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Georgia Tech Preview | 2025 Georgia Football

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Preview of Georgia vs. Georgia Tech Matchup

00:00:00
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You know who can answer this question? Leach. you
00:00:08
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Welcome to My Gotta Podcast. I'm Jim Wood. In this episode, John Powell and I preview Georgia's matchup with Georgia Tech in the 2025 edition of Clean Old Fashioned Hate. We talk through what we're looking for in the game, and we answer questions from you, our listeners.

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00:00:39
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Now, let's join the conversation in progress.
00:00:45
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We're back. Clean. Old. Fashioned.
00:00:53
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It was dramatic. A dramatic reading of the name of the railroad. As only you can get here on my gu podcast.
00:01:04
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i'm i'm channeling I'm channeling my inner Joel Huggins. but Yeah, I think one of the the one of the themes, maybe we'll see. Well, we'll see if this sticks. But in my head, I feel like one of the things I try to do and we try to do this week is to remind folks like why this is a big deal and why it is a big rivalry. So I've got a couple of things that I'll I'll point out as we move through this. But yeah, I mean, for me, this is the big one. So got to get that state championship, say that we run this state and all those things. So.
00:01:40
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Yeah, we do run the state, Jim. Yes, sir. um Yeah, there's not much to say you can't get excited about clean old-fashioned hate, particularly after being on Twitter, looking at all of the nonsense over the last two weeks, watching little brother fumble over there over their over themselves, basically like trying to run for a touchdown without actually catching the ball.
00:02:05
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That's basically what happened to Tech last year or last week. um They had a clear touchdown ready to go, but they were looking upfield at who was going to get them next and drop the ball.
00:02:17
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The biggest game in the 35 years or whatever it was since they last were nationally relevant. um Yeah, man. it's a

Georgia vs. Georgia Tech Rivalry History

00:02:28
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um' I'm a little frustrated with them because it could have made this game a lot more fun, um but it'll still be fun.
00:02:36
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I have noticed that in reading some stuff and like reading some articles, like I was reading a Seth Emerson article today and it was like, this would have been this had tech beat pit kind of stuff. i've I've seen a lot, a lot of that. um So yeah, I do think, you know, I think nationally and then just the playoff picture, this game is, looks very different now than it did a week ago. And then obviously I think tech needs, not a thing tech needs serious help to make the ACC championship, whereas they could have clinched it. um So yeah, a lot, a lot changed in a week for sure.
00:03:08
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For sure. Since we were previewing last week to tonight, Things change Saturday night in a in a big way. um So yeah we got to keep we had to keep our eye on the prize. Got to keep our eye on the ball this week. so Yeah, i trust I trust Kirby to have the guys dialed in.
00:03:23
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the thing that's The thing that's been annoying for me is listening to listening to to people say, like, I tweeted something and somebody somebody responded to one of my tweets and was like, maybe I quote tweeted something and people have been responding to it, but it was basically talking about that they could spoil our CFP. And I don't think that that's accurate at all.
00:03:44
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um If anything, we can spoil any hope that they have of being involved in anything moving forward. Right. Right. Yeah. They've been out in full force on the socials.
00:03:57
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Yeah, dude. It's been kind of wild. I've been reading it. I've just been staying out of it, but I've I've seen it Yeah. And I hope that that's how the the Georgia team feels as well. I hope that they've got they have tweets and comments and things just blasted all over Butzmeyer.
00:04:18
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um Basically, just read what these people have said. I mean, I've seen people pull stuff out like, you know, I've seen like Munson memes get drug drug out of the attic for for them to fly. They're crazy on on social media.
00:04:39
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Yeah. um Yeah. I think I read somewhere someone was like, you know, we kept it classy. We didn't talk about Kirby Smart's dad. and where People are like, wait, what? Yeah. I saw that thread.
00:04:51
Speaker
I can't remember where that came from, but I was like, what what is happening right here? and somebody Somebody was like, congratulations? like question mark but If you're a Georgia fan that has questioned the validity youra yeah um they questioned the validity of this rivalry, um yeah just just peruse Twitter and it'll get a thousand times worse um should things not go our way.
00:05:18
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um Yeah, it's ah it's definitely a hate week. It feels a little bit more hateful this this year this time around than it did last year, and it would absolutely feel that way had Tech not fumbled the bag um last last last week.
00:05:37
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, no, you're 100% right. Totally agree. All right, let's let's run through the matchup. let's run through it. So quick reminder, you can always follow us on social media at MyGottaPodcast on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, and TikTok.
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00:06:24
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right, so for the matchup, kickoff is Friday. Reminder, the game is on Friday. This is another Black Friday matchup. It is not on Saturday. Friday, November 28th at 3.30 p.m. at the Benz. So also, game is in Atlanta, but not at historic Mark Rickfield at Bobby Dodd Stadium.
00:06:42
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The Dogs coming into this game at 10-1, wrapped up their SEC schedule at Georgia on the season, the ACC. The dogs are number four in all the land and all the polls. Tech is, I think, like 19 in one poll, 23 in the other. I believe they are 23 in the latest playoff rankings that just came out tonight.
00:07:03
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The game is on ABC with a broadcast crew of Joe Tessitore, Jesse Palmer, and Katie George. And it's on SiriusXM81, if you're into that. And the official hashtag that we will forget to use is hashtag UGAverseGT. The all-time series record, Georgia leads it 72-39-5.
00:07:23
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Georgia Tech claims two more wins. So yeah, you can check two of the boxes on this being a rivalry in that Georgia Tech claims, I think, two more victories than we've got. So we've got that. And then obviously a a named game.
00:07:35
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so And then last meeting, the Dogs won in the eight-overtime thriller last year in athens um And then if you're going be down there, the cold front has come or is coming or whatever through this week throughout this weekend looks like a high of 50 on Saturday. 50. Wow. That's higher than what I saw.
00:07:56
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Yeah. I see high of 50, low of 31. So. Okay. so and so I um imagine the roof will be closed, so it will not be nearly as cold as the eight overtime game last year. that was I guess that's one benefit of being in the bins. there yeah For sure.
00:08:13
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For sure.

Focus on Georgia Tech's Key Players

00:08:14
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All right. That's it for the matchup. I believe you have JP fun fact. I do. um It's not so much about the the university um or the trade school, I guess I should say. um It's not about the trade school. It's more so about their quarterback.
00:08:32
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Okay. Jim, are you familiar with the past of Mr. Haynes King? I know he is a multi-time transfer. Multi-time? I only saw one, but... Okay. So it was in the same... He was Texas A&M, right? He went from Texas A&M to Georgia Tech?
00:08:51
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That is correct. He he came from Texas A&M. He... um he He came from Texas A&M, but he he actually graduated from Texas A&M.
00:09:03
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um So he is and he is a full-fledged member of the cult. He's a cult member, Jim. Okay. um and And we need to do what what what what one does with the occult the occult. We need to snuff it out. Okay.
00:09:22
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So he is. so I was curious about his academic situation because, you know, one of the things that we keep hearing is about how amazing their academics are and how we're inbred and rednecks and we can't read and all those all those sorts of things. Right. um So he graduated with a degree in marketing from Texas A&M.
00:09:45
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And then he is i was like, well, what is he studying at at Georgia Tech? I'm just curious. So he's apparently, ah he's getting his master's or we're progressing and it sounds like that he is on track um for, he's on track for a master's degree in history and sociology of technology.
00:10:08
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Okay. Interesting. um There are two tracks and I have not confirmed one way or the other. um Which of these tracks that he is on, I'm willing to bet that he is on one versus the other. And I'm going to explain to you why. um There's two tracks in this 30 credit hour program um that basically examines far reaching impacts of science, technology, globalization, and social change.
00:10:37
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Technology and science track explores the technology and science from a historical and sociological perspective. Politics, power, and inequality examines contemporary issues such as racial justice, urbanization, and environmental change.
00:10:51
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Which of those two tracks do you think that one Haynes King is is a part of, Jim? I'm just curious. I have no idea. I mean, they're, the this is a different, yeah, they're, they're very different, but either way, like, you know, the Georgia Institute of Technology, right.
00:11:08
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um This bastion of math and science, and we're, we're, we're talking about social issues. this That's what this kid's graduated in. I feel like this is like the Georgia tech version of basket weaving.
00:11:21
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this is This is a program that is that is designed for like Jim Herrick. This is a Jim Herrick program is what I feel like. We're talking about the social perspective sociological perspective of technology and science. like This is probably one of the most fluff programs I think that I can think of that has to exist at at Georgia Tech.
00:11:44
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Hmm. okay okay yes i was i was not aware that this program existed yeah there we go there we go now you know now you know now you know now you know what haynes king is doing at georgia tech okay okay interesting did did not we always learn something in jp sunfax yes extensive extensive research on these extensive research it is research um all right uh went ahead to hasty's harvey history
00:12:14
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Let's do it.
00:12:31
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All right. Time for Hastie's Hargaret History, Georgia Tech Edition. As always, Jason Hastie sends us in something relevant for ah the week. And always your remind folks, you can go and hang out with Jason and check out some artifacts at the Hargaret Library in Athens. And he he also does tours every Friday, without although I would imagine not this Friday on on Black Friday. All right. This week's installment of Hastie's Harvard history was initially to be about the Titanic clash between number five, Georgia, and number two tech in Athens on November 28th, 1942. The clash that Georgia won 34 to nothing and which sent us to the Rose bowl. That was the last clean old fashioned hate game that carried national championship implications for both teams and would have provided a historical context to what should have been a high stakes game in Mercedes Benz stadium this coming Friday, but tech lost a pit.
00:13:22
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So that storyline changed. Instead, we will look at an incident that was mentioned briefly in last week's installment of Hastie's Harvard History, the discontinuation of athletic relations between Georgia and Tech during the first half of the 1920s.
00:13:36
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The athletic relationship between Georgia and Tech started out well. During Georgia's first ever game in Atlanta on February 20th, 1892, Tech's students cheered for the red and black during the game against Auburn with their cry, Techity Tech, who wrecks, who wrecks, boom rah, boom rah, Georgia.
00:13:53
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Tech's first visit to Athens on November 4th, 1893, which was the first game of the season that year, ended with an angry mob of students and townspeople chasing Tech's team to the train station, crying foul at Tech's use of non-Tech students and at least one member of the U.S. Army on their team.
00:14:10
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During George's next appearance against Auburn in Atlanta on ah November 24, 1894, Tech students cheered heartily for the orange and blue. Tensions between the two baseball programs began to amount in 1907, with a botched call costing the Red and Black Nine a game.
00:14:26
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Tech denied Stedman Sanford's request for rematch to clear up the matter and publicly mocked him for asking. Throughout the pre-war period, Tech and Georgia students and supporters battled with words, with poor sportsmanship in the grandstands, and with fists before, during, and after football and baseball games.
00:14:43
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The real cause of the break, though, was World War I. Georgia, as discussed last week, shuttered its athletic program for the duration of the war, as men were expected to either join the military straight away or else train for combat while waiting to join.
00:14:56
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Tech took the opposite approach. They kept their athletics programs running, feeling that football especially was excellent training for combat. John Heisman's 1917 Golden Tornado team ran roughshod over its competition of smaller schools and schools whose rosters were depleted because of men who had joined the military.
00:15:12
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Tech allowed only 17 points all season and shut out seven opponents. Joe Guyon, who played for Pop Warner's Carlisle Indian School team during the 1912 and 1913 seasons, was a star for Tech's team at the age of 25. Tech claims a national championship for 1917.
00:15:30
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During the annual Senior Day parade in Athens in the spring of 1919, Georgia students mocked Tech's refusal to curtail its athletics programs during the war, despite that several Tech athletes had volunteered for military service, and at least one lost his life.
00:15:43
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Georgia seniors paraded a mocked-up tank with the words, Georgia in France, 1918, on one side. The tank might have had the words, Georgia in the Argonne, a particularly vicious battle fought by American forces, 1918, on the other side, though sources do agree disagree on this.
00:15:59
Speaker
To mock Tech, they drove a car decorated in Tech's colors behind the tank with Georgia students wearing women's clothing walking alongside it. The message was not subtle. Georgia athletes were men who'd gone off to France to do their duty, while Tech's athletes hid at home because they weren't masculine enough to have joined the military.
00:16:16
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The display infuriated Tech's administration and was the final straw that broke off relations between the two schools. Tech's president, David Crenshaw, informed Stedman Sanford that Tech would no longer schedule athletics contests with the university.
00:16:28
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The schools met occasionally in basketball tournaments, but there were no regular season contests scheduled between the schools until 1924, when the hardest feelings about the Senior Day incident had mostly passed.
00:16:39
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They agreed to resume the football rivalry in 1925. Clark Howell, editor of the Atlanta Constitution, hoped that each school should do their utmost to make each game a contest between friends and brothers, clean-cut and hard-fought, but always on the high plane of gentlemanly sportsmanship.
00:16:55
Speaker
Whether or not the teams and fans honor that call to gentlemanly sports sportsmanship, clean old-fashioned hate survives to this day. To close this, this is still from Jason. To close this, I would like to mention my debt to the master's thesis, Let Honor Fall, Georgia Football and Lost Cause Mentality,
00:17:11
Speaker
eighteen ninety two to nineteen twenty five published by Victoria Burkow in 2017. Victoria, I hope i said your name correctly. um This thesis is an excellent resource for the incidents related above, as well as a thorough analysis of the tragic death of Von Gammon in 1896 and the peculiar role of women in athletics during that era. This thesis is available through the UGA Library's website.
00:17:35
Speaker
So if you want to go check that out, you can head over to the site to do so. So thanks, Jason, as always. And man, I think we got to get the full backstory or a portion of the full backstory on the where clean old fashioned hate comes from.
00:17:49
Speaker
Amen. Amen. All right. um Let's see. Let's hit the news and notes, John. A couple of things, um actual like news. CJ Allen was named a butet one of the five Butkus Award finalists. So that was pretty cool. And as well, Brett Thorson was named one of the three Ray Guy Award finalists. So some accolades for some current dogs for their their work they put in thus far this season.
00:18:16
Speaker
And then on the press conference front, um just always kind of go through there on the injury report. You know, Chauncey Bowens rested last week, did not play against Charlotte. Kirby said that his it looks good for Chauncey. And then for Drew Bobo and Ernest Green, he said they're both doing great.
00:18:35
Speaker
Both are completely available. Also good news on Kyron Jones. He said we were hopeful to get Kyron Jones back last week. um Obviously that didn't happen. So a bit of a hopeful kiss of death there for Kyron.
00:18:47
Speaker
And then on CJ Allen, he said, yeah, he's working his tail off doing the best he can to be available when he can. So I'm not, I'm not sure. i think for those guys, it's some kind of questionable.
00:18:59
Speaker
If I had to guess, I would say we would not see them this week, but we shall see if we get CJ Allen this week. That'd be amazing, but I'm not gonna, not gonna hold my breath on that. Yes, seriously.
00:19:10
Speaker
That would be amazing. I would take it, Jim. Yeah, for sure. For sure. um Okay, let's get into the game. Let's let's talk about

Game Expectations and Environment Discussion

00:19:19
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this matchup. um So kind of the macro level type stuff we tend to do, they actually are slightly better in net yards per play than us. They're at 1.18, Georgia's at 1.13. They are struggling more in the turnover margin than we are. We are minus one, like in the red. On turnover margin, Georgia Tech is actually minus six.
00:19:40
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um And so what I have seen is they actually don't, they're that's like a defense thing. So their defense only has six takeaways. So that's kind of the difference there between Georgia and Georgia Tech.
00:19:53
Speaker
All right, let's talk about what we're looking for when the dogs hit the ball, John. um So it's a couple ah notable tech players to watch out for. Leading tackler is Kyle Efford. He's back. he was We saw him last year. He's a junior. He's got 68 total tackles and one and a half sacks on the season. Rodney Shelley is a senior defensive back. He's got one pick on the season. And Akilo Stone is a senior defensive lineman with four sacks on the year.
00:20:21
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From, I mean, what I have looked at um and really just from what I've seen with them, this is where they struggle. So as far as like in terms of the FBS, they don't like as far as like overall ranking, their defense doesn't rank even up to 75th in any category that we track in a category that we track. They are in points per game. They're one hundred and seventh in the FPS and total yards given up. So the the defense has been a bit of a struggle for Tech this year.
00:20:54
Speaker
Yeah, um i was just I was just about to tweet out something while we were sitting here talking about why i was what I was going to be ah looking for here. The defense is absolutely going to be their Achilles heel in this game. It's the Achilles heel of the entire team.
00:21:13
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um You look at all their all of their numbers align pretty nicely with ours, but there's definitely a red herring for for everyone. Yeah.
00:21:23
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Yeah. And like watching that, I mean, the, the pit game is the game that I've watched the most of years. I watched a decent amount of Clemson, watch a little bit of the Syracuse game. And i mean, they can, you could definitely, i feel like what they are struggling with is what we're good at too.
00:21:41
Speaker
Honestly, like, um, they'd given up like 167 yards rushing game. They were 96 in the country rushing yards allowed per game. yeah rushing yards allowed for game so I mean, I would look for a healthy dose of, especially if Bowens is is is a go, healthy dose of Bowens, Nate Frazier, and then, you know, shoot Gunner to run it and feed Branch and all the tight ends and receivers.
00:22:07
Speaker
and think I think it stacks well for our offense. Yeah, I mean, so if you look at like, if you look at everything, Jim, are we going to jump into the, you know, the tech offense versus Georgia defense? Like, how are we going to roll here?
00:22:23
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We can go to that. Okay. So if you look at things from an offensive perspective, tech has a slight edge. you know There's some arguments to be made about the people that they've played and all those kinds of things, but from a straight-up advanced stats number, and if you haven't checked out DogStats, what do we call it? A portal over at Speakeasy?
00:22:44
Speaker
Channel over at Speakeasy? Definitely go and check that out because it is... very helpful for aligning the matchups.
00:22:55
Speaker
Yeah. um You can see things very clearly and you'll see very quickly when you look at the comparison for Georgia and Georgia tech, that very clearly they have a grid offense.
00:23:07
Speaker
We also have a pretty good offense as well. The defense as we alluded to just a minute ago is Georgia tech's problem. um So if they allow their average defensive success rate versus our offense, that's basically our average offensive success rate. And so if you would wager a margin to guess, like if Georgia just stayed on the success rate schedule that we were on, i feel like that you would like us in this game as a, as a, you know, a non-biased observer or whatever.
00:23:43
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um The defense, though, our defense is significantly better than their defense, and we're going to knock them down from their season average. And so that's going to put them into a very difficult spot from an offensive standpoint where they may be in the when they may end up chasing the game, and that's going to get them into trouble.
00:24:07
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You just look at the net yards per play. ah Net yards per play, we basically outpace them by a full yard per per play. Yeah.
00:24:18
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Yeah. Um, the, like the, the individuals, I mean, obviously like, I mean, this team starts and ends with Haynes King. Um, right you know, he, he was up there. has been hopeful a few, a few weeks ago, at least but yeah before the pit loss, um, 2,500 yards passing 12 touchdowns, four picks. Uh, he's also their leading rusher, uh, 883 yards and 15 rushing touchdowns.
00:24:43
Speaker
Um, um, Malachi Hosley, rosley he's he's their leading rusher. But like Jamal Haynes, I would say, is kind of like their number one back, but he's he's behind Hosley in in rushing thus far this season. um And then as far as their wideouts, Eric Rivers is senior. He's a transfer, 536 yards and one touchdown. He's their leading receiver. And then Isaiah Canyon, sophomore receiver, four touchdowns and 426 yards receiving. So just a a few of the folks to to be out on the lookout for. I think like last year, um I'll give a call out to the ah the locked on guys. I saw they they were talking about this a bit. Like you know people trying to kind of compare the eight overtime game last year to to this year.
00:25:28
Speaker
And their point was like a big difference was Georgia really struggled to stop the run just in general last year, like the entire season. And that has not been the case this year. So last year they were definitely, you know, they were able to take advantage of that. um But this is a different Georgia defense than, than last year. Also their best receiver that the gaseous last year, like he's at Auburn.
00:25:48
Speaker
So. Yeah. Yeah. yeah um I think that they still, don't know. I think they're going to get some yards. They're going to get some plays, obviously.
00:25:58
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um I think that this is this very much for Georgia. Sets up like a know protect the ball, win the game kind of kind of thing. 100%. I totally agree. I think that this is you know, don't turn the ball over. No boneheaded throws like we had against Charlotte kind of thing. Don't force the ball downfield. Just stay on schedule. Don't chase points if we need it.
00:26:22
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yeah I know that Jim, you're going to be concerned about that. i can I actually can hear Lily still being mad about going for two last year. ah Like earlier in the game. I was like, if we didn't go for two earlier, we would have just kicked an extra point to win the game in regulation.
00:26:39
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ah But yeah, yeah, I'm with you. That's his life. Yeah, I think that it's it's it literally is just going to come down to protect the ball, win the game. Yeah, I will say too, like this is one where like, um like we've said, their offense is, i mean, it is a good offense. Like there's no way around it. They're their fifth in the FBS on like total yards gained per game. It's like, it's a good offense. So with that, with their offense, I would say this is one those games where like, don't get flustered and don't be shocked if they move the ball in the first drive. Like if they get the ball and go down score, like, don't be shocked. Like this is, this is one of those games. This is one of those offenses where that would not surprise me. And so we, and we can send the the Kirby, like calm down gift maybe or something for everyone. If that happens, I would not be shocked. I would not be shocked by that, but I would then look for us to, to adjust like we've been doing all season.
00:27:37
Speaker
Agreed. I think that it's going to be one of those situations where um stay the course, don't crash out. ah quote Quote me on this in the text thread, Jim, for when I do eventually crash out.
00:27:50
Speaker
um But don't crash out. I think that this is very much going to be a this is very much a good offense. I think what they were is of like a few weeks ago, they were the number one offense in the country, right?
00:28:05
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're good. They're good. i mean, Buster Faulkner, you know, so they are used to be on staff at Georgia under Munkin and he has, he has figured out how to utilize hand King and like maximize his skillset.
00:28:16
Speaker
So. Yeah, I think that Buster Faulkner was largely acc credited with a lot of the Stetson, some of the Stetson-esque things that Stetson did. And it's Haynes King is very much like a Stetson-Bennett type character, I feel like.
00:28:33
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um But yeah, yeah mean and I think for us, it's ultimately going to come down to just protect the ball, win the game. Yeah. and Protect the ball, win the game, trenches, all those things. like Just to do the do your job. Do your job. as as One of the quotes that I saw in the victory highlights that the program put out from the Charlotte game was BYOJ, bring your own juice.
00:28:59
Speaker
and I like that. Yeah, that was was amazing. Bring your own juice. like Everybody just do your job, bring your own juice, and you'll be good to go. I love it. Love it.
00:29:10
Speaker
um Cool. Let's, say I guess anything else there? i got I got like one special team thing or two special team things. I mean, from an offensive standpoint, um I think, like I said, Stacey's working on getting invited to New Year's Eve, the New Year's Eve party. um He's already got the Christmas card. The Christmas card's in the mail.
00:29:33
Speaker
We've got the Christmas party invitation. So now we're working on New Year's Day festivities as well. Um, yeah, I think that, I think that this team is, as I heard on, um, uh, what do you call it? The, what's the PFPF guys? Um, the PFF.
00:29:52
Speaker
Yeah. PFF. That's what it is. PFF. Uh, I think I heard on a PFF analysis. Um, I do not want to be a team that's playing Georgia when Georgia has figured it, has figured things out. Yeah. Um,
00:30:07
Speaker
Dude, hearken back to the road game against... was it Was it the Mississippi State game or the Auburn game? I can't remember which one it was, but um it was one of those away games where it was an early game and they played the video from the parents.
00:30:25
Speaker
And I feel like that... ah We talked about this, like that that was going to be a spark for the season, I feel like. and You look back and it feels very much like that's what's playing out. like Ever since they were reminded about having fun and what this was like growing up and going out and doing the hard things when you were a kid. and i feel like that they they the this staff was able to tap into some...
00:30:54
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something deep inside and they've been able to flip the script yeah a that was miss it was mississippi state that was the game when they did that because it was like that 11 o'clock local kickoff right um and they find that and then the the theme that emerged um that from what we've heard about with that video is like uh that they hate to lose uh know like that's one of the things that they these ah kids all were like well was they they hated to lose so Um, I, the only other thing I was going to add too, is just like the environment, right? Like, as far as like, they've got this, there's really good offense dealing with our defense.
00:31:30
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Um, and they, they're not going to have the home crowd. I mean, to be honest, right. i mean, with it, with it being here, they're getting paid a lot of money for this. Um, but I think they're going to have given up the, the home field advantage, especially after the result last week.
00:31:46
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So. Yeah, I think so. It'll be interesting to see what the crowd makeup is here. yeah ah i think if I'm a Georgia Tech alumni, um I'm not happy about the situation because, I mean, I think what the face value on these things is like 200 bucks or something like that. I mean, you and I were messaging like it's almost this this this ticket is almost as expensive as the current prices for the SEC championship game.
00:32:11
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Yeah. Wow. Wow. Which is crazy. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, let's see. So for the special teams, I was just going to go over their specialists. So Aiden Burr is their junior place kicker. He's good. Perfect on extra points, 42 of 42, and he's 22 of 25 on field goals. And then their punter, they do not take special teams seriously. However, their punter is not Australian. Marshall Nichols, he is a senior punter. He does average almost 48 yards a punt, so like 47.5. nine, six yards punt. Uh, so it seems like he's pretty good. Uh, but he's not Australian. Uh, he's from Atlanta.
00:32:48
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He went to Holy innocence, uh, Episcopal school. If I, so local, local kid, uh, planning for tech. All right. That's all I got in the special teams. I got nothing other than we're still hunting for that.
00:33:02
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Like right branch. Hmm. Yeah. So teams touchdown. Yeah. He's been close. He definitely, something we didn't talk about because we didn't talk about the game much in the Charlotte review. But but like he wanted he wanted a punt return, touchdown big time against Charlotte. He's putting the effort in there.
00:33:21
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Never happened, but you can tell he wants one. Yeah. I think that that kind of summarizes these games. I think I mentioned to someone on Twitter that, you know, all bets are off in a rivalry game. We just talked about the advanced stats and what the advanced stats showcase and Vegas has its thoughts obviously as well.
00:33:41
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um But these games come down to who wants it more. I mean, period, end of story, these in-state rivalries, how many times we we've we've been talking about the voodoo at Jordan-Hare, particularly in the Alabama games, but like these rivalry games...
00:33:59
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are highlighted by fire, passion, and energy and whoever has the most of it. So I I'm, I'm hopeful that, uh, the team has resonated all the different messaging that we've had all season long.
00:34:13
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They have a thousand percent stepped up their effort. Um, and I think that like, like we've talked about multiple weeks, it feels like at this point, like they're just peaking at the right moment.
00:34:26
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Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. All right, let's really hit the listener questions. Yes. All right. ah As always, we'll remind you that the listener questions are brought to you by Working Web Media.
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00:35:00
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And they will know that we sent you their way. right. We're going to start it off as we always do, JP, with the building bonus TMTMTM from our friend Brett Belding. Number one, do you think Brent Key would leave for LSU, Florida, or another big job?
00:35:16
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I hope not. I kind of feel like, what are we doing? um If that were to be the case. So i my answer is no. you Your opinion may vary there, JP. I don't think that he will.
00:35:27
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um i don't, not yet anyway. I don't know that he has reached the level of, i guess I should say had he won last week, I feel like that the likelihood would have been greater for sure.
00:35:40
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um But since they're sitting here, basically irrelevant, I don't know that he's going to be one of those hot coaching commodities in the off season. But I also don't think that he's deserved it yet, but I do think that at some point a bigger program is going to come calling for him.
00:35:58
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And at this day and age, like i so I've said it multiple times, like at this point, the coaching carousel is a retirement strategy. That's true. That's true. That's fair.
00:36:09
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And then his second question is Haynes King and anomaly, or do we expect this team to be this good next year? um I do remember. don't know if you remember this, like they've got a kid that they red shirt is last year who we expected to start actually against Georgia. And then they like, I guess, let him rest and to preserve his red shirt. And cause Haynes King had been hurt. So that kid's still there. Philo, he's, he's he's still there. i mean, he's pretty good. um So I think the question kind of goes, for me, it actually goes back to the last one. Like if Brent Key, you know, stays and is is still there, don't think they'll be as good as they were this year.
00:36:49
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um But i do I do feel like he has made Key's made a big difference there. i mean, you could see it pretty instantly when he was named the interim even. So I don't i don't think it's a necessarily just maybe top 10, top 5 or whatever. But I don't think it's sit up i don't think it's a full-on anomaly.
00:37:10
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Yeah. Okay. Brett also had the bonus bonus tech hasn't beaten Georgia at historic Mark Rickfield since the Clinton, miss since the Clinton administration. And even then sinks was down. Is this the longest such streak?
00:37:24
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So this, this, um, goes back. Actually, going to relate something to, I emailed Jason hasty today to tell him that like his history, uh, lined up perfectly. I was already doing some research to try to answer Brett's question. Um,
00:37:40
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The answer technically is no, this is not the longest such streak. um So yes, Tech has not won in Atlanta since 1999. Yes, Jasper was down.
00:37:51
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Technically, the way this was worded, no, there was a longer streak. However, it includes that World War one gap where we weren't playing each other. So we won a game Athens in 1899.
00:38:06
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We did not win in Athens again until 1929. um So that was the gap there. But like i said, and like as Jason said, there was a huge gap where we weren't even playing each other. The other thing was we also used to play in Atlanta a lot back then. So there were some times where we won, I think, like three or four years in a row. but they were just all happened to be in Atlanta. Like we weren't alternating home and home back then. So technically no. i don't know if that, if that counts. So I know this is, this is going to tie like a, like a streak, right? Yeah.
00:38:38
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Yes. So we are going for eight here, eight in a row. Last year would have been eight. We would have been going for eight. Well, if you assume we could have been going for eight minus COVID, right? So we didn't play each other in 2020. Tech owns the longest winning streak at eight.
00:38:59
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ah We got so excited when we ended the that streak that we retired a guy's jersey because of it, the streak ender, Theron Sapp. Um, this is the third time we've gone for eight in a row.
00:39:11
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So we won seven in a row from 91 to 97 loss in Athens in 98. And then we won seven in a row from 2001 to 2007 and then lost in Athens in 2008.
00:39:22
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Um, but since, uh, Brett brought this up, John, um, I'm going to hold this up. So this is proof of my, um, pack rat stuff. I have a newspaper.
00:39:35
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Yes! I have a newspaper. This is the, um let's see here, looking for the date. yeah I can't find the date. Okay, December 1st, 19, Wednesday, December 1st, 1999. This is the Atlanta Journal.
00:39:48
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At the the bottom of the front page, this is not even the sports page, there is a headline that says, O'Leary, so this is back to George O'Leary days, O'Leary, dogs get a life. the The subheadline was Fumble Fallout. Entire crew that gave ball to Tech is suspended by SEC.
00:40:05
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um So take that to the Auburn crew this year, I guess, if there was all that stuff. The entire um crew from that 1999 game was suspended. There was an SEC crew in that game of Tech. They were supposed to officiate the upcoming SEC championship game, and they actually pulled that entire crew. So, again, this is that. here's Trying to get that.
00:40:28
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I see it. Okay. So, yeah. So I recently came across, I was actually throwing out some stuff, shocking, um and saw that and saved it for this episode. So that's awesome.
00:40:41
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right. You're not going to throw that one away though. No, it's going to go back in the pile with the other ones. That's historical. That's historical. Back in back in the hoarder. Back in the hoarder hole you go. That's right. Back in the attic.
00:40:55
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right. We'll go on to... ah Sorry. And then his hashtags. Hashtag THWGT. Tell George's Deck and GoDogs. Amen. All right. We'll head over to 51-7 GATA. With the possibility of so many teams finishing tenon two is clean old-fashioned hate and now and must win to get into the playoff? Assuming the dogs don't get into the SEC championship game.
00:41:18
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I will say the the thing that could make you like nervous about something like that

Playoff Implications and Rivalry Games

00:41:23
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was Alabama. was I think Alabama was fourth. They lost to Oklahoma, and they dropped from four to ten.
00:41:28
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So we've seen the the number four team lose, get to their second second loss, and drop six spots. That has happened this season. So, I mean, if you're at ten, you're still going to get in.
00:41:40
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um So even if you drop six spots from four to ten, you're still in the playoff. So I would say, i mean, i definitely feel like a home Like that by slash home game scenario, I think that's on the line for sure. And you're on the edge of the playoff as well.
00:41:55
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I still don't see how you keep Georgia out of the playoff, even if we were to lose this game. But yeah, but you could lose, you could lose, ah you could lose that home game, that first round home game. You have to go in the road. Right. Right.
00:42:08
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Yeah. Yeah. And then he spelled out GAT, which could be interesting too. Yeah. Yeah. Could be. I mean, right now we're sitting with that rare, uh, double buy things were, things were to hold. That'd be so ridiculous. If we ended up with a double buy, like Kirby Kirby's playing 3d chess now. i yeah Seriously. Uh, and then, uh, he spelled out GATA for us. Get after Texas.
00:42:34
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Amen. All right, let's head to John Michael D. Little Stitious Ready. What are three things you clean old fascist love about Thanksgiving?
00:42:45
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How about you, JP? What are some things you clean old fascist love about Thanksgiving? I love the family time that you get at Thanksgiving. um i love the pomp and circumstance that goes into the prep, the parade, like, you know, the traditions that you have. of You know, I asked my kids this question, like, what what do you what are some of your favorite side items? Like, what do you like to eat at Thanksgiving and things like that?
00:43:11
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Yeah. And shocker, like they don't agree on anything. um So I like that. um i' not working man i like not working, not working.
00:43:24
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Time off. Welcome time off. yeah That's true. That's a good one. Yeah. that's a good way those are Those are my three things. Okay. Okay. I like it. I like it. um Yeah. i did ah you know the family The family, the food, and the football.
00:43:41
Speaker
um And man, we got it we've got a triple header of college football ball on Black Friday. So I guess that's the the day after. So that's going to be pretty sweet. i feel like I feel like it's like the the the dudes, well, the football lovers version of of Black Friday, I guess I should say, especially since ah Lily probably would be ah glued to the couch more so than wanting to go out Black Friday shopping. Okay, so here I'll i'll get into a what something is going going on. So we're going to at Fripp and on Black Friday or on whatever, the day of Thanksgiving, Fripp does like ah like a Christmas like golf cart thing. You ride around and then like so and then Santa comes.
00:44:24
Speaker
And so it's Santa comes and you can go sit on Santa's lap. And so we generally do that, but it's on Friday. So it's going to during the game. And so Lily was like, I'm staying in the house. i say im like good with that ah So yeah, insight. And so confirm, it confirm John.
00:44:41
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Yeah. Can confirm. um Yeah. That's yeah. What he also added. What if any are things you clean old fashioned hate about Thanksgiving?
00:44:52
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This is going be an incredibly vitriolic hot take, but I do not like stuffing and dressing. not ah Not a big fan of those those items.
00:45:04
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Okay. Okay. I'm not a stuffing person, but I do like dressing. Okay. Yeah. Which Bobby was so eloquently articulating the difference between the two. I saw that.
00:45:16
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so If you hadn't seen it on Twitter, I believe that the consensus was that stuffing was a bread-based item that goes inside of the turkey for obvious reasons.
00:45:26
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And that dressing was a cornbread-based item that is a side dish. I agree. Yes, I thought he explained it correctly. or here His explanation matched my understanding, I guess I'll say.
00:45:40
Speaker
Correct. Although I have seen people cook the stuffing not inside the turkey for sanitary reasons. I have heard of that as well. Yes. Yes. We don't do the stuffing, so i don't know. I guess I know.
00:45:52
Speaker
I'm just not a, I don't know. I don't know what it is. It's just not my thing. Not my thing. Okay. Okay. Um, yeah, i don't know. I don't, I'll say I don't partake at least like on foot again, i guess this is Thanksgiving weekend.
00:46:07
Speaker
i don't like to do the black Friday shopping. Like personally, like I'm not going to go out and go and deal with, with that. Um, so I'm more of a, uh, online, ah take advantage of some sales potentially kind of thing. So,
00:46:19
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, dude. we leave we're We're not savages anymore. don't need to be fighting over Tickle Me Elmo's at the mall. Yeah. like Go to Walmart and fight for the TV or whatever. no and they do They do still have... like I feel like the i feel like that the retailers, American retailers, are shading things more towards the people like you that are just not all about going out to the sales industry.
00:46:44
Speaker
But they do cater to those crazy people that get up at 4 a.m. and go out and wait in line and do all things like they have the door busters that you can get your hands on, like, you know, the the hundred dollar, you know, 60 inch TVs and things like that.
00:46:59
Speaker
Yeah. I just it's just not worth it to me. ah We went right into the question and I left out his clarifier. We should all clean old-fashioned hate. This game is at Mercedes-Benz on a Friday. So that doesn't count. so I do. I do hate that this game is at Mercedes-Benz.
00:47:16
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Josh somewhere is like is like preaching like, amen, play games on college campuses. He's sending it the gif of the kid like with his hand up. Yeah. All right. that's a good That's a good segue to Herman Wood. He wants to know what is your favorite memory from Grant Field?
00:47:33
Speaker
My favorite memory from Grant Field was when I took um for and four three generations of ah my family's boys there. um lindsaey's Lindsey's dad, brother, and Carter were there with us the last time that we went to um we went to Bobby Dodd.
00:47:57
Speaker
um that was That was pretty fun. That was pretty special. Wasn't it like 2021? Wasn't it like when like Brock Bowers like went crazy? Yeah, that was the Brock Bowers game. o Yeah.
00:48:09
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. That just adds to it. ah done Correct. Correct. And we were all sitting on the side like, yeah, that's a that's a good memory for a lot of different reasons.
00:48:22
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. um Let's see. For me, as far as like being there, I'd probably go 2001 because that ended a three-game winning streak for Tech.
00:48:35
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um and So i was i was there for that one. ah i remember i remember Fred Gibson had a huge catch down the sideline. Ron Haynes run ran wild over them. And Tim Wonsley had a pick six on George Godsey to seal it. So ah I'll go with that one.
00:48:52
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All right, golands let's go to Fletcher Proctor. He said, I'll be listening to the game Friday as I drive back from back home from Texas. My question, are you able to ignore social media and watch a game hours after it happened without knowledge of the outcome? My anxiety will not allow it. Dogs by 90.
00:49:09
Speaker
i I can't do that anymore. I used to do that like pre social media and like pre DVR. Like god we once were flying home during a bowl game um and we were playing in like the Oahu or whatever, the Hawaii bowl, one of the bowls and they used to be in Hawaii and we were flying home from Montana and couldn't watch it. So like actually Kim recorded the game for me on VHS and we watched when we got home.
00:49:38
Speaker
But nowadays, I can't. I've tried, but I don't know. my take now is you can listen to the stream on the app. So i feel I kind of feel like you can always just have some headphones with you and do that. So I haven't even tried that in a while.
00:49:54
Speaker
I think that in in even in to this day and age, like you can always watch on your phone kind of thing. like yeah I would watch while Carter played soccer kind of thing.
00:50:05
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um But I have absolutely been able to turn things off and not and not do it and just watch it. I mean, I've done that with you guys a couple times. Like, I'll just turn off all the notifications yeah and not look at not look at social media and not talk to anybody because everybody will say something.
00:50:28
Speaker
um yeah and I'll just, I'll play catch up. I'll right, just caught up. Like I've done, I feel like I've done that a couple of times. I've definitely, yes. Can confirm that text does come through sometimes. I've got up like, oh, sorry. Is there, we were bombarding you with like spoilers. Yeah. And then I'll, and then I'll like scroll back and like find all the stuff. I'm like, yeah, this song. Like, okay. So there's the good, there's a good advice. You've got, you've got to prep for that and like turn off all your notifications for text and everything.
00:50:56
Speaker
Yes, exactly. 100%. You gotta to just go go completely do not disturb on your on your cell phone. um And then Jim will be like, Jibby must be watching on delay.
00:51:09
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Wait till you get to this part.
00:51:14
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ah ah But yeah, it's I think it is possible. um Anxiety is not something that I'm too worried about these days, but I can understand how that would feel. Yeah.
00:51:27
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um yeah Yeah. I will say Fletcher, if you're looking for a method, I would definitely just do the, yeah. Download the Georgia app and you can stream Scott Howard and and crew. Depending on what kind of a vehicle, depending on what kind of vehicle you have. I don't know that you can, I don't know that you could procure procure one of these devices before Friday at this point, but um they do make these, um,
00:51:55
Speaker
these plugin devices that are, that turn your, like if you have one of those like touchscreen situations where it kind of hacks into the system and basically allows you to mirror your phone onto that screen. Got it.
00:52:12
Speaker
I've seen, I've seen those, those I've been targeted with those ads because I've, I'm in that algorithm, I guess. And I've been like, Ooh, that would be pretty awesome. But I've yet to pull the trigger on it, but they look super cool.
00:52:25
Speaker
Okay. Basically turns it into like a a streaming device kind of thing. Right. Right. Right. Gotcha. right. Well, Fletcher, best of luck listing as you as you travel home.
00:52:37
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Yeah. All right, let's hit Ryan Heinco. Doesn't have a question, just a statement. says He says he told his kids there would be no Christmas if we don't beat the Georgia North Avenue trade school. ah Told them to call their mom's family, one Nat alumni, and a bunch of Nat fans, and cry to them.
00:52:52
Speaker
Then we just set up the tree anyway. So i think that was I think that was the right move. um I will say tree. Jeff Dancer approves. Jeff Dancer approves. We haven't done the tree yet here either. Waiting until we get back from Thanksgiving. So yeah I like it.
00:53:07
Speaker
we haven't set I haven't set up my tree yet either for obvious reasons. but Yeah, yeah. um Let's go to Shinobu. ah UGA Hoops Shinobu. Where would the 1997 game rank on a list of games between Georgia and Georgia Tech? Then went on to say my favorite was 2017 and 19, and last year as well, 78 was wonderful and very underrated game. Yeah, those are all good ones.
00:53:33
Speaker
1997 has a special place for me. That was my senior year high school. um i think yeahve I've mentioned multiple times, like my kind of core group of friends, we kind of like went Georgia and Georgia Tech as well as our our college days. And we had ah one like close buddy who was a year ahead of us in school and he was a freshman at Tech. um We were supposed to go to that game, but had a snafu where...
00:53:56
Speaker
He lost his keys and the tickets were in his dorm. and we could we We couldn't get to our tickets. But watching it on TV, that was that was a big one. So I don't know. that that's ah That one ranks pretty high. That one works ranks pretty high for me. And then ah i kind I guess as far as close games, um that's a good one.
00:54:16
Speaker
Last year was a great one. Shoot, man. I even like like the Cannon Parkman field goal one from like whenever that was, I think 95. So, all right, let's do, let's go to all school. um All school. Do you think Kirby will will remind the guys of last year's game? Do we really need motivation to stay focused? They hate us. They want to ruin our season. How do we best approach this game mentally?
00:54:37
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um I would say that um they ah they're definitely going to be reminding them of to not take these guys lightly because this is the same quarterback that you know willed them into overtime versus us kind of thing.
00:54:52
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um I don't know that they'll they'll obviously have motivation, but as far as like the mental components, like Kirby will have those guys dialed in. i don't know i don't know how, what the best approach would be.
00:55:06
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um But I think that it'll center around playing for the G um and not losing to these guys. And Kirby will have a unique perspective on that. Yeah, agree. I got nothing to add to that.
00:55:19
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him Let's go to Bubby Dean. Where does clean old fashioned rank in the list of year end rivalries? mean, I, I think it's hard pressed to not put the iron bowl up there at the top.
00:55:31
Speaker
I think that's as far as like just the one people, people know. And that one's been so, so crazy. But it's up there. i mean, for me, i don know i think like Iron Bowl, the game, Ohio State, Michigan, ah Texas, Texas A&M. Now with that one back and in the Egg Bowl um in Georgia, Georgia, Georgia Tech.
00:55:50
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I mean, shoot, the the Black Friday lineup of the Egg Bowl, the old fashioned hate, and then Texas against A&M at night is that's beautiful. I love getting all three of those in-state rivalry games on on Black Friday. I think i think that's pretty cool.
00:56:03
Speaker
Yeah, I think that, um i mean, got to have Harvard Yale and Army, Navy, like those those have been around for substantially longer times. Okay. um any Shoot, even Auburn, Georgia has been around for really long time as well.
00:56:22
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Yeah. Yeah, i was I mean, I'd say it it probably ranks up there. um i think it just depends on where you're where you're from. Yeah, yeah. i i'd i'd put in oregon Oregon State, you know, like the Civil War, but which is kind of wild. but is that That's not at the end of the year anymore, though, I don't think. Oh, right, right, right, right. Fair enough. But it be. Again, what are we doing?
00:56:46
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but Right, right, right, right. I'd say top five. I'd put it in the top five. That's fair. That's fair. Um, we talked about this. How amazing is the fact that tech hasn't won in Atlanta, uh, since the OT win in 99.
00:56:58
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It's glorious. Um, is an insect, the weakest mascot in college football, good dogs, be tech. we We run this state. I don't know. mean, I guess you can get it with a fly swatter. Um, you can swat it, but I know I was going to say like, there are mass scots that are like trees, like Stanford has a tree, although it is hard to cut down a tree. So I guess you could argue that. i mean, there's mascots that are like and a wave. Hey, you got to respect the ocean. The ocean's powerful. Respect the ocean. I'm trying to think. What else?
00:57:31
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um I mean, there's just like a color. Orange. That's right. The Syracuse orange. The Syracuse orange mint. That's true. um How weak? Oh, there's there's a... I don't know. how do is Is an insect weaker than... Well, I guess the horned frogs.
00:57:49
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they They probably eat the insect. I could. you know You know who could answer this question? mike Leach. Yeah.
00:58:00
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Ah, pours pours one out. Oh, man, he was he was so good right he that would have been that would have been a good. That would have been a good question to ask him, for sure. 100% would have been, because he would have had like a legitimate answer. Yeah.
00:58:17
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ah All right. um Let's see. We've got one from a friend of the show, Roddy Nabolsi. We've had Roddy's been on the show before. Hey, Roddy. Roddy checks in and wants to know, does this game mean more to Kirby than Florida?
00:58:32
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thought this was a good one. it I don't know. ah Yeah. i yeah That was my general reaction. don't man. I don't know, man. I think that, I mean, this hat, while applicable, um that phrase originates from beating Florida.
00:58:52
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Yeah. um yeah I think that he hates, I think that he truly, truly hates Florida. I think that he just, I don't know. I also think that he hates Georgia Tech, just maybe, he's kind of you know He's in our our generation that probably hates Florida a little bit more because they're an SEC opponent.
00:59:10
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Well, I think i think yeah we've talked before about how your younger days shape you as a fan. And obviously, i know it's different as as a player, but let's think about his his playing days, right? i mean, he was on the field when Spurrier, as they say, hung half a hundred on the dogs in Athens. He played in that game. um He did win most his only loss against Georgia Tech, he only lost Georgia Tech once. So his his senior year 1998, did lose that game. So that was frustrating. That had a kind controversial ending. I will say he was an assistant.
00:59:44
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um Like he was like a grad assistant um in 1999. So he was a coach in that year that Jasper was down the last time we lost at, at Georgia tech. So those things were both there. So if I had to guess, I'd still probably say second um considering he only had that He had one loss against tech. He only had one win against Florida as a player. So I'm with you there. All right, let's go to Chris Haddock at Dr. Dog 1996.
01:00:18
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Do you still smile when thinking of Reggie Ball throwing that fourth down pass out of bounds? Yes, absolutely. And he he's been showing up in my feed lately. He was on a podcast, some Atlanta podcast recently. um And it's been interesting. I keep keep seeing him pop it up.
01:00:35
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Let's see. Jasper Sanks non-fumble still terribly upsetting. No. Yes, absolutely. I still have a newspaper that I held up earlier about it. Let's see. Given the chance, would you eat the turf a la Ben Jones? I would.
01:00:48
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And then Ford Hill attack. and Would you eat the turf? Absolutely. You need, you need a little bit of crazy. You need a little bit of crazy. If particularly if, if I had a freaking monster man ripping it up, I definitely would grab a hunk of it. That was a, that was a wild moment. That was a wild moment.
01:01:08
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Definitely still smile about Reggie ball. That's funny. That's always going to be funny. Yeah. It'll never not be funny. Let's see. All school, this group of trade school bees seem to be losing their sting as the temps get colder. Will the queen bee be able to recharge the worker bees one more time before they die off for the winter?
01:01:24
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That's a Musser, right? Not all school. Did I miss something? of that That is Musser. Sorry. Yes. um Yeah, they're definitely they're definitely losing their sting. I don't know that ah I think that the I don't think it has anything to do with the temperatures getting colder, but yes, they happen to be getting colder.
01:01:43
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um half of The queen bee. um okay Yeah. I don't know they they're there i know. I just feel like this was like well played, Brian.
01:01:56
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Yes. ah Yeah. they They've been going in the wrong direction of late. don't know. Brent Key is going to do what he can to try. Hopefully he's unable to succeed. Yeah. I have a feeling Buster Faulkner will have some trickeration up his sleeve when things get desperate for sure.
01:02:13
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Yeah. Let's see. Boss Dog, TJ Witt. I think we hit this first one. What's your favorite moments from this game when you're in attendance for? We least hit those at atd Tech. um Who do you hate more than Fulalorda or the bu Bumblebees?
01:02:27
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I think no one. Tennessee. You hit them more. Hit them more? Okay. yeah Sorry. yeah as it None. no none None. yeah None more. um Favorite moments from a game that you were in attendance for? so I guess favorite moments for me would be last year's game with Carter.
01:02:47
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Being there with with Carter was was pretty awesome ah for that for that overtime madness. Yeah. So that does a good one. That is true. That is true. Even though it was super cold, but it was so awesome. so I guess I'll add 2002. 2002 is pretty sweet.
01:03:04
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Like that one. All right, let's see. Gene Fambro says, is it just me or have you guys noticed all the main play-by-play announcers are more animated these days? McDonough, Tessitore, even Fowler go way overboard where they don't need to and they should get off my lawn.
01:03:20
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G-A-T-A. I feel like Gus Johnson is the biggest offender here. Yeah. He's, is he, which, which game did he do for us? most recent yes Gus Johnson. Yeah. He hasn't, he hasn't. He's it's like, he's, he's on Fox, but he was the one in that Illinois Penn state game when he, and he like freaked out when Mendoza through the touchdown pass. He's just like, ah like, he just like screams and his voice cracks and stuff.
01:03:45
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Yeah, I think that there's definitely a lot of a lot of yelling and screaming going on. don't know who it is. um i It's funny. um You go back and and and I have this the same thought with um former um U.S. soccer announcers. like I feel like it's just like ah it's like a lost art form Um, golly, who was JP Della camera, JP Della camera for us soccer was, was the, like, I hated watching games when he was on because it was like every touch of the ball was just over the top. And I get where he's coming from on that. And I can't remember if it's McDonough.
01:04:27
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But I feel like every pass is like, oh, right. Like, right, bro. Yeah, we're we're a far cry. We're a far cry from the Ron Franklin's and Musburger's era. Yeah, yeah i agree, man. Like Keith Jackson, Keith Jackson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was it's an art. It's an art. Yeah, I kind of I do. I i get off my lawn as well. This was good. Yeah, i agreed, agreed.
01:04:54
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Uh, let's see. Yara has chimed in Yara, uh, from Chapelville curve. Uh, what are five must brings for a tailgate? I don't five, but I've got one and bean dip.
01:05:06
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I mean, five is a lot. Holy cow. How much are how much you trying to bring? Yeah. um I mean, if you're doing like the entire tailgate, you need your beverages of choice. although I would say water is like, as far as like things you might forget, bring water.
01:05:20
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um Always. Yeah. You can always bring in an open water into the game too. That's true. yes You can bring that into the game. So, uh, water, You got to have your snacks. So yeah, like a bean dip or something with some like chips.
01:05:33
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Ooh, John is holding up the My God of Podcast koozie. Definitely a buzzer. Shameless plug time, Jim. Shameless plug. Head over to mygodapodcast.com slash store. can get your silver britches. My God of Podcast koozie. I always have a koozie in my back pocket on Toe Cake Day. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
01:05:55
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I'm trying to think a bottle opener would also be something that I always have on me as well. um I don't know. Must brings is a, is a relative term, but I think for the most part, you just want to bring yourself and yeah. Five things is a lot. it is ice i crazy did That's, that's going to be Morris Hall's answer. Ice. ice that hundred percent hundred percent um What was your favorite game day experience this season?
01:06:26
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um Going with Caroline was was my favorite game day experience. Okay. Okay. um I would probably, I guess I would go Texas.
01:06:38
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um Maybe just that one. I feel like the night game, the atmosphere, ah oh that was that was a good one. um Yeah, i'll go I'll go with Texas. and And Kim and Lily were both able to make up for that one. So I'll go with that one. I like it.
01:06:55
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ah And then she finishes out. I know we hate both sides of the Iron Bowl, but which side is winning in your perfect universe? So not who do you think, but who do you want to win? To me, think this comes down to what's that?
01:07:07
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Yeah. that true Okay. Okay. Okay. That, that answer wins and we will now move on.
01:07:15
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a Friend of the show, Tim Riley. Okay, coming at us this week, a joint question from both Tim and Addison. From me and Addison sitting together at St. George Island. My first Georgia-Georgia Tech game in person was 1997. Tech brother, Tim's older brother, went to Georgia Tech, for those who don't know. Do we see this playing out as a close nail-biter or Kirby gets back to blowout ways, feeding off recent big game momentum?
01:07:40
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Go Dawgs, happy Thanksgiving all. I know we we can't reveal our picks early, Tim. ki Yeah, come on, bro. we'll We'll have the this week's Georgia Tech Clingon Fashion Hate Picks brought to you by friend of the show, Tim Riley and Edison in a moment.
01:07:57
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There we go. All right, let's head to the next one. Fireball.
01:08:06
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All right. The hug dog, Jason Huggins. First, he says, um appreciate you guys spending a little time with me Saturday. Absolutely, Jason. That was that was a blast. um Would you sell a home game for $10 million? dollars um Although he added, don't we already do that in Jacksonville?
01:08:23
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Do we get $10 million? dollars and So that is what tech is getting for this game. Yeah. Yeah. So, oh, yeah, I don't know how much we get from Jacksonville. But, yeah, so if you're unfamiliar, that is why tech agreed to move this game from Bobby Dodd Stadium to Mercedes-Benz. there it's ah It's a $10 million dollars payday. That's actually what that Seth Emerson article I mentioned earlier was about, was about how, like, their they're fine with doing that. Like, it's it's it's done a lot. For the school. um I would say this. Would I do it? Like as a fan?
01:08:55
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No. I think it's a different question for an athletic director. So for me, no okay So it appears that

Significance of Rivalries and Over-Under Predictions

01:09:03
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we get million 29, it does increase $10 million. Okay.
01:09:07
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And then in 30 31, it'll be $10.5 million. Okay. however in twenty eight and twenty nine it does increase to ten million dollars okay okay and then in thirty and thirty one it'll be ten point five million dollars Got it. So beyond that, would you give up another home game to for $10 million dollars to play at Mercedes-Benz?
01:09:27
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Absolutely not. Yeah, agreed. Yeah. i I actually want to give up the Jacksonville game too. So that's a that's a story for another game. Fair enough. Second, favorite home game and why?
01:09:41
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I'm going to answer this like generically. um The first one, like the home opener, and especially if the first game of the year happens to be at home. um You know, it's been so long since you've been Athens, get in a town, see a lot of familiar faces for the first time in a long time. So going to go with the first one.
01:09:59
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So my answer may end up being yours by default, but you may not be considering it. But I always will say that the most underrated game on the UGA football calendar is G-Day.
01:10:12
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Okay. Yeah. Which technically is the first home game. Okay. Okay. Okay. ah That's not what I was talking about, but I get it. That's not what I'm talking about. yeah um But yeah, I agree. Like that first that first home game is is is amazing.
01:10:31
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um But yeah, I mean, kind of like what I was saying in the last last episode, like any game that you're there. Yeah. is my favorite because even if you're not going into the game or you're watching at the tailgate like some of our stalwarts that are always at the games you know even some of them watched at the tailgate kind of thing but just being there in athens is unbeatable particularly if you have a group and if you need a group let us know um but like i don't know i just think that uh i just think that if if you can get around
01:11:10
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a tent and a TV, a cooler, a beer and, you know, hang out with your buddies like that to me is just magical. Yeah. Agreed. Um, let's see third in honor of clean old fashioned hate. Do you prefer smoked glasses for your old fashioned?
01:11:24
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no I do like a good smoked old-fashioned for sure. um Yeah, 100%. A smoked glass will will absolutely ah elevate your old-fashioned game.
01:11:38
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um I do say if you are in the Atlanta area and you can swing by the Iberian pig, they have probably one of the best smoked old-fashioned I think I've ever had because it is a bacon-smoked old-fashioned.
01:11:53
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e um They do to bourbon in a in a fat wash where they take the bacon grease and it marinates in the bourbon. And then over the course of, I want to say it takes the whole process because I've tried it myself. um I could probably do it now because I actually have cheesecloth. But last time I did, I didn't have any cheesecloth. But you basically strain the fat out. It solidifies, put it in the freezer kind of thing.
01:12:20
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And the fat solidifies and then you kind of extract it out and then bake in the the bourbon actually has a ah smoky, from the from the just the the bacon um kind of natural taste. And then you do throw a smoked old fashioned on top of it and it's amazing.
01:12:35
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Got it. Got it. And they gave me a piece of bacon with it. um The last one was, where does Georgia Tech rank on your most hated list in Sikkim?
01:12:48
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I mean, the i know that most people don't agree with me, but for me, they're... Yeah. It's one for me just because the, my first year, my first three years at Georgia, we went 0 and 3 against these guys. So that's for me, they're, they're one, but yeah. one b is I mean, Florida, Florida and Georgia tech are, are one a one B. Okay. Fair enough.
01:13:11
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All right, JP, we got one more.
01:13:19
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My God, a freshman. Trying to put glasses on. 90, 80, whoo, brother!
01:13:28
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It is time for Coach Trillbills Over-Unders Georgia Tech Edition. um I do have a still have a slight lead. I am going to choose to go first.
01:13:41
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So we'll start with the Georgia offense, starting with over-under 225 yards passing for Gunner Stockton. I'm going to go first, and I'm sitting here thinking about how I'm going to go over.
01:13:57
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you Okay. I'm also going to go over. Okay. Over to you, Zachariah Branch, over under 65 receiving yards. I'm going to go over, Jim. Okay.
01:14:09
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Okay. Over as well. I'm agree. Sorry. Over. And then over, over under one and a half rushing touchdowns for Georgia. I'll take you Running back rushing touchdowns. Sorry. Yes. Correct. Clarifying question. Shenanigans. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I did not read it. go See, this is what you me honest there. I'm going to over though.
01:14:30
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I'm also going to go over. Okay. I would have gone over either way. Amazing. Yeah, definitely would have gone over the other way. um Okay, so over to you on the defensive side. Over under 55 rushing yards for Haynes King.
01:14:45
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a This is including sacks? My understanding is that in college football, a sack is a negative rushing yards. So it impacts your net.
01:14:57
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Okay. So we are talking net rushing yards. I believe so. That's how I interpret this. It's a good line. Yeah. ah I think that he's going to get some yards. I'm to go over.
01:15:10
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Okay. um Inside baseball, I decided to just say the opposite of whatever you were going to say on this one. I'm saying under.
01:15:19
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Okay. Over, under, four and a half tackles for a loss. i think that's also a good line. I'm to go over here. I'm also going to go over on that one. Okay. And then over under 13 and a half first half points for Georgia tech.
01:15:32
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this Is this to me? It is ah push. um I'm to go under.
01:15:44
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Okay. Okay.
01:15:47
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I think I'm going to agree with you. I'm going to say under as well. Okay. All right. And then over to me, special teams, over under six and a half points for Peyton Woodring. I'm going go over.
01:16:01
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points so that's field goals and and extra points correct yeah i'm gonna go over okay and then the uh miscellaneous we'll leave this one with with starting with you uh percentage of red in mercedes-benz over under 65 smash the over i love it i love it i i'll agree with you on that one hey All right, Coach, appreciate it as always. love Love doing these. And, hey, thanks for thanks for keeping track of them for us as well. Yes. Always love that Sunday, late either late Saturday night or or Sunday text when we get the updates from Coach. It was amazing. So much fun.
01:16:40
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All right. Agreed. Agreed. right, so let's let's ah now we'll do the the game picks presented by a friend of the show, Tim Riley in Addison. um Okay, so the line last I checked was 13.5. So Georgia's favored by 13.5 with an over-under of 59.5 from Odd Shark.
01:16:59
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um That gives an implied score of Georgia 36.5 Georgia Tech predicted score has Georgia to Georgia Tech um parker fleming his cfb graphs has georgia thirty five point six eight to georgia tech
01:17:21
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And then our scoring impact has been actually fairly tight. Scoring impact from I Got a Podcast, Georgia 33.53 Georgia Tech 28.22. point five three to georgia tech twenty eight point two two turkey um I guess I'll, i I guess I've been tending to go first in these. So I think I've been kind of back and forth on this. I actually, i think I texted you a while ago, like, and I think I said on here before, like, I honest, I thought when tech got through those first few weeks, like I thought they were going to make it to this game undefeated. um yeah I was like, everyone needs to be ready for Georgia tech to roll into this game undefeated. So that didn't happen. um i think their defense has taken a taken a step back since last year.
01:18:02
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Like I said earlier, don't be shocked if they go down scoring the first possession, but I expect us to adjust. I'm taking the dogs 31 to 17. I similarly have that score. was actually waffling on the 17 the 14. have 38, 38, 17 June.
01:18:21
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i was actually waffling on the seventeen or the fourteenth um i have a thirty eight thirty eight seventeen june Ooh, man.
01:18:32
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God, that would be delicious. All right. As we say with these things, I hope you are right.
01:18:40
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For what it's worth, Jim, ah some of the models that I've investigated, the AI models, I haven't seen a single one of them predict much less than that.
01:18:52
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Okay. Like as far as like the margin of victory there. Got it. Okay. Man, that'd be awesome. Yeah. Okay. This game is going to come down to like whose defense do you trust more?

SEC Championship Scenarios and Thanksgiving Plans

01:19:05
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And at the end of the day, i trust Kirby smarts defense more. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Cool. um I don't think I have the pickums for coaches fully set up. Apologies on that. So i won't flash those on the screen, but we've got the slate of Friday and Saturday games from, from coach. So we've got the rivalry game. So, yeah,
01:19:26
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Like I said earlier, friday three Black Friday, three rivalry games. So the lead-in to georgia Georgia Tech is the Egg Bowl. So you got number six, Ole Miss. It's a seven-and-a-half-point favorite at Mississippi State, 12 p.m. on ABC.
01:19:40
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I got to go with Ole Miss, though. like I know there's all the weirdness going on with Lane and Willie State and Willie Go. It is 11 a.m. local there. It's at Mississippi State, the home crowd, but a I'm going to go with Ole Miss.
01:19:53
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Yep, the Fighting Hunters are going to take it to the Cal College, as you would say. Okay. Then ah the nightcap, Friday night, 7.30 on ABC. Number three, Texas A&M is a two-and-a-half-point favorite at number 17, Texas.
01:20:08
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um I guess all these games have SEC championship implications. ah i i i think I think Texas might win this one. I'm going to go Texas. oh You're going with Texas?
01:20:21
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Yeah. At Texas at night. I'm going to Texas. I'm going give me give me a and M on that one. Okay. Okay. For, for another, and a number of reasons.
01:20:32
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. If you want to skip the SEC championship game. ah All right. So then Saturday slate starting off at noon, we've got Clemson goes to South Carolina. South Carolina, the two and a half point favorite is a 12 o'clock game on SEC network and bit of a struggle for both teams.
01:20:52
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The lame duck, the lame duck bowl. Yeah, seriously. Yeah. It doesn't have the luster of as last year. No, I'll take Carolina for Chuck. Okay.
01:21:03
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I actually, am going to go with Carolina as well. I think they've been playing all right of late, so I'm going to take that. Yeah. mean, they nearly had the other guys,
01:21:19
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How about we got 14 Vanderbilt travels to number 20, Tennessee. Tennessee is actually favored by two and a half points. This is a three 30 game on ESPN playoff implications potentially for Vanderbilt. They're still trying to climb up in there in the playoff rankings.
01:21:33
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Yeah. Give me the balls on that one, Jim. Okay, man, I was going to pick Tennessee, but I need some action between the two of us. going to take Vandy. You're trying to create a separation Friday, Saturday? Yeah.
01:21:50
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I got a little ground to make up on these. Then you got LSU at number eight, Oklahoma. Oklahoma's favored 10.5. It's also a 3-3 game. I got two 3-3 games. That one's on ABC.
01:22:02
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Doubleheader. Yeah. Uh, what are we doing? I know, it seriously, but I'm saying Oklahoma big in this one. That LSU was in disarray. Yeah. Give me Oklahoma for sure. Uh, another lame duck one, uh, Florida state at Florida four 30 on ESPN to Florida is favored in this one by two and a half.
01:22:23
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oh Yeah, I'm going to take Florida. Okay. yeah In the swamp. I can't separation Saturday on that one because I i agree with you. And then we'll wrap it up Saturday night.
01:22:33
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So with yeah this game, again, for sure, SEC championship implications. um You had number 10 Alabama, five and a half point favorite at Auburn at Jordan here, 7.30 p.m. on on yeah espn I got, who you got Jim crazy things happen there, but that, that five and a half line seems wild to me. Um, so I'm not sure what's going on there, but I don't, I don't see how this Auburn team beats this Alabama team. So I'm going to go down there.
01:23:05
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Interesting, Jim. So you don't have any faith in the, in the voodoo of Jordan hair. Um, but some, they don't have any faith in it, but I don't, I don't see them winning.
01:23:16
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However, I did predict that Texas wins, which means Georgia goes to the SEC championship game. Okay. So so you have you have Georgia going to the SEC championship game for sure. um i guess I didn't really look at this. ah is What happens if both of them lose?
01:23:33
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ah It depends. So there is a, I'm pretty sure there's a world where if they both lose and Ole Miss beats Mississippi state, it could actually be Georgia Ole Miss in the SEC championship.
01:23:46
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That's possible. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Oh man. um I just confirmed that by the way. um If so, this, the scenario I ran was Ole Miss beats Mississippi state, Texas wins, Missouri beats Arkansas, Auburn meets Alabama, Oklahoma beats LSU and Tennessee beats Vanderbilt.
01:24:06
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um That would be Georgia Ole Miss. I do think that Alabama is going to roll. So i I'm going to stick to what my gut here. um There's a lot of voodoo in Auburn, but I think Alabama rolls big. Yeah.
01:24:19
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Yeah. that that That line is weird, but... Okay, so with with your predictions, you've got kind of status quo in the SEC with A&M and Bama in the SEC championship game, right?
01:24:32
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Yep. Yeah. Yep. So yeah, so those are your scenarios. and Those two teams win, they're in. um if one and If one loses, it's Georgia. If they both, you know Georgia versus the other one, if they both lose and Ole Miss wins, it could still be Georgia-Ole Miss. So we're not going to know the full SEC championship lineup until the Iron Bowl ends. So...
01:24:54
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That's funny. Yeah. It could be late night for people trying to jump on any abandoned hotel rooms and tickets.
01:25:04
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's ah All right, man. Well, we are, we're going to be at, at FRIP. ah So we're going to go do do, go do Thanksgiving there and then oh be sitting around and watching a bunch of football Friday and Saturday before, before heading home. So looking for a huge, huge slate of rivalry games this weekend. That's awesome.
01:25:27
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to be local here with the kids. um And then i'll be i'll be with I'll be with some folks for for Thanksgiving. But yeah, there will definitely be lots of football watched. Probably not as much as you're probably going to be watching with Lily. But I need i need to and need to work on my kids with the the watching of football.
01:25:51
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um carter's on board i need to get the girls i need the girls plugged in they're more on the uh the ella the ella train of football watching yeah which is they'd rather watch k-pop demon hunters okay call back to briar represents uh hey i like k-pop demon hunters Yeah, agreed.
01:26:13
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Oh, man. But I'm jealous. Y'all are going to be warm and we're going to be freezing our nuts off, our our chestnuts off here in Georgia. it It's about to get into the feel like. I don't think it's going to be that cold, but a cold front is coming through to Fripp, too. So that Kim looked at the weather and i was like, oh, are you kidding me? It's like, yeah, it's not. it's not We're going to be at the beach, but it's not going warm.
01:26:35
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So FYI. um So, yeah, I know you were saying, I guess we talked about it earlier, like the ticket prices, right? So um probably not in the cards, I think, to head to this one for you. We're obviously going to be out of going to do it i'll have i'll have all I'll have all the kids, and all the little kids with me. And so that's a that's a hefty investment for for a game.
01:26:56
Speaker
yeah, yeah. yeah that yeah Carter would be excited. but And I think Caroline would i think caroline would would be excited. But my other girl would not be. Camden would not be.
01:27:07
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Caroline wouldn't have me there to play flip cup or whatever we play. turn things Exactly. exactly Oh man. Not to mention the fact that like the, there'd be no merch, there'd be mo no merch shopping. Like there's no bookstore, but okay true sure I'm sure we could find some Skittles for, but anyway.
01:27:29
Speaker
Cool. Hey man, another clean old fashioned eight. another one Another one on deck. I'm looking forward to it. and I'm looking forward to hearing about the about the family. Are you guys going playing Coob?
01:27:43
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oh That's a good question. We might we might might might work in some Beach Coob. Is there going to be a Thanksgiving tournament? No. No tournament, but there might be a family tournament. yeah there might Yeah, it might be. We might be able to get around in something to do on the beach. ah Like we're not going to be like sitting on the beach. But yeah, that's a good idea. Actually, we might do that.
01:28:03
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Well, you guys enjoy. Tell Lou and Ponda I said hello. Ponda's famous beach house. Get the bean dip rocking so we don't have any little stitches problems.
01:28:14
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um And yeah, man. Y'all you'all have fun. And go Dawgs. Go Dawgs. And happy Thanksgiving, bro. Happy Thanksgiving.