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200th Episode Celebration with Mass Effect Trivia! || Mass Effect Month image

200th Episode Celebration with Mass Effect Trivia! || Mass Effect Month

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In the year 2022, two podcasters travelled through time to stop the threat of the podcast bots, unaware that it was the beginning of something far bigger. After establishing the PodPack Collective, the Chatsunami podcast and their allies now ready themselves to defend against the podcast promoters that lurk in the darkest depths of the internet.

They called it the greatest alliance in podcasting history.

The communities of the internet call it... MASS EFFECT MONTH.

Welcome to the final episode of Mass Effect Month! To celebrate 200 episodes of Chatsunami, Satsu is joined by fellow PodPack members Luke from the Nerdstalgic podcast, Marie from 2 Girls 1 Reusable Cup and Dan from Casting Views to test their knowledge of the Mass Effect games. Who will win the coveted spot of Mass Effect super fan? What did Luke used to find in his cereal? And WHAT happened to the sea shells?! All this and more in our Season Four finale of Chatsunami!

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Transcript

Introduction and Milestones

00:00:05
Speaker
Welcome to Chatsunami.
00:00:16
Speaker
Hallo everybody and welcome to the finale of Mass Effect Month. My name's Satanami and joining me today, according to my very thorough notes, is none other than the elusive Dan, the future Mrs. Vacarian and Mr. Lookout, he's playing Andromeda. Oh god. Burn! Wait, hold on, I'm getting a call. Hello.
00:00:43
Speaker
Oh, right. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Sorry, guys. I've got the wrong names. So joining us tonight, I swear to goodness, I'm going to fire that assistant. Joining us tonight is none other than the wonderful Dan from Casting Views, the amazing Marie from Two Giddles, One Usable Cup. And last but certainly not least, Luke from the Nerdstalgic podcast. Everybody, welcome to the finale of of Mass Effects Month. How are you all doing?
00:01:08
Speaker
Very good. Although I do actually prefer Lucif Dan, so if you could call me that for the rest of the episode, please. You know, I'm doing fine too, but I am still playing Andromeda. Yeah, and I am married to Gareth. I'm sorry. It is Mrs. Vicarian. You can't fire your assistant over that. I did wonder when I was playing for recently while Gareth had a ring on his finger. I was going to question it, but for you know what? Nah, it's fine. I made an honest alien out of him.
00:01:34
Speaker
I do want to say, listeners, that actually you've got a task on your hand tonight because the pandemonium we've caused before you press record. I said, good luck to keeping us in line tonight. Oh, yeah, I cannot wait for this episode because this is something I was telling to you guys, to the rest of Twitter, to anyone who would really listen. You know, the people passing me in the street, they got in the airfield. So, yeah, not only is this the finale of Mass Effect, but this is also the 200th episode of Chat Tsunami, at least officially, but let's not going to Congratulations on that. Congratulations. Congratulations, buddy. Oh, thank you. And you know what? I couldn't have thought of a better group of podcasters to spend this iconic episode with. So yeah, today we are indeed gonna be going through our
00:02:19
Speaker
very not stress inducing for legal reasons. I'm looking at the Red Panda lawyer, he's waving me down saying do not say stress inducing episode where we are going to be doing our trivia quiz. So long term listeners, you'll know the score by now. These amazing podcasters tonight, they are going to get a set of questions and this time we're going to go through each game. So each game has five questions attached to them. And again, amazing podcasters. I keep saying this so that you don't leave the call.
00:02:50
Speaker
so right my head's big enough as it is i won't get for the door soon So yeah, they have to guess at whether the facts that I'm telling them are true and

Reflections on Mass Effect Month

00:02:58
Speaker
indeed false. But before we get into it, before we get into the meat of this episode, let's look back at this month because it has honestly been an absolute whirlwind of a month. And I'm going to go to look first because you and I did the first episode together. We did Mass Effect and Mass Effect Andromeda, both Absolutely a amazing episode. So what are your, and again, no pressure to say for men. Being first is precious. as It is. No, to be honest, the glaring thing that comes to mind is just being given the chance to talk about Andromeda. I know we all joke about it, but it is a special sort of game. in its way and it's nice to be given a platform where I can talk about it without any ridicule or any sort of negative sort. Somebody's actually given it a chance and is up for talking about it. So I'd say that's my sort of biggest highlight. As we're talking about sort of Mass Effect 1, it started it all. It's the reason we're all here at the end of the day. It's a very special game for us all. How can I explain it it? It was just magical and it was a wonderful time to sit and talk with you and to be able to dissect such an incredible game that started it all. It's the genesis of Mass Effect and I had such a fantastic time with you. And to be honest, not just because Marie and Dan are here, but Marie's episode was hilarious and I couldn't stop laughing all the way through. Those two hours flew by and Dan, what you did, I finished off your episode today with chat too. I couldn't stop laughing when he was on about Space Canada. But honestly, what you've all done and what we've been able to achieve with this massive month has just been incredible. So I think we all deserve a pat on the back. It's been one hell of a journey and thank you for including me. Oh no, absolutely. You've been fantastic throughout and especially putting up with me. Well, not slandering Andromeda, but poking
00:04:31
Speaker
waste while yeah To enjoy something, you've got to be able to poke fun at it. Like I love cat and hat and and I know how bad that is, but you know, I i love it and I'm happy to poke fun at it. And it's one of those with Andromeda. It's the fact of, I know what the game is. I know why it's not widely enjoyed, but I always say to people, at least give it a go, give it a try instead of just being overly horrible and sort of negative to it. So to be given the opportunity to be able to talk about it in a sort of positive light, breaking it down and just being a decent sort of fun conversation when we did have a laugh, because again, we'll all admit Liam is very, very drunk. He's probably one of the most dries of characters next to Jacob. I will say it here. But yeah, it it was absolute joy. So moving it on to you, Marie, because of course you and I broke a Chatsunami record, would you believe, by the three minutes over the previous episode that was the longest. So I was looking back and the longest episode of Chatsunami before this was our, for legal reasons, I'm practicing and preparing here for what I'm about to say here, but it was a Christmas episode where we reviewed two films, Dan knows what I'm talking about. We reviewed two films, Silent Night, Deadly Night and Bone Alone. Yes, it's a dog parody of Home Alone for the love of God. I have to disclaim that all the time. But yeah, your episode and I is indeed the longest so far of Chat Tsunami at a whopping two hours, 13 minutes. And it's just that it was an absolutely incredible episode. But yeah, what are your thoughts on the month? Hang on, we only broke the record by three minutes. Unacceptable.
00:05:58
Speaker
I want a half an hour at least. You're going to have to come back for the Garda special next year. No, I'm just going to like take my time over my answers as long as possible to make this episode the longest Chatsunami episode. If you guys don't have any plans. I don't know.
00:06:13
Speaker
but Overall, the whole month has just been so much fun. I mean, I think I said this in my episode and I rarely get to talk Mass Effect and just having found you guys and not just found you guys bullying Satsu into playing Mass Effect has been just so much fun and just doing this massive collaboration. And I think my favorite part has to be the intro that you and Luke did for the first one. Honestly, so good.
00:06:40
Speaker
I was like in queue because I was like dealing with Portuguese bureaucracy and trying to get something done and done trying to prove that I'm not a criminal and I was just like in the queue laughing my ass off got some strange looks but anyway free promo but overall yeah this has just been such a fun experience And also, thank you. I think you should have had a counter of how many times I said Garris, or just what percentage of that episode was just me talking about Garris. And I think that it was just me holding back, because yes, I could do a whole episode on why that man is the greatest alien in the whole entire galaxy. Well, what you don't know, Marie, is Satsu, Luke, and I have actually got a sweep state going on how many times you said it. And I've got you down for 428. So it feels like we're a third of the way there now.
00:07:23
Speaker
Yeah, I think you've said it that many times. I think you've actually brought him into existence somewhere. Oh, please do. I honestly, i off this is how sad my life is. I sometimes get so sad thinking about that he's not a real person. perfect oh He's somewhere in the galaxy doing his calibrations, not knowing who I am.
00:07:42
Speaker
ah work. All I'm saying is it's the world's to most dangerous drinking game. If you had to drink every time Garris came up, I was like, yeah, better not put that into the ether. No, but tempted to test that out now. Oh, please don't.
00:07:58
Speaker
ah But moving on to you, Dan, and your love of space morphs. I swear to God that is the last time I will ever say that joke. Yeah, of course, you and I wrapped up the trilogy and by doing Mass Effect 3, which I have to say was quite emotionally taxing, I will say. You know, we got through it in the end and yeah, what are your final thoughts on this month? Yeah, it's funny what you said about emotionally taxing because I think there is a bit where you can hear my voice cracking a little bit when we're talking about morning which I didn't think would happen when I was talking as Marie as you alluded to about a computer character, right? But no, I'm just going to echo what the other two have said. Firstly, thank you for letting me be a part of it and also Luke and Marie. It just goes to show when you're hearing people who absolutely love something talking about it because I was listening to both your episodes
00:08:49
Speaker
and I addressed Satsu privately and and said that's not what I would have said about that because we've all got our own experiences of it and just the way you two were talking about it is just great here and I've actually said to Satsu you should do this for the next two years but we rotate the games because I could have chosen any one of the three but I thought I'd choose the third one just because it is the culmination of it and Yeah, it's just great that all these years later, you know, we're still able to talk about it the way we are and there's new people still playing it. And Maria, as you said, it's great to actually have other people to go on about it and not tell you stop going on about that game. I think the rest of the part pack feels that way.
00:09:26
Speaker
It's been a brilliant month and it's incredible to have Connor show that with you guys as well. so Thank you. Personally, it has been probably one of the most ambitious, well, I don't want to say crossovers, but the most ambitious collaboration I've done with other podcasters. And in all honesty, I love the fact that it's a bit of topic that you three especially are very passionate about. And as Mary said, she very much bullied me into these games Dan indoctrinated me and Luke was holding the baseball bat of Mass Effect lore right behind them so you know it has been absolutely fantastic collabing with you guys and honestly if I had to pick a favourite I could not and I'm not just saying that because all three of you are here but I've listened to the first episode, I've listened to the second and third, listened to Andromeda again, all of them are just absolutely fantastic. And yeah, it has just been probably the best theme month so far. Just don't tell my other co-hosts I said that. Don't worry, they won't hear this. Let's go! So just to shout out Satsu for our episode. So I know you talk about the Marie's being the longest, but I just want to say because I don't think we mentioned it on the episode that you were recording an episode for my podcast that week. It was supposed to be the week before, but I canceled it for a number of reasons and you kindly said, all right, let's get it done before we recorded our episode three. And yes, so we were talking about five hours that night, weren't we in total? So it was quite an epic session. So I just want to say thank you as well for being so accommodating because you wanted to let me record my episode first. And yeah, I think that went on for about two hours as well. So the things we do for our podcast, right? It still doesn't count as the longest episode. I'm just putting that out there. I know, but I think that's the longest I've ever spoken to anyone, even in real life, because we were speaking about five hours. I'm just trying to think of in terms of the raw audio before it was edited. And I've got to say, Marie, I think ours was like closer to three hours overall. though All of you were closer to three, but I think ours was over. the d I want to say honestly, see when I was looking through the audio and I was like, OK, I'll get it under two hours. And that wasn't happening. if You could have done that. You could have got it done in 25 minutes if you just cut out every time the garris was mentioned. You could have cut it out about 25 minutes. You don't see out there. There's the garris cut finished five hours long.
00:11:49
Speaker
the vicarian version. I don't know five that were cut over passion for that amazing tourian but see without any further ado while we all go in the elevator together one

Mass Effect Trivia Quiz Begins

00:12:00
Speaker
last time for this month yes yes let's do it although i have got one more thing to say uh-huh go for it just want to shout out the artwork again absolutely i want to get it framed i want to like print it out and get it framed yeah no I really need to get it printed. See in all seriousness if Mark Muir or Jennifer Hale or any of the mass affected people are wondering about any comic ones in the UK, I swear to god I will print that out and get them to sign up. Oh yes do it. Oh please. do. And of course, the artwork, as you're probably looking at as you listen to this episode on your favourite podcast provider, yeah, was done by an absolutely fantastic guy called Rose Carlo, and you can find him on Twitter, slash X. And yeah, he does absolutely fantastic work for the podcast. He has done Quite frankly, all of our theme months, whether that was the Simpsons Month, Spider-Man, Lord of the Rings, etc. So it was a huge shout out to him. But without any further ado, we're going to go into this elevator. It's going to be a long one. And to pass the time, we're going to listen to a few transmissions and we will be right back with this very special quiz. Welcome to Chatsunami, a variety podcast that discusses topics from gaming and films to anime and journal interests. Previously on Chatsunami, we've analysed what makes a good horror game, conducted a retrospective on Pierce Brosnan's runs James Bond, and listened to us take deep dives into both the Sonic and Halo franchises. Also, if you're an anime fan, then don't forget to check us out on our sub-series, Chatsunani, where we dive into the world of anime. So far, we've reviewed things like Death Note, Princess Mononoke, and the hit Beyblade series. If that sounds like your cup of tea, then you can check us out on Spotify, iTunes, and all good podcast apps. As always, stay safe, stay awesome, and most importantly, stay hydrated.
00:13:50
Speaker
Howdy Beans, and welcome to my podcast trailer. Now you're probably wondering, who's this weird English fella talking to me about beans? Well, great question. I am the host of the Nerd Staget Podcast, Luke the Human. Nice to meet you, hope you're doing well, hope you're all good, as always. Now, you're probably wondering, what is the Nerd Staget Podcast? Well, another good question, let me answer that for you. The Nerd Statute Podcast is a variety podcast talking about all things nerdy and nostalgic, from books, to video games, to movies, to TV shows, basically, if it is nerdy, and even if it just has the smidge, the hint of nerdism to it. Rest assured, I will cover it. I'm on all platforms from Spotify, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, and YouTube. All you do is search no target podcast and you'll find me. So I hope to see you there really soon.
00:14:52
Speaker
the
00:14:55
Speaker
I was pressing A to skip, it wasn't skipping. Exogenia has just found a new profuse. Oh, that was so good. Wow, it's like being in the games. Wow. I was going to carry my foot now. yeah You should have done, man. And we are back after that very, very long and totally not spliced together ride in the Mass Effect elevator. So are you guys ready for the Mass Effect quiz of your lives? No, absolutely not. I was born ready. Does third place get anything, by the way? A pat in the back. OK, all right. Well, I've got that to look forward to. OK.
00:15:37
Speaker
Ooh, wait, what does first place get? Dinner date with Garros. Luke, step aside. Oh, it's fine. It's fine. You can take him. I'll be down in engineering with Tali. Oh! Whoa! Over Michael, dead body of us. Oh, we've lost it. We've lost it. All right, I'll go down even further. I'll just sit with Jack and we talk about biotics. We've now got Chatsunami's shortest ever episode. There we go. Cheers, all. Luke, question one. True or false?
00:16:07
Speaker
Like, okay, to go over the rules again, I apologize for that outburst. Yeah, that was a real satsu there, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, come on. So to go over the rules for everybody playing at home as well, please feel free to play along listeners. We are going to be going through five questions per game and we have a lovely bonus round at the end. So please feel free to stay for that. But as I said, I'm going to read out five statements and you guys, that being, of course, Dan, Miriam, Luke here, you're going to tell me whether or not these facts are true or false. Now, I know how psychology works where someone says, oh, it's true and then everybody else agrees. Don't listen to them. i know It's false because some of them are true. Some of them are false, as I said, and some of them are a little little bit easier than others. So to be honest, judging by you guys, you might get full marks. You might not get full marks. Either way, have fun, please.
00:17:08
Speaker
This isn't even a joke, this is a request, please. This is not about the right answers, it's the friends you make along the way. I'll say true to everyone, Marie, you say false to everyone, Luke, so you don't know, one of us will win then. And the weather is look!
00:17:22
Speaker
OK, are you ready for the first one? Yep. So question one, before it gained its iconic name and development, Mass Effect went by the name SFX or Science Fiction X. Now, is that true or false? What are you guys thinking? False. Oh, well, you're going straight in for that. He sounds confident, Marie.
00:17:43
Speaker
I don't know because I'm leaning towards true because games never like when they're under the development, they never are under the name that they're meant to be. Yeah, I say because didn't Star Wars have that like the original name for Empire Strikes Back? Was it Blue Horizon? so under those lines Blue Moon? I don't know. Whatever the Family Guy episode is, whatever the Family Guy parody episode is, is the original Star Wars title. Sorry, this is a very weird tangent. It's still science fiction. Blue Harvest, I think you're thinking. That's Blue Harvest! It was actually because you said Family Guy. What did you say the names were? SFX or Science Fiction X?
00:18:23
Speaker
I'm going to say true as well, mainly because you've given two answers there or one answer and it and explained it fully, which feels like that makes it true in my head. I'm still going to stick with false, but I am leaning towards the true because these guys are still confusing. No, you don't listen to us. Honestly, you don't want to listen to me. They'll lead you down a bad road. I'm sticking to my guns. Did you not listen to the brief at the beginning of that episode? I'll lead you down a bad road. No, that is the only reason I don't know it, but I think because it's got a qualification to it, that makes it sound more true. So you know how to get around me now.
00:18:57
Speaker
OK, are you ready for the second question? Yeah. You said that was such confidence. Because I was so confident coming into it, but that first question really threw me. I'm like, I don't know anything about that. I'm afraid. Your whole belief system has come crashing down. Exactly. My whole world's been crumbling. This is exactly what I went through at work today, just saying.
00:19:15
Speaker
No one's going to be able to take our Andromeda episode seriously. No, I've lost all credibility. And that starts with Dan getting sucked out in the airlock. What I was going to say, based on the skit, I don't think any of us took it seriously either. Anyway, question two. Jenkins was supposed to be a permanent crew member whose death would have happened later in the game. However, due to Vermeijer, the idea was scrapped.
00:19:41
Speaker
Oh, I think I've heard this. I think I've heard this before and I think it might be true. I think I heard that he wasn't meant to die at the beginning, but I might be just chanting shit at the moment. I've heard the meme, like people used to make fun back in the early days of like, oh, there's a secret way of keeping Jenkins alive. And that's how you defeat the Reapers. And I'm like, I don't know. But I don't know. Well done, Chatsa. This quiz so far, two questions in, I'm already questioning everything. Oh, God, I don't know. He's an evil panda. He is. I want to say true, but I don't know if you're tricking us with the character, but I'm going to go for true because I'm with Marie. I think I've heard something along this line. I'm going to go true. And the reason being is the fact of it feels when you first talk to him till just the last minute before he dies, his dialogue feels like a character that should be there longer. You see what I'm trying to say? He doesn't feel like a character. That's a one note as he is. When you first have a chat with him, it feels like, oh, I'm going to get to know this kid. He's going to be the rookie. I'm going to teach him a thing or two. And then he, but Carmine, he will eventually die. I'm gonna go with I wanna go with true because you're so convincing. I'm tempted to change my mind now. Look what she's done Luke. She's convinced us to see that look. Look at her. This is the market and speak. Mind games. I don't know because generally the first character in the sci-fi always dies. Well, he wasn't wearing red. Sorry. Yeah, fair point. Fair point. Oh, but all of us are going true. So I played devil's advocate. Okay, I'm sticking with my guns. I'm going true. I'm going. Or is it false? No, I'm going true. Okay, truths across the board. Number three. During the development of the game, there was an easter egg planned where if you shot at sovereign during the Eden Prime mission, it would explode and the game would end. However, due to time constraints, the idea was scrapped. Oh, I really want that to be true because I want to do that now. It's like this imagine like you're shooting sovereign and boo kafitti. Well done. That can be right.
00:21:30
Speaker
I'd like to think it's true, but I'm going to say falsie. Do you want to know why I'm saying falsetty? I heard your dog bark and I think your dog knows you're lying. So that's on the basis, site I think your dog's called you out there. I'm saying falsie. Well, I don't want to do the Hodder movie trope, but that wasn't my fault i wasn' dog.
00:21:49
Speaker
Probably one of mine. Oh, because normally your dog sets you up. I was actually about to say, I think it's the dogs outside my window. Well, either way, Phantom Dogs. It's like Legion. It's like a hive mind there. They've called it out. So yeah, I'm still sticking with all the dogs know best.
00:22:04
Speaker
Yeah, I'm gonna go false. It's something I wish was true, and I would love to try it, but no, I don't think it true. and Oh, God. Yeah, I mean, no, did you put all that work in just to end it like that? I don't think so, and and I would take a lot of coding. It sounds like a Satsu lie. I'm also gonna go with false. If we're gonna fail, we're gonna fail together, guys. Yay!
00:22:23
Speaker
Okay, false is across the board and listeners are going to be so confused when I add those dog barking noises. Yeah, please don't. Dan just lost it. It was one blue smurf joke too much. Have I been indoctrinated?
00:22:41
Speaker
The Alice of Dan strikes again. Okay, question 4. Mass Effect 1 was not the first piece of Mass Effect media to be released. oh yeah i think i once again i've heard this before i think that's true i'm pretty sure i've heard this before i wasn't the first one No, I think it's true as well. Ooh, I think the book came first. Yeah, having the prequel novel came first and then the game. I don't think it was a book, but I do think something came first. It wasn't the art book, was it? Because usually they release the art book before they release the game. I don't know what most developers do. I mean, was it a short story? I'm not sure. That's the thing. It could be like a little novella or a little comic, but I don't know. The graphic novels for the first Contact War, I think they came out during Mass Effect 2. It's not them. Well, I think the novels did all come out. I think everything in the comics all came out after. But I am wondering whether there was. It it depends how sneaky Satsu's been. If we're saying, did you say media? It it could be like a five page storyboard or something that got released. Or we're saying if, well, Maria and I, we said that the game was called Special Effects or whatever at the start had a codename. Maybe there was something like a playable version ah or a demo under that name or something.
00:23:47
Speaker
I might be chatting shit right now, but i maybe it was like a game within a game that it appeared somewhere else. I might be, the yeah, pulling that right out of my ass, but I was, I just, I feel like there is something there. Well, it wasn't a prior game of Bioware's because there was no mention of I intend to do Mass Effect in Dragon Age.
00:24:05
Speaker
I'm going to say false, right? It feels like it should be a true answer, but I can't back up the reason why I would be saying true other than saying true. So I'm going to have to stick my gun to say it was false just on that basis that I don't know. I'm going to have to go false for the same reasons. I'm so indecisive. I think the answer is true, but I just don't know why it is.
00:24:26
Speaker
So, two falses and a true? Yeah, I'm sticking to my guns here. And the final question of this round, the Krogan were nearly written out of the game for being too problematic to programme as the skeleton for their model kept popping out of their backs whenever but they moved. As a result, this is why their armour is so bulky. Oh, this might be true because I did read that because Mass Effect came out quite a long time ago, that when it came to like programming, they did have to use humanoid skeletons for the aliens because that was the only available technology back in the day. So that's why all the aliens do look kind of humanoid because they had to build them on human skeletons. So that could be true. Or is he using an actual fact to trick us? They definitely early developed them on human and skeletons. I know that's a fact.
00:25:14
Speaker
I do Pardja. All I've got stuck in my head now is just I'm walking around with Rex and he's going to just pop sound like, Rex, no. And he's like, it's fine, Shepard. It's a flesh wound. I mean, we yeah, but because we don't see them outside of their armor ever, except for like in three, I think we see a Krogan outside their armor, but we'd never see one in one. See, I'm looking at my answers and if I say false, which I think it is, I left three in a row. So I'm doing that thing where I'm thinking that can't be right, can it?
00:25:40
Speaker
ah True, true, true, true, false, false. What I've got in my head is, again, is this a true fact, but it's not the Krogan? And you've thrown us off by saying Krogan. But it has to be the Krogan, unless it's the Volus. I don't get why the Krogan, because the Krogan is still, you could draw them, I don't get. See, now I don't think it'd be the Volus, because they are just, they they're just tiny humans, really. Tiny fat humans. Basically, yeah. They're babies. Yeah. Wouldn't be the Salarians, because the Salarians are just elongated humans.
00:26:06
Speaker
I'm going false. I don't know why. you Did you say it's because the skeletons kept popping out? Yeah. Well, when I say skeletons, I mean in the... Like the model. Yeah, like the model. I don't get why that would happen just on the krogan. So I'm saying false. Well, I would imagine it'd be an issue for the elk core as well. Yeah. Because humans have been that way. Yeah, again. Well, yeah, but they don't really move, do they? Yeah, yeah, I don't think the Elkhor were designed on humanoid skeletons. I think it's just the main ones, which is why we never see an Elkhor fight. It would have been cool. I would love to see an Elkhor fight. Yeah, Elkhors are my spirit animal. I love them so much. Curiously. No, I'm going to go false because from breaking down all the other aliens, I'm going to say false because it doesn't make sense. Okay, Marie, what are you going for?

Trivia Answers Revealed

00:26:48
Speaker
I'm going against the boys here. I'm going through.
00:26:53
Speaker
And by that relaxing sound that definitely wasn't edited, that that signifies the end of the first round. So are you ready for the answers? yeah No. OK, question one. I asked you if Mass Effect went by the name SFX slash Science Fiction X. Unsurprisingly, it is true. Oh, I'm sorry.
00:27:22
Speaker
I've lost all credibility on these. Yeah, apparently it was... I don't know if they were going to go for the name fully. It was the development name that they had initially. Exactly like what you said, looking at Blue Harvest, or was it Yumiri? Yeah, it was supposed to be under that name, but I don't know whether they would have gone ahead and called it Science Fiction X, but I'm going to be honest, SFX would have been a terrible name. Yeah, it's really cheesy as well. It's not one of those that you you take seriously with mass effect. It's like, whoa, that's interesting with science. That way I can't even say it because I can't remember it. It's just one of those that's like so forgetful. You're like, I ain't going to play that. It sounds probably cheap. So question two about Jenkins supposedly being a permanent crew member. That is, as far as I know, false. Ah, fuck. But thank you for convincing everybody You know what? I should've changed my answer. I should've done that. That would've been such a bitching move.
00:28:18
Speaker
ah She threw out the UNO card. Exactly. Do an UNO reverse. You just take one for the team, mano. So question three, this is such a fascinating one, by the way. Question three, you all said folks for this one. And this is the one about shooting sovereign at the beginning of Eden Prime. And that was cut. Apparently that was true. I knew I was going to change it. I didn't want to say anything before the last second. So the idea was, I don't know if it was like if you did a New Game Plus or something that you would have been able to have shot sovereign and they would have blown up because there are mods and things that have put it back. I tried this in one of my lunch breaks. I literally ran through. I didn't even talk to Jenkins. I was like, no time for a Mario Jenkins. I gotta find this easter egg. You were always meant to die anyway. yeah Unfortunately, it does not work. I shot it with every single gun, doesn't work, and see if I'm proven wrong with that. Please, someone call me out for it. For the fourth answer, Mass Effect 1 was not the first piece of Mass Effect media to be released. It is true. but yeah so
00:29:30
Speaker
You were right Luke, when you said about the book it was Mass Effect Revelations which came out in May the 1st 2007 and it wasn't until November I want to say that the game itself came out so I actually never knew that. I genuinely thought the game was first and then the books came after it, seems like a weird flap Yeah, it does happen sometimes. Star Wars Jedi Survivor, that one had a tie novel that came up before it. I think Gears of War was the same as well. Asphalt Fields, that came out. And that's what made me think it's true. Then I was just like, no, because I wasn't sure. I had to go false, but damn it. And the final question about spooky, krogan skeletons dancing all around, that is indeed false. Oh, fuck. I got one.
00:30:17
Speaker
Unfortunately, there were no s spooky Krogan skeletons, which is a shame, but but on the other hand, it's not a shame because I wouldn't want to look at a Krogan skeleton. But I did giggle and chuckle when I was writing that one. I was like, can you imagine? but As you said Luke. Shippered. You know how much I love the game, but we can all admit it's as buggy as fuck. It has some really cursed elements, so that's why I believed it. But then again, if that was the case, the developers probably would have never fixed it. Very true. Sorry, I know developers work really hard. It's just playing through legendary. I was just like, how the fuck did they not fix these bugs? My face is tired. I'll talk about this, sorry, briefly, and it's on Andromeda, ironically, not the legendary dish, but Josh Scar, Talkie Smacks, sent me, yeah and I'll have to see if I can get it for when this goes out, from Andromeda, a bug of a character taking a drink, and they're a human character pouring it into their ear instead of their face. If you've still got it, I'll get him some of the clip and I'll send it out, but it's the funniest thing you'll see. Oh, that doesn't surprise me. And drama does. Well, we're not going there. We're not going in memory. hus Like it's just, yeah. OK, are you ready for the second round of this quiz? Yeah, sure. Sitting pretty at two out of five. Nick and Nick with you, Marie. Nick and Nick. So this time we are indeed going to go on to the lovely world of Mass Effect 2. OK, I really feel like if I fail this section, I would have to leave.
00:31:41
Speaker
Just podcast the exile, of doesn't it? Exactly. Exile me to Mass Effect Dramata, that's the punishment. Your face will be eternally tired. Drink tea

Mass Effect 2 Trivia Round

00:31:53
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through your ear. You'll be with the Quarian somewhere. So question one, the only reason Garris is a romance option is because the fans demanded it. Oh yeah, that makes sense.
00:32:08
Speaker
I mean, I'll give a reason. We all know. Who wouldn't want to boink him? I mean, I think the Krogan scene is the Turians almost wiped them out. name and their scale what open out The lore we are building tonight, honestly. It's just a flesh wound. It's okay. We can have a new version of the first Contact Four. Yeah, I've got a feeling it's true. I'm sure I read somewhere or had something that the the developers didn't expect Gareth to be that liked or were quite amazed at how liked he was as a character, I think. Yeah. Are you ready for the second question? Yeah. Morten. And apologies, Dan. I know it's too soon. He just wanted to do some research on seashells. Don't make us cry. So this is me.
00:32:52
Speaker
Well, it's about to get a whole lot. When he was brutally exploded at the top of... Too soon. Too soon. Always too soon. Someone else might have gone wrong. You're my boy. You're my boy. Go ahead.
00:33:07
Speaker
Do you regret your choice of getting us up for this? No, not at all. No, this is great content. Trauma for the podcast. So question two, Morden was horribly exploded in that moment. Had to be him. Like question two for serious. Morden is the only character to change voice actors between Mass Effect 2 and 3. That's a good one.
00:33:32
Speaker
That is great because I think it's total lies, but at the same stage, I'm like, hmm. Yeah, I'm gonna say false. I should have let you two go first. No, I agree because I equally love that man. I have a bust of him on my desk and I feel like I would notice if his voice changed even the slightest. So I'm gonna go false. Marie, what are you saying? Yeah, I'm the same. I mean, I obviously don't pay attention to him as much as I do a certain other character, but I think I would have noticed. Yeah, I don't think that's true. that I think that's false. Yeah. And I'm going to say false, not because I know for absolute 100% that his voice didn't change, but he said only, didn't he? The only character. And I've picked up on that. So I think maybe some other characters did. And so if there was, there'd be more than one. if it Even if it was him, there'd be more than one. So I'm saying false purely on that basis. I'm not having any logic to this other than picking up on the specific words you're saying.
00:34:24
Speaker
You don't trust me after the last one. No, no. So I'm saying false for that reason. OK, false is across the board. Question three. Mass Effect 2 was supposed to be the finale of the series, thus the suicide run level at the end. However, EA saw how lucrative the series had become and demanded it to be turned into a trilogy. I mean, that'd be an EA thing, right? I was about to say they wouldn't end a series with killing everyone, but then they literally did that in three.
00:34:53
Speaker
I think it's false. I think, yeah. I think it always was meant to be a trilogy. Yeah. I'm going to go false as well. Because even though you get given the option to kill everybody and act, get yourself killed at the same stage. Yeah. No, I feel like EA being EA, they want to squeeze as much money out of this franchise as they could. So it was just like, we're doing free games and then a prequel. I think false. I think it was always planned to be free games. I would say that maybe they didn't plan it for three when they released the first one, but I reckon on the success of the first that they definitely wanted it to be a trilogy. So if that decision was made, it would have been after one, not two, I think. Yeah. Falls across the board again. Honestly, you guys are so distrusting of me.
00:35:34
Speaker
Well, no, that one would make sense as well. Sorry, just add in. Because if I remember correctly, when they made Mass Effect 1, they were under partnership with Microsoft Studios. And then Mass Effect 2, they went off to join EA. And I feel like for the success of it, EA probably could have gone, you know what, let's do a third game as well just to get, you know, because we can see how much of a money pig this possibly can be. you know So yeah, it's plausible. Let's rob those nerds dry. Basically, and and they did with the body pillows. I still don't have one. I do not know question four.
00:36:04
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So, question 4. There were plans for the Vermeijer survivor to be a squad mate in 2, but due to the already bloated roll call of characters, this was promptly shelved.
00:36:15
Speaker
Oh, I mean, it sounds plausible. I mean, you kind of just leave Caden behind and I'm saying Caden because that's me only leave right that's the only, the only Vermeijer survivor worth talking about. And it always like struck me a bit weird, especially if you do the romance option. And then he's just like, I love you, but fuck off. And just leaves. Although it's like because I didn't romance him this time around when I played my last playthrough. And he's so much more harsh if you romance him. He's less of a dick if you don't romance him, which is just you toxic masculinity, like, blech.
00:36:52
Speaker
That's why you should have left him on Vermeer. I see now I leave Ash. Yeah, you leave the spaces. I've had this argument with Satsu, they're all spaces to some way. They're all bad people. But everyone comes around. Sorry, I'm going off track here. What was the question again? Why should you leave but Caden on Vermeer I think the question was. True or false?
00:37:15
Speaker
The real Vermeijer survivor is Cadet. Ashley can go boom. I'm saying true. Only on the basis that neither character really, I don't think, it well, either character has a big part. Whoever you romance doesn't tend to be in the second game, does it? Yeah. For example, even Liara does it. It just feels like, yeah, maybe Lucas, you said they go to EA and it's like, we want to make this a much bigger thing. Screw whoever was in the first game almost.
00:37:37
Speaker
This is a difficult one. I want to say true because it does sound incredibly plausible if we're going off sort of what happened, what we said in the last question, but also I'm on the side of false because I feel like when you meet either Ashley or Caden on Horizon, that moment is very much the fact of of, you know, I trusted you, you're with our enemy, what you're doing and why. And I feel like that moment is a very poignant moment for us players as a character being like, Oh shit, am I the bad guy? You know, it gets you to question, it gets you to question Cerberus probably more than some people would. I completely agree with you. But again, it's actually the question, the fact of you question Cerberus. And that's why I think it works better if they don't become a companion. As you know, Mass Effect 2, we had 12 companions. I think we had more than enough. I'm going false. It's more boinking options, right? For Shepard, that's what it is, ultimately. Oh, basically. We'll bang it, okay? I just want to point out, Garris followed her without a second thought. Anyway, that's why he's the goat. He was always more interested in calibrations, though, just saying. Not later on. Oh, we don't want him to calibrate.
00:38:37
Speaker
So what are you thinking Miri? Oh, I don't know because I was leaning towards true, but then Luke's argument was actually pretty. It kind of shifted my mind because yeah, it is already a pretty full on cast. I think you should go for false because then I'll be the only one that gets the point where it being true. Do you like that Satsu? I've played Among Us with Dan, I wouldn't trust him. Have we all agreed until this point? I'm changing my answer, I'm going false.
00:39:02
Speaker
okay if i fail luke i'm blaming you bye Question 5, the final one for Mass Effect 2. After hearing about the meme surrounding the reporter being punched, there had been similar plans to have this option for Rodina when you first meet him again in the Presidium. However, lead developer park Casey Hudson found that it may have been too mean-spirited and decided against it. ah you know i really want to point you dana might say even got your first game he said' if it wrong just just one hey you know
00:39:33
Speaker
i mean like That's for the future. You do get to shoot him later, which is very satisfactory. Yeah, I love that part in your review of MassSpec3. It was like, as soon as I get Renegade option for Aduna, I'm taking it. like I'm on the same level, Dan. I want to say true because you had so much detail in your question. It wasn't just like a simple question. So I want to say true because I think who doesn't want to hit Aduna. I'm going with true.
00:39:53
Speaker
It is very satisfying when Anderson punches him in one. But I don't think it's that much of a meme as the reporter, which by the way, Satsu has never done. No, you can't play Mass Effect without punching the reporter. Like, I play Paragon and I still punch the fucking reporter. It's just part of the game. Everybody does it once. Satsu didn't! I didn't. I actually didn't. But you're doing Renegade Run now. haven You haven't done that yet? I got trapped in a bubble with an Asari consort, okay?
00:40:23
Speaker
I have to snazzy. Yeah, fun times in the bubble. Anyway, but what do you think of Marie? Oh, I think it's... Oh, my gut is saying false. I'm saying false. I think Satsu is being sneaky on this one. Me sneaky? Don't be silly. When two came out, memes weren't even the thing. I've held off because that's what I was going to say. The only thing about it was about it being a meme. I wasn't sure if they'd have had that when they were making it because I even think they might be making three at the time of two, I don't know. No, they didn't mix it with a different writer. It was 2010, wasn't it? Yeah, but you know, these things are always in kind of in production. But it's a meme thing that has made me... I'm going false solely on that. Pay no answers? False for me, yeah. False. Yeah, yeah. Luke, you're going true, right? ah Yeah, true. yeah Yeah, sorry. He had me at the meme. I was like, he's got a point, but now I'm going true. I'm thinking back to when I was in school in 2010. I'm like, they must have. Yes, I'm sure I have saw ah some sort of a proto meme.
00:41:18
Speaker
The Genesis meme, you know, I remember seeing something like that. I mean, we had the S, I feel like that was a bit of a meme. The cool S. All right, Satsu, put us out of our misery.
00:41:30
Speaker
And of course, by that, Reaper plaques and you can hear in the background, Kofkof totally not editing it in. That is indeed the end of the second round. So question one, the only reason Garris is a romance option is because fans demanded it. You all said true. Yeah, that's true. Oh yeah! I had to throw an easy one in there, I apologise, but I had to throw one. Second one, Morden is the only character to change voice actors between Mass Effect 2 and 3. Now, as far as I know, he is the only one, but yeah, that was true apparently. Wait, what? Yeah, apparently he changed voice actors between two and three. But whoever did that did a fantastic job. It's not an IMDB. According to my handy-dandy sources here, in Mass Effect 2 they were voiced by Michael Beatty and they were replaced by William Sellers for three. There you go, Al. I honestly did not realise that. I'm googling this, I'm not believing you. Yeah, I'm going to go for it.
00:42:28
Speaker
going up against a panda lawyer. So as you do that, number three, talking about it being the finale of the series, you're all right, it was false. As far as I know, it has always been intended to be a trilogy. So yeah, full marks there. Number four, talking about the plans for the Vermeijer survivor to be a permanent squad mate, that was false.
00:42:51
Speaker
ah Yeah, so as far as I know there was no plans and I'm so glad because there's like 12 or 13 characters that you get in that game. ah Hold on, hold on, ah I'll stick with it. I think I understood the question, right? Did you say they were going to be part of it and they were written out? Yeah, yeah I knew that was false but I'm going to stick my... I meant false but I'm going to stick my heart to Treasures. Damn it. No, it's not your fault, it's my fault. I would have liked to think what Ashley would have been like on that ship full of 12 different aliens. She would have been like, Oh, ah this will come back to haunt me now. This will come back to haunt me this answer. Damn it. It's looking very Vermeijer in here, isn't it? By the way, according to Reddit, Satsu's right. Like there was any doubt. Oh, thank God, because I always worry about that in these quizzes. I'm like, Am I right? I swear I'm right. It's a danger of including me in this, you know, I research and fact check everything.
00:43:41
Speaker
and So question five about the memes surrounding Edina as false. Oh yeah, four out of five bitches. no bad So yes indeed as far as I know there were no plans to punch Idina but if there was that would have been hilarious and yeah that takes us on to the third round and before we jump in we are gonna listen to some handy dandy ads and we will be right back once again after we go down this second elevator.
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00:45:45
Speaker
And we are back. Are you guys ready for Mass Effect 3? Yep. Yeah, not to sound too cocky, right? But I'm in the lead, aren't I? By point, and only because I absolutely write royally, you've got a bleep machine now, can you bleep this next word? Beep it out, beep it up, yeah. Sorry, I'm going off on one note, you know that meme with that guy, it's from a programmer, he's just sitting on that swing alone, daring out into the distance. Oh, it's from Darko. That's going to be me the rest of this week now. You've spoilt my bank holiday weekend now, Satsui, thank you. I'm glad to hear that. Don't worry, watch me crash and burn like the first Normandy in this round.
00:46:22
Speaker
I will crawl it. I'm back in Andromeda. You see. You watch. Do you know what I love about this? I love how in the very first round Luke was saying, oh, I'll have to, you know, exile myself if I get this wrong. Marie said the same for the second one. Now we're on the third one. I think Dan's just like, you know what? I don't care if people know that I know a lot about Mass Effect 3 or not. Oh, let's hear it, Satsui. Let's hear it.
00:46:45
Speaker
So question one. In one of BioWare's weirdest promotional stunts for the game, a few local gyms in Toronto had the Vega Challenge where gym members were challenged air with me here where gym members were challenged to beat the pull-up record that Vega demonstrates in the game. Those who did it would receive a free copy of the game for a limited time. limited I'm saying this is true. This sounds like a proper, proper advertising stunt.
00:47:15
Speaker
It does because he can't do anything. You don't like the Colombo? I don't recall seeing it. And I've done a couple of episodes on unusual marketing stunts for games and I don't recall seeing this. Yeah. So I'm going to now say false on that. Yeah. And why would it be with Vega? He's such a shit character and no one knows who he is. He's so dude bro. But also because he was a new character. He's so dude bro and macho and that feels like a really good challenge if it was

Humorous Banter and Rumors

00:47:46
Speaker
real. Okay, but let's face it coming from a group of pale pasty skinny nerds. The last place to promote Mass Effect would be in a gym. Yeah. That's not their target demographic.
00:47:59
Speaker
Satsu, I think you need your panda lawyer just to say that she doesn't speak on behalf of Chatsunami with that last statement on. And I'm only pale because I'm ginger. What I was going to say it was, you can't see it because this is all due only, but behind, you know, the microphones were all slow as hell. and you know Well, like, do you know that Chad meme? Yeah.
00:48:18
Speaker
ah true Mass Effect fans here. I thought you were going to say you had your producer on the other headphones saying car cut the episode now. kind of Oh no, I cut the line for that a while ago. You cut the audio 40 minutes ago. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah I'm going to deal with that later.
00:48:34
Speaker
and It's so ridiculous that they're leaning towards Troop, but then again, Satsu is a very imaginative person. I'm gonna go false as well. as As someone who works in marketing, that does not sound like a smart move. Get swole like Vega.
00:48:50
Speaker
Bro, he's a lot better written in the movie. And in the game, I just can't stand it. But I love Freddie Prinze, but yeah they made him as a dude, bro, in the game. OK, so you're all going for false for that one? Yeah. yeah Question two. There was a planned DLC where Shepard would be Blasto's bodyguard and get into hijinks around the Citadel. However, it was canceled due to time restrictions and Blasto was relegated to a cameo in the Citadel DLC instead. I so want this to be true.
00:49:19
Speaker
Oh, oh, God. I don't know, because yeah, because the Citadel DLC is quite goofy. So then then maybe they're thinking, oh, we have too many goofy things in this game that will make you want to rip your heart out. So o probably that sounds like it's true. It did cut a lot out of Mass Effect 3 and then he added it in later, as we've spoken about. I'm going to do what Dan does where he's breaking it down the question. I would have said true, but because you said he would regulate it to the DLC, then that's why I'm a bit sort of go leading towards false, because obviously the whole point of Mass Effect 3 is there's no point of messing around, you know, there's a war on, you've got to quickly get resources, stuff like that. So it wouldn't have made sense if it's like, oh, you've just gone to one paladin's moon, but now you've got to help a fishman. Hey, it's Ahanar. Come on. Ahanar, you know. I mean like it wouldn't have made sense it would have been a very sort of left-wind of a character's just died or something really sad has happened and now you've got blasto and you've got protect him it would feel really out left field so yeah I'm gonna go false because even though I would love that to be the case I don't think it would have worked in the main game so I'm going false Oh, I mean, that was an excellent point, but I'm still going. I still am going for true just because excellent point from Luke. But then again, Mass Effect 3 is not known for their writing. So yeah, for their logical writing, because like, like there's some amazing moments and then there's some, you know, the rip your hair out of your head moments. So I feel like they would have, would throw about this idea. Are you going true? Yes. And Dan, you've been uncharacteristically quiet. I just wanted your answer because I need one answer different to yours at least because we were a point ahead so I was just waiting for the first answer. This absolutely sounds plausible but I think it's false. I just don't think they would have done, the game was done, the the Citadel DLC was only done as fanservice afterwards to give people a bit of a happier send off than the original game had. So I'm gonna say false on two reasons, one to get a different answer to Marie but also that.
00:51:24
Speaker
Yeah, all as true as it could sound, and you could turn around and say, is that absolutely true? I think on the basis that the game was done and Citadel. But then could they have put him in because they... No, false. Final answer. Can I just say, I took a quiz today that would have determined if I would have gotten fired or not. And this is still the most stressful moment of my day.
00:51:43
Speaker
ah Okay, question 3. In the finale of Mass Effect 3, there was supposed to be a boss fight with the elusive man, but this was ultimately scrapped. getting another one
00:52:00
Speaker
I think it's false. I think the elusive man was just a bit part in the finale. What could he do? Unless they had like a similar situation to Saren where something like the Reaper crawls out of him and then they go, oh no, that's too similar because already it's plot wise very similar. Like you defeat the elusive man the same way you defeat Saren. You just get him to shoot himself. I'd never noticed that before, but now you mentioned it. I was like, yeah, I've just realized yeah but oh they did it. so Sorry to ruin that part of the game for you. Yeah. I only noticed it when I played them all back to back last month and I was just like, that's the same fucking ending. Because it is, if if you do the paragon of renegade options, you can't get him into other changes mind or kill himself. It's like, damn, he just blew my mind. and ah you know I thought they were clever with that ending, but apparently not. I'm going to go true because I feel like I've heard something under the lines of this was planned. But at the same stage, Dan made a really good point in his Mass Effect 3 review when he said he would have happily have had Mass Effect end at that point where you get Anderson and Shepard together. And I was actually thinking about it, I was like, you know what, that would have been the best ending. Didn't know that I wanted it to end, but if that had to end, that would have been like the best way to end it. And then having a fight before that wouldn't have made sense. So I'm going to go true that it was probably originally planned, but they went with the star child. Oh God, I'm torn between two things. Oh God. Okay, I'm going to go false. My gut is is false, but then I've got three forces in a row, but that's why the cookie crumbles.
00:53:24
Speaker
That wasn't school, Dan. You're in a safe place. Again, not that any of your questions I think I've heard, but I don't recall this. I don't think it would make sense to have the elusive man and then bossy. Yeah, just false. Question four. The reason FemmeShep has a red hair is because of a fan-voted poll. Originally, she was voted to be blonde.
00:53:44
Speaker
Oh. Oh. Feels good. That's a good one. I think that's true. Yeah. Because FemShep was only ever on the cover of Mass Effect 3. Because once again, they completely dismissed that option. And then only in 3, you could have the option of buying the game with FemShep on it or MailShep. And that's the first time you actually saw the canon version of FemShep. I think it was a reverse sleeve. That's what they did. Yes. You can buy the copy, but you could change this. It was. You're completely right. And by the way, it is always FemShep. She is the canon shepherd. Anyway, let's move on. No, I actually kind of agree, you know, after playing through Mass Effect 3 as FemShep, I actually think she's the better version. But again, it's also the better voice actor. The voice acting for FemShep is off the charts. I've got in my head it's true. Something rings a bell about that character. Same. Or that model. Because I know a lot of people did, and I know this bit for a fact, a lot of people did complain that there was enough fem Sheppard representation. That's why they did the reverse sleeve to kind of appease fans who wanted a female Sheppard on the cover. And I remember that was an argument. It was on IGN or one of the sort of things. So I'm really inclined to be like EA or even Bioware to be like, you know what? If we're going to go that far, maybe we should ask people what color hair should be. Maybe. I'm going to go true. So we're all going through then. Yeah. Interesting. What you can't see at the moment is that I'm currently pacing back and forth.
00:55:02
Speaker
Just a sweat pouring off. Okay, final question of the round. And Dan, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. So get your tissues ready here. There is actually a way to keep Mordin alive during the Priority to Chanka mission. Oh yeah, that's true. Sorry. Hold on, trying to take all that in. You're telling me all this time I've let him kill himself and I could have saved him. Yeah, you're a monster, Luke. Apparently so. I'm getting a chunk of flashbacks. I don't know how to tell you this, look. We've all been keeping them alive this whole time. Even Dan knew. I think I know this, yes. Sorry, I think I just spoiled the answer there for everyone. Do you want to give your answer, Luke? I'm just distraught.
00:55:44
Speaker
Look, I think I know this. I think it's true, but I think to do it, I think a couple of others have to die and I think it might be Rex as well. And so in my version of the game, it's just the well it's the right, well, not the right thing, but it's a heroic thing for Mordin to do. Don't you're making me go already here. Don't worry, you'll get some seashells at the end of this episode this way. I think it is true. I think it is true. What do you think, Luke? Part of me wants to say false because of all this time me letting my best friend die.
00:56:13
Speaker
I'm going to get emotional now myself. What have we done, Luke? What have we done? He just wanted to look at shells. He had to be, you know, somebody else would have got it wrong. It did. It's got to go wrong. Damn it. I'm sorry. I'm flummoxed. After this, I'm going to start Googling him like, is it true? I'm going to go true because it must be, if you two are saying it, it must be, but at the same stage as the fact that you're in the lead. Okay, I'll go true, but I still feel bad because of like just finding out that I could have saved him when I didn't.
00:56:46
Speaker
And once again, by that sound at the end, of course, we have reached the end of the round. So question one about the Vega challenge. You are all right. Yeah. and Mass Effect fans are indeed a bunch of pasty nerds. I'm really sorry. I did not mean to insult her. I'm one of you. I am one of you. but She said it with confidence, so it's okay. She said with confidence and rippling muscles, it's like, I am one of you, I swear.
00:57:14
Speaker
I get out of breath by just going up the stairs. So that first one definitely was false. Number two, about the Blasto Bodyguard DLC. Yeah, that is false, apparently. Fuck! Yeah. Seeing all seriousness though, I genuinely wish that was true. Oh yeah, I would love to do it, but... Oh, that was the one I'll converse to Maria as well, right? That was the second reason to get to that point, wasn't it? Oh, playing the long game. So question three about the fight with the elusive man. Apparently that was true. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Luke's clawing it back. Look at his teeth. Yeah. I think they thought that there was a lot of parallels between Sarin's fight and the elusive man. So they didn't want to have the same thing where you convince him to shoot himself in the face and then fight him after it. And they just thought that was a about the two. They wouldn't have worked, I don't think.
00:58:06
Speaker
You're killing with logic, not with bullets. I will call me and be here, but yeah. So number four, and this was a really interesting one about Femship being outrated because of a fan-voted poll. This is actually true. Yeah, I knew it. So what I didn't realise, and again it was so fascinating, and there was such an outrage about this because initially people voted them as being blonde and then there was a huge backlash from, I can't remember who it was, but there was a particular game journalist who spoke out against it and there was quite a few saying that it was all about the male gaze and the things like that, like barbifying femshep essentially. So then they put out the poll again and that's the reason why she has it for her default look.
00:58:53
Speaker
Because let's face it, based on everything else that appears in in the game, her having blonde hair is probably not the worst thing that they did, Ron. No, no, no. But to be honest, I do get the argument there. Yeah, absolutely. No, Not to climb on my feminist side horse here, but also, redheads are far more badass. Thank you, thank you.
00:59:13
Speaker
but it always made sense to me because obviously I always been ginger whenever any well you guys are probably the same when you play a role-playing game you always try to model the character to kind of look like oh absolutely not any up my character to have hair Luke so suffering oh my characters always have ginger hair so when I saw femme chef with ginger hair it just made sense I heard about the controversy later on but yeah I see where they come from but the same stage is the fact of it's a game character if you play the game you know there's far things worse as you say than somebody what color hair they've got And I think you covered it, Marie, in yours, like the ah the Miranda C knit and things like that, and Jack's outfit as well. it's yeah But anyway, this isn't that episode. You covered all that brilliantly. Yeah, and I'm just putting it out there in case any casting directors are listening. I'm willing to dye my hair red. Although a purple hair adventure sounds badass too. I hope I had green eyes. Exactly. I think that would be an awesome look. I'm willing to do my own stunts.
01:00:07
Speaker
Last but not least, question five. Are you ready for this answer? I've forgotten a question again already. Sea shells, Dan, sea shells. Oh God, that's what I put it out my mind. you justra The wound, the wound. We have to go through this again.
01:00:24
Speaker
don't worry this is the last mordant, wait hold on let me check, yeah that's the last mordant question and yeah it is true. So the reason behind this and Dan you touched on it briefly as well, if you let Rex die in the first one I want to say, If he kill him in Vermeijer, then his brother or brother from another krogan, Reeve, he takes over the clan and he can convince Morden to pretend that he's cured the genophage. And Reeve needs to die as well. Too much damage. It's not worth it. Can I just say before we move on that he was a very model of a scientist's delirium. He was indeed. My thoughts go with you, Morden.
01:01:09
Speaker
but Whichever voice actor's listening to this. Because apparently there was more than one of you. Yeah, I mean they could be alive out there than one voice actor or another. Have I told you guys what is my dream casting for Morden for the Mass Effect TV series? Go on. Daniel Radcliffe. Oh, yeah, I could kind of say that. Yeah, moving on, Sassy. That is not convinced. Yeah, moving on quickly. We are at the penultimate set of questions. I cannot wait. There's more. I saw that it was 15. I saw that was it. I was i was well chuffed.
01:01:43
Speaker
Well, would you believe you're tied for first place? Yeah, I know. That's why I saw it. That's why you had to create five extra questions in case this happened. Pressure is on. Here is the mass effect Andromeda of this. OK, this is not this is not fair. This is where Luke overtakes us now. Yeah, I never could put myself through Andromeda. Everybody has to do it once. It's like I was going to say slap in the dog. And I was like, no, Satsu didn't do it. Let's just say we don't acknowledge this round, just like we don't acknowledge it. Dromida, right?
01:02:13
Speaker
oh No, and just for everyone listening, I do like Andromeda. I've just only ever played it the twice other than that's all. And I couldn't do it. I'm sorry. Can't wait till I hated it. ah So it sounds like Dan says, I hate Andromeda.
01:02:28
Speaker
Andromeda fans are nerd. that's Okay, question one. Ryder was initially supposed to be a relative of Shepard during the early stages of planning, but this was scrapped due to the design team wanting to move away from the Shepard storyline. Oh, I feel like everybody's waiting for me just doing it.
01:02:49
Speaker
No, I'm going false. I'm going false. Only because Andromeda obviously came out after, but there's no reference to his family other than his parents. I think if you pick one of the backgrounds, I honestly think that they wouldn't do that as well. I think they'd want it different. So I think I'm going false. Yeah, see, I don't know how you'd fit it in in the story, unless it was like in a bit of dialogue or a codex, be like, oh, by the way, I'm related to a war hero, Shepard. He died, you know, killed by Gef or whatever. I don't know where you'd fit that in into the story. And again, it'd leave more questions and answers. And that's all that a dramaturist really. Yeah, but even like in three, they keep talking about, do you have family on Earth? Do you have relatives here or there? And Shepard never says anything. I think it depends on the background. And to me, it felt like that gang was supposed to be a different chapter. Yeah. I guess if you think of it on the side of what EA, because EA being EA, they'd want to capitalize on sort of the success of Mass Effect 3 and obviously Mass Effect Andromeda being the next one. It would make sense to me that in the early days they'd be like, oh, how can we shovel in Shepard or so-and-so characters from the original in the early stages? And then I would imagine the team was like, no, we can't make it work. So I'm going to go true, even though Dan makes a good point. I'm leaning towards true because I mean, yeah, because like the first rule, it's kind of like a very bad sequel rule that when you create a sequel, somehow someone needs to be related to someone, even though it does make zero sense. And let's face it, whoever wrote Andromeda didn't really do a lot of thinking. So I think it's true. Question two. The galaxies of the Andromeda cluster are named after Milky Way explorers, both real and fictional. True, I think.
01:04:27
Speaker
I feel like that would be a cool easter egg. Yeah, I think it's true. I would go for true. Yeah, it feels like they try to do clever things like that. Yeah. Well, when you said the word people, because again, I was thinking explorers is in the shuttle, for example, the shuttle discovery and stuff like that. Yeah, I'm going to say true, because that would be quite clever considering the whole point of Andromeda is to be explorers. And that'd be, like I said, Marisa, a good easter egg. So I like how this is the random we're most thankful, you know, trying to think of like, oh, logically. Yeah, I want to go true. same Yeah, same here. Question 3. If you explore one of the colonies for long enough, you will see Andromeda's equivalent of the shifty looking cow.
01:05:06
Speaker
a creature that used to steal money from players when their backs were turned. See, this could be, because in Mass Effect 3 they also had that easter egg, didn't they, of the Mars Rover? Yes, they did, which wasn't discovered till which later. Sorry, which one, what? In Mass Effect 3, when you could first go to Mars, when you first land, if you look behind you there is some solar panels, and if you weave around them in a certain pattern, a little rover, a little robot will appear to you and he'll wave, and then he'll drive away.
01:05:34
Speaker
but It's really, really cute. I recommend after this, Google it on YouTube. It's very cute. I even tried it when I did a legendary edition. It does work still. I want to say false because I've played Andromeda to the fullest. I've been through all the planets and that's never happened and I wish it did now. Probably would have made the game a lot more interesting at times, especially when doing space Jenga. I mean, space sudoku, either way. I'm going to say false as well on a basis that people know about the shift decal. We know about the Mars rover. I mean, it could be unhidden. It could be something. But I think if Satsui's saying it on a quiz here, it would have been bigger things. Well, again, I hate to say it, but it's a true fact. Not many people played Andromeda. So how many people actually spending their hours going through every planet, combing it completely, trying to find easter eggs? You know what I mean? So I still think Satsui's a big liar, though. saying Oh, God, yeah. But I'm going false. I don't think that's true.
01:06:20
Speaker
ah Yeah, I'm also leaning on false on this one and hearing that again. So false is across the board? Yep. Okay, question four. The initial plan for the planet exploring mechanics was to have procedurally generated biomes that the players could land on, much like No Man's Sky. However, it was promptly scrapped due to limitations. I like the sound of that. It feels like something they would have tried to do to completely break away from the trilogy and its quite linear nature. But also what we've got to remember is that Andromeda was made by the B team, not the A team. This is coming from somebody who likes Andromeda. No, yeah. You've got to love something to be able to hate on it. These were the people that did the DLC for Mass Effect, which again, even the DLC for Mass Effect 3 was good. I wouldn't have them make a full game unless they were part of a huge team.
01:07:07
Speaker
So I don't know, it'd feel like it's something they would try and then realize, Oh God, we can't do this. I don't know. Maybe I'm just being really mean. Sorry if any developers are listening. and um I'm saying true. Cause it's the initial plan. So I think maybe with all good intents, they wanted to do it. So I'm going to say true. Cause it sounds like the sort of thing they say, Hey, bigger, a better, bolder, let's do this. And then they say, but we've got no one that can do that. Okay. Let's just scrap that. I just had a thought I'm leading towards true as well. Not just cause I agree with what Dan said, but also Andromeda was done on the frostbite engine. It wasn't done on unreal. And I guess originally the idea was, oh, let's do bigger, better, new engine, new possibilities. And then they realized that the Frostbite engine is made for shooters, not RPGs. Again, I think they ran into the same problem with Inquisition, Dragon Age, was that we want to do big, huge things, but we can't because the software is not made for that. So I'm going to say true. Like they want you to do it, but they couldn't because they realized that the engine couldn't do it. I think, because it says the initial plan, so my vote is true. Yeah, I'm going for true too. Could be false though, Marie. show You sure you don't want false? I think you were thinking false. I think you were thinking false, Marie. When are you gone?
01:08:12
Speaker
Yeah, let's just say there's a reason why the new Dragon Age and the next Mass Effect is being done in Unreal Engine, because it can handle RPGs. Right, are you ready for the final question, which is probably going to decide who's going to be the winner for this one? No, it's already me being, what's the word? Contrary, earlier on it's done that, so...
01:08:32
Speaker
ah final question for this round. The initial reactions to the game were so bad that a few fans, cosplaying as Mass Effect characters, protested outside of Bioware Studios with signs such as, our faces are tired of you and Shepard didn't die for this. Right, there's something I need to confess to you guys. It was you.
01:08:56
Speaker
Yeah, I got really mad. You know me, I love a good protest. Okay, to be honest, that does sound true. I mean, I... Yeah, it's 100% true. Maybe not to the point of protesting, but there are definitely petitions of about. I mean, I remember of this coming out and yeah, I was very disappointed as well. So, yeah. I remember the petitions and I remember the anger online. I actually think I remember those slogans. Obviously memory does funny things, but I think this is 100% true. In fact, I think I remember the articles. Or Satsu just has a Mandela effect on us. Possibly, possibly, possibly. Which is why you should probably say false. Yeah, the Shatsu effect. Oh, I don't know. I mean, the basement dwellers do crazy things, so... Whoa, I'm pretty worried. You're really upset in the fanbase right now. Actually, I was about to say, actually, they never leave the basement. The nerds, they don't left. Well, they do, to do their push-up challenges, which I know they can absolutely do, unlike you, but... yeah
01:09:55
Speaker
well Do you want to have a push-up contest, Dan? No, no, I'm saying it's a wider audience that, you know, we're obviously keeping on side. that's Vega didn't die for this as they do their push-ups. Part of me, this does sound so ridiculous. Oh, there's worse things that have happened. Oh, God, yeah. I'm sure Dan did an episode on fan reactions, and if you haven't, it's a topic you definitely want to look into. Sorry Luke, all I was going to say is if I didn't believe it or didn't remember at the start, I think it's that thing, the our faces are tired of you, I'm sure, I'm sure that rings a bell. I think it's the same, I'm sure I heard somebody say Shepard didn't die for this. I'm sure but outside of Bioware, I mean that sounds like something someone woman would just say on Reddit. Yeah.
01:10:34
Speaker
I'm going 100% true. 100% true. I'm sure there were protests online, but I'm leaning towards Marie in the idea of I don't think people would have gone as far as outside a bio. I feel like that would have been big news. I don't remember seeing that specifically, but I remember seeing the names and the slogans. It was 13 years ago or so, weren't it? Oh, well not long ago, was it? It was in 2017.
01:10:54
Speaker
I saw it, Andromeda, yeah, yeah, but no, I am, i think I think it's true. Don't forget, it only takes one person to do it with two people. Yeah. 100% true. Right, you two go false. Don't get the point. I'll gladly take the point. I'm gonna go false. ah Give me the points, that's it, come on. Same, I'm gonna go false. No, that's fine. That's it. That's what's won me the game. Well, no, there's still the bonus round. No, the bonus is just for fun afterwards. There's got to be a clear winner.
01:11:18
Speaker
He called it before the game, he called it a tiebreaker. There's only a tiebreaker if you're level. True. Do you know, I'm the least competitive person, but I love talking a good game and I i think I'm talking it, right? 100% true. No, no, this is coming from the guy who was just like, I'm happy taking third place and now he's just like, fail, fail. 100% true. Let's get to the victory fanfare, come on. There's blood in the water, he can smell it.
01:11:41
Speaker
I like that Satsu's just sitting back and letting us tear each other apart. Satsu, if you wanted to do a big tree thing, I can record it after. Are you still there? Have you just left? Sorry, I went out to make some tea. What were you guys saying? True, false, false, okay.

Quiz Review and Discussions

01:11:59
Speaker
And yeah, by that sound, of course, the round is over. So, question one, was Ryder supposed to be Shepard's long lost brother? Voice by Danny DeVito? Okay, I made up that about last part. That is unfortunately false. Damn it! Yeah, there was no plans as far as I know for Ryder to be one of Shepard's long lost relatives. For the second one, that is true.
01:12:27
Speaker
Apparently the areas were named after not only explorers from human history, but there were a couple of like saladians, batarians apparently thrown in there. I know very weird, but I like that. That's cute. Yeah, it was a nice Easter egg. Number three, talking about the Shifty Space Cow 2.0. Unfortunately, yeah, it's false. Yeah. There's no shift to space cows in Andromeda. Question four about the procedurally generated biomes and things. That is true, apparently.
01:13:00
Speaker
I'm on for a clean sweep with this final answer, which is 100% true. Yeah, apparently it was meant to be very similar to, well, pre-launch No Man's Sky. It was supposed to be very similar to that. And as you said, Luke, because of the B team taking the helm with this one, yeah, unfortunately they couldn't really realise that. But personally, I think that would have probably caused more issues than Yeah, so good call from their part. And last one, Dan, I'm sorry, I'm going to have to take the one down your stables. So about the cosplaying protesters, now these slogans probably, I mean, I just thought of them off the top of my head and they could have very well been on the internet, but yeah, it's false. Haha! Hey, suck it, nerd. That means me and Dan are still tied, right? Yep, you're all still tied.
01:13:56
Speaker
Let's bring that tiebreaker out, it feels like we need it. This isn't it internet now, it's getting serious now. Yeah, I can't believe this. Yeah, you've all got 13, so... Wow. Serves me right for being so one direction there, trying to get you all to stay true on that last one. So, final or five questions. Number one, E.J. is a Mass Effect one. True. True. You don't have to speed through all that. You could take your time. I was wondering what was going on there. I was i was waiting for Dan. I was like, E.N. said true. Well, I was expecting someone to say because. I mean, I know the reason, but I don't want to give away all the answers. Yes. Number two, Shepard's male appearance is actually based off of his voice actor, Mark Mir. I think this is true because they based the likeness of the rider twins from Andromeda on their voice actors, even though they did the female voice actor dirty with how they made her character look just saying, because she's gorgeous in real life and she looks like a toad in the game.
01:14:52
Speaker
Jiminy. Google what the voice actress looks like in real life. She's gorgeous, right? And then you look how they did a dirty in the games and you're like, where did you say go wrong? Well, they watch London the levels clearly. I'm saying false for this. I think I'm going to go. I mean, they did it with Miranda. I mean, she's the carbon clone. Oh, God. Male chef. He looks just like a generic butch guy. I'm going to go with false. My look was confident, though. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think male ship looks like anyone. Have you seen Mark May? To be honest, I haven't. He does look like him. I want to Google it now. No, I'm just messing around. I'm just messing around, it's fine. Let's ship it in the cart now, that is. Yeah, I'm gonna go with pause. Number three, the voice of the catalyst in Mass Effect 3 is both voiced by male and female ship.
01:15:39
Speaker
Are you talking about the annoying little kid that we have to chase around? Starchild. It has a name? Yeah, that's what a fandom calls him, Starchild. I just call him the annoying kid that should have died.
01:15:51
Speaker
I hate that dream sequence so, so, so much. What did you say? Voice buff by? Male and female ship. Eh, it does sound kind of weird. I feel like I've heard this because they wanted to make the character neutral. So they did both male and female voices together, but I can't remember it being the two, male and female. I literally played this last month. I can give you the answer. I want these two to go first and then I think I should get a bonus point for my answer. Why? Give your answers first and then I'll give mine. Oh, I'm not sure. I literally played this last month. I'm replaying the conversation in my head at the moment that you have with him. And I'm trying to think of like moments, but then again, clever editing in the sound studio, sound mixing and that. I'm going to go false. I mean, it doesn't sound normal. So I think I'm going to go true. Is that your final answer?
01:16:35
Speaker
Yeah, I need to think about shooting. him Well, actually throwing a sustainable break at him, but yeah hold I mean, it it would be a fun little like Easter egg. So I feel like it's true. All right. I'm going to say this one. I am confident in saying it's 100% true. And for the bonus point, it's also got the voice of the kid on the start of the game. So it's male Shep, fem Shep, the kid and Morgan as well. I think I may have heard something about these shows in there.
01:17:01
Speaker
Because that's what I always like about me, because you know everyone always says that Femme Shep is the best one to play, and I love his response, he's like, I don't mind if you play as Femme Shep, because you'll always hear his voice, because I think he's the vulture as well, and he's in the catalyst, so he goes, you can't escape his voice, so I'm sure the listeners will say that at a certain point, but 100% true.
01:17:19
Speaker
I mean for a bonus point I can tell you why ED is in Mass Effect 1 if we're playing it like that. No, you missed your chance. Sorry, that's not how it works. Question 4. During a Cerberus side mission in Mass Effect 1, it is possible to meet Jacob, albeit as an NPC. Why would you want to? That's not the question, Dan.
01:17:39
Speaker
Did I end up killing him? He's got a point though. During a server aside mission, I mean there's only one server aside mission. But I'll be honest, they all look generic in Mass Effect 1, don't they? Anybody who's not a mainline character. So you wouldn't even be able to tell if you did. I'm going false. Yeah, ah me too. I think it's false. I reckon it could be something about him, but I don't think you run into him. It's a false story, yeah. Because he was part of the Alliance. Anyway, go ahead. Last one. There were once plans to include Mass Effect toys and Happy Meals between Mass Effect 2 and 3, but this was ultimately scrapped. I don't like McDonald's, but I would definitely get that if that was the case, because I would be there all the time. I'd be like, I've already got the Morden doll. I want the Garris doll. I know you have it back there. We're big Mass Effect fans.
01:18:26
Speaker
But once again, i'm I'm looking through this through marketing brain. That wouldn't be a smart move. Isn't Mass Effect like at least a 15 anyway? I don't think that's ever stopped them before though. I'm sure I've seen like things in toys in Happy Meals that are like for older things. Oh dad yeah yeah that I don't know. I'd love it to be true because again it'd be nice to have a Mass Effect toy and have the whole collection. I wouldn't say McDonald's in this case. I probably would have said Burger King because that sounds more plausible to me. I know it sounds silly to say but I would say that's more of a Burger King thing but i yeah I never heard anything like that so I'm sticking with false. I'm going to say false mainly because I don't recall it, but I wouldn't have been buying Happy Meal then. But I also, again, it just that so it's one of those weird things you come onto that episode. I don't recall seeing anything like that about game times either. Whereas, you know, I could tell you for a fact there was a KFC James Bond tie, but I don't recall seeing Mass Effect Happy Meal toys. So i'm I'm saying false. Yeah, me too. From a marketing brain, it doesn't make sense. I wish there were still Happy Meal toys. There still are. They just don't give them to you. I know, but like they're not as good as there was when we were younger. It's like, remember when you used to get toys and you like your crisp packets and you used to get toys in your cereal boxes? it Those are the days. Yeah. I still remember when X2 came out, X-Men 2, and you could get the dog tacks. Yes, I still have one.
01:19:43
Speaker
Oh, my parents are not sentimental and they probably throw them out. Oh, me and my brother fought so hard to get, uh, get Hold Green. I had the Song Clops one. Yes. That was the most common one. And then like, I think I got Wolverine and my brother was furious at me. And then when Revenge of the Sith came out, you could get lightsabers. Yes. I had one of those too. It was a little spoon. The spoon, but also the toy, you know, when with the ball where you were like the maze toy. Yes. I had last cereal as a kid. Oh, bring back cereal toys. Dan, topic for the podcast.
01:20:11
Speaker
this should be This should be such a good topic. Top 10 cereal toys. I think we mentioned this a few times about like how you would buy the cereal. Sorry Satsy, we're really on topic now, aren't we? most You wouldn't eat the cereal. It was the only reason, you know, your mum was like, are you sure you're going to eat it? Yeah, it's my favorite. It's my favorite. Then you would tip out the whole cereal because the toy wouldn't be it would be in the middle. And then it's like, yeah, no, I don't want the cereal.
01:20:37
Speaker
Also, do you remember back, back, back in the day when there were used to be DVDs in the cereal? Yeah. Oh, Golden Age.

Quiz Results and Conclusions

01:20:46
Speaker
We had a good childhood. Anyway, so something about Mass Effect. I feel like we were talking about Mass Effect at some point. I don't know. I'm getting very hungry right now. We just found out we had a lot of cereal as kids, you know. Oh, we didn't. We just wanted the toys, Luke. Oh, and that as well, yeah.
01:21:06
Speaker
by that sound, we have indeed reached the end of the quiz. So question one, Edie is a Mass Effect. Yes, that is true. Yep. She was on the moon. She was indeed. Number two, Shepherd's male appearance is actually based off the voice actor Mark Meyer. That is false. Yeah. As far as I remember, it's a Dutch model that he's based off of. But the funny thing about actually, is that he wants nothing to do with Mass Effect. Oh really? That's a bit strange. Yeah, now apparently they modelled MailShep after him and he just does not want to do anything. I think they asked him at one point to turn up to conventions and the armour and everything. He has got no intentions of doing that, which it is a shame. Imagine being a Dutch Mass Effect fan walking down the street, you see Shepard walk past you like, what? He's like, no it's not me! Not me. So question three, the voice of the catalyst in Mass Effect 3 is both male and female shit. That is correct, that is true. wo Apparently they did some spicy audio mix in there to have both of the voices in. Number four, during a server-side mission in Mass Effect 1, it's possible to meet Jacob. Of course, Dan, why would you? As indeed false. And last but certainly not least, there were plans to include Mass Effect toys and Happy Meals. That is of course false as well. So looking at the tally, that brings Dan to 18, Luke to 16, and Marie to 18.
01:22:37
Speaker
I'll gladly, I'll gladly share this with you, Marie. I think that's a beautiful moment. Or do you want one more? I think they should both do a tieback. How competitive are you Marie? Because I'm happy to share it. I'm just putting it out there. I think it's a beautiful moment. It's like golden balls all over again. It's a beautiful moment in podcasting history here. Yeah, to be honest, I like to keep our friendship.
01:22:59
Speaker
Yeah, I respect that.

Future Projects and Farewells

01:23:01
Speaker
It does generally feel like an episode of Golden Balls, if anyone remember that show here in the UK, about that epic steal. We all remember it. They showed their true colors on that. Definitely. That's all I'll say. Yeah, but this is... We're the Podpack here. We don't do that. Really brilliant challenge. Luke also a brilliant challenge. Let's go in peace to the rest of the galaxy now. What's the question, Sassy?
01:23:22
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No, no, I'm happy. I'm happy to leave it if Marie is. But what would the question be just out of curiosity? I was actually going to ask you one trivia question and I was going to see which one of you could get it the fastest. Oh, I suck at those. Yeah, just for fun. let Just for fun to do it. Just a lucky day. We're happy being tied. Absolutely. For first place. So who was the voice of the stargazer at the end of Mass Effect 3? So you know, yep. Whoa, Jesus Christ. It was Buzz Aldrin. Bingo. Was it? Yep. Oh, I didn't know that one. So I would've lost. Marie, would you have known that? To be honest, I wouldn't have. I don't know why, but my brain went to Orson Welles for some other reason. I'm like, no, he died way before then. But it didn't matter, Marie. We we share this. So I'll keep the award Monday to Wednesday. You can have it Thursday to Sunday. Will it be in my cereal? You have to dig for it, though. No, you won't just get it straight away. Satsui, thank you. It's been brilliant. It's been a pleasure, it says. Oh, no problem. And thank you all for yeah taking part in this. And as I said, the finale of Mass Effect Month, the finale of season four of Chatsunami and the 200th episode of Chatsunami. Well, it's been an absolute blast recording this episode. And honestly, I can't wait to go back and re-listen to it. Yeah, I don't envy you in the editing room at the moment. And I'll see you this this, though. Thank you all so much for yeah coming on. And not even just that, but as the Podpack collective has done, of course, you pointed out coming together and and doing this month with me because it's been an absolute blast just working with you guys both outside of Mass Effect Month and, of course, on Mass Effect Month as a whole. So, yeah, thank you, guys. It was a pleasure.
01:25:04
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Yeah, thank you so much. And just a huge, huge congratulations for reaching 200 episodes. I mean, that is just yeah an amazing achievement. I say this every time I'm on here, but you're the absolute goat of indie podcasting. Wow, he's one of a panda book.
01:25:21
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What I've caught with me, what I've caught with me, depends. But no, and I don't want to say thank you guys so much though. I'd love to do something like this again. Whatever next year's month or topic is, if we do all come together again, it would be fantastic to do something like this again. Or even just in general. I think it's a lot of fun to do these sort of quizzes with friends. And I'd like the exact same questions please, Setsi. Yeah.
01:25:42
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okay My paypal is knocking. Right, who can we bully next? Let's bully Dan to watch anime. Studio Ghibli. Well no, well I've already made so who play a few other games that I think he's doing a month next year, so we'll meet around here for that one. A shocking one of the bio variety of course. I don't know, I see what you did there. yeah I'm gonna have to be reading a lot of Huxley, semi-Huxley. Anne Rand. Anne Rand. They're shrugged. Because I've been wanting to get that. Satsui, you're losing the room again. But yeah, I've wanted to read that for such a long time, but it's over a thousand pages, I think, isn't it? but Oh yeah, it's long. I've read Les Miserables and I know how long of a book and dry they can be. Fucking hell. You really are the gingerbread quorum. I am, Anne.
01:26:29
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it so to so we had that time and we had the tiebreak here I love the musical as well. I mean I'm not disputing it but the reason is like it's such a big book because back then you were paid per the page so he made it purposely wrong. Yeah there's two chapters just on the French sewer network. Exactly it's not edited at all I just thought why would you put yourself through that? It's a good book. I mean for the money as well but um I meant reading it. and It took me months, but it's a good book. But on that note, next year we are going to be doing Les Mis month. Well actually, musical month, that would be a good month. I would love musical month. Moulin Rouge, Sweeney Todd, I'm here for it. Oh no, modern musicals, Hamilton, Hadestown, Hedwig and the Angry Inch. We can do classics as well, but I don't know. Les Mis.
01:27:19
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But yeah, thank you all so much for taking part in this episode and as always listeners at home, please, please, please reach out to us. Tell us how you did. Did you beat the scores of Damn Looking Mary? You probably did. Probably, probably. My co-host Andrew is probably rubbing his hand right now going, ah, I did it. I finally won a trivia episode. But yeah, on that note, before we wrap up, I'm going to just go in the order of when you guessed it on Mass Effect Month just to keep it fair. So look, First of all, thank you for coming on. and Where can these lovely listeners find your content? Well, it's been an absolute pleasure chat, Sue, so thank you very, very much for having me on. You can find me at the Nerdstagit podcast. I'm on all platforms apart from Apple. You can find me on Twitter at nerdstagit.com, you can find me on YouTube as a Nerdstagit podcast, and same on Spotify. And Mary, where can these lovely listeners find your content? Well, I've got a podcast called Two Girls One Reusable Cup, and we don't teach you how to fight Reapers, but we do teach you how to fight climate change. And you can find us on wherever you get your podcasts, Spotify, Apple podcasts, and you can follow us at Two Girls One Reusable Cup on Twitter and Instagram. And then you can follow me personally on all the social medias at Life on Mars. And last but certainly not least, Dan, where can they find you? Sorry, before I say that, I just need to remember now, next month I need to go on the first one. so Yes, so I don't get Libra. You can... You can... You can... Don't make us push you out of an airlock again. You're just right in there for a musical one. I don't care, I've never seen Hamilton. I sure have. As long as you've got me on for Hamilton 1, that's all I care.
01:29:03
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There was a second time! So I'm Dan from Casting Views. You can find me across all podcast platforms and social media at Casting Views or search for Casting Views on all of those. And if you want to check out more episodes from ourselves as well as our fantastic episodes from Mass Effect Month, you can indeed check us out on our website, Chatsunami.com, as well as all good podcast apps. I also want to give a huge shout out to our Pandora and Patrons, robotic battle posters and Sonya, thank you so much for supporting the show. But if you would also like exclusive content, early access, even behind the scenes content and some bloopers from this month, then you can indeed check us out at patreon dot.com forward slash chat tsunami. But until next time, thank you all so so much for listening. Stay safe, stay awesome and most importantly, do you want to all say it at the same time?
01:29:54
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Stay hydrated. Oh, I'm already hydrated. I think we found a blooper for your Patreon, Satsi. Let's do it on three. Go on, Satsi. Okay. One, two, three. Stay hydrated. That was awful, guys. Wrap it up. We're going home.