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Presented by the F.U.E.L. Sports Network it's The NC Report
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Don Glenn and Russ Robinson talk about Conference realignment, Coaching changes the New playoff system and highlight a few top 25 matchups.
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Introduction to Fuel Sports and Hosts
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Ladies and gentlemen, I've got a couple questions for you. Do you love college sports as much as I do? Are you always wondering where you can find the latest NCAA reports? Where you've come to the right place? Welcome, sports fans, to Fuel Sports Presents, the NCAA report with Don and Russ.
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The moment you've all been waiting for here, they are your favorite hosts, Don Glenn and Russ
Preview of Upcoming College Football Season
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Robinson. All right. Thank you, Devin Tynan for that introduction. And as he said, this is the NCAA airport, a new and revised version, but still the old guys here. It's me, Don Glenn and my partner, Russ Robinson. How you doing tonight, Russ?
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Well, I'm doing fine, Don. I'm looking forward to the start of the season, football season on starts for me on Thursday night when Mizzou plays ah Murray State. So I'm looking forward to that, but I'm looking forward to seeing the other games too. So. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I think Illinois starts Thursday night as well. They've got, they're going up against Eastern Illinois.
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um So yeah, yeah what the yeah format of the show is going to change from a little bit like we've done in the past.
Show Format Changes
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We're not going to concentrate. at We're still, we'll still look at at the our respective ah ah home conferences, but we are going to focus a little bit more national attention and we're going to do a few different things here that we haven't done in the past. So. ah Welcome to season one and episode one of the new and improved NCAA report by the fuel sports network at the fuel
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Almost made that a mistake there. All righty. Well, let's get started here. Um, I think the biggest thing is the big change that's, that's happened just since last year.
PAC-12 TV Deal Fallout
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And that is the demise of the PAC 12.
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um It started because they could not after the big 10 and the SEC got their multi-million dollar multi-year TV packages or I guess multi-billion dollar really.
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um the Pac-12 could not come up with one. I mean, Larry Scott, ah the former commissioner stated that they would be able to ride the waves, and this is like five years ago, that they would be able to ride the waves of media and adapt and adjust. He was not there when they negotiated this contract and the incoming commissioner, George kill of kill of kill of cough ah was not able to get a decent deal done. And then you saw the big 10 struck first taking ah USC UCLA. Then I think was it the the big 12 that got a few schools before Oregon and Washington left? ah Yeah, they they yeah I think they got they took Colorado went back to the big 12.
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Right. Utah, Arizona, and Arizona State all. They all split to the big 12. Right. yeah And then the ACC in there took Stanford and Cal. Stanford and Cal. Uh-huh. Yeah. And then the big 10 said, OK, we'll take two others. So Washington network and Oregon are now part of the big 10. It does leave Washington State, Oregon State with a very empty ski ah hole. And I did see somewhere with some um I don't know if he's a sports writer or what, but saw it on the internet where they, a question was asked, will the Pac-12 survive? and And he did predict it would come back, but it obviously will not be a power five conference of any kind. You don't have enough marquee draw, I don't think, to make that a power five conference again. Wait, I'm sorry, Don, which conference were you talking about? Pac-12. To make it a power five? Yeah. Oh, the Pac-12. Well, no.
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I mean, they're down to two schools and most of the speculation seems to be eventually a merger with the Mountain West, but it was some sort of deal with the Mountain West. I think that's all I've heard about it.
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Yeah, I think that's the schedule. they do have but i And they do have a TV contract with the CW, I believe. So those two schools are going to be on TV every week. So there you go. There you go. i Yeah, i I have heard that one as well. but And I think they're scheduled this year is going to include a lot of Mountain West and sunbe Sunbelt schools.
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They were able to get some extra, you know, from that there, I guess they're just trying to keep it close for, uh, um, monetary sake so they can, because, you know, they don't have that. They don't have a conference back in them as far as extra money goes and stuff like that. So, um, but.
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The question becomes then as as we were talking, what does that do? I mean, it gives the big 10 18. It gives the ACC 18 teams. It gives the pack 12 and SEC both 16 teams.
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No, I packed 12. You mean big 12 or big 12? I'm sorry. Big 12. Yeah, I lost Canada. Yeah, it's that's that sounds about right. Is the ACC just 18 teams? They end up with more than I think it's some you SMU is coming over at some point in time. Oh yeah. Oh really? I hadn't heard that one. Yeah, they yeah they they put they made a deal with the ACC and it's they're not a members yet.
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with the ac Yeah, with the ACC, they're not members yet, but they have got some sort of deal down the road. They are going to be coming in. I think SMU has some work to do, upgrade their program, get into the ACC, wanted them to do some upgrades, something like that. But it's a few years down the road. But yeah, so that might be what I'm thinking 19 teams, that might be what I'm thinking about. because yeah i got yeah what i tend to go I heard that report that the ACC wasn't done, but I but i didn't know if they were going to do a 19th team and just let it let it hang or or what.
SEC Changes and Coaching Shifts
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um right so okay we'll start with Since you know the SEC, we'll start with them first. you know Now you've got the two new teams of Oklahoma and Texas.
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um you know how does that shake up the hierarchy? and you know And we'll get to this later in the show, but you've also got the coaching change ah at Alabama and at Texas A and&M. So how does that all change the landscape now in the SEC?
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Well, I think that's an interesting question, Don. I don't think everyone knows for sure. Is Steve Sarcasian at Texas? I mean, is he ready to move Texas into the level that Georgia and Alabama has been at for several years? ah So i think I think it will. I mean, it makes it to two major football programs coming into the to the conference. I'm not sure how good Oklahoma is supposed to be this year. But you know in the long run, it it will have a big impact. It just makes it a tougher conference to get through.
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ah depending, really, this year depends on how the ah how your schedule falls, you know, which teams you get, you know, everybody wants to play Vanderbilt. So you got Vanderbilt, you got a Berkeley. Yeah. And no one wants no one probably wants to play Texas or wants to play Georgia or play Alabama. if They don't think and avoid it. But just depends on your schedule. Also, you know, those two teams are a big addition. In fact,
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Greg Sankey, the SEC commissioner, when it was came up about maybe answering the big 10, getting a up to 18 teams, would they, excuse me, Don, something went off here.
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ah
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He said that it's going to hold pat right now. So they want to see how those teams incorporate before they start. You know, there's been so much speculation in in the last year about Florida State and Clemson maybe jumping over.
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Uh, you know, at some point, but, uh, you know, they're not ready to take anyone in yet. That doesn't mean they won't, you know, so right it's going to be a tougher conference. come down It's going to be a tougher conference. don't Yeah. Now the other, the other conference that only took in two teams was, was the ACC. Um,
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And I was kind of, I was kind of surprised that they went that far West to grab two teams. And unless they were just capitalizing on the moment, it's as, as it were, um, I, you know, cause Stanford has. Oh, so at some times during the years, during a few years, they've had some decent programs over there. Football wise, uh, Cal really.
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There's outside of a couple of years. They've always just been a middle of the road team, so I'm not sure how that other than the fact that they are getting a West Coast presence. um Media wise, I'm not sure how that was is was beneficial to the ACC. Well, I'm still in to be honest with you done. I'm still mystified a little bit and I guess.
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the numbers must work out the big team wouldn't do it. Washington and Washington State and UCLA and the USC can fly across the country and play Penn State or or someone like that or even Ohio State or something like that. It just seems on me that's an awful costly trip. so a lot of flying around, but they are major programs. ah the whole The whole thing about the Pac-Trump moving east, so many of those schools, but yeah, Stanford and Cal, doesn't seem to be the same on the same level that you would think Ohio's. Washington and Oregon are USC, UCLA, as far as money coming in, right that they can afford to do that. But I guess you know Stanford and Cal are both schools with a lot of smart people.
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so they must have put the they must have put something to the uh they must have it figured out that they're going to make they're going to come out ahead on this deal so uh because cause the ACC how how far east do they have they i see they've got do they come that i don't know know how far east they come are they ACC yeah do they come east of yeah the ACC oh yeah the ACC is uh used to be primarily a coastal league until recent and years, but they have, a you know, they have added oh over the years, and I'm just looking at them right now, Pitt, who wasn't a traditional member, ah Miami of Florida, ah Louisville,
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ah I thought Syracuse was a member. Syracuse is, yes. yeah So that's some of the schools have come on recently that are now part of the ACC. But they're primary east, so having Stanford and college, that's quite a leap for them, but geographically-wise. And like I said, I just wonder how the numbers work on that as far as those trips, but they must know what they're doing.
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you know Well, they must have something going for them. I, you know, cause like you said, I'm agreeing with you. That is a, a long haul for those two schools. And like you said, they don't have the purse strings that a USC or a Washington, a UCLA, or even an Oregon have to, and, you know, and, and for them, and again, they're, they're going all the way to the East coast. I mean, and unlike the.
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The big 10 that, that the, the other four schools joined, you know, we, they've got some schools over there with, with, uh, Nebraska and Iowa, um, you know, Minnesota that said it's not quite all the way in, in ah the large collection of the Midwest with Illinois, Indiana, which Wisconsin. So there's not as huge a trip, uh, until they're going to Maryland and, and grutgers um,
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but I guess you were only gonna have to make those trips once or once or twice every three or four years. So, you know, maybe- Well, you're talking about, paul you're talking about non-revenue sports too. You're talking about volleyball. You know, you're talking about track. You know, someone's got to write those checks to get those yeah unless people over there, but it it is it is a interesting.
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It's an interesting mix for the for the ACC to take those two schools in. But like I said, in those schools, there's a lot of smart people, so they must know what they're doing. They had something coming and figured out. ahll We'll go back. We'll go to the the
Big Ten Expansion Impacts
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big 10. I think that the biggest thing with with what's happened with the four schools joining the big 10 is you know for the last you know many, many moons ago when I was a young kid, it was always referred to as the big two, little eight.
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Cause it was Michigan, Ohio state and everybody else. Um, you know, Penn state's kind of worked their way into the mix over the years. Um, you've had Wisconsin in and out of favor with, the with the big boys, but now you're bringing him Oregon and UCLA. You're bringing, you're bringing in some high for open, high profile programs that I.
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I don't, I'm not, I haven't heard any of this, but it would not surprise me any if in the next few years, if those programs continued to do what they've been doing over the years, you know, now you've got basically a conference of six, maybe eight schools, ah football wise anyway, that, um, are capable of winning that conference. And the rest of them are just going to sit there and draw on a paycheck.
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I mean, if you, if you get to think about it, um, so, I mean, the competition level went way up now in the big 10. I was talking to a couple of guys the other day, we were talking about Illinois and you know, uh, we've only, we, this year, Illinois only gets one of the, of those four that have come in, uh, Oregon's the only team they, they end up with.
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But you know we're thinking in the next couple, three years down the road as the schedule starts getting worked in more and more, you know now we're going to see a couple of those teams. And you know over the year over the last few years, we haven't had to worry about playing Ohio State. And this year, we've got mit Michigan on the on the docket. um So it's it's it's going to make that that road a little tougher for third year coach Brett Beelama. And we were talking about it. i'm like you know but if If it wasn't for Oregon coming in, if that was just another...
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You know, if that was a Purdue or a whoever, you know, I would say eight wins is a, was a probably good idea for this, for this team going forward eight to 10 wins should be expected from here on out. Um, but you know, now with that addition, I mean, a lot of people are really tempering ah their, their judgments on that. So I think the competition level is going to make, it's going to make the big 10, I think a more competitive conference to a certain extent, but then I think you're going to see a lot of have nots.
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and Well, I think one yeah, nothing like the SEC. Depending on what your team scales, because you've done away with divisions like the SEC has, it depends on what you draw the schedule, you know, so you could get a bad deal on the schedule. You really could just by the way things work out or you could, you know, it's feasible. A team could get, you know, end up with the. With the, you know, with the indianas or the You know, and I'm just guessing the of the world who, you know, the teams that aren't so good. Right. You know, so, I mean, you know, it just depends. Now, you used to, you know, when you were in a division, you every year you knew certain teams you're going to have to play every year. Right. And but it was just who you drew outside your division. Now, yeah it's really, it's really, it's your entire schedule.
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depends on now and how it falls. So yeah right that's just right just the way that things can change with ah without divisions in these two big conferences. Now the the big
Big 12 Transformation
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12, you and I talked a year or so ago ah when it was the talk of Texas leaving and Oklahoma left and at that time they were down to the state schools.
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Right. And then they started bringing into, you know, now they're at one time I had that conference scheduled for life support because it was going to be there. Yeah. And now they, with, with what they've added and, and, you know, people may poo poo the Arizona and the Utah and Colorado coming in, but you know,
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caught around in Utah programs that are on the move to me, uh, Arizona's always going to be a good program that they're going to have their bad years. Yeah. Um, you know, Arizona state, once they quit hiring, um, ex pro coaches, they might, they might be able to do something. i They've had a bad run over there, but I think, that I think that conference is going to be better for them than what they had in the PAC 12.
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Yeah, I think so. I think they were. I'm looking at their their road call there in that conference, and they've also got Brigham Young now in that conference to pick up. So I mean, that's a pretty big conference and you're right. um Colorado is an interesting team. a Should get some eyes on those Colorado games so as far as viewership in Arizona, and Arizona State. They're they're decent size program schools and Utah's very, has had a respectable program out there for years. So, I mean, ah they were a good ad, considering the teams they've lost in the last few years, you know, they they were a good ad. So, just see how this washes out for them. I don't see them doing divisions either. Don, I'm just looking at the at the
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at this the conference as it is now. And I guess they don't do de divisions either. They quit doing divisions some time ago before Texas and Oklahoma left. It looks like they haven't, they're not trying to do it. They also got Cincinnati. So I mean, they' but so that's a, de that's a decent looking conference. That's kind of their only oddball of Cincinnati. It's going to, well, no, they have West Virginia. They got West Virginia. They've got central Florida. They've got central Florida, which is a good,
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Yeah, that's a good program. That's usually Houston. Yeah, um I'm just looking at some ones that are outside have been outside that traditional big 12 schools, right? You know, that's that's some of the schools they've added. Yeah, yeah. So there, you know, so I mean, you know, and this this is definitely going to affect how the the new 12 team format in the playoffs run.
Playoff Format Changes
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Uh, because before it was the top five conferences.
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or the the the winners of the power fives got their, they got the top five spots and you know, the first four got to buy and all that kind of stuff. Well, you know, and now without the pack 12, it's down to the first four, the way I understand it recently is the first four spots are reserved for the power four conference winners.
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then everybody else will be just kind of shifted in their seating. So um ah like if if it was the the the top four right now in the top 25 are listed as ah ah depending on which one you talk to or which one you look at, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas, and Oregon. um So if Two of those are one of those is a big ten one of those so they can't be in the top four I think then they have to go down and get Florida State I think becomes third and then it would be like, Utah is the next Highest ranked team in the top 12 because that's what they have to go off of is that top 12 so then the winner or the leader of the group of five now, that's the Mountain West Sunbelt
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AAC, Mac, and Conference USA. The top dog out of all those schools gets an automatic bid, but they have to come in at wherever they're ranked. If they're ranked in the top 12, if they're not, they automatically go to the 12th spot. right but So if they're not ranked, somebody somebody in that top 12 is getting kicked out.
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It's usually the 11th and 12th team. That's why I've been seeing when people when they're speculating on the 12 teams that get in. Of course, one of those, like you said, there's come from the from the. What do they call it? The conference of five, whatever those group of group of five group of five? I'm sorry, yeah. And the people I've seen speculators at the 11th and 12th seed. Yeah, if they're if they're even there from the.
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from the power power for, I guess, as they call it now, that they're out. They would be out. Yeah. So I mean, it's imperative that it's imperative to be in the top 10. If you're a Missouri or if you're a Penn State or if you're a Utah or someone like LSU,
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Yeah. Uh, you need to be in the top 10, you need to be in the top 10. Yeah. That they yeah way decadeck makes you relatively safe at that point. Uh, you're, you're down in that 11 or 12. If, like I guess said, it depends again on the big 12 of how many, if who we, and this, I think will it may, I don't know, it will, do you think this will play a, a role in how teams are ranked now with knowing that.
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if that group of five leader is not in the top 12, somebody is getting left out. I mean, do you think you, I don't, I can't imagine it clouding guys minds, but we've seen that happen in the past. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think it could happen. Um, I remember last year when, when they were trying to figure out the, uh, you know, not the just the playoff teams, but what they call those, those next bowl games after the playoff teams, um,
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We're the top 12 teams. Oh, right yeah yeah. It's the, the, the, the new year's six be year six. year six. I remember sweating out Missouri a little bit because I thought, you know, if things fell wrong, a team that was below them, like if Louisville had won the ACC, they could boot out Missouri who at that time was 11th or 12th team, you know.
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So i you know those things could happen. So I know it it could happen the wrong if the wrong team wins their conference championship. and all these Even though they're done away with the division, all these conferences are going to have conference championship games. There are team wins that they could knock out someone who's maybe probably more deserving. Well, see, and and and, you know, and that's going to be the other thing too, is if you've got, you know, and let's just say that you end up with a, um, you know, in the rankings, it goes, um, Georgia, Ohio state and Texas and Oregon, and I think Alabama's fifth.
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Um, and let's just say that, you know, LSU who may be 17th, I think, or they're lower and in the, or maybe no, they're 11th. Anyway, let's say they, they play Georgia and play out of their minds and beat Georgia into conference championship. Well, now Georgia's got to come in as an at-large. So they've got automatically shift down to at least number five. That's the highest they could get would be a five seat.
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in in a you know And you talk about shaking up the rafters there. Yeah, yeah, it still could happen apart of these group of five school. One of them could could, you know, very well knock out a team that's deserving to be in there. Yeah. So yeah, depending on what happens with that for sure. Um, okay. We're going to take a little pause here and then we're going to come talk, come back and talk about some coaching changes. And we're going to take a look at some top 25 match-ups. So stay tuned and we will be right back.
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Coaching Changes Impact
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This is Don Glenn along with my partner Rush Robinson with the NCAA report presented by the Fuel Sports Network. And we talked a little bit about the new alignments in the conferences and the playoff schedule. There's also been a lot of alignment with coaching and been a number of new coaches everywhere. I don't think we don't really have time to go through all of them today. ah But we're going to hit some of the ones that we think are the are the big deal guys.
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um The big deal coaching changes that have happened over the last year. And I guess the first one, Russ, is probably the biggest one on many college football people's mind is the replacement of Nick Saban at Alabama. That is been tasked to Kalin DeBoer, who came from the University of Washington.
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Uh, he was 25 and three, uh, and, uh, and over the last couple of years or three years and has taken the Huskies, uh, go, of course, the last year's title game losing to Michigan. Uh, of course, he's also switching from a pack 12 school now to, uh, what I would consider, and I think most people consider probably, uh, one of the, one of the, or the most competitive conference in college football. Yeah. Yeah. It's ruined.
00:31:45
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You know, he's no doubt a good coach. He did what he did in Washington. ah But, you know, stepping into a legend's shoes and the guy that Saban, I think most people, maybe argumentatively, but most people could say that he was the greatest coach in college football.
00:32:05
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You know, he said I forgot six national championships in Alabama and one at LSU. Maybe maybe there's more than maybe I got that wrong, but that's somewhere in that vicinity. Yeah, oh you know, and you know, ah just the expectations he Alabama already had big expectations dating back to Bear Bryant and coaches who.
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didn't get up to bears to what they expected when they compared them to bear just didn't last long and the fan base gets very upset very very restless very easy and the last I forgot how many years Saban was there they've gotten used to winning and being in the national championship hunt ah Almost every year and even Saban when he didn't win the national championship, he drew some criticism from the fans. You know what's what's wrong? You know what's happening to our team? We lost. We lost the national championship game or we lost the SEC championship game or whatever, right? So I you know the war has big shoes to fill and he could do a good job there, but he may not. It may not be good enough for that fan base. I hope he went, you know, for him he needs to win probably at least 10 games this year.
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I think on on the regular season, right um if he will goes nine and three, I think you'll hear people start barking ah pretty loud. So he's he's in a tough situation. He's a good coach in a tough situation. ah you know We'll just see. It'll be interesting to see what happens there this year. It will be.
00:33:41
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No doubt about that. I know, I think, I think you're right. Uh, replacing a legend like, like Saban, you know, I mean, you go back and you think when bear Bryant was there and I think, uh, they had a coach or two and then Gene Stallings was there for a few years and he kind of, uh, people kind of liked what he was doing. And it seems like they'd been searching for that coach until Saban showed up.
00:34:03
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and uh you know so uh you know this is going to be like you said he's got all the big shoes to fill and and a lot of uh a lot of expectations for sure yeah another coach that is taking over for a legend if you will i mean he's pretty much a legend that uh at Michigan and that is Sharan Moore taking over for Jim Harbaugh, who is now the coach of the Chargers.
00:34:34
Speaker
um More, he was the, I think, offensive coordinator last year that took, yeah, the offensive coordinator that took over for um Harbaugh when he was on suspension. So he actually does have wins over Ohio state and Penn state. Um, but Michigan.
00:34:57
Speaker
They did lose a number of players after Harbaugh left that went to the NFL or they transferred out. Unlike Alabama, i but I was kind of shocked. Alabama didn't have a mass exodus or at least as big of the one as Michigan did. um And I think that's shown in her rankings a little bit because looking at the top 25 and we'll get to that later, um Michigan is like their ninth. So they're almost out of this. So I don't know if that's.
00:35:27
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You know, they're just saying, okay, we'll put them here and see where where they go. Uh, I think what Michigan is counting on is the fact that, yeah, more has been there. More knows the players. And like you said, like I said, he was, he's been part of that building process that Harbaugh's had over there. So I think he might, he might.
00:35:50
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uh, work out well, but you know, he's coming into a situation, uh, much like, uh, any of these new coaches and neither of those two conferences now, you know, you've got a new landscape, you know, you're you're not facing just the same 14 teams you had. Now you've got four of their teams that you've got to keep an eye on. Uh, and I'm not sure how many of those teams they get this year. I think they get, they either get, um,
00:36:21
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Washington and USC or UCLA and Oregon. I'm not sure who who they, I know they get two of them this year. Um, you know, plus the, the, the regular gauntlet they've got to run with Ohio state Penn state. Um, so, you know, he's under, he's, I don't think he may be as under as big a microscope given the new additions that a conference, but he's definitely going to be, I mean, they they are not the fans at Michigan are not going to, um, Give him a lot of slack to work with. Yeah, I'm not as familiar with the Michigan fan base. I am with Alabama because I've been an SEC person. I I hear I hear the Alabama fan base, and but but you know Jim Harbaugh I think was one of the. I think he's he was he was a great coach. I really do. I think he wanted Sanford. He wanted Stanford. He wanted the 49ers, got him to the Super Bowl, then win it.
00:37:18
Speaker
And then he went to Michigan and built that into a national championship program. And I don't know how, uh, what the Sean Moore, is that his name? Is that the guys? Yeah, that's his name. Yeah. The Sean Moore or no, I just don't know. Excuse me. Uh, Sharon Moore. Sharon more i'mron Moore. I'm sorry. you know it's It's awful big shoes to fill and, uh,
00:37:40
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And Harbaugh left some some messy situations behind him when he left. So I don't know if the NCAA is on their heels about that or not. if they're Since Harbaugh's gone, they're gonna let it go. I don't know. But here's an oddball thing. yeah Yeah, there's been some small- I think it's centered more on Harbaugh than Like you said, if they may let Michigan slide a little bit, but I think they're trying to try and, I think their their focus may be to to punish Harbaugh if they can, instead of the... Yeah, well, they're they're prompt they could attach a yeah ah show cause to Harbaugh if he came back to college. But, you know, I really think top assistants succeeding, a very good coach.
00:38:34
Speaker
A great coach and I think Harbaugh ranks as one college best coaches. That's that's that's done all. A lot of times it doesn't just work out now. Sometimes it does. You know you've you've um I can remember when I was go back to the days in Nebraska when Bob Devaney was the main. He was the head coach and one national national championship and Tom Osborne took over for him as top assistant. He took off, did a great job, but sometimes those.
00:39:02
Speaker
the number one assistant, sometimes they don't pick it up. You know, it doesn't work out so. um Because he hadn't been ahead coach, you know, so keeping the standard up. So you know, we'll see. Oh yeah, we'll see for sure. A couple of couple of other ones. Well, I think want I want to take a look at and it and one thing I want to mention though too is I find it is just interesting, interesting to me and and funny and in a way that the two teams that played for the national championship last last year.
00:39:32
Speaker
are both replacing their coaches. Yeah, yeah, and try it. It's it's funny, but this this is the way it goes. um So and speaking to those coaches, that they're bringing ah the ah the the boar who left Washington, the guy that's taken over for him is the former Arizona head coach. And this one, I don't know if I'm scratching my head because of
00:40:04
Speaker
whether he he's, he's, it it is a step up for him or whether he may not make that step up because, uh, Jed fish, who's been, uh, at Arizona for the last three years or four years, I guess. Anyway, he, he pushed the one level mark. Two years ago, last year they were 10 and three. So, and they beat Alabama, beat, uh, Oklahoma and the Alamo bowl, uh, by 14 points.
00:40:32
Speaker
So he's, he's stepping up in the ranks and taking over a Washington program that they just went to the national championship, you know, and it's going to be one of those questions. Is he ready? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you know, he did. That was one year turnaround at Arizona was pretty good. So, um,
00:40:56
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You know, Arizona's also program had a lot of problems, has a lot of problems, internal problems, and you might have been looking for a way to get out, and Washington gave them a way out. But i I think, you know, I don't know. I don't know. You know, Washington, I'm going to guess, is a more patient situation than maybe Alabama and Michigan. ah You know, so, you know, we'll just see.
00:41:24
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ah
00:41:27
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you know, Jen, I don't know where he came from. I don't know if he came from, uh, before Arizona, what his situation, where he was. I used, I did have that information, but I don't have it on me at the moment. Hang on a second. I can find it really quickly. Cause he's right here.
00:41:47
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do to do There he is. Uh, let's see. Yeah.
00:41:53
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it doesn't really I actually it doesn't really say where he where he was before Arizona. um But you know, he spent he spent it was a he was with the Patriots as a quarterback. Yeah, yeah, he comes in a long line of NFL in him. Right, right. So but you know, he went to Arizona did a good job. So, you know,
00:42:16
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You know, see, you know, just, it's just one of those things I, I, I suspect this, the string will be longer for him than it will be at maybe an Alabama or Michigan. Oh, for sure. But I, you know, I think maybe, again, it could be the other thing too. I mean, this could be a make or break for him.
00:42:33
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Um, because if you look at it, like you said, you know, the base string may be a little bit longer. He might have a little bit more rope, but that's just more rope to get himself hung if he's not careful. for Um, right you know, because <unk> you're coming off a national championship, you know, that fan base, even though you're changing coaches and even though maybe they've lost a few players themselves.
00:42:58
Speaker
they're not going to take not being in the mix and the at least in the playoff mix. And I think if he doesn't get him in the playoff mix, he's may have a hard road there for a year or two, especially now that they're in the big 10 and competing, <unk> recruiting wise, we're competing against a far heavier schools than they did in the PAC 12. Right. Right. So, um, another one that kind of,
00:43:27
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I don't know if I, again, if if I just struck my fancy because it's it's the big 10 conference or it just, just ah because, or not big 10 conference, new big 10 conference, or it's just because of who it is. But the Sean Foster is going to take over at UCLA. um And here here's a case of another guy switching schools and automatically going into a brand new conference.
00:43:53
Speaker
um And I find it, I find it odd that the reason Chip Kelly left was to take the offensive coordinator position at Ohio State. yeah Give up a head coach job for a coordinator job.
00:44:07
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Uh, I'm not sure what that says about UCLA at this point, but, uh, de Foster played, was a UCLA alum played, uh, 10 years in the NFL and spent the last 11 years coaching. Uh, he's had actually two different times with the, with the, uh, Bruins and had one stop at Texas tech. Um,
00:44:30
Speaker
he's you know He's been a wide receiver and running back coach, and ah the last few years our last ah a year or two, I guess he's been the coordinator over at UCLA. kind of Before that, he was more administrative than he was on the field. ah So I'm not sure how this coaching hire is going to work out.
00:44:50
Speaker
um You know, they're kind of, I think they're counting on him because he's an ah an alum, because he's a legend at UCLA. Um, that, you know, maybe that'll transfer into the, to the players and, and, um, it's going to be interesting. I mean, this could work out, uh, big time for UCLA, or it could be one of the biggest busts they have. And UCLA, UCLA's not what it was.
00:45:19
Speaker
when I was a kid. they just They've been going through the coaches and things like that ever since then. They've never living up to expectations. it's probably the internal I'm not an expert on UCLA football or sports, but it's probably an internal situation. you know Maybe they don't have the revenue. Maybe they're not you know they're not progressing on the facilities or whatever. After all, they're still playing in ah in the old Rose Bowl.
00:45:45
Speaker
right And, um you know, and that's not close to their campus. And most schools have stadiums on campus and things like that. I just don't, you know, I don't, I just don't hold it. And then going from the Pac-12, which was probably an easier football conference over to the big, big 10, I just don't see much, I don't see much but of an optimistic window for UCLA for the next few years.
00:46:12
Speaker
right and you know here's a here's another case where a couple schools switched coaches um as our I say switch coaches but uh Manny Diaz is now the new coach at Duke um and he's he was spent a couple years as the defensive coordinator at Penn State Went to Florida State, coached six seasons at NC State, six years at Miami. And he spent the final couple, three years there as the head coach. um He takes over a program that has made some strides over the last few years. um you know And he's staying in the in the ACC, going from Miami to to Duke. ah Can he continue the progress at Duke?
00:47:06
Speaker
Do you think? Well, we'll see. I mean, Duke's not historically, of course, as you know, a football school, right? And Mike Elko, who, you know, left for Texas A&M. Had a couple of good years there that left. I, you know. I think if Manny Diaz is looking to to um start over against that head coach, maybe that's as good a place as any. You know, you you know he might be able to.
00:47:34
Speaker
to to you know The expectations won't be too high. The Duke the Duke fan base football fan bases is. Is. Is not passionate, I don't think what they are for their basketball. Oh yeah, so yeah and that's a good without saying so you know I i think you know this is you know Steve Spurrier built his reputation at Duke 1st before he went to Florida and so ah yeah you know.
00:48:03
Speaker
Elko might be the next you know guy who built a reputation at Duke before he went on to bigger and better things. So we'll just see. um yeah but And speaking of Elko, you said he goes to Texas A and&M um and he was the defensive coordinator there um from 2018 to 2021 before he went to Duke. And now he's going back as the head coach.
00:48:27
Speaker
um that's kind of i don't That's kind of interesting hire. I mean, you do was that maybe in the works all along? you just He just needed more seasoning. So they let him go someplace else to do something, do that. And then this job would be waiting on you when when it comes available. Now, I think Jim O'Fisher was a guy they thought would take him to the promised land. And you know he won a national championship at Florida State. They paid him a lot of money. And they also gave him a guaranteed contract
00:48:58
Speaker
And I didn't think, and but they weren't happy with them. Jimbo had really one really good year. And then the rest of the years were just so, so, so they spent a lot of money to buy out that contract. So I don't think they were waiting for Mike Elko to get ready for the job. I think Mike Elko just is worked out and ah do and they went and grabbed them while they could, right you know, so.
00:49:23
Speaker
Elko's walking into a situation where he's replacing someone who ended up not being very popular and really in the Texas A&M eyes failed and that's a school that has goals, has high expectations. They have a big fan base, they have a lot of money, they have facilities and so they he's got a you know he' he'll get a year or two to get to get where they want him to get to but You know, they've gone through coaches too. You know, it's been a good process. They've had a coach that they've been happy with, so it's it's not and not since they've been in the SEC, you know. So anyway, right?
00:50:02
Speaker
OK, well, let's we'll finish this this first episode off. We'll kind of go some over some of the games coming up in what is now week one. um Considering week zero zero was already played, which what do you make of that Florida State Georgia Tech game that was played in in in Ireland? With Georgia Tech pulling the upset.
00:50:30
Speaker
i you know I was surprised, but you a Florida State last year you know fell on their face at the end of the year. And you know they they did go undefeated, but they went and played Georgia, and I forgot which bowl it was, and they just got walloped by Georgia. yeah So that wasn't a very good way for them to end the year. So I don't know what kind of residue left over that was when they played Georgia Tech.
00:50:55
Speaker
Georgia Tech just rose to the occasion you know to beat them. I can't believe they have better players or better, cuz I lived in Atlanta for several years. I know the Georgia Tech situation, it's it's not easy to recruit to Georgia Tech. And so I just think just everything was went right for them. So- Well, Florida yeah florida State, i you know one thing and I give ah kudos to Oh, can't the Georgia coach can't think of his name or I've thought like, well, I lost his name. Okay. Uh, Kirby's far. Yeah. He's one of the Georgia, Georgia, Georgia. He, he said after that game, you know, he pointed out that, you know, Florida state came to that it game missing 19 players.
00:51:42
Speaker
Yeah. That opted out or entered the transfer portal. And, you know, so, I mean, they went in, they were, ah they were underdogs to begin with, but they went in seriously outgunned in that game. I just, and you know, and then I think maybe I still lingering a little bit. Yeah. um yeah Well, the top 25 is out and AP has got, uh,
00:52:04
Speaker
I mentioned before, Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon, Texas is your top four. Alabama, Ole Miss, Notre Dame, Penn State, Michigan, and Florida State round out the top 10. Missouri is 11. Utah is 12. LSU is 13. Clemson 14. Tennessee 15. Oklahoma is 16. Oklahoma State is 17. K-State 18. Miami 19.
00:52:28
Speaker
Texas A and&M is 20. Arizona is 21. Kansas 22. USC 23. NC State 24. And number 25 is Iowa. um as would you would As one would think, a lot of big 10 SEC reference right in through there. um So um you know there's nothing really there shoots out as surprising to me. um I think maybe if anything, they may have Florida State a little high.
00:52:59
Speaker
Uh, and Tennessee, a little low, but then again, I don't know, I, you would probably know better about the Tennessee situation and I would. And some of the poll, a lot of the polls have Texas and Oregon flip-flopped. And I did see one that at Alabama as low as ninth, which shocked. Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:20
Speaker
Well, these these preseason polls are not really worth a lot because so much can happen over the season. oh yeah yeah you but you know i looked at I'm glancing at this. ah you know I don't argue too much with what they've got. you know um Georgia, that's that's that could very well be the best team in the country.
00:53:41
Speaker
Ohio State, you know, it's going to be good. So, you know, you go down through that top 10 list or top 15 lists. There's, you know, you might switch spaces spots with a couple of them, but it's, it's a pretty, it's a pretty logical top, you know, hide the head and yeah. Yeah. Okay. So big game. We got some, um, we got some top 25. Well, all top 25 teams are in play. Um, and, um,
00:54:07
Speaker
Something we're gonna do new here that we haven't done before is we're gonna give some
Betting Lines and Listener Caution
00:54:11
Speaker
of the bedding lines. Now Russ and I are gonna put out this disclaimer to start with right away. We know very little about how these bedding lines go, so we're pretty much just gonna do the basics. Do not use us as your your source for any type of gambling because Yeah. We are not experts and we're just kind of reading what everybody tells us. This also is being recorded on a Tuesday night. So by the time the games get here, though you, these odds may be all over the place. So, um, yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll lay that out as a disclaimer. So, um,
00:54:51
Speaker
First game I got here that is Georgia, who's as we just said, number one versus number 14 Clemson. the ah ah The spread on that is Georgia's favor by 13 and a half. And the over under is set at 48 and a half.
00:55:11
Speaker
um You know, that's kind of, for me, I mean, even though they've got Clemson ranked 14th, that still looks, seems like it may be a little, uh, a little low, both in the spread and the point and the, uh, over under. What do you think? Well, that's two touchdowns they give Georgia. Uh, boy, I know so little by clips and I know last year they didn't do what they thought they would do. And I think the question is, is double Sweeney.
00:55:42
Speaker
the Clemson program on the way down, you know, or is it on the way by or is he going to restore it back to a national contended team? I don't know, but if if you know if I was betting, I'm not a betting man, but if I was, I might take that. take that. um i take you gives immpressed Give the give the 13 and take Georgia. Yeah, I think I would too. At this point, as far as the over under, i That one, I would, I would almost have to bet the over cause I think Georgia can put points on the board still. So, uh, and if Clemson scores anything you've got, you know, you're, you're, you're going to be all right. Um, the next one that I think is, um, I don't want to say important because they're all these schools, all the games are important, but the one that another one that's interesting to me is number 20, Texas A and&M at home against, uh, what is it? Number seven Notre Dame.
00:56:42
Speaker
And believe it or not, Texas A and&M is favored by three. Yeah, that's a Texas A&M. Yeah, that shows you what kind of respect the betters, if the people who put this hat for Notre Dame. yeah the The people who put out the polls have more respect for Notre Dame than the people who who bet on these games.
00:57:08
Speaker
no You know, I was putting a lot of faith in Mike Elko to come out and make a big, big statement, but he's going to be at home. I guess that is it. I call it station. i'm I'm looking at Eddie. Yeah, that's that college station. Yeah. That's going to be 105,000 fans, pair of down Illinois. I've never felt, I've never.
00:57:29
Speaker
and I don't know about this Notre Dame coach if he's going to be the if he's the guy or not for him, but he's done OK so far. But so we'll see if I was betting on that. What is he? What's the what's the line on that? Again, that's Texas. I mean, yes, favored by three.
00:57:50
Speaker
You know, I might take that. I might give them three points. You know, I might give Notre Dame three points. like this yeah Give the points and it'd be a fun bet. yeah Yeah. I might go that way too, but I wouldn't bet much on it. i but Yeah. yeah ah brother we lack I'd probably be more inclined to bet the under on this game because it's the over under is 46 and a half.
00:58:12
Speaker
I, I mean, I'm like you, I don't see them. I mean, they could both score into the high twenties, but I, I'm, I'm not, I, I don't remember, uh, Notre Dame having that. I have an offense, a high powered offense.
00:58:29
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This was the horse race. I'd, I'd go to the $2 window and been on it. There you go. ah There you go. There you go. All right. Uh, another one that I think is kind of interesting is a number 19 Miami's at home against Florida and Miami's only two and a half point favorite. Uh, let me see. Let me look at that. I'm trying to pull that one out. That's Florida and Miami. Yeah.
00:58:57
Speaker
Florida's unranked Miami's 19 in Miami's. Well, there they are. Yeah. And they're giving Miami a two and a half points on that one. I tell you what Florida is. Oh yeah. Miami's two and a half points favorite, right? Right. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. I take Miami on that game because I've never been impressed with what what's going on in Florida with tag.
00:59:26
Speaker
the guys coaches there now, uh, you never know about these early games. What's going on? It could be the Georgia tech, Florida game, you know, Florida state game. So right you just don't know. The over unders if you force, go ahead. Yeah. If you put a gun to my head, I'd probably take Miami in that game. You know,
00:59:46
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Yeah, the over-under is 54. That's another one where I don't think either team is that high a parrot of an offense that I would put money on scoring more than 54 points in that game. So I would probably take the under on that. And I would probably, I may go different than you though. I may go ahead and and and take the points and and take Florida.
01:00:08
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Um, yeah you know, like you said, it's a pick him game. I may go opposite on that, but you know, yeah again, folks do not use us for your betting purposes. Uh, we have no, we have, yeah it's, it's, it's kind of like the Wizard of Oz. Pay no attention to that little man behind the screen. He know not what he does. So that is true then we have West Virginia is at home against Penn state. Penn state and and Penn state's coming in at eight and a half point favorite.
01:00:38
Speaker
I would think that'd be a little wider margin. Even though it's ah even though it's at West Virginia, I would have think that you give Penn State a little bit more credit than that. Yeah, I'm not sure why they don't. I don't know much about what West Virginia has to offer and this year, ah but Penn State. I've always been impressed with James Franklin. I know he's ah he can't beat Michigan or Ohio State when he beats everyone else and.
01:01:05
Speaker
So, you know, um I would, uh, once again, that's one of those things that they want. If someone says, give me a point, you can have Penn state. I would take, but I would take Penn state on that. Oh, yeah. Uh, I had no idea on the, on the over-under on that. If, uh, the, over well, the over-under is 51 and a half points and that boy, I don't know that one I'd almost stay away from but because I'm not sure which guy I'd go.
01:01:33
Speaker
Yeah, but I definitely would take, I definitely would take Penn State and give the eight for sure. Yeah. For sure on that one. All right. Well, Russ, we are about an hour into our first, uh, pod. So let's just, uh, we'll, uh, cut it short here.
01:01:53
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And, you know, because like I said, and and again, folks, this is a learning curve for us. It's something we haven't done that much of, um you know, and as it goes on, we may k start concentrating more on the top 25 or as we get later in the season, how the playoffs systems are going to run. But we'll definitely start. We'll definitely keep with having the news. We'll definitely highlight top 25 teams. We'll definitely highlight big matchups as we see them down the road.
01:02:22
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um So one, but a little quick thing. Um, Missouri win or lose to this weekend. Oh, they'll win. Okay. They're playing Murray state that way. Yeah. Okay.
01:02:35
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Well, I think, and I think Illinois Illinois handle Eastern, um, fairly well. I mean, that game I looked at there's no, there's not even any odds on that game. So but yeah they don't, they don't think too much of Eastern Illinois. I'll put it that way. Uh, so anyway, well, uh, for Rush Robinson and myself is Don Glenn from the NCAA report telling you not to forget to check out the fuel sports network at fuel sports network.com. You can also check it out on X at.
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01:03:36
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01:04:03
Speaker
FR-1957. um So that's where you can find me. You may find me floating around some of the Mizzou sports websites. oh If you, you know, if you look, if you look for fan groups on, yeah, if you look on some of the fan groups on on Facebook. So anyway, so that's where you can find me. Yep, same here. You can find me at, at on ah Twitter. T-S-O-T-B dot or T-S-O-T-B G-C-S.
01:04:32
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Um, or you can look me up at, uh, again, some of the Illinois websites and things of that nature. Also the, my Facebook page, uh, talking sports on the bleachers is up and running. Although me and me and Facebook book are having issues. So.
01:04:52
Speaker
We won't go into that. ah All right. Well, it's been fun, Russ, and we're going to do this again in two weeks. So folks, this is a going to be a bi-weekly or bi-monthly program. So in two weeks, Russ and I will be back with a new set of things to talk about. And we'll probably review some of the games that's happened and preview a few others. So until we see you again, stay safe, have fun.
01:05:20
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And we'll talk to you down the road on the NCAA Report.