. um and so like Things just looked really bleak from the Ole Miss side of things. That was also when I injured my Achilles, by the way. I jumped whenever it was running. and but when hey I landed awkwardly on my Achilles. Sorry, continue. So we followed up the scoop and score.
00:08:19
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with a So that was a defensive that was a defensive stop, right? a defensive points, defensive stop. We followed up that performance with a three and out. They punted the ball and only took 46 seconds left off the clock that left us with time left on the clock to get another score going into halftime, just like what we were talking about, where if you put points on the board at that point, I think the game gets really beyond Ole Miss and they have to start chasing the game and chasing points even more.
00:08:49
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yeah um speaking Speaking of after after they kicked two field goals and then they scored touchdown, tried to go for two. I thought that was hilarious. Yeah. i think you check you I believe you texted me, Ole Miss is chasing points, Jim, probably. so who That's what it felt like. yeah That's what it felt like in the stadium. Like, oh, we went for two way too early.
00:09:10
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right um But then we followed that up with a three and out. And that gate that led to the situation where had Golding played his the cards right, they probably could have had another field goal because that kid could ah could have hit a field goal from Bourbon Street.
00:09:24
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Yeah, that kid. was unbelievable. as Yeah. And then you follow that up. So so we we kind of saved points there. Sure. We're still up 21-12. You still like our odds. You still like our opportunity. We know we're getting the ball back. And I'm like, okay, it's fine.
00:09:40
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We're going to come back. We're going put some points on the board and put this game beyond them. Which at that point in the third quarter, you go down, you take a four or five minute drive, something along those lines, and and put some points on the board. You really are talking about there's not enough time left for Ole Miss to get something going. We go three and out and give them ball the ball immediately back. So at that point, you're like, ah, crap.
00:10:02
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But then we follow it up with another defensive performance
Chaotic Game Ending and Reflections
00:10:06
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where they get ended up turning the ball over on downs. You want to talk about the soul leaving the building for everyone on the Ole Miss side, the powder blue side, that was a moment.
00:10:17
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Like, so the defense has now generated points, caused two punts and a turnover on downs effectively. um and they and they got out of the half without getting scored on.
00:10:30
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So, i I mean, like, yeah, the defense could make a stop at the end, but what about all the times that they did get a stop earlier in the game and the offense was completely neutered?
00:10:42
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And we missed a field goal. Then Ole Miss comes back and scores a touchdown. All of a sudden, that missed field goal is really when – that missed field goal, I think, is really when things started to turn for Georgia because the stadium got really loud after that. They come down 63 yards in seven plays and score touchdown.
00:11:02
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You know, we scored a field goal, and we're still winning that game. So you go into the fourth quarter, and we're like, all right, we're in this thing. But then think the wheels kind of fell off in the fourth
Personal Experiences in New Orleans
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quarter for us.
00:11:12
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Both from a defensive and an offensive standpoint. So I want to rewind to back to how we got to what you were talking about. Cause this is kind of what we were talking about when we said like, should we, let's just record. Like, I think we said that like five times before we record.
00:11:25
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um So, you know, or early on, right. It's like, you, you kind of, you start the game. We, what we trade punts, they get a field goal. We punt again, they get a field goal.
00:11:37
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Then like our offense kind of woke up. Although I will say it was kind of weird. Like on that first drive, we start out doing like the normal Georgia things, right? Like you're like Gunnar's rolling out, you're hitting the tight ends, like on these short passes and we're moving the ball. And then we took like a deep shot on the first down and it like yeah everything just felt off schedule. I'm like, what are we doing?
00:11:56
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That's not what we do. So we, it's like, we changed something. So we tried to force this deep shot that wasn't there. I didn't like that. I
Podcast Reflections and Future Plans
00:12:03
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agree. Okay. So I didn't like that. So then, then it's like, at some point we realized, oh my gosh, we have Nate Frazier and he can run all over them. And so I don't know why it took us so long to figure that out.
00:12:15
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So we do, we start moving the ball. We score, you know, cool. Great. Um, On the drive where we scored the second touchdown, the so the play... Actually, sorry, I have to mention this. Dude, the fact that Gunnar Stockton was like swimming in the end zone after his first touchdown, I feel like... like that I so wish we had won this game, obviously for more than just this, but...
00:12:36
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Man, that was, you know, it's like now that happened in a loss. And so it'll be forgotten, but dude, like dove into the end zone and then was like, I can, like he was swimming. So anyways, I'll move on. um The second touchdown drive though. So the play before the touchdown was a play where what I think was targeting, but I understand why it didn't end up getting called. I think just based on mechanics of the game, but me Gunner gets absolutely rocked rolling out to the left, dumps it off to cash Jones and he gets, he gets crushed. I mean, absolutely crushed. Like I can't believe he it's shocking that he got back up.
00:13:08
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Um, but we know Gunner, we know what his, you know, I don't know what he's made of. And so I guess it shouldn't really be surprising. Um, So he like, but then he runs up to the line, you know, quick call QB sneak and and scores.
00:13:22
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My, I, I wonder if we hadn't done that, which I'm not saying he shouldn't have done that, but I do wonder if we had taken our time, would they have stopped and reviewed the play for targeting? I'm not sure who knows. um But like, right. So after that though, is what we're talking about of when the offense changed. And where we started doing, having all these runs of three and outs, right? So we scored the touchdown. I believe it was the next drive was when they fumbled. We run it back. And then we only had one, the ball one more time in the first half. And that was three and out in the first drive of the second half, three and out. And we've also passed back and forth to each other. don't know if everyone has seen it. There is a play after Gunnar touchdowns. clock cleaned by the Ole Miss, I don't know, safety, like where he actually went up to the, to the left guard to take this nap.
00:14:06
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um And then Nate Frazier actually walked up, walked up to Gunner, tapped on him and pointed out to him like, Hey, you're not behind the center. ah Malachi Tolliver is over there. And that's kind of funny. Gunner like of turns around, like points to him, like, thanks. um I'm not sure Gunner was okay.
00:14:23
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Honestly, that's my like conspiracy theory. don't know if that's a conspiracy theory. i mean, he had to have been at minimum like woozy or something, you know, like, so I, what I would love for, this is the kind of stuff that like, I don't have the stats. This is like a sec stat cat or something. Maybe Josh could look into this. Like, did the concepts change significantly after that hit or what? Cause I don't know. Like the output definitely changed.
00:14:48
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I feel like that's a Graham coffee kind of analysis. Insiders, inside sources that might be able to shed some light on to what's going on behind the scenes. But I mean, it's hard to it's hard to not question what's going on there.
00:15:04
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um Particularly given the fact that kind of along those same lines, there are some other other videos that that I've seen that I know that i was texting you and John and Josh.
00:15:16
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ah just Just pain videos of... our guys being open downfield and Gunner just not being able to pull the trigger or not seeing it or just feeling pressure, which frankly is, is also fair.
00:15:32
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The offensive line was getting pushed around quite a bit. Gunner was being forced to make some quick decisions, but I do still think that there was time for him to make some of these throws and maybe he wasn't physically able to, I don't know.
00:15:45
Speaker
yeah, things changed and then nate frazier got hurt which this game doesn't count anymore guys because our best one of our best players got hurt yeah um and yeah i mean when nate got hurt and we couldn't and i i don't know man i'm getting i'm i'm swinging back into the it's the offense um that's okay that's okay i mean like here's the thing i know my i know it like just not everyone listening doesn't have the insight of all the texts been sitting back for and Because I think my my harp has been it's not just the offense, but I but that I don't mean like when I say that it's not to like excuse things that the offense like didn't complete on, like didn't finish the drill, didn't punch it in at the end. I have major issues with the philosophy and the way we handled the goal to go, which we can get into that, too. So, like, I get it. I just my one thing, my my harp is like, don't just be mad at the offense. Like, I think the to me, the reality is we lost all three phases of the game.
00:16:41
Speaker
We did. So we lost all three phases of the game in the end. We missed field goals. We were inept on offense when it mattered. And also when it mattered, we couldn't get a stop.
00:16:54
Speaker
um That's, that's really the period end of story. And I think that it's going to be one of those situations that's going to just kind of echo, echo in eternity that last time.
00:17:06
Speaker
That field goal at the end for us is going to just live in eternity, in infamy in the Georgia fan mindset. I know it may be the origin story for Carter's hatred of Ole Miss because, like I said, they were absolutely – I mean, I'm talking, like, in the stadium, walking around New Orleans.
00:17:26
Speaker
I can't tell you how many birds Carter got shot. i can't tell you how many, like, F Georgia fans and – just absolutely acting like they were 1990s or 2006, 2007 Florida fans. um That was my experience in the stadium with the exception of the guy that was sitting next to me.
00:17:46
Speaker
that was in our That was definitely our experience leading up to the game. And that was our for sure our experience leaving the game. um and It definitely was it definitely was ah subpar, suboptimal, as you like to say.
00:18:00
Speaker
um But yeah, man, the the offense just, we gave them life. We gave them life when they did not deserve it. um I mean, when we were up 21 to 12 and we're getting the ball back at the end of half and we knew that we were getting the ball after halftime, I mean, part of me was like the routes the route's on. like Yeah, but I mean it was it was it was that you're right dude it mean, it was there for the taking. It was there for the taking. And then, but on your point, not a but,
00:18:29
Speaker
And on your point of the missed field goal was a turning point. I mean, it literally was, we missed that field goal and then Ole Miss's next three drives, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. i mean, absolutely turn the game around. And then you can't, we can't leave out the rush, the full punt team off the field offense on, and then snap it when we're now, and we now know we weren't supposed to snap it. Like, and that yeah so that right there is like frustrating. And Kirby said it's on the coaches. And again, like,
00:18:59
Speaker
we should have a massive coaching advantage with our coaching staff over a staff that has been cobbled together to you know, finish out a season. And i think Kirby said we got out coached. Like those are his words, not mine.
00:19:12
Speaker
You know, like, don't know. That's, that's hard bill to swallow. Yeah, that is that is definitely a hard pill to swallow. That said, there was something that ah I heard ah Jake Fromm and Drew Butler talking about in relation to the coaching situation on the Ole Miss sideline.
00:19:32
Speaker
ah What they were saying was that there was a guy, I can't remember the guy's name, but he used to be the head coach for the New York Giants. um John something or other, or Joe something or other. i can't remember who it was.
00:19:45
Speaker
They mentioned on the... I obviously wasn't watching the broadcast and didn't notice it on the... I, in vain, tried to quickly re-watch it before going to bed that night and just turned it off. Just turned it off. They apparently...
00:19:59
Speaker
they apparently said They apparently said that this guy was was the guy that talked to the refs. So, like, there was somebody on the Ole Miss staff that was dealing with the refs and dealing with in-game, like, for lack of a better for lack of a bitter description, and they were dealing with the operations. Yeah.
00:20:19
Speaker
If you're in a church church world, there's like the executive pastor, and then you had ah you know the the the main pastor that handles all of the actual faith-based preaching day-to-day, all that kind of stuff. But then there's a guy behind the scenes that handles all the admin type stuff, the executive pastor. This guy was like the executive pastor dealing with a lot of the the administrative coaching type things.
00:20:41
Speaker
um And I can't remember who it was, but Jake Fromm said that he used to he was he was a very good coach, you know very solid, and basically like highlighted the importance of ah him as a coach when he was ah in the NFL.
00:20:58
Speaker
So I thought that was interesting from how they approached the delineation of duties and all those kinds of things. That is interesting. It is. Yeah, to I mean, to say you got outcoached by a staff that's missing key components to their their coaching staff, everybody's doing their first first round you know situation, um a star player who's by and large still hurt, which when they when they fumbled the ball in the scoop and score, like there was questions around Ole Miss fans on whether or not he was going to even play anymore.
00:21:30
Speaker
Because they all knew that he was hurt and the shoulder his shoulder injury is directly where he got hit. But he ended up having more carries than any of our running backs. so yeah And to your point about like you know we we decided that we had a Nate Frazier that we could use, um that was something that the Ole Miss fans were ah that were around us, that was something that they were talking about. They were like, I don't understand why you guys aren't running it every play because that's literally what we're awful at.
00:21:59
Speaker
is stopping the run. Yeah. and we, and we came out to start the game all like there were no runs on our first drive, zero runs. um And then once we figured out, Oh, we can run, we did. And then it was like, we almost overdid it. Cause like for, ah for a while, the run like stopped working. And then by the end it was working again. i don't know. It was just a weird, it was a weird game. I mean, i think part of it is that part of it is that Nate fraser can't carry the ball.
00:22:25
Speaker
30 times. We're missing a backup running back, which you know which which has been Chauncey Bowens, which Chauncey played in this game. He's a shell of the player that he was earlier in the season.
00:22:39
Speaker
um You also can't discount the fact that Maybe some of our having watched having watched Alabama get absolutely worked along the offensive line, um along the defensive line, by that that that that to me was just maybe maybe our maybe our confidence in our in our new center. um um I'm drawing a blank on kid's Tolliver. Tolliver.
00:23:07
Speaker
Our confidence on Toliver when Bobo was still not able to play, like maybe that was misplaced because of how awful Alabama seems to be playing right now. um okay ah dude it wasn't for the offensive line, particularly him.
00:23:23
Speaker
it wasn't the best game for the ah offensive line particular particularly him Yeah. So you just reminded me of something of like, like there was a moment during the Rose bowl where I kind of had like a realization, like like an Oh crap moment. So, i mean, Indiana is just absolutely working Alabama. And I texted my dad and just said, like, I can't believe like what I'm seeing on my TV. And I said,
00:23:47
Speaker
Alabama doesn't even belong in the same field as Indiana. And my dad was like, I know. And then I was like, Oh wait, what does that mean about us? So like I had that kind of sinking feeling, uh, at that point, like, Hmm, let's see how this goes. Like, I don't know. But then, you know, like you were saying they're like, well, we got 21, 12. I was like, okay, no, we're good. Um, I think you're right. i think the loss of Bobo massive also though, the loss of Gabe Harris massive, like, um,
00:24:13
Speaker
The defense, you know, while we were forcing a lot of the the punts and such early, there was there still wasn't pressure on Chambliss. Like, we never got to them. And we were bringing these, like, blitz packages all game.
00:24:25
Speaker
And I felt like they didn't really work. So, I don't know. Like, I feel like, um again, like a coaching thing. Like, their defense their defense was able to figure things out. Like, they did that... defensive lineman stunt thing where the lineman just kept getting in, in the throwing window of gunner and batting the ball down. Like they figured out ways to disrupt our passing lanes.
00:24:47
Speaker
And we never did anything like that. Like we just kept blitzing and we never got home. It didn't work. We tried it again on that third and five on their last drive. It's third and five. We bring the house. We leave like man coverage on the outside. And the dude was wide open. Like, um which I actually was yelling at my TV, like, let them score, let them score. I, I, I kind of feel like you just let them score and then take our chances. But what do I know? um So, yeah, I don't know. Like you said, yeah, injuries, I guess it doesn't count, but whatever.
00:25:17
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, outside of the total yards, ah the total yards gained, it was fairly even, fairly even, generally speaking across the board. We beat them in the time of possession, um which is crazy to think about because we had so many three and outs and so many short, short drives. Like,
00:25:35
Speaker
our our Our inability to get the ball moving on offense in the middle eight is honestly where where we where we lost this game, and it culminated with us fumbling the ball on on a situation that just we had no business we had no business fumbling that ball in the fourth quarter. Yeah.
00:25:54
Speaker
um I mean, I feel like don't even like I get the whole, I mean, I get how I get, but like, I mean, it's unfortunate that there was the miscommunication or whatever. You got new center. He snapped the ball when he wasn't supposed to, but like, I don't know why we, why we're messing around with that. Like just punt the ball.
00:26:07
Speaker
Like we're not going to trick them, you know, just punt it. And mean, that was a huge touchdown. It was a huge touchdown that they scored. I mean, for me for me it's for me, it's that, okay, you if you want to if you want to mess around with that stuff, we've been doing it all season long. It's like the new shiny toy for the season after Kirby saw notre Dame do it against us. yeah um Which, you know, by and large, it's it's fine. like I don't have any problem with executing it.
00:26:36
Speaker
The problem that I have is that the players were put in positions and were very clearly not like the the lack of communication on what to do. Like the players not knowing what to do is the part that I have a problem with. And that rests on I'm not sure who it rests on because we don't technically have a special teams coordinator. Right.
00:26:57
Speaker
That's a good question. um We might. like I'm going to do some Googles really quick. Carry on. I mean, either either way, like somebody is tasked with communicating, this is what we're doing in this situation. We're going to run the punt team out there, and we're going to run everybody back back off.
00:27:16
Speaker
We're going to fake it. We're going hard count. We're going to do all the stuff that we've done literally all season long that Pretty much everybody in the stadium was expecting them to try to hard count to get us to get them to jump off sides, which I feel like everyone also knew was going to happen. And so they didn't expect it.
00:27:33
Speaker
So when they actually snapped the ball, like someone somewhere had to have been told if this, then that, right. Right. So yeah. Because the way that the way that it was described by Kirby and the coaching staff was that if you are going if you see this lineup, like we saw it against Alabama, Gunnar had a look on ah on an alignment situation, and so we we went for it, right? And and he got over the he got over the goal and on a QB sneak or whatever. it got got over the the yard to gain on a QB sneak. Like we've, we've seen that throughout Kirby's tenure when they see something on film and they want to exploit it, the on the onsite kick. I mean, even though it didn't work out for us, they saw an alignment and frankly, it was still open in the SEC championship with Justin Fields. Like yeah in certain situations, Kirby has been able to sniff out things that they're looking for. And they clearly must've been looking for something in that situation. But
00:28:33
Speaker
And I'm guessing that someone thinks that they saw it and that's why the ball was snapped. But somewhere somewhere somewhere along the lines, the the clear delineation of what we're doing here was not communicated properly. Maybe it was Gunner. Maybe Gunner was should have been doing something. I don't know. But yeah again, that kind of falls into that category of this is after he got rocked.
00:28:57
Speaker
Yeah. Maybe he wasn't thinking clearly. ah Right. ah Update. Kirk Benedict is our special teams coror coordinator. he i think I remember when we did this onside kick against Texas, you were calling out how like Kirby was high-fiving and celebrating with someone. It's it's him. yeah That was the guy? Yeah.
00:29:17
Speaker
I will say the fake punt that we executed, the actual fake punt that we executed was phenomenal. Phenomenal. that was Phenomenal. Yeah. i was i was actually I was actually getting food for for Carter and God bless him. I missed i missed that.
00:29:33
Speaker
What I do remember is like, ah, we're about to punt. It's fine. And so i decided I decided to walk, which, by the way, I'm going to take a minute and I'm going to criticize the Superdome.
00:29:45
Speaker
First of all, absolute disaster getting in the stadium. ah There was like we went with our our fraternity brother, Chris Alvarez. He was kind of my my guide for for the afternoon there. Oh, dude, I didn't know that.
00:29:59
Speaker
That's awesome. Yeah, I didn't tell you. Yeah, sorry. He said he says hello, by the way. um alvy what's up buddy alvy yeah um but alvy alvy basically was like yeah they this never happens and i'm like yeah but it's happening now right now And then like he told me, he's like he's like, once you're in, you're in. And then it definitely was not that way. We had to scan our our tickets again. So i don't know if it's like a Sugar Bowl thing or what. ah But also, like the the seats in the Superdome are incredibly packed in. I mean, you want to talk about being packed in like sardines? like if If I had maybe ate a couple more po'boys during the week, I probably would not have been able to be in that seat. Yeah.
00:30:45
Speaker
but But aside from that, like the stadium itself is massive. you feel like you're in a You truly feel like you're in a Greek in a greek ah like a greek you know coliseum or whatever, which is funny because they've got the Caesars the e logo on the very on the on the ceiling.
00:31:02
Speaker
ah But the other thing that I'll say about it is that if you've got to go to the bathroom in the Superdome, you are SOL on seeing any action that's going on in the stadium. There are no lines of sight.
00:31:16
Speaker
There are no lines of sight to the field. And there's like barely any TVs on the concourse. There's nothing in the bathrooms. There's nothing anywhere. like it's and And the TVs that they do have on the concourse are like...
00:31:29
Speaker
I want to say approximately 60 seconds behind, like more so than watching it like live versus the radio. Right. Right. Yeah. I remember you you texted me that at one point in the game. You're like, when you were in line, you're like, dude, something just happened like a minute after. I saw it on TV like a minute late.
00:31:47
Speaker
Yeah, it was it was very it was very painful. I mean, i had it on my phone and it was faster than what was on the monitors in the stadium. Interesting. interesting Yeah, crazy. Anyway, ah sidebar on on game day experience there. again i feel like we need to circle back to that when we're done talking about the game anyways. so Yeah, let's find out. kind of dove right in. We did, we just dove right in. we had we have We had a lot to talk about.
00:32:13
Speaker
we've been we've been gluttons We've been gluttons on i'm talking trash all week long. so um You want to talk through, like, mean I kind of want to talk through again, like the our last full offensive drive when we're down three. um i agree with you. I think i think Nate Frazier getting hurt on that drive.
00:32:35
Speaker
changed things. um I guess even honestly though, even before that, like what happened, like did we flip a switch? Cause like when we got down 10 points, it was like, we woke up and then boom, the offense was amazing. Yeah.
00:32:49
Speaker
Like, did we take a governor off? Like, you know, don't know. It just seems, it just seems Your your your theory of Kirby saying, right, you go do that, go do that stuff. We got to win this game. Yeah. Go to the offense. Yeah. We, we, we fumble the score. Then we go six place, 75 yards touchdown with, by the way, Zachariah branch ah laying on his back, catching a touchdown was a sight to see. That was incredible. Yeah.
00:33:14
Speaker
um then we fly down the field again and have to settle for the field goal. um In that drive, like also frustrating on that drive, there it's I know Ole Miss fans are complaining about officiating or whatever, but like I thought both the pass interference calls on that drive were quite valid. And I thought the second one was actually a phenomenal play by their defensive back because Colby Young was open for a touchdown. We finally ran the...
00:33:39
Speaker
fake the screen to branch and then go deep to somebody else. And Kobe on black blue, right by the defensive back. And he just grabbed him and hung on for dear life and stopped him. Like if he doesn't do that, that's a touchdown. And Georgia has the lead. um Which, so, you know, ah sometimes the penalty is a good thing.
00:33:56
Speaker
And that was a great example of it by their defensive back. It was a great, it was a great penalty. um But then we get down there first and goal. And this is what we were talking about before we hit record. What was it when we had first and goal, the expected win percentage was like 75% Georgia.
00:34:12
Speaker
Yeah. the we had We hadn't scored the touchdown. It was first and goal from the five. um And Gunner had run it to the three. After that play, we had a 75% win expectancy, a win probability or whatever on yeah ESPN's analytics. Okay. um Which...
00:34:31
Speaker
It's hard not to argue because you're basically saying you've got a 75% chance of scoring a touchdown here effectively. And with this offense, we've been good at that all year. Like that's been our thing. It's like, we get goal to go. We score a touchdown.
00:34:44
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. But I guess that my main beef with this is that this feels a lot like the 2012 SEC championship game where you have a situation, and again, i think that it was, Bobo was the coordinator in 2012, right?
00:35:03
Speaker
Yes. Uh-oh, uh-oh. I'm just saying, Jim, like this is the second time in a very, very crucial, pivotal play where we get down the field, we're storming down the field and we get to a situation where we need to do something to affect the game.
00:35:26
Speaker
And in the 2012 example, everyone wanted to spike the ball so that we had another another down to live. But Mark Rick said that we felt like we had a play dialed up, and maybe they did. I don't know.
00:35:39
Speaker
It didn't work out, obviously, and things ended incredibly poorly for everyone involved. Well, here we are again. Fast forward, it's 2026. um And we are storming down the field on a situation where we've got ah a defense on its heels.
00:35:57
Speaker
It's first and goal from the three-yard line. Like... The second and goal of the three, but yeah, second and goal from three. Sorry. First and goal from the five. First and goal. I got, I got it up. I only know this because I have it up. First and goal of the eight gunner runs for five yards for the three. And then and goal from the three. And we, and then we lost three yards because we handed off to John C. He lost three yards.
00:36:17
Speaker
Right. So I guess that, ah okay, Nate Frazier's hurt. He's out. let's let's Let's make that assumption. Okay, so then then who do you go to? Who's your go-to in that situation? Well, you've got Josh McCray, who's been the short yardage guy. Yeah, okay.
00:36:35
Speaker
why whyd it why didn't he get it Why didn't he get a shot? Cash Jones has been clutch all day, which, by the way, I don't want to hear any more sore words about Cash Jones. Dude, seriously.
00:36:45
Speaker
Seriously. um I mean, you've got you've got guys that have gotten you yards, gotten you in. I mean, shoot. like we we used to have a jumbo package where it was to tush push to Jalen Carter. Like we've got to have something in our arsenal that is going to get us two yards, no matter what, three yards, no matter what.
00:37:07
Speaker
And we have it this year. We've seen it. We did that, that overload off balance offensive line where there's like no receivers and all the tight ends in the world. And like when we ran against Alabama, when we had Roger Robinson as a fullback, You know, like we have those plays, we have this package. And what's really weird to me is we get goal to go with the eight Ole Miss has time two timeouts. It was like, we were more concerned with getting them to call their timeouts than to score.
00:37:32
Speaker
And then it's like, we run the ball on first down. They call timeout. We run the ball on second down. They call timeout. Now they're out of timeouts and there's 56 seconds left or where there's a minute and four seconds left. Like you've already done this. You run the ball again, or you throw a screen to branch like something where like, if we don't score, the clock is running. You don't stop the clock. And I've seen Kirby's response to this as well.
00:37:55
Speaker
yeah if we run the ball, then we're conceding the field goal for overtime. Like we were trying to win the game. It's like, well, but you still kick the fourth. you kick You've kicked the field goal on fourth down. Like if you're telling me that you want to win the game here, then you go for it on fourth down. Like, you know, I don't know. I don't, I don't get that, that logic. So I'm with you. I mean, second and three shoot, get that huge jumbo package with like the fullback and the three tight ends.
00:38:21
Speaker
and see what happens or run one of those plays on third down. And we, you know, we'd seen that so many times. Like, I don't, I don't get the the philosophy here. So, I mean, at the bare minimum, at the bare minimum, you run a play that, you know, your team can execute.
00:38:38
Speaker
And if it's not there, you know, that everybody's going to do their job to just live to live to see another down. Yeah. And you, and you, and you go, or you go down, you let the clock run and then Ole Miss is getting the ball back with like 20 seconds left or less.
00:38:51
Speaker
Exactly. And that's, and that's probably my biggest issue um with the whole, the whole series. Like, i don't care that we got stopped. i I think that it's absolutely utterly embarrassing to get into a situation like that and not be able to punch the ball in. We deserve to lose based on that one series alone. Yeah.
00:39:13
Speaker
That's how you really feel, JP. I mean, it is. It's it's utterly embarrassing to not get a touchdown out of that situation. on that defense, man. That defense is terrible.
00:39:25
Speaker
It's even more embarrassing, yes. The defense is is absolutely embarrassing. embarrassing um But i think that I think that in that situation, you're as a as a coach, you are designed you're supposed to do the least damage to yourself.
00:39:45
Speaker
on any given On any given call, you want to do the least damage to yourself in that situation. Yeah. um Regardless of what it is, like, even if, even if we called, even if we thought we had the right play call, if someone comes storming through the line and sacks the quarterback there and we fumble the ball, like that's, that's, that's, yeah even that would have been better. Yeah.
00:40:08
Speaker
Because we still were going to kick the field goal on the clock's running. Like, right I don't know, man. I just, though the way that we executed it on that play in such a compact window when they have covered us all game long, regardless of where we were at, like, To me, it's just... Graham used the term coaching malpractice, and maybe it's one of those situations that Kirby learns from that, um you know, he's... I guess we're all still learning. I mean, Mark Richt was in that situation in 2012, and he had been a coach for a while, too, so
00:40:43
Speaker
um I hope so. I don't know. You always got to self scout. I, I, I hope that that is a teachable learning moment and not a digging in. i was trying to win the game thing. Cause like there are things to be learned from that sequence. And I hope, I hope, I hope they take that opportunity to learn from it.
00:41:01
Speaker
I know. Yeah, agreed. But, you know, and then and then on the flip side of that, then we still had to go down and defend them, which we hadn't been able to do all quarter.
00:41:12
Speaker
um Got them to third down, got them to third and five, and then, whew, man. third and five and we decided to do something that we hadn't really done all game, which was to just leave that man on an Island.
00:41:28
Speaker
i don't know. And not, not only that, but with the alignment was bad. I don't know. Do we, do we have a timeout left in that situation, Jim? Because I feel like that that was, that's something that the coaches also need to take a hard look.
00:41:40
Speaker
If we had any timeouts left, noticing that our safety is shading to the complete opposite side of the field, which Deandre Baker is basically sitting there telling us, I mean, if you haven't seen it, I highly recommend you checking out Davin Bellamy and D-Bake going through the the final plays. And basically, DeAndre basically looks at the alignment of the offense in that situation, and he basically calls out, okay, DeAndre,
00:42:05
Speaker
the the short side of the field he's in tight. So that means that his split is going to be a much shorter, his route is going to be a much shorter route. So he's not going deep. So basically he's saying that from that point forward, you know, that that wide receiver to the short side is not going deep. So where are the deep threats there on the opposite side of the formation?
00:42:26
Speaker
all three of those wide receivers. And he kind of he kind of runs through it that there's the the biggest threat is going to be on the outside man for a number of different reasons. And so then he goes and looks at our alignment, and the safety is way out of position from the get-go, like from the get-go. Never mind the fact that our cornerback that is also trying to do make defense – um on one of those wide receivers, the guy that ends up the guy that ends up beating beating his man, um he's he's basically cooked from the get-go because of his positioning. Yeah, it's it's utterly frustrating to see that from a team that has prided itself on being a defensive stalwart from a team that has the pedigree of defensive players and defensive backs like DeAndre Baker, Kamari Lassiter, Javon Bullard, like all of those guys have come through and we have been able to execute at a high level.
00:43:22
Speaker
To see that happen in much the same way that second and 26 happened, where our where our safety gets completely, like I don't know, gamed, is is incredibly annoying and incredibly frustrating. And like I said earlier, that i think that there's no surprise that Kirby went out and immediately signed a safety.
00:43:42
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. I will say, dude, the next play, Daylon Everett almost picked off Chambliss on the next play. I i don't disagree. Daylon Everett, he was hot and cold. He got cooked too and in in that game.
00:43:56
Speaker
um But yeah, when that happened, everyone in the stadium, let me tell you, man, you want to talk about people that were living on edge on that play? o yeah I think that that was that was probably another example of of them like...
00:44:10
Speaker
What are you doing? Exactly. i was like, what are you doing? Like, you know that you've got this, this howitzer sitting on the sideline. He's just going to go out there and drill one. So honestly, dude, you're right. Like what they should have done is run the ball at the middle.
00:44:26
Speaker
once and like get the clock run down, spike in the ball or whatever, you know, and like get the clock down. um Cause in the, it, what ended up being like one of the craziest endings, like all of this, we haven't even talked about the whole, like the way the game ended. Like dude, that was one of the craziest endings. I mean, twice, dude twice the stage was pulled out on the field. Jim, want to, I want to take a minute and I'm going to complain about the officiating.
00:44:55
Speaker
ah I need to, I'm, they should have thrown flags on Ole Miss sideline warning 15 yards twice. Right. That was a great video. there was I will say I'm not, I think, think Matt Austin, was the like the rules expert in the game. And I always I give him lot crap sometimes. So I will say kudos to him because the broadcast team was like, this is so ridiculous. Like, just let the game end. Like the stuff's out here. Can we end the game? And he's like, well, you know, we do have rules and you have to follow the rules. So like I think you said that Carter saw it in the stadium like there's a second left. He did. To his credit, basically there's just utter pandemonium happening all around us. I, of course, am in the, oh my God, let's get out here as fast as possible kind of thing. You're in glass case of motion. Need to get out of there.
00:45:54
Speaker
Yeah, so I'm like sitting there looking around. and Carter's like, no, no, no, we can't go. We can't go. There's one second left. I was like, what are you talking about? No Oh, which yeah way like Which, by the way, like I still don't understand how this works.
00:46:11
Speaker
So all the chaos happens. Everybody in the stadium is like, what the fuck? The Ole miss the o Miss guy next to me is like, what do you mean we got to this?
00:46:24
Speaker
and then we proceeded to do an onside kick, which I thought you had to punt after a safety, but I guess you do. You have to do the kickoff. I thought it was a punt after. it So you can punt. Technically you could punt on a regular kickoff. I think it's a strategy. Like most teams punt due to strategy ah because like you're so far back, they want the hang time they can tackle the return, the return man. I believe that is why that generally happens.
00:46:50
Speaker
But dude, here's the thing. i will Okay. So on the first one, like I get it. Like the, the clock hit zero, you know, Carter noticed it was one second, but the refs didn't. And it took a minute or took several minutes to figure that out. So like I get that, but I will say this.
00:47:05
Speaker
You're doing an onside kick if the receiving team doesn't touch the ball in the onside. Remember what like many people learned in the Texas game? The second Cass Jones got the onside kick in the Texas game, like he's down, you cannot advance the ball.
00:47:19
Speaker
Oh, right, right, right, right. yeah So the second we recovered that onside kick, like the clock doesn't start. Right.
00:47:27
Speaker
I will say, like, I'm not saying they actually should have thrown a flag on them, but I'm not not saying that either. Because, like, Pete Golding, like, dude clearly doesn't know that rule, which I kind of find kind of funny because they dunked the Gatorade on him. was mad. Like, he's screaming at the refs. It's like, dude, you didn't touch the ball. Like, all they had to do, like, from their special teams perspective, talking about special teams coordinators stuff. Yeah, they had to do try to recover it. All they got to do is try. Exactly. Just try. Touch it and the clock starts. They just sat there and the second we fell on it, boom, we got one more play. So like, mean, that Just there and kick it. Yeah. So I've seen people be like, it was horrendous. Like, I mean, they got it right. Like, I don't know. Like, I'm sorry that you don't like the rules of football, but they got the end of the game right.
00:48:16
Speaker
Yeah. For what's worth it. ah Agreed. Agreed. um i will say, I don't know what the heck we were doing on our lateral on the first, like on their kickoff. ah That was suboptimal.
00:48:29
Speaker
That can't be the way that was drawn drawn up, but I digress. Oh, you mean when we brought the ball out? On our return. Yeah. where And we had lateraled it across the field and hit the pylon. Like, I don't know what was going on there.
00:48:41
Speaker
Oh yeah. Yeah. Dude. Well, first of all, I don't understand why we even tried to run it out. Yeah, you got to – did it bounce? This is the thing where, like, I haven't gone to look. It didn't bounce. We caught it in the end zone. Dude, you got to figure out. Catch that. everybody Everybody in the stadium was like, oh, my God, what is he doing? Yeah, that that didn't make any sense. Like, your best chance is to run a play, not a return. Right, exactly. i mean We had six seconds left. You know, get one 20-yard out on the sideline, maybe, and go for a crazy field goal.
00:49:11
Speaker
I know. Yeah, I don't know. But the whole thing was was crazy. At one point, i was was like, oh my gosh, is Cash Jones going to run this onside kickback? Dude, i thought I thought I was freaking out. Like, i was screaming at my TV.
00:49:25
Speaker
um Okay, so my my hot take on this, though, like, if you're you know you're down and you're thinking about this game, and I've seen, you know, there's a whole lot of Fire Bowbo stuff, which, you know, shocking.
00:49:36
Speaker
um I was thinking, like, comparisons. You brought up 2012. Yeah. SEC championship game. I'm going to bring up ah a great memory and compare it to a different game. Like I started thinking, what was the difference between this sugar bowl and the peach bowl where we beat Ohio state.
00:49:53
Speaker
And frankly, the difference is old Mrs. Kicker compared to Ohio state's. o So had all if Ohio State's kicker could make a field goal, would you have wanted to fire, you know, like our coaches? Like, you do you want to fire Monk in? There's like, I see, I told you Stetson couldn't do it without the 21 defense. Like, you know, and like the difference is their kicker missed. And like, that's part of football.
00:50:15
Speaker
And, you know, that's a, it is a great game. historical win for Georgia, you know, on the way to back-to-back national championships. But like, man, football is really hard. And this 12-team college flip football playoff is really hard.
00:50:28
Speaker
um Having 25 days of rest when your team has played, the your opponent has played within the past 10 days is really hard. And just ask Ohio State about that.
00:50:40
Speaker
Like, they were in the opposite position this year as opposed to last year. like It's a hard game. This playoff is way harder than it's ever been. And don't know. I just think like if you put all your eggs, if like if the only way you can enjoy the season is to be national champions, like you got a tough road ahead of you.
00:50:59
Speaker
I'll say that. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. And it is hard. I think that there's enough of a body of evidence for the bi-week situation to not be, it's not an advantage for for you to play in the SEC championship game. It's not an advantage to win the SEC championship for sure. Yeah. um I don't, there's, there's so much, there's so much evidence out there to showcase this, that it just doesn't, it it almost defies logic that anyone is arguing any differently. Because as we said in their like preseason analysis and all those kinds of things, like you've been saying it for ever since the,
00:51:41
Speaker
Ever since last year's playoff kind of panned out that third place in the SEC is the sweet spot. um And Ole Miss was third place in the SEC. Yeah, 100%.
00:51:53
Speaker
The teams that have got a bye in the cultural playoff have been outscored fifty one to three in the first quarter, cumulative cumulatively over the first two 12-team playoffs for it's worth. Yeah, Georgia didn't score a single point.
00:52:07
Speaker
Yeah, I will say though, like, and this is kind of like, like hindsight, like me before the game, like if I could talk to myself during the preview, like, look, I think Ole Miss is the best team we played all year.
00:52:20
Speaker
We played them twice. We beat them at home and we lost them in a neutral site. Like that's football, you know, like it's not, it shouldn't be that shocking. Um, I'm shocked because of the way it happened and the way it went down and we had that lead and all that stuff. But like, when you think about it that way, i think it's not all, it's not all that crazy. The other thing is, difference. We beat everybody on our schedule. We beat everyone our schedule. there's Yeah, there's no one that we played that we can't say we didn't beat. um And the other thing is in the preview, we were talking with Hunter, like, about Chambliss. And I think I had asked something about, like, like what like what happened. Because, I mean, he he kind of fell apart in the fourth quarter in Athens. Yeah. And so i'm kind of wondering, like, did the environment get to him?
00:53:00
Speaker
um Obviously, he's grown up, right? Like, he's played more games now. um And frankly, it was a it was a home game, which, like, at some point. like So for you, how lopsided was it? Like, I've heard anything from 60-40 to 80-20 on this.
00:53:16
Speaker
I mean, it was there was a lot of powder blue in that stadium, man. yeah There's a lot of powder blue and it was loud. They drown they tried to drown out Krypton, which they pretty much did.
00:53:28
Speaker
um Yeah, it was it was definitely it was definitely a lot of a lot of powder blue. The guy that I was sitting next to, I even asked him, I was like, so you like go to these games like all the time. like why did you why are Why are you over here on the UGA side? Why aren't you over there with those guys? And he's like, the the tickets were cheaper over here.
00:53:46
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And I'll say it, I'll say it. Like if you were, I hope that this is a learning experience for a lot of different folks, but like I talked to a lot of people that were on the fence, like, Oh, don't know if I'm going to go to new Orleans and all this kind of stuff. And like, i don't know if you're a person that travels to these games regularly, like you were sorely missed on the fandom side of things for this game. And trust me, I get it. um It's expensive. I was looking at going into going to Phoenix and going into Miami as well, but I knew that we had to get past this game first um too, which I don't normally go to these games. I don't normally go to the away games. I don't i don't normally travel, but try to make ah a game a day out of it with Carter, a weekend ah out of it with Carter. um
00:54:35
Speaker
you know we We had a really good time in New Orleans in general. It was great. Dude, major FOMO. I always showed Lily all of your pictures and she just kept being like, oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. So there's, there was definitely some pros and cons, but I would say that I had grand visions of doing a lot of different stuff, but Carter had only visions of getting autographs at the team hotel. So doing what dads do, we swallow what we want to do. I did, i did insist that we go to the world war two museum, um which is a phenomenal museum. If you've never been to the world war two museum in new Orleans, I, highly recommend it, particularly if you were a World War II junkie like we all 40-year-old dads are.
00:55:18
Speaker
um the But the but the the the World War II Museum was amazing. i don't even think we saw, but seventy maybe 75% it.
00:55:29
Speaker
And the clock, i was like watching the clock the whole time. i was like, well, we're supposed to be at this back at the team hotel at XYZ time. And we we, we got there a little later than when I think we wanted to, which probably impacted some of his autograph ability on on, game day. But we did, we'd run into some guys on the day before at the team hotel. And we ran into some guys, um,
00:55:54
Speaker
on game day there. And we got to see, we basically had our own like personal dog walk at the, at the team hotel. mean, Kirby smart was like five feet from me. Just like he wasn't like, like being at the dog walk, except there was nobody else there. Like there was just a handful of fans and and folks that knew that the team was there. There was Oscar Delp's family was there.
00:56:17
Speaker
There was, there were some player parents. And I think that it was just like people were walking by and like, Oh, team's coming out cool like yeah it was it was a very intimate dog walk setting i mean i literally was able to talk to stacy sterles before the game and tell him to get those boys right ah colby young colby young i will say like straight up was high-fiving everybody and that's great and cool and i'm not saying that The players that didn't were are any lesser than, but I was, out I thought that was awesome. Like Colby young was like high five and he made sure to high five everybody.
00:56:56
Speaker
That's cool. um I got high fives from a lot of folks. I also saw that you had, you had a picture with creepy Todd, which is just like, so amazing.
00:57:05
Speaker
I didn't get his autograph, but we did get a picture with him. I don't i didn't think that Carter would want his autograph, but ah that was the day before. So that was the day before. So I think that he was going to I think that he was going to his room because the the direction that those guys were coming from, I think that there were team activities that were happening. in one section of the hotel and then they all were staying in a section of the hotel that was cordoned off like you couldn't get into that section of the hotel without a pass um so anyway but we were on the escalator going to that area and i saw coach hartley come by and said coach can we get pictures absolutely absolutely
00:57:48
Speaker
ah Yeah, on, get in here. That's so awesome. I think you sent that, then you sent one with with a Jeff Dantzler. We did. i saw Jeff Dantzler. Jeff Dantzler was there. said, can we get one? and He was so gracious.
00:58:01
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ah We saw brian Bryant Gant. We made some jokes made some jokes with him about Lou Wood. That was amazing. I think that when I first came up to him, he actually was like super humble about about it. i was like, coach, can we get a picture? here He goes,
00:58:18
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Yeah, I don't know why you want a picture with me. i It's an inside joke. He goes, what's so funny about the joke? And I said, well, so I went into the story about how every time Kirby's on the screen, he's right there next to him and Lou and I asked him if he knew Lou. And i was like, Lou always says that you just love that screen time. And he just laughed and laughed and laughed.
00:58:41
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That's awesome. And then i then I said, you got anything you want to say to him? And he said, ask him about them golf clubs. You still got them. Classic. Apparently this week, I guess, although if he goes to your parents' house, I guess he's not going to, your dad's not going to be there.
00:58:58
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That's too funny. So you got, so we saw Brian Gant, also saw DJ Shockley, which Carter was like, dude, you know, everybody. Yeah. yeah I know some people. I know some people. were Were you like, well, I do host a Georgia football podcast. Yeah.
00:59:16
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So we saw DJ shot Shockley, which shout out to his son who took ah took our picture, which was funny. um Yeah. DJ Shockley. We saw KJ Bolden before the game.
00:59:27
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And we also saw Lussin Lucky. um I know that he was looking for his family in retrospect. Like when we caught him, he was like looking for his family and it was, super nice about it took a picture with us and then maybe like five minutes later carter was like let's go see another section and see if there's players or anything and so we went up the escalator to that section where the players are coming out um where they are eventually going to come out and lawson lucky's mom stops me and and asks if i'll take a picture of him and his family and his brother was there and i was like absolutely yeah he just took a picture with my kid i'll absolutely take a picture
01:00:03
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That's great. Got to take a picture of Lawson Lucky and his family. um Who else was there? I think that was pretty much the the gist. we I actually saw Coach Hill, um who just recently left the the team to go to Colorado State, I think it was.
01:00:24
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um We did see him the the day before, or was it on the game day? I can't remember. And I i just remember thinking like it's weird that he's just hanging out. And it's funny to come to find that that he's leaving, so like maybe he wasn't as involved as he probably would normally be, I guess, raise my is my theory. Because the the team knew that he was leaving. so um Oh, how did I forget?
01:00:50
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we We saw the booming onion. Oh, that's right. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Who was very, very nice and very friendly. I made sure to tell him that on the podcast that we we hosted his roommate and and we were all very complimentary of him and that we were so proud. so Nice. And I thought that he was the MVP of the SEC championship game. And he said that I hope that I don't i don't ever see the field tomorrow. Yeah.
01:01:18
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Yeah, yeah. wish that it wish that had come to fruition. But that said, he was still a weapon out there, Jim. He was, man. He was. He was. he's he He will be missed.
01:01:29
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He will be missed. Yeah, exactly. Which has to... That's kind of the thing, is it's like lot of guys, it was their last game. A lot of DGDs, and... um But that's the way it should be. Like we have, like we're entering the era of college football where like, like you've, you've said on the text threads, like i just, I find it very hard to be dialed in like I was six years ago.
01:01:55
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Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's, it's, it's changed. It's a different, We live in a different world. Yeah. Yep. no It's a new sport. It's a new sport. Certainly a new place. yeah, we, we had the, we hit we ate the beignets.
01:02:10
Speaker
We ate the, we ate the po' boys. I took harder down the bourbon street during safety time. Um, when it was not dangerous. Yeah. Right. Right. Uh, we wanted to, I wanted to try to get him to go down and I probably, you know, maybe I should have forced his hand to go down to the river for the fireworks for new year's, new year's Eve. But dude, you know, i had a kid that was just completely obsessed with stranger things.
01:02:38
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Actually. So that just reminded me that I, we, we had gotten so caught up in like talking before we had hit record about all this stuff. Sometimes I think about like, how should we start the show? And usually we just kind of, we're in the middle of talking.
01:02:50
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But i was my original plan was to make a joke about that this was the Stranger Things finale review episode. so yeah Which, yeah by the way, like was was like insane. but yeah No spoilers, but yeah was Carter was definitely crying at a few points.
01:03:10
Speaker
i we we need i'm I'm huge anti-spoiler. After we hit stop, I need to talk to you about something. okay there's There are people, strange like crazy Stranger Things fans. Things are something is I find hilarious. um yeah we Ella wasn't home for New Year's and Lily just wanted to watch football. so like We were watching Ohio State, Miami at a friend's house. um so we actually We actually woke up we We made the statement like we have to start Stranger Things on New Year's Day by 10 a.m. so that it will be over by the first playoff game.
01:03:49
Speaker
That was like kind of like Lily's demand. Wait, what? We started it New Year's Day morning by 10 a.m. so that we'd be done watching it by noon so that we oh oh god we wouldn't miss any playoff football. So it's pretty funny.
01:04:03
Speaker
That is pretty funny. I love i love i love Lily's approach. She's like, well, we have to watch football. we yeah We can't miss the playoff games. Right.
01:04:16
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That's awesome. But yeah, it was a good trip. It was a good trip to New Orleans. um It was definitely cool just to see the... I don't know if you've seen it. I don't even know if did they talk about it on the broadcast. I don't know, but...
01:04:28
Speaker
um you go down bourbon street and you look up you can see the the memorial to uh the terrorist attack um we were there during the daytime and then we were there during the nighttime definitely much better at night because it's all lit up and stuff it was super cool um i thought that i thought that was pretty i thought that was pretty awesome um it is yeah yeah i don't know i don't know what else to say um I ate too many, I ate too many po' boys.
01:04:58
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ah Um, I think, uh, we'll do probably a season review, you know, well, not probably we'll do a season review. My probably is probably timing wise, like when the, when the playoff is over and such. And so we'll, we'll take questions and and do that and such like we usually do.
01:05:16
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this is This is a basketball podcast now, Jim. Time for the basketball minute. Talk about crazy. the The basketball team tried to outdo the football team with crazy ending. Yes. With giving up a four-point play to Auburn ah inside of 0.7 seconds. ah As we said, they just wanted to go to overtime so they could score over 100 points again.
01:05:40
Speaker
hey the cardiac The cardiac hoop dogs. Dude, you're number 18 ranked Georgia basketball team. 1-0 in the SEC, atop the SEC standings in SEC play. Tied for first.
01:05:55
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ah And then also, I mean, hey, how how about this? How about text message came through to you today from me? Hey, John, are you okay if we record tonight? Because we've got to watch Georgia basketball tomorrow. so Yes. dogs talk Dogs taking on the Gators Tuesday night.
01:06:10
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La la la la Florida going down. look Yeah. Yeah. ah I for one, I for one, welcome our new UGA basketball podcast to overlords. That's right. That's right.
01:06:22
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Fletcher is like, Fletcher is like pumping his fist. He's like, yes, let's go. Yeah, we got to get Fletcher on to talk about everything because i would do a complete injustice.
01:06:33
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Oh. Too good. Yeah. yeah Definitely pulling for the dogs. It's been fun. um I was looking through my notes to make sure I hit everything.
01:06:46
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The only thing I forgot to mention is I, I do hate that. ah We only got one touch for Dylan bill in the game. The unofficial official, my guy to podcast. i mean, thank he's been in goal line situations, Jim.
01:06:59
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So that's kind of what I'm saying is like, I felt like kind of what we ran was different, like not as many screens, not really like the jet sweeps kind of stuff that we usually do. And we did the one to Dylan Bell, which was, and it was, you know he was trying to throw it and it was good play by him to throw it away.
01:07:14
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He saved yardage cause it wasn't going to work. But yeah, but Shout out to the unofficial official. um his ah He's out out out of eligibility. So that that will be another storyline as we head into next season, JP, as Mike Outta Podcast is on the – we'll be on the lookout for a new unofficial official wide receiver.
01:07:35
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we're We're taking applications, boys. maybe maybe Maybe we can get Colby Young back for another another year. Maybe, maybe. um Oh, before I forget, before we before we hang up, shout out Coach Trillbill.
01:07:51
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The final numbers are in. and double A double whammy on the day for me. A double whammy. So i i we tied in over-unders this week.
01:08:02
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We actually tied in both. We tied in the over-unders and in the pick-em. So I was able to maintain my slight lead in both. So shout out coach. Thanks for everything you you do for us.
01:08:15
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It's been a blast. It has been a blast. It's, it's always fun with coach involved. ah But yeah, another, another trophy, another trophy on your, yeah on your shelf in the background with the hover the hovering yeah we need to make we need to make like some trophies or something like a little dundee or something like that should we should make a little trophy It's like a little statue of like Ron Franklin or something.
01:08:42
Speaker
Oh man. Coach, we're open to ideas on what the ah the trophy should be.
01:08:48
Speaker
ah All right. Well, I don't know where this leaves you. I don't know where this leaves you, Jim, but I'm going to be going through and rooting for Ole Miss against Miami to end the whole Justin Fields, Carson Beck comparisons and the Kirby quarterback controversies and all that kind of stuff.
01:09:06
Speaker
So i hope Ole Miss beats the brakes off of Carson Beck and them, and Carson Beck plays his worst ever game um against Ole Miss. And then I hope that Indiana beats the brakes off of Ole Miss to just humble them a little bit more and have them literally walk away with zero trophies except for the Sugar Bowl trophy, so or yeah Sugar Bowl and Orange Bowl or wherever, Fiesta Bowl.
01:09:31
Speaker
Yeah, Fiesta. but at the end of the day, those trophies don't mean anything. If if the SEC championship doesn't mean anything, then those trophies definitely don't mean anything. Yeah. No, I'm with you there. i feel like you channeled Lily on your Carson Beck rant. So that was excellent. um She's been saying the same thing.
01:09:51
Speaker
ah I also, i mean, on top of that too, like I like the lane left and they're doing this. um So I think that's another, another angle as well.
01:10:02
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Um, so yeah, and i actually do think they'll beat Miami. I just don't think on Miami's offense can score enough. Miami's defense is really good, but I expect Ole Miss's offense to be too much for them as my, my gut there. And then I, but I will say, i don't think anybody's beating Indiana after what I saw last weekend.
01:10:20
Speaker
So, Yeah. Yeah. I think that there's, there's statistical anomalies and outliers that happened in any season, but the consistency with which Indiana has played throughout the season is hard to, hard to ignore. And I'm, I don't know, there'll be, it's, it's mind boggling to me. They doing, doing this with a bunch of white boys, like a bunch of three-star white kids.
01:10:45
Speaker
Yeah. i personally have ties to I personally have ties to Bloomington and the University of Indiana. um So i'll be i'll be I'll be rooting for the Hoosiers.
01:10:57
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Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. Well, the doubleam we we wrap up we wrap up another season, and we'll be ready to run it back soon.
01:11:08
Speaker
But we'll be pivoting this to baseball and basketball podcast, hopefully here in the not-too-distant future. Nice. Go Dawgs, Jim.
01:11:19
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Go Dawgs.