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Episode 306: Immediate Post-Match Reaction - Harrowing Loss at Blackburn

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Southampton – No defending that, so I won't be! Zak has a little rant before full-recording tomorrow

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Introduction to the UV Daily Southampton Podcast

00:00:15
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Hello and welcome back to the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. I am your host today, Zak Ingoe Finch. There is no Greg.

Post-Match Reactions: Southampton's Frustrating Week

00:00:24
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This is a post-match sort of reaction. We've never really done one of these before, but because we usually record quite late on a Sunday night, I guess the red mist can drop a little bit and our opinions can sort of flip back.
00:00:38
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And I don't... I guess also I just wanted to talk about it because, like, can talk to my wife, I'd love her, but I've been back and forth with Greg, but is unfortunately off to a comedy show, so he can't do a, you know, not as if the football was as much of a joke for today, but, yeah, just had to kind of put my thoughts to pen to paper.

Analyzing Recent Losses and Team Performance

00:01:03
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I tweeted out a minute ago that we've had some darn new losses, in my time as a Southampton fan, right, in the last decade. already bad.
00:01:14
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You know, Leicester one probably slightly worse than the Manchester United one. Manchester United one would at least the excuse of 10 men. Somehow today's loss felt worse. And I think that that's because coming off of the back of really lacklustre week, right, of we should have won against Swansea and oh, if only we took in our chances, which is at this point the story of the last sort of two, three years.
00:01:36
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Followed by absolute capitulation at Bristol City, which which I think a lot of the blame was shouldered on the players. And I kind of agree with that at the time, right? Like, it it's basically their job. And, you know, i think Shea Charles put it quite rightly, that

Critique of Managerial Decisions

00:01:54
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they were trained and they were set up to win both of those matches and they were the ones that were able to do that.
00:02:01
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Today, I don't... really understand what I watched. We took the lead from a brilliant solo effort from probably our great greatest creative player.
00:02:14
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The one that, in my mind at least, has taken on the talisman Mati Fernandes role since Fernandes decided to go lose elsewhere.
00:02:23
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And so there's been a bit of a breath fresh air the last couple of games, but it's it's now becoming like it was last season where we talked about these individual standout performances from sort like Fernandes, who wasn't the best. Don't get me wrong, he's very good for us, but like, you know, the Dibling, same again, because that's all we kind of have to look forward to.
00:02:40
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And we've been quite vocal advocates of Will Still know, we did a profile on him early on.

Coaching Decisions Under Scrutiny

00:02:45
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We were quite happy, we were quite looking forward to him being in. don't know if my opinion will change by tomorrow night,
00:02:51
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I don't know if it's going matter because you might not be here tomorrow night. And I know it sounds a bit dramatic, but subbing off the... Whether it was an injury or not, subbing off our most creative player for our captain, who is a centre-back, to then drop into the midfield...
00:03:08
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with a one goal lead, and I can't work out if it was the defensive lead. I can't really work out what the... The best way it's summed up is by Greg, actually, who who said, oh when Will still does these things, they can look like insanity. And if they pay off, it's footballing genius.
00:03:27
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And when they don't, they look ridiculous. And now it's it's starting to be that all of these sort changes are kind of panning over to the more ridiculous. And like the fact that everybody vocally, you know, maybe maybe vocally projecting it out the ground contributed to them not doing that great But I don't want to blame any of our fans because I think if you've travelled the way back then, watch that.

Match Chaos and Strategic Errors

00:03:51
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And that is what you you get. And, you know, you you watch a goal go in, a lovely piece of solo work that wasn't, you know, wasn't necessarily a team goal. It was a capitalising on mistake, but that's what we want our players to do.
00:04:02
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To then watch Adam Armstrong fail to score, Alex McCarthy have to make probably way more saves than he should. and And then us lose ultimately the end.
00:04:12
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I cannot have a go at the fans for questioning sort of the decisions. And ultimately, they were proven right. Because as soon as that changed in place, we went from being sort of 1-0 up to 2-1 down. Now, I can understand, what I guess, wanting to defend a lead, but like 67 minutes in, really?

Impact of Player Injuries on Performance

00:04:28
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And like I understand that we put some illness around the camp and stuff, but we sent on a player without his shirt. kids like It's like a a visual
00:04:39
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representation of how we all kind of feel in the chaos that's going on. and like I understand that it's a a ship that needs to be steadied, right? We did have the second to worst Premier League season all time last season. It was never going to be an easy task, but there have been money has been money spent there has been players brought in and I don't again like we've we've also kind of back and forth about whether it's the the influence of how shaky everything is on the new signings rather than the new signings saying hey guys maybe we should win like but you could see the ends are coming up to the fans towards the end and that for me is like demonstrative and he's like I want to turn this around I want us to do well and and don't know what it is like
00:05:19
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whether our players are like paper is difficult as well. Like considering illness has wiped out half the camp and then we've now had probably two injuries, right? Cameron Archer, know how bad that was.
00:05:31
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And then obviously you've got Shea Charles, which is six significantly more important. He's probably when one of the driving forces is of our team. say probably be driving force of the team and probably most consistent player so far this season.
00:05:44
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I'm hoping that's not long-term, but when someone grabs their hamstring like that, you know it's kind of game over. And to sort of swap striker for for Ryan and Fraser when we've got this, you know, somebody from the under-21s that's been scoring for fun that, you know, Nick's, he's going to get a yeah, so it's going to be really good

Looking Ahead: Future Matches and Morale

00:06:02
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to have him with us. Like, you know, don't know if he'll get his chance yet.
00:06:04
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So they've brought him with the matchday squad. They've got him on the bench. The striker's gone off. They don't want to put downs on. Just give him a punt. Like, and I can understand. It's it's all, oh, well, that's what I thought was the best decision at the time. And I can understand that to an extent, but like,
00:06:20
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I just don't know how much more sort of like banter we can take. like we are we have We have just lost to a team that have not won at home so far this season, where we were supposed to be like one of the teams that are on for promotion.

Reflecting on Strategic Decisions and Outcomes

00:06:31
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We're not one of... We're playing our rivals again after the most boring game of football we for the South Coast derby. We've got that coming up again. you know Not straight away, thankfully, but it's going to be something that's important and for all of us to...
00:06:48
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you know, doesn't feel good, right? I think everyone's in the same boat. It doesn't feel good. But that was just embarrassing. embarrassing. Like, there's just no other word for it. and And the problem is, is like as I said, we usually...
00:07:02
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We would be quite big backers of Will still, but that's kind of 100% on him. The change was negative. It was designed to try and hold a 1-0 lead, which just hasn't worked really in our favour so far.
00:07:14
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The only time that we've even managed to defend a lead like that has been against Sheffield United, where I'll hold our hands up and say like we had some questionable refereeing decisions go our way for that game.
00:07:26
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And it's not like Blackburn hadn't knocked on the door a few times already. Like, they seemed bereft of confidence and, you know, they had a striker or whoever, central midfielder, like, go out with head injury. He's there with a swimming cap on and try to, you know.
00:07:41
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I just, I've genuinely, it's just harrowing.

Fan Frustrations and Management's Role

00:07:46
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I don't know how else to describe it. It's just, as as games go,
00:07:50
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i am I found that harrowing. i i It was sort of, you got to half-time, but it's becoming like a script at this point. Like, if if it's not that they peg a goal back and then we manage to end it on a 1-1 draw, the problem is is that that that was not fine, but it's much better than now, apparently, what it's descending into, is that we score a goal and then we fail to take our chances, you know, out of Armstrong...
00:08:16
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not taking two or three chances is a problem. And then after that, we're now being punished for it. And then we seem to not know what our best defence is. You've got Korshi, who has played well some of the game, but then made massive mistakes the rest of the game.
00:08:33
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Edwards, who had a really good game, but like doesn't matter if we we lose too well, no one's going to remember the role of the defender. As I said, it's just the the summary of it for me... thus far is that that was just a really, really harrowing game.
00:08:45
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We'll go into it with much more detail tomorrow. And we'll go into it with a much more level head, I'm sure. like, I don't want to deny the fact that the immediate feelings that I have after that match are, well, I don't know still, we'll see of the week.
00:09:01
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think Greg said we might have our, like, what, third on-air sacking, fourth on-air sacking when we record tomorrow night. i Some people might think that we're blowing that out proportion.
00:09:12
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But at the same time, like you look at those last three games, Swansea, Bristol City, Blackburn Rovers, what were the minimum points you needed of those?

Uncertain Management and Potential Changes

00:09:21
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I said probably six. like maybe I just felt maybe Bristol City might do better at home. We'd never really beat them home. But I thought Swansea, we should definitely be winning against some back-end rovers. Like, this is the problem where I always say to Greg, and I try not to be necessarily the more negative one all the time, which is unfortunately part of my personality.
00:09:39
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But I am genuinely shocked at how poor that game was. And don't know. the the players, the staff and and the owners need to give their heads a little bit of a wobble because it's all well and good.
00:09:53
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You know, and can understand why the people are annoyed at the ownership and what they're doing. And like, again, I think they have tried desperately to make the footballing better, but I'm, you know, with rumours of Spors going off the event, list and some people celebrating and some people not,
00:10:06
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There is an argument that stability is important, but the only thing that they the only thing that they invested in state stability-wise over the last couple of years has been, oh well, let's try and keep Russell Martin way outside the amount of time we should have kept him.
00:10:19
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So, I don't know. I don't know what the answer is. I don't know if a new manager can come in and galvanise the team. I don't know if somebody needs to come in and take them by the scruff of the neck. I don't know players need be dropped and many players need to be put through.
00:10:31
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I don't know, you know, we can't necessarily call all of the business bad because some of the business has been really, really good, as in like Scienza complete sort of like miracle find, in my opinion.
00:10:42
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Azaz, who is, you know, one of our biggest investments, just hasn't come good. Not the word for it. She's very poor. But there's just so many decisions behind the scenes that, you know, and for me, again, like confounded in the fact that, you know, not to blame of the poor kit guys, but like ultimately...
00:10:59
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Kid goes on, doesn't have his name, doesn't have his number on the back his shirt. And like, that for me is probably visual representation of how it feels at the moment.
00:11:11
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And like, I know... we keep being told and we keep trying to trust the process. We keep being told that it will come good. And I kind of gave this run of games as as time for it.
00:11:22
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And this run of games has just been disastrous. There's no other word for it. And I don't know what they're going to do. i don't know what the next steps are. But as I said, I wouldn't be surprised now if they decide to go elsewhere. But again, my big fear is if they do decide to do that, where else are they going to go?
00:11:39
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is it that they're just going to

Conclusion: Team's Current State and Fan Unity

00:11:41
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replace it. you know How much behind the scenes of the football is actually controlled by Steele? we We don't have a lot of answers to a lot of questions, but just it's just harrowing.
00:11:50
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We're all in the same boat. Ultimately, we just want to see the team succeed. We want to see us play well. We want to see us score goals. We don't want to have to deal with this week in, week out. like Football supposed to be something that we all look forward to and enjoy.
00:12:08
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i'm going to the Preston game next Saturday. I'm going with my father. We're waiting for him down from France. We're going to probably have a few beers and hope for something a little bit different.
00:12:20
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But I know for a fact that I'm going to be going into this next game feeling a little bit dejected. And that's completely fine because that's how I think we all feel.
00:12:31
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I just think that everybody just needs to give their head a little bit of a wobble because some of this has just been unacceptable, realistically. So, show us your thoughts. As I said, we'll see if the rant stays the same tomorrow, right?
00:12:45
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when When I have a proper catch-up with Greg. But I know... Currently, his feelings are very similar to mine, where he said before this week, you'd have thought the idea of still going was insane.
00:12:57
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But he was also the one that suggested we might see our fourth on air side. who knows? Let us know how you've been. Let us know your thoughts and feelings. Sorry for another negative Nelly episode, right? At the moment, it's just really hard to...
00:13:15
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get behind much, right? I know that we weren't going to necessarily steamroll the championship, but my word that I think that we would at least try and give it a better go than this. And the remember, we're all in this together.
00:13:28
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Right, it's on the socials, X, Blue Sky, Facebook we have, Instagram, YouTube. Yeah.
00:13:39
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Thank you to all of our our wonderful normal listeners. We will be back on Monday to give a a proper overview of the game and we'll talk through it beat by beat.
00:13:51
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Maybe you'll get a bit more of a structured episode because I've got all of anger out in this 15 minute run. But know that we really really appreciate you all and in enjoy, I guess, the time for it.
00:14:03
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Have a wonderful everybody. And try and enjoy the rest of your weekend now that we know the outcome of the game. Thank you, everybody, and goodbye.
00:14:26
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more of you, Saints, specifically fans.