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Katie Higgins: for you. Hello! Welcome back - Oh, wait, did I even turn mine on? You did. Yes. i did i guess i didn't know i did i know well you i believe you did It was up to him to set up the...
Katie Higgins: the situation today well I'm very grateful for it you've done a fantastic job and yes we are back which I think in the podcast world Oh, we've got a little freezing. It's fine.
Katie Higgins: Is it still, is the, is the audio part still going? okay Yeah, we're still on on audio. Okay, I'm just going to click it. to see if it'll... Oh, there we go. It went back. yeah Okay. So... I think in the podcast world, there's been no delays. But in reality...
Katie Higgins: You have been across the pond. And you are now back. And I like. cannot wait to hear all the things she's been saving some stories for me i have i gave her a small debrief Yes. Earlier. On the basics, the shopping, the things. I shared the the the shock value ones.
Katie Higgins: for Oh. Real time. Oh, I am so excited then for this. So welcome to episode eight of We Have Thoughts with Emily and Katie.
Katie Higgins: Welcome back, guys. Episode 8, where Emily is back from Paris. Back from Paris. Fantastic. Also. Take it away. We have had. Some listener comments. We have.
Katie Higgins: And um one of them was that maybe my audio isn't ringing out. nice and clear. So we're going to. These are going to be glued to our mouths today. I am going to do my best to not let my espresso martini get in my way. of my microphone oh i wonder if it's when we take a Take a beverage. It could take a drink, but here's what I'm going to, you know, this is just occurred to me.
Katie Higgins: This little situation where we just get together to have a cocktail catch -up, people are actually listening. I mean, we got a few listeners out there. We do. And I love that. And honestly, if it, for the rest, if it's.
Katie Higgins: To the five of you. I'm, I don't know. That might be generous. It might be underestimated. We don't know. but We love you. And thanks for coming to our cocktail catch up and may it its inspire you.
Katie Higgins: to set some sort of standing weekly date with a good friend. What do we call it? We call it a cocktail ketchup. Cocktail ketchup. That's what we called it. A standing weekly cocktail ketchup.
Katie Higgins: And you know, there's a beverage for every time of the day. Yeah. I don't know what day or time it is currently. You do not. You do not. She literally just landed last night, guys.
Katie Higgins: So, okay. ah So. I will set the stage. Perfect. Let's go. Okay. Well, real quick. ah We've got espresso martinis over here for her to keep her.
Katie Higgins: Peppy, but guys If you see me drinking out of a beer bottle in a minute... it's fall okay nancy wenzel no you didn't exactly you didn't see me nancy you did not see me Okay. All right. I cannot wait to hear all about it. I'm settling back so I can just listen. Okay. So last Friday.
Katie Higgins: We attempted a... a um a non -revenue passenger run to Europe. And at that time, we were thinking Italy, but not necessarily.
Katie Higgins: place specific. Okay. At that time. Well... as luck would have it. There was a hurricane. barreling down.
Katie Higgins: on the uh on flora i had no idea i say yes i i know i'm not saying that correctly but it's similar to that Isai. Something like that. it was It's like Isaiah's, but I know that's not how you pronounce it. Oh, interesting. Interesting. Okay. So it hit. I think Friday in Florida.
Katie Higgins: which meant that airplanes all along that seaboard Word. evacuating. Okay. So it was a major disruption. Gotcha. In the airline industry last Friday.
Katie Higgins: Which is just... Delightful. for everybody. Um. So you are doing a fantastic job. I i am like glow right on it. I'm.
Katie Higgins: do We take it direction well. I think this might be. better but i'm gonna keep the foam on listener feedback Let us know um so Sorry, I'll stop interrupting. so what we did justin comes to me now originally we were going to take a Lufthansa flight to either Frankfurt or Munich out of Houston.
Katie Higgins: and Okay? Okay. It's a great plan. I just love listening to her talk. Because do you want to know how I was going to pronounce that? Lufanza. Really? I don't know how to say it.
Katie Higgins: This is kind of... It's kind of familiar. Lufthansa Lufthansa Lufthansa Okay, keep going. I will stop interrupting. No, it's okay. are my drink because i feel like i'm gonna um not kill it or i'm so terrified um So instead...
Katie Higgins: We're about to leave. And he Justin says, can you drive? And that way I can continue to see. where seats are available. And I said, sure. So he says, hey, change of plans. We're going to fly out a hobby.
Katie Higgins: Okay. So we... blue southwest
Katie Higgins: Houston to Tulsa. Tulsa? to Chicago. In the hopes there was some Lufthansa flights out of Chicago. In particular, one to Munich.
Katie Higgins: that it was looking really good for so okay in this non -rev world so you're the idea is Better shot. In Chicago of getting on a plane to Europe. Yes. And I will tell you why, because this is important. Even if you're. If you're a... ah a regular person.
Katie Higgins: um stranded somewhere. You want to get to the major. airline arteries. of the United States. Houston k is an okay one. It's not great. We don't have a ton of non -stops to Europe.
Katie Higgins: Okay. okay Chicago, it's a United hub. it's great DC. IAD, Dulles Airport. Dulles, okay. ah It's a great one. JFK. Anywhere in New York? Those are great ones. So those are your top. three Oh, interesting. Oh, and Atlanta, obviously, for Delta. Oh, Atlanta's Delta. Yes. Okay, okay. um But because we are not Delta employees.
Katie Higgins: all of the delta flights go pretty fast to delta employees oh major company you get it right So we decided to make a run for Chicago. Well... Fun fact.
Katie Higgins: Southwest flies into Midway. So you still have to make it to O 'Hare. Justin assures us. guys. It's just a 30 -minute drive. Easy peasy. We're going to land with plenty of time.
Katie Higgins: And we said, great, honey. We trust ya. I just realized I'm going to say some things that are probably unkind to Justin. And I just asked him to. rate our podcast five stars i love this But I love this. But listen, traveling.
Katie Higgins: Is, you know. It... You know, if you can't travel together well as a family. Which is gonna involve some things. Right. So we make it to Chicago. ah We make it to Midway, no problem.
Katie Higgins: People are starving because Southwest doesn't offer meals. Right. So our children are just. you know, fainting and they just can't handle it. And Justin is of the opinion, and this is where he and I differ, that you can't eat in an Uber.
Katie Higgins: And I feel like you should be able to eat in an Uber. Depends on what it is, is what I'm gonna go with. Okay. Like, I'm not gonna eat a hard -boiled egg in an Uber. No, these were small personal pizzas.
Katie Higgins: I think that's okay. and Especially in Chicago where it's. It's land of pizza. Right. So he is actually waiting. at Midway for our children to finish their pizzas. I don't know about your children, my children will take an hour and a half to finish a meal.
Katie Higgins: Mine. Are gremlins. Oh. No. um So it took a while. He's getting antsy. I'm reading that energy. It's lovely to receive. And you're like, how do I manage this? So it's like, okay, did you get enough? but We will feed you at the next spot.
Katie Higgins: So. We get an cat or ah an Uber. Two. O 'Hare And ah what I did not know and what Justin did not know. Number one, we're driving at about six o 'clock at night. Great time to drive in any city. Number two, the trains in Chicago.
Katie Higgins: Go slower than I walk. and But you don't walk slow. Okay, they go slower than I walk. Yes. yeah We sat at a train crossing.
Katie Higgins: for about 30 minutes oh my god And it was moving. It was moving. Oh, because you would think that was just stuck. Barely.
Katie Higgins: Finally, Justin asks the Uber driver, can we do an alternate? He's already mapped it out for the Uber driver. There's a place where we can cross a bridge over. The train tracks. Can we please go this way? all of that We make it to O 'Hare.
Katie Higgins: We it's like it's like that scene in Home Alone and we are just hauling. And we get to the Lufthansa desk for the Munich flight and they said, we've been calling you. And you did not respond.
Katie Higgins: We have ah already Almost completely closed the flight. We have ah seats available. However, none of you are together. And this is where.
Katie Higgins: You have to make a judgment call as a parent because I have a 12 and a 14 year old. or Do we let them sit for nine hours on an overnight flight by themselves? Oh. Interesting.
Katie Higgins: And we decided, no, let's we'll wait for the Frankfurt flight. It leaves in another 45 minutes. There's plenty of spots on the Frankfurt flight. Oh! Okay, okay. Problem. Okay. I was going to say, this doesn't line up with the text message I received. Yes. So. On one of the flights, we find out that, number one, Tons of hotel employees have walked out of inner city Chicago hotels. It's a very busy weekend. They are on strike.
Katie Higgins: So a lot of the hotels inside Chicago are no longer taking reservations. Number two, whatever. app it is that Justin uses to schedule all of this staff travel.
Katie Higgins: is a disaster and something is not computing and it will not let us Uh... check in for this flight to Frankfurt. Oh. And I am watching my husband just lose all faith in technology. oh And I am trying to like, Hey kids, like let's make sure to keep our ah devices charged and be ready to run. sure But also don't ask us any questions right now because dad has zero patients left. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Katie Higgins: And I am looking at it like I can't have my children sleep in a. airport. I was, what okay, i keep going. I'm just listening. Because I have so many questions that I've had.
Katie Higgins: And this is where like we are credit card. points people yeah and status people. And I think you have to be if you're going to be a major traveler. I think definitely having.
Katie Higgins: ah status at any hotel or airline is a huge thing to have. If you intend to travel. regularly, especially internationally. Okay, okay.
Katie Higgins: Status meaning like you're like an elite level or a platinum level or something like that. I am proud to say that Justin is a platinum lifetime member at Marriott. Oh, okay. um I am just gold and that's okay.
Katie Higgins: but justin is platinum i don't know if we'll ever make it to titanium because he doesn't fly privately anymore. Okay. um We used to be platinum, but not lifetime platinum. Okay. Anyways.
Katie Higgins: But it's an important thing because when you have status, you can get rooms. When no one else can. So I was able to book us into a Hilton.
Katie Higgins: Which is... was probably more than what Justin wanted to spend, but... Say lovey. You know what? The kids and I had had a day and I needed a clean room with a few amenities. Yes. Yes. Agreed. Agreed. And, um.
Katie Higgins: I mean, shit, the flights were free free. Okay. We can shell out a little. for You can, you can. Have a nice place to stay. So. We're on our way trying to figure out, I've booked us. with this hotel they have a van that will come pick us up a shuttle or whatever we're trying to find it and in the process of that we are walking through baggage claim at o 'hare Okay.
Katie Higgins: And up ahead, we see this guy. And he is. Um... i don't know he's Probably. God. six inches and at least 50, 100 pounds on Michael.
Katie Higgins: Oh, that's a big guy. He's a big man. He's a big boy. That's a big guy. Off. And I can't. place it other than off.
Katie Higgins: Okay. Okay. and um I know I'm very concerned about our mics today. He starts to lean. And out of the corner of my eye, I see a group of people starting to pay attention. I'm like, oh, okay, I got to pay attention.
Katie Higgins: He's straight up. begins to fall. On Sophie and I, and I realized I. If he lands on me, I'm going to be crushed. Yeah, there's no way. So...
Katie Higgins: in in In only mom fashion that we can do, right? Those cat -like reflexes that only come in when our children are. In danger. I have to catch this man. And luckily another woman jumps in. So she and I both catch this man.
Katie Higgins: Oh my god! And we get him to a seat. And both of my kids are like, aren't you going to help him? I think I've helped him enough. I think I've done my part. You know, it's 1145 at night. We're in Chicago. I need to get you guys.
Katie Higgins: Too bad. Yeah. We are in a place where there are lots of helpers here. It will be okay. It'll be okay. You have to make these judgment calls. sure We prevented the major fall. Time to book it. He is yeah in a seat. He has his phone. He has his belongings. There's lots of staff around. okay There are lots of other people. that are in a better better position than I am. Okay. Or that your dad is.
Katie Higgins: to help you, right? I have two small children. Got to get you to bed. Yes, yeah ti that yes, yes. Yeah. And you have a long day ahead of you as well. Yeah, because we're only in Chicago and that's the opposite of Europe. Ha!
Katie Higgins: Um... So. Emily to the rescue. I'm trying to think, oh, I know what we did then. So, okay, so we go to bed.
Katie Higgins: We still got to figure out how to get to Europe. Okay, okay, okay. I forgot how we got to Europe. I did. I was wondering, did they sleep in the airport? because this was a like hour by the hour situation no thank god you slept in a bed a nice one there was robes it was nice love love love so the next morning i take the kids down we have breakfast everybody's you know done their things and um Justin comes down and goes, okay.
Katie Higgins: I've got a plan. Great love to hear it. I can get us. to Dublin. I said, great. Dublin is Europe. We can either stay in Dublin. Or we can fly.
Katie Higgins: to We can fly to London easily. We can fly to Paris easily. We can fly anywhere in Europe. We're in Europe. We can catch a flight. That sounds great. Let's do. that this is fascinating to me keep going however Hm?
Katie Higgins: Aer Lingus has a rule. You have to have registered for the flight 72 hours in advance. So we're now on a new airline. We're on a new airline. We are now on Aer Lingus, or the hopes of getting on Aer Lingus. Okay, okay. With several backup plans. you know, whether it's Munich, London, we've got lots of... other options, but we're trying for Aer Lingus first.
Katie Higgins: I want to go on one of these trips It's very stressful and I'm not convinced we save that much money. at this point because like we're having to pivot to hotels and you're getting snacks for people at airports and all the things it's fascinating though So...
Katie Higgins: Justin goes and sweet talks the Aer Lingus people. They get us on the flight. No problem. We gave them our little swag bags that we had made. Yes, Emily is a champ with this.
Katie Higgins: They loved it. We get to Dublin and Justin says, okay, I can get us. on a flight in an hour to Paris. Great. I'd love to hear it. Okay. Aer Lingus did not love to hear it. They had a lot of complaints.
Katie Higgins: Up out! about switching flights. Well, I forget when you're in Europe. And you're flying. Throughout Europe, they have a lot of baggage rules.
Katie Higgins: Okay. And our travel only permitted basically a purse. Oh, I was going to say y 'all tracks travel so efficiently. Not efficiently enough. Not efficiently enough.
Katie Higgins: So see we did get. some kind of disgruntledness. I will say also. This is um in Dublin. This is in Dublin. And I will say. To the Irish people who I love. Yes. They are very much bankers hours kind of people. Oh, I Love this. And um I mean, honestly, less than bankers hours. I mean, they were like a 10 to three. i situation. i i just think i was meant for europe when i hear those things um and this was about six zero in the morning
Katie Higgins: We didn't. Oh, so they're tired. We didn't get ah Dublin's brightest and finest and and most cheeriest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I follow. I follow. But we were able to get on the flight We make it to Charles de Gaulle. Success.
Katie Higgins: we How long is that flight from Dublin to Paris? ah a little over an hour hour 10 minutes Oh, how cool. It was easy. Right? Okay. Love this.
Katie Higgins: um so we make it to charles de gaulle we get to the hotel it was a new hotel for us called canopy. Oh, okay. In a different area near Trocadero. Okay. um they had a rooftop which was kind of what sold it for me thinking of the kids it had a rooftop patio That you could see the full length of the Eiffel Tower. What?
Katie Higgins: Okay. Good to know. Good to know. so yeah so we had we had one room sparkle you get to do it all okay i love this and a matter of fact we booked a room where like the king bed is in one room and then there's like a living room with a sofa bed Oh, that's delightful. Well, I mean, the kids are at that cusp. Like it's not going to be.
Katie Higgins: Oh, because and they were sharing about. So it's not an option for them much longer. but they're In theory, it's a great idea. Right. They were good sports about for a family of four. And I could lay in bed.
Katie Higgins: And from my pillow, see the tippity top sparkle. On the hour, every hour. Stop it. And you said a king -size bed? -size bed. which was delightful. And they have great pillows as well.
Katie Higgins: Um, so it was it was not our usual hotel yes yeah um our usual hotel was sold out and um And that's okay. you know we're we're on the fly here okay okay um and the more you know the more you know And I um so if we ever have our travel.
Katie Higgins: Trip. A traveling podcasting trip. then the more we know. Listen. Yeah. So we had a great time. um So we did things that. we usually have you You mentioned this briefly when we were chatting with Julia and I love this for you.
Katie Higgins: So, Sophie... Because we established... This was your seventh time to Paris. I think seventh or eighth. I know it sounds the most obnoxious thing for me to not know how many times I've said that. No, I love that. I adore Paris. Twice this year. Yes.
Katie Higgins: and sophie has been several times yes so there were things that she did want to do or that she has done in the past or new things that she wanted things yeah and so her new thing that she wanted to do was when we were in Ireland this summer, she discovered a love of cycling.
Katie Higgins: Okay. And so it was formerly known as fat tire. bike tours fat tire bike tours is what it was formerly known as it's now i think unlimited biking but they do these tours okay paris a guided tour And so we signed up for that.
Katie Higgins: It was wonderful. I learned things that I did not know about French history. I love this. um Did you know, for example, the huge military school right in the center of Paris, it's right across from Champs -Élysées. next to the Eiffel Tower.
Katie Higgins: was created and fully funded. by Madame de Pompidou. the mistress of Louis XV. He, he as as the tour called it, you have the Sun King, which is Louis XIV.
Katie Higgins: the fun king which is louis xv he had 300 mistresses. And then you have the Dun King, which is Luna 16th.
Katie Higgins: But Madame de Pompidou was the headmistress. Oh! And her job was to kind of... manage all of the mistresses. But what she also discovered was he was having too much fun and not looking out for Paris and for France. And so what she did was.
Katie Higgins: fully funded a military school. i out of her own pocket love the women in france let me tell you what i'll tell you what now do you know who was i'm gonna take this off um this little phone maybe maybe we don't like it yeah ah try then So a graduate. of this military school who goes on to become a general.
Katie Higgins: is general napoleon Bonaparte. Stop it! So, it is a little ironic, don't you think? That. The leader of the mistresses.
Katie Higgins: Starts a military school. That then educates educates Napoleon Bonaparte, who then just 20 years later or 15 years later or whatever it is.
Katie Higgins: uh helps lead the french revolution and then becomes emperor of france Um, Crowns himself. And and not not so good.
Katie Higgins: right napoleon's not someone we like he was at first he was of the people as they start out Mm hmm. like a narcissist they love bomb you and win you over they he They realized he was starting to start a lot of unnecessary wars. Hmm.
Katie Higgins: Hmm. interesting so there was some points on the tour where it was very interesting um Next to Les Invalides is a giant... um So Les Invalides is ah like the veterans hospital.
Katie Higgins: okay okay built also i think historic or current uh it's currently still but it was then okay i see let's see it was the one with the legs which i think is the 14th it's either louis 14 or 15 i can't ever remember this is why traveling and spending time with you is so fascinating you know so many things i read up open a book read a book it's reading rainbow whatever yeah i know ah but like
Katie Higgins: I think you, you... tend to be like listen my attracted to things that I wouldn't be but then when you tell me the story I'm fascinated My life goal was to be on Jeopardy, okay? I love this.
Katie Higgins: um So would do so good ah my problem is answering in the form of a question can't do it That's too hard anyways. It is. It is. So um that's just testing conformity. Yes. Okay, I'm done. Keep talking. Let's see, we were talking about Les Invalides. The bike tour. like Veterans Hospital. The Veterans Hospital. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the Veterans Hospital is built at the same time next to a church.
Katie Higgins: Okay, that is also being instructed. over 20 years for the church to be constructed. It's for the Sun King. It's for the 14th. Okay. Because he has moved out of Paris. And he decides, well, when I come to Paris, I want a place for me to pray. Just me.
Katie Higgins: So I'm going to build this gorgeous, elaborate church. And Madame de Pompidou is also like, but what about like the injured veterans? What about the people? And um so the Veterans Hospital goes up in about. four years and it takes the church over 20.
Katie Higgins: Now, meanwhile, the people of Paris, they have are struggling to keep jobs. They are struggling to feed their families. All of these things, right? Like prices of bread are going through the roof.
Katie Higgins: And they are watching this church being built that is beyond elaborate. And there is gold everywhere. It's all on the roof. And they are just looking at it like, oh, we are just putting gold on everything. while we can't buy bread.
Katie Higgins: uh -huh sounds sounds like uh there were a lot of teachable moments yeah okay okay fantastic fantastic yeah so we did draw a a whole correlation and history does repeat itself um Mm hmm.
Katie Higgins: So I'm trying so hard to like not. just let you talk. I know. It's so hard for me because I love that i love to hear you talk. Jump in. I love your stories always. Um, so.
Katie Higgins: Uh... We had a great time. Let's see. What else? um Oh, we ended up buying Owen a skateboard while we were there. Oh, this is, I did hear this story already, but you do need to share this story. Then I'll share the story of your.
Katie Higgins: dark, like so thoughtful present for me so that you can finish a drink. Okay, so, and then I'll tell you the the one hair -raising moment that actually did happen. Oh, that I haven't heard yet? You i haven't heard you yet. Okay, I can't wait. So, we bought Owen a skateboard while we were there. Paris, I had not realized until now that I have a skateboarding son, is a huge...
Katie Higgins: Skateboarding Town. And so Justin took Owen out, got him a new board, all of that. And we found this really cool place for him to skateboard called Place de la Bastille, which is. the grounds of the Bastille prison, which in 1789, the Parisians come in, they storm the Bastille.
Katie Higgins: empty it out. And that is what kicks off the revolution. And so now it's this beautiful plaza that has this gorgeous, I think it's copper pillar kind of obelisk situation. And it is now where...
Katie Higgins: hundreds of protests have happened over the years because it is like place de la revolution kind of thing but that's a different place actually so but it's where like If you're going to protest, this is where you protest. Historically, this is where it happens. And a matter of fact, just a few days earlier.
Katie Higgins: the students were protesting in that square and so it was really great time for us to talk about Student protests. Well, and you said that it was. um It was...
Katie Higgins: Young. It was like like as yeah young as 11. So the students of of all over France. um So it's not just in Paris, but all over France are currently.
Katie Higgins: protesting and the kids we watched from uh ah what do you call those, sky bridges.
Katie Higgins: at Le Bon Marché. We watched them march underneath us. And it was like, you know, when you're at the beginning of a protest and everybody's just so excited and they're just like ready to do it. And so we got like all sorts of hearts thrown at us. That's really cool. That's a really cool experience. And it was. and I mean, okay, i that sounded, I didn't mean it that way. Not, it's a really cool, I hate that they have to protest, but that's right a cool human experience. And you also get the opportunity to talk about the difference between a protest and a riot, right? Ooh, interesting. Because... That happens, right? Like you can start a peaceful protest.
Katie Higgins: But... And it has happened in Paris. It has happened um in Lyon. A ah police officer threw a tear gas canister. A 15 -year -old picked it up and it ended up. blowing his hand off.
Katie Higgins: So, I mean, it does turn violent and that. Okay. like when Once you cross that line of inflicting harm on others or on property. Like and that's not okay. It's not okay. You can stand and speak your mind. And that is very much part of the French ethos.
Katie Higgins: Okay. But... you You don't have the right to harm others. or property. Correct. right So the beginning of a protest is going to be the prime spot. So we caught the the the beginning of a protest. Oh, a protest. Okay.
Katie Higgins: Place de la Bastille um It was the aftermath of one. And so like everything was covered in graffiti. And so that's when we really talked about. It's not just harming.
Katie Higgins: an individual or breaking a glass. It's also comes down to graffiti and stuff like that. Okay. I follow. Two days later, we were at that same square. They'd already pressure washed everything off. Wow. And it was gorgeous again. So.
Katie Higgins: But while he was skateboarding in this park. Okay, yes. A gentleman comes up to him. and offers some advice waxes his board oh did he know english He knew some English, yes. Yeah, he was... ah Fairly fluent. I did not get a chance to speak to him. Justin did. Okay. Okay. Cause you can really get by. But okay. yeah but no i mean justin was able to communicate him just okay so okay okay um sophie and i were shopping at the time when this was happening love that
Katie Higgins: And. um so he's giving all these tips and tricks and Justin starts talking to the guy. Turns out. He's like a really famous skateboarder.
Katie Higgins: and there was very much a fanboy situation and he was so thrilled and um he just does this like with his free time he goes and helps people out with their tricks and stuff like that and has the time of his life.
Katie Higgins: So. That was incredible. Incredible. You were going to, oh, I know what you, so. That happened. But then you were going to share what I brought back with you. Oh, yes. And then I was going to tell you the hair -raising story. Well, okay. Well, I'm going to tell you. that there My husband, Stephen, used to let we what used to watch this TV show called Robin Big. It was a reality show. And this guy, Rob.
Katie Higgins: I couldn't tell you what it is, but it was the skateboard community. And he was a major skateboarder. and you know um a built a bit of a fortune or a brand or something like that it was the funniest show Like, they're the... they're a kind i mean a very kind community the skateboarding community gets such a bad stereotype punk kind of situation they are the nicest kindest.
Katie Higgins: most helpful community I have ever interacted with. and And I will say that to the end of time. They are the most wonderful.
Katie Higgins: community. Ever. So shout out to Ben Aurelian. um silver fox the silver fox the silver fox he's 45 and skateboards and it's so cool to watch him and like there was one trick he was trying to land when we were there okay and like justin got it on on video he said three of my favorite Bad words.
Katie Higgins: Okay. Okay. english Okay. Oh, I love this. What are they? shit fuck damn. Yes. I mean, the science fantastic. They're solid. Yeah. Yeah. and um So, yeah, I mean, it was just.
Katie Higgins: absolutely fantastic i love this and like the and i watched it and now sophie is skateboarding i I'm obsessed. I can't wait. i'm I'll subscribe to their YouTube. Right? they yeah and i love this for owen too like it was you know that what a cool moment he's ever had yeah I love this. I love this. Okay. So.
Katie Higgins: um Emily and I did do some. traveling for our 40th birthdays. We did. Over the summer and so she knows a thing about some things that I really love.
Katie Higgins: You know as friends do as friends do I got her a champagne sword Okay? She. Brought me back. this ring.
Katie Higgins: that Is completely glass. Okay. Glass blown ring. Glass. blown ring. All the way around. Like, This is not just... the band or not just the the heart part of it like Cause I think that would be more expected that it is just the, our skater has arrived. i
Katie Higgins: It's better for our video. Yes Julia has walked in from her skating lesson. One day we'll have her as a guest and she'll tell us all about her ice skating. ice capades okay so you would think that it would just be like a glass -blown heart on a metal band.
Katie Higgins: No! It is completely glass all the way around. The band on my finger is glass blown as well. And it's this amber. glass with these Fun.
Katie Higgins: whimsical kind of wonky. Lavender dots. And it's just divine. It's so. It was their last one. Glorious. And I...
Katie Higgins: adore this ring. But I just kept thinking. Me in a glass blown ring. just spells disaster. We'll see how long it lasts. We'll see how long it lasts. Hold on to this feeling. and But here's the thing. I think I'm going to, I think i I recognize its fragility so much.
Katie Higgins: that i will be careful with it you will be precious with it i will be precious with it So I really so You know, i so I ultimately decided.
Katie Higgins: I am. um you know, that it wasn't for me because it was too precious. too Too fragile. and And I'm going to tell you, I even then Googled this ring trying to find it again because I was still thinking about it. You cannot order it. on the interwebs. Okay? At all.
Katie Higgins: Well, Emily is in Paris. as Emily in Paris does. And Sophie and I tracked it down. And Sophie and Emily tracked it down. And with the help of Julia.
Katie Higgins: navigated my Ring size. Freakishly tiny fingers. yes So thanks to Sophie for her tiny little baby hands. Because this is not the type of ring that can, it it cannot. not fit.
Katie Higgins: Because otherwise I talk with my hands so much that it'll fly off. Yes. And it fits. And you know what? if Even if I'm. cold and my fingers get smaller I'll just move it to another finger Perfect.
Katie Higgins: And so. It will fit any of these three fingers. I love it And so I. I, well, so here's the thing that's so fun. That's so interesting. I was expecting zero presence, by the way.
Katie Higgins: Like it didn't even cross my mind. like i i did think i didn't intend to but i saw it and it was perfect and it was the last one and it fit which is it which is all honestly more special you know i love that when you see something and think of someone rather than like oh i gotta get something for because like that's not me i'm not that type of person and i you know that like there's no but There were a handful of things I thought, oh, she's in France. I should get some fever rune.
Katie Higgins: I almost texted you about that one. i Well, here's what I'm going to say. So I did. you know I have a fair amount of it. So in case you didn't know, listeners, ah French pharmacies. great for skincare great for makeup also Great for legitimate. Pharmaceutical needs. Things that you cannot. So.
Katie Higgins: ah This stuff is fantastic. And I was about to text you to say, hey, I need you to get me some of this. And then I went and looked and I had four boxes. Oh, good. So I was like, okay, I'm okay. Yeah. I'm okay. Because we actually had to do two trips. We can wait. To the pharmacy. Oh, good. To actually you speak to actual pharmacists. As you should. Oh, no. Well, Owen had allergies. Well, sure. Sure. So ah they walked him through all of that. Southeast, northeast. so
Katie Higgins: northea southeast texas to paris yeah listen so well he was recovering from allergies more oh i see we had to leave texas okay but he has still had all sorts of congestion and then sophie had heartburn and so we had to go to china burn but has she ever had heartburn no no so she's gonna go see mom and see if maybe she has a vortex or something Listen. I, you know. So yes, but also - So my my present is I -
Katie Higgins: I have had quite, listen, there's not much going on with me except for my therapy and how much I love the show, Good Girls. Thanks to Julia recommending the show to me. And I believe in my head, I'm on it. In my head, I'm one of them. What's Good Girls? I've heard of this. What is it? it is i i am i currently literally every day i'm like you know what this reminds me of julia when beth walks into the 7 -eleven and she pours vodka into her slurpee
Katie Higgins: I can think at this point, it's like, you know, we need you to stop. Yes. And then the one went on to be on. um that murder show white uh White Lotus. White Lotus. Wait, I've watched White Lotus. and She's got on it.
Katie Higgins: No! is it not that one okay this is a Julia, was it Netflix only? or what Good girls. yeah it's ah Is it a Netflix show or was it a network?
Katie Higgins: Oh, it was a Fox show that is now on Netflix. Julia. It's Mae Whitman. Um. The Girl from Parks and Rec. Uh... Oh, Retta. No, this is the one where they're drug dealers or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Katie Higgins: And then the one from Mad Men. And the one from Mad Men, and I never remember her name, but yes. The one from Mad Men. And they're just like all three, like, you know. suburban women I know what show you're talking about now I never watched it I okay so years ago I tried to watch it I couldn't get into it and I was you know dumping all of my problems onto Julia, as one does.
Katie Higgins: to their right hand that you pay to Listen. dump all my problems on, okay? And. She goes, you need to watch Good Girls. You would love it. And I said, i listen.
Katie Higgins: Eh. I didn't like it the first two times I tried to watch it. She said, you you need to. this one is a it's a slam dunk you're wrong you're wrong Well... Julia does know me oddly well.
Katie Higgins: And sure enough, it's my whole personality right now. I love it so much. The episodes are short. So when I fall asleep, as I do. at night. after one glass of wine.
Katie Higgins: actually i had pork last night it was lovely Oh, I love a port. I love a port so much. anyway so i did fall asleep but when i fall asleep in an episode because they're only 27 minutes i can quickly find the next day where i fell asleep you know what i mean that's nice so i like yeah that i like that yeah and i am so locked into these characters it's all i want to do i want to go home today With my porch.
Katie Higgins: And watch. The rest of it. It's so good and it makes me laugh and it also makes me feel Better About Life. Well, maybe I'll have to check it out. I know it's quite fun so um i don't know where that came from actually i don't know I did want to give a shout out though to Julia because I texted her and it was probably about nine in the morning.
Katie Higgins: On Saturday. Okay. I think it was Saturday. Paris time or our time? Her time. Okay, okay. And I figured, oh, maybe it was Sunday. No, you would have. I was going to say, you must have just gotten there. It was Sunday.
Katie Higgins: And I texted her. And I thought, oh. Poor thing. I'm waking her up probably. Oh, on a Saturday? Because she's been out to a music festival. No, you know where she was? She was at ACL then. Yeah. was you Were you at ACM last week?
Katie Higgins: yeah but i she did i was very impressed did y 'all hear that i answered promptly it was a shot in the dark that she would even be awake I mean, listen. And that she would know the answer.
Katie Higgins: i And but I told Sophie, I said, we got to use your little baby hands. Okay. Sophie's baby hands for the win, because this is a very. very special present. The fact that you trust me.
Katie Higgins: with this. means the world to me. well i don't know if i trust you with it but i know you needed it yes you know what that's even better I don't trust you with it, but you...
Katie Higgins: need it for whatever amount of time it stays in your life that's right no guys this is i'm like i kind of want to like be like how do we who do i can i learn to blow glass you can Let's do it. You can. I would love to.
Katie Higgins: ah Oh, my God. That would be so fabulous. This this seems intricate, though. well you probably wouldn't even need well as this minor amount of blowing but you wouldn't need like a giant forge you could probably just do it with a blowtorch almost oh keep it at a temperature listen i am in a time of life where i would love a a hobby with a blowtorch. Come over to my house. I have lots. Go!
Katie Higgins: We're left over from the guild days The guilt days, they were so good. Okay, so I'm going to tell you my hair -raising story. You've had time now to have some some beverages, okay? Okay, I want to hear. um There have been many a time that I think people... um struggle with Paris. And we actually just heard it today when we were setting up. Is it safe? Do you think people are nice to you? We literally, yes, this is the, I didn't mean to hit your head. This is literally everyone.
Katie Higgins: Now, I have not done much overseas traveling in my 40 years, but I have spent One. Time. in Paris. And. Not a single human being was rude.
Katie Higgins: And... I -I see - that I might even be considered a loud American. Do you know what I mean? No, like I would consider you a loud American. I am a loud American. No, but I, yeah, no, i'm I'm saying this to make a point. Yes.
Katie Higgins: Not a single person was rude to me. But also though, I'm a lot American, but I'm a kind. yes loud american yes There's other loud Americans that are not so kind. Yes.
Katie Higgins: And I think. Therein lies the difference, people! The French are also sometimes a little... Loud. when they were like doing music and things well that's true yes yes they can be loud but not in the same way americans not in the way americans are okay so go for it I cannot wait to hear the story now. I'm so excited. In and the many years that I have been.
Katie Higgins: I have never had somebody be. ah Rude. cruel, um scary, anything. to me. So...
Katie Higgins: On the last fall day. We got up. We're walking to Place des Vosges to have breakfast at Caret's. which, pro tip, That is where you go to corrects.
Katie Higgins: in Paris so if you remind me so they are the instagrammable hot chocolate oh oh oh with whipped cream wait I thought that was the Angelina's Angelina's is also one of them oh okay I see I see uh but Caret's is is absolutely lovely and everybody goes to the Trocadero location and it is packed. The line goes around the block It is very obnoxious. It's not even a great location.
Katie Higgins: Okay. So what I know is you go to the one in Place de Vosges, which is where Victor Hugo lived, author of Hunchback of Notre Dame and of Les Mis. I'm so grateful that you knew immediately I needed context.
Katie Higgins: So it's a beautiful plaza, little square. It's lovely, lovely, lovely. So we're on our way there. And on our way there. We... ah are are walking by an intersecting street and this group of kids turns the corner and they're probably 15, 17 years old.
Katie Higgins: And I'm not exactly sure what they said. because they're rattling it off in such quick french and i'm not paying attention but they are speaking directly to us now when in paris when you are walking in paris You have. to just be Walking with a disinterested face.
Katie Higgins: bored to tears face, right? People want to cost you in any way. If you walk around looking like a vulnerable person. You will get pickpocketed. You will get accosted. You will, all these things will happen to you.
Katie Higgins: And so I've trained my children. Like just walk forward, be bored. And they are angelic children. They are. So this is. I think even. more important for them what i did not know because i just plowed through this group of uh three guys oh no Is that they pulled a gun on my family. Wait, what?
Katie Higgins: No way! The fact that you - You have saved this for right now and I am - just now hearing about Stop this!
Katie Higgins: the gun on y 'all? Now. What you need to know. is It's really hard to get. A handgun of any kind. It's...
Katie Higgins: Now, running hunt rifles and things like that. You can get, but an actual handgun. Like, and there's no concealed carry like there is here. it's I... You are not kidding.
Katie Higgins: so I don't know what I was expecting, but are you? Are you fucking kidding me? Literally? literally no oh my god it's my favorite emily lab coming out right now No, I am not kidding. Oh my God. Julia, did you hear this? cloud through them.
Katie Higgins: And what I did not know - And because you plowed through them, they pulled a gun? No. Oh, okay. I was like, oh my God. ah Thank God I have this huge bottle of beer.
Katie Higgins: So they pull the gun and they kind of flash it at all three of my people. ah And as Owen then sits down at Corrette's later, he's like, yeah, I just looked down the barrel of a gun. No! And I - I thought he was using that it as an expressive phrase. Sure, sure.
Katie Higgins: And then Sophie's like, yeah, me too. And Justin was looking a little. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. oh To all three of them. This whole thing happens. And you don't hear about it till you're at the place? Well, they're talking about it. about it behind me and I'm like, man, we're trying to get to breakfast. You're so damn focused on - I'm not standing in line. I - This is - I'm - And I just thought. Emily, I am.
Katie Higgins: They were being hyperbolic and it's just like blah, blah, blah. And no. no Now. What we now know.
Katie Higgins: is Number one, it is very difficult to get ah a handgun. Yes, yes, yes. Number two. um it was probably a fake Okay, you but. as As a trick that, you know, whether it's to distract so that they then can pickpocket or they're just being punk ass 16 year old boys. Okay, but for Americans.
Katie Higgins: on the streets that concealed carry is a thing here. In their minds, it was a real gun. oh and no he was pretty sure it was fake okay Justin was on the fence Sophie would thought it was real well listen I'm with Sophie I'm in Sophie's camp here immediately and my thing like and Justin his immediate response is Do I...
Katie Higgins: throw a punch like what do i do i have to protect my children yeah these are my kids conversation of like Emily, had this been a real gun, what should we have done? And I said, well, first of all.
Katie Higgins: You would have activated me and then it would have been done. It would have been okay. Listen, I will say anyone's going to throw down. I want, I want Emily and Julia. In my camp. Listen. Uh, number two. I'm the state of goddamn Texas. Yeah. Hello. Pull a gun on me and see what I do. The one time we're going to play. Don't do it in the state of Texas. No, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it.
Katie Higgins: Please don't. we just We just finished telling someone that we're liberals. So don't do that. But listen, we're going to play the Texas card if we're in Europe. And listen, said we're from we're from the United States. like ah Sure, sure, sure.
Katie Higgins: Guns are a thing here. They are. We don't have. Or at least I don't have the same. sensitivity. as maybe others would. you know this is one I'm really on the fence about you don't know yeah But...
Katie Higgins: First of all, it was on a major street. I do not think. it was a real gun I do not think it was for anything other than to be a punk and to possibly pickpocket. Okay. My family passed with fine colors. They just kept walking. Sophie did show an expressive face, which we do talk her a little bit, but it's okay. I'm sorry. She's just an angel. I know. I know. And she's thinking, this is the most magical place on earth. They have guns here? What?
Katie Higgins: Oh my god. We are editing that as a clip for sure. That was... Precious! So, uh. I'm obsessed. So, yes. so Let me take a swig. We did we did have that.
Katie Higgins: interaction, which Um, If anything else, we just we just threw it in with the same story of, hey, Mama, remember when that giant man fell on you and you had to catch him? I mean, listen.
Katie Higgins: So... No, I'm going to say this one is is ah more exciting. I know, I know. We're a little concerned that they're going to go back on Monday and tell their friends they both looked down the barrel of a gun. You know what?
Katie Higgins: Let them. You know? Let them do it. As I told Justin, part of the trip was we wanted our kids to be a little bit grittier afterwards. And we wanted them to see the real life. You literally did just say earlier today that you felt like maybe.
Katie Higgins: your children have lived a gentle life. they Well, i I don't think they have. I know they have lived a very gentle, comfortable life. Mine have too. Even with like their mental struggles and disability struggles, mine are very comfortable. Outside of having hay fever, like that's the worst thing that's happened to my children.
Katie Higgins: that's awesome right like they have i love that the most gentle life they get to go to europe whenever they want we're now planning a ski trip over christmas i do i do want to be emily and justin's child they live And to be clear. Being Lisa's child? is incredible.
Katie Higgins: So, like... but emily and justin's child also comes with some perks it does come with a lot of travel comes with a lot of travel perks um so i mean my mom's dream is to travel with you on a trip like where you guide it you know let let's go I don't know. I think we have something here, Emily. I think we might. Listen, only if it's only for our benefit. And if a gun gets drawn on you, know that I will take a bullet for you or walk you through that situation of just saying, boof.
Katie Higgins: Flying colors. Keep going. She says. ah What gun? Listen, try me. Try me. I will put on my thick Texas accent and put your behind and find your mama.
Katie Higgins: Faster than you can say anything. i Emily? We made it back. I cannot believe that. I'm so glad this is all recorded because I'm like. What do you mean? I almost shared it earlier. I'm so glad. quick I am so glad you didn't. Well done. Great restraint. And I'm glad I saved it. Because that never entered my mind.
Katie Higgins: uh didn't for justin either and so yes a little concerned i do need to know tell me about justin after this trip he was he was a little rattled now we flew air france back They were delightful. Okay. So just straight to Houston. Straight to Houston. We did not get to sit next to each other, but we all were in.
Katie Higgins: A pretty good spot. it was And like close enough proximity to each other. Yeah. We were in generally the same area. Justin was able to get up and check on all of us. at various times and love that make sure everybody was good um And one of the times when he was up walking around. Because Justin is really good. He knows that when you're flying back from Europe, you don't sleep.
Katie Higgins: You keep walking and doing stuff. And I am a. ah I barely stayed awake for the takeoff. Like, I will sleep. And guess what? I slept fine last night. It's fine. That's so great. You're probably getting starting to get sleepy, though. ah Listen, I still got a little bit more of this espresso martini. Okay, okay. You you do have a... pep in your step today i do you do
Katie Higgins: So, ah but he was talking to one of the flight attendants on Air France. Okay. And they talked about the protests. And political views in France, which was enlightening for Justin. Because aren't they having a situation where there's a. big conservative versus liberal.
Katie Higgins: there is there there is very much i think in this it's um almost in the entirety of europe Oh, really? Okay. I've only read a little bit. Very much. Who is going to win out?
Katie Higgins: And okay right now with the protests, as a matter of fact. this won't i don't think go live until after this happens tomorrow is basically a national day of protest in france really and they are anticipating It to be. significant.
Katie Higgins: and um And this would be not about the schools, like the kids. All of it. All the issues. So for them, okay okay oil prices, gas prices are through the roof. ah Which means then all of the consumables are through the roof, which, you know.
Katie Higgins: it has this trickling effect that we as Americans know as well. Milk and bread do not cost the same they did. Five years ago, right Right. um so there's those issues there is um The school and education issues, which are similar to ours as far as teacher pay. They have really long school days for the kids. Really? The infrastructure.
Katie Higgins: is um crumbling as far as the age of the schools and all sorts of things yeah that was really interesting when you were saying that like the buildings like us thinking about an old building is nothing compared to France looking at an old building exactly so I mean it's the same as anywhere else the funding for education is not there interesting wow and um So.
Katie Higgins: Tomorrow, Saturday the 17th, is their national day of protest. And they are anticipating. a countrywide. it to be significant. Wow. so Okay. We will hopefully know more by next week when we record. I'll try to keep my ear to the ground on that. Yes. Yes.
Katie Higgins: um, Because I wouldn't even know, I don't think I would know even how to follow that. It's difficult. And that's one of the things like with international news. Yeah. You have to know.
Katie Higgins: Who to follow. Who to follow. is Because otherwise, well, and we were talking about this earlier today with my sister about how. um who okay who bombed who bombed who ukraine Correct me if I'm wrong. okay so Ukraine. bombed Russian.
Katie Higgins: data centers. last week last week uh ukraine drones i believe it was drones okay ended up going into russian territory and bombing data centers. And what they realized is in the aftermath. How many?
Katie Higgins: AI bots. Exactly. And we've all seen them on Instagram and we know. Hey, my friend is 17 and wants to meet you. Like those, there's those bots. And then there are. Political bots. Then that, so that my sister, so my sister and my brother -in -law live in Washington, DC. They both live and work on the Hill.
Katie Higgins: for 20 plus years. And they have been in multiple different. Um, sectors. facets, I don't know, of government, all the things. So it has been very, very interesting for me as an adult over the last 20 years.
Katie Higgins: to learn and hear their perspective and all of those different things. And. My sister has been saying for a while. What is going to divide this country?
Katie Higgins: Is not a... bomb from the sky. It's... digital. And I've always kind of. um Struggled to understand what that meant but When I heard then this about the bombing the Russian data centers.
Katie Higgins: It made me go. oh, I think it's finally clicking into place so much of what I've heard that because It's such an interesting thing to me. I think as republicans or democrats okay liberal or conservative And I can say this.
Katie Higgins: with certainty as someone who used to be. A very right wing. person before it was MAGA days. Okay. I, I I still can see a whole lot of.
Katie Higgins: good in the Republican Party. But I don't believe the maggo MAGA movement is Republican Party. And I'm going to be. i think a lot of people would agree with me on that But.
Katie Higgins: When people say what radicalized me. Quote unquote. um MAGA radicalized me to be. ah left -leaning. And then also for me, Jesus, like, I'm sorry. I i realized that the book I was reading was.
Katie Higgins: making it really clear, but that's. another topic for another day. But now that I have been on both sides. In the past, let's say.
Katie Higgins: five years. What a... Republican is fed. Versus what a... Democrat is fed. Is I think shockingly different. Oh it's wildly. Wildly different. Because.
Katie Higgins: Do you want to know? I didn't even know. about the Trump accounts. until My father -in -law told me about them Which we did get a ah lesson from my sister that these this is actually something that was... um Trump accounts are good. Decades ago.
Katie Higgins: Other presidents have all been trying to do this, but... it Trump has put his name on it. And it's actually a good thing. And I'm going to tell you how hard it is for both of us to say that because we both literally yelled at my sister on speakerphone. We do not want to hear that this is good.
Katie Higgins: Do you understand that? And she was like. Yeah sorry, I live and work here. So it's different for me. Yeah. she was like and also Multiple presidents over the past couple of decades have been trying to get these accounts through. And we're like, okay. Fine.
Katie Higgins: Fine. Just not gonna call it that. We're just not gonna call it a Trump account, okay? It's a kid account. is what it is. It's an American kid account. That sounds bad too. Yes, it does.
Katie Higgins: Sounds like a pedo account. It does! Did you ever watch Maid in the High Castle? No. I'm going to need you to. Okay. Did you? It's an alt - Is that the one where Nazis basically win? It's an alt -reality where the Nazis win. Got it.
Katie Higgins: I think I remember it. I was like, oh, that sounds depressing. It's the most fascinating show. We watched Pluribus. which is okay i've heard about this one So good. And we have to wait until next year. Okay. I don't know. It's. Not quite jump scare, but in my mind, it is a little jump scary. I feel like I'd be then jump scared by it. But it is good. It's really, really good. pluribus okay okay recommend once i'm gonna be done with good girls this weekend let me tell you
Katie Higgins: So I'll ah move on to plural. Oh, so we have some updates. Oh, what do we have? what have Well, first of all. The, uh... underarm bralette situation.
Katie Higgins: Oh! Tell us about that. and your While you were stuck in Chicago. So, yeah. So, good thing I have this. yeah yeah so it's it first of all it is it is darling i got a little it's like a sheer black with black polka dots and then the same but with nude Oh. And it's like a little bralette that it just goes over your bra.
Katie Higgins: okay that is cute uh i'm very into mesh and sheer right now not in a slutty way but also not to slut i'm not slut shaming but like not in a slutty way i just think it's really cute it is it was done in the right way it's so fun And. um It worked great.
Katie Higgins: Like, I mean, I mean i wore that my airplane outfit two days in a row. That's, and it was a blazer, right? I had a blazer, a black tee, some black slacks.
Katie Higgins: And. um like so impressed the whole thing And now I do have this. It's like a. fancy Febreze. But I did shoot it really quick that night in Chicago.
Katie Higgins: with it just to make sure sure right because you're in the same clothes it's a lot Yeah. And then you're going to be on a plane again. Right. Close to people. You don't want to smell. Yeah. Yeah. But it worked great. Okay. I wore it again with a white blouse and we went biking that day. oh and so like i Wait, the day y 'all landed.
Katie Higgins: and No, we didn't go bike the same day. Oh, I was going to say, because. okay so when you're with emily and you're traveling overseas she doesn't let you sleep That is not true. I let you sleep in. Not till the next day.
Katie Higgins: well no you don't get to sleep that day yeah it was now no which was the correct thing I'm not saying it was the wrong thing. We actually, I let my people sleep. You did? I did. Once we were able to get into the room because we'd been traveling for so many days. Okay, sure, sure, sure. versus a direct flight.
Katie Higgins: I get it. They had been through it. Like they started. I had not been through it. You had provided me with many. presence yes and they ended up in dublin and then you know it was a whole thing Yeah, you'd been on a lot of planes. Okay.
Katie Higgins: It was more than what you and I went through. And I did let them nap. And um it did kind of throw us into a little bit of a wonk. A little bit of a thing. And you know what? You got to throw the dice on that sometimes. There you go. Okay. So highly recommend. I think I sent you the link.
Katie Higgins: but of the of the shirt it's like this little this little like protective shirts yes her body odor yes we also got a hot tip from your sister though okay because i have purchased these but i didn't eat bring them on the trip It's like a pad. It's like a pad for your underarms. And you share her recommendation was throw it in a blazer. She said for blazers. My sister is like a professional in D .C. So she has to dress.
Katie Higgins: Like, she wears MML4 and... those types of things you know so but it's like a maxi pad for your underarms which is Great. And you throw it inside a blazer and it saves you on dry cleaning costs. Heck yeah!
Katie Higgins: So, and even when, so when, listen. at times. Even the dry cleaning won't get that smell out. No. sometimes i've i've done it in my bathtub where you just soak it i'm oh okay Okay. Because it just, but then, you know, like you've got, you have to know fabric care and then how to take care of it. Okay. Sure. Also a hundred percent.
Katie Higgins: organza silk square it's to pressing cloth We'll press anything. It does not matter if it is a non -iron fabric. A pressing cloth, that is what it is called.
Katie Higgins: you can Like between the iron? Between the iron and the fabric. And it does not matter what kind of fabric is underneath the pressing cloth. This is very interesting. This is a hot tip.
Katie Higgins: This is the kind of thing only Emily knows. i but so molly moore camp she's a fabulous designer out of new york is she studied She is, I think, designed for Ralph Lauren. Or Lauren, whichever way you pronounce it. okay She now has her own label that is just absolutely darling. Oh, I will. oh um But she studied. true fabrics and fashion and all of that and a pressing cloth.
Katie Higgins: Pressing blazers, silks, any kind of polyester that says do not. Press. 100%. If you have a pressing silk in between it. And. So Amazon, resting you can get it from Amazon. You can also go to a fabric store if it is a hundred percent silk organza.
Katie Higgins: You're good to go. you know This is amazing. Get a fat quarter of it. You're fine. This is so cool. listen the more you know Uh... With Emily, you're gonna learn all sorts of tips. Because remember.
Katie Higgins: You're just gonna learn that you... I wanted to be on Jeopardy. I love it. I love it. um Do we have anything else? Okay, let's see. um Okay, my sister also let us know about Ally Heels. A -L -L -Y.
Katie Higgins: And, you know. um It's a pretty penny. It's a pretty, it's a spendy situation, but it, she said, my sister is not a heels girl. My sister is a rodeo. Girl.
Katie Higgins: We really always thought. growing up that I'd end up in this city and my sister would end up in the country. We are completely opposites. She has lived and worked. in the city on the hill at NDC.
Katie Higgins: Since she... finished college maybe even before that because her internship was like right was like part of the end of her something or other. And I now live, you know. i'm as i i'm like how much further out can i get i went from five acres to 10 acres to Goodness gracious, can I have a hundred and not? ever have to see people. im Except for the people I like.
Katie Higgins: So I talked to her sister for the first time ever today. Yes. And I'm going to say, I think my sister really liked you. I will say you guys are like chalk and cheese. I've never heard that. We are though. Sarah, right? Would you not agree? We're talking cheese.
Katie Higgins: she's clear She's coming down for Christmas and said, oh, you should come over for eggnog and biscotti. She goes, I don't. I don't want, I don't like either of those. things I don't like either of those. No, everybody says that they do. She's like, no, what is it? And I was like,
Katie Higgins: I even, I know, I literally even said to Sarah, I said, Sarah. No, you don't understand. I've never liked eggnog before until I had Emily's. No. I don't like bourbon or...
Katie Higgins: Bluebell homemade vanilla. I like that your sister and Michael have the same voice. I know. Well, okay. No, like in your impersonation. In my impersonation. No. No. Okay, so technically that's just Michael.
Katie Higgins: That's my actual Michael verse. Michael. boy But in this scenario, in in this scenario, that's like i know that's fine. We can do wine and biscotti. No, I don't like that either. I don't like biscotti. It was like, no, it's really good. Dipped in red wine.
Katie Higgins: She said, no, I don't like it. I said, okay.
Katie Higgins: But I'm going to say the two of you, I think the two of you, even with this. I'll make her tortellini on brodo. is what i'll make i think she would love that It's homemade tortellini. Oh, my God. With, let's see, it's. pork and parmesan and prosciutto. It's not super rich. Am I invited to this? Yes, of course.
Katie Higgins: Okay, good. And it's with a delightful broth that is seasoned slightly with a Parmesan rind. I know she listens to us, so I'm trying to really sell it. Yeah, she's really, yeah.
Katie Higgins: shall come and hang out. with my obnoxious Christmas tree. No, I think, I think, I think. I think actually she, she would love it. I think she would love that. So.
Katie Higgins: But no, we we are. We are two sides of a coin. chalk and cheese chalk and cheese that's interesting i've never heard of that Believe it's British. I love it. It's one of those things like my mom says a lot of things and I just don't know where they come from. I love it. I love a Nancy Wenzel.
Katie Higgins: So Chuck and Cheese. chalk and cheese sarah are you the chalk or the cheese Chuck. She's the chalk on the cheese. Well, because she doesn't like rich things. Well, because I'm the drinker. And I like rich things. So I'm the cheese.
Katie Higgins: What's funny about this is, nevermind, I'm gonna save that for later. anyways anyways so uh we did get a hot tip about that okay okay on the so here petty betty of the week is also going to be from my sister This was fantastic.
Katie Higgins: If you are a liberal woman, If you are a liberal human, I just don't think a woman is. I think a woman who's listening to this, if. you know whatever If you are a liberal human,
Katie Higgins: in Texas. Instead of marking block and report spam. Or unsubscribe. Or unsubscribe to the political text messages that we all get here no matter what we are registered as.
Katie Higgins: No, no, she says no, no Do not do that. Do not do that. Be a Petty Betty. Okay? And you receive those text messages. In fact.
Katie Higgins: Give those campaigns a call. Because then... Instead... You're receiving them. those those text messages from those republican candidates instead of someone who might be susceptible to their messaging.
Katie Higgins: and and wasting their money if you feel compelled to call your congressman or your senator instead Because she did remind us that there are interns answering those and some of them did not decide which offices they would like to go to. They're unpaid and they may not agree with who they work for. The better option is number one.
Katie Higgins: Put it in writing. Put it in writing directly to your congressman or senator. Because then... it's and written down ask for a reply Ask for a reply.
Katie Higgins: And then... Call the campaigns. So there you have it. There you have it from us. Petty 40 year olds. I have really no patty bettys for the week because I just spent a week in Paris. Heck yeah. I know. Just watching all your stuff made me just feel.
Katie Higgins: You feel... Like... I keep, I keep wanting to say like a, like a, oh, breath of fresh air is what I meant. like Like I was going to say windy, but that's not the right word. No. But like a...
Katie Higgins: Like a... Gust of fresh air. It was lovely to watch her stories. I'm so excited. I cannot believe. that this crazy story was a gun being pulled on you i don't care if it was fake or not In the moment, it was real.
Katie Higgins: Yeah, c 'est la vie. C 'est la vie! C 'est la vie! So there you have it. There we go. Another episode of. we have we have thoughts which is intended a hundred percent for ourselves but Apparently people are listening. And we share it with all of you. Exactly. May we encourage you to have your own thoughts and to, like we said. schedule a weekly Cocktail ketchup.
Katie Higgins: with a friend that you adore and want to prioritize time with. And whether you want to start a podcast or not, just... Tell the people around you. that You are recording. Sorry, I can't. I'm recording my podcast. We've got a podcast. We've got a podcast. Because then you will then get to see your people.
Katie Higgins: Okay. All right. Well, cheers. Cheers. Cheers to that. Cheers to that. I have no more drinks, but cheers to that. I still will see you next week. Okay. Sounds wonderful guys. All right. Next week, episode nine. We cannot wait. Bye.
