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This week it's a good old fashioned Garrett and Chris mess around! Garrett and Chris ask classic wrestlers the hard hitting questions, they chat wrestlers in movies, WWE Backlash, GCW gossip and more!
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Nostalgia and Virtual Friendships
00:00:35
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predeterminate Pro Wrestling Hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender, and with me, as always, Chris Miggs. I'm back. It's good to be back. I really enjoyed last week's episode. I wish I could have been hanging out with you guys watching Brian Knobs matches. It did strike me that it would be a very Death Valley driver thing to be like geeking out over Brian Knobs matches. Like that would have been a thing that like the Death Valley driver is like, we watched seven Brian Knobs matches so you don't have to.
00:01:06
Speaker
I love doing things so other people don't have to do it. That brings me a lot of joy. I was really sad not to see you because that's the first week in quite a while that I didn't get to see your face once.
00:01:22
Speaker
I know, it just didn't work out. I mean, you had, again, you had facts, but you had just facts his face. You had him in the flesh. Yeah, I got to, I mean, I told him in person, he seemed a little offended by it, but I said, you're taller than I remember you being. And that is a compliment, but you know, like we're looking at each other in a little square right now and I don't know what's going on with your legs. Maybe they're long today.
00:01:47
Speaker
It's true. I had someone started working for me in the pandemic and I finally met them in person. And I was like, this dude, I thought he was like five, nine. He's six,
Post-Pandemic Surprises and Wrestling Humor
00:01:56
Speaker
three. I was like, oh shit. Like he just see maybe he slouches a little bit. I just had to be a vision of him of being a somewhat below average, average height man. He's in fact, uh, far above average in terms of his height. Um, no, no, it just, it just changed my conception of him and I had to understand him differently.
00:02:14
Speaker
You're like, I did not fire him, but I did have him get a frisbee out of a tree for me. I will say that only it's hard. It's always difficult when I listen to you guys do the show. It's a joy, but also because I it's difficult because I want to jump in and add comments. I realize that I can't.
00:02:31
Speaker
Um, by nature, I'm, I'm, I'm hopping in there. The only note that I will make on the podcast is that I really can't believe you guys miss the very obvious Brian knobs match at, um, at spring break next year, which is of course, Brian knobs against Florida, man. It has to happen. Knobs needs the work spring break needs to get back to its roots and book wacky matches. Right. But it's probably going to be like Janela versus Ocada or something.
Travel Plans and Reality TV Comparisons
00:03:01
Speaker
Not nearly as good, but like legitimately we've talked about how like we think we're going to Philly next year. It's lot. There's a lot of wrestling. Who knows what we're going to be able to actually go see if they announced knobs versus Florida, man, I will clear out anything else to make sure that I'm in the room for knobs versus Florida, man.
00:03:19
Speaker
front row. I mean, honestly, if we can't get tickets, we're going to do like Taylor Swift fans did. We're going to get a job at the venue so that we can be in the room just to see it while it's happening. That's wow. That's dedication. It also just kind of makes sense.
00:03:34
Speaker
I saw there, there have definitely been instances on this like insane Taylor Swift tour where people have gotten hired, worked like a week or two leading up to it. And then the night of the show just abandoned their post and disappear into the venue. There's no one, there's no one there to sell you French fries because they've abandoned.
00:04:01
Speaker
I'm a little upset that we're recording right now. Why's that? Succession just came on. Oh.
AEW vs. Reality TV Dynamics
00:04:10
Speaker
I could've. See, I'm not a big, I've watched a little succession, but I'm not a succession guy. No wrestlers in it. Yeah, I actually had a question for you, Garrett, because I was listening to the episode from a couple weeks ago. You mentioned Lisa Vanderpump, and I,
00:04:29
Speaker
I do know that Vanderpump Rules is a popular television show because every week and I read The Observer, Meltzer mentions the Vanderpump Rules rating relative to the AEW one, because it seems to, that seems to be one of the biggest competition. So I have a question for you, Garrett, that I'm hoping, I hope this doesn't derail our conversation too badly, but who is Lisa Vanderpump? She is a rich British lady who loves dogs and has a restaurant.
00:05:00
Speaker
Okay, and the show is about the restaurant? I think that Vanderpump Rules, which I have not watched. I used to watch her with my wife on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. So it's a spin off of that. Okay, okay. Which I think she got into enough fights with cast members that she left, but it's popular enough that she got her own show. And I believe this show is about the wait staff at her restaurant fucking each other. Oh, interesting. So it's really, so,
00:05:29
Speaker
It's interesting. So kind of Lisa Vanderpump is CM punk and Vanderpump rules is kind of AEW collision. If AEW collision is in part about like the, like that what's going on beneath, you know,
00:05:53
Speaker
Yeah, who's gonna fuck each other on this show, though? Like, Rusev's been looking... I mean, it seems like he's not interested in working, to be honest. But you are on to something here, where this is... This is a spin-off that exists solely to keep a character alive on a show that the person no longer wants to be on, because they can't get along with a co-worker. Wow! Got in too many fights. Wow! They got in too many fights, but they're too popular to let go, so they gotta have their own show.
00:06:20
Speaker
And, but it's not going to be, it's going to be about them, right? But it's going to be about other people too. Presumably FTR seemingly maybe Miro and Thunder Rosa. Thunder Rosa is actually another one who probably got into too many fights. Thunder Rosa rules as well.
00:06:40
Speaker
It is crazy, though, that the two biggest shows week to week on television highest ratings is pro wrestling and either the Real Housewives or Real Housewives spinoff.
TV Habits and Celebrity Encounters
00:06:53
Speaker
And basically those two shows are the reason that we have Sling. We don't watch a single other show on live television except those two things.
00:07:06
Speaker
Uh, the only, the third thing that we watch other than reality shows like 90 day fiance or married at first sight and wrestling. There's a third thing that goes on my sling, which is the mass singer. Um, because we have a five year old and you can entertain them with, um, singing like parrots or whatever is singing. Also, I happened to just really enjoy a good mystery.
00:07:36
Speaker
Of course, technically kind of wrestling adjacent because Alexa Bliss was on. No shit. I did. I didn't know that. Yeah. Erica was on the last season. Alexa Bliss on this season. It's they got all they're running out of people to unmask. There's there. There's going to be a lot of like there's going to be at least one wrestler a season now for sure.
00:07:58
Speaker
And a friend of the show, my buddy Luke, he is actually, for years, was the editor on that show. Big pro wrestling fan.
00:08:08
Speaker
So, you know, he did, he also did dancing with the stars. He's the one that got, um, Nikki Bella to sign my Nikki Bella hat. And he showed her a photo of me dressed as her for Halloween one year, and then recorded a video of her reaction seeing that. And she said hi to me in a video. And one, was I aroused? Yes. Two, was I thrilled? Yes. What was her reaction though? Um, she said I looked hot.
00:08:36
Speaker
That's, that's the right answer. I think they're right. She's just like, yeah, anyone dressed like me clearly looking hot.
00:08:43
Speaker
Even, yeah, even if he's, you know, a little chubby in some booty shorts, uh, that was, yeah, that was a good night. I still have that hat and I loved wearing that hat to like P W G or two. It was, it's kind of like, um, the control your narrative shirt. It's always going to get a pop somewhere. Oh, that reminds, we have not checked the control your narrative website to see if there's a, a going at a business sale recently.
00:09:11
Speaker
How many months past are we on me getting this fucking comic book I paid for? I mean, a long time. I, you know. How long have we been doing this show? Like, how long is the new version of predetermined existed at this point? Like 10 months. Wow. Are we going to do something special for a year? We should. Will the year come up on the Appalachian trip?
00:09:39
Speaker
it could be right around there. Um, cause I guess you're right after forbidden door. Yeah, but I think we, again, it wasn't until it was right after summer sun weekends. That would have been the end of July or early August last year. So it was still a couple months, which would come right when I think we're going to go down to
Personal Adventures and Wrestling Events
00:09:59
Speaker
Appalachian. Now I have a point here to make about Appalachian and I'm, and I have some, something I haven't shared with you yet. Garrett, um, I sent around, so,
00:10:09
Speaker
Uh, we were talking about, look, we got, we got to go to the BW three, although we were intrigued by wrestling at a county fair. Yeah. And definitely can't go to the county fair made decision. I'm going to go to the last three dead in company shows. I was able to get a very cheap flight. Got to figure out the tickets, but I'm like, I'm going, I want to, I want to be there for the end. Is that in San Francisco? San Francisco. Hell yeah. Um, but that's, that's going to be a real fun, but that we eat at my favorite restaurant while you're there.
00:10:37
Speaker
Sure, I have no plans. I've been going to concerts. Last time I went there, I went there to go to the Cow Palace for New Japan. And I rented a car just across the bridge and go to Sausalito to eat at a restaurant called Fish. Just fish with a period. So fucking good. Absolutely worth renting a whole car, driving across the bridge and eating for the afternoon.
00:11:06
Speaker
Sounds good. Again, I got multiple afternoons of stuff I got to, I got to figure out. So, um, that'll be, that'll be one thing. But so that week, right. That week are the fair shows and I sent her, I sent you last night, Garrett, they announced the lineup for the first fair show. We got Shane Douglas. We got Al Snow. Uh, we got Ricky and Carrie Morton, a solid lineup for the fair. Right. I think we, I think we agreed on that. Yeah.
00:11:31
Speaker
But today, Garrett. Oh, no. Today, they announced the lineup for the second fair show the next day. Oh, my God. So we got we got Shane Douglas, of course, and we got the Mortons in the Al Snow spot. We've got the Barbarian again, fun, right? We're having a good time with the fair. Also on this show, Bobby Beverly. That's that's kind of fun. That's different. The Bev. Yeah, the Bev. Yeah.
00:12:00
Speaker
We got Matthew Justice, right? I wanna see Matthew Justice jump out of something at a fair. That's gonna be really fun. America's favorite cool guy, maybe jumps off the tilt-a-whirl, maybe jumps off the top of a Ferris wheel. It could be anything. All sorts of dumb things for Matthew Justice to jump off of. You're building this up to something. I can't, like, what, I'm in suspense. Who's there? Beastman Garrett. Oh! Beastman at the fair.
00:12:30
Speaker
Oh. That's going to be a good one. It's going to be a good one. I really I'm really looking forward. I hope they film it. I hope they put it on the YouTube channel, because man, would I be ready? Do I want to watch some Beastman at the fair? We found out this week that Beastman just left his nine to five. I hope because he's all elite. Only time will tell on that. But his nine to five is he was a bus driver.
00:12:59
Speaker
And if we had known that, he would have absolutely kicked us off that bus. We would have sat. What kind of bus was he driving? Like a city bus. Okay. They have, okay. Okay. I guess they have, I just, in the South, I assume there's no public transportation. That's my New York bias. I just assume there's no public transportation.
00:13:23
Speaker
You're canceled, by the way. But I saw he pulled that post down, because I think he, I don't know. I would have shown up at his job, and we would have, on Beastman's final day, we would have ridden the bus his whole shift. And just get the us chant going. I hope, maybe he's signing somewhere. Maybe it's impact, I don't know.
00:13:53
Speaker
Probably, I mean, who's going to sign with GCW at this point? It seems like people are getting mad at GCW. Well, here's what I want to know. What did Alex Cologne do to get canceled? Cause my assumption, the only, the only people who work for XPW are been canceled. So did like Alex Cologne, like, did you, did you like expose himself or something as like a Louis CK thing? I don't, I'm just curious. Like what's his vibe that got him to XPW?
00:14:20
Speaker
I mean, from what we could tell, so we saw a series of tweets today where Alex Cologne had tweeted something about being mad that Lauderdale, I love that we've got GCW gossip now. We've spent years gossiping WWE, gossiping AEW, GCW had nothing. Here we go. That's how you know they're big time.
Wrestling Community Drama
00:14:43
Speaker
Now it's all gossip. Now it's nothing but deathmatch gossip.
00:14:47
Speaker
And yeah, those guys just, it seemed like they all had it together. Never anything weird came out about them. Yeah, so Alex Cologne said something about being angry that Lauderdale said that he paid him a dollar more than John Wayne Murdoch at a death match. And that pissed him off and he left.
00:15:10
Speaker
And then Lauderdale had a series of like 10 tweets explaining- He's like, I did everything for you, motherfucker. He's like, you're gonna be so- I took you to Japan. He's like, I took you on a trip that you always wanted to go on. I paid for your flights. I put you in the presidential suite in North Carolina. No, it's a weird, like the whole death match thing recently, the vibe and the community has been a little bit weird.
00:15:41
Speaker
But yeah, I'm just, I like Alex, it's like the XPW, he's signing his last couple of weeks, Tessa Blanchard and Alex Cologne. Which I would be, I'm so excited. You saw the picture, right? Matt met Tessa Blanchard.
00:15:53
Speaker
Yeah, friend of the show, Matt, he met, he met her in person. And, uh, I mean, it sounded like she was nice, but we also agreed. He is a, he is a white man. And, uh, allegedly she hadn't been so nice behind the scenes. Um, she, she liked his, she liked his accent. I think who doesn't.
00:16:15
Speaker
But you know, but maybe that's the beginning of something beautiful. That's all I'm saying. I just want people to find love. Maybe that's it. He's the nice boy. She's the bad girl. And he's going to show her, put her on the straight and narrow, like show her a life without hate and bias.
00:16:33
Speaker
I don't know. I'm really, we didn't talk about Tessa Blanchard much. I always very much enjoyed her wrestling. I thought she was a very exciting wrestler. She's very good at wrestling. But it seems like unanimously, like everybody did not like working with her. No one, no one seems like it. Which is, that sucks. Like she, maybe she should go to like some sort of personality rehab because
00:17:02
Speaker
I liked what was going on with her winning the impact champion. That's the most interesting thing to happen to that company in a minute. Look, you know. I think I think XPW, it's it's just perfect. It's like if you if you have any weird feelings about professional wrestling, I can't believe Marty's girls not in fucking XPW yet, just. I'm surprised with umbrellas.
00:17:31
Speaker
the thumbtack covered umbrella. You're right. Like it's still a company that I feel weird talking about, but I don't know. It's too weird not to watch. And I think it's all built in. I like that it's all built in. There's no complicated feelings about XPW. You're just like, look, I know I shouldn't be doing this.
00:17:55
Speaker
It's like drinking and driving. You're like, this isn't a good idea. And people are going to look down on me for doing it. But just all, you bring all your deepest sense of shame. Like we all have, we all have dark places in our soul and we go to ours by watching X P W. So what, that makes me really sad though. Did Slack do something? Or is he just a good boy in an island of misfit toys?
00:18:22
Speaker
I mean, the schlack thing was always that he was like, seemed to be friends with some people who may have liked Nazis, but it wasn't, he said he, he didn't like Nazis or something or. He said he has nothing to do with that. And.
00:18:38
Speaker
Also, I thought, I remember there was a day that we were trying to remember Schlack's email address from when I bought that shirt. And I thought of it over the weekend. It just popped into my head. I remember going to Schlack at that death mat show saying, do you have like Venmo or PayPal? It's like, I've got PayPal. He's like, yeah, it's uselessdrunkardatgmail.com. Schlack might have just lost his way towards, like he doesn't know, I mean,
00:19:06
Speaker
I mean, although Slack has appeared, the one thing about Slack is he has appeared for GCW since working for XPW, which is not true of a lot of other people. Right. I mean, they took him to Japan, I think. Yeah. They did that. He did that JCW show in November after. So maybe he's just like, they're just like, whatever Slack, he can do whatever he wants. Don't, don't worry about it.
00:19:27
Speaker
Schlack is bigger than Restylane. He's, yeah, you're not gonna say no to him. It's like if Bruce Springsteen came to your coffee shop and wanted to do the open mic, you're not gonna make him wait. You're gonna bump him to the front of the line.
00:19:45
Speaker
I don't know if that's a. They're great analogy for each other. It's a perfect analogy. What are you talking about? Slack is like is like, are are the guys from war political? Can you cancel the guys from guard? No. They're just going to go wherever the fuck they want. Which one of them is wrestling?
00:20:10
Speaker
There you go. The, the old lead center, like one of the original founding members, a guar like does shit with the Santino brothers wrestling school in LA. I mean, he's eventually going to wrestle Slack, isn't he? You've got to all roads lead to Slack. I have had a little trouble concentrating on wrestling this week.
Fast and Furious Fandom
00:20:32
Speaker
Um, this is a big week. Do you know what comes out this week?
00:20:38
Speaker
Is it the Fast and Furious movie? It is. The road is coming to an end, my friend. Fast 10. John Cena is in it so we can talk about it. Pro wrestling. Pro wrestling. But and the fact that on this show, I went and saw Hobbs and Shaw 14 times said it was for the show, but it was for me and. They announced this week, Vin Diesel said in an interview
00:21:06
Speaker
They're not wanting this to be two movies for the end. Surprise, we might be getting a third. The final movie is a trilogy. And then the last movie in the trilogy, that's its own trilogy? Yeah. You're never gonna stop watching Fast and Furious movies, Garret. I hope not. I hope not. I'm here. They bring me joy. They bring Orange Cassidy joy.
00:21:35
Speaker
There's always cars to drive and there's always family, always family. I heard that this one doesn't talk as much about family and that some people are a little upset about that.
00:21:47
Speaker
Now that seems surprising because again, I saw the trailer and it appeared to be Vin Diesel saying family followed by a car flipping over, then him saying family again, then another car flip. It was just an alternation between Vin Diesel either saying something about family or something vaguely referencing family and then cars flipping over. It sounded like that was the entire movie, which seems great. I don't know.
00:22:10
Speaker
People make fun of these movies, but those same people have watched 45 of the exact same Marvel movie. So, you know, we only have. What, this is 10 plus Hobbs and Shaw. We've got 11 of these lettuce like what we like. What is your favorite pro wrestler in a movie movie? Oh, favorite pro wrestler in a movie. Hmm. That's interesting one.
00:22:39
Speaker
Because I feel like, well, one I really love is, of course, Hulk Hogan in Rocky III. That's a classic. Yeah, like an actual fun watch. I feel like there's a good amount of bad, like I put bad movie in quotes. There's no such thing as a bad movie. There's just movies that need to be watched differently. But yeah, no, that's a legitimate one. That was a big Hollywood hit.
00:23:06
Speaker
I also, when I was unemployed the last time about, oh God, it was about 10 years ago.
00:23:15
Speaker
maybe a little more, but I was in a little bit of a weird place, Garrett, and at the time, I had Netflix, this is pre-streaming even, I had the DVDs. And I made a decision, which is that I was gonna watch all of the WWE produced movies, but not the Marine, because who needs to see those? I watched Triple H and the Chaperone. Oh, hell yeah, yeah.
00:23:45
Speaker
And that's, I mean, I don't really remember much about it, but it was pretty weird and better than it had any right to be, which is to say tolerable, which is more than it had any right to be. You know, they didn't put a lot of time into the script, but God damn it, if Triple H doesn't have charisma, and that is what they saw in him when they put him in Blade 3. And, you know, not enough people have taken advantage of Hunter being in a movie. It was him and Jan from The Office.
00:24:15
Speaker
Hell yeah. Hell yeah. That's an all-star cast. An all-star cast. There's also a really weird big show movie. Which one? That was less good. I don't even remember what it was called at this point. Was he playing Santa? Was he? No, I think he was just large. Ah, I'm going to title it large and in charge. Or, um,
00:24:45
Speaker
Knucklehead. Okay. No, I didn't see that. Have you have you watched many of the others? Like I've watched a couple of the Ms. Marines and I definitely watched. Fuck. What was the John Cena? There was the scene. I was sorry. I apologize. I was I was I was moving. I was moving these two movies together. Jan from The Office is in the big show one.
00:25:13
Speaker
It shows how much I remember these movies. There was the one that Randy Orton was like an ambulance, oh, 12 rounds. And then, so Cena was in 12 rounds, Randy Orton was in 12 rounds too, but 12 rounds three, baby. The only movie I can think of that has a death match wrestler in the lead role, Jon Moxley. Oh, you know, I kinda now, I kinda wanna see that now. 12 rounds three.
00:25:44
Speaker
Yeah, I don't remember being super good, but, you know, he's he does have a gun at one point, only 12 rounds in it. But just to watch mocks, you know, apparently Randy Orton was also in a movie called That's What I Am. It's it's a comedy drama. He's like a school teacher or something in that. Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:10
Speaker
I got to see. Yeah, I think this happened. I think, you know, it happened happened, Garrett. That came out after I got a job again. And we didn't have the time to have a job. You're not allowed to have a good time anymore. You're like. I could I just didn't I just didn't you know, I had other things to worry about. Also, there's a movie starring Brodus Clay called No One Lives.
00:26:33
Speaker
That's because at the end, everybody kills themselves before they get to the end credits. Cast and viewers. It's really more like a The Ring tape that you put in that VHS tape and you die.
00:26:49
Speaker
Oh man, I really, are these on any extremely, I feel like, I feel like this could be another aspect of our podcast. We could really deep dive into some of this weird, weird, weird. It's really fucked up also to me. Like just saying that, yeah, you're right. Somebody absolutely needs to watch the Brodus Clay movie. It's probably going to be me. Um, but the fact that none of us
00:27:15
Speaker
have watched The Good Shepherd, to see Jimmy Lloyd in the background of a movie starring Robert De Niro. Well, that's, you know, we should talk about Jimmy, right? Because Janela did post the picture from that trip also with Hulk Hogan and Jimmy Lloyd.
00:27:36
Speaker
He said he told Hogan that Jimmy was a kid with only six months left to live and got a picture. I didn't believe. I just think Hogan was nice about it. I think they told him that. I have no reason to believe that Joey Janela would lie about something depraved.
00:27:56
Speaker
Fair enough, fair enough. Plus it says, write on the website, this is not a meet and greet. This is not an autograph signing. This is not a photo opportunity. Leave him the fuck alone and sing your song while he eats his fish sticks. But that's true because he's, you know, but Hogan's in a lot of make a wishes and when you met Jimmy, he was like, that's a make a wish kid. Is he still? I'm probably not, but in the past. Yeah, it's like mostly proud boys that have wishes.
00:28:32
Speaker
Okay. So I watched a wrestling match. I just want to say though, WWE produced a lot of movies. I just want to point that there's so many of them. I can't believe how many of them there are. They produce some without wrestlers. I remember my wife, like before we were married because God bless her. I was, when we started dating, I didn't watch pro wrestling.
00:28:55
Speaker
Like this obsession happened a couple years and us dating and that fucking sucked for her because when I started getting into it, I got into it hard. Clearly, like this many years later, I'm still in front of a microphone.
00:29:14
Speaker
shouting about the minutia of pro wrestling. And it was awful for her. It got to a point where she's like, you cannot talk to me about any of this stuff anymore. I don't care. It's like you find somebody else to talk to. She went with a friend. She got invited to go see the movie Oculus.
00:29:34
Speaker
And as she sits in the theater, the WWE logo pops up on the screen as the producers. And she's like, what the fuck? I think it was hard for her because after you're aware of it, pro wrestling is everywhere. It's true. It's like glass shattering, which of course is just stone cold Steve Austin's theme song. Yes. Yes.
00:29:56
Speaker
No, that's actually true for me, too, that like I was definitely not at like a peak in my wrestling watching. I was probably watching a little bit, but I was definitely not at a peak when my wife and I met.
Wrestling Fandom and Celebrity Influence
00:30:07
Speaker
I was here and there, you know, bits and pieces, but it was not like, you know, 30 percent of my personality at the time. Yeah, I got it was the fucking free seven day or 30 day free trial of the WWE Network.
00:30:24
Speaker
which I started watching like old Wrestlemanias and I was like, man, I did like this a lot. And it was right into the lead up of Daniel Bryan. And it was like that WrestleMania 30. And I remember the night of that pay-per-view, I'm sitting in our living room, fucking crying about pro wrestling. I'm like, this is a dream. I had no idea who he was before that. I didn't know Bryan Danielson was. I knew Daniel Bryan solely from that.
00:30:53
Speaker
And then from there, somebody's like, oh, you live in LA and you like go to PWG. And then basically my entire life changed and ruined to hers slightly. We have a child now that is not named Jimmy Lloyd. Unfortunately. You were going to watch a match. You were watching a match, although if you want to talk
00:31:16
Speaker
No, since I said Jimmy Lloyd is not our child, it would be wrong of us to bring up the Good Shepherd and Jimmy Lloyd without pointing out that this week, Jimmy Lloyd got a new little brother as Robert De Niro just had a seventh child at the age of 79. Congrats, Bobby D. Congrats. What happens when you name two kids, Jimmy Lloyd? Does he become junior?
00:31:43
Speaker
Yes, yes, and they become a tag team. He deserves a partner. He deserves to be a member of this podcast, honestly. But, okay, so I watched a match this week. We will talk about wrestling 30 minutes into recording. And you claim that I didn't enjoy it. And I think that's mean. Who are you to tell me what I do and do not like?
00:32:12
Speaker
I liked Omos versus Seth Rollins in Puerto Rico. Garrett, let's be clear. I never said that you didn't like it.
00:32:21
Speaker
I said the fact that you liked it may have had something to do with the fact that I got the text that you liked it at 2.30 in the morning my time. That's only 1.30 my time. That's like right before bed. It's the middle of the night. You're watching Seth Rollins and Omos and you're like, yeah, this is good. I'm like, okay. I assume there were some beers involved. I don't know. Or maybe some whiskey and pitch black.
00:32:51
Speaker
You're wrong, I was sober, I was up, just like, you know what, I should watch a couple matches for the show this week. I put on backlash. Crowd was very hot. Like, you know, they're not getting WWE down there. Send them down there more often. That crowd had fun. You know what, they're probably not bitching about the show. Probably had a good time. Well, Bad Bunny won, so. Okay, I did miss that match. I saw it was the longest on the card.
00:33:18
Speaker
I think I turned it on in the middle of that. I mean, it was a big schmaz, but well done. I mean, it was just a fun kind of thing where, you know, everyone, they got Savio Vega out there, Carlito.
00:33:29
Speaker
stopping the Judgment Day. Everyone bought LWO t-shirts apparently. Everyone had a good time. A good time was had by all. It's so bizarre that like at this point Bad Bunny is fucking famous. Like maybe to like listeners of this show like he isn't everybody's like cup of tea musically. But like that dude is famous. Like that is like a worldwide like enormously famous human being.
00:33:57
Speaker
It's like if Taylor Swift showed up and wiped out Becky Lynch with a chair. Yeah, I would totally watch. Of course. What am I saying? She wouldn't use a chair. She would Jeff Jarrett her with a guitar. Oh, oh, her little her her little guy would be Becca.
00:34:17
Speaker
Now I kind of just want to see this. I kind of want to see Taylor Swift elkabong. So it sucks that like, I mean, good for bad bunny, bad bunnies having a good time. Really good for WWE for getting an enormous celebrity to want to do the longest match on their card. Like I saw it was like over 20 minutes. It was like 22 or 23, something like that. Yeah.
00:34:44
Speaker
Bro, that's not working that long. No! No, but somebody who's as famous as Tom Cruise is going in and like, I want to do this. I'm going to do this for my country, because I grew up loving this. Cool. Good for him. Kudos. I didn't see the match. I hear good things. Good for him.
00:35:07
Speaker
Not as good as Seth Rollins and Omos, though, apparently. Absolutely not. That match wasn't super long, but there was a spot in it that, like, before I was like, this is gonna be whatever. This is what popped me. He goes to give a curb stomp to Omos early in the match. But Omos is big, Chris. I don't know if you know that. He's big. Very large. He's big. He's on his, like, hands and knees. He's so big and strong, Seth couldn't curb stomp him.
00:35:37
Speaker
almost like popped up, and Seth is like, oh, I can't, I curb stomp this guy, grabs him by the throat, power bombs him. That's not the end of the match, though. Almost has taken him out, you know, working him over through this match. He has to go top rope to curb stomp him at the end to get the win.
00:35:54
Speaker
Oh, that's fun. A top rope curb stomp is pretty cool. You know, I haven't seen that. That's a cool finish. I haven't seen him go against an opponent like that before. That's like big. And I mean, other than like Brock, but he didn't have to top rope curb stomp him. Oh, that was a fun finish to me. I got you. I mean, it sounds like I'm I'm joking, but, you know, I it sounds like a fun. I mean, again, when I watched the show, I watched The Six Man.
00:36:21
Speaker
That was good. The weird thing with the six men, um, didn't Matt Riddle used to wear like shorts, like, like briefs or something? He had like little MMA shorts, right? Yeah. Now he just wears like trunks, but with like no shoes and no knee pads, like he's trying to play Kevin Von Eric in a movie or something. It's very weird.
00:36:42
Speaker
Really, just like on Eric, we're like a knee pad or something. Like it's literally he's just he's just totally nude other than the trunks. It looks like a man in his underwear. It really looks like a man in his underwear. I know. No shoes. There's no shoes. There's no knee pad. There's no nothing. There's no like foot tape, anything.
00:37:03
Speaker
I mean, he never did any of that. Like what's funny is the thing that's separating you from being able to look at him as a presentable human is about three inches of fabric that have been removed from what he was wearing before.
00:37:16
Speaker
Like it was, like it really wasn't like, it was the difference between wearing briefs and boxer briefs. But that changes everything. And you're right, that does make him look unstable. Like it makes me feel like maybe Vince should take him out longer and make him think about what he's doing. You can't dress like that in Saudi. I'll tell you that right now. Maybe Vince liked it. Maybe that Spencer was like, oh, Matt.
00:37:46
Speaker
We're bringing you back, but you got to show more leg. The ladies want to see it. So, OK. Anyway, weird thing about me. I don't know if you know this. I was on swim team for 14 years of my life. No, actually, that really is about you.
00:38:04
Speaker
because I don't have the body of a swimmer anymore and also did not while I was doing it. But I was going to swim practice in another city at that point. And I go into the locker room. It's like a new place for me. I think I don't remember where we were practicing. But this guy comes in.
00:38:24
Speaker
pulls a pair of little tiny short shorts, cut off jean shorts out of his bag. He looks over his shoulder at me as I'm changing and goes, got to take off a couple more inches. And I'm like, excuse me? He pulls out a pair of scissors and cuts these already short booty shorts a couple inches shorter for some reason, puts them on and that's what he swam in. He was not on the team. He was just there for exercise. But like,
00:38:55
Speaker
Why is that sanitary? I don't know. Like, like that's a psychopath. Like this guy was like easily in his thirties and I was
00:39:10
Speaker
I wouldn't I would have been 15. And he looks so got to take off another couple inches. I'm like, what? And then like he pulls the scissors out. I'm naked. So it's scary. Like now there's this scary man, like cutting his shorts shorter. What the fuck? That's one of those things that I didn't think a ton about at the time.
Bizarre Personal Stories
00:39:30
Speaker
But this many years later, like I probably should have brought it up in therapy because now I every time I get shorts, I'm like, got to take a couple inches off.
00:39:40
Speaker
You got to look. People are thigh guys right now, you know, showing some thigh. If we make it, you know, we go to West Virginia, Garrett, we'll take we'll each take a couple inches off. We'll we'll be thigh guys together. Oh, I feel like I feel like. We'll just I just think it's an opportunity. We'll take a couple inches off. The women of West Virginia will love us.
00:40:09
Speaker
We'll help them fight. I watched a Matthew justice versus, Oh, what can I think of his name? Yeah. Who are you watching? Cause you described this to me and like, as you were texting us about it, you seemed like absolutely thrilled by a moment in this match.
00:40:28
Speaker
Oh, a Josh Bishop, Matthew Justice against Josh Bishop in a BW3 parking lot from last summer. And they're just, they're brawling around and Justice like sits in someone's chair. And the lady, I think it's the same lady who's always getting into people gets in Josh Bishop's face as if though she's like defending, she's put herself between her and Matt Justice and between Matt Justice and Josh Bishop. And it's just, it was just so delightful. The match itself was also very good. Cause it's like a plunder match.
00:40:57
Speaker
And it's not like in any other context, she'd go, I was good. That was a very enjoyable match. Something about them just being in this parking lot and just pulling doors out and shit. I don't know. There was just something really delightful. I hope we get to see a Matthew Justice match in a parking lot this summer. She's lucky that she was dealing with a Josh Bishop who is like,
00:41:21
Speaker
a good member of society and not like Bubba Ray Dudley in the 90s, who knows what would have happened to her if he had stepped, if she had stepped in front of, you know, whoever he was fighting at the time, the names she would have been called horrendous. And maybe something physical happened to her. Yeah, Bubba Ray Dudley, man, that's a
00:41:46
Speaker
How, how have we not canceled him retrospectively? Is there any, sometimes it's come, it's like, you're like, he said things to people that if anyone said like a sentence of what he went on for 20 minutes, people would be like, you're done buddy at a wrestling. Sorry.
00:42:04
Speaker
Well, the thing is, it's buried so deep in peacock and you can't search it that it's like, you know, if a tree falls in the woods, can you in no one's around, can you hear it? Like, that's the same with all that shit Bubba Ray Dudley said back then. Yeah.
00:42:20
Speaker
But yeah, delightful. Wait, did you watch a backlash? Did you watch Cody and Brock? I did. I did. I didn't see the build to the match. I basically just, I missed the video package that caught me up on the story and I kind of just started the match and it seemed like Cody cheated a lot at the beginning. Well, he jumped him, right? I mean, he... He's the baby face?
00:42:48
Speaker
He's the baby face in this, yes. Well, I mean, I think it's the whole story, right, is he beat the crap out of him when he was supposed to be his tag team partner. He's been beating the crap out of him a couple times since. I think that's most of the story. Okay, okay, okay, you're right, you're right. That does add to it. I do think that Cody is very good at taking the suplexes in a way that elevates the match. Like, the way, like, if you look back at, like,
00:43:18
Speaker
We were all surprised that Goldberg took as many suplexes as he did from Lesnar in their Mania match. And it was better than we all expected, because we didn't expect Goldberg to take moves. But Cody takes them in almost a sickening New Japan-esque way, where he'll take them high on his neck, he'll land awkward on his shoulder. He takes those where it looks like he is getting beat up.
00:43:46
Speaker
And I really do appreciate that about him. He's an insane person. That's why we love him. He does a lot of dumb shit and it's good for wrestling. I will say I thought it was the Brock match. It most reminded me of was the CM Punk one. It had kind of that vibe of like the.
00:44:08
Speaker
I don't know, like the brawling and kind of the desperation and the use of the weapons, kind of the symbol of a punk did to try to be like an equalizer, the overall pacing of it. I don't think it was as good as the punk match. The punk match was really, really good. But I thought that was the sort of the, maybe the inspiration there. I thought it was good. I mean, I didn't love it, love it, but it was good and it was enjoyable.
00:44:35
Speaker
And you don't see Brock lose in a roll up. A lot or that's how it ended, right? Like he was he had Cody in the arm. What do you call it? The Kamora lock. Yep. And Cody kind of rolled over, got his shoulders down. One, two, three. Interesting loss for Brock. And then I saw they've already announced the rematch is in Saudi. Yeah. Yeah. I'm assuming they're going three with this one. They're going to do summer slam Saudi Arabia match. Yeah. Summer slam or something like that.
00:45:05
Speaker
also announced for Saudi Arabia. Yeah. Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens. Which apparently I hadn't been watching the news to know he was allowed over there now and things were cool. I apparently Syria. Yeah. The Syria thing ended. Now, of course, now they're just chill. Now both of those guys are just like, yeah, whatever. Or, and, um, far beef me to, to impugn, um, their, uh,
00:45:33
Speaker
either of those guys, but they're big stars now, and Vince, they might have paid them a lot of fucking money. That would still, like, even if things supposedly are cool, a place that I was previously not allowed to be is a place I would be very nervous to travel to. I'm already a nervous traveler, but
00:45:57
Speaker
If I was going there knowing that the people might legitimately hate me, not hate my character, hate me for who I am and like my, where I was born and my, my lineage. Um, fuck. Like, do you think that's a thing that he wanted to sit out of? And Vince is like, Oh, good luck. I really, again, I cannot imagine that they were just like, this sounds awesome.
00:46:25
Speaker
But they're just like, we put you in the WrestleMania main event now. Now you got to come. Got to come to the Saudi Saudi Arabia. I wonder though, are they going to go over? I mean, it's actually, it's kind of a shame, right? Because they're wrestling reigns in, in Sequoah. You would think that's an opportunity to maybe like give someone a win over reigns, obviously over solo, if that's the case. But to do it in Saudi Arabia, it just seems sad.
00:46:56
Speaker
But whatever. I'm not gonna spend more than 30 seconds thinking that it's WWE, whatever, but. Whatever, and the last time they were there, I got an awesome Logan Paul match. So, I don't know. If I hear something's good, I'll check it out. I don't know why I watched the almost match. No one told me to do that. That was just me, like, let the show play. Dave Meltzer gave it three stars. Are you serious? Yeah, you gave it three stars. That's pretty good.
00:47:26
Speaker
Yeah. Is that the highest almost match? It might be. That's pretty good. Almost like you're getting there. I mean, you had an opponent that knew how to work. And honestly, I thought that was a well-booked match. So I'm not going to check out all of your matches, but. No, don't watch all of the almost matches. That's a bad idea. I like where Brian Knob's matches.
00:47:51
Speaker
Do people like the watch-alongs? Are those fun for everybody? Or are those, like, do people find those to be a pain in the ass because they want to listen to us on the drive to work or whatever? Or while they're at the gym and now, like, we're making them have to be in front of a TV.
00:48:06
Speaker
Feel free to message us. I will say though, I listened to the last episode without watching the matches. And it was pretty much just as good as listening, just listening to you guys talk and chat. I had fun. I mean, it was fun having facts here. I hadn't, you know, obviously hadn't seen you guys since since Forbidden Door. But yeah, it was it was fun. Like I thought I had too much fun talking about Dave Meltzer going to the beach.
00:48:36
Speaker
I bet he loves the beach. He's from California. He doesn't strike me as a dude who's going to the beach very often. I think he does sometimes. I think he gets out to the beach and likes to flex and lift weights with the bros a little bit. I think he doesn't go to the beach and every once in a while he thinks, I saw wrestling on the beach once and that was really nice. I wish that happened again. I don't know. I can see Dave,
00:49:07
Speaker
being like, just being a week, you know, he's just like, yeah, this is how I, uh, that's how I unwind. Oh, you know what other match I watched this, I started it last night. So the, I'm still confused with IWTV and circle six.
Wrestling Experiences and Match Quality
00:49:23
Speaker
I don't know when's where circle six is. I feel like it's never on there. I get on IWTV things are finally working and there's a bunch of circle six shows.
00:49:34
Speaker
So like, oh, I bet there's a fun death match show. And I saw that three layers of hell or whatever match. It was Kogar and one of the canceled rascal. Yeah. Which I've always enjoyed him. I thought the death match he did that you guys saw right before he went to WWE was really, really excellent, which is first ever. I think against Cologne, actually. Yeah, I think that's right.
00:50:03
Speaker
Not a death match, this three layers of cheese match or whatever the fuck. It was just a regular match. Like there had clearly been death matches prior to this, but what's his name? The old commentator for GCW, Gil. Kevin Gil comes out and he's like, the first match is a lumberjack match. And then it's a strap match. And then it's a third thing that isn't glass.
00:50:34
Speaker
So it's just like kind of a, like I watched it through the strap match. It was like, I, I, I'm done. That being said, it was still a fine match. I like both of those guys as wrestlers. Wasn't there some death match stuff at the very end of that? I feel like I saw the finish of that, like on Twitter, Instagram or something.
00:50:51
Speaker
Oh, well, maybe I should have continued going on that. I think you might want to finish that at some point. OK, I do miss Kogar. I don't know. I'm surprised he isn't an XPW yet, but maybe he's just like a good guy and doesn't want a nice boy and he's not allowed there. OK, like he might look a little evil because of his piercings, but he's a nice guy.
00:51:17
Speaker
Yeah, he's not. And when Rob Black asked him to just to fuck someone, he's not going to do that. Schlackel Schlackel take off anyone's pants. You asked him to. He's just like, OK, it sounds fine. Oh, did you watch anything else this week?
00:51:36
Speaker
Oh, best of the super juniors. I did a bit of. Yeah, I watched some of the first night of best of super juniors main evented with her Romu and Mike Bailey, which was really good. I checked that out. Yeah, I mean, it was a ballsy move, you know, not the part where they put Mike Bailey over, but the part where they let him talk afterwards.
00:51:58
Speaker
Okay, I didn't, I think I saw clips of that on Twitter, but I didn't watch it on the show. Does he have like a super Canadian accent or like what's wrong with his voice? I don't, it's hard to describe, but he's maybe the least menacing person in the world.
00:52:17
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Is it a combination between the karate kid gimmick, the mullet and the way he sounds in this? Yeah, it's just it's kind of like I feel like we always knew that he probably shouldn't talk.
00:52:30
Speaker
But, but then he, he talked and it really reinforced that. And now I just think they should have someone else do the talking. I don't know. Get a little guy. He needs a little guy. He needs his own little guy. Yeah. A little karate man or woman or person. I don't, whatever. Get his girlfriend or his wife out there. She's awesome on the mic.
00:52:54
Speaker
Yeah. I like VEDA. It makes sense. Has Speedball been in New Japan before?
00:53:02
Speaker
I don't think so. At least not recently. It makes sense. Like he works well. Like those, it was a good match. I very much enjoyed the match. And I also liked that commentary, which I didn't see the build to the match or anything, but I guess Hiromu said that his goal was to win 10 in a row and best of the super juniors immediately loses the first one to Mike Bailey. So I was not expecting Mike Bailey to go over. I was genuinely a little surprised with that.
00:53:31
Speaker
Yeah, I gotta catch up. I haven't watched anything else since then from that, but that was good. I'm not a huge Super Junior's guy, but I'm curious to see some of the Bailey matches. At some point, they're doing Bailey against Doki, which is a dream match for me.
00:53:50
Speaker
Who else is in best of the super juniors that you're excited to see? I don't mind them. I think New Japan does tournaments well. I feel like I dip out for a while and then when they do a tournament, that's always a good time to kind of step back in. You always get good stuff in a New Japan tournament.
00:54:10
Speaker
Yeah, I think the problem with the super juniors, they haven't been able to get enough new people in over the last couple of years. This year's a little bit better, but it's still a lot of guys who've like worked each other a million times. I mean, they do have, they got Leo in there. I'm curious to watch some of the Leo matches.
00:54:29
Speaker
But yeah, and the depth wise, it's not the same as when they were bringing over like a lot of the younger American guys. This would have been a good time for AEW to throw a couple guys that they're not using every weekend.
00:54:42
Speaker
Yeah, they sent you to last year, but I'm surprised they didn't send a couple more people this year who just like hanging out. What about like a band ready doing? Yes, and Bandito send whoever like there's lots of options there. It's an action and ready. You could lose all 10 matches and no one would care and they could just learn a whole bunch. Commander would have been another like on I guess like earlier. Yeah. The problem is those guys might do AAA sometimes. I don't know. The weird CMLL AAA thing.
00:55:11
Speaker
So has it been announced that there's a main event for triple mania of Vikingo Kenny? Yes. Yes. Okay. So that is like being promoted in triple A because I saw on fight that was listed and that match alone, $23. Yeah. Let for sure. That seems like a no brainer. Like, especially if they're getting time in a main event of a big pay-per-view.
00:55:35
Speaker
I think that's going to be a big fun match. Yeah. That's uh, it was being a Kenny though. Uh, Kenny, uh, this week wrestled Moxley in a cage match and it was delightful. Damn. Like they really gave us a pay-per-view match on TV. Yeah. The best death match of the week was on free television on TBS before an episode of young Sheldon or something.
00:55:59
Speaker
or after an episode. No, that was that was really great after Big Bang Theory before Young Shell. OK, got it. Yeah, that was that was really great. When they said that those two had only met in singles matches, that was their fourth time.
00:56:16
Speaker
And seeing like the buildup to the match Kenny Omega, at least not on television, but on line saying how much he respects Jon Moxley and how Jon Moxley really became like the ace of the company and kind of like the face, just the guy who's willing to do anything. Those really are the top two guys and maybe all of pro wrestling for me right now. And yeah, I mean, I always find that the two of them, they're like,
00:56:46
Speaker
There's just such a natural, like they're similar in a certain way, right? They're so committed to wrestling, sui generis, they're like focused on like making what they want to make, but they approach it so differently that the clash is always interesting to see.
00:57:04
Speaker
It's yeah, you're getting to see Moxley do another day at the office, but against a really high level guy and getting to see Kenny do things you've never seen Kenny do before. Take take bumps into barbed wire. And I really want to go back and rewatch the barbed wire exploding barbed wire match. I was I haven't seen it since I was there. That was during the pandemic. I did drive to Jacksonville to attend that because
00:57:33
Speaker
Honestly, I didn't think I'd ever get a chance to see one live. And that seemed like just as good a chance of any to see one. And I remember throughout that whole match having a very good time. But all you remember is the finish and like the goofiness at the end of the little like fart of smoke. Yeah. Oh, yeah. If that match if that match happens and the explosion is even decent.
00:58:01
Speaker
It's a very beloved and well-remembered match. The thing at the end is really unfortunate in the sense that it killed what was otherwise a really great match. It didn't help too that being there in person, which was bizarre because I'm in a section of singles, so there was a whole section that was only single people.
00:58:25
Speaker
like where you there were not two seats sold. So I had this was not AWW dating or something. I fucked everybody in my section at the end. There was a guy six seats to my left, six seats to my right. No one in front of me for four rows. No one behind me for four rows. So you could react to no one basically is this shit's happening. And you're like air high fiving people. But it.
00:58:52
Speaker
I remember enjoying it and then I remember checking it out maybe that night and listening to the commentators build up this explosion. And if everybody were able to watch that match without commentary, they would have still enjoyed it. Because in person, it seemed like that was part of the bit. It seemed like it was a joke that Don Callis played on
00:59:19
Speaker
you know, like to make them look like assholes. And then it was like a little fart. But the fact that the whole match they're building up like they're going to fucking die. And then that happens. Like that sucks. Like that did make them look like assholes. But I don't know. I remember it fondly. And I hope others kind of do as well. Yeah. I mean, I'm curious where they'll go for. I mean, again, I think they're
00:59:46
Speaker
Setting up a longer feud here, which is great because last year they did like six months of the BCC and the Jericho appreciation society, which was not fun, but I can, I could do as long as they need to a BCC versus the elite do all the Kenny matches. Do page against Danielson again. I just go as far as you need. Go as long as you need guys. Don't worry about it. Just I'm here for it.
01:00:11
Speaker
Well, now that they've done exploding barbed wire, they've done just a what? Like a dark death match back at like the first full gear. Right. The lights out. Yeah. The lights out match. They did the cage match. Like what big matches they're left for Kenny and Moxley to do. I guess just a regular singles match.
01:00:32
Speaker
Uh, I mean, there's all sorts of weird shit out there, right? Dog collar matches, dog collar. Um, but you don't want to do like, I don't know. How often do you want to like repeat that? No, I get that. I was just, I was just, we were just thinking out loud there, but there's, I don't know. There's got, there's some weird Japanese death matches out there. Like.
01:00:57
Speaker
Ring of Hell's, I don't know, like like the electrified, like in the pool, all that shit, like the the FMW matches. Yeah, just all sorts of insane. There's all sorts of insane. Anita shit they can steal or Moxley. Maybe he has an idea for something else. He's like, OK, guys. All right. All right. I told this to Anita and Anita was like, that's fucked up, John. And so, OK, here's my pitch to you guys. We got like we got a board at each corner, right?
01:01:27
Speaker
and it's shooting stuff at us. He's like shooting pellets at us. You guys ever seen Raiders of the Lost Ark? You remember when he's trying to get that little head off the thing and the ball comes? But before that, these darts come out of the wall. We have triggers on the floor.
01:01:49
Speaker
You don't know. You're just like running. You're just like running the ropes. You step on a trigger. Bam. Darn summer sums poison. Some is just liquefied speed. So some is actually it helps you to get hit by the dart.
AEW Future and Booking Confusion
01:02:04
Speaker
This is going to be fucking wild guys. How's Excalibur going to know which is which? We'll get we'll figure it out. You'll be able to tell.
01:02:19
Speaker
I trust him, trust him. He's the best, he's the best, he'll get it. Rene is just in the corner sobbing. She's just like, why is he doing this? God, she posted a picture of him hanging out with this kid in the backyard. That barbed wire really did a number on him. Oh, uh-huh, yeah. That was, and we didn't even mention that Callis turned. Which again, I'm excited where that's going, because that's, I mean,
01:02:50
Speaker
It could be Takeshita, but is there someone else he could be bringing in? I don't know. A certain golden star. We just really want Ibushi, guys. We just really want to see Ibushi. And I don't think he has a problem coming over. I think he'd enjoy it, even. It's just, yeah, I don't know. That's... Although I guess I kind of worry... Maybe I should... If Ibushi comes back, I'll start trying to watch BTE again.
01:03:19
Speaker
I just feel like there's a lot of story there to tell. So overall though, you enjoyed this last week's episode. It seemed like AEW is kind of on an upswing. Like the, cause I feel like for a little bit, it's been like, not necessarily mid, but not like must see tune in in the moment TV. Yeah. I think this was the best one in a while. I think this is, um, seemed to be pointing towards a lot of fun stuff. I think the idea of collision,
01:03:49
Speaker
Again, do I want two hours more? Not really, it's a lot. On the other hand, they've got a lot of dudes and ladies. And so the opportunity to really branch out and let everyone have more time is, I think, a positive. And we can figure out how we're all gonna negotiate that in terms of watching the show. But I think it's a positive thing. I mean, you gotta find a way to use Miro, you gotta find a way to use
01:04:20
Speaker
All these people, I mean, frick, they had like, uh, Alison Kay just on rampage wrestling, Tony storm. And I was like, sign her. But also again, I guess, presumably put her on another show. Cause otherwise how many, there's only so many slots to use her, you know?
01:04:35
Speaker
It seems like with this, the main thing they need to do is, um, how do I say, uh, give a fuck? Uh, just make it seem like you care. Like nothing on rampage. It seems like it just exists. Like, Oh, but I didn't, I didn't tune into the Hardy thing, which I heard was very good.
01:04:56
Speaker
But yeah, it's just nothing ever happens on Rampage, but maybe don't have TK write it. Doesn't seem like he has time. Get people who care to build stories for these people so there is literally a second show of storytelling or good matches, a reason to tune in.
01:05:15
Speaker
Yeah, it does seem like the report is that rampage is basically going to become heat or whatever. It's going to be kind of like, which is fine. Honestly, though, that's fine to me. Again, if you've got collision kind of being the.
01:05:29
Speaker
like a real second show and then Rampage is kind of just like, hey, here's some vignettes and kind of ephemera and it's maybe kind of good. And again, maybe you just you just kind of skip ahead. If you don't like the match, just go to the next thing. I don't mind. I mean, it's an hour. It's an offensive, you know, like for people who want it, it's there. Like it's a weird thing to complain about that it exists because it's just it's a little extra.
01:05:54
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, could we maybe on this new show, they'll have a chance to explain what the hell has been going on with Sperv Strickland for the last six months? Like he was on Rampage this week. He and Brian Cage wrestled a dark order. I don't understand if there was a reason for that. The match was fine. But again, why he was he and Keith Lee were very hot.
01:06:21
Speaker
in like November and December of last year is currently may. They have not wrestled each other. Like in a singles, like why I'm, I'm totally lost. He's Keith Lee's in a tag team with Dustin Rhodes for some reason. I am blown away by that. It's just, it that's, I generally think the complaints about a W 10 to be overblown. Um, but seriously, what the hell without,
01:06:50
Speaker
Yeah, it's still a good show. Like if you like pro wrestling, it's, you know, it's the best on regular television. Yeah. So, um, yeah. No, when it's again, it's. Enjoy it. Still a good, really good show. Very curious. I hope maybe, hope they announce eventually that they're coming back to Chicago for all out and we'll see if we'll make it over there for that. Um, if not, there'll be grand slam a couple of weeks later. I'll be, that'll be fun.
01:07:20
Speaker
I hope we can do Chicago, but it is weird if they do pay per views two weeks in a row. Yeah, it's hard to. We'll see that being said, like, I'll go to whatever. Like, I know it's going to be fun and they're sure as hell not bringing me anything here in Nashville. So I would love to travel to the place we all met and reconnect.
01:07:43
Speaker
I was thinking, I was watching some All Japan today, and I was thinking about how in a lot of ways, All Japan is kind of the AEW of the Japanese in the 90s, or maybe AEW is sort of the comparable in the sense that
01:08:02
Speaker
All Japan is, first of all, it's very well remembered, right? But people kind of forget that even though it's doing very, very well in the nineties, it's definitely number two to new Japan. Like new Japan is doing Tokyo dome shows. They're selling 60,000 tickets. Like all Japan's never doing that. It's succeeding in selling a lot of tickets. It's, it's a successful wrestling promotion for that entire length of the nineties. It's just not like it's number two clearly, but it's a strong number two. Um, the booking is.
01:08:31
Speaker
good, but sometimes too patient. Sometimes you're like, why aren't these? Well, we, we, we wanted to hold off on this. And so we just kind of spun our wheels for six months. Definitely a thing that happens in AWS sometimes too. Um, but also sometimes you're just like, they're still turning out some classics, right? When, when they all, when they, they bring the right people together, they're still churning, turning classics out, you know?
01:08:58
Speaker
Um, I think this makes Tony Khan giant Baba, which is an interesting comparison just from a size difference. Yeah. Yeah. Did you watch, uh, the, the King's road match from this week?
01:09:12
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I watched at least the one, there was a few in the episode we watched, but I watched the one that I could find on YouTube, um, which was, uh, Masala, Kawata, and Kobashi against, uh, Saruda, Tao, and, uh, Fuchi in a six man, which was really, really good.
01:09:30
Speaker
I had it on but was a little distracted with baby stuff. I enjoyed what I saw. Like, those all deliver in such a specific way that no other wrestling provides. Yeah, there's like a real, and again, we're watching some of the best stuff, right? We're not watching like random matches. I'm sure there's some that are just good or just fine.
01:09:56
Speaker
But yeah, there's a joy in like how into it the crowds are. And it's been really interesting. I mean, Garrett and I, we haven't been talking about much just because sometimes these matches, they've just been kind of really good. I don't know. There's not a ton to say other than like, it was really good. If you haven't seen it, you should watch it. Yeah, like I don't, it's hard for me to say anything other than like, yeah, I watched this 45-minute match that's considered a classic.
01:10:23
Speaker
And it's a classic for a reason. They dropped each other on their heads. They hit each other in the face. Kawata kicked a guy a bunch of times with those little kicks. You know, it's.
01:10:35
Speaker
I did just like the one spot where, I think Tao was like a Sumo and he just like, he responds back to Kawata kicking him by just like waving his hands forward at him a bunch of times and just like backing him into the corner with like, just like a series of slaps, like Sumo style, just kind of, he's like body. And we do have video of that. You can feel for, I don't know if you can cut that out, Gary, of me, just of me, just visibly trying to do that to you. That's your official predetermined GIF.
01:11:06
Speaker
But I I quite enjoyed that. I'm excited that the next the next week, episode five of The Walking the Kings Road, the title is just the greatest six man tag match of all time, question mark. So curious to see what that's about. Maybe it is the greatest six men of all time. I don't know. We'll find out. That's interesting, because I feel like I've seen some pretty good ones in my day. It's true. Now, he made this video before there were like seven
01:11:34
Speaker
Uh, elite versus death triangle matches. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see if it lives up to that. I mean, I love that. I also got to say house of black. Love the, uh, love the weird lighting for the house of black weird rules matches. Do we have another weird rules match coming out or did they know? I don't know if they're, I've done yet, but the weird lighting they did for the, for the, the dark where everything's like pitch black and Tony Siobhan. He's like, looks like the seventies in here. Yeah.
01:12:01
Speaker
They need to do more drink themed matches. I know Logan Paul's over on WWE, but get a prime match going. Maybe for the 4th of July, get the ice pop challenge or something. Which I know- There's gotta be a house of black beverage, right?
01:12:23
Speaker
Or are they all straight edge Brody straight edge. They definitely seem straight edge like a goblet of of Shirley Temple. It's a black. It's a black energy drink. Just it's like prime, but it's just like, you know. It's thicker. It's.
01:12:49
Speaker
Speaking of prime, I know we're coming close to the end. I told you this in our chat. You know, since I had that ice pop prime, I have had an insane craving for another cannot find them have literally not seen a single bottle of any flavor anywhere in this city that I've been. And the other day I went to the grocery store.
01:13:13
Speaker
There were two single bottles of the lemon lime flavor. And I was like, I'll buy both. I want to drink these. Go around the store, go to checkout at the self checkout, scan them. They show up as $14 a piece.
01:13:28
Speaker
I called the child over and it was a very young boy. He had to have been like 16 and I was like, Hey, what's going on with, with this? And he goes, Oh, this, they're, they're part of an eight pack. You have to, you can't buy them separate. You gotta buy the whole pack.
01:13:44
Speaker
Do you want to go back and get the others? Like he thought I pulled them out of like the the rings of like an APAC. I was like, oh, no, there were no others. Like these are sitting alone on a completely empty prime display. And he goes, sorry, boss. He took them away from me and threw them in the garbage.
01:14:04
Speaker
Did you fish them out of the garbage garret and just run, run, just drinking them. I'm thinking that he threw them in his special garbage where he gets to keep them for himself later. But you know what? In retrospect, I should have shut the fuck up, paid $28 for two drinks and be enjoying those on the show right now. But the fact that those ended up in a trash can because they were Lucy's liquid. He should have been, he should have been like,
01:14:32
Speaker
It's your lucky day, bud. But he's 16 and wants those primes. He needs the prime or the answer, Garrett, is you should have. Next time that happens, you just know you just grab that and start drinking it. They won't sell it to you.
01:14:46
Speaker
What are you going to do? Send me to jail over a $2 tech thing that was supposed to be $2 was 14. That sucks. Like they have me hook, line and sinker with this fucking drink by, they gave me a taste and then I can never find it. And now I'm like, I've spent so much time thinking about it, talking about it to other people that like, once it comes out everywhere, like everybody's going to be drinking this shit. Yeah.
01:15:14
Speaker
The Furby of the of the the sports drink world. It's like crack. It's like crack. I've never done crack cocaine, but based on the flavor, I've heard that it would be similar. Crack tastes like an ice pop, right? Should talk to Marty Janney about that together.
01:15:37
Speaker
We'll find out on Dark Side of the Ring this year. That actually would be an interesting interview. Just bring on old wrestlers and be like, Hey man, big fan of your work. Okay. Question one. What does crack taste like?
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01:15:50
Speaker
Well, he's like, well, you know, you don't eat it, right? I'm like, yeah, but it's like near your mouth. I think.
01:15:55
Speaker
How do you do crack? I don't know how to do crack. How do I do crack? You send them a bottle of Prime. You're like, is this similar to crack? I bought this crack and I ate all of it and nothing happened. He's like, well, I was like, is this the spoon one? Is this the hot spoon one?
01:16:22
Speaker
Drink this prime, tell me how it feels. He's just like, oh yeah, that's the crack feeling. I bought this bag, is this crack? He's like, that is a bag of snap pops from a fireworks stand. I don't recommend eating those, but you do recommend eating crack. So you do eat them.
01:16:46
Speaker
I paid you $12 for this interview and I'm gonna get my answers. I'm just thinking of interviewing Tully, because Tully's given it up, but he's very admitted that he's done it, so there's no hiding, right? He's like, can you tell me about cocaine, Mr. Blanchard?
01:17:13
Speaker
I'd rather not talk about that. I'd rather not talk about that. Okay, so your daughter. Okay, ask me about the cocaine. Anybody who doesn't listen to the full hour and 20 of predetermined always, I feel like the last 20 is really where it comes together sometimes.
01:17:40
Speaker
It's like therapy, you know, they say, you know, you don't, you have those, it's those last five minutes. Cause when you're up against the clock, the things start coming out. What came out this time was the crack jokes. Was the crack jokes. Fuck.
01:18:06
Speaker
But the good thing is we always bring them back at the top of the next one, just in case you missed them. Well, that was a great review, which is good. These people should probably rate, review and subscribe to the show because guys, positive reviews to us are like crack. Which again, we have not tried. So we're not really sure if that's actually correct or not, but.
01:18:33
Speaker
But I think since you ingested, it nourishes our minds and bodies. And you don't want us to go hungry? And I think it will give us that little rush. All right, everybody. Thanks for listening this week. This is always a treat. My favorite part of the week is hanging out with you, Chris. Mine too, Garrett.
01:18:56
Speaker
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