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Painted Rose and Pete Zigler
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Hello you beautiful kinksters! Welcome to another episode of Sex, Drugs, and WHATEVER!!
I'm Vera James and with me today are two of my favorite people: Painted Rose and Pete Zigler! Have some fun with us today as we talk about the wild and crazy world of the online adult entertainment business.
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:00:15
Speaker
What's up, everyone? Welcome to Sex, Drugs, and Whatever. I'm Bear James. And if you're new here, please give us a follow. I have some really special guests with me today. Or should I just say co-host? I want to call everybody co-host. But I have Pete Ziegler in Painted Rose. Hello.
00:00:41
Speaker
Say hello to everyone. How are you? Hi. Hi, everyone. You having a good week? I'm good. Thank you. Thank you.
Podcast Progress and Audience Interaction
00:00:50
Speaker
Good. How about you? Good, good, good, good, good. I'm having a pretty good fucking week. I have got a little bit of work done. I've been doing lots of work on my podcast. So I feel really great. About it. I'm gonna say each over here. I still, I told Pete this last time that just me and him, nobody will fucking call or text the number and leave like voicemails, but I get emails all the time. But so I'm still fucking waiting on somebody to leave us a voicemail. And also, yeah, once I, this,
00:01:37
Speaker
new website, and whatever it is, the Riverside.
Exploring Live Streaming Options
00:01:47
Speaker
Once I figure out how, I can live stream while I'm recording on like YouTube, Twitter, I think like Facebook and LinkedIn, but I don't do that shit. I don't do Facebook or LinkedIn, but I thought that'd be pretty cool too. People might want to, especially if it's Twitter, Maybe you do. Like, recording and letting fans see everybody in live. I don't know. Just might be. Live is fun. I think a lot of them watch live.
Camming Career Reflections and Challenges
00:02:21
Speaker
Yeah. And this is, I do, I've said this probably a million times, but you know, I started out camming and
00:02:33
Speaker
I wish I could I wish I could have stuck with it, but it just It's just not good for me. I'm just too bitchy but with this type of like live streaming people aren't gonna be able to just Tell me to You know Fuck my ass or you know, whatever inappropriate things they're trying to get me to do for free Can't do it on here.
Handling Inappropriate User Interactions
00:03:01
Speaker
So yeah barbara all right For me, it was it was really hard to learn how to just hide my emotions from the guys that would come in and call me grandma and talk about my forehead wrinkles or just the ones that really just don't like women. And and i would at first, like I was mean on cam and then I just had to learn to just silently block them and keep being happy and not let them get to me. But when it's live, it's hard.
00:03:32
Speaker
Yeah, I haven't had too much experience with the, that's all I pretty much do is live, I just broadcast on Chatterbay. just a few times a month it's just a part-time thing for me and um i haven't had too much experience with having with being super offended and know yeah having to hide my emotions but some i did have a weird experience last night last night yeah what is that that's a huge water if you see my little
00:04:08
Speaker
I don't want my whole house to smell like pot. Like you're in the dorms? Yes, but it fucking works, man. Yeah. So whatever. But what happened last night? Wow. i Um, oh, this, it was, i yeah, I need y'all's advice with this. It was, it was weird. So this guy, I had, he, we were doing, I was doing a private viewing for him and, um, I kind of realized after a while, I'd actually, He's actually, you know, one of the very few regulars that I have.
Boundaries with Regular Customers
00:04:43
Speaker
But he wants me to, like, be... Rosie, if you don't know, i i' my kink is, like, being a sissy and dressing up in, like, women's lingerie and that kind of submissive role, which is super fun. And he wanted me to, like...
00:05:00
Speaker
I finally realized that he was wanting me to degrade him because he liked having sex with men. Like, he wanted me to use some slurs, you know, that start with an F and I was like, I'm not doing that, you know, nope, that's fine if that's his kink, you know, but... So then he was like asking me to... yeah I was basically like, oh, you so you like to fuck sissy boys, you wanna fuck the sissy boy, don't you, blah, blah. And he was like getting off on it. And then he typed in, he said, say that, say little boys like L-I-L-B-O-I-S, like little boys. And I was like, I'm not saying that, like borderline like pedophilia. And I was just like,
00:05:48
Speaker
And by then, this show had just ended. I was basically reading like the last few things that he wrote. But I'm like, should I like report him? or i definitely am gonna like He's really nice. like I hate banning him, but I feel like I should because... I mean, what do y'all think? it was It just really threw me off and it was like really creepy and... You know? um So... I've gotten into situations like that too, and I've also changed my rules throughout the years as to what I'm comfortable with. um But I will say that you can get banned during a show in private, even exclusive with someone, if you go along with something that's against the site's terms of service.
00:06:39
Speaker
Yeah. It's happened
Discussing Site's Terms and Setting Limits
00:06:41
Speaker
to me. Really. I definitely didn't feel comfortable doing that at all. um yeah and i'm just what At this point, I'm kind of like, I wonder if I should report him to ChatterBabe. Hey, this guy asked me to tell him, you know, talk about little boys with him. And I, you know, I mean he's he wrote L-I-L-B-O-I-S, you know, but I mean. Yeah, it's probably. He was like really getting into it. I could tell from what he was asking me to tell him and stuff. And you, and you said that
00:07:21
Speaker
He is like one of your regulars. One of my, I don't have, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But being as new as you are, that's not. Right. That's, um, of course you only have a few. I mean, some people experienced, they only have some. Anyway, that's not the point. But I just feel like since he knows you're new, I feel like. Yeah. there I've had situations where people will just come in and be my regular when I was new and it was almost like they're gonna they would wait a couple weeks and then push my boundaries and yeah once they start doing that I've never
00:08:13
Speaker
It's hard to feel safe with them again after that. Yeah, it is. And it was, I've never had a situation where I've said, hey, that's going too far. And they just quit or, you know what I'm saying? It's never turned into a long-term customer. Yeah. Somebody tried something like that. Yeah. I said, I'm not going to, I said, I'm not going to say that. And it'd be one thing if it was like, I didn't feel comfortable saying like, the f-word even though that's you know even though that's still against like Chatterbait's rules. I don't want to get banned but this was like anytime somebody brings up like little boys I don't know it was it was really I'm just thinking I'm just wondering if I should reach out to Chatterbait honestly and be like hey this yeah just use your name probably even
00:09:08
Speaker
Yeah, you can probably even go back if wherever he's tipped you. You know how it keeps that log of the conversation? And his message is that conversation. Yeah, you can go and go back to the M and report from there each message or whatever to. I think a good idea might be to contact Chatterbait and just ask them, would that be something that they would want reported? Or should you just not have yeah contact or maybe have very clear boundaries with this user in the future? That's a really good idea. Ask them if they're, yeah. Because sometimes the terms of service can be kind of confusing on what they want you to report and what you're legally, to them, supposed to report.
Advice on Impostor Syndrome and Branding
00:10:01
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, I didn't even think about legally having to report stuff to them.
00:10:08
Speaker
Yeah, that's a good idea. That's what I'll do. I'll just reach out and be like, hey, this happened. Is this something worthy of reporting? I'm going to go ahead and just ban him. Yeah, I would. yes like No hard feelings yet. And it's not going to be the last person that yeah you're going to have to block because they will not respect your boundaries. i mean Yeah, it does get better after you've been in it a while, but yeah, they just, I don't know. I've never had one try to test my boundaries like that and then turn into a long-term customer. Go with your gut. That sucks. But with that being said, um I mean, of course, like,
00:11:08
Speaker
You have to follow the terms of service. it I mean, what are the terms and conditions on each platform? But I and know people that do age play and sell it and stuff. And I don't know, it was just, I think it's odd that why wouldn't he ask you if that was okay? I just think it's so weird when people don't ask. I guess it's almost like a consent thing, if they would just throw it in, in the middle of yeah play. Yeah, he definitely threw it in and it was like... cause we were I was just reading what he was typing and I felt like such an old person. I was like, my face wasn't to the screen so I'm gonna turn around and be like,
00:11:58
Speaker
and then like get back character. No, I do the same thing. It's okay. We all do it. and That's funny. Do you, Pete, ask them beforehand what like their kinks and fetishes they like that or it's and let them know? I would even write
00:12:26
Speaker
somewhere in the bio that, you know, no age play, no age play derogatory, um, language or, alexa stop um,
00:12:50
Speaker
Yeah, that's right when I to because that's another that's like three that people will try to when I first there When I first signed up and was like doing my bio, I was like, no scat. like i don I was like, I can't think of anything that I'm not. Yeah, scat. And then I was like, wait a minute. There's plenty of stuff that I'm not into. you know And yeah the more I'm doing it, like I don't want that to happen again. But as far as like them telling me they're kinks, you know what's interesting? Because i thought because you know I go on there and present as like a sissy, cross-dresser, thin boy.
00:13:24
Speaker
and so at first I was like oh well that's their kink you know they'll be into that but it's like there's so many different levels you know like they still all have these specific things that they you know find attractive like some guys want to see my feet and like you know just like so maybe I should be better about asking them I'm always like you know what did you have in mind or yeah whatever but even then they usually give me really vague answers like I want to fuck your sissy pussy I'm like okay be a little bit more descriptive please that is um funny but yeah definitely yeah you'll I'm never
00:14:11
Speaker
not shocked by something new in this industry like i'm always like constantly at least like once a month i'm like that's new i've never heard that right I don't feel like there's hardly anything I could hear right now that I haven't already. I mean, I've seen so much. Me too. It's beautiful. In five years, I've just, it's a lot. Yeah. I'm coming up on three. And it does. Yeah. Fun. All right. I got fucking high, y'all.
00:14:48
Speaker
and Are you okay? Yeah, I'm fucking I'm great. Actually Rosie. I'm great I'm so glad that you're great. It's good to be great. too Yeah, you all want me to read the email that i picked out oh Yeah, okay Hi, Vera. I've been in sex work maybe a year and a half. I've followed you for about a year now. Your work is inspiring. Thank you. I'm trying very hard to take my adult content to the next level, but it's hard.
00:15:24
Speaker
I'm not sure I'm doing anything right. Any advice on building a brand, growing as an adult content creator, and not having imposter syndrome around so many talented models. Thanks so much. um
00:15:44
Speaker
Yeah, a brand. Let me tell you one thing about brand. I don't think anybody actually A lot of people, majority of people don't know what they're doing to like build a brand and then it just happens. That's my biggest, how am I raising you? What do you think about building a brand? I think it just, you just be yourself and then eventually your brand builds itself. i guess I think as you keep trying new things and if you're doing customs or whatever or cam shows yeah um you're gonna find out what you like and what you're good at and what people buy and you're just going to start combining that into something that becomes you and that's gonna transition over time too and that's okay because sometimes you're just growing and learning and
00:16:37
Speaker
I would say don't do anything that you're too ashamed of right now like because you'll regret it later Yeah, and if you have already done shit you're ashamed of yeah, I have we have yeah two Me too you like yeah, you learned a lot just by experience uh as for if by branding you mean
00:17:04
Speaker
um like watermarks and things like that i mean i have like five watermarks and i don't know logos i have a logo but i changed that shit people just forget to put mine on yeah i do have the time to um yeah it just happens what else That was the three-part question, and I can only remember one thing. Growing as an adult content creator. I think we kind of hit on that too, Rosie. There's always something. Well, don't feel like an imposter. Oh, yeah. We're all just human. And not having imposter syndrome. Yeah. Yeah. We are. You're beautiful, and you're going to be somebody's favorite model. Yes. So don't don't say you're an imposter. Go in with the confidence of,
00:18:03
Speaker
knowing even on the days where you don't sell anything that you're still great. Yeah, you're fucking awesome. And we all feel like that sometimes. We just keep going. Keep moving forward. Yeah. And there's always something there's always something new to learn. don't Don't ever think about it as you're going to get to this point where you know everything. in this industry because no, there's always room to grow things to learn and you have to be like a lifelong learner in this industry, I guess. But yeah, you got this. You got this.
Authenticity and Industry Stigma
00:18:48
Speaker
Go kill it. Any other advice? good advice
00:18:54
Speaker
Any advice, Pete?
00:18:57
Speaker
I'm just that person that broke the letter has more experience than me As far as imposter syndrome, I mean that's That's true in any job. I think any yeah career. Yeah, I know I experienced that in my You know main full-time gig often and it's just like you know, you just have to know that I <unk> There's always something to learn. like You're still, yeah you can do it. Everybody has imposter strength syndrome sometimes. Just be true to yourself, be honest. you know and If you don't know how to do something or you have questions about something or you don't feel, I guess in this industry, if you don't feel comfortable doing something like Barry and Rosie were saying, don't do it. Set boundaries. yeah
00:19:51
Speaker
Yeah. And fake it till you make it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what the old nurses teach the new nurses when you go in. Fake it till you make it because you don't want to look like you're not confident. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And have fun. these The fans can just tell when you're enjoying yourself. Love it. Have real orgasms. Yeah.
00:20:20
Speaker
or get really good at faking it and look like, as long as you're like enjoying it though, I fucking, I love this shit. I do, I love this job. yeah Love it. I just said that earlier. Yeah. Yeah, I love. It's fun, I've had fun with it. I know. I know. What do you love most about it, Vera?
00:20:53
Speaker
that I'm just constantly using my imagination to come up with my next idea. Yeah. I mean like I don't know how many times out of the day like I'll see something good on a show or a movie or I'll hear a really fucking good song and it just makes me think of an idea and like. Yeah. Then it's the end of it, like, yeah. That's my favorite part. For sure. What's yours? Same thing, just the creative control. Yeah. And that I make people happy and that a lot of them tell them that my work is healing. And even though I'm not able to work as a nurse anymore, my friends online say that I make them feel better.
00:21:53
Speaker
That's great. You You do have a really fucking like positive light or energy that like just makes people happy. So. Yeah. for being i nine I try. I'm like Pete. He's a fucking asshole. I suck. I am the worst. I actually am pretty fucking awesome. He is pretty fucking awesome and For some reason our love language. I tried to tell somebody else. I think it was Tatum. I was like, you know, I Don't remember the way I said it. I was we were talking about how I Can play a really really good like insane or like cruel mommy
00:22:45
Speaker
And I said something about what like, you know, I'm just an asshole to like the people that are closest to me and I was like she was like, oh And I was like, oh that's not like everybody's not an asshole to their loved ones like talk shit like TS I Don't know I mean, she wasn't like, she's a fucking sweetheart. I could just tell like, she's like, Oh, and she's not an asshole to her friends. Like they don't think that's funny. Like we do, but and you can afford to be an asshole to the ones that love you unconditionally. Yeah. And no, like, like me and my husband just are constantly making each other laugh by
00:23:37
Speaker
saying like rude things to each other. We just think it's fucking hilarious. It's actually called it's called covert intimacy by showing that by showing intimacy and and you're I'm so comfortable with you that I can talk shit to you. That's like a way of showing intimacy on and on a different level. And there's also something about I forgot what it's called but you know how like People who see like babies Will say like oh my god, you're just so cute. I could pinch your cheeks or like squeeze you there's also something that like when you're in love or You know just like really really happy with your friends even that you want to kind of like squeeze them or like yeah pinch them or like say
00:24:31
Speaker
little rude things because you're so adorable and I love you. I just want to smack you in the fucking face a few times. Um, so y'all know how, did I tell y'all that I'm on Bumble for friends? You mentioned it to me once. Rosie, I don't know if I told you that or not. but like I'm on bumble for dating, but I don't even date. Yeah. Well, like this whole like it's not going so great. I know, to be fair, like I've met two cool people, a couple and like a woman and like it's cool. Oh, my gosh, today.
00:25:31
Speaker
So I told, I was like, okay, look, we're all adults. I want to be, I'm like, just trying to find like genuine connections, not necessarily like best friends, but just to casual friends to have like shit to do anyway. So I got tired of having to lie to them. about what I do, because guess what? Nobody wants to hear that shit. So I told a few people. That you met on the bumble for a franchise? Yes, because they also all ask, what do you do? And I kept it, and I was like, I want to be authentic and just tell you the truth. I work in the adult entertainment industry.
00:26:26
Speaker
don You know, I said, you know, I can put together good. It just sounded nice and Yeah, I never fucking heard back from any of them and then I had a fucking warning on that account today for sharing
00:26:45
Speaker
inappropriate inappropriate material or behavior. Are you fucking kidding me? Those douche bags. Yeah. I think that they thought that you were going to try to sell them porn and that the whole thing was a setup. That's probably why. Maybe. Probably. But that's a shitty thing to like you know contact Bumble and you know put a warning against her just an assumption. but you're I'm sure you're right, Rosie, but still fuck those people. It is. You know what I mean? Yeah. That sucks. Did that make you feel bad? No, it made me laugh, actually. It made me laugh. Good.
00:27:29
Speaker
yeah I would feel like I'm not opening this app for six months. Yeah. Well, like after I paid for the premium, it was only like $13 for three months. But after that, I'm fucking not. um
00:27:47
Speaker
So like also that I like verified my account as well. So I got like a little blue check. I don't know. People just couldn't fucking handle it anyway. Also the people that I've met. I've not told them the truth, but, um, Oh, we went out to eat with this couple last weekend and I liked them a fucking lot. And we're actually seeing them again this weekend. And, um, the girl worked, she works like downtown in like a,
00:28:25
Speaker
Busy city not like a really big one, but um and she said something about um How people will walk in that are on drugs um and was It like it it was There were a lot of fucking cops in our area. I don't remember exactly what we were talking about but um It was just a norm, you know It wasn't a condescending remark. It was just a comment. And so a little bit later, I was like, what kind of drugs, you know, what kind of people are coming into your shop? Did I say that part? God damn. No, you didn't.
00:29:19
Speaker
That what kind of drugs are they on? And she was like, oh my God, girl. Well, they always come in smelling like pot. And I was like, ugh. And I'm sitting there across from her like stoned out of my fucking mind. And I was like, ugh, okay. And I don't, I know. I mean, she wasn't, she was like, it was very innocent and like, it wasn't judging them. I just think she didn't know anything about drugs and
00:29:56
Speaker
She just worked where people would wander in. Enough people were would wander in that are on drugs. And like, so now I can't even tell this girl that I smoke, but they were fun and like, we're going axe throwing. But I can't tell people, I can't tell people the fucking truth around here. But now it's going to feel like a fake friendship if you can't be your honest and genuine self. Of course, you don't have to share everything, but you don't want to feel judged by things that you feel good about. yeah That's so true. maybe Maybe give it a little time and see if... Yeah, maybe eventually. But I think I am also at peace. I don't have to tell
00:30:43
Speaker
I don't have to tell people, but i can I still feel like I can make genuine connections, maybe just not that deep. I can't make a deep connection with somebody I can't tell. but well you know maybe Just for people to like do things with? I don't know. Maybe if you do make a deeper connection with her and you are feel comfortable telling her that, then maybe it'll change her mind about how see she sees and perceives you know other people. Maybe not.
00:31:15
Speaker
maybe if you ever want And maybe she'll want to try it. Yeah. Yeah. My buddy Pete did, yeah um that yeah. That's how I got into it. Maybe. I just... My therapist said something a couple weeks ago about like... Because also I just have this thing in me where Sometimes it's not really that I want to be my authentic self. I just want to like shock people with that information, you know, and like, so yeah.
Therapy, Personal Growth, and EMDR
00:31:54
Speaker
See how they react. We are on the same kind of mental bullshit because I've told you how sometimes I will just say it when I'm just not in the mood to try to think of a lie because I don't like to lie. Yeah. That's one thing too. I hate to lie, but like,
00:32:09
Speaker
It's just too bad that people are not gonna, they're not gonna accept it right away. They can't handle it. Yeah, it's got such a bad stigma. Yeah, it's dumb. But, yeah. I was shocked when I got it fucking flagged, man. That's shitty. It has to be that. I wrote him an email and to fucking ask him.
00:32:38
Speaker
Did we get back to you? Do I look fucking stoned or what? Look at me. That's okay. You look fine in there, yeah. I can't see any on top. My eyes are just little and red, but I feel great. I hadn't got stoned in like a few days because EMDR, I know I talk about this shit all the time, y'all, but People should know about EMDR. I think I'm gonna be fucking done with it. Next week, for a while, and like, I feel like a new fucking woman. It's amazing.
Vacation Plans and Work Disconnection
00:33:19
Speaker
Yeah, it is. What's that? It's really fucking great. I, um... Yeah, what the fuck have y'all been doing? Rosie, what are you...
00:33:31
Speaker
working on projects? Anything you're excited about? I just finished that Domi series that I was working on and I have four Stepmom, Stepson videos to make still. I got a little behind because of COVID and then another one that's just small and then I don't know if I'll finish in time, but on Monday I'm leaving and I'm driving to the beach and I'm going to film a vacation movie, a stepmom movie, and it's something I've never done before. I've never been brave enough to take a trip on my own. I'm so proud of you. Thank you. it's ah It's about a lot of things. It's about just being able to go and just be who I really am.
00:34:24
Speaker
and enjoy myself and also just take a little vacation by myself for the first time ever. Hell yeah. That's amazing. That'll be awesome. That's what I'm doing. ah That'll be awesome. yeah Yeah. Yeah, I really just needed it. I just need to get away for a minute. I always feel super inspired when I travel and feel good. So you're going to make something hot. Good for you. Make someone a fucking go on a little vacay by myself. Yeah. ah Well, yeah. What are you guys up to? Not I'm going on a little vacay next weekend with my boyfriend. Nice. Really exciting. We're going to, we're flying to a big city, which will be nice. Nice. Yeah. I'm up to all all the fun.
00:35:20
Speaker
I don't have any fucking, no I am, I'm going on a cruise. A couple weeks. It's my first cruise. Yeah. i god i agree I'm leaving in like three weeks y'all and I was like, I'm not going to vacation. i'm a dumb That's awesome. Yeah, you're pretty stupid. Yeah, fuck thanks Pete. Just kidding. Always being an asshole. he's covered honesty Yeah, it's love.
Experiences in the Adult Industry
00:35:50
Speaker
Yeah, I'm be excited about that. I might actually not.
00:35:55
Speaker
make any content on that one. Because since I've started this, I've not went on a vacation and not made content. Yeah. So am I might just enjoy it. Yeah. Like I have to make myself do that. Yeah. Okay. Fair. I didn't do anything. Did I make it in? I don't think so because... That was before I started my diet and I was like... That was, yeah, you were basically in bed all the time. Which was fine. I laid in bed with you. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. That was only like a month before I started my diet and was healed. Yeah. So that'll be good. Yeah. Don't make any contact. So everybody's going on a little make a... Yeah, look at us. Look at us. I know.
00:36:55
Speaker
being adults and shit, but yeah.
00:37:02
Speaker
All right, friends, I think we can just make it a short little podcast for the people tonight. I think I'm gonna go have a little snack. Maybe get laid. Oh my gosh. gosh Lucky girl.
00:37:26
Speaker
Get dicked down. I hope it's great. I hope it's like a squirting fest of multiple orgasms. Have you ever squirted? Have y'all squirted? I don't squirt, no. Do you squirt, Rosie? Yeah. You want me to teach you how. Well, for me it's positional. It's if, if he's doing missionary and my legs are up on his shoulders and then the butt is like lifted and then he like the G spot becomes within aim and then they just start whacking it. Wow. All right. It's really cool. It's fun. I want to have to look into that. I'm always like,
00:38:20
Speaker
I don't know. There's something about sometimes when he's hitting the G spot. It becomes like too much for me. I don't always enjoy it. Maybe he should not go quite as deep with that or maybe hit it slower and just really get your mind into just the craziness of how you feel about him and what he's doing to you and then just love that Gosh it. I hope I hope you can
00:38:56
Speaker
I'm gonna try it. I doubt I will. Maybe. Maybe it will be tonight. I'll let y'all know. But don't put any pressure on yourself. yeah It happens, it happens. Let us know. I will. Any last word for the crazy people out there watching or listening? Come watch me on chatterbait. Buy my videos on mini-vids. I've got like a few up there actually. I haven't put any up since probably like a year. I think I've sold two videos in a year. Yeah, or go buy his videos there.
00:39:39
Speaker
Yeah, get him so that he'll start putting up more content. Yeah. the videos See, the videos are hard. It's just so much, that's what I like about Chatterbait is I can log on for a few hours, chill, dance around, whatever. that yeah i don't you know I'm not committed to making these videos. and For me it was stressful. I know for y'all it was much more like a creative process. Yeah. Yeah. And eventually though, people will, they can go to your mini-vents from Chatterbait and order customs and shit. I can put the link to mini-vents on Chatterbait, that's allowed. You can do like a link tree.
00:40:21
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