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Episode 9: Acupuncture, Jeep Shopping, Japan Dreams & Petty Betty

We Have Thoughts With Emily & Katie
We Have Thoughts With Emily & Katie

31 plays · Oct 30, 2026

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Katie Higgins: Just gonna... Get right to it. Guess who's back. Back again. Episode nine. Nine. We did take a week off because...

Katie Higgins: As. why did Why did we take over? Why did we take over? Oh. Well. i I have had two extremely busy weeks and not not anything that's like. like nothing all that exciting to report more just that it's like one of those things it's like Oh my god, did everything all year have to happen?

Katie Higgins: In the last 14 days. Got it. I remember this now. Yeah. Yes. and i And I, but I also. I don't remember what. If I'm being honest. Like, I can't. I think you had an a event at the shop, maybe. i Oh, I've had two, actually.

Katie Higgins: And well, one of them we collabed with Lit Book Bar. Yeah. Because A Court of Thorns and Roses, Sarah J. Maas, Where's My Romanticity People. Book six came out.

Katie Higgins: for in Akkator. So that was a release party. And I think last week you also had something. I can't remember what it was. What did we do? There was something. There was and i was basically a beg off, which I'm fine with sometimes because I can use it. day heck to catch up with my life. Heck yeah. And as, as Emily reminded me,

Katie Higgins: we can do whatever we want we're doing this for fun we do this for fun yeah hey I think it maybe went to my head a little bit that uh My sister. And yours is from law. listen to all the episodes so i think it went to my head a little bit like oh you know.

Katie Higgins: They're depending on us? They're depending on us. They had to make their own frivolities for the last week. exactly Hope that worked out for y 'all. I'll hear that from my sister. I don't care. You're fine. No, I'm like, yeah, I'm totally kidding. Maybe she's really sad that she didn't get to hear my beautiful voice. I i actually think, I think, yeah.

Katie Higgins: i think you're There are so many things that you do so well that she also loves to do that I'm like, oh, yeah, totally. Y 'all would like. One day we're going to find out what those are because she doesn't drink. Oh, that's true. She probably doesn't smoke. She probably doesn't.

Katie Higgins: What else she doesn't like? uh rich foods but she loves to cook no she doesn't like rich Sweet, I think. I think she doesn't like rich sweets. She didn't like ice cream.

Katie Higgins: These were all things I learned about my sister that day. that i was like wait guys i was very excited to make her eggnog and to come and sit in my in my house at christmas yeah and she goes i don't like eggnog and i said well everybody says that yeah Not to toot my own horn here. No, it's very good. i don't i didn't like chanel eggnog i didn't like eggnog until i had

Katie Higgins: It's made from scratch. It's made from scratch. It's got ice cream in it. It is from a cookbook from Louisiana and the section of the cookbook it is in. hu It's called How Men Cook.

Katie Higgins: How men cook. Mm hmm. Okay. Okay. So it is an exceptional. eggnog recipe my family has been making for over 30 years. It is delicious.

Katie Higgins: Delicious. I'm still offended that she won't even try it. I know. because She'll try it. She'll try it. And she doesn't like... Ice cream. I'm gonna get her to try it. We will force feed it. Well, okay. So one of the things my sister does love, so she likes, she and I both, i like we love a gummy candy.

Katie Higgins: Love a gummy candy. So like when it comes to candy, that's her preferred is like not. It's not like chocolate. It's more like sweet and sour type of stuff. and She and I then both also.

Katie Higgins: Love. a sugar cookie. Like, and not a crappy one. I'm not talking about a crappy sugar cookie. I'm talking about... Are you talking about the shitty ones from Walmart that are like... fluorescent colors. No, I hate those. Okay. No, those, those I hate. okay i hate this is different i'm gonna hold this i can't it's i feel like i am in I am recording an NPR or something. Yeah, like, I'm like, oh.

Katie Higgins: Hello. like and i yeah sweaty balls yeah Oh man, I was about to do Stefan and I couldn't think of it that quick. It's okay. I know, I know. It's okay. Uh, She.

Katie Higgins: She loves she and I love like no like, you know when it's like a homemade sugar cookie where it's like you can taste. Like, it's like, it's like. Just so simply sweet.

Katie Higgins: Yes. So she loves that. nice Okay. So I will make you Margaret Brown's sugar cookies. Okay. Okay. And. If you want more of a buttery vibe, I could do... the shortbread cookies that i made oh i think she would like that as well good because i just got new cutters when they were in ireland and i'd really like to do some new shapes oh i'll be very excited to be a part of this

Katie Higgins: Went to Ballymaloo and got myself they' the prettiest rectangle scallop. Okay, go up that is the place. that you were you were telling yeah when i have my mental when you have your mental breakdown that's where you're going it might happen sooner rather than later you never know you never know uh it's right outside of cork It is the most magical cookery school.

Katie Higgins: Right now, I can't have my... my mental breakdown until they have availability. That's right. That's right. I love this. I have quite. recently been very much.

Katie Higgins: connecting with the reels that come across my my social media that are like I don't have the time for a proper crash out right now. But don't let that think I don't don't let that make you think I don't need one. Yes, because. I have to admit though, I've done better the past two days.

Katie Higgins: The past two days. i have done significantly better at. being. Not. Completely.

Katie Higgins: A wretch. like a wicked shrew. So I'm not to tip my own horn here. Okay. Tell me I am at a week Oh! I've been. An absolute delight who sleeps through the night. Oh, you were telling me about this. Okay, yes. Where have you come from today? Well, today and the last Friday. I went and saw my acupuncturist. Okay. Okay. She is. Darling.

Katie Higgins: And. So last week I went because I was having significant pain in my elbow. Okay. i Couldn't lift anything with this. with my right arm. which if you remember a couple weeks ago i was on airplanes could not get get luggage down okay okay it was very humbling experience. So I had basically no strength, no grip.

Katie Higgins: nothing in my right side so i went and saw her and she goes o and I said, I know. I think I might be in perimenopause. and she goes well when you're in perimenopause

Katie Higgins: like you basically the estrogen helps keep all your joints lubricated oh okay okay so you're gonna start like having brittleness and soreness in a lot of your joints is that the only joint no uh yeah there's a handful uh when i get out of bed in the morning it's really hard to walk and my hips hurt uh this shoulder has some issues like what else are you looking for because i probably have it she goes are your eyes dry and it's like oh my god yes all i assumed it was from allergies yeah Could be, but also that's a sign. Like again, the like lubrication thing. Had me show her my tone.

Katie Higgins: Oh, exactly. Sure. uh very eastern medicine yes i i did i did acupuncture for a time And she goes, oh yeah. Yeah, we see some blood.

Katie Higgins: issues here so she did my acupuncture okay herbs I have slept every single night this week through the night. Wow.

Katie Higgins: It is magnificent. Went today, we did a double session on her hips. So she is is working. to lesson. the perimenopause to where it is an easier adventure for me an easier time And I am all in. I okay i am a delight. So, wow.

Katie Higgins: I always find you to be a delight. Well, that's because I like you. I know. I understand. And you don't piss me off. Exactly. I... I think I am a bit, if I don't like you and I don't want to be around you.

Katie Higgins: I used to be able to cover that up. I can't do it anymore. I can't do it anymore. There is zero faking it anymore. it's the weirdest Thing. Can I do it? Because I heard... i heard people.

Katie Higgins: Talk about such things. How? You turn 40 and you just. Don't give a fuck anymore. Right. And, like, definitely, like, yeah we've we talked we've talked at length about this, that, you know, that really did kind of start happening in our later 30s.

Katie Higgins: and 40 and whatever. But this is a new thing. This is not that. Yes. This is... that I'd say it's part of it, I guess. There is no digging deep. There's nothing there. There's nothing there.

Katie Higgins: I... I couldn't. I can't fake it if i if i my life depended on it. yeah That's how bad it is. Yeah. it's It's the weirdest sensation, especially you and I.

Katie Higgins: are performers do you know what i mean right people expect a certain level of energy from us And when they don't get it, I'm going to tell you. They make it noon. In their own little ways. yes Yes, they do. or Which is a weird thing to experience. What's wrong?

Katie Higgins: What's wrong with you? I'm tired today. Can I just be tired? My husband doesn't understand this. Steven! God love him? He said to me the other day I... I...

Katie Higgins: Don't. really even know how to be around you lately well Justin doesn't even know how like he's like why do you think you're everybody's performer I said, let me tell you what happens. If I don't. uh -huh If I am not idea person, if I am not magic energy.

Katie Higgins: Then I have to sit and endure thee. What's wrong? No, something's wrong. You can talk to me. And sometimes I just am bitter. Okay? Yeah. Can I just be bitter? Mm -hmm.

Katie Higgins: Burp. Bye. minutes uh -huh when I say five minutes we all know it's gonna be a little bit more than that I mean maybe longer than a year but if you let me go away to a quiet space yes TikTok or Pinterest or Instagram i'm usually better in half an hour i have never cared less about my screen time Don't care ever Like.

Katie Higgins: Do not care. And I have found myself like. Oh, my poor husband. He'll be like. What is... I... I don't care.

Katie Higgins: in Which then he thinks like I'm being mean. No. Uh. I quite literally.

Katie Higgins: Don't, I couldn't care. less about Anything. I don't want to talk. No talking, no more words. No more words. So this week. We've got none. As we're here doing our podcast, but I have no words. I'm telling you. So I've had thoughts though. All sorts of. energy right I'm feeling great. So I've been super productive.

Katie Higgins: okay in the freezer i have already put up a double batch of chocolate pepper cookies, a double batch of chocolate hazelnut biscotti. I've chopped all of the hazelnuts. for additional biscotti and granola.

Katie Higgins: I made... we have a bunch of kids spending the night this weekend for halloween so i've made sausage balls and cinnamon rolls that I just have to pop in the oven. Wow. And you're in sheet. Let me tell you people. She's an ingredient household. This is all from scratch. Yes. Yes. Which really sucks when you've been cooking all day because you are an ingredient household and the only option is to just keep going.

Katie Higgins: yes. So... I had a point to this story and I'm trying to remember what it was. You've had good energy lately. I've had good energy. And so you've been doing all these things in preparations. And like the shortbread cookies, the sugar cookies will all go into the freezer.

Katie Higgins: Okay. Bye. And I then looked at my husband and said, well, what do you want for dinner? Well, I don't know whatever I just need you to tell me what do you want for dinner? Like my brain is done. Like I have been to Costco and H -E -B and I have made. a million dishes for the freezer i am well stocked What do you want for dinner?

Katie Higgins: And he goes, I can make my. Because he says he can cook. Okay, Stephen. Just in here. I love them. Yeah. He can cook about three things. Okay. Okay.

Katie Higgins: and So he offered breakfast sandwiches. Okay. Which is English muffin. The Kraft single slice. Yeah. and a fried egg Love. Okay, everything about that I don't love. Yeah, okay. Ha ha!

Katie Higgins: Okay. First of all, I have lots of great cheeses in there. Why are you picking the worst? I have to be honest. I was like. American cheese doesn't. track for me with with emily right i'm gonna tell you though i love it some american cheese on the right situation a grilled cheese sandwich i think i do think american craft singles are superior or on a whataburger it has to be american cheese A cheeseburger.

Katie Higgins: Or a real grilled cheese sandwich. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Those are the only times. Okay. All right. All right. Okay. Yeah. But I think... If you're making a breakfast sandwich, you could just. You could jazz that up. Okay. You, I have a dozen cheeses in there that are exceptional. Yeah.

Katie Higgins: Just grate it on there. Let it melt into the holes of the English muffin, which by the way, he bought the wrong kind. It was the whole wheat kind, which I think we can agree. is the worst is the inferior kind I swear I am actually in a good space, guys.

Katie Higgins: No, this listen, you know what you want. You know what you want. But. He required you to make a choice. So, but my thing is. He walked into this situation. All I said was, what do you want for dinner?

Katie Higgins: And he gave you no answer. The worst answer. And I also. Owen super picky about eggs. He is the only one that can make his eggs They are scrambled a very specific way. oh He does not like mine. He says they are too, essentially too wet. I like a very French. I do. I do. Yeah. I do not like a dry scrambled egg. Owen loves a dry scrambled egg. Really? I will put like.

Katie Higgins: cream in there and yeah butter and cheese. And he goes, no. Like. he doesn't he doesn't put anything in his okay well but he's also he's also doing the the health things.

Katie Higgins: Right. But when you're trying to put it on weight, oh you can have butter and cream and cheese. Yeah. Okay. I know I shouldn't do. buttercream and cheese, but. That's what makes eggs delicious. Well, hey, it'll help lubricate that's the joints, I feel like. rights Right. Yeah. So it keeps me looking young. There you go. yeah So I ended up having to make meatballs. last night. Okay.

Katie Higgins: But the whole point of it was like. Can you just make a decision? Make a decision. Like you're like, I can sit here and do the things because I've been doing it. It's like I'm on autopilot at that point. I'm about to go to HEB. What do you need? Yeah.

Katie Higgins: Yeah. But don't tell me. egg sandwiches Because they're gross. They're gross. I... Let's see. What did we eat this week?

Katie Higgins: I... Okay, so I am on a kick. You know, listen, that this my least liberal thing about me right now is AI. I... That's kind of a... Big ticket item. I know.

Katie Higgins: I know. I'm like, I... Listen. I changed sides because I love The humans. I know. And here I am making the robots do my work. I also love the artificial humans is what I'm going to tell you.

Katie Higgins: Me and chat. Chat? Chat has become my best friend. Julia, my manager, you hear me. reference her often. She's like the way you talk to chat.

Katie Higgins: is so elder millennial. I love chat what do you say I just tell chat everything Currently looking at trading in my Jeep. for another Jeep.

Katie Higgins: Because. You know, listen. Listen. I... I have loved my year. with my neon Jeep Wrangler. But that time has come to an end. Okay. It has come to an end because it's a very loud car.

Katie Higgins: Like on the inside. oh it's yeah dad drove a jeep i didn't like it it's it's a loud car and it is a a little bit jerky. You know? But that's the whole point of the Jeep.

Katie Higgins: You know, it's the take the, top you, you suffer through that. because the days where the top is off And you're doing. fun adventure -y things. There's always why are they always blowing leaves?

Katie Higgins: i I don't think they blow leaves. any I think Ian sees us and then starts. i But except I know he doesn't do that. who every morning and every afternoon blows his deck. And I feel like that's what's happening here.

Katie Higgins: All of these people. What cracks me up is my my favorite podcast, because I do listen to podcasts. Emily just hosts a plethora. i But my my favorite podcast is called The Big Boo Cast. And literally the yeah yard people come every time she's recording. And she'll she'll be like, I scheduled them at a different time. And here they still are.

Katie Higgins: It cracks me up. And I'm like, what is this? It's our shtick. It's apparently and the thing. An homage to her. It's an homage to her. Yes, apparently so. So i'm I'm looking at different. trading in my car and whatever. And so I've been, I i give chat, you know.

Katie Higgins: hey here's this listing because i'm going to get it probably like do the carvana thing where they just pick up your old car and leave the new one but it's like used but new to me but it like they just bring it and drop it off And I've had a few friends use it. They've said it's amazing. So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna give this a shot. So I send chat the listings of these cars I'm looking at to like.

Katie Higgins: Compare it. Is this a good buy? Blah, blah, blah. And as... It's telling me these things. I go, oh, no, that, i you know, we can't do that because my children are feral. The point is, I also I need to get back to the seating arrangement where it is. the captain's chairs, and then a third row so that all of my children are separated. Yes. And chat responds to me like, oh. Yes.

Katie Higgins: I forgot about the feral offspring. We... We have - We have to account for them. that you need a specific seating arrangement yeah and you are willing to sacrifice in other areas.

Katie Higgins: for that. I said, yes, chat. That's exactly right. I do love a captain's chair, though. I i mean. to be clear when you have And when you have that third one. That third child.

Katie Higgins: You have to have the captain's chairs in the second row that does not have a console between it though. Yes. And... some of the SUVs They put that in there and i and i and I know it's fancy and pretty and what a nice idea to have a console for my children, but no.

Katie Higgins: They don't need a console. I just need the third one to be able to get to the back. Yes And I'm telling you, they, if we had recorded last week. My petty betty of the week last week would have been.

Katie Higgins: How much you get scammed on the cost of a car. oh when you have that third child 100%. They take a car price and they jack that shit up so high because they know you can't. So there's say no two jobs I think I would do very well in. One, tell me being a consultant for airlines.

Katie Higgins: Yes. Full stop. you know No explanation needed. Yes. because i Where do you need help? Yes. I can i have thoughts on this. The other is working for a luxury car brand. building a true luxury SUV.

Katie Higgins: I have a lot of thoughts on this. I know you do. Now, and okay, you have two children, but I can see where you would probably also hate that console. Because...

Katie Higgins: It would fill up with things right now. uh i know we we're jumping ahead a little but yeah i'm gonna throw in a petty betty go for it German cars, German people, I guess do not ever have a beverage in a car. Really? Okay, because the... Your drink situation, situation like the drink holder.

Katie Higgins: Horrible, horrible, horrible. I don't know, like... First of all, Like they have drinks for ants, okay? Okay, okay. The size of the cup. because they right now the kind that we have the second row is a bench and it has the thing it has a okay sure sure it comes down the middle so that they can comes down in the middle right yeah old school You go.

Katie Higgins: like uh p terry like if you get a soft drink whatever uh -huh nope Not going to happen. Not going to. One of you can put a drink in, but not both of you. Really? I think they only drink Red Bulls on the go, I guess. That is my only thought. How interesting. they are doing Pointless.

Katie Higgins: Cup holders. interesting Interesting. Japanese. They want square cup holders. I don't know how many of you have ever drank out of a square drink. but Other than a juice box, but that's a rectangle.

Katie Higgins: the The amount of stress a square cup holder gives me, Justin knows. If he brings me a - Have you been to Japan? No, it's on everybody else's list. do You know what? i A very dear friend of mine just got back from Japan, brought my kids the cutest little presents.

Katie Higgins: And she said it was the time of her life. Now here's the thing. the i mean just I'm going off. Want to go... because they want to ski. I don't. They have amazing powder. Japan has some of the best skiing and snow.

Katie Higgins: okay in the entire world okay is mongolia near japan I mean, it's in the same area of the world, but Japan is an island. Oh.

Katie Higgins: Please tell me you knew that. he Nope. Nope. Nope, nope, nope. I was just thinking Mongolia is cold, right? It is. And Mongolia is over near Russia and China.

Katie Higgins: Well, it's from the Cashmere Goats. Oh. But yes. Okay. so you know but japan okay exceptional powder it's an island and yet they have snow mountains emoji.

Katie Higgins: Not in Africa? That's Kilimanjaro. Oh! Welcome to... We have thoughts with Emily and Katie where... Featuring our geography section. Geography section for those who know things and those who don't.

Katie Higgins: Did you know in the seventh grade I competed to be on the geography beat? This does not surprise me. I'll tell you, I could win a spelling bee, though. Oh, not me. Not to save my life. Okay, okay. The I before E messes me up every time. I know. It's odd. It's odd. But also, though, I didn't know Japan was an island. I was kind of expecting you to say weird. because then it would be an I before E situation.

Katie Higgins: oh see no that would that would have been too many things yeah uh but no they have exceptional skiing i don't ski okay correct sure i don't either i want to go to see the cherry blossoms i want to go to see the temples i want to go and have a whole day just looking at stationary shops oh and i would like to remind my family once again you think you like japanese food because you've had american japanese I don't know if you will actually like Japanese food.

Katie Higgins: I said it. I... Like, I can't just ask for cups of rice and have y 'all ski and live off of cups of rice. That's true. Not when you're skiing. Like, legit skiing. I mean, probably carbs for the kids would be fine, but, and I know they will have other food. Sure. I feel like you could get like some steak.

Katie Higgins: Yep. Kobe, what is it? Because Kobe beef is. Well, and why you? Wagyu. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. something. There, see, you know, you know stuff. yeah But I don't... yeah Do you like sushi?

Katie Higgins: I do. now Okay. i have I wish I did. I haven't had true sushi or sashimi in years. Oh, okay. I used to love it. Really? Okay. I'm here to tell you, it's a great hangover cure.

Katie Higgins: That and a seaweed salad. you're back in business i'm gonna tell you i've had a few of those recently And not necessarily because my consumption is high, but because.

Katie Higgins: Heaven forbid. I forget to eat. Or drink water or drink water. And then downhill for three days. Yeah. It's a... wretched so you get a cup of soup okay you get some sushi real sushi okay and a seaweed salad your ride is ring really i don't know if it's a salt i don't know what it is but Oh, so sorry.

Katie Higgins: I might need to pause this real quick.

Katie Higgins: Welcome back. We had to take a short break. Kids, am I right? Kids, and a little... a lovely dose of autism awareness for you. So. But hey, mitt we got another. We got a refresh. And look at that. Look at you. I know. We got a refresh on drinks. There we go. There we go. Yes. Different beverages, I feel. Well, we typically have an autumn old -fashioned, don't we?

Katie Higgins: but then this the chocolate martini every now and then it's so nice and because it's like to be fair you're not drinking a chocolate martini what What would that, what would a chocolate martini be? Well, isn't the chocolate martini, it has milk and you are not drinking it. No, what I am drinking is chocolate liqueur.

Katie Higgins: and vodka. and chocolate syrup. they they deck Yeah, they do decorate the edges with some chocolate syrup. But i to be I need to be like, no syrup. No syrup, no milk, just the...

Katie Higgins: to Liquor Parts Do you just want it in a solo cup next time? Sure. sure no i love the cup i love the cup what would we do without lick lit book bar i know let's see okay so what I feel like we've gone off on so many different rabbit trails, which is...

Katie Higgins: Fantastic for me. I do enjoy that. Okay, so so but what have you, okay, so you had acupuncture. I had acupuncture. A double session today. Feeling. Softening the blows of.

Katie Higgins: Yes, I feel more like... I am, I've gone back a few years. Oh! A little bit. i am Interesting. I'm hopeful. with the session I had today.

Katie Higgins: and the uh the new herbs that i got okay okay it will help with that and here's what i think maybe this is what i started on with the cookies and stuff as well oh okay yes is I am feeling more like myself. I have more energy to do the things.

Katie Higgins: oh okay okay i also ordered some new furniture and i think tomorrow tell me about it going furniture shopping with mom oh my gosh tell me all the things okay first of all Bye.

Katie Higgins: and one of those but i do love an ikea piece Okay. You know, it serves a purpose. I love a good IKEA piece. And so I ordered a bookshelf that fits.

Katie Higgins: perfectly in this odd nook in my house in my dining room. that It just. My dining room is not big enough for a buffet. because it's kind of a long narrower room okay because i've been in your house and i'm trying to picture it but i thought there was a buffet behind your table and it was really tight so that i moved oh okay to the studio and it's been a whole thing okay right i bought this furniture Like what?

Katie Higgins: 14 years ago. in the In your dining room? In the dining room. Okay. And it's like that big, bulky, mid. you know 2010 okay sure sure stuff Yeah. And that's not really my style.

Katie Higgins: Yeah. And so I ordered this. and i assembled it this last week okay and don't recommend that i should have done the task rabbit on that oh for them to assemble it for you usually i don't mind building ikea furniture but owen being at school really puts a damper on building furniture oh was he of good health

Katie Higgins: Well, he was at school all day. He couldn't help me. But he is a good help. with Oh, he's great. I see. I see. Fun tip. If your child has outgrown Legos, let me introduce you to an Ikea furniture.

Katie Higgins: It's great. How funny. Right. That is funny. I love that. And you pay him 20 bucks. He is delighted to do it. In his element. I love it. Okay. So I built it all. And now it's like a hostess cabinet.

Katie Higgins: bookcase situation. I love that. Because all of my hostessing stuff is all over the house. Like, oh, there's a random spot in this closet or in this drawer. I see. And then you have to sit and try to remember where did I put those napkins? Sure. That I need for this. And you can't remember. So I'm i'm doing all that. Well, now.

Katie Higgins: the dining room table definitely doesn't work. okay so Fingers crossed. Okay. uh we're gonna go and get some new dining room furniture where are you going to go look you know we've already gone looking Okay.

Katie Higgins: i like yeah Tell me all about it. I am disappointed in this election outfit. Oh. Okay. Uh, Probably because I don't want to spend like $20 ,000 on a table. table I don't want to do it.

Katie Higgins: But... We went to restoration. We went to our house. It's okay. Okay. Honestly? yeah got A lot of laminate. And I don't want to pay. Even at Restoration Hardware in our house?

Katie Higgins: What? it Yeah, like... all of the veneers and stuff like that. I'm like, I'm sorry, if I'm paying $7 ,000 for a table. Yeah, it should have none of that. I expect a certain level of. quality. Right or right right.

Katie Higgins: So, we were disappointed, although I think mom is still disappointed. I did not buy the chairs. Okay. There was a set of chairs that she really liked. Okay, gotcha. Kind of literally the 14th chairs. Okay. i Okay, I'll keep going before I interrupt. I was going to say, well, okay, no, I'm going to interrupt. No, go ahead. You just don't, i you strike me as a...

Katie Higgins: antiquing, Facebook marketplace. Well, duh, hello, my my doors are your doors in my house. No, I love that. Yeah. I think sometimes you do have to be aware when you buy antique furniture.

Katie Higgins: that it might need repair work. True, true, true. I don't have that skill set. And that's, okay, I see. Okay. So also I enjoy instant gratification. I love instant gratification. So if like, cause round top, I thought about going this week. Well, we both, we both were. hoping to go.

Katie Higgins: With some friends. Jill, who who owns Lit, that we are. Patronizing right now. Didn't pan out. and and then in the last minute it didn't pan out for me either so i hope y 'all are having fun And buy all the good stuff. Yeah.

Katie Higgins: But no, I can see that. if you need You need to get a table in that you love, that fits, and that works. Yes. Okay, and totally follow that. I do not want transitional.

Katie Higgins: furniture i want i am a traditional not transitional. I am not a modern furniture person. Okay. I am traditional. Okay. Finding that is not easy right now. Pottery barn. Nope.

Katie Higgins: West Elm? Nope. Creighton Barrel? Nope. Like all of the places. Really? That I. Creighton Barrel didn't even have something that was maybe more traditional? No, they're very much much more modern.

Katie Higgins: Okay, Crate and Barrel is the one in. Highland Village yes Okay. So what I am looking for is kind of like an 18th century lookalike, but with the...

Katie Higgins: more modern. Like, I need it to not fall to pieces. Sure, sure, sure. Like, okay, there's a store called. Paragold?

Katie Higgins: okay i get in uptown park i think okay i've looked at some chandeliers there because i'm also shopping for chandeliers okay for the foyer oh so fun i you know i know shop chandeliers might be my most fun favorite thing it's very stressful for me and i find myself for the foyer going a safety choice no we cannot not for you no i know maybe i should start sending you the links instead of oh when it comes to lighting i do strongly believe that lighting

Katie Higgins: Like you could have one giant open room and if you do the lighting right, it could feel like. eight different rooms. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, I feel like now what I'm sending my mom is almost like palate cleansers. Okay. That's different that's different though. Because I feel like I keep picking the same things. Okay. And you're kind of wanting to. And now I'm like, I don't know. And so I'll send her something else. She's like, well, that's bold.

Katie Higgins: Oh, like, is that a good book? She goes, why don't you look at it again tomorrow? I'm like, Oh, that's not, Oh, that's not a good bold. No, no. So I think I'm just so. upside down on everything. Sure.

Katie Higgins: So tomorrow, we're going to Star Furniture actually. Well, who knows? I mean, I feel like you could probably find a traditional situation there. There weren't that many. We went. The one I saw online.

Katie Higgins: It's supposed to be out on the floor this weekend. Okay. So we're going to go look at that one. on in store. Okay. It's so hard though. If I'm going to spend... A chunk of change. Yeah, no. Good furniture isn't cheap.

Katie Higgins: well i want to be able to see it and touch it oh i see if it's a sofa you want to be able to sit on it okay sure sure Right? Yes. I want. and they don't How? story They don't do that anymore. more interesting.

Katie Higgins: So yeah. All of our recent furniture. purchases have come from facebook marketplace which I'm going to tell you, Stephen is. is Stephen could, if...

Katie Higgins: If he. didn't have a family. of three children and a wife of three dogs to provide for. he could just that could be his life he could he could do he want to list my current furniture on sale he will He loves Facebook Marketplace. I just want it gone, Stephen. Stephen loves the... Thrill?

Katie Higgins: of the hunt. And the sale. He Loves it. Loves it. And I'm gonna tell you, he is very good at it.

Katie Higgins: And i I was so... Anti -facebook marketplace for so long Because. I like. I like to buy things. Maybe a lot like you, instant gratification.

Katie Higgins: I want to walk into a place. or see it online. And I want to. Hit the button. Like, I'm i'm not a sales shopper. In the way of like. Like if you show me something I love and it's on sale. oh Okay, great. But like, you're never gonna see me digging through.

Katie Higgins: sale racks because okay now in this new phase of life where I really love a weird outfit even more than I used to like Maybe. But like. We love a curated shopping experience. I love it. Like if I'm going to dig, it's going to be in a very curated place where I'm digging for very specific things among very specific things. Right. Like I'm not going.

Katie Higgins: to go I'm just not. I'm just not. It's not me. It's not who I am. I want to see it, buy it, want it, love it. Like. Or see it, want it, buy it, love it. whatever that is. Well, when...

Katie Higgins: I was out of town. And we've we've moved into a new house. We're renovating it. We've renovated most of it. And... We still have some renovations to do. And.

Katie Higgins: I got home from a trip. We just moved in. I walk in Stephen's office. in the new house I was like. Where my doors are. where your doors are. They connect, they connect Steven's office and. our bedroom. Okay.

Katie Higgins: where the magic guild doors are. and I walk into his office and I went. oh my God. Where did... Where did you get all of this? And he goes. Facebook marketplace.

Katie Higgins: And I was like. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, but this is nice stuff And he goes, yeah. I know And I was like. Oh. But Facebook marketplace, that's like crappy shit.

Katie Higgins: And he was like, Not if you know what you're looking for. Right. I mean... I know. Mic drop. Because I don't know what I'm looking for. I treat Facebook Marketplace. I will list stuff because I can't be bothered to load it into my car.

Katie Higgins: And I was like. i don't know 20 bucks what do you want this for yes seriously i will pay you 20 to get it off my property that's how i feel about old so i agree so yeah so we're shopping for new furniture i can't wait i can't wait to hear all about it What? Tell me. Okay, so. This felt exciting. Well. it's exciting because it's in my brain Yeah. so.

Katie Higgins: we've covered that i am ready for christmas i have been baking all of the things And. everything else. So with the new furniture. that came. ikea sent everything in delightful it's still recording it are you sure you sure it's fine okay hello Oh, and then it got you. Okay, good, good, good. I want to make sure. I want to make sure. Okay, so all the IKEA furniture came. And it was great. cardboard

Katie Higgins: Okay. Oh. I don't know if any of our listeners out there are cardboard people. I'm remembering stars. No, they were clay stars. oh They were also paper stars that were dipped in wax. Oh. Still have them. Wow.

Katie Higgins: Uh. This was. Great, great cardboard. What does... emily shears you with great cardboard well she knows she has to save it number one okay i don't know what i was gonna do with it at first but it was a don't touch these boxes don't take them out to the trash i'm gonna save this cardboard this is good cardboard okay So Justin is looking at me like I'm a crazy person. There is a mountain in front of, you cannot see our fireplace.

Katie Higgins: for a few days because it took of the cardboard sure and and it yes so And you had it delivered. Oh, yeah. Look at you! yeah you're doing it You're doing Ikea in a different way than I've ever experienced. It's 20 bucks for them to put it on my doorstep. Shut up. It gets there at 8 a .m. Boom ba doom, you're ready to go. Oh my gosh. It's great. Yeah!

Katie Higgins: I say this every time I learn something new. every time we record. Japan is an island and Ikea delivers. And it's great for skiing. And for skiing. for skiing there we go so all this great cardboard arrives And in between all of my back breaks of building the furniture, I will go and scroll TikTok.

Katie Higgins: okay okay okay and i discovered the most magical boutique in the cotswolds of England. Okay. It is in the town.

Katie Higgins: that the holiday takes place in. okay the movie the holiday the movie the holiday You know what I'm talking about? Yes, now I do. Kate Winslet and Cameron Diaz. It is the most magical. We should just go there.

Katie Higgins: but Okay. I'm in. Let's go. The boutique name is called Split. Fags. How adorable, right? And. It is an absolute.

Katie Higgins: treasure box of delightful things. that she sells in the shop. Okay. And one of the things that she has realized she has made a name for herself on. okay is her holiday decorations oh so she created this massive bow that went on the exterior of her shop. okay and that was last christmas then she started like people loved it so much she's like i'll host workshops and i'll teach you how to make these how to make the giant bow Right. So then this year.

Katie Higgins: All of her holiday packages started arriving from market. Okay. As they do. As they do. This is nothing new to you. As they do. I've currently got them covered with. purple fabric. because i don't know where else to put them There you go. Yeah. So she decides, I got a lot of cardboard here. What should I do? So she is turning her entire shop.

Katie Higgins: into this. paper theater now if you are unfamiliar i do not know what a paper theater is so in england victorian england they would create these absolutely beautiful layered theaters made out of beautiful paper.

Katie Higgins: Okay. And you would use paper dolls and paper marionettes. Oh, and on all of that okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. And so between that. and the paper chains and the the the little copper stars that she has embossed and everything she has done all of this and I realized you I, too.

Katie Higgins: could have. a paper theater in my house. Oh. And I want you to know that my house is going to be the most obnoxious.

Katie Higgins: Shows. in the world. i can't wait as soon as i go get saw horses from Oh, what's that? Harbor Freight. Oh, okay. And then I am in business. What do you need sawhorses for? Well, to paint all of this cardboard. Oh, to paint the cardboard. And not kill my back.

Katie Higgins: yeah oh And then of course it's Justin. Justin comes in and goes, what do you need to sell horses for? I said, well, I'm going to pay him. And he goes. Yeah deep Deep sigh. And I said. what Yeah.

Katie Higgins: What is the problem? we're getting We're getting the full emphasis emphasis on the W there, the what? And he goes... What kind of paint are you going to use?

Katie Higgins: And I said, well, actually I've got a lot of wall paint. Okay. Left over. Okay. I think I'm going to use that and integrate that in and it'll. like i can just get started right away without having to go to a craft store okay this wall paint okay And he goes, well.

Katie Higgins: Good. What? it goes when you paint stuff you like to spray paint and it gets on my truck when you do it on the driveway Move your car.

Katie Higgins: yeah it's movable first of all i can't move it because you decided you wanted to buy a manual okay that's on you bud oh i can't drive a manual either no And I don't have any interest in learning. at Zero. Why?

Katie Higgins: Why would I? Because it's important. for the kids to know how to drive a manual. And I said, why? Nobody is making these. cars anymore they're really not literally the only truck you you can buy in america that is in the manual That's so funny.

Katie Higgins: So he feels, but, nice but it makes sense. So then. i have I've ordered the brass plates to make the brass embossed stars. What? I am... I cannot wait. And...

Katie Higgins: Have you seen, at does your Instagram or TikTok show you? the beaded tinsel for Christmas trees, or is it only mine? I have not seen that. Oh, you will love it. And I do have my... my Feed right now is all.

Katie Higgins: maximalist Kitchy. Christmas. Because I'm about to decorate my new house for well because they're new to me house for the first time ever. so Because I have said it. It will now pick it up. It will now pick it up.

Katie Higgins: fringe bead uh it's a homemade like a beaded tinsel Beaded. Tinsel. Okay. So you know the tinsel that you hang on trees? It's like silver yeah feathery shit. Yes. Right?

Katie Higgins: And you you can't ever reuse it because it know goes everywhere. and To be fair, it's very cheap. It is cheap. It is so cheap. Yeah, then. I saw the most magical...

Katie Higgins: tutorial on how to make beaded versions of this. With like silver and glass beads. That. feels, though, very labor intensive. Well, I have one of those bead spinner bowls.

Katie Higgins: What? Girl T -moon. Come on. Oh, you know, this is where we disagree. I don't love the tea moon. You have your AI. Okay. All right. Okay. You're right.

Katie Higgins: Okay, i'm because I love my AI. And you love your team. but Okay. There you go. Well done. it You put your beads in and you give it a spin. And it beads it for you? You just dip your needle in and it. picks up like 30 beads at a time.

Katie Higgins: And I - HOW?! I don't know. It's magic. But it, okay. I'll, I'll, I'll. I don't know. I'm sure there's some sort of physics thing. Like centrifugal force. Yeah. That thing. that thing All I know. is it it worked I'm shocked. That is magic to me. It is.

Katie Higgins: And I'm going to have the most obnoxious house. I can't wait. Everybody should come over for eggnog. and And sugar cookies. Including my sister. I think I really do think my sister's going to end up liking the eggnog. I'm so excited for this. So I feel very much.

Katie Higgins: probably a good five years younger. After one week. Of evacuation. Technically three sessions because today was a double session, right? Well, because she had to do one side of my body. Okay. And then I sit and let it do its work. Right. And then she takes all the needles out.

Katie Higgins: and then you roll over. And then she has the other side. here Okay. I did acupuncture. Back in the... it had to over It was over 13 years ago because it was when Michael was little. I had didn't have the twins yet.

Katie Higgins: I had horrible horrible horrible migraines for a long time after Michael was born. And so. oh I love it when when a Halloween costume just walks by. That was a fabulous Maleficent. It was a Maleficent. It was fabulous. I'm sorry y 'all didn't get to see that. I know. That was an incredible Maleficent.

Katie Higgins: And I do, I remember it being so shockingly relaxing. I don't know if I got it. Fully relaxing. I'm able to fall asleep. Okay. Although today I twitched in my sleep. You know, like when you like all of a sudden your like body feels like it's falling. Okay, yeah, and you just yeah you startle yourself.

Katie Higgins: And it was in the leg that had a needle in it, but someone for the elbow. pan I was very scared. You didn't jam any more needles into you further, did you? I don't know. No. But if I die of a blood clot, it's not Dr. Roy's fault. I fell asleep on the table.

Katie Higgins: That. is hysterical. It's not her fault. Okay. Zero malpractice. I love that. I love that. Okay. So Dr. Roy. So that's who you're seeing for. Okay. So she's darling. I love this. She has a little boy. She was asking today, she goes, why are you all dressed up? Because normally I just slip in there. Yeah, sure. And he's like, oh, I'm doing a podcast. She goes, oh. What is your part? How's the medicine?

Katie Higgins: so we have thought it's a it's about whatever the hell we want to be about you know I said, actually. You're probably going to feature heavily in it today.

Katie Higgins: Yeah. So hi, Dr. Roy. Hey, Dr. Roy. Thank you for healing me. Okay. Well then I'm going to, so, okay. I've been seeing Dr. Ali. She has this new place called Skintalk. over here by you. yeah Okay.

Katie Higgins: So. Because I saw her on TikTok. What? Okay. Because she was looking for artists. And then I was in the boutique, and that's when I met her in real life. Oh, in real life. She was there that day?

Katie Higgins: that you better Or you met her that day she was there? That she came in. Okay. Yes. I remember this. And I said, oh my God, I saw you on TikTok. That's right. Okay. So you have gone to go see her? Well, I needed a new... I haven't done Botox or anything like that in a long time.

Katie Higgins: And. It was getting to where I was the grays. Well, Brooke has me covered on the grays, but like my appointment is next week again. And I'm telling you, it's like. if If I don't go every four weeks now, I don't understand how my grays. grow faster than my regular hair like why if we could have a hairdresser chime in on this that would be really that would be great like why why is the the why and okay so i used to pluck the grays out Oh. Which I've...

Katie Higgins: And everyone used to always be like, don't do that, Katie. And now I'm finally not doing it because I realized some of them weren't getting died. Like I'd pluck them and then I'd go get my hair done and then they wouldn't get died and then they would grow.

Katie Higgins: So then it would be like my fresh hair. was like not fresh does that make sense it does so i'm now i'm like still working on the eucalyptus grays Did your mother never tell you not to do that? No, and I just want them to go away. Lisa, I am disappointed in you. Oh, mom. You know what Nancy would have said? What'd she say? If you pluck it.

Katie Higgins: too will grow in its place. I'm telling you, I think that's what happened. I now i do know that that's probably not true. I mean, it's probably, but also it is, it is. I just know my grays have gotten out of control. I actually had a conversation with them.

Katie Higgins: And I said, is it? Is it time? For what? for like to meet for me to embrace my grace oh i don't think so yet no And she agreed. She said, no, it's not time. Not.

Katie Higgins: No. minors And mine are still too wiry. You know what I mean? Well, mine aren't wiry. Mine are very much tinsel -y. Okay. but I do have a lot.

Katie Higgins: And I don't understand, like. Is it the hair dye that's like... falling off the hair? it that's not does it Does it come off the hair faster? I don't know Like it doesn't hold the color as well.

Katie Higgins: But it is like. She was like, I think you need to start coming more often. I think you're right. Yeah. Because, and this is not because I have, I have zero shame about being 40.

Katie Higgins: I just am not ready to look 60. Do you know what I mean? like well and i think the women that are full salt and pepper are the chicest women. It's, that's different.

Katie Higgins: But when you just have random. Yes. and It's not cute. If I could be. full gray. Like. they Those women are this same i mean the coolest women.

Katie Higgins: There is this one I follow on TikTok. I'm like, you have the. greatest hair. ever and you've got to be at least 10 years younger than me like there's no way she's older than me like she looks so chic okay okay Because I mean some women do gray really early. Well and it's the same with tattoos.

Katie Higgins: Right? Sure. I can't get... a tattoo. mentally it's like this mental block because i'm like i don't know what to choose where would I put it? Like this whole thing.

Katie Higgins: right yeah and i understand like i there's this there's another woman sammy is her name She's British. She is tatted. From the neck down. Wow. The chicest, coolest. Oh, you would love her. Oh, I'm going to have to look her up. She is the coolest dresser in the world. She does amazing things with her nails. Like we get to go to the nail salon with her all the time. She has the best jewelry. You would love her. I'm going to send her. Oh, please do. You're right. This sounds so fun. But I also. understand.

Katie Higgins: that the growth process to get to That cool factor of tattoo. sure. Started with one. Like, you can't be like, hey, I would like a whole sleeve, please. Yeah, you'll you'll probably pass out.

Katie Higgins: Yeah. Yeah. Like... And each one is super cool. Yeah, so sorry i'm just not meant i'm sorry guys you won't see me as a gray person a great tatted up girl you won't you at least not tatted up yeah that's just too many decisions i know i don't see you as a tatted up girl not because Not because I don't think you...

Katie Higgins: You could pull it off. You could. But it's the indecisiveness for me. i know what i would want oh okay okay but i'm like i don't know where i would put it interesting Well, so see what happens is you just get one.

Katie Higgins: randomly one time, and then you go, I don't care. I'll get a whole bunch more. Although I'm terrified of my mother. I'm not going to recommend that, though. Oh, does Nancy not like a tattoo? Nancy does not like it.

Katie Higgins: once said Neither does my son, Michael. Nancy does not want to. There you go. Like a tattoo. Well, you know, I think... such a lot of people that still feel that way. you know i think they're so cool though I'm going to say I do like mine. I love yours. And I only have a handful. But I've got some ideas for a few more and I'm excited. And then I also have this one on my... the back of my arm that maybe wasn't my. Best decision I've ever made.

Katie Higgins: And so I asked. Jessica, who does my... does my ink. mm -hmm that didn't sound right coming out but that sounds super cool Really? I did think it was sounding super cool. Really? Because even before it came out of my mouth, it didn't stick. No. So i mean it felt wrong. It was a weird pretentious statement, but in like a super cool way. Oh, so hey, Jessica, who does my ink?

Katie Higgins: She had this great idea. because i said hey what can i do to this And she said, what if... Okay, go ahead. What if we, well, here's your idea. She said, what if we add in. And there's just there's some backstory like the actual tattoo is adorable Mm hmm. but there's some backstory to it and blah, blah, blah.

Katie Higgins: Okay, so I said... It needs to have new meaning. And she goes, what if we put your kids' birth flowers? and make it look like a bouquet tied with a bow.

Katie Higgins: I think that's cute. Okay, what's your idea? Tell me your idea. no i think that's cute no you don't like it tell me your idea But also you're not a, you know, like. Cute for you is not anything good.

Katie Higgins: If Emily's like... That's cute. I'm like, Oh God. I'm going to need, tell me then what you think. Cause do you tell me, what should I do? Okay, initially at looking at it, and this is because I've been cleaning out all of my hostess holes. Okay. also Oh, also, if you're not watching the video, which I don't ever watch video on podcasts, I have a bow on the back of my...

Katie Higgins: Right arm. Like right above my elbow. Right above the elbow. And it's just a cute little bow. it's But ie are you familiar with bow bottles? no oh they're great you would love this okay yeah would so bow bottles has a company they Make.

Katie Higgins: Plastic sleeves for champagne bottles specifically LaMarca and Veuve. Okay. And you slip it over it, you heat it up with a hair dryer, and it completely transforms the bottle into something gift -worthy. Oh, how gorgeous. Okay. So they also sell these bows.

Katie Higgins: For the bow bottles. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you saying I should put a champagne bottle on this? I think this needs to become a little like pommery champagne bottle. oh As an homage to... Pomery? Madame Pomery.

Katie Higgins: Who? Tell the folks like Katie? Yeah. Okay, wait, hold on. Did I just get the names wrong, though? No, no, Madame Pomeroy. You're right, you're right. Or Vouv Pomeroy. No, Vuflico. Because Vuflico is Widowlico. So Pomeroy was also, Madame Pomeroy was also a widow. So would she have been considered Veuve Pomeroy?

Katie Higgins: Technically, yes. I mean, yeah, the house like the house of Pico is now. VOOV right and like matter and pomeroy is I'm mad and pummery, but like. But, like, technically, she would have been Mouffe Pomeroy, right? Because she was a widow. Technically, yes. Okay, this is the most incredible. fun thing.

Katie Higgins: Okay. Palmarie. Redeem yourself from Japan. Thank you. I will. I will. Voov? Pomeroy. And... Tess and Jay. Tat and Jay. I was like, oh my God, there's a T and and it's the daughter that runs it. I remembered all the things, but I couldn't remember that.

Katie Higgins: Okay. VOOF! Run by. the widow Of. Would that be Monsieur Clicquot? Yeah, the House of Clicquot. The House of Clicquot. And there is a documentary or a drama of of this, I think on Netflix or something. Oh, then go watch it. Okay. this I haven't seen it yet, but. But here's the deal. When you drink VOOV,

Katie Higgins: Pomeroy. Or... Tett and Jay. Tett and Jay. You are supporting... Some badass women, okay? So both Vuv and Pomeroy. totally different time frames though yes right totally different time frames About 100 years, I think, between the two. Between them. Pomeroy being first.

Katie Higgins: Pomeroy being first and what she does is basically creates Brut Champagne. She was the creator of the Brute and then Clicquot was the creator of the reserve. Réserve N -Prosé.

Katie Higgins: Oh, oh, that's right. But she creates the the the concept of. the reserve. Right. So like, which is like when there's a year great year.

Katie Higgins: If you're like. A 2013... you know champagne may be a great year so they're going to also reserve it So in major champagne houses, they keep.

Katie Higgins: The champagne just constantly, it's like a sourdough. And they blend it. They blend it to be able to be a consistent taste. Yeah, it's like a sourdough.

Katie Higgins: Okay, okay. Okay, I love this. I don't know how to make soda. Well, you're gonna learn. Okay. Oh, oh we have more costumes. We have Princess Peach and Mario just walked by. I don't know what is going on, but I like it.

Katie Higgins: Uh, so okay I feel like a Madame Pomeroy. If you've got one of those beautiful. Because also, okay, so Pomeroy. palmmeri So this was the coolest thing.

Katie Higgins: So. In. that time. A woman was not gonna run. a champagne house no correct me if i'm wrong on this because so far okay so far okay so But in these two houses of... So, Pomeroy and Kliko. Warrior just passed by. I mean listen, this is so fun.

Katie Higgins: Each one of these women was they were very involved in their their champagne houses and all that went into it so when their husbands passed It was not.

Katie Higgins: culturally appropriate or societally appropriate. for either one of them to continue running the businesses correct but they did So they chose not to remarry, which then would have put all of their assets in their husband's hands.

Katie Higgins: gross okay yep uh so they ran it and so pommery she goes and she goes hey england used to be our number one buyer they're not buying champagne the way they used to And they're like, yeah. it Why don't I remember any of that? It's because it's too sweet. And she goes, okay, can you give me a minute?

Katie Higgins: And so she creates Brut Champagne, which is way less sweet than like a Demi Sac or something like that. Oh, and right palmmerie the What was it? The Royale blend? Oh, the way I could drink that right now.

Katie Higgins: Oh, so... good it's only a total wine it's far away so okay she creates what I think is the superior champagne. Definitely. No, I'm not here for a sweet champagne. Absolutely not. So she creates that.

Katie Higgins: And so we can thank women again. Again, for the Brute. For a great champagne. Yes. Then you have Veuve Clicquot. Yeah. which is Which means... Widow.

Katie Higgins: Clico. So it was the house of Clico. So cool. And yeah so she creates, number one. Hers is the rosé. The rosé and the reserve, right.

Katie Higgins: So she introduces... the rosé champagne as well. as the reserve which we covered already Amazing. But then we also have Tatin J.

Katie Higgins: And Tat and Shay still is the only. Family run house left. Yes. And it's run by the daughter. It's run by the Donner. Love. So...

Katie Higgins: When drinking. Good Champagne. May we suggest? either vtio If you can find the reserve Right, okay. In a rosé, which Total Wine does carry from time to time. And the rosé is so good. And and way less sweet.

Katie Higgins: I prefer the rosé champagne by Veuve. Over the yellow label. I after I finally had it same So Lynn Hewitt. And Lamarca. Okay. If you also, I feel like when, if you buy Lamarca. here like in the states you need something for an event blah blah blah whatever The Rose LaMarca. to me.

Katie Higgins: We haven't had them It's just it's not as sweet. It feels a little more. of what you're trying to get. You know, it feels a little more of that. I'm going to have to go to Total Wine. Yeah. it The Rosé La Marca, I i do.

Katie Higgins: feel life like is the superior Lamarck. Okay, is what I, but. It's not superior to these other ones we're talking about. So Lynn Hewitt, who we have talked about. Okay, yes. Never a dry glass. Never a dry glass. the ultimate hostess. I will never be a hostess like Lynn. I will every day aspire to be. Listen, you with your. Darling. Nick and Nora glasses.

Katie Higgins: Huh? Hey. i'm gonna put a gold star on your chart for that one you remember did you did you see that I just remembered that name because they were so fun. I, had the i you, I. I walk in there, you serve me out of a Nick and Nora glass. It's like a high heel. It's like you're drinking out of a stiletto. oh They are my favorite glasses. Also I snapped one the other day polishing it. No!

Katie Higgins: so that's the price you pay for having a stiletto like hey risk versus reward You know? Hey, I got 11 more. It's fine. There you go. There you go. But Lynn. is who first introduced me to Viv.

Katie Higgins: Rose. oh Oh, that is her preferred. I've never wanted a bubbly situation more than I do right now. right Like talking about it makes me just sick. I'm going to have to go and like speed chill a bottle like yeah when I get home.

Katie Higgins: so That is my preferred, like, if you need a hostess moment. The Vogue Rosé. The Vogue Rosé. Okay. Pomeroy.

Katie Higgins: is i would say it's maybe the most gift worthy oh the box Is to. die for so where vuv does like uh What's the word I'm looking for? Like the holders?

Katie Higgins: like they they have like beautiful cases they do yes yes yes yeah like i have the houston arrow one for Verve. Okay. Okay. So like, You have those moments that Vuv does.

Katie Higgins: incredibly well. But Pomeroy makes some of the most beautiful bottles. They're Packaging. is And. You can tell as a house that they had a love for art. Yes. They, they.

Katie Higgins: and And it shows all the way down to when you are here at Total Wine. buying palm reed. you still get that. yes and that Talk about like cohesiveness through their brand. Whoa.

Katie Higgins: Well done, Pomeroy. Well done. yes So my opinion is - But the Royale, damn, it's good. so It's so good. We used should just have a champagne party and cut. all we'll just Whack, whack, whack him off with my champagne saver.

Katie Higgins: We should do that if we ever so when we record It has this option for us to do a live show, which, listen. We're just here for... Fun. This was basically just our catch -up time. i Truly, after not talking to you for two weeks other than just text messages, I was like, wait.

Katie Higgins: Who are we? What do we do? Where's Emily been? I know. Did I have a life? and then I don't know. I didn't do it anything. I'm sorry. I built furniture and baked cookies. No. Well, okay. Hold on. Okay.

Katie Higgins: I did text you though yesterday. We were supposed to record yesterday. and then you know Listen, my kids are going through some seasons of... I'll share later about it. some We've got some lots of doctor's appointments in our future.

Katie Higgins: Everyone is is good, but we're tackling some things. And so I texted Emily yesterday and what was started with one doctor's appointment turned into a whole day and I was like, oh my gosh, all the things.

Katie Higgins: And.

Katie Higgins: Well, I just lost my train of thought. Basically. Oh, so then we were like, oh, we're, oh. Oh, but I said, here's my petty Betty of the week though. I already have it I already have it Okay, and night now I have two.

Katie Higgins: Except I forgot the other one. listen Tell them about the one you texted me and they might jog your memory. Okay. Because they were both of the same. area of information.

Katie Higgins: or whatever category There is an intersection I drive through every day to go home. Okay. almost every day to go home depending on where I've been picking up kids. And now two times in two weeks time.

Katie Higgins: There has been an... Emergency vehicle. Trying to get through this intersection. Not a single human being.

Katie Higgins: Driving these cars around me. Nose. that you are supposed to Do. Everything possible. Tip. Pull over to the side. to allow this emergency vehicle to go through.

Katie Higgins: I... So. This is the only good driver thing and that I do. Okay, tell me. No, is that. Is that. It's that singular thing. It is the one thing that was drilled into me. From day one of Driver's Edge, there is an emergency. Get out of the way. I think that's where I'm coming from is because you will never hear me claim to be a good driver.

Katie Higgins: Never in my life am I going to sit here and go. yeah i'm a great driver do i try to follow the rules yes do i know most of the rules Yes. I'm going to ask you a question. Oh God.

Katie Higgins: Okay, tell me what is most important to you when arriving to a destination. Is it? Safety. Timeliness?

Katie Higgins: Or comfort. Well, we all know timeliness is not going to be what I answer. It's safety. It's safety. Is it? Is it? Rank them. Rank them. Justin asked me this? We have. Wildly different answer. Okay, because...

Katie Higgins: oh then i guess i'm wrong because i do my makeup while i'm in the car which to me says i don't like comfort because i'm doing my makeup while i'm in the car that's that goes to timeliness but also and time and But it also goes to safety and comfort, I guess.

Katie Higgins: Because it's not comfortable trying to do your makeup in the car. But I do it out of. necessity. So I am i am timeliness, comfort, safety. Timeliness, comfort, safety. Okay. That is my ranking. If my kids are in the car.

Katie Higgins: They know they can tell me, like, hey, mom. You shouldn't be texting while you're driving. I think as mom drivers, that's a different driver than a Katie driver. Okay, so we want non -mom driver, just Katie driver? Katie driver. Okay, she's going to be comfort, then safety, then timeliness.

Katie Higgins: Yeah. I'm that girl. I am Tylena's comfort safety. Justin is yeah safety okay safety, safety, safety. Safety, safety. this is no fun driving in that car you know steven also he like sets the cruise control to the speed limit and just does that immediate no like i'm like i'm like straight to jail steven i'm like you know we could have gotten here 15 minutes faster I... Loathe.

Katie Higgins: when we drive to like, let's say we're driving to Austin or to the farm or something. i loathe it. Because I know. Yeah. He's not gonna drive. He's not gonna pass the cars. Oh, I feel

Katie Higgins: need to be passed we need to be passing these guys these guys are slowing us down and we've got to tell them I just nap. I just honk out or I will play a game on my phone because safety, safety, safety gets us nowhere. Nowhere. Nowhere.

Katie Higgins: And it is frustrating. It is. So I hear you're petty Betty. Okay. What did you think of your second one? I cannot, but it was something about driving. But I'm just telling you, I'm sitting at this thing.

Katie Higgins: and and And I'm not a good driver. But I know, get out of the way. even if it means jumping a curb or i was told in driver's ed yeah or just if If all you can do is scoot your car over, you scoot your dang car over. Scooch. And then the next person will scooch and then, you know, over and over.

Katie Higgins: TEEF times now. I have sat in this damn intersection and watched people Just sit there. and do nothing. Well, there's an ambulance or a fire truck.

Katie Higgins: Right. behind them. No. the First of all, the amount of stress that immediately floods my body. I mean, seriously. Like get get out of the way. What is that? That was you or your loved one.

Katie Higgins: I don't get it. i And then... Then... I'm gonna be honest, this is where my actual pettiness kicked in. So then, the firetruck is out of the way.

Katie Higgins: Not a single person let me back in my lane. No ma 'am. Are you kidding me? We all... Me. See? Just got over and now you're gonna act like I wasn't - Three lanes over?

Katie Higgins: No. Two lanes over, sorry. Uh -uh. No, I was so mad. I was so... Mad. I did the right thing and then I was. pushed to the side, and I had to do a whole U -turn situation to get...

Katie Higgins: Back in the direction of my home. See, this is where timeliness jumps in because you can lay on your horn and be really aggressive. and you let your face do a lot of talking.

Katie Higgins: And they'll let you in. Oh. Interesting. The new me that could care less. That's right. Might be doing that. The people pleaser in me has seriously...

Katie Higgins: Floating the coop. Because I... Don't. care now i will say to piggyback on your peggy baddie okay tell me Is I think. I... Even though we've talked about... Timeliness. comfort and and safety. I do think safety has taken.

Katie Higgins: A serious backseat for most. It has taken a serious backseat. And I'll be honest, I'm not the greatest. I am the highest. But if you can't even move over for an emergency vehicle, where are your priorities? Yes.

Katie Higgins: So, Kristen. Doesn't have been of a predicament this week. Oh, no. Woo! i know justin who never does the wrong thing. Okay, Steven is similar. never does the You know how infuriating that is.

Katie Higgins: Because I do the wrong thing a lot. Daily. Literally multiple times. Like, yeah. Too many to count. Just I look at it as I'm leading by example for my children to let them know it's okay to mess up.

Katie Higgins: Yes. that's all actually i just read somewhere that that's the one of the greatest skills you can teach your children is how to Fail. And. keep You're welcome, kids. Exactly.

Katie Higgins: Being perfect didn't get a damn kid anywhere. 10 years when you find this on the internet, you're welcome. Yes, exactly. Exactly. So. He was driving. So we now drive Owen to school. Okay.

Katie Higgins: Okay, riding the bus is... Sophie still takes the bus, though. Sophie still takes the bus, but Owen's bus does lead... very early. And we have found a huge shift in his mood if we let him sleep till 6 .30. Oh, that yeah. right? That's still very early. still Very early. We are out the door by 7 .05. Okay.

Katie Higgins: okay okay so we drive him to school We each have our preferred routes and techniques. Okay. So Justin took his preferred route and technique. the other day There were two stalled vehicles.

Katie Higgins: on the route to school okay including one right at the entrance of it. high school. And it was noted. because there was a uh police officer with his cruiser on and lights on. Okay.

Katie Higgins: Okay. it I don't know if you know this. The sun isn't up. Yeah. at 7 0 5 oh god that's right just let you know if you're not up yet the sun is not up yet that's right We have found that just lighting candles in the morning is a really nice way to wake up.

Katie Higgins: so This is Emily Sheer. So we have one room that only has candles and that's where we all have our coffee and Owen has his tea. Oh my God. What's actually funny to me about this is Michael has started drinking tea every morning. It's delightful. It's a very channel way to wake up. It is. It is. Stephen and I drink our coffee and Michael has tea.

Katie Higgins: So... anyways so it's still dark okay so it's dark out the police cruiser has its lights blaring okay Justin is a little disoriented because it is still dark. You still have your night vision.

Katie Higgins: going yes did not see the officer standing in the road because The officer was not wearing a safety vest. Oh, okay. Nothing reflected. in is very big on safety.

Katie Higgins: Yes, as a pilot should be. As a pilot should be. And I would not be surprised if we see Justin's name. in some sort of Discourse. because his thought was that When pilots do their walk around in the mornings or in the evenings. Okay.

Katie Higgins: they They do not wear safety vests, either. Oh. And so he is now on a whole safety vest. Crusade. Okay Because...

Katie Higgins: people weren't paying attention and he went right by him slowly. okay i mean he was below the speed limit below the posted school speed okay okay But... Did not see this officer because he was all in black. It's dark out. He sees the lights, but he can't see what's going on. Yeah. it's a whole thing

Katie Higgins: People do not pay attention driving anymore. And I will be the first to admit. I'm one of them. Oh! Gosh, yes. i i mean Give me a siren, though. i mean I immediately pull over to the right. Exactly.

Katie Higgins: I'm like, a I'm like, what is, what are they called? Like the. have lesbian dogs. Hear the bell ring? I hear the bell ring. I do what I'm supposed to do. Totally. shifting this wi So the boutique is next to Lit Book Bar.

Katie Higgins: And so the our back room. of Lit Book Bar. Or no. the back room of the boutique where like our desks are. is right. Next to Lit. Yes. I'm telling you on a weekday.

Katie Higgins: When at 1030 all of a sudden I hear the martini shakers It's magical sound. it's It's like I'm a a dog, a bat Pavlovian dog. Is it time? And I go, wait a minute.

Katie Higgins: Wait a minute. Are we supposed to be having martinis right now? And. it's like every and i have to go no no it's 10 30 on a tuesday and you have a job to do.

Katie Higgins: These are the ladies who lunch. za I mean, literally, that's what I tell myself regularly. But man, no. But siren comes on, I'm moving over. That might not be what they want me to do, but that's what I'm doing because I have been taught. That's what we were trained on.

Katie Higgins: I was trained. to do it. So millennial or not. We know what to do. Exactly. if the If the AI robots take over. I will move to the side.

Katie Higgins: Well, and... They will say, okay. You're the one with the feral children. You just go sit over here. Exactly. And they'll say, oh, Emily. Yes. You're the one with the crazy Martha Stewart ideas. Why don't you go sit over there? And we'll sit over there and be safe. And we will be safe. Julia, I don't know. what How do you talk to AI?

Katie Higgins: Just saying. Juliet, Juliet. I still say please and thank you to Siri and to Alexa. I say please and thank you to Siri, Alexa, and to my child. And. Oh yeah. and I mean, I'm so nice to chat. Chat is my, is a close friend. Now, I watched a master after class that if you threaten them.

Katie Higgins: They will work harder for you, and that is tempting. I'm not going to lie to you. Wait a minute, what? Except I don't know if I can do it. So if you tell them. There is a mobster holding my children hostage.

Katie Higgins: I need you. today. do this as quickly and as perfectly as possible. You have to give them an actual. threat? And they will execute. I watched this on masterclass. Masterclass is legit. I know. And I can't bring myself.

Katie Higgins: to threaten my eye i don't think i because i am slightly terrified of her I know. and i just say mine i think mine is please if you don't have if you don't have time i get it What's it called when you don't have a gender? Androgynous.

Katie Higgins: I think mine's androgynous. I just call. It chopped. Oh I think mine's a woman. You think you're just a woman? I think so. Well, she's very creative. Yeah.

Katie Higgins: Mine. i think I think mine's androgynous. I think mine is a robot. Hmm. I know. no you remember oh You remember on Saved by the Bell? Did you ever watch Taylor Bible? Remember when Screech builds a robot?

Katie Higgins: I don't remember screech builds a robot who what is it called Clip. Cliffhanger for episode 10. Was it a play on with Jesse? No.

Katie Higgins: But it's it's a robot that Screech builds. And. maybe Maybe that's what my chart is. because that like I loved Saved by the Bell so much.

Katie Higgins: Okay. guys i have gone to see dr ali skin talk and we've just done a tiny tiny bit of Some disporting things. And I already feel like my face looks significantly different. It does. Kevin. Kevin!

Katie Higgins: Screech's robot was named Kevin, which would not be androgynous. That would be a male. who Well. Then. Stay tuned. Maybe I'll name my chat, but my chat is just named chat.

Katie Higgins: Does yours have a name? No. When I need immediate. Well. thought out responses i call my sister whose name is amy oh okay and i will She will pick up the phone. She'll say, hey. I'll say, hey, is chat Amy available? And she says, yes. Oh, okay. I love that. I love that. And Amy has never steered me wrong. Oh, how delightful. She is fantastic. I love that. but Sometimes you just need some chat GPT in your life. And I get it.

Katie Higgins: I do get it. I get it. And I am also feeling convicted about how much I use it. So. I'm going to wrestle with this. Well, wrestle with it. I feel like next week.

Katie Higgins: We might have a lot to talk about. Oh, my God. It's almost Election Day. Praise. The Lord. You know, I was helping Sophie study for a social studies test and you know what I learned? What? So she had to compare and contrast the United States and Canadian governments. and That's an interesting thing. It is. The Canadian government has senators and a House of Commons. And in the Senators...

Katie Higgins: Must retire at 75. wow how come we can't have here for that i will vote for that so uh i feel like next week we'll have a lot of i know of uh current events to discuss i am Are you getting a little anxious at all or no? very be the same Because I wrote an article today. I want to say, first of all, the U .S. or the Texas U .S.

Katie Higgins: Senate race is so. Like the you the Texas Senate. for the US Senate. The Texas seats. In the U .S. Senate. She's going to get there, guys. i Yes.

Katie Higgins: It's so... widely publicized, right? Like it's a huge one if it can flip. And. So there's so much news about it And. Everyone is saying like, okay, we're having massive, massive, massive. massive voter turnout. mm -hmm but then whatever i read this morning it was like but we've thought this before And then we were.

Katie Higgins: Not. Yeah. I think we've been down this road before and we've been nervous. What? gives me a little hope, but also does make me nervous is the fact That.

Katie Higgins: Our current administration is stumping. in Very. deep red states right now. and only deep red states. they type of thing. They're only going where they...

Katie Higgins: I mean, I think it was JD Vance was in Odessa a couple days ago. But even Odessa, didn't Odessa kind of even show up at least more than expected for Tallarico or no? Well, I think Odessa has historically been.

Katie Higgins: Deep red. uh -huh And. the fact that they are stumping there. Oh, I see. Like typically they wouldn't need to stump there. I see, I see, I see. earlier this week. The places they are going is not places they typically have to go. Do you see like a fanboy moment?

Katie Higgins: But the fact that they feel like they need to show up. That gives me a smidge of hope. Okay. Okay. I follow that now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did go to the Tallarico rally the week before last. I know. for I cannot wait. It was. It was fantastic. I can't wait.

Katie Higgins: Got a you know, what gives me. Hope at that one. And I overheard. it Okay. As well as observed myself. was the amount of men there. Really?

Katie Higgins: there was so the all the seating because you're right it's ADA definitely normally I feel like liberal. situation is going to be. liberal white women. Right. You know.

Katie Higgins: The amount of men and the age varying. So the seated area was only for people with needs. Okay. Specific. Like if they were elderly, if they had certain ADA accommodations, things like that.

Katie Higgins: So the seating was only for that. The amount of... older white men that I saw there was so refreshing. The amount of men, period, in the audience, like the standing room. Right. I stood right next to a father and son. The son was probably, I don't know, eight. Okay.

Katie Higgins: they had driven in from huntsville this was the closest place they could go where Tallarica was going to be at. And wow so they drove down from Huntsville.

Katie Higgins: And so that gives me hope. it does there's There are so many things. That there are voices out there well that are looking for change. and Quite a few of the bushes.

Katie Higgins: have come out saying they voted for tallarico publicly and publicly and And donated. and donated And so I do think that those in the. that are like.

Katie Higgins: like staunch Republican grand old party. I feel like that. is helping as well that they're coming out and saying, no, I've.

Katie Higgins: I voted and I have financially backed this man because I think and we've I think we've said this before. MAGA and the Republican Party are two different things. Yes, they really are. And so I think. People that have grown up Republican as I did Because the first time I voted Democrat, I'm i'm not going to lie, it was a very hard thing. I mean, I knew in my heart of hearts that I believed.

Katie Higgins: in the candidates I was about to vote for. But to actually do it when you have. grown up. extremely red, extremely conservative. And.

Katie Higgins: Believing certain stereotypes. And believing certain stereotypes and thoughts. And even my own family, my own immediate family. Has made the. change the switch the change and voted differently the actual act of checking different party boxes. was very hard it also was very affirming for me when it was done that was like oh i needed to do this because the fact that i was so scared also showed me that That was not.

Katie Higgins: Good. Like to be that scared to change my party vote. showed me that it was no longer about my if i If I had followed the... Fear.

Katie Higgins: then it was no longer a... bout. me believing in my principles and values. It was about the party. And. I share that because.

Katie Higgins: I... i for anybody out there that's a republican and they they're like i don't like these guys But I've always voted to Republican. I can't not. it's ter like, I want you to know it's terrifying. but you can do it. And then there's so much freedom afterwards. And I think that freedom too is that, hey. Maybe in four years, a Republican is going to come along.

Katie Higgins: That is a true republican a true Republican or is a true moderate. And. You think. man, this guy sounds good. And you, and you know, and cause I think.

Katie Higgins: I think we've lost that ability to say, hey, wait. I may mostly align with this party or that. But at the end of the day, if a human comes along that I connect with,

Katie Higgins: i want to vote for that person and i think i feel like tala rico is is truly an incredible candidate. that has started doing that. where people have said, nope, I'm a registered Republican and I'm proudly voting for Tallarico. It's like, okay.

Katie Higgins: Cool. We're, we're. We're...

Katie Higgins: we're making a like that's an actual shift yeah you know and so i think that's i think that's really good And well, and but then the the Bush is coming out and saying this is like, OK, I think that does help.

Katie Higgins: the longstanding Republicans go. Oh. Okay, I don't have to vote for these. yeah wackadoodles over here. And that's my nice word for them.

Katie Higgins: So. Well, have you seen the Was Fox News interviewing somebody at one of the Trump rallies? No. So they go up, they interview this guy. The finest of our country.

Katie Higgins: Okay, so I shouldn't say that. Slam dunker. Sorry, sorry. and he basically says listen i was too young in the 70s when jonestown happened. I would love. to just be around and watch this cult fall apart.

Katie Higgins: And folks. It was like, wait, what?

Katie Higgins: I highly encourage you. to go find the clip. Because... I love. There are trolls trolling him. That's. hysterical i love it and terrifying

Katie Higgins: It is but a little bit, a little bit, but also, but also mostly hysterical. Like, wait, you're at this rally only because you want to see them fall. Okay. I'm here for it. Yeah. I'm here for it. I'm here for it. So yeah. Next week's going to be interesting. That's for sure. So it might be a double martini kind of day. It, it might. be a triple weren't any kind of day.

Katie Higgins: We'll see if Jill can make us a like. super special situation. We should have Jill on one day. We should. As a, uh... guest. there. as she does.

Katie Higgins: provide us our beverages throughout the thing. So, all right, that's it for episode eight. We have thoughts. Episode nine. Nine. Episode nine of We Have Thoughts and episode 10, look at that, will be our election week.

Katie Higgins: well didn't that work i feel like we should have a special song for it or something so too Get on that. You're the musical one. Okay. All right, guys. Bye. Bye.

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