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Introduction and Episode Overview
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome back in season two, episode three of stone by cornbread. I'm one of your hosts, Blake. I'm joined by big J J smooth, James Hicks Jr. On a pretty incredible episode.
Fantasy Football Week One Highlights
00:00:20
Speaker
I have to say we have a lot lined up this week and I'm not going to spend all day right now talking about it, but we have.
00:00:29
Speaker
Week one to dive into it was an epic week one in fantasy football side bets were made trades pushed through as early as today. Uh, the number one pick traded before week two, completely unprecedented 10 player trade all time league chatter. I even saw Jake and Larry in the group chat today. We are.
Special Guests Announcement
00:00:56
Speaker
Very much in the season and locked in. This is stoned by cornbread. We have not one, but two league members as special guests. This episode buckle in. It's going to be a big one stone by cornbread. Let's get into it.
00:01:37
Speaker
Uh, we're going to jump right. We're going to jump right to big J big J reporting live on the podcast here. As previously stated, we have two very special guests lined up. One of them we tried to secure previously. The commissioner will be joining us shortly and just to spice things up coming off the rival talk, none other.
00:02:05
Speaker
than the bandwagoner Rosetta Stone, Andrew Morton.
Rivalry Drama and Ethical Concerns
00:02:12
Speaker
It should be wonderful. Can't wait to see how they react. Neither of them know that the other rival will be on at the same time.
00:02:21
Speaker
should add a fun little twist. We'll see. We'll see how this goes. I mean, this is a bold move for us on episode three of our season here, James. We are pitting two bitter rivals against each other, unbeknownst to them. What's big J, I guess from a journalistic integrity perspective, like how do you feel about setting these two up? Is this some sort of entrapment?
00:02:50
Speaker
Is this, is this worthy? Yeah, it kind of feels like to catch a predator when you like walk in the room and they see the guy and they want to run at first, it's going to create a real natural raw reaction from the two of them. I can't wait to see that. And, uh, I will say as far as preparation goes, this is our least prepared podcast and we're also taking a big swing here. So it could go great.
00:03:18
Speaker
It could go horrible, but I love the context of what we're bringing together here.
Commissioner's State of the Union
00:03:24
Speaker
Right, right. The only thing that is a negative, and obviously the league's going to know this, is that now anytime we ask someone to join us on the podcast, they're going to assume that they're going to be pitted against their bitter rival or someone that they don't want to be on the podcast with, which is not the case, per se. We just felt like after all the tension between Andrew and the commissioner,
00:03:46
Speaker
Bobby, we needed to get them together. We need to get them in the same room. This, this should, this should cause fireworks. This should be electric. Uh, James, I know you've been dialed in with both of them. Um, what's our status here?
00:04:06
Speaker
Just now reporting that Bami is ready to hop on. We're going to let him get the mic for a little bit, get the commissioners words, which are important. Words are very important. And then we'll bring Andrew in a little bit later. He is.
00:04:21
Speaker
They'll be in the green room in a little while. Okay, yeah. In the age of AI text from the commission, gonna be great to hear from him. It looks like he's jumping in now. So Mr. Commissioner, State of the Union, welcome to Stone by Cornbread. We are thrilled to have you here. We get to go. What was the technical difficulties? There weren't any technical difficulties. We were just... Riffing.
00:04:50
Speaker
Yeah. We're just riffing. We wanted to, we wanted to really build up to your arrival on the show. Cool. All right. Welcome for having me. Welcome. Welcome to stone by cornbread. I enjoyed like the five hour period where at some point you guys may, may text me and say, I need to jump on for this. Yeah. We're just happy to have you here, man.
00:05:20
Speaker
All right, what's up? What do we want? Well, that's a question for you, Bobby. We know what the league wants. The league wants to hear from the commissioner. This is the State of the Union address. We want to hear from you. OK. Well, why don't I just roll off some of our successes we had so far?
00:05:50
Speaker
League engagement is probably the best it's ever been. Um, if you look in the last 24 hours, uh, we have had every single member of the league except for the norm post to our signal. Oh, yeah. So lots of engagement. Uh, the lead content is, uh, you know, under my league leadership, but we got the first podcast. So you're welcome.
00:06:19
Speaker
Uh, and you know, uh, also like the law and order that we've kept, um, you know, within the league, no controversies. It's been smooth sailing and, uh, I'm excited for, uh, the season. That's great, Bobby. What, uh, what grade would you give yourself, uh, so far during your, uh, your tenure as commission? Hmm.
00:06:49
Speaker
I don't know if I'd like to think about it as grades is more of like how, uh, what would they know me as in the future? I think Bobby, the great would likely be an answer. Um, but, uh, you know, I'd have to think about that. I'd probably go through the tidal wave, uh, talking about it rather than a grading scale. Interesting. I like that.
00:07:17
Speaker
Tommy, how would you address the accusations that a lot of your remarks are AI-generated? There has been AI-generated remarks in the past, so I'm not going to deny that. I think everybody can spot it nowadays, so I don't really do it anymore.
00:07:40
Speaker
You know, I am at least going to generate something that I actually think like I'm not going to just let random bullshit come out. So, um, I'm never going to guarantee I won't do it again, but, uh, I would say it's been minimal in the last, uh, last six months. Okay. Okay. One last question for you.
Rivalry Spotlight: Andrew Morton vs. Commissioner
00:08:01
Speaker
And then, and then I know we got a packed schedule. I mean, we'd love to have you on for a little while. Just talking about the health of the league. I think you you've addressed a lot of things that the league was concerned about.
00:08:11
Speaker
But I am curious about your week one performance, uh, going back to the game. Yeah. Pretty, pretty dreadful week for you. I mean, how are you feeling about the season commissioner side? It's looking pretty bleak. Yeah. I mean.
00:08:26
Speaker
I know you'd hit a hard-hitting question like that, but I don't feel too bad about my team. I feel good about my team. I mean, if you look at the yards, the carries, the attempts and targets, you know, the numbers are there. They just didn't get in the end zone. Once they start rolling into the end zone, you won't keep these guys out of the end zone, so I'm not too worried about it. I would say there's some other people to be worried about, and there's a lot of teams in this last week that did pretty well.
00:08:52
Speaker
But a lot of the scores were hyped up by kickers and defenses. And obviously, I know that a defense can be a long-term season play. But I would bet that most of them are not going to be. So I would like to see some of these scores where, yeah, a lot of kicker and defensive scores. Oh, wait. Hold on. Who is this?
00:09:18
Speaker
Oh, we got another person joining the pod. Yeah, I'm getting reports. We've got another guest joining. It looks a little dark out there.
00:09:27
Speaker
How you doing, bandwagoner? Hey, guys. I just hit a meeting wall. I got to go. I do want to get my projections. I'm going to have myself over Will, Larry over Rob, James over Brian. Look, Mommy, you can't escape this. You can't escape this. We brought Andrew. We brought the rivals on to talk. You can't just escape this. I think I took some marsh cats over with the chef. So hey, it was fun talking to you guys.
00:09:54
Speaker
I really appreciate you putting me on the call, and we will talk soon. Oh, he's actually going to bail. The bandwagoner's here. Andrew, anything to say before the commission leaves? That was some of the softest, softest shit I've ever seen in the league. Bombing has gone offline. I just got a notification. Wow.
00:10:19
Speaker
I did not know he was coming on. I can't believe he actually made it this week. Yeah, obviously I'm out here in the doghouse right now, but I'm just enjoying the weather, boys. I'm glad to be here. What did I miss? What was the commission saying?
00:10:41
Speaker
Well, we only got about five minutes in. We got, we got five minutes in with the commissioner and the goal was to let him talk to the league. She did a little bit of that. He talked about himself as a DC bombing. The great was already wants to be known as.
00:10:56
Speaker
I believe so, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then we're gonna bring you on as his rival and just have a civil discussion about one, your absolutely historic trade today. I definitely wanted to touch on that. Oh yeah. And two, just your ongoing rivalry with Bami, but he rage quit. He actually couldn't be in the same virtual room as you.
00:11:22
Speaker
Well, what do you, what do you feel right now? I mean, are you surprised? That was kind of like at the draft. I mean, he like wanted to say his distance from me and I think he thought I was going to shank him for something. But, uh, no, I, uh, I really don't have anything to say about the commission. I mean, last week's performance was pretty much all that needs to be said. Um, but.
00:11:49
Speaker
Yeah, no, I'm, I'm on, I'm moving on. We obviously made a historic trade today and, uh, I couldn't be happy to get Breece Hall for a bag of peanuts. Um, yeah, man, I'm happy. I didn't want to deal with C-Max Achilles. I mean, that just, they might as well put them on the IR. I feel like, but yeah.
00:12:16
Speaker
Yeah, Achilles tendonitis. That doesn't sound, it doesn't sound good. No, not at all. So yeah, I, uh, I got the guy who I wanted from the start and, um, we'll see. I'm not, I wasn't happy about letting go of CJ. Cause obviously I kind of reached for him, but to Rob's credit, Jason or sorry, not Jason, Jordan Mason might be the steel of the draft because that might be the guy who, uh,
00:12:46
Speaker
is running for him this year, so we'll see. Andrew, let's back things up here just for a second. This interaction still has me a little bit shook. Okay. You and Bobby, this is on a personal level, right? This is going beyond fantasy football at this point. I just want to confirm that the rivalry has reached beyond normal fantasy football shit-talking. We're going to leave the politics out of this.
00:13:16
Speaker
I think it just started with just probably a couple beers in me and was watching the news and, you know, we feel strongly about one side and obviously bombing feels strong about the other. And we probably just need to leave the politics out of this and let it just, let's just focus on the gridiron. No, I don't have, I mean, I really don't have any ill will towards bombing. He was a great roommate, clean roommate, James.
00:13:46
Speaker
Yeah, you were clean. Those were the those were the glory years. I had a great year with Bobby and James over at the St. Chris. Now we I got no ill will. I'm not going to be that guy tonight.
00:14:08
Speaker
Andrew, I've got two questions for you here. First, what's the beverage tonight? Along with what flavors in and what milligram are we working on? And I've got to follow up after that. Yeah, all I got I had some garage beers this weekend and I ran out. So I went with the modellos that were left in there. I thought I was getting on a little earlier, so I'm on my third and we're just rocking the Zen citrus.
00:14:37
Speaker
Number six is over here with a little... Wonderful. Yeah, a little mouthwash, yeah. Yeah, so what I really wanted to ask though, as a Big J journalist, I hated not to break some of those trade talks to the news that talks were developing. I'm curious if you can give us a little background. Were there other trade partners you were looking at? How long did it take to get this deal done?
00:15:05
Speaker
man obviously I was at work today and Rob gives me a call telling me it looks like our boy C Mac is out again this week and of course I had no idea Rob's always on it and so all right let's stop you right there let's stop you right there Andrew Rob called you or are you guys texting like we really want to we really want to break this down and like can you give us a an approximate timestamp here yes so he called me uh
00:15:35
Speaker
It was probably like around 1.30, 2 o'clock. And he just told me, you might need to do something. C-Max not playing. And that got me thinking, obviously I drafted Jerome Ford thinking I need to get to a hot start. And I kind of had my back against the wall. And so he brought up Reese Hall in the convo right from the start. And obviously that got my attention.
00:16:05
Speaker
So that's kind of how we got the dice rolling. I sent him, I mean, he sent me the first offer. Then I sent him back a counter and really we kind of went back and forth and then I probably sent him three or four. I mean, honestly, I was just trying to do C Mac and CJ for Baker and Breeze, but it's all good. I think in the end,
00:16:35
Speaker
I'm obviously not going to be playing the Patriots defense, but I think it will hopefully play out for me. We'll see though. Yeah. It sounds like things came together really quickly there.
00:16:53
Speaker
I'm curious, Andrew, you and I have a lot of history in this league. Some would say maybe we're former rivals. We've we've locked horns a number of times. And in week one, I happened to take you down. I maybe got a little lucky with the CMAQ injury news. And I'm curious, would you have made this trade if you would have won week one? Did that influence how you operated your team? I mean,
00:17:22
Speaker
I would say maybe 20%. I think, and now I just, before I came on here, I looked up the C-Mac news and of course now he's saying, I'm going to play. And so I just think even if he plays this week, he's going to get banged up. He's going to pull the hammy again and the calf. And I just, I just didn't want to deal with it.
00:17:49
Speaker
I made a dumb draft pick at the start and I kind of regretted it from that night. And, uh, so honestly, I'm, I am kind of happy with how everything is played out. Even if I lost to you week one, which was not what I wanted to do, but it was, uh, I think you still were gonna, you still were gonna get me even if C-Mac played, but, uh, Oh man, that was a, that was a good week one. I had fun.
Trade Reflections and Draft Regrets
00:18:18
Speaker
Blake, you had a good performance. Yeah, I guess we'll never know. That's right. Yeah. After you traded me the fifth pick, I think that was your first trade. You've now had two trades and we're not even through two weeks. We had the first ever draft pick trade. I forgot about that. That's right. Yep.
00:18:40
Speaker
And I mean, honestly, part of the reason I was willing to trade that pick was I was concerned about the situation you put yourself in. I feel like you actually have worked your way out of it. I just want to take a second to talk about how historic this trade is. We had a total of 10 players. Correct. Just wanted to make it two, honestly, even four. But Rob, he wanted to keep digging. And so he got his defense.
00:19:09
Speaker
right right so i mean you can only start how many players in fantasy you can only start nine right am i right there one two three four five six seven eight yeah nine including defense and kicker you guys traded more than an entire starting lineup total yeah ten total players moved uh i'm curious about about one thing do you regret
00:19:38
Speaker
trading me the fifth pick? Well, I mean, that's obviously a domino effect. I will say I was very high on Saquon. It was going to be my fifth pick. It was going to be, I guess, kind of a reach. But looking back, yeah, I mean, I probably would have stayed there at five knowing this kind of outcome. But I'm not going to look back. We can just look forward right now, Blake.
00:20:10
Speaker
That's true. I took an L this week too. I'm in the same boat. My team put up a few more points than yours, but as Rob stated, my team is apparently trash without my defense and my kicker. What's your take on kickers, Andrew? Are you supportive of Rob's motion to abolish kickers?
The Role of Kickers in Fantasy Football
00:20:30
Speaker
No, and that was the other conversation we had today. Kicker is very high on Rob's priority amendment for next year.
00:20:40
Speaker
I obviously, I like the kicker. I've had great kickers in the past. And obviously I drafted pretty high this year on one that missed a 50 yarder for me. But I think, I mean, there's some adjustments that I guess we could do, you know, subtracting a point for a 50, two for 40, three for 30 yards. But that's just another conversation we can have later on.
00:21:10
Speaker
I definitely think we need to keep the kickers in the lineup. For sure. Okay. Okay. Yeah. There you heard it, Rob. There you heard it. Andrew, this is your moment in the, uh, in the sunshine and spotlight with league of hard knocks before we let you finish your medulla call it a night. Yeah. Anything that you just wanted to air out, get out there for the league.
00:21:38
Speaker
Let the league hear, you can address everyone here and they can't argue back, except for James and I, which we want. No, I'm just, I'm coming for that cup. I'm coming for your ass Blake. I already told you that. My rival is who I'm playing each week. So yeah, I'm hungry. I'm one of the last two starving to reach the mountain and
00:22:07
Speaker
I was gonna, I was ready for you to ask me who was on Georgia's football team, but I was just gonna name two players, Cash Jones and London Humphries, two white boys that just can freaking ball. What are y'all thinking? Do you think Tennessee has a shot? I'm not even gonna bring up Auburn, Blake, but
00:22:35
Speaker
I think it, yeah, this is our Knox podcast. And I already had that. We shouldn't do that. James. Yeah, Andrew. I think if I was a Georgia fan, I'd be a very afraid right now of the balls. Um, if I had to make the line right now, I'm calling it.
00:22:58
Speaker
Georgia minus eight and a half and I'd hammer the balls all day. I'm curious when we get there, what it'll actually be. But I imagine somewhere in the seven and a half to nine and a half range could see some early early bets coming in on Georgia, pushing it closer to nine and a half or 10. And it's an Athens. No, no, it is not balls. We got Florida and BAM are our two biggest home games this year. So we'll be be.
00:23:28
Speaker
in Samford. Yeah, I think uh, I think Tennessee's only loss is going to be Oklahoma and Georgia. I think Bama and Florida at home will be good at 10 and two.
Podcast Fallout and Reflection
00:23:44
Speaker
We'll see though. But yeah, now I uh, that's really all I got for you boys. I don't have much. I'm gonna finish this Modello and uh, appreciate you guys having me on.
00:23:57
Speaker
Yeah, we're really sorry that we couldn't get more interaction between you and your rival. We had no idea that the rivalry had gotten that personal that you couldn't even stand the side of each other. Yeah. Bobby didn't even have his camera on for what it's worth. I was about to say, when I caught on there. I didn't know it was that contentious. Yeah, it was. I didn't know it was that contentious. AI on the other side. Yeah.
00:24:19
Speaker
Yeah, Andrew, I just want to thank you for actually giving us your time because the first guest did not. And so kudos to you for that. It's not easy to show up after a loss, but you're you're given the league, your comments, your time and some some honest interaction. So thank you for that. At least I can do boys. Alright, Andrew, stay safe out there. Good night.
00:24:55
Speaker
Well, wow. Wow. All right. Um, I, I'm just taken back by, by what we just witnessed, uh, what was an attempt to bring the league together. James really, really backfired and the commissioner after only about four minutes on the podcast.
00:25:22
Speaker
So I Andrew jumped in and couldn't, couldn't stay on a media reactions from you. I'm, I'm kind of in a state of shock. I'm going to pour a glass of, uh, I'm drinking a Cabernet Sauvignon from Argentina here. Hey, wonderful. As long as it's not from Australia, Blake, you're probably safe. That's where the Shiraz is predominant. Yeah. Selfishly, um, as your co-host, I feel very robbed.
00:25:48
Speaker
of what promised to be electric podcast entertainment for the league. It's frustrating. I thought BOMMY was a little choppy there. We didn't get a true version of BOMMY represented there. So that was tough. That was tough. I hope that won't be the last time we have them on.
00:26:14
Speaker
He really had his guard up. I just want to hear the real Bommie. So maybe we'll get him again. That could have been it. I think he sensed a little bit of entrapment. We never said, hey, Bommie, you're going to be the only guest on the show tonight. And just for our listeners, that wasn't at all edited. Bommie jumped on as soon as Andrew connected.
00:26:43
Speaker
Bommie did his like, I don't even know what that was. He got flustered, went through his picks and then bailed. Wow, I didn't know it was that heated between those two. It's true rivalry, true bad blood. Yeah, there was too much chatter going on. I was trying to, I think we were both trying to keep him on and I couldn't really tell what his picks were. I guess we'll get some,
00:27:12
Speaker
balmy content on the signal Friday, where we get spammed with a bunch of lengthy messages instead. So maybe that's, that's where he feels more comfortable. So more, more power to you, commission on that. But maybe the first lady will have more to say. I mean, at this point, that is our best shot at bringing back
00:27:36
Speaker
a bomb gardener to this podcast. I think we've probably lost trust with our commissioner. We probably should have told him that Andrew is joining, but as a commissioner, you have to be ready to address the league. And he started to address the league, but then once we brought someone from the league on, he couldn't handle the pressure. So again, hiding behind his signal messages is something very long signal essays we saw from bombing over this past week.
00:28:04
Speaker
And again, I thought there was some great content in there. I, I hearted several of his comments, but he, he, he's putting a wall between himself and the people. And, and I mean, it, it was never more visible than it was tonight. He got on with us. He was a little bit guarded and shaky, as you mentioned, Andrew jumps on and he's out. So, I mean, I think that that changes the narrative is now can he face the public?
00:28:32
Speaker
That's a great question. I, I agree with you. Bommie's content, the takes were good on the, on the power rankings. I just, that format didn't work for me. If he wants to put it on the league manager note, or we can see it whenever we visit the homepage, that's great, but it gets so lost in the signal messages. You got people talking about.
00:28:56
Speaker
you know, what they had for lunch or trying to get us to drink a lunch beer with Andrew. And then it's gone. I just want the content to be accessible. And as we know, you know, Jake may never read him because he's probably 300 messages behind. So it's about having the league be able to access your content, whether it is podcast or or whatever, whatever you choose. So yeah, disappointed,
Week One Matchup Review
00:29:22
Speaker
disappointed. But let's get into fantasy football, Blake.
00:29:26
Speaker
It was a great week one. One of the things that really stuck out to me, which will bring me into my segment here, was the amount of targets that my second round pick had. For those of you who are not watching or don't care, I'll still mention it, Cooper Cup successfully reached and caught
00:29:52
Speaker
14 of his 21 targets, I believe. I probably got the receptions wrong. And so that got my wheels turning. How many guys have caught or had more targets in a game? Targets is what we're all after, right? And so I pulled up this list. I'm gonna do a little trivia with you here, Blake. I've got the top 10. I've actually got the top 25. We're mainly gonna talk about the top 10 here.
00:30:19
Speaker
I'm curious how many guys you can name in the history of fantasy football. Who has the most targets in an NFL game? How many of the top 10 can you name? You don't have to tell me how many targets.
00:30:39
Speaker
Okay. So these are, these are going to be catchable targets. Like, like these are all pass catchers. I'm guessing like a, like a handoff wouldn't count as, as a target. Obviously. There, yes, there is one, one tight end in the group. That's the one, uh, one little cheat that I'll give you there, but these are all receivers. It's not catchable targets. I guess just targets in a game. Top 10. How many guys can you name?
00:31:09
Speaker
Okay. Um, I'm trying to think back at all time legends of fantasy football. Uh, Tio. That is correct. He is coming in at number eight with 22 targets. Remember when we met Tio? Yes, I do. Okay. I will send that out to the signal in the morning. Yeah. Yeah. That's why it immediately popped in my head. Uh, okay.
00:31:39
Speaker
Uh, Mr. Big chest, Antonio Brown has to be up there. That is correct. He is at number three with 23 targets. Okay. Okay. I got two. I get two. That's pretty solid. Some of the names are tough on here. You got to dig deep. Okay. Antonio Brown, Tio. Uh, Oh gosh. I'm trying to think back to like classic.
00:32:05
Speaker
quarterback wide receiver stacks. Oh, I mean in his prime had to be had to be DeAndre Hopkins. Back to his mom. Hopkins is on the list. Number six with 22 targets. Okay. Okay. This is pretty good. I trust you're not cheating here. No, no, I, I not. Marvin Harrison. I'm thinking Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison back in the day. That's gotta be top 10.
00:32:33
Speaker
He is not in the top 10. He is in the top 25. He's got 21. So there's a long list of guys tied with Cooper Cupp with 21. So yeah, technically he is top 10. Good guess. OK. I'm just trying to think of stacks here. Classic stacks. No.
00:33:02
Speaker
I mean, I don't know how far back we're going. Got to be Randy Moss. Country Randy Moss has got to be in there somewhere, but probably not top 10. Well, he is tied for ninth with Cooper Cupp, yes. OK, OK. I'm struggling. I'll give you three more games here. I haven't guessed a tied end. OK, I guess, is Kelsey in there? Kelsey is.
00:33:31
Speaker
Not in the top 25. Wow. Okay. Two more guesses then I'll run through a couple here and there's, there's two standouts that are on this list a bunch. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Maybe, maybe peak Rogers and, uh,
00:33:53
Speaker
either Lazard or Devontae Adams, one of those two. I'm just guessing both, Lazard and Devontae Adams. Throw me in for both of those. That would be correct with Devontae. The interesting part of this list is there are two guys who are on here three times. Devontae has 21 targets twice, so tied for ninth. And he's also got a 20 target game. Cooper Cuff is on here three times.
00:34:22
Speaker
with a 20, sorry, he's on here twice with a 20 target game and a 21 target game. So those were the two that really stuck out to me. We'll just go through a little blast from the past year. I'll go one through 10. Brandon Marshall, number one all time with 28 targets back in the game. What year was that? 2009, I believe this was the Jay Cutler era.
00:34:53
Speaker
Okay, we would have still been, that would have been our first year in college, right? That would have been back in the stock, the Stuckey, the $5 foot long era. I have not looked this up, but if my memory serves me correct here, I believe AJ had Brandon Marshall during that era. Number two. Who was throwing to Brandon Marshall? I'm really diving into this. Who was the quarterback for the Broncos in 2009?
00:35:24
Speaker
I believe it's Jay Cutler. Was it Cutler? Just throwing it up. It had to be. It had to be smoking Jay Cutler. So here's the hardest one that nobody in the league would have ever guessed. And I had to actually click on his name to remember who it was. Chris Chambers, 26 targets, December 4th of 2005 for the Miami Dolphins. Wow.
00:35:53
Speaker
What did he finish with? How many catches of those 26 targets? I'm strictly looking at targets here. Antonio Brown. Four catches, like four catches, 26 targets. I don't even know who Chris Chambers is. I mean, I probably couldn't pick Chris Chambers out in a crowd of two. He's probably like, how old is Chris Chambers now? That's a great question. He's probably in his 50s, gotta be.
00:36:18
Speaker
So the next three guys all have 23 targets. Antonio Brown, who you guessed, the only tight end on the list, Jason Witten in 2012. And this is a blast from the past for you Atlanta boys, Roddy White, 2010, 23 targets. Roddy. Wow. It was a problem. It was a problem. Roddy White, Roddy White was a legend.
00:36:47
Speaker
Then you guessed correctly, Hopkins. These next three all have 22. You guessed two of the three here. Hopkins, Vincent Jackson, and Terrell Owens. And then it goes to Cooper Cupp, Devontae, and a number of guys here at 21. But fun little exercise there to go through targets. It was kind of fun.
00:37:16
Speaker
There's a little league trivia. It might be a recurring segment if we get some more outliers like that. Well, I mean, I think it's a good segue into current day, right? Week one just wrapped up. We're talking about players getting, getting target share that we weren't expecting to get target share. Uh, I noticed a couple, I noticed a couple and I mean, I'm not going to like,
00:37:45
Speaker
give out any, any secrets, but McLaughlin from the Broncos ended up, I think with, with 10 carries and five receptions.
Data-Driven Strategies and Trade Analysis
00:37:54
Speaker
Uh, I saw that the justice Hill for the Ravens kind of kind of got some more targets than I would like with, with Derek Henry back there, he had eight targets, which seems like a lot for a backup running back.
00:38:07
Speaker
I don't feel comfortable about that being a Derek Henry owner, but I guess it's worth the point. Bommie actually brought this up at the brief moment that Bommie was on the podcast. Bommie did not score well this last week, but he seemed really confident. I don't know if that was fake confidence. He was the second lowest score of the entire week at only 72.5 points. The only person lower was the norm who was in an absolute tailspin. And we'll get to that in just a moment.
00:38:35
Speaker
What's your takeaway with how this correlates to success in fantasy? Do you think there's a direct correlation, James? Like, Bommie's right. He got the targets. He's going to win the games? Or is this just a useless stat? What's your correlation here? Well, we know for a fact Bommie is a data-driven guy. I happen to listen to a lot of fantasy podcasts as much as I'm on the road.
00:39:04
Speaker
And a lot of the fantasy guys are all into target share, a dot average depth of target, uh, and stuff of that matter. And I think Bobby is very dialed into that. I took a picture of his draft board incognito, uh, on, on our famous draft night. And there was so much action going on there that I couldn't keep up. There was a lot of small percentages, like 0.3.
00:39:34
Speaker
in the green and point 1.7 in the red. Lots of stuff going on there. All to say, it's very clear with how Bobby drafts receivers, he's way into targets. And he mentioned specifically, my guys just aren't scoring yet. So I think he's going to double down on what he's doing. It's not produced a lot of championships lately.
00:40:01
Speaker
but only one year close to the norm. You could say it's been a successful operation for him. Yeah. James, we've got a lot to get into tonight. We kind of had a, a discongrode schedule here. I want to, I want to shift back to week one and let's give everyone a recap. I know, I know everyone was, was just addicted to their phones all day, Sunday, going into Monday night. How's my team going to look this year?
00:40:31
Speaker
Did my draft work? Who am I playing? How are they scoring? Let's do a little rapid fire recap. We can do this Scott Hanson, Chris Berman style, however you want. I'll start off with my matchup.
00:40:50
Speaker
That's fair. Because I feel like this is fair. Completely unbiased, and we said we'd be unbiased on this podcast, but I'll start with my match up. AJ has a squad, and we'll just go into it. Final score, 126.38 for just a bunch of old men. I guess he's keeping the name. Marsh Cats, 116.98. I lost by less than 10 points. Stand out fantasy performers.
00:41:15
Speaker
I was a hater on Anthony Richardson. He balled out in a loss, two-point loss against the Texans, 26 fantasy points. I thought that was fantastic for Anthony Richardson. Don't get me wrong, I had a dog on the other side. Josh Allen, 31.18 points. Loved what Josh gave me week one. Broke his hand, kept playing. He's in for Thursday night football. Excited to see that. We had some busts at starting running back. Etienne, crucial fumble, probably cost the Jaguars the game.
00:41:42
Speaker
Derek Henry, eh, meh, meh, meh, against a good chief's defense. Other notable things that I would say carry over, week over week, Remondre Stevenson had a heck of a game, and the Patriots looked like they have a little fight in them. I did not expect this. I should have expected it. They got rid of Belichick and his 20-year-old girlfriend, but Remondre Stevenson looked good. Tyreek is Tyreek, right? Tyreek.
00:42:12
Speaker
getting arrested the morning of the game. I knew, I knew. As soon as I knew, I was like, okay, he's gonna do some sort of celebration. The handcuff celebration was beautiful. I'm not upset, I'm not upset. 117 overall from my score. AJ takes it. Well deserved, AJ. You are the king of the regular season. James, I'll pass it over to you, the second matchup. I thought this one was a great matchup between Larry
00:42:42
Speaker
Yeah, let's dive in. As you know from my takes on the last episode, I was very high on Larry's draft and it showed with his performance. So Larry's going to be a very top heavy guy here with his first three players. Lamar showed out great. He looks spry. He looks willing to run. Saquon.
00:43:07
Speaker
This is the Saquon that everyone who's ever drafted him in this league has always been waiting for. He showed out offensive line still looks good. He's going to score a lot of touchdowns this year. I think they're going to try to take the stress off Jalen Hurts. Jameer Gibbs looks shifty coming off that hamstring injury. Looks good. I love the Lions. I love Jameer Gibbs.
00:43:31
Speaker
Receivers. This is something to be concerned about, even with almost 137 points for Larry. Harrison, Flowers, and Ayuk combined for less than 10 points. That is concerning, but
00:43:47
Speaker
Late draft pick really came through for Larry as well as the bottom of his roster here JK Dobbins flashed Steelers defense solid and just for Rob Jake Moody scores 26 points Bomb squad who I did predict to be a
00:44:07
Speaker
A norm front runner came out with a dud. He loves his targets, didn't love the lack of touchdowns. Again, I will say, I hate this lineup. Wilson showed a little flash. Najee Harris looked like Najee Harris. Mahomes. We'll see how that offense turns out. But Baltimore has got a decent defense. Jamar.
00:44:36
Speaker
That's kind of what we expected, slow start to the year. And I was expecting a little bit more out of DEBO, especially after the CMAQ injury, but Bonnie goes down with 72.54 to Larry's 136.92. Back to you, Blake. Oh, wow. Okay. So Bonnie, Bonnie coming in without, without...
00:44:58
Speaker
much context and just throws a dud. We already mentioned that. Billy's Rhino. Not much to say here. The Billy's get an easy win with a terrible performance. Eight points from Joe Burrow. The blonde beauty. Will put up a dud. His highest score was I think Fairbairn. I think his kicker. Shout out Rob. He had a pretty good performance from AJ Brown. Drake London with 1.5.
00:45:26
Speaker
A Taylor Swift's boyfriend with 3.4. Yeah. Will's team didn't impress me 86.86 points. Uh, but he ran into the norm who. Yeah. Looks like he's still the norm. He took some of my players, Kyron and I'm on raw and they ended up with 12 points combined. Uh, I'm gonna raw with 1.3.
00:45:48
Speaker
I think that's one of his lowest totals in the past like three years. Mark Andrews, 1.4. Givante Williams, 2.3. Rhino, you got some work to do, man. You're looking like you could be front runner for back to back norms, which James, I think brings us into another great matchup here. Historian and the chef. I love this one for many reasons.
00:46:14
Speaker
Let's break it down real quick. Historian took a little flack in the draft. Some people on this podcast saying he was a norm front runner. But he comes out with the win 117 to 101 over Yes Chef. Reasons to be excited for Jake. Scoring 100 points or over 100 is great. Jalen Hertz looked solid. Bijon.
00:46:42
Speaker
Decent Aaron Jones. He always looks good at the beginning of the year reasons to be concerned Puka on IR a lobby garden tough game 1.1 Laporta Shirley Hill bounce back kind of had a rough outing with 4.5 and How many times is Jake gonna get 40 points combined from the Cowboys D and their kicker Brandon Aubry and
00:47:10
Speaker
probably not a lot. The historian puffing his chest, not willing, not afraid to dive into a trade even after a win. Reese Hall had a little bit of pop, Pacheco. It was really, the story was balance, balance for the historian as he just kind of got it all over the place. He made the gamble with Xavier worthy that paid off. And I think Mike Evans still looks like old
00:47:40
Speaker
or young Mike Evans, I should say. And I'm excited to see where the historian goes from here. And with my side bet with Jake, it could not have gone any better after one week. Yeah. Finishing it off. Smooth Moves bandwagoner.
00:47:56
Speaker
You took this one, 110.78 to 82.86, a comfortable win. I would call it comfortable. I felt like you were always in control from the get-go, but I'm not gonna hear and just gas you up. I think you got a little lucky. I think you got a little lucky. Pittman with only three really killed Andrew. And obviously Andrew's shaking up his team, but the foundation there is still strong, except he traded it all away.
00:48:23
Speaker
He traded it all away. CJ is gone. I don't really know where Andrew goes from here, but I know that Rob just stole the number one pick in the draft from Andrew. I wasn't gonna say it with Andrew on a podcast, but Rob absolutely took advantage of a mentally defeated Andrew in that trade. And how does ties into this game is James, top to bottom,
00:48:49
Speaker
I see a lot of consistency and the puka injury is just going to benefit you. Cooper cup 18 points. I expect that to tick up. Jefferson doesn't matter who's throwing to him. And by the way, the Vikings looked pretty good. Joe Mixon without gloves. I don't know if you saw that Joe Mixon was not wearing gloves. That's that's hard. That is bad ass. He's out there 23.8 points with no gloves on.
00:49:15
Speaker
As a running back, Joe Mixon looks like he is reinvigorated by being in Houston. Uh, a chain to Johnny, however you say his name, I heard he's a little bit of an injury risk moving forward. The dolphins are going to score points and I thought Kylo looked good. I thought Kylo could have scored more than 15 points. Uh, I don't know what you're doing. Starting to leak neighbors though. Don't don't like that.
00:49:36
Speaker
don't see any value in the league neighbors long-term, because Daniel Jones is throwing to him, I wouldn't wanna touch any Daniel Jones receiver with a 10-foot ball. But yeah, not a lot of good things to say about the bandwagon, but it's a totally different team going into week two, so how can I even comment on the bandwagoner? That's it for our week one recap, unless you have anything to add there. I know I just jumped briefly into Andrew and Rob's trade, so I think we need to continue that conversation as we cap week one. I'll just,
00:50:06
Speaker
Blow the whistle on week one. Let's move on to week two. Andrew and Rob in this trade. We've heard from Andrew. I'd love to bring Rob on the podcast, possibly as soon as next week, but why do you make of this trade? Just my take really quick, James, is that as I just stated, Andrew panicked early.
00:50:32
Speaker
And Rob saw weakness and saw an opportunity to pounce on a person that likes to get a deal done. I love getting a deal done with Andrew, but trading away the number one pick after one week, unprecedented, unprecedented. Yeah, it was, it was wild. And as is tradition, uh, a few times a week, I will.
00:50:58
Speaker
Field a Rob Leonard call in the afternoon and we talked for quite some time about the trade his spirits are Sky high right now He feels that he got the better of the trade He's got the entire backfield now. So the injury risk is not a concern to him and he feels that the pieces that he gained only strengthened his team and
00:51:23
Speaker
Selfishly, I really wanted to deal one of my two quarterbacks to Rob and that's probably off the table now So I'll be looking for other trade partners, but Rob is is feeling good. I think there was some sound judgment there by him and I Love when Rob is winning actually, I know you don't but when Rob's winning the league is fun it's also fun when Rob's losing but I
00:51:50
Speaker
We need Rob spear tie right now. Yeah. Yeah. We don't need negative Bob. That's no one likes negative Bob. And I will, I will give Rob some credit here. One. I like the trade for Rob. I think McCaffrey bounces back and has a monster year. I really do too. Rob's working himself back. He's working himself back on arrival territory. I said I would address this on the pod. I will address this on the pod, Rob.
00:52:16
Speaker
What happened, man? Did you find a pot of gold? You're going all in now. Throw in bets around that I've never seen you throw. I love it. I love it. A full year of league dues plus naming rights and you throw out before week one really even kicks off. How could I turn that bet down? It's spicy. I play Rob every week now.
00:52:45
Speaker
And it's making me rethink my rival choice. I mean, I'm gonna have to reassess. It might even be a mid-season reassessment of who my rival is. Because right now, I have a bet with Rob that's gonna pay off my league dues for next year. And I could name Rob's team. All I gotta do is outscore him during the regular season.
00:53:07
Speaker
I'm not getting that from my new rival. I'm not saying Rob's back on my rival list. I'm just saying Rob is a person, a candidate of interest for me. And I couldn't be more excited to play Rob every week because that's essentially what we've created is now I play Rob and my opponent. So yeah, Rob, you're making moves. You're making bets. I'm loving this version of Bob and I can't wait to have him on the show.
00:53:35
Speaker
Oh, it's it is the best version of Bob. And as a man with a season long side bet, it is exhilarating. So I'm glad you've jumped in to that with me. Also, I would say I think you're approaching the rival thing with a little too much Auburn blinders on. You're just looking for your Bama. Be a Tennessee fan and hate Bama and Florida and Kentucky. Don't limit yourself to one rival, Blake, because you stir the pot very well.
00:54:05
Speaker
And that makes me want to re-engage with Andrew more. And I want to have Andrew and Jake as rivals. Maybe AJ. Andrew, the one thing I'll say about Andrew being on, when we get him on audio, it is a far different Andrew than the keyboard warrior. That's the only thing I felt very robbed of during that interview. I appreciated his time, but I want to spice it back up with Andrew.
00:54:35
Speaker
I'm going to start digging. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard because we get one person on the keyboard with, with the commissioner bombing and with Andrew. And I think that's what builds up this hatred between the two. And it's true hatred. We saw it on display tonight. I was, I was actually, again, taken back by what occurred, but at the end of the day,
00:55:03
Speaker
They're one person with their thumbs and another person with their mouths.
Rivalry Dynamics in Internet Culture
00:55:07
Speaker
And when you put them together, they couldn't actually verbalize all the hatred they spew on the group chat, which is very interesting. It's very indicative of internet culture, right? All these people will get on Twitter, Facebook, whatever. Just say crazy shit and then...
00:55:24
Speaker
get them face to face and they won't say anything. It's very, very, very interesting. So if anyone wants to put their money where their thumbs are, you're welcome on the podcast. We'd love to have you back, Andrew. We do appreciate you on the show. Bommie, we would like to hear from the commissioner from time to time as well, but tonight was an interesting one. I'm interested to see the league's reaction to
00:55:51
Speaker
to how the commissioner is acting in this situation. So, I mean, I don't know James, I don't know. We're in for a spicy week too. We're in for a very spicy week too and a 2024 season at that. I believe so. It's off to a great start. Can't wait to see where it goes and
00:56:12
Speaker
Can't wait to see who our next podcast guest is. Honestly, I want some takes. It's it's great to talk to everybody, but I want takes. And I want ruffling on the podcast. This is what creates more engagement. And I get on here and and jump off after five minutes or go a little soft on the takes and say you enjoyed bombing as a roommate. That didn't really get me going. So let's spice it up, boys.
00:56:43
Speaker
Yeah. And you're right. We don't have to be monogamous with rivals. Maybe I'm getting into too many conservative traditional values and thinking that I can only be with one rival. Maybe I can spice it up. Maybe I can be with two rivals. Maybe even three rivals. You hinted at that. So maybe between my wife and I, I want to keep things monogamous.
00:57:12
Speaker
But maybe between rivals, I explore my animalistic instincts, you know? So Rob, you might be back, you might be back on the menu.
00:57:29
Speaker
Rob might be back on the menu. Rob, I really am excited about this season and competing each and every week and hearing you bitch about my kicker points. That's just gonna be a common theme. Maybe we can make that a segment. Let's just go next week, maybe James, we'll just do kicker point totals. We'll do a breakdown a week too, but we only go through how many the kicker scored. Ignore everything else.
00:57:56
Speaker
And that's good. I would love that. And that sounds great. I will be if we record next week, I will be fairly intoxicated on a golf trip in the Pacific Northwest live from Band and Dunes. So I'm sure we can arrange something.
00:58:14
Speaker
Oh yeah. Yeah. There's a, there's an app for that. Uh, we'd like to thank the league for listening. Whoever stuck with us, uh, for this, uh, this hour segment, Rob, we're sorry about the extra 15 minutes as usual. And, uh, I hope that everyone has a wonderful Thursday. We do have Thursday night football tonight and, and it's a good one. It's a good one. I know, I know we're rolling over kind of a new leaf here, but I'm excited to see Josh Allen, uh,
00:58:41
Speaker
Shout out to the norm for calling us out on who was covering Thursday Night Football. James, do you know who's covering the game this week? Is it NBC? Is it Prime? I believe it's Prime this week, but good call out by Rhino. And it was great to hear from him. Hope to hear from him more.
00:59:07
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, shut up Norm. All right, this has been Stoned by Cornbread. This is our third episode of the season. We're just getting started. Thank you for listening. James, any final thoughts here? Let's watch some football.