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After The Final Pour - S4E8 - Goose Island & Phase Three - I'm A Bird
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We jump into the Goose Island and Phase Three collaboration "I'm A Bird" imperial stout. This beer impressed all of us and is in the running for a favorite for the 2021 Malteez.
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Transcript
Playful Introduction and Show Setup
00:00:01
Speaker
You look like you're in like malting our heaven right now. Yeah. Which one of you is like a bird? A bird.
00:00:46
Speaker
When life gives you an empty cup, just crack a smile and fill it up, fill it up. Wow, what a great intro.
00:01:07
Speaker
the best too many doubles, I guess. Oh, god. No, no. The best part, anybody listening that's gonna think that I hate, hate the intro and I fucking love the intro. The best part was is that nobody can can see the video beforehand during the intro of three of us dancing and really actually just having a splendid time and my rose
Welcome to 'After the Final Four' and Beer Introduction
00:01:34
Speaker
Welcome to After the Final Four. I don't know when this is. I don't know where this is, but all I know is that I'm like a bird because I'm a bird.
00:01:46
Speaker
Yeah, that's what we're drinking is what is what we're drinking tonight. Brandon, you acquired these for us. What the flip are we drinking tonight, baby? I did. So I acquired so Goose Island in collaboration with phase three brewing released. If you're a bird, I'm a bird. And there are two separate beers that they released. So there's the if I'm a bird. And I'm a bird.
00:02:15
Speaker
So we are tonight drinking. I'm a bird. So you're a bird. I'm a bird. Yeah. If you're a bird, I'm a bird. Wait, who's the bird? Bird is the bird. I don't know, but tonight we are drinking. I'm a bird from Nelly Furtado.
00:02:31
Speaker
Yeah, from Nelly Furtado. Nelly Furtado Brewing. It is, I cracked it up. I cracked it up. I cracked it open. And the smell that I got, well, but before I talk about the smell of it, it is an Appeal Stout brewed with Penella, right? Am I saying that right? Penella? I think so. What the heck? What is that? What is Penella?
00:02:57
Speaker
Working on it. Where's that sunbite? I'm right on top of that rose. Fantastic. Is an unrefined whole cane sugar typical of Central and of Latin America in general. It is a solid form of sucrose derived from the boiling and evaporation of sugar cane juice. Wow, that's a lot.
00:03:20
Speaker
So it's an imperial stout brewed with vanilla, cocoa nibs, and natural strawberry flavor added. It's 11.5%.
Analyzing the Beer Collaboration
00:03:28
Speaker
We got a 16 fluid ounce can, which is one pint. Goose Island collaboration with Phase 3 when I cracked it open, poured it into my brand new Jessup Farm. Looks like a fucking wine glass. It's phenomenal.
00:03:41
Speaker
My first time using it. I smelled like strawberries and cream and like a little bit of chocolate. It smelled like you took a whiff of Neapolitan ice cream, right? Yes.
00:03:59
Speaker
Yeah, no. Go ahead, Tony. I was just going to say, I was going into the sip. You talk about what you're going to say, sorry. No, first impressions, I love it. It's interesting. I want to say, I don't want to be rude here, but I feel like this is more of a, and this is Goose Island's half, right? Yes, correct.
00:04:24
Speaker
And I feel like it's heavier and thicker and smoother for a goose island stout. I feel like phase three has a lot to do with what we're drinking in a good way. OK. I can see that. Because I don't know. I just feel like I haven't had a ton of phase three beers. I've had a number of them.
00:04:51
Speaker
I think the stats I've had are very heavy. I mean, obviously with Goose Island, Bourbon County, you're going to get a huge heavy beer, but there's a thickness to this that I usually don't get with Goose Island stats. So you're saying this is thicker than normal? Sorry. I think so. Yeah.
00:05:06
Speaker
No, I think it was saying is it's thicker than normal. Like if you drink a, like if Goose Island just released a stout, it wouldn't be up that alley. But I feel like, so this is an imperial stout. I don't want to say that it's like the base of Bourbon County, but like, excuse me, it's along that line of Bourbon County.
00:05:30
Speaker
you know, the thickness of a Bourbon County is there, but it's not the, you know, you don't get the barrel, because obviously it's not barrel leech, but I feel like, you know, like he was saying, it's like, it's not a Goose Island normal beer, but I feel like it's maybe a Bourbon County-ish, maybe that recipe was played into this a little bit. I will say that I agree with both of you, if that makes sense.
Deep Dive into Beer Flavors and Balance
00:05:54
Speaker
I feel like there's a little, I feel like it's a nice collaboration. The phase three beers that I have had,
00:06:00
Speaker
have all been IPAs. And I mean, actually, some of my favorite phase three beers have been there. I don't know if they pronounce it cream or crema or whatever. They do the hops and a little bit of vanilla. And they've had some of their
00:06:18
Speaker
Oh, man, what they have some fruited, like, IPAs Chantilly, their Chantilly series is also good. Those are those are we I mean, I'm surprised we haven't had those on the show yet, which I'm sure we will at some point. But a lot of their double IPAs and hazy IPAs I've had have been very good. So I don't know what to say as far as stouts are concerned for them. But I think both of you are right where
00:06:43
Speaker
Maybe it's leaning more towards a phase three thing. Like you said, Clark made it's a little thicker than we're used to, but also Brandon, you had said there's that idea of maybe like, it reminds you of Bourbon County base. And I'm thinking maybe that's maybe because of knowing that Goose Island's involved, maybe? I don't know. I'm not trying to say like, that's, you know, that's why for me, I like the,
00:07:10
Speaker
I'm surprised how much bitterness I'm getting from this, from being such a big imperial stout. It's really nice. I was really expecting something kind of sweet and sugary. There is a nice sweetness to it, but there is this bitterness that I don't know if it's from the balance of the chocolate and the hops, whatever.
00:07:34
Speaker
It leaves like a dark cocoa taste in my mouth. Like I just bit almost into like baker's chocolate. So you have like sweetness from, I'm gonna sip one more time.
00:07:50
Speaker
I had to make that noise because anytime I hear myself sip when I edit, I'm so grossed out by it. So it's the sweet from the sugar, the cocoa nibs, that just gives off the chocolate, whatever roasting, it's not like a super roasty beer, it is like a rich,
00:08:11
Speaker
baker's dark chocolate cocoa with a really nice hint of strawberry. I mean really like the bitterness that's sitting on my tongue is like I had some like 90% dark cocoa chocolate.
00:08:26
Speaker
Yeah, and the thing I like about the strawberry, and I feel like Tony, or maybe I'm thinking to someone else, you don't love chocolate and strawberry things? It's me, yes. Yeah, okay. I hate it. I like this, and the strawberry's not. Me too. Doesn't taste like fake strawberry. It tastes like real, like they took some real strawberries. I don't know if that's true, but that's what it tastes like at least, which really helps us out. It says strawberry flavor added, so I don't think they use real strawberries. Yeah, you're right. It is the right amount of,
00:08:56
Speaker
You can tell it's there. I don't think anybody would take a sip of that, whether you like big stouts like this or not, and be like, oh, I don't taste the strawberry. I think everybody would taste the strawberry. But it's not like, oh, shit, here's a whole bunch of strawberry. It is definitely that little bit of sweetness, that little bite of dark chocolate, and then this really nice
00:09:17
Speaker
back end of this strawberry flavor. That's what's kind of lingering in my mouth right now. Like, you know, it's it's that strawberry. I like it. I actually. I like this a lot. Yeah, this is, oh, dare I say, dare I fucking say. In the running. Oh boy. For my list.
00:09:42
Speaker
of Maltese 2021. We've got two designers. Oh shit, Brandon, you're the best. I was really excited about this beer when you grabbed this and we'd all talked about it. I was really excited about trying it.
Considering Maltese 2021 List
00:10:05
Speaker
I didn't think this was going to be as
00:10:09
Speaker
good as it is. Me personally, I feel like if anybody who's like a baker or a pastry chef
00:10:20
Speaker
This would be a great beer to give them and be like, look, here's something that really incorporates like real flavors of stuff that you would find while you're baking. This is like, uh, tastes like stuff. Yeah. Get Alex. Bring them into the fold and be like, like the smell of it too. It's like, it's like chocolate covered straw. I mean, not chocolate for strawberries, but it really does smell like that Neapolitan ice cream. No, I, I get that. Yeah. I'm there.
00:10:49
Speaker
I think maybe I like it so much because it's not what I expected. I don't know what I expected. I was expecting something a little bit sweeter, but I really love that bitter dark chocolate I'm getting from this, like the baker's chocolate. Yeah, this entire thing just plays really well. And again, I'm in the camp with you thinking like, I just thought it was gonna be over the top sweet and like one and done, and I'm like,
00:11:15
Speaker
I could drink this throughout the night and then I'd want another one. If I drank one of these on my own, if the three of us are sitting around, we cracked one of these open, I wouldn't be opposed to cracking open another one to share.
00:11:34
Speaker
Yeah, 11 and a half. Well, 11 and a half, yes, that's, you know, up there. It's not 15, 14 and a half. Right. But it's definitely enough.
Speculations on Brewing Collaboration
00:11:44
Speaker
But you know, it's the flavor on it is so good. I want to keep wanting to go back for more, but I don't want to overdo it so damn fast. Brandon, you haven't had the other half of this. Have you yet? If you're a bird? I have not. Okay. Well, we're gonna need a whole report on that whenever it happens. Did you buy that one too?
00:12:04
Speaker
I did. Oh, awesome. Yeah. We got to know what it's like then. Yeah. No, I'd love to hear. Yeah. My idiot self didn't have my credit card ready on the, uh, was it Osner app? Osner. Yep. Osner. And I had it. I was in the checkout and they were like, Oh, you need to enter your credit card information. And then you're like, don't tell me 14 seconds later. Whoops. And then Brandon to the rescue, at least with this one. So yeah. Oh yeah.
00:12:32
Speaker
That being said, I do have that and we will all be vaccinated soon and we can all sit down and enjoy that. Fantastic because I think between the three of us, we all have a handful of beers that we would like to share with each other. Dare we make that a podcast or do we just make it something for ourselves? I think we make everything, all of the above.
00:12:59
Speaker
Let us just drink for once, god damn it. Yeah. Yeah. I just love talking about these beers. And then talk about it as if we were on a podcast. Yeah. Right, right, right. Perfect. No, I do. I do. I mean, we all have a handful of beers. But yeah, no.
00:13:14
Speaker
this. I'm I keep gushing about this. And I can't say enough about it. Yeah, I'm blown away at like how, like, just based on the description, how all of that comes through.
00:13:29
Speaker
And it is a thick beer, a easy drinking beer. And like, it makes me want to just keep drinking it. Like, most stouts like that, I'm just like, yeah, I have a sip or two. And I'm like, okay, that's enough. But yeah, wrap it up. And that's it. It's sweet, but it has all that flavor. And I'm like, all right, I just want to keep going back like
00:13:49
Speaker
Yeah, I'm wondering if, I don't know this for sure, but I assume Bourbon County, I don't know if all of it's brewed here and then put in the barrels once it gets back to Chicago. But I feel like this was probably brewed and everything was done in Chicago or having phase three. Oh, yeah. But maybe that's why it's tasting a little different than the, I assume Bourbon County is a bit more broader as far as where it's brewed.
00:14:17
Speaker
Yeah, phase three is local and I'm 90% sure. I think they did it all in-house with Goose. Yeah, I think that makes the most sense to have phase three come up to Goose Island to be like, hey, let's do this beer. And could be wrong. Maybe the phase three one is done at phase three.
Ingredients and Appeal to Bakers
00:14:37
Speaker
You know what I mean?
00:14:38
Speaker
So just kind of like connecting the dots. So phase three has been around for, I think about a year, maybe almost a year and a half. So the brewer, the owner operator, at least two years, owner operator of phase three is the original brewer from more brewing.
00:14:59
Speaker
So when Moore opened up and they were doing amazing things, I know, I don't know his last name, but Sean is the... Burns, yes. Sean Burns, yes. So I'll have to, we have a lot of mutual friends in common, so I'll have to reach out to him to kind of...
00:15:16
Speaker
touch base with him. But yeah, so Sean kind of went off on his own and started phase three. So this has been his venture. You know, and he's doing fine things. I say that's for sure. No, like phase three, every time I see a phase three beer, I am it's much like, you know, Clark, you and I talk about hot butcher. When you know, new hot butcher comes out, we're like,
00:15:40
Speaker
Gotta get it, gotta get it, baby. I feel the same about phase three when I see it. I've stepped back from wanting to do that all the time and now I just, every now and then I'll grab some. But to this actual beer, I'm swirling around in my glass. This is, it's the one thing Brandon that you and I are missing from our Imperial Stout is that I love like the tan dark head on this beer.
00:16:06
Speaker
You know, it's like I'm swirling around a glass of Coca-Cola, if you will. Because all those times you take a glass of Coca-Cola and you swirl it around, it's darker than that. But the bubbles are, it's funny because the bubbles are almost that big, like what's on my glass. But it's not like a huge carbonated beer. Yeah. That's just something that I find fascinating. But I love the head color on it.
00:16:36
Speaker
And for it being as thick as it is, and you would think that, you know, having those flavors, you, I guess I'm just so, I've gotten so used to like pastry stouts, not having, when I see those things, it'd be a pastry stout. This is not a pastry stout. This is like I was saying, you know, give this to a baker and be like, Hey, tell me what you taste. And I guarantee you, they tell you Baker's chocolate, strawberry, and maybe a little vanilla. Yeah.
00:17:01
Speaker
This is sort of reminding me of Maple Woods cuppa series in a way. Sort of the same feel all of the above kind of, you know, obviously without the barrel aging. Well, not all their cuppas are barrel aged, but I think they had a Neapolitan last summer that I had. I've only had non barrel aged cuppa from
00:17:27
Speaker
I missed that. That was the ones you're thinking I missed. Same ilk, if you will, which I love, all of them. I don't want to say pleasantly surprised with this, but very much enjoying it. I think it exceeded our expectations of what we were expecting from this beer. That's for sure. They just released, I think, a double IPA today.
00:17:52
Speaker
on that same app, and I was very tempted to do it, but I gotta hold back, gotta hold back. Who released that beer? Goose Island did. Goose. Goose. Yeah, I know, right? Goose Island. I would tell you what it was, but my, oh, there it goes. What's it called? It's called Turbo Juice. Oh, I saw that, yeah. Double Dry Hopped Hazy IPA Double. I am in love with this beer. I am.
Appreciating Phase 3's Contribution
00:18:21
Speaker
Smitten absolutely love it. I would drink the hell out of this whenever it's available
00:18:26
Speaker
Well, luckily, Brandon bought, what, 10 two packs for all of us to share? Yeah, a whole bunch of two packs, right? Three two packs. Cool, cool, cool. Great, great, great, great, cool, great, great. I really am sad that even though how much beer I've drank tonight, I don't need more of this, but boy, I wish there was more. No, Tony, I'm with you as far as an early runner for Maltese, the Maltese list. I'm with you.
00:18:51
Speaker
Yeah, I think it makes it just- So far, so far. Yeah, so far. We'll see. We'll see what's going on. I'm so glad that we have Clark taking notes about all of this stuff. Yeah,
Show Wrap-Up and Humor
00:19:02
Speaker
Clark, you're taking notes for our multis, right? Yeah, you see me typing? Yeah. You're not typing. Tippy toe, tippy, tippy, tippy, tippy toe. You're not typing, you're just moving your hands up and down and saying, tip, tip, tip, tip, tippy toe, tip, tip, tippy toe. Oh no, that's the sound my keyboard makes.
00:19:23
Speaker
You're fired. That's a fucking lie. Right on top of that Rose. Yeah, right on top of getting fired. All right. See what happens when you get me on an after the final four. The worst. Start the fucking music, Brandon. Let's get the hell out of here. This is the worst ever.
00:20:05
Speaker
Top tier doggy. Top tier doggies. One more time. If you're a birdie, I'm not a birdie. This is good running for a birdie.
00:20:37
Speaker
When life gives you an empty cup. Cup. Cup. Just crack a smile and fill it up. Fill it up. Top tier birdie. Top tier birdie.