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Episide 332: Matchday Review: Disappointment against Millwall
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Southampton –It's always rough to lose a game in the last minute, but that felt bad. Is there good to take from a spirited performance though?
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00:00:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome back to the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. My name is Greg Elliott and as always today, joined by my good friend, wonderful co-host, Sackinga Finch. How you doing, mate?
00:00:28
Zak
You say as always.
00:00:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
A couple of days off? You good, was going to say.
00:00:29
Zak
Yeah, you say as always as if I've not had like a couple of days gallivanting around the wonderful city of Bath. And by that, I mean our Christmas market. This is cool.
00:00:39
Zak
It's Christmas market. It's very similar to a lot other of Christmas markets I've been to. But add nice time. It was pretty chill. I got to watch the NFL on Thanksgiving in a hotel. That was pretty cool. Yeah.
00:00:51
Zak
I did watch the game, unfortunately. I was back in time for that. So I'm sure we'll get to it. But yeah, it's been been a nice couple of few days off where I'd like to say that I'm really, really relaxed and chilled. But if anything, I'm still pretty stressed. so
00:01:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, look, mate.
00:01:05
Zak
And the result didn't help. Let's put that way, Greg. Shall we?
00:01:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, look, mate. Let's get straight into it. A loss a loss for sure, it which is not ideal, but...
00:01:12
Zak
shall we
00:01:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
safe to say, spirited performance against a team in good form.
00:01:20
Zak
I mean, couple weeks ago, that would have been a 3-0 loss. We wouldn't have put in any fight back.
00:01:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:27
Zak
And even though we played bad, we still scored twice. Because like I'm not really surprised. And I think Mill will probably deserve the win, to be honest. I don't think that there was anything there that made me feel like we were going to win the game.
00:01:39
Zak
Even when we were 1-0 up, it just felt a bit, you know, could we see this out for the rest of the 90 minutes?
00:01:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't...
00:01:44
Zak
Really? Okay.
00:01:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't think we played bad.
00:01:45
Zak
Yeah.
00:01:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
i don't think we played as good as we have been playing in the previous four games, but I don't think we were bad. We were still looking better than we were prior to those four games, I think.
00:01:54
Zak
isn it it Isn't it worrying...
00:02:00
Zak
But don't you find it slightly worrying that when you are missing one player, the entirety of this team's levels just drop a little bit. Because that is how it kind of feels.
00:02:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:02:09
Zak
is like you know Again, Jay Robinson could not deal with the physicality of Millwall. He needs a Balkan regime or something like that. I don't know.
00:02:19
Zak
I'm not one of those guys. My Balkan regime is a Turkey-Turby-Carvery, mate. So it's not really the same as fighting for your place in Premier League, but
00:02:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
he
00:02:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
he he suffers the same flaws, I think, as Tyler Diblin suffered a bit with last year, where he he either tries to do a bit too much with the ball and just not release it early enough, or just goes down a bit too easily.
00:02:46
Zak
Yeah, kind of kind of agree with with both of those points. I think it's just a bit of a struggle. And then obviously, like I think Azaz picked up some criticism, but realistically, he's like, what, four and four now? So I don't think that, you know, it's the kind of, that that second goal, which was was the equaliser from us,
00:03:07
Zak
the way that I feel about that game is that, again, if this was a game a couple of, you know, even a couple of weeks ago, we we're not scoring that second goal. Like, I know that it might have been easy.
00:03:18
Zak
I know it might have been essentially a tapping, but we wouldn't have had the fight and spirit to get up the pitch and, you know, score that. And realistically,
00:03:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
It wasn't really a tap-in. It was a chance created from a set-piece that required a save that rebounded out that then was put away because we were chasing the ball in from the set-piece, which is not...
00:03:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know that's That's not something that we have done previously.
00:03:37
Zak
True, but you would expect... But you would expect... That's my point, is you'd expect the player in that position to score that goal nine times out of ten, right? But usually for Saints, nine times out ten, we would somehow manage to kick that over the bar.
00:03:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:03:50
Zak
So...
00:03:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
I actually think worse than that, I just don't think there'd have been a player in that position.
00:03:55
Zak
yeah or that Yeah, that is also the other thing, right? Is that we would hoof the ball into the box no one would be there.
00:03:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:03:59
Zak
And so, yeah, it's's it's kind of a difficult one to take. But like I think that the things I am genuinely most baffled by was the post-match reaction.
00:04:08
Zak
Yeah. from some of our fans. I don't know if it's just the people that were then that were annoyed and still a little bit... had their beer levels a little bit up.
00:04:19
Zak
But the idea that Millwall was the only true test in five games, for me, is a little bit insane. Because we were going through the stats and you were talking about it. First time in, I don't know, 15, 20 years that we'd won four in a row?
00:04:32
Zak
And, OK, we have a game that's bad.
00:04:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's say Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:35
Zak
And our reaction to it is to somehow manage to get... to a drawing position, right? So we go 1-0 up for a penalty, which, do we want to talk about that? we want to go back to the start before I start, like, completely throwing off our order?
00:04:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:48
Zak
Were you surprised by the team sheet missing Sienza?
00:04:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Let's get start the start, mate.
00:04:51
Zak
Like, obviously he was ill.
00:04:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, no, we heard we heard in the press that he was ill and he was likely going to be missing.
00:04:54
Zak
There you go.
00:04:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
And, you know, it's it's a shame. And it was always going to be a struggle because he's such an influential part of the team.
00:05:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
And you're right, we missed him because he he's the sort of the force that assists making that transition as quick as it is. Because he's either picking the ball up and dragging play forward himself, or he is running forward in a scary enough capacity without the ball.
00:05:15
Zak
not not
00:05:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
that He's creating space for the other players to play themselves forward. So it's, you know, he is a big miss, but...
00:05:34
Zak
There's also the fighting spirit against a team like Millwall. It's like I could see them 100% picking up a red card if Sienza's on that pitch because of how frustrated they would get with him.
00:05:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, equally I could see Sienza getting into a fight and getting himself sent off because he's not exactly a level-headed temperament.
00:05:47
Zak
This is... i don't think necessarily that's true. I think he's had a bit of Barney, but i also don't think... I think there are situations that he has been in when he has been taken out.
00:05:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. He's got that Brazilian fire in him. You can see it.
00:06:01
Zak
Yes, for sure.
00:06:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's...
00:06:02
Zak
But like there are a couple of situations, I think, where he could have completely lost his head and has not. And I think that with some of the players we've had in the past, they probably would have, right?
00:06:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:12
Zak
So, yeah, some it's it's it was always going to be difficult without him.
00:06:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:17
Zak
And it was always going to be difficult for Jay Robinson to step into that place and and sort of play that role, especially against a team of that level of physicality. But like who else have we really got to go in there?
00:06:29
Zak
That's my other thing.
00:06:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. I mean, especially as well without... you know I don't think that either Bragg or Yander had a bad game to call them out, but also they're not the experienced head of a Flynn Downs a Shea Charles to that might have given Robinson that bit of extra confidence or or freedom to do that or or sort of push themselves like that.
00:06:38
Zak
aye
00:06:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right? Right.
00:06:57
Zak
You say that Flynn Downs picking up a yellow card every game of the season means that in a game like that he would pick up a red ho
00:07:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, yeah, maybe you're right.
00:07:05
Zak
hey ho But yeah, obviously, Cam Bragg happened him to come in for Flynn Downs. He did get himself suspended and was annoyed about it. At the same time, it's like, i'd love to I'd love to understand why he feels that pain.
00:07:17
Zak
But also, as we pointed out many, many times before, it's the safest bet in football that he will pick up a yellow at some point, even if it's needlessly.
00:07:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:25
Zak
It just seems to be, you know, what used to be for from our old boy, Romelu, which I'm sure we'll talk to talk about at some point. Obviously, like, Stephen's in again.
00:07:35
Zak
For Kwashi, how did you feel about that?
00:07:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, i think, again, it makes sense because we we heard in the the presser that, or at least coming out of the match after after the game on Tuesday, that that actually quasi was brought in as an answer to a problem that Leicester presented. And...
00:07:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
and and the the problems that you're going to face at Millwall at the Den are not that same problem.
00:08:01
Zak
Completely different, right?
00:08:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it's a completely different environment. And so it's it's one way you'd expect the experience and leadership of Jack Stevens to be the sort of prevailing quality that was that was important.
00:08:16
Zak
Didn't really do much though, did it? You know...
00:08:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, no.
00:08:20
Zak
you know
00:08:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
but I mean, you talk about their goals, and you talk about our goals, right? And their first goal... I mean, I've i've got it written down from from what was reach their first goal. I mean, if should Baz have done better?
00:08:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Was my thought watching it.
00:08:37
Zak
I mean, he pulled off a really good save in the first half. He's pulled off some really good saves that have kept us winning in the previous games. He had not the greatest game yesterday. i feel like when a striker misses an opportunity, we swiftly move on.
00:08:51
Zak
When a goalkeeper concedes goals, we completely... The but the critics come out in heavy hands.
00:08:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:59
Zak
and like we've We've beaten this goalkeeper conversation to death over the point over the since since the start of the season.
00:09:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:06
Zak
By sending Ramsdale out on loan and not replacing a proper first-course goalkeeper, we are switching between two goalkeepers that arguably, at this level, we would prefer to have somebody else.
00:09:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:09:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mate...
00:09:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
I actually think I went on record on the preview episode where you weren't here, mate, to hear it and said I'm just done about with talking about it because Zunu's the first choice.
00:09:17
Zak
So...
00:09:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is what it is and we're done.
00:09:27
Zak
Yeah, no, no, i i know But then obviously we lost 3-2, so I wanted to drag it out and make your life worse.
00:09:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
and But also, yeah, yeah.
00:09:33
Zak
Because...
00:09:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah I think he probably could have done better for the first goal, but I don't know. It's a tough one. It's gone through a crowd, so you don't know how much visibility he's had of it. The second goal, I mean, a Rebo should be closer to the player. He shouldn't have enough that space to shoot, but even if a Rebo's close to the player, what are doing about that? That's just an absolute rocket.
00:09:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just one of those goals that you sit back and look at and go, well, yeah, fair enough.
00:09:56
Zak
Yeah, like...
00:09:57
Zak
it game Again, like, fantastic game for if any for if for someone that is not a Millwall Saints fan to watch, right?
00:10:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:07
Zak
Well, fantastic game for Millwall fans, but, like, you know, neutral's got an absolute treat from from some of the goals that were scored.
00:10:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:14
Zak
But the other thing is, like, we went to a team that are, what, like, sit third now? We're fourth, I think, at the time. we We knew they were going to be hard to play. We're playing them at home.
00:10:26
Zak
what did we think was going to happen, right? Like, it was going to be a really, really hard game, but we it was won in the last minute.
00:10:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:33
Zak
It's not like we were beaten thoroughly. It's not like it was 5-0 or the way that people are treating about it. I think probably, know, not that I wasn't meaning to be harsh at the beginning of the episode when was talking about, like, some of the reaction to it.
00:10:45
Zak
I think, again, it's more just that it was a late goal and it annoys everybody because it's such a saints thing to happen. But I guess we'll talk a bit...
00:10:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's a horrible way to lose, but...
00:10:53
Zak
We'll talk a bit more about it, I guess, and talk a bit more about the game and some other moments like the the debuts, cameo, re-debut, whatever you want to call of it, of Romeo after a word from our partners at Bionic. Does that sound good, mate?
00:11:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sounds good to me.
00:11:08
Zak
Perfect.
00:11:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Alright mate, we're back. You started talking about it before we went back to the beginning but let's let let's go to our goals. We talked about the Millwall goals for a bit.
00:11:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
The penalty. I think we've got varying viewpoints on it from from our brief discussion before recording.
00:12:05
Zak
Interesting.
00:12:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Brief discussion. Let's...
00:12:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
But...
00:12:12
Zak
but My wife being like, so you guys going to start talking about saints at any point? Right.
00:12:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
But what are your thoughts on the putter? What are you thinking?
00:12:25
Zak
It was difficult to what happened initially. The referee is not there to control how the game works, realistically. He's a referee. Something happened.
00:12:36
Zak
he He said he you know he he said it was penalty.
00:12:41
Zak
if we had had a play like one of the conversations I think that you're going to get to is that you're going to be if we did something like that I'd be really fuming I was like but also if one of our players like pushed over an opposition player and we got given a penalty against us then I'm more annoyed at the player than I am at the referee for calling it like you can't just be know
00:12:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just
00:13:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think Harwood Bennis was it I think it was Harwood Bennis that got brought down
00:13:05
Zak
it's hard with Bellis went down
00:13:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think he made a meal of it. I've got to be honest, mate. I think he he felt a pull on the shirt, and there was a pull on the shirt. And so I guess by the letter of the law, sure, it's penalty. But I think it's soft, and I think if it's given against us, I'm livid is where I'm at.
00:13:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think it think it probably is a penalty. I just don't like to see them given because it seems so ridiculous.
00:13:30
Zak
Okay, so hit here you go. And this and this might be, a not to be too conspiracy theory-esque, but is it because we're at Millwall's home ground and the the referee is trying to stamp his authority quite quite clearly that he's not going to be dealing with messing around, right, for the entirety of the game?
00:13:46
Zak
And it's just as simple as that. mate We don't know how many, how many like, I don't know how many corners, we I can't remember how many corners we had up to that point, or how many corners or how many set pieces are taking place in the game. Is it that he has got completely tired of both sets, you know, messing about and constantly jeering and getting annoyed that when he saw it happen in front of him, he just went, right, here's a penalty, be done with it.
00:14:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, you're right. Maybe he's, you know, maybe he's had a word in the other corners and said, look, I've seen enough of it. And then it's just carried on, which you know I guess it's fair enough.
00:14:17
Zak
Because cause like cause the mid-ball players proceeded to every single one of their quarters immediately go to the referee and be like, remember what you gave, which, like to be clear, like i get...
00:14:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, I just...
00:14:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, look, I just, I think... I like to see it from both sides. And I think if it was given against us, I'd be fuming.
00:14:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I empathise with Millwall, who might feel the same. But I think it is still a foul, and it probably is a penalty. i just feel softed It isn't it?
00:14:44
Zak
yeah but I think i think this is yeah but like this is the other reason that we're...
00:14:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, is realistically as well, is Harwood better to actually get anywhere near that ball?
00:14:48
Zak
don't
00:14:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Probably not.
00:14:53
Zak
mate. He scored two pre two headers previously in the previous game.
00:14:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, but he was he was he was not close to that delivery, right?
00:14:57
Zak
i don't know what you're talking about. Look. But...
00:15:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, that delivery was an in-swinger towards the six-yard box, and he got pulled down beyond the penalty spot when the ball was more than halfway in.
00:15:02
Zak
look
00:15:09
Zak
But it's a penalty and we need to score that penalty for it to matter, right?
00:15:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, it's...
00:15:13
Zak
That's the other thing about it.
00:15:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:15:14
Zak
Like, I know that people just assume a penalty is automatically a goal. We've seen with Adam Armstrong so far, that isn't the case this season, right?
00:15:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's not been the case with us, is it? know. Yeah.
00:15:21
Zak
You know, can't remember what game it was that, to be honest, him coming out and saying, great, Penn, that was one of the funniest parts of that game.
00:15:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:15:27
Zak
Probably because of Farram and Brydie. We lost that one too. But...
00:15:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I think we won. i think we won. that That's why it was... Yeah.
00:15:34
Zak
one of the two things, right?
00:15:35
Zak
Or it was a draw.
00:15:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:15:36
Zak
I can't remember entirely. You know, we we cover so much Saints, it's quite hard to keep up with. But either way, like, yeah I don't know. i'm not I'm not too upset about it.
00:15:46
Zak
I don't think that the refereeing in the Championship has been half as painful as it's been. in when we were in the Premier League and I think that's partly down to the fact that we're not having to analyse every decision through VAR I think that because he gives it straight away even if it's rescinded on VAR they're probably not taking it away because they'll go with the on-field decision he decided it was like I would be livid if it went against us as well probably mate but also if you're doing something that is a foul and that can result in a penalty then that's on you like say same I'd probably again I'd probably be more annoyed
00:16:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
By the way, it was against Sheffield United Adam Armstrong missed penalty where we did go on to win.
00:16:19
Zak
Oh, right. Yeah, that was the game. Okay. So, yeah, that was the game that we basically...
00:16:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:16:23
Zak
The game where the referee kind of won us the game. So, again, even tried to help us with a penalty, but it still didn't help us.
00:16:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:30
Zak
and We still managed to just about squeeze it.
00:16:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:32
Zak
But, yeah, like, it just... It's it's frustrating. I get why you find find it frustrating. And I get why Millwall fans would find it frustrating. But also, like, like don't tug on the shirts.
00:16:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:42
Zak
Simple as that, isn't it, really? Like...
00:16:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah yeah
00:16:45
Zak
That goes for both sides. And then we obviously had to make sure we didn't do that the entirety of the rest of the game. And maybe if there's like actions, like consequences for actions, you'll actually start to see those things properly in the game.
00:16:56
Zak
But I don't know. I don't think we're going to fully agree on it, mate.
00:16:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, but anyway, let's move on to to substitutions then.
00:17:01
Zak
yeah
00:17:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
And, I mean...
00:17:06
Zak
Oh, good.
00:17:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Jumaribo?
00:17:12
Zak
How do I say it in a way where I don't really want to be mean?
00:17:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right, look.
00:17:17
Zak
I don't think I can.
00:17:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Jumaribo has always been, joe rebo has always been for me, a very hot and cold player
00:17:23
Zak
Yeah, we've discussed this a lot.
00:17:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
where
00:17:25
Zak
like This isn't the first time that we've had a conversation where we've been like, yeah, it's really weird.
00:17:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:30
Zak
like He goes through a little bit of a spell of form. But like man, like to to be one of the few players that we have fully with a song and that we sing it when he comes on.
00:17:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:39
Zak
Do you remember towards the the end of of Will Stills' reign? like The amount of outcry for Joe Eribo to come in and play.
00:17:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:46
Zak
right like Where's Joe Eribo? He would come in and do do the absolute numbers. And it reminds me very much of when Bela Koçap last season was like, oh, if we bring him into the defence, he'll be solid. And he had like one good game and the other game was a bit bad and he just never played again.
00:18:00
Zak
And it seems to be very similar things, right? Where he was in he was in the bomb squad and was like going to go out and then others obviously stayed because he didn't get a good enough offer. Because if remember rightly, we didn't even get a proper link for him.
00:18:11
Zak
It was like somebody in Turkey offered him a
00:18:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Somewhere in Turkey.
00:18:14
Zak
offered him a game and he was like, no.
00:18:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:17
Zak
So he's missed out on like pretty much everything like preseason, all that kind of stuff. He's come into the game and then just like, again, it was like, he's walking through treacle. Like I just, I've never seen he just kept losing the ball.
00:18:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:30
Zak
It was just watching him was like, well, this was an absolutely terrible substitution. And I don't know what he's doing in training. I don't know if it's because he's got something in his contract. Who knows, right? Like, Ekker came out in defense of him, which was a bit weird because I'm like, you know, maybe he's just not at that stage where he's willing to criticize anyone properly yet.
00:18:47
Zak
And maybe that's just how his management style is. Who knows? But like, what why would he just doesn't look like he even wants to be like there's just there's no pace there's no energy just a bit of a nothing burger really isn't it and if anything you know as you pointed out with him sort of being in the way for that second goal and not chasing down his man and stuff you could is the defeat entirely on him like a lot of criticism on Baz but like where I'm at is that we don't make that substitution it wasn't
00:18:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:19:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:15
Zak
not to Not to hark too much on about it, but I think it was not a positive substitution. And he's come on previously to see a game over the line.
00:19:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I agree.
00:19:22
Zak
I don't think that he should come on at that point to see that game over the line because I don't think that it was a very positive substitution at all. And it just didn't work, clearly. So i don't know how much we'll see him, but like what's the point of...
00:19:37
Zak
We've got this big squad and we're we're wasting space for somebody that doesn't really want to be here. And I don't like that, I think, is where I'm at.
00:19:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. i think I think that's fair. And then other substitutions. Orumeu with his re-debut and back on the pitch.
00:19:53
Zak
Yeah, he sure was there. He looked like a man that had not played football in a hot minute.
00:19:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Looks like a man. He looks like a man, Zach, who, you know, seven days previously we were told was a few weeks away. Yeah.
00:20:05
Zak
Yeah, like, pretty pretty much. like it was it was more It seemed to be more of a boost for the away fans than anything else. And, like, you know, fair enough, it would be. And it was it was glossed over, i think, by the Millwall commentary. But, yeah, it's just... it was It was okay. He sure did play some football.
00:20:23
Zak
It wasn't anything to write home about. It would have been really nice. I'll tell you what I did see. that was slightly There were a couple of times where like he was asking the bath ball to be passed to him and it wasn't happening and he was getting visibly frustrated.
00:20:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
He
00:20:33
Zak
he There were a couple of times where he tried to get forward and no one passed him. And I could see him being visibly frustrated. So that was nice because obviously clearly like you know clearly you could see he wanted it more.
00:20:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
cares.
00:20:44
Zak
I don't know whether or not him having it would have maybe if they've been able to do much.
00:20:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:48
Zak
But... but like You could tell that he's still got that fight in him, but yeah, I think he still needs a little bit more time, and I imagine we're going to see him in cameo appearances like this for a royal...
00:20:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, for for at least the more. Do you know what? That's probably fine. I think I talked about in the preview, right? Like, we're probably not expecting Cam Bragg to pull out a full 90 minutes at this point because of his youth.
00:21:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, Flynn's out, Charles is out. We just unfortunately left just that bit short where we were kind of forced in. You know, the options are give Romeo a cameo before he's really going to be properly ready or...
00:21:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
or put another kid on in in Barnaby Williams, which you know could equally have the same effect either way. So it's it's you know a bit of an unfortunate situation, but it is good see it back in a Saints shirt, for sure.
00:21:39
Zak
Yeah.
00:21:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hopefully it will come good the rest of the season.
00:21:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right, mate, let's let's take our last break, and then I've got the big question for you to ask.
00:21:48
Zak
two smaller points I still want to talk about, but then that's fine.
00:21:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:22:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right, we are back. Go on then, let's talk about your points.
00:22:30
Zak
What happened to Archer? Is Is he upset somebody? Because this isn't the first time this has happened, where like he just seems to not be in favour anymore.
00:22:43
Zak
And I'm guessing it's probably because he's not scoring goals.
00:22:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, he was out with a knock for a while, right? And then he was supposed to be back.
00:22:49
Zak
Yeah, but he's back now, and he wasn't even in the Matchday squad, so...
00:22:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, so I don't know. I don't know. Maybe he took, you know, maybe something. Maybe he was off sick. I don't know. Maybe he took a knock. Yeah, it's a strange one, isn't it?
00:23:03
Zak
i just I think that he's going to go in January.
00:23:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
i don't know.
00:23:05
Zak
And I think that we should have probably, when there were offers for him potentially in the summer, we probably should have taken them and maybe then reinvested it into a different striker.
00:23:16
Zak
Because, you know, I...
00:23:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's It's a shame, right? Because there was a moment in time in this season where I thought he was going to be the goal-scoring answer to all of our problems, and that just never really came to be.
00:23:26
Zak
That's pretty much been his Saints career, mate, is the problem.
00:23:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
There's sparks. Yeah, there there's sparks in there when when you see him play, but yeah.
00:23:34
Zak
the The problem is is we can see we we can say that for two seasons straight and then we've got like this this Brazilian lad that's come through from like the fifth tier of Swedish football right through to the German third, second and first league who's come in and grasped that opportunity with every single fibre of his being and like...
00:23:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:23:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:23:53
Zak
In comparison, taking like sort of two seasons to still not really get off the mark and then maybe have like a good game and then be undroppable, but then not have three games in a row that go well.
00:24:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:05
Zak
Which kind of sucks, to be honest.
00:24:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, let's hope that...
00:24:07
Zak
I hope that he comes good.
00:24:08
Zak
And I hope that if he gets another go in the side, it like, don't know, boosts him a little bit to try a bit harder and score a goal. That's what you want.
00:24:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, absolutely.
00:24:17
Zak
It's really, isn't it?
00:24:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that's i mean it's all we're really after. And I guess also let's just hope that they've had like a group whip round and sent a whole boatload of chicken soup and lemsip to Leo Sienza's house.
00:24:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
right like Yeah, that's nice.
00:24:28
Zak
Yeah, hopefully. I don't really want to... We've got an actual full week of recovery now. So that's...
00:24:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Did you have another point to touch on?
00:24:38
Zak
You were just talking about substitutions. We got to see Ryan Fraser again. That was all right. then I don't know. don't know. How did you feel about Fraser's cameo, mate? Because struggled a little bit, but...
00:24:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, yeah, I mean, look, it's one of those things, right, where that is always the position that... It's the toughest position to come on and make an impact in.
00:25:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's also the position you're most likely to need a change in because it is is a high-energy, high-work, great physical position.
00:25:09
Zak
Physical, right?
00:25:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it's it's always tough when you come on and you know have to fight against Millwall when you're only four foot three.
00:25:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know.
00:25:25
Zak
And the only other thing was, I don't understand where seven minutes came from, but I will point out that original initially Millwall fans were more bothered by it than we were, because that shows you how kind of end-to-end it was.
00:25:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:37
Zak
And I guess that from a positive perspective, as much as it was a loss, like we didn't really deserve to win.
00:25:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:45
Zak
Some people feel like we didn't really so deserve to take anything off from it, which I think is a bit strange because we still managed to keep it 2-2 right up until the death, which where previously we'd have gone 1-0 up and then it would have ended up like four one right? where we're We're showing a little bit better.
00:26:00
Zak
I just you know i just don't think we you know we weren't able to get it over the line, but I'm not devastated by the loss and I don't think it's half as extreme
00:26:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
but It was always going to be a tough game. And when you look.
00:26:09
Zak
they are They are in their position by merit, right?
00:26:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:13
Zak
that's That's where I'm at. It's the same thing I ironically said about Charlton and then Charlton went on to lose their next three games. But you can only play what is in front of you and they are a team that have done really, really well so far this season.
00:26:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:26
Zak
So, yeah, right.
00:26:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
As some of us predicted. So...
00:26:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
I've got cruise on that one piece of like good outcome and prediction because my FPL is tanking. So... Right, mate. I do have the big question for you, but rather than rather than draw it out and have a big conversation about it, because we're running short on time, I just want...
00:26:45
Zak
Sure.
00:26:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
a very short one or two word answer, and then we'll discuss it at length tomorrow.
00:26:57
Zak
oh perfect.
00:26:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, uh, it's Tom to the man for the job.
00:27:02
Zak
Yes.
00:27:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right, good.
00:27:03
Zak
Who else is there?
00:27:05
Zak
Ooh, Gary O'Neal. How excited?
00:27:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:27:08
Zak
Brendan Rodgers.
00:27:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right.
00:27:10
Zak
Michael Carrick.
00:27:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, I feel like, uh, I'm in, I'm in complete agreement.
00:27:11
Zak
Neither... Nah, yeah, of course he is.
00:27:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think that the, the quality he's got out of the team so far speaks for itself.
00:27:20
Zak
We won four games in a row.
00:27:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Uh,
00:27:23
Zak
doubled Will Stills' tally. He doubled Vajuric's tally.
00:27:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:27
Zak
He duy i b got a win, which is better than Simon Rusk.
00:27:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:31
Zak
He's not better. He doubled Sellis' tally.
00:27:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
He got more points in the league than we're still already to say.
00:27:37
Zak
Double Jones' tally. Like, look. It doesn't matter.
00:27:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:41
Zak
Oh, they weren't proper teams. What you mean? can say that about all the other managers that we've had, including Russell Martin, where he should have won four in a row because, you know, we were only playing championship teams.
00:27:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:54
Zak
Yes.
00:27:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Indeed.
00:27:54
Zak
There you Sorry. It was 30, 40 words.
00:27:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right, mate.
00:27:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's the short... No, mate. It's the shortest answer I could have ever expected. It's fine. Right.
00:27:57
Zak
eat forty words
00:28:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right, look, that is just about all we've got time for today. Zach, thank you very much for joining me and thank you everyone for listening. Look, a late defeat always a painful one to take, but, you know, full week of recovery and we march on to some more exciting stuff. Five in a row was always a lot to ask, right?
00:28:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:28:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Until then, everyone, have a wonderful day.
00:28:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
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