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Episode 97: The Urge To Get Hit By A Car
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This week Garrett and Derrick are back talking Marty Scurll, AEW, Ring of Honor, GCW Take a Picture, cheerleading, cats and more!
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Transition to New Podcast Name
00:00:36
Speaker
Hey, everybody, welcome to Predetermined. I don't know what to say after that, goddamn. Were you not ready to do that intro again? No, I was totally unprepared. In my head, because I didn't have to do it last week. I've only done it one time. That's true. We're just in the show now. I missed it. We'll get to it next week. We're going to address the fact that it's a difficult transition than the new name of the podcast. It doesn't feel right.
00:01:06
Speaker
Well, it was a mutual decision, but you definitely went along with it when we decided to do it. Yeah, but now that I'm living in it, I don't know how I feel. I feel like I've left a pet behind. I think we'll survive just fine. We haven't had any negative feedback about the name change already, have we?
00:01:27
Speaker
Not that I know of I don't think anyone noticed it's gonna take some time Garrett. It's like a new haircut It's like a fresh coat of bushy somebody's gonna look at you and say is something different It has been It has been exciting for me the last couple days at the thought of getting back into this again
All Out Weekend Recap
00:01:54
Speaker
Did you get any feedback about last week's Lost episode that we released from All Out Weekend? I think people enjoyed it. And I enjoyed the shit out of listening back to it. I had forgotten a lot of the stuff we had talked about. Yeah, you were sending me texts while you were editing saying that there was some funny stuff in there that you forgot about. I forgot that it was really us drinking all of those White Claws before we went to GCW. So there were times that you mentioned
00:02:22
Speaker
You're like, man, yeah, we're gonna see Jerry Lawler tonight, and that really set the stage for how fucking excited you were gonna be later about seeing Jerry Lawler. Was it a little bit like unearthing a time capsule a little bit? It was, it was, you know, I hadn't had a man thrown on me yet. Fuck, what else had happened? A lot had not happened yet, but mostly you and that Scottish guy who smashed those Mike's Hard Lemonades hadn't become best friends yet.
00:02:49
Speaker
You know, what's funny is when that picture got released by Mance Warner that we are prominently featured in, I had just kind of assumed we were going to lose that redheaded Scottish guy to history. I thought he was gone. And I thought that like in 10 years we were going to talk about what we were going to completely reimagine how he looked. It was going to be distorted. That's immortalized now. Like we can go back to that. And that picture is is should be like fucking put on a canvas.
00:03:19
Speaker
I mean, that is right up there with the creation of Kevin as artwork, as far as that picture of us with Mance Warner, is he on my lap? It's funny that you brought up that picture. Why? Because I had to get a new phone recently, I broke mine, and when I had to load all my old information, apparently on my last phone, the last picture I had on it, or the first picture I had, the last time I updated the memory, was that picture, the creation of Kevin.
00:03:51
Speaker
And it took me a long time to change it. That was hard to part with. That's a good picture. One of my biggest regrets is not buying that poster when WWE made that available.
Travel Mishaps and Wrestling Commitment
00:04:05
Speaker
We've got a lot of stuff to dive into this week. You have a tale of heartbreak to share, failed wrestling trip.
00:04:15
Speaker
that that is considering all the things we've been through over the last few months and like that really is the mom to me out. Oh well it's minor but it was a bummer to once again be like man he didn't make it to AWW in Nashville and then I guess the story here if you want to lead off with this you were supposed to be making a trip to GCW in an Austin right. Yeah.
00:04:39
Speaker
Yeah, the airport fucked me. What the fuck happened? It just kept getting delayed, Derek. It just kept getting delayed. That's it. There's really not a whole lot to it, but I got to hang out at the airport for three hours and not get to go to Austin.
00:04:57
Speaker
You tried. Oh, I tried. I could honestly, it could have happened, but it would have involved me having to leave at like three o'clock the next day and then not get there until midnight because of weird connections. I would have been in Austin for less than 24 hours. It just became not worth it.
00:05:17
Speaker
So your flight gets delayed. Your next opportunity is in an inconvenient time. And so you cancel the trip because who wants to make that trip and then just have the stress of like kind of essentially losing sleep.
00:05:29
Speaker
to make this happen, and then the trip's short anyway. But you ended up watching the show, right? Oh, fuck yeah, I watched the show. At this point, GCW is like the wrestling show I don't miss a show of. They need to start some sort of package where I can just have them all for one price for the year, because that would be more convenient for me. A GCW season package? A season pass.
00:05:54
Speaker
just take it all up front like Ring of Honor did, and then if you get shitty, I can't do anything about it.
GCW's Unexpected Rise
00:06:01
Speaker
You know, you had sent me a text earlier while we were watching dynamite tonight and I had responded back to you. I was like, it's been a wild year, a couple of years for pro wrestling. Go back about a year, year and a half. Would you ever have guessed that GCW would be your number one brand? And that's with AEW debuting in that timeframe. So.
00:06:28
Speaker
Yeah, that's, it's wild. Like this was especially take us back to that first show, which is now available on IWTV, independentwrestling.tv. You can see Derek and I getting a little blood on us in the untouchables. Can you also see somebody get thrown onto you on this same network? Yes, you can.
00:06:52
Speaker
I like that we're trying to sell this, this fucking feature to somebody with, Hey, we're on there twice. Use offer code WTF to save 10%. Is that true? No. Use offer code predetermined and nothing happens, but you can go pay money. They're going to see that you put that in there and wonder why you did that. Maybe they'll find us. Uh,
00:07:22
Speaker
Well, I'm sorry you didn't get to go to the show and see it live in person, but what did you think of watching it? So what did I miss? Oh, man. You missed a hell of a promo alley cat cut on Nick Gage, but that they aired it on the pay-per-view, but it was actually, you know, a pre-cut video and everything they had released that morning. And she's talking about how she's not the same cat that you knew a couple of years ago. And oh, my God, at one point she says,
00:07:50
Speaker
in Austin, my hometown, I'm gonna make Nick Gage pet my fucking belly. Wow. And I got so pumped for that match that I was just all day long, I was whistlin', I was snappin', I was...
00:08:11
Speaker
A good wrestling promo puts Garrett in a very nice mood. I love a good wrestling promo, especially one that's leading up to me being in the front row and I'm like, there's probably gonna be some glass. I'm just gonna go watch GCW. Didn't happen. The match though, you can't really talk about it without first talking about Ricky Shane Page versus Mance Warner.
00:08:34
Speaker
What's the deal with Ricky-Shane Page these days? He's the champ! He is still- Well I knew that! But remember how Nick Gage would defend the title pretty much every time? Like the John Cena open challenge? Yeah, is he the exact opposite? Yeah, Ricky-Shane Page isn't giving title shots to just anybody. That includes Mance Warner. So there was no title on the line.
00:08:56
Speaker
I bet that got some massive heel heat. Oh, they love Mance Warner over there. Plus, he has Gregory Iron running around being a dick.
00:09:06
Speaker
I could be wrong, but I'm
GCW Title Defense: RSP vs. Nick Gage
00:09:08
Speaker
pretty sure Mance Warner right now is the champion in AAW. Are you seriously? Did they unmask him and it's finally Mance Warner or is he still? No, he's Mance Warner. He's just full fledged Mance Warner here. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I saw in the last couple of weeks that he's the man over there. That makes me really excited. That actually makes me want to get up there and go to a show.
00:09:34
Speaker
So here's the deal. Like I said, I've been out of the loop, been dealing with some things of my own in the last week. So maybe one of our listeners can actually update me on what's actually going on at AAW. But I'm pretty sure that's the case, Garrett. Which one of the many apps can I watch that one on? I think I have to do it on like high spots. I don't have that one anymore.
00:10:00
Speaker
That's not on IWTV? I don't think so. I think AAW is too fancy for that one. Too fancy? You're telling me that the indies have multiple networks now? Yeah. There's options? Well like PWGs over on high spots and to me that's like you don't get much fancier than that.
00:10:24
Speaker
Anyways, Ricky-Shane-Page-Mance-Warner, not for the title, because RSP is a piece of shit. Oh, he fucking ends up beating him, but he just fucking beats him. Which one? Which one, Garrett? Who beat two? I like that was self-criticism while we're rolling.
00:10:46
Speaker
Use your words. So Ricky-Shane Page does end up beating Mance Warner because of some fuckery with Gregory Iron. They end up bringing some glass out. Nick Gage's music hits. He comes out, puts fucking Gregory Iron through some glass, sends Ricky-Shane Page running away. And now the Ally Cap match has to start and the ring's already covered in glass. Knowing Ally.
00:11:12
Speaker
Well, I guess not knowing, Allie. But you've met her several times. Do you feel like you have, um... Are you scared for her? No, like she said in that promo, she's a different kitty cat than we saw a couple years ago and she seems to have just lost her mind and wants to deathmatch now and... Hey!
00:11:32
Speaker
I'm here for it. Let's do it. You're saying she's a tabby? No. What is that supposed to mean? Kind of cat. Calico. Jellicle cats? Jellicle cats. Did we talk about cats on here last time? We didn't, but we're about to, right? Holy shit, man.
00:11:51
Speaker
Holy shit. What do you know about this thing? I just know that it's like one
Cinematic Catastrophe: Watching 'Cats'
00:11:58
Speaker
of the most panned films of all time in a box office disaster and at one point I read something where they were offering like free tickets to get people to go.
00:12:07
Speaker
Well, the nicest thing I can say about it is that I have thought about it every single day since I've seen it, and that was... I think I saw it on New Year's Day. There are people who have been victims to horrible crimes who think about it every day, so that's not necessarily a compliment, Garrett. Well, okay. I don't like that they made cats sexy.
00:12:34
Speaker
Like, I didn't... After I got home, I felt uncomfortable around my own cats. Because... You felt like you brought it home with you? Yeah, this... I mean, this movie... Did we really not talk about this on the first episode back? If we did, I forgot about it. It's been... It's been... It's been a few days. Goddamn. Yeah, that movie was just fucking moist. Like, everybody was moist. Everybody was thirsty, I think they say.
00:13:01
Speaker
When you say thirsty for cum, DTS. Sorry, I didn't mean to be so blunt and crass there, but, you know, we're talking about cats here. And this is a movie where you just keep meeting cats and they sing you about a six minute song about themself and then you meet another cat.
00:13:21
Speaker
They all have people hands. Ian McKellen slurps milk out of a bowl like a... I swear to god we talked about this, unless I've just been thinking about it so much that it's consumed my brain. Garrett, I don't remember talking about cats. I don't feel like I've had a conversation about it with anybody.
00:13:41
Speaker
Well, I'm so happy that I got to let some of that out because I had to give a couple of tightest cat ass awards. To replace the Sophie's that we didn't do. Yeah, we forgot to do the Sophie's this year. So the award for tightest cat ass goes to Idris Elba because he was fresh off the set of Hobbs and Shaw and he was tight as that cat. He had fucking abs.
00:14:07
Speaker
Listen to the predetermined podcast where we pause a review of a GCW match to let you know our thoughts on the film adaptation of the classic musical cats. Classic is a, I would not call this one a banger, but I would say watch it inebriated. You described the cats as moist. They, yeah.
00:14:31
Speaker
It's a very divisive word and the people who like it are weird. That's the perfect word to describe that movie. So my question to you is based on what you watched on this GCW pay-per-view. Are you upset that you weren't there? What ended up happening with Allie? Get to getting. Her mom was sitting ringside.
00:14:57
Speaker
Ali's mom was sitting ringside, and at one
Nick Gage vs. Ally Cat Match Dynamics
00:15:00
Speaker
point, she got in an argument with Nick Gage, and Nick Gage, what did he say? He said, I'm going to end her, you fucking bitch, or something along those lines. He called Ali Cat's mom a bitch to her face, and that felt rude.
00:15:16
Speaker
Now that you've had multiple experiences with Mr. Gage, you know that he's like a gentleman behind the scenes. Does it warm the cockles of your heart knowing that he probably was very nice to Mrs. Cat before? Yeah, they probably went out to dinner and he's like, now is it okay if I call you a bitch? I mean, because if it's not, I won't do it.
00:15:43
Speaker
The MDK, we may be a gang, but we ain't rude. I don't know if that's true. He damn near broke my fucking shoulder. Or my arm or whatever the hell he grabbed onto. That is your fault for not working out more and sitting front row at GCW.
00:16:02
Speaker
I feel like the only reason you're trying to validate that almost happening to me is because I made somebody get thrown onto you. It's true. Like, are you secretly trying to tell me that you didn't want that to happen?
00:16:14
Speaker
No, I've always wanted that to happen. I hope that happens everywhere I go, and it never does. Kind of like, I have a secret desire to get hit by a car a little bit, just a little bit, and like rolled up onto the hood. Not like 55, you're talking like 20, right? Like, like I'm walking around the corner of a drive-through and the car pops me up onto the hood like in an action movie, because you can say whatever you want to that person afterwards. And they're all, they're already in an apologetic mode. Because they just hit you with a car.
00:16:44
Speaker
except some people are actually crazy, like, dude, watch where the fuck you're going. We were talking about this alley cap match. I feel like it's been a while since we've had a real good rant in the middle of a WrestleTalk. Tangent city, bitch. But no, the worst thing that happened in this match by far was Nick Gage took what was either a screwdriver or an ice pick. It was hard to see the tip of it, but he put it- What's scarier to you? Ice pick.
00:17:14
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That's the right answer. Yeah, it's sharper on the end, but he put it in her head and he started twisting it in the camera and even commentary said, ooh, smart, smart videos trying to get us a band from fight TV right now. Cause the camera was so close to him digging into her head and then picking up glass and digging it in. He went to four corners. Her mom's crying. She took a one winged angel. She looked badass on this match.
00:17:41
Speaker
She didn't go over, Nick Gage looked like a dick, and uh, what the fuck? The crowd was even cheering against Nick Gage, which does not happen often at GCW. Is this a Nick Gage heel turn? I don't think it's a heel turn. I think that he realized I'm fighting a real violent match against a lady in her hometown. I'm probably going to look like an asshole on this one. Let's try to make it memorable, Nick.
00:18:10
Speaker
He wouldn't scratch her belly, but he did shake her hand at the end. So it was, there was respect and it looks like Ali Cat's actually going to be on another show coming up, I think in Detroit. So it's excited to see more Ali Cat, but I really love this story between Ricky Shane Page and Nick Gage going on right now. Do you feel weird? Like,
00:18:31
Speaker
You were at the show where Nick Gage lost the title to AJ Grey, and then he lost the title to Ricky Shane Page. Does it feel weird that he's essentially got tossed aside in the middle of all of this? I guess it serves its purpose for the story, but is it weird that it wasn't RSP that ended Gage's title reign?
00:18:50
Speaker
I think that makes sense because he's being such a chicken shit heel about everything. He didn't put his title up against Mance Warner. He is like, you know, cheating. He's being a miss. He's being a real miss about it. And it's going to feel real good when Nick Gage beats the shit out of Ricky Shane miss. So.
00:19:15
Speaker
I just want to go on and reconsider. I'm concerned for Alliecat. Maybe you don't give a shit, but she was a real nice lady to us. And I just feel bad that Nickage rammed an ice pick into her face, probably disfigured her a little bit.
00:19:33
Speaker
Derek, some of us, when we get a taste of this specific flavor of wrestling ice cream, get a little itch. And I think she got a taste for the deathmatch flavored ice cream. The fucking adrenaline, I'm sure, is intense. I can only imagine. It's almost like if somebody gets the urge to get hit by a car.
00:20:03
Speaker
Before we end talking about this show, I do want to bring up Jimmy Lloyd took on Matthew Justice and they ended up breaking all the chairs. I think the main thing that I really missed out on is they had a call for chairs and way too many chairs came. You know how that happens sometimes at wrestling shows?
00:20:24
Speaker
Yeah, that's like an old ECW thing, isn't it? Where like 50 chairs come in? Yeah. And then they just started breaking these chairs. And then eventually the guy who actually runs GCW got on commentary to say how pissed off he was because the chairs were rentals and cost $25 a piece. Well, there goes the house gate. So they're just like, well, there's $100 worth of chairs right there. Here's another one.
00:20:51
Speaker
They said they were gonna be, oh, so this is a funny thing. A guy that I knew from LA, turns out he was in Austin for the same show. He blocked my view the entire time. He was sitting with his back to hard cam, and they even brought him up in commentary. They said in this drunken fan in the green hat that just doesn't seem to stay out of center frame,
00:21:16
Speaker
Is this the guy who booed Melter? No, no, no, no, no. This was a different guy altogether. But he did keep standing up to slap the ring and stood up to yell at wrestlers a lot. I don't know if he knew hard cam was behind him and it was ruining the view for all of us at home.
00:21:35
Speaker
but you text him and bitch him out. I didn't have his number. I guess I could have messaged him on Facebook and been like, dude, you got to sit the fuck down. I paid $13. That would be so funny to get like a Facebook message from somebody you haven't talked to in a little while. And they're like, dude, I could see you at the wrestling show. Sit the fuck down. You're ruining it for hundreds of people. And I'm not saying don't take pictures and video, but like I'm watching this through. It felt like I was behind him at a movie. And I'm just like, get the fuck. What the fuck?
00:22:04
Speaker
And as somebody who's known you for multiple decades, I know what a pet peeve that is for you. You have seen me get into conflicts at movie theaters. Many have. So I have something I want to bring up and it's going to segue into a new segment for us on the predetermined podcast.
00:22:26
Speaker
I watch a lot of different forms of entertainment. I watch a lot of sports, movies, various TV shows. I will tell you this, Garrett, there's only one that so frequently uses the phrase, the drizzling shits, and that is professional wrestling.
Marty Skirrell Stays in ROH: A Surprising Decision?
00:22:46
Speaker
It's been used by people who critique it, by people in it.
00:22:51
Speaker
And that's why the new name of our newest segment, I guess, we're kind of resurrecting an old segment is called say something nice and the drizzling shits. Dude, does that mean I have to go first? Well.
00:23:08
Speaker
I don't know. The idea of this segment, for those who are long time listeners of the podcast, they will remember that years back... Is it weird that we can officially say that? We can say because that was multiple years at this point. It was. How quickly did we give up on that?
00:23:25
Speaker
when we ran out of people to say something nice about? I think there was a point where I felt like we kept wanting to come back to the same people because the whole idea of the segment, the name of the segment was Say Something Nice, and we did it for a while. And the idea was you had to pick somebody that you begrudgingly don't want to give a compliment to and pay them a compliment. So I think after a while I had brought up Gender Mahal, Triple H, and Goldberg, and then I got backed into a corner.
00:23:54
Speaker
And we stopped doing the segment at some point. I don't know when. But we're resurrecting it. And we're putting a new twist on it. And that's why the segment's called Say Something Nice in the Drizzling Shits, which is also the name of my new band that will be performing at Warped Tour. Ooh. Yeah. Nah, just kidding. Yeah, because Warped Tour is dead, there's no more Warped Tour. Yes. Yes. Don't cheer that. I'm sure a lot of our listeners had a lot of fun at a Warped Tour here and there.
00:24:26
Speaker
the idea of the resurrection of this segment instead of every week us us both being forced to say something nice we're going to do a twist on it and every week one of us is going to say something nice and one of us is going to shit on somebody or something and that's why it's called the drizzling shits and this week since we're redebuting the segment Garrett
00:24:49
Speaker
I'll be Mr. Negative, you can be the positive guy. I'm sure you have something nice to say. You've been away from pro wrestling for a while. Pay a compliment. Be kind. Be sweet. Be tender. I feel like Ring of Honor's got something up their sleeves right now. Ring of Honor's got something up their sleeves? I think they've probably got a good thing going. I don't know what it is yet, but I'm getting a good feeling about Ring of Honor right now.
00:25:18
Speaker
I feel like just a couple weeks ago what you were trying to tell me was you didn't give a shit about Ring of Honor. But what has changed since then? I know what's changed since then. We'll get into that.
00:25:31
Speaker
But basically what you're saying is people are sleeping on Ring of Honor and you're kind of excited about it? Well, no, I'm saying, well, let's go ahead and say what the news is because we can talk about it. But Marty Skirrell announced that he is not going to go to All Elite Wrestling. He's not going to WWE. He's staying at Ring of Honor, a thing that I don't think any of us thought was a possibility.
00:25:55
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. That's been the news in the last, what is it, last week? It's hard to remember at this point. Everything runs together.
00:26:03
Speaker
Right, but we haven't talked about it on the show yet and it's significant news that we need to address, so yeah. No, I figured Marty, no matter what move he made, it was going to be an upwards move from Ring of Honor. By that I mean he has WWE and he has AEW that would gladly accept his services. Him coming back to Ring of Honor was not something I had considered.
00:26:31
Speaker
Yeah, and I guess the news right now is that he's Head Booker, or not Head Booker, but he's like working as a book and booking what's happening, Derek. What I heard is that he got the position of Head Booker for Ring of Honor. Head?
00:26:45
Speaker
Head Booker, head creative. PCO, you do this. PCO, you get to be champion for 735 days. Book it. Make it happen. Villain Enterprises for life. Oh, I can't wait for him to beat Okada in the main event of this year's whatever Ring of Honor in New Japan do in Florida.
00:27:07
Speaker
that would be fantastic wouldn't it be fantastic if that was one of the agreements that made when they were doing that like Madison Square Garden show was like all right it's mainly new Japan here like that people are excited about so the next show will have whoever's the ring of hunter champion beat any one of their choice on our roster and they come back and they're like guess what pco and okada he's like fuck it I want osprey
00:27:37
Speaker
So the gist here is, you're pretty positive about, you think Ring of Honor's trending up? Yeah, I mean, think about the people. It just seems like they've been building this roster. They've been adding guys like, they've had Cobb for a while now, Roosh, Bandito, and now if Skirrell's gonna stay, and if he's gonna be the one booking, maybe we're gonna get some smaller guys doing flippy shit. Maybe we're gonna get a lot more Lucha Libre. I don't know.
00:28:04
Speaker
I just, I feel better. If they're willing to spend that much money on Marty Skirrell, it seems like they're going to try and do a good job, right? They wouldn't just give him all that money. Or were they just really afraid of losing him? Could it be, could it be, I'm not trying to play devil's advocate with you. I haven't even given my drizzling shits take yet. But WCW threw money at people that they really didn't want to lose.
00:28:30
Speaker
I mean, is that the sign that... I mean, here's the other thing that nobody's really talking about. Why is it just assumed that Marty Skrull's a good booker? Has he been writing Being the Elite this whole time and we didn't know about it?
00:28:50
Speaker
You're like, his favorite movie's secret window with Johnny Depp. You're like, it's fine, but that's not a great story. That doesn't make me trust his decision. I think I watched that for the first time last year, by the way. Okay, that's weird. Sorry. Well, no, it's fine. I mean, John Turturro's in it, you're a fan. Don't fuck with Jesus.
00:29:16
Speaker
Um, Oh, I'm going to give it a chance. And I do think it, it's a, uh, it's a Maverick type move. I'll say that by ring of honor. It's, it's unexpected. Was not anticipating them retaining the services of one Marty squirrel, let alone, uh, giving him that much creative input. That's insane.
00:29:37
Speaker
I think it's a sweet, there's no doubt, sweet deal for Marty, right? He got paid and he gets control over the direction of his character? Yeah, what if he just totally NWOs it, but with villain enterprises? I mean, he's got a place to go if it doesn't work out. I mean, Marty, take the money, sink the company, come hop on our ship. The Jericho ship, the cruise, it's happening right now.
00:30:06
Speaker
So, good a time as any, to give you my drizzling shit's take of the week. This has been a long time coming. Pill Goldberg. No. Now, everyone, go back in the fucking archives. Got a whole episode dedicated to shitting on Bill Goldberg. Enjoy. Let's talk a little AEW.
00:30:32
Speaker
Okay, they've been getting a pass, not by everybody. I know they're new, they're a fledgling brand. They have so many fucking production issues and nonsensical bullshit that pisses me off and I throw my hands up when I see it sometimes. This has nothing to do with the product in the ring.
00:30:57
Speaker
but tonight during dynamite they did the whole you know how like when they go to commercial break they do the picture in a picture thing yeah yeah they're doing the picture in a picture thing where the commercial is now the focus of your of the television screen and yet within the picture in a picture fucking wrestling they throw up a graphic within the picture in a picture advertising a match for later in the night that you can barely see
00:31:28
Speaker
And I'm thinking, first of all, it was absurd that TNT had the balls to like to advertise it as live. It wasn't live. And I'm not complaining about that. I mean, they probably should have, you know, not put that on there, but whatever they have over the weeks.
00:31:46
Speaker
had audio issues, which you've heard people complain about on social media. They've had issues with music at times. Sometimes they like to do the cool video cut where whatever their Titan Tron video is, they like to cut that in to the television feed, but it cuts in at really weird times where nothing happens. So it'll be like, oh, it's Kenny Omega walking through
00:32:13
Speaker
like fucking Tokyo. No, it's just images. I don't know. It's they do stuff like that. And then tonight I just fucking lost it when this was a taped episode of dynamite that they could have edited any way they wanted
AEW Production Critique
00:32:27
Speaker
to. And yet they did picture in a picture. And then within the picture in a picture, they advertised a match for later in the night that you couldn't see because it was so small.
00:32:38
Speaker
AEW, it's gonna take some time. I'm sure they're trying really fucking hard, but the drizzling shits gets awarded to AEW's production because holy fuck, it makes you, you know how many times you've heard me rant about how WWE is overproduced and too bright and everything's too perfect?
00:33:02
Speaker
Well, now I'm being a nitpicky little bitch because now this is a little too shit. Well, I did enjoy, okay, hey, hey, if you want to talk production value, it's having a fireworks show on a boat where it's really windy and you just burn everybody's fucking eyeballs out. Yeah, let's talk about that. That's right in line with the rest of the fucking production.
00:33:26
Speaker
Did you see when Jericho came out during the show tonight? Like he had to squint his eye like Popeye because I think a spark almost went in there. Well, I was surprised. I mean, they have people seated up against that thing. Yeah. Like they're pushed up against it. It's burning their eyebrows off. Like somebody paid for that privilege. It's funny because they easily could. I'm sure they did a test run, right?
00:33:48
Speaker
And they could have been like, ah, it's a little too windy. I think, like, we're on a boat. It would be really bad if one of these banners caught on fire. Not a great idea. Since you said banner, there was a point when Moxley and Pac were fighting out into the crowd and there was a banner for Schlack hanging off the side of one of the rails.
00:34:13
Speaker
You're telling me Schlack got some play on TNT? Schlack's bloodied face with his missing teeth was on my television set tonight on D&T. Ted Turner. I got a lovely fucking text from you because the other, speaking of, I don't know if this counts as a production issue. This was a tape show as I made clear a moment ago. The crowd was swearing and chanting swear words a whole lot.
00:34:41
Speaker
And because of that, they had to bleep it out, but they didn't bleep it, they just muted it. And they did a lot of that throughout the show, which sounded horrible. Well, the crowd was chanting fuck so much that there's no way you could air that. Right. Well, no, I understand. I'm just saying it sounded like shit. It definitely affected the quality of the show when Britt Baker is trying to cut a promo and they have to every three seconds.
00:35:09
Speaker
Cut the audio Yeah, well, I guess you know what then you texted me and you're like those people on that boat have been drinking all day And now they're at a wrestling show. Yeah, they've been watching fuzzy in the afternoon eating pizza drinking beer and then they got to watch like Gabriel and glacis do some stand-up and now they're watching dudes fight a boat pulls up on them fuck that boat I think that's
00:35:34
Speaker
because I think that's the only of the chance that I would have participated in if I had been there. They were chanting, you know, fuck you at another cruise ship. But also, yeah, you mentioned that Britt Baker segment. That was a weird ending. It just ended with JR cutting it off and saying, okay, that's enough. We're going to the commercial break. Don't run down Tony Schiavone. That's mean. There's been so many epic mean things in the history of pro wrestling and that one was just too much.
00:36:02
Speaker
when she ran him down and said he worked at a Starbucks as a barista. That's not the worst thing that's been said about him on TNT, even. Wow. Yeah, I mean, I guess they're doing this thing where they're turning Britt Baker heel. I think it's working for her. But I think I thought we were already at the point where we kind of accepted that she's, you know, jealous of Rio and
00:36:31
Speaker
I don't know, it was weird that they had her, it felt very WWE to have her run down the announcer. Do you know what I mean? We'll get some cheap heat by going after the broadcaster. Yeah, it's a little too cheap. Like rather than go after one of the fellow wrestlers, she went after fucking Tony Schiavone. And Tony Schiavone, did you catch the part where he looked at the camera and said, what the fuck?
00:37:01
Speaker
None of this was scripted. I came in here, she started saying all these mean things to me, and I'm on a goddamn- That's why he never came back after that. Yeah, he's like, fuck it, I'm gonna go watch Gabriel and Glacius, I don't need this shit. So they're gonna be doing the Chris Jericho cruise again next year. I feel like at some point I wanna go.
00:37:22
Speaker
For the experience. Is it going to be another situation? Should you and I go and share a bet on the Jericho cruise? Go to the Bahamas together? As much fun as this probably would be, I know that you and I are going to talk ourselves out of ever doing this because on some weird judgmental level, the idea of you and me being trapped on a massive boat full of sweaty neckbeards doesn't sound pleasant.
00:37:51
Speaker
Don't you want to drink all day on a boat? White Claw Cruise, yes. Claws as far as the eye can see. Just by the end of it, it's like, you said you liked me, claws. Is that a Lighthouse reference? Yeah, it was another Lighthouse reference. That Lighthouse episode. God damn, you love that movie. God, I love that movie.
00:38:19
Speaker
What is it about the lighthouse that stuck with you so much? You have a shirt. You have got a shirt. I don't know. What if what didn't stick for you? There's a mermaid. There's masturbating. There's farting. Listing all of the positive quality.
Luchasaurus's Popularity and AEW's Potential
00:38:38
Speaker
It started with there's a mermaid. Yeah.
00:38:43
Speaker
You said you'd like to meet me last year. Here's something I want to talk about, because we're on the subject of this episode of Dynamite that we just watched tonight. Can we talk about how fucking over-lucasaurus is still? So over. That is not ending at all. People love that guy. Talk about maybe the strike while the iron's hot. Like, this seems like something that they should capitalize on right now. Well, you want him to be the- The capital-lucasaurus isn't getting a title shot.
00:39:14
Speaker
Would you rather see Luchasaurus beat Jericho or Moxley? Luchasaurus. Without question. The crowd would go insane. Absolutely. Isn't that the idea? Not in every wrestling promotion. Garrett, do you see who's the champion over in Ring of Honor? Wait, I mean, give the people what they want.
00:39:41
Speaker
You're not laughing, I think that was a fair comparison. You're telling me fucking Frankenstein over there is perfectly acceptable to you to put fucking giant dinosaurs a little too much? Canadian Frankenstein makes sense. Frankenstein's monster, somebody's gonna point out. The doctor was called Frankenstein. This is, god damn it.
00:40:07
Speaker
So, who is the WWE champ right now? I was just realizing I don't know the two champs. Well, I've been kind of trying to pay attention again in the last few weeks, like I made clear before.
00:40:28
Speaker
Yeah, I'm excited. This is the thing. The Royal Rumble is one of those pay-per-views. You don't have to pay attention the whole year. You can just show up for this one and be excited about it. It's a fun show. It's the best show of the year. CM Punk comes back. You've been watching WWE Backstage because he was back on it this week. No, I've actually, I've still not seen that show. I don't have a cable anymore. I got rid of that The Hulu thing.
00:40:54
Speaker
Well, I will say I watched clips of him on WWE backstage and he looks like a guy who has already checked out. Like he saw the ratings come in, saw that he didn't bump things and is already like kind of pissy about his relationship with the Miz and yeah. Wait, is that a real fight? Is him in the him in the Miz? They're in a fight right now.
00:41:21
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know if that's, if that's real or if it's a work. I thought it was real. Like there's no way WWE signed off on, on him saying suck a blood, money covered Dick events was like, yeah, that's a good idea. Although they are the same company that put Ronda Rousey saying that wrestling isn't real. It's fake and use that for a hype video for their WrestleMania match last year.
00:41:45
Speaker
That's true too, but I could see Vince hearing the blood cover or blood money covered dick or whatever and being like, that's good, write that down.
00:41:57
Speaker
Were you kidding about the CM Punk Royal Rumble thing, or do you think that's gonna happen, or what? I don't know, I don't care. You're especially at that point? No, I will 100% watch the Royal Rumble.
Royal Rumble Speculations
00:42:11
Speaker
If he doesn't come back, it doesn't affect my enjoyment of the entire show. You do know that Brock is entering number one, that's the big thing that they're featuring for this, right? So who are gonna be the first 10 people that just get tossed out real quick?
00:42:26
Speaker
Fuck if I know, I know that Punk on WWE Backstage said he hopes that Keith Lee wins the Royal Rumble. If Keith Lee headlines WrestleMania, Derek. He just went from six to midnight. Wait, who's he fighting? If he won?
00:42:51
Speaker
Well, you asked me who the WWE champion is. It's Brock Lesnar. It's okay. It is. Wait. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So he's just, he's a tough guy. Yeah.
00:43:06
Speaker
So he's going in there showboating. Can you say that in your best Joe Pesci voice? What, does this guy think he's a tough guy? I don't know how to do a Joe Pesci. Work on it. We'll try it again next week. Can you do a Joe Pesci or can you do a dick? I can't. You got a Daniel Stern in you? I feel like a Joe Pesci impersonation is something you could probably nail pretty good. Well, don't spring it on me next time. All right. I'll give it a week of work. But yes, he is being a tough guy.
00:43:36
Speaker
That's not Joe Pesci. I don't know what that was. So what does he get to face himself at WrestleMania if he wins? I mean, theoretically, he can hop over and get the Universal title, I guess. We could get the Fiend versus Brock Lesnar with both titles on the line and some kind of stupid unification match that we definitely don't need. I mean, I will say you have to admit this.
00:44:05
Speaker
No matter how much you can say that you don't give a shit. If Brock is entering number one and he lasts all the way to the end, throwing out like a fuck ton of people and number 30 hits and CM Punk's music hits at number 30. I mean, they're doing this at an MLB stadium.
00:44:26
Speaker
That place will go absolutely fucking ape shit. Where are they at this year? I think it's at Minute Maid Park in Houston. Okay. The home of the scandalous Houston Astros. Ooh. Man, if that Jericho boat crowd was at the Astros stadium, the Astros wouldn't have heard the end of it. Nope. They're not going to hear the end of it anyway.
00:44:51
Speaker
There's gonna be people banging on trash cans throughout that whole show. This is a real thing. I truly have no idea what's going on with the Astros, and I was waiting for you to explain it to me at some point. No joke. Do you want me to explain it to you on the air or after the podcast is over? Well, how boring is it? It's not good content for this show. Wrestling fans aren't gonna give a shit, but I'll tell you after. Okay. I like that everybody else has to Google it. I'm getting the insider scoop.
00:45:21
Speaker
Now they feel left out, now they wanna know. Like, well, tell me about the baseball. Well, fuck you. Get on the Patreon and give him $5 and he'll tell you about the baseball. On our Patreon, we don't give you more wrestling, we give you more us.
00:45:36
Speaker
Hey, you want to hear a story about us in the fourth grade? Well, let me think of one. Five bucks. Well, there was this time that Derek was running through the, do you remember when you were running through that dugout and you tripped and your face was covered in dirt and blood? That's not what happened, but that's almost what happened. All I know is that I saw it happened, happened, not happened. I saw it happen. And then after it happened, you had a hilarious face and I couldn't laugh because you were in a lot of pain.
00:46:05
Speaker
I had a busted open bottom lip for which I still have a scar to this very day and my face was covered in dust and I was injured and you thought it was funny. It was because of the way your eyes were closed and your hands were out. You needed help. I'm glad that me getting hurt is so funny to you. Well, I was a child and that was, hey, and we're watching goddamn wrestling.
00:46:32
Speaker
My feelings are not hurt. I just wanted to let you know. You've been telling me that you thought that was funny and you feel bad about it. But yes, I do feel bad. I feel bad then. I feel bad now. But over on our Patreon, it doesn't exist. You get this and many more stories. Yes. The Royal Rumble. So you're saying that punk came out at number 30. You wouldn't give a shit. No, I think if he came out, I did see that tweet where somebody said if he doesn't come out at 30, this is bullshit or like who even gives a shit.
00:46:59
Speaker
And he's like, well, there goes that I was coming out at 28. I mean, isn't there a lot of, I mean, if we're being serious for a minute, let's entertain the idea. I thought it was dead. I thought this is what pisses me off. After all out weekend, I had multiple tweets that were basically like, can we put the CM punk shit to rest? He's not coming back to wrestling. And then we take a break from the podcast. He comes back in some facet. Then people are like, ah, it's not actual wrestling who gives a shit.
00:47:25
Speaker
And now here we are because he came back a little bit. Now I have to entertain the idea that he might come back full time. To some degree. This is really the most evil thing he could do. Is get in just enough so that we never ever stop talking about him. I don't think that was an accident. And you know I've been saying this for a while.
00:47:49
Speaker
I've been claiming for a while that Phil wants to pretend that he wants nothing to do with wrestling, but he kinda does. He just doesn't wanna admit it.
00:48:01
Speaker
I will let me back up what I was going to say Garrett is as far as the Royal Rumble and Brock Lesnar and CM Punk are concerned there actually is a whole story there if you stop and think about it because the whole idea is that Punk went on Colt Cabana's podcast and said the reason he quit and what he felt like was a failure is because he never got the main event at WrestleMania.
00:48:25
Speaker
A part-timer like Brock Lesnar is kind of what pissed him off that those guys were getting, I don't know, more favorable positions. And Brock's a former UFC guy. Still being managed by Paul Heyman. They could totally do CM Punk versus Brock Lesnar for the WWE Championship in the main event of WrestleMania this year. Would that be something you would like, Derek? Apparently.
00:48:56
Speaker
He'd get his ice cream bar too. And ice cream bars are back. Is he on one? Of course not. But Roman Reigns is? I'm sure he is. Sign me up for two. How much would you pay for a Keith Lee ice cream bar? Ooh, what would you do for a Keith Lee bar?
00:49:17
Speaker
For a Keith Lee bar if you could have one okay, you can put three wrestlers on ice cream Only three which three wrestlers are gonna be on your ice cream bars on the like which three wrestlers do I most want to be? Like like drawn you're walking fucking ice cream bar. You're walking through a grocery store you look over and you see The options for ice cream bars. What are your ideal three where you're like? Oh, well, I'm obviously getting this one
00:49:49
Speaker
Generico, Luchasaurus, and Marco Stunt. Okay. I'm gonna go. You're okay. Had so much like, okay, now that you're done talking, I want to tell you mine. I didn't have one. You didn't have any? I had nothing ready. I was like, well, fuck. How badly do you want Orange Cassidy giving a thumbs up on an ice cream bar? How about the AOP and Slack?
00:50:17
Speaker
Guys with similar builds. Oh my god, what if Schlack is the next recruit into Seth Rollins' fucking little temple of doom? Listen to Michael Cole say he's like, wait, is Michael Cole even around anymore? He's like the lead broadcaster over on Friday Night Smackdown. Guys, take a look at this old video of Schlack at the Foreman Mills outside of Chicago.
00:50:47
Speaker
My god, he's choking him with that bag. My god. My god. I sounded more like a video game than Michael Cole. You did. You sounded like an old pre-recorded video game commentary. My god. My god. Last ride. Last ride. Just over and over again. Wow.
00:51:13
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know if you've heard or not, but Buddy Murphy is now a champion beyond the Cruiserweight division. What does he have? He and Rollins are the tag team champions. What the fuck? Yeah. That's not the reaction I was expecting, but I'll take it. Who did he win those from? Or they win those from? You know, the Viking experience? No, the War Raiders or the Viking Raiders.
00:51:41
Speaker
Those guys were the tag team champions over there.
AEW Tag Team Titles: Omega & Page's Win
00:51:44
Speaker
Yeah, on Monday Night Raw. You're lying. It's been a long time since I've earned that reaction from you. You really need to fill me in because I actually tried to watch Raw last night and it was just Seth Rollins talking and I feel like I'd seen him talk before and so I'd watch something else.
00:52:04
Speaker
Well, I didn't get a chance to watch this week. I just heard, I saw that Brock Lesnar kicked Ricochet in the dick. I saw that there was some Seth Rollins talking and some title winning. And Samoa Joe and Kevin Owens are in the Royal Rumble. And more Bobby Lashley Lana shit. Just hold there for a second.
00:52:26
Speaker
There's a couple things that we've been able to say tonight that we wouldn't have been able to say, what, a year or two ago? For instance, tonight I watched Marco Stunt wrestle Chris Jericho on a boat. Also... Correct! You also said, I believe you told me the sentence, Brock Lesnar kicked Ricochet in the dick? Yes. That sounds like something we would have made up two years ago. No, it legitimately happened.
00:52:53
Speaker
Are you impressed? I'm impressed that Ricochet and Brock Lesnar have met. Yes. This is wild. Anything is possible. You said you were excited for Ring of Honor. You should tune in to Monday Night Raw, baby. I didn't realize that Brock Lesnar was kicking dicks over there. You know I'm there for that. It's been a while since you broke out your Irish Lesnar.
00:53:19
Speaker
Oh man. Once again, I don't think I'm in the right headspace for voices tonight. You're not in the right headspace for some nice impersonations for us?
00:53:30
Speaker
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to put you on the spot. Well, I'm looking up and I'm like, how do you how does Brock Lesnar talk again? Well, I think it's a Minnesota accent. It started for me and you sound like a fucking leprechaun. I'll eat your dog and shine your shoes. Fuck you. I'm a leprechaun. I'm a leprechaun. Yeah. Yeah. The only wrestling podcast with Bob Saget quotes.
00:53:53
Speaker
Hey, I do want to ask you, you sent me a text earlier today with the line, be ready to talk about cheerleaders. Oh shit, I would have forgot. Thank you, Derek. I am here for you. I spent so much of my weekend watching a Netflix reality show about cheerleaders with my wife.
00:54:17
Speaker
What the fuck? All weekend. I think this thing was like eight, like I watched this show for eight hours, Derek. There were that many episodes? They're an hour each. And you were hooked. I was hooked because it turns out everything I thought I knew about cheerleading, throw it out the fucking window. Turns out it's way more like wrestling than I thought.
00:54:40
Speaker
I'm so eager to hear you tie cheerleading into pro wrestling. Go. These people, the shit they are doing to their bodies, this is just like dudes getting women thrown into them and throwing the ladies and everybody's trying to make each other fall but not get hurt.
00:54:59
Speaker
Right. And they're doing this over and over again and just destroying their bodies. And there was at one point they did a move that my wife kind of was like, whoa, holy shit. And I was like, no jokes. Ray Phoenix and Pentagon Jr. do that in a match at PWG. There was literally luchador stuff happening in this cheerleading. Does this make you want to go back and watch Bring It On with Kirsten Dunst?
00:55:24
Speaker
Yes, yes, one, it does. But two, it makes me think that I had, there's another life out there where I could have just been tossing ladies in the air and catching them. I think I would have been okay with that. Did you tell your wife that? Well, no. I mean, I keep my dreams to myself.
00:55:45
Speaker
I think you and I could have thrown some ladies pretty high, Derek. Yeah, I guarantee you we could have thrown some ladies pretty high. We would have done the basket so good. If we had put in the work, Garrett, we could have been AEW tag team champions right now. Derek? That's what we need to talk about. No. There were underdogs in this fancy cheerleading school and it just, you know, it touched my heart and I liked watching the flips.
00:56:12
Speaker
So this is on Netflix? Yes, it's called Cheer. Enjoy, if you will. So if you were a regular predetermined listener, that is an endorsement from your host, Garrett Callender, to go watch a Netflix show about cheerleading. Because it's kind of like pro wrestling. It's kind of like pro wrestling in that people are flipping around. Oh yeah, speaking of tag team champs, Derek, what the fuck? That's what I wanted to say.
00:56:40
Speaker
Gush about Hangman Page a little bit for me. Oh my god, that guy is the best. And like you said, this is a match that I really wish had not been spoiled for me.
00:56:51
Speaker
Yes, unfortunately, the thing about this show being taped is that the internet doesn't give a fuck. And I knew the result of this match. However, I had heard from you that it was a quality match to check out. And so I was excited to tune into AEW Dynamite tonight, even though I knew that Hangman Page and Kenny Omega were gonna beat SCU for the AEW tag titles. However, yes, the match was fantastic. God, this was probably the hardest-hitting match I've seen Kazarian in.
00:57:22
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, everybody looked pretty awesome in it. Everybody. This wasn't a matchup I was necessarily super excited about, but I feel like maybe I should have been because I'm loving the idea of Hangman and Omega as a tag
Hangman Page's Storyline Drift
00:57:36
Speaker
team. Just that buckshot V-trigger, whatever they did last week. Oh my God. Yeah. Are you excited about them as a tag team or are you impressed and excited at the idea of them using
00:57:50
Speaker
them as tag team champions or as a tag team to advance the story with Hangman drifting further and further away from his relationship with the rest of the Elite. Because they're using the tag titles for a storyline. Yes, and it's an exciting storyline that's going to lead into a singles match that I cannot goddamn wait for. I mean, how far down the line, how far are they going to carry this story of Hangman Page being on the outs with the Elite?
00:58:22
Speaker
I don't know I mean I have so many different films because this is this story is playing out really really well down to like you start to feel bad for Kenny because Kenny's trying to reciprocate excitement over them being a good tag team and Hangman just ain't having it. Well in fairness Hangman basically won the tag titles on his own tonight.
00:58:47
Speaker
I don't know if I see it that way Garrett.
00:59:01
Speaker
You did, and you also sent the eggplant emoji. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I did. Yeah. I honestly, I, like you said, I wish I hadn't been, I wish this match hadn't been spoiled for me because I would have, my jaw would have been on the floor. Where would you put it? Would you say, was it as good as like a takeover match or was it? Oh no, I don't think it was that, I think it was a damn good match, but I mean,
00:59:27
Speaker
fucking takeover tag team matches have like 13 false finishes. Like it's exhausting. A good match nonetheless though. Oh damn, obviously yeah. And like we said, them winning those tag titles when there's clearly a relationship that's falling apart is such interesting storytelling.
00:59:54
Speaker
And what do you think? I think I read a rumor that it would possibly be those two versus the Bucks. Revolution? I mean, I guess we have to wait and see, right? Oh my God. That would be basically just watching all the elite fight each other and then getting to see Hangman leave, which I'm already, I'm just booking it in
Cody vs. MJF: Strong Storytelling
01:00:14
Speaker
my head. It's beautiful. It's exactly what people wanted the new Star Wars to be.
01:00:20
Speaker
Speaking of good storytelling, I'm still really digging this MJF Cody thing. They're doing a damn good job of keeping me waiting forever. Tonight, when Cody finally came out to be face-to-face with MJF for an extended period of time, I was craving it pretty hard. I don't know if you wait here, but they're calling you an asshole, Max.
01:00:50
Speaker
and to finally get around that technicality by having the Bucks superkick MJF and then throw him into the pool like it's a fucking WCW spring break like he's a fucking nerd.
01:01:04
Speaker
I turned to my girlfriend while we were watching the show and I said, I know it's intentional. MJF has the douchiest hair I have ever seen. It's like a pompadour, but I don't know what the fuck you call it, but it's not quite a fauxhawk and it's not quite, I don't know, Garrett, what would you call it? I don't know, but it pisses Derek off.
01:01:27
Speaker
It does. It's getting the intent. It's getting heat from from from Derek. You know, it doesn't get heat from Derek. What? Wardlow. No. What doesn't get heat from Derek is you being a fantastic listener and doing us a favor.
01:01:46
Speaker
like hopping over to iTunes, giving us five stars, leaving a kind review, letting us know what you like about the show. And if you do that, as always, you can suggest something for us to talk about on the show and we will do so just for you and give you a shout out. We actually have a new review this week. Oh shit, Garrett.
01:02:05
Speaker
Oh shit, are you prepared to read it? It says all hail Ricky Shane Page. And it is from Strange Dabs. It says in lieu of RSP versus MDK and GCW. God, I love all those letters.
01:02:23
Speaker
The American Association of Alliteration. Let's do that one more time, because that's a beautiful beginning of a sentence. In lieu of RSP versus MDK and GCW, I would love to hear you guys discuss the Ricky Shane page MDK feud, at least in short standing. My last request was the Taipei deathmatch, but that was a while ago. Still listen to your show every episode. Love the world. Keep it up as always. Thanks, guys. Chris. P.S., the Shane back injury is still funny.
01:02:56
Speaker
So we gotta talk some more Ricky-Shane Page, Nick Gage. I really do. I think the two best stories in wrestling that I'm most excited for are Hangman Omega and Ricky-Shane Page versus Nick Gage. What a world. What a world we are living in right now. I mean, I don't know how far they take it. I could see, I don't know. Almost in my mind, Spring Break feels like it should be GCW's WrestleMania.
01:03:24
Speaker
but it really is but it is also kind of their weird like sideshow where you're gonna get a really good match but you're also gonna get some weird shit so excited about my argument is that GCW by its nature is kind of a sideshow
01:03:40
Speaker
I think that's fair.
01:03:59
Speaker
I would encourage you. I know that your, your primary brand is GCW. We like we're, we're spreading our wings a little bit as we get back into this podcast thing. And I have to start, you know, dabbing, dabbling a little bit more in the ROH and new Japan scene. Got to get some more GCW in there, obviously for you. And, uh, but here's the, here's the catch this week. I'm going to have to reactivate my WWE network subscription for the first time in several months.
01:04:29
Speaker
How do you feel? Just weird. Do you feel like PCO when he gets those clamps on his nipples and he comes back to life? I don't know if that's quite how I feel. When I think about reactivating my subscription, I think about it like this. Ten years ago, you had to drop a whole bunch of money on a pay-per-view that you wanted to see.
01:04:52
Speaker
Now, I can reactivate my subscription for $9.99 and cancel it. It's like moments after I resubscribe. Do you see yourself doing that, or do you think that this rumble's gonna be good enough to keep you hooked for a while? We'll see. We will see. I will tell ya, I've been kinda watching NXT again. And that shit is awesome.
01:05:15
Speaker
There is good stuff happening over there. Like the women's division on NXT, stronger than ever. They just added Mercedes Martinez. Absolutely. They added Mercedes Martinez and not that long ago, they added Shotzi Blackheart. Holy shit. I love her so much. They just had that battle royal on, I guess it would have been last week.
01:05:34
Speaker
It was basically every female wrestler I love in the ring at the same time. And you just cannot beat their women's roster. There's no roster to compare to that one. Absolutely. And didn't Bianca Belair end up winning that? She did. It came down to, I want to say, her and Shotzi Blackheart.
01:05:56
Speaker
So that means it's going to be, oh my god, did we even talk about Rhea Ripley finally winning that or did we talk about that forever ago? That might have been something that happened while we were gone. I think that happened like the week before we came back. But yeah, Rhea Ripley defeated Shayna Baszler. Finally!
01:06:17
Speaker
It felt good. It felt good to finally have somebody dethrone her, but also finally seeing Shayna come back out. I feel like I finally like Shayna a little bit more. It's kind of like Nick Gage not having the belt doesn't feel right. Shayna not having the belt doesn't feel right. You just compared Shayna Paisler to Nick Gage. And they're both happy about that.
01:06:45
Speaker
Are you happy? I'm happy. Are you happy? I'm getting there. Oh, shit. Are we still talking about reviews? Are we? I don't know. Where are we talking about? I think we're wrapping up the show. Oh, man. Unless you got anything else to add. Well, no. I mean, it was just it was good having you back. And I'm, you know, I don't necessarily want to end it now, but I also want to keep talking about cheerleading.
01:07:15
Speaker
Man, if this just creates a cheerleading spinoff podcast where you and I just watch all sorts of cheerleading tournaments and gush about it. Derek, when the Navarro Bulldogs took Daytona, you would not believe the bodies that flew through the air that day. There were injuries. There was drama. It's all about Daytona. You'll know. You'll know when you watch. I will tell you, it feels good to be back doing the podcast again.
01:07:45
Speaker
It does. Bad boys for life. Is that our slogan now? No, that's a movie that's in theaters right now. Well, I'm going to tell you, you have things to work on before we come back next week. You have to get our intro down and you have to get all your accents put together. Our intro? Oh, yeah, I got to practice. Welcome to predetermined your favorite weekly pro wrestling hangout.
01:08:12
Speaker
You nailed it. I kinda, yeah, fuck. I'm just gonna copy that and put it there next time. Cause I could not get it.
01:08:20
Speaker
You did good. I'm proud of you. Yeah, that was honestly like to be able to just shoot it out like that. It felt, uh, felt natural. This is gonna make you feel pretty good. I'm currently staring at the poster for two cups stuffed, which I recently hung up in the closet of my room. That does make me very happy. Can you still see the blood on it? Yes, you can still see, uh, G Raver's blood.
01:08:43
Speaker
I forgot that you had a little G-raver on there. Yes. That was from the back of his head when he cracked it on the concrete. No, no, no, that was the armpit blood. I don't know which blood this is, but yes, there is some G-raver blood on my poster, on my wall. Well, we're still hoping he gets better. Yes, absolutely. Well, Derek. Garrett, navigate us out of here, professionally, please.
01:09:09
Speaker
I think Derek already told you to leave us a review. He told you to pay money to that fake Patreon. Just think of all the fun things that we could give as perks on a Patreon.
01:09:22
Speaker
Nudes. Nudes. Hot nudes. No, but follow us on social media. We're at Wrestle Hangout on Twitter. We're at Predetermined Podcast on Instagram. I am at Gartet on social media. Derek is at Halloween Helpin. Predetermined Podcast at gmail.com if you want to send us an email. And yeah, I love you guys. I missed you. I missed you. I missed Derek. I missed everybody. We did it. Tada. Hit our goddamn music.