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It's Better than the Game? (7th Guest: Part 3)
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Maybe? At least the death scenes are kinda cool.
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Game's Extended Ending Beyond the Book
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It was abrupt.
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It was definitely abrupt.
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Um, and it kind of makes sense if you've played the game in the sense of like, they took the game takes it, uh,
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an extra couple of steps further than the book does.
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So they kind of had to just like, and the ghost came out and took care of it.
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Like, that's it.
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You know, it's, it was very abrupt.
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The end.
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Yeah, pretty much.
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I mean, it's, it's not, it's, it doesn't, they don't, they don't like, they don't take anything clever with it.
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They're just like, and it doesn't work and he's dead.
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Like it does kind of just abruptly end.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know what else abruptly ends?
Introduction to Hosts and Show Focus
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Hey there, everybody.
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Welcome back to Pixlet.
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My name is Kevin.
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With me as always is Phil.
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On today's show, we're finishing The Seventh Guest.
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It actually does kind of abruptly end a lot of times.
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I do cut off the cutoff bit quite a bit at the end of the episode.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, it's fun.
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It's fun.
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The people love it.
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The four people who wait until the very end of the episode.
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They love it.
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Yeah, it's it's we're finishing seventh guest.
Patreon Promotion and Supporters Shoutout
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And but first, before I tell you about seventh guest, I want to tell you about the seventh best website in the world, and that's patreon.com slash pixel at pod.
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Oh.
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Thank you for being a friend.
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Uh, so, yeah, that's, that's, that's, uh, that's the Patreon spot for tonight.
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Um...
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We're finishing up this book.
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I think it's going to be an interesting ending based on... Oh, yes.
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Yeah.
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We marsh this motherfucker.
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We marsh this motherfucker.
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So let's put the body in the marsh.
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Let's do it.
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Body.
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Marsh.
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Now.
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When I tell you to dump a body in the marsh, you dump them in the marsh.
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We start off at chapter
Sinister Sacrificial Plans in the Game
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23.
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Our young street urchin Tad finds Temple in the game room where he had been freaking out before.
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We left him having a panic attack because he's kind of realized what the plan here is.
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He's intuited it somehow.
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Temple properly freaks the kid out and the kid runs.
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Showing that tab might be the most logical and thoughtful person in this entire book.
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The only one who acts like a real human being.
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Yes, exactly.
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Yeah, we come to Eleanor and Temple.
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They find a doll room.
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It is it is filled with dolls and the dolls are they contain the souls of the dead children and they've been gathered and they find out through them that they've been gathered there to do a sacrifice.
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It will require the sacrifice of this.
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And let me let me be let me be specific.
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Let me be clear.
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Um, it is that it, these dolls contain the souls of the dead children.
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The dolls start talking to them and it is awful.
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Yeah, it is.
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It is.
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It is.
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It is the only scene in this book that made my skin crawl a little bit.
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Yeah.
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Is that these, it was like, oh, the, the toy dolls that the kids had, they,
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The kids died because the dolls like sucked their souls out.
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Yeah.
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The, the, the, the, the dolls act as like a plus 10 vampirism curse object basically.
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It just drained them and just took their souls into them.
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And it's, I mean, that's, it's properly spooky.
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It really is.
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It, it, we get, we get a handful of those moments.
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It's pretty interesting to the point where we've got another book from this author coming up that is also got some opportunities for spooktacular spooktacular.
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Yeah.
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So I'm looking forward to seeing how that that goes.
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We got to we are at Chapter 24.
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Dutton solves a coin puzzle.
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It's another one of these instances where it's like a puzzle and it's just kind of they don't give us really any specifics.
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We just know that he solves it.
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Yeah, he solves it.
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And I'm like, OK, this is one of the last times they do this.
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It is.
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Thankfully, because I got my eyes kind of glaze over as as they talk about the puzzles.
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Yeah.
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And I went through a I watched most of a playthrough of this game because it's been a very long time since I played it just to get up to snuff on the original source material.
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And I got to say, there are like three, maybe four of these moments in the book, and they had lots of opportunities to do this.
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They shouldn't have done it at all.
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But they could have they really could have worked that shit into the ground.
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So thank you for your restraint, guys.
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Right.
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I suppose.
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One guy to write the puzzle, one guy to make it worse.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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That's pretty much it.
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So Dutton finds an altar room where the choir sound that he that drove him batty a few episodes ago was coming from.
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Here we go.
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He solves a floor trap.
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Oh yeah.
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That's like he steps on the wrong color and it like shocks him or whatever.
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Right.
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Right.
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And it's like hurting him.
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It's this pain thing.
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You know, I liked to think of it as the, the floor trap and, and last crusade with like electricity or something like that.
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Right.
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I did actually imagine Dutton going Jay and just busting through the, the floor, even though that wasn't in the book.
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I, I still, I, I gave myself that, that little treat.
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Um,
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So he makes his way to the center of the altar and he sees a vision of Stauf as this high priest, like full on Anton LaVey velvet robes, high priest kind of guy.
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And he's given this glimpse of the good life that he'll get if he agrees to sacrifice Tad.
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And he's given a knife to to to.
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do the deed, I suppose.
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Yeah.
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To figure it out.
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Yeah.
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He would be a lot cooler if he was Anton LaVey, though.
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That would be that would be at least interesting.
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That would be this guy.
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This guy's just kind of they're all kind of schlubby villains.
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Honestly, that's the thing.
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Stauf, we don't see enough of him to feel particularly threatened by him.
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And these other people don't really do it for me.
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So at least LaVey would have some level of at least some level of like pretentious menace.
Nostalgia for 'Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves'
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Uh, you know, something, but, uh, not, no, no doing that.
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Uh, right.
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Done here.
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Um, we do, but speaking of stuff, we do, uh, cut back to him and his, his, I it's either a camera room or he's like over a cauldron, uh, like Skeletor style and just like seeing all this shit.
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I just imagine he's doing the thing from Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, where she's like, she's spitting into the thing and scratching it with her nails.
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I have seen a death.
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The painted man.
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He haunts my dreams.
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And Alan Rickman is like, what do you say, witch?
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I like that movie.
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It's not a good movie, but I like it.
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It's not a good movie, but I got it.
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I feel like I need to rewatch it.
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It's it's fun.
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If you come to it with an open mind, Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves was the 89 90.
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I remember seeing it.
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It was the summer of I got to look this up now.
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Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.
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I know I was over.
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We were in Germany.
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1991.
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Okay.
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And I was it was we're we're down the shore.
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I forget which beach we were going to at that time for summer vacation.
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But yeah, I remember, you know, us going to see it in the movie theater.
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It's like one of those early memories.
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I guess I would have been seven years old when it came out.
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Yeah.
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I think we did a similar thing.
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We were
Christian Slater's 90s Career Discussion
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on base and it was one of those old military theaters where it's just an old-fashioned theater with one screen and this is the movie we're showing this week.
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I think that's what we did.
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And yeah, I still have really fun memories of that movie.
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It's still it's fun.
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It's not good.
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Again, not good.
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Not a good movie.
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Not a good movie, but it's Kevin Costner.
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Really?
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He really tried it.
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Not trying.
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Yeah.
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His his his lack of effort was was very willful and filled with effort.
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He yeah, he tried it, not trying.
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And it was a beautiful thing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Watch.
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Yeah.
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Watch Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.
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I want to hear what hear what you think.
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And Christian Slater was Will Scarlet in it.
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He's Will Scarlet.
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And he tries to do an English accent, as I recall.
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It's not good, but at least he made the effort.
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Yeah, but I appreciate Christian Slater.
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And I always thought the name Will Scarlett sounded cool.
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That was my brother's stance as well.
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That was his favorite character.
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He thought he was the coolest.
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Yeah.
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And I think I probably because he was here, probably because he was played by Christian Slater.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, probably.
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Because Christian Slater, I don't know if you guys know this.
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But Christian Slater had like a certain level of effortless cool that he had when he was the word for it.
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Yeah.
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When he was a young actor.
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I mean, he's still cool.
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90% of that is just his very unique voice.
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This kind of like like junior Jack Nicholson thing that he does.
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Yeah, exactly.
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People because they do trot him out now.
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And he has he's got this level of cachet now that I think Zennials and everybody else is starting.
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They're starting to be introduced to it in a small way.
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But but some of you don't realize how big of a goddamn deal he was for about 18 months.
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He was for a year and a half.
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That motherfucker was huge.
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He was a big fucking deal in 1991.
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Big fucking deal.
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Yeah.
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Oh, big time.
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Big time.
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Yeah.
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He follows up Robin Hood Prince of Thieves with Mobsters, where he played Lucky Luciano.
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Oh, fucks sake.
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That's hilarious.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He had a voice in Fern Gully.
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Yeah, it was then he was in 93.
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He was in True Romance.
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He looks great.
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He has not aged a fucking all this talk about Paul Rudd.
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He looks fantastic.
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Yeah, he was he's in the new Dexter, the Dexter prequel series.
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Oh, Dexter original sin.
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He plays Dexter's dad, Harry Morgan.
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Oh, fun.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Who was played by what?
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Fuck.
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What's his name in the original?
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A fan of the show.
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Fan of the show.
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Friend of the show.
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A guy that we've referenced a bunch of times.
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James Remar.
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There we go.
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Oh, yeah.
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James Remar.
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Yeah.
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Lovely.
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Lovely.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's he's I'm glad he's working.
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He's he's a.
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he's a, he's a pretty talented dude and he's, and he's, he's cool.
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You're right.
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It, it was, it was young guns with him.
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That was a big one.
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Um, pump up the volume was very big.
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Uh, uh, true romance.
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Yeah.
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And then, yeah, then you've got like Fern Gully and things like Broken Arrow and Cuffs and shit like that.
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I didn't know that I knew so much about his filmography.
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Yeah, it's he and he played.
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Here's something for us to actually look into is he was Edward Carnby in the Alone in the Dark adaptation.
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Yes, he was.
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Yes, he was.
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What was that?
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That was like mid 2005.
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Yeah.
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There you go.
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There you go.
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Yeah.
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Christian Slater, a guy who never stops working.
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He's in like seven movies every year and also TV shows.
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The dude keeps it tight.
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He's got a guy.
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He's got, he is a working goddamn actor.
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Good for him.
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Good for you, Christian Slater.
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Anyway, back proud of your buddy.
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Anyway, back to seven guests.
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We cut to stuff.
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Watching, watching old, old.
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So that was that was watching people to let's let's let's work that out because somebody is going to ask those those staff watching people to the witch in in Robin Hood.
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Prince of Thieves.
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Yes.
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To Scarlet to brought us to Scarlet, Christian Slater, Christian Slater.
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There we go.
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There it is.
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Here we go.
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Here we go.
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We got it.
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We got this.
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We know where we know where we're going.
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There's a whole reason we're doing this.
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This is all premeditated.
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So we get we get another one of these internal self monologues, you know, where he's like, oh, you just imagine you do kind of get the witch vibe from Prince of Thieves.
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It's just this kind of like craggy old man.
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And we get an internal monologue about him needing this sacrifice and how the kids souls are going to make him more powerful.
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And it only begins with this and all that.
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And how his old name was shit house.
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Right.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Just more Robin Hood.
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More Robin Hood.
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Men in tights.
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Because unlike certain Robin Hoods, I can speak with an English accent.
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That's a good one.
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That's a really good one.
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We cut back to Tad.
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He's trying to find his way out.
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We get a lot of Tad moments in this last third of the book where it's like him seeing spooky shit.
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Like, it's just like you'll get like a page and a half of Tad.
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And in this case, he's seeing a piano playing itself.
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And then the chapter ends with him getting grabbed from behind.
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And chapter 25, we start off again with Stauf.
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He's
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He's I love this moment.
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He basically he's sitting around considering how much easier life is when you're just allowed to play games and not deal with a wife and kids.
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And I felt attacked in that particular section.
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Because they literally is like kids and games and puzzles are really where it's at.
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It's like, can I can I stop?
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Can I put down the whole murdering children thing?
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Just a second to talk about how much I love Trivial Pursuit.
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I just really want to talk about that for a second.
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And we get, we get, we find out this is, this is his big incel moment.
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Me and Kevin discussed this.
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This is, this is the moment where he peak incel.
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Yeah.
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Peak incel.
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We find out why he picked the people he did specifically.
Stauf's Misogynistic Victim Selection
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And it's, it's, it's gone from, it goes from, uh, you think you're better than me, uh, to just full message board, eight Chan incel bullshit.
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Uh, and, uh, he's like, and it, it's, it's,
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It's not so crazy until it gets to the women.
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Big surprise.
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You know, we talked about the one guy who's like, well, he's got debt.
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He's easily manipulated.
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And that other guy, he's a businessman and he'd crush people underfoot if he got the chance.
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And the magician, he just thinks he knows everything.
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And then he's like, and Martin thinks he's so fucking hot.
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She's a woman and she's hot.
00:17:20
Speaker
And she never would have paid attention to me, so she deserves to die.
00:17:23
Speaker
Like and then then poor Julia.
00:17:26
Speaker
Julie gets gets the well, Julie's just a drunk old bitch.
00:17:30
Speaker
I've got plans for her, though.
00:17:32
Speaker
We'll figure something out.
00:17:36
Speaker
So women are either just like, ah, don't worry about it, or they should die because I saw their whale tail that one time, and that was aimed at me in a malicious way.
00:17:47
Speaker
Malicious whale tail.
00:17:49
Speaker
Malicious whale tail.
00:17:51
Speaker
It's the best slash worst kind of whale tail.
00:17:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:17:55
Speaker
Chapter 26.
00:17:57
Speaker
Brian Dutton is the one grabbing Tad from behind, and he's ready to give him up to Stauf.
00:18:04
Speaker
That's the whole plan.
00:18:05
Speaker
He's dragging him up towards the room at the top of the house, I guess, where Stauf is hiding out, which he just knows.
00:18:14
Speaker
Edward Knox and Martine intercept him, and they want to take the boy.
00:18:19
Speaker
So we get, of course, what...
00:18:22
Speaker
other thing would happen in this moment, but a knife fight, a goddamn knife fight, straight up knife fight, straight up knife fight.
00:18:31
Speaker
Dutton's brought his knife and it knocks, gets it away from him and stabs him a couple of times.
00:18:38
Speaker
And and Tad runs away in the kerfuffle going on.
00:18:44
Speaker
And Martine pursues him.
00:18:48
Speaker
Tad makes a break for the basement.
00:18:51
Speaker
He figures that I've gone up far enough.
00:18:54
Speaker
Every place I go further up is locked.
00:18:57
Speaker
Let's go down to the basement because that's always worked out for people in the past.
00:19:02
Speaker
Chapter 27 Temple finds a portal door.
00:19:05
Speaker
It's yes, it's it's very vaguely talked about and it's never addressed again.
00:19:15
Speaker
Um, he just, he just walks into this one door and ends up in a completely different part of the house.
00:19:20
Speaker
Uh, it's, it's, it's per, you know, it's per the video game, but it's like, I feel like, I feel like we should talk more about that if you're going to include that.
00:19:28
Speaker
Um, anyway, but forget about all that the authors did, uh, he ends up in a mad scientist lab, basically.
00:19:39
Speaker
Um, uh, you can totally imagine it.
00:19:41
Speaker
That's just the, the old, like Frankenstein set with like the Tesla, uh, uh, lightning, you know, shit.
00:19:48
Speaker
It's, it's that kind of vibe.
00:19:50
Speaker
Right.
00:19:50
Speaker
Um, he's looking for tad.
00:19:51
Speaker
Uh, he finds a diary where staff has very, uh, considerably written out everything, everything from the exposition that we, he basically, you know what?
00:20:04
Speaker
He found this, he found a copy of seventh guest, the novel, uh,
00:20:07
Speaker
It's that scene in Spaceballs where they're like, we're going to watch the script.
00:20:12
Speaker
Yeah.
00:20:13
Speaker
Where they're like, we're going to watch Spaceballs on VHS.
00:20:19
Speaker
Right.
00:20:19
Speaker
That's exactly
Chaotic Horror and Transformations
00:20:20
Speaker
it.
00:20:20
Speaker
That's basically what he does.
00:20:23
Speaker
It just gets him up to speed.
00:20:24
Speaker
We're looking at now, sir.
00:20:26
Speaker
Everything that's happening now is happening now.
00:20:28
Speaker
I totally expected like a never ending story moment where he starts reading.
00:20:32
Speaker
And then that, that meddlesome magician started reading my diary.
00:20:37
Speaker
What the fuck?
00:20:38
Speaker
And the nothing comes and takes them all away.
00:20:40
Speaker
That would be a better situation.
00:20:44
Speaker
Um,
00:20:46
Speaker
So basically the deal is that these voices are otherworldly beings.
00:20:50
Speaker
They want to enter the world.
00:20:52
Speaker
That's what the sacrifice is for.
00:20:54
Speaker
They're sick of working through people like Stauff and they want to come in themselves.
00:20:59
Speaker
And he's trying to set up a portal for them.
00:21:01
Speaker
And that's going to require the death of this seventh guest.
00:21:05
Speaker
And the other six are meant to basically assist him to to fight them.
00:21:10
Speaker
I got the impression that the other six people.
00:21:13
Speaker
Yeah, it was like, bring the boy to me.
00:21:16
Speaker
But it was also like, I'm going to throw these people in because I don't like them and fuck it.
00:21:20
Speaker
Let's see how many of them die on the way.
00:21:22
Speaker
Right.
00:21:23
Speaker
It feels a little personal.
00:21:25
Speaker
Yeah.
00:21:26
Speaker
So.
00:21:28
Speaker
So we get another really random moment here where Temple sees a vision of a man operating on another man.
00:21:37
Speaker
And like, again, to continue the Frankenstein theme, like lifting a brain, he's sawed off the top of this guy's head and he lifts a brain out of a jar.
00:21:45
Speaker
And presumably he's going to implant it in this random ass guy.
00:21:50
Speaker
Sure.
00:21:51
Speaker
And yeah.
00:21:52
Speaker
And Temple is.
00:21:54
Speaker
says no no none of that that's a distraction from what is important this is just ghost bullshit this is this is ghost gulf of america that's what this is it's a distraction from the shit that really matters and
00:22:11
Speaker
And just like the portal door, he leaves to go find Tad and it's never addressed again.
00:22:17
Speaker
It's never explained.
00:22:19
Speaker
It's just like, this is just some generic horror bullshit.
00:22:23
Speaker
I don't have time for it.
00:22:25
Speaker
That's it.
00:22:26
Speaker
I don't remember which one it was, but it's one of the Wayne's worlds where they're like, it's the climax and they're planning to pull off this big thing.
00:22:34
Speaker
And Wayne like says, walks into a warehouse and there are all these special forces people training and stuff.
00:22:40
Speaker
And they were like, what's this room for?
00:22:41
Speaker
He goes, oh, nothing.
00:22:42
Speaker
I've just always wanted to walk into like a clandestine operations room where like secret service agents are like training and shit.
00:22:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:22:50
Speaker
It's kind of like that.
00:22:51
Speaker
It's just like this random moment of spooky.
00:22:56
Speaker
Okay.
00:22:57
Speaker
It does become, as the book goes on, more and more of just like a haunted house kind of thing where you're walking through it and people jump out out of nowhere.
00:23:07
Speaker
There's no real plot to speak of.
00:23:09
Speaker
We got a munch.
00:23:12
Speaker
Hi.
00:23:13
Speaker
Hey, kid.
00:23:15
Speaker
How you doing, sweetie?
00:23:17
Speaker
Good.
00:23:18
Speaker
Good.
00:23:19
Speaker
I'm glad to hear that.
00:23:20
Speaker
What are you up to?
00:23:24
Speaker
You would have been very pleased.
00:23:26
Speaker
Graham was up and kind of walking around a pretty significant amount today.
00:23:31
Speaker
She missed that.
00:23:33
Speaker
Bye-bye.
00:23:33
Speaker
Okay.
00:23:34
Speaker
Okay.
00:23:34
Speaker
Bye-bye.
00:23:35
Speaker
She texted me the other day and she was like, is Graham walking around yet?
00:23:39
Speaker
And I was like, a little, a little bit.
00:23:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:23:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:23:43
Speaker
Anyway, yeah, it's it just becomes this haunted house thing where you're just walking on a path and people jump out and go, boo.
00:23:52
Speaker
And you go, OK, it's literally the haunted mansion.
00:23:55
Speaker
You're just in the haunted mansion at this point.
00:23:58
Speaker
That's pretty much it.
00:23:59
Speaker
With with with less money.
00:24:00
Speaker
With no windows and no doors.
00:24:05
Speaker
I do remember being on.
00:24:08
Speaker
Was that the which one was the one in Disney World that had the elevator, the haunted elevator thing?
00:24:13
Speaker
Tower of Terror.
00:24:14
Speaker
That's it.
00:24:15
Speaker
The Tower of Terror.
00:24:16
Speaker
I do remember being on that.
00:24:17
Speaker
And like the guy who was our host, like came out of nowhere.
00:24:22
Speaker
He had just been in the back behind like a curtain and he just kind of like walked.
00:24:25
Speaker
He like he did a good job.
00:24:26
Speaker
He like hovered in.
00:24:28
Speaker
You barely saw his feet move and it scared the piss out of this woman.
00:24:34
Speaker
To the point where she actually may have wet herself.
00:24:36
Speaker
She screamed and it scared the rest of us half to death because we didn't know what the fuck was going on.
00:24:42
Speaker
So it was and if I were that guy, I'd be like, oh, you I love you so much.
00:24:46
Speaker
You have set this whole thing off perfectly.
00:24:49
Speaker
It's perfect.
00:24:50
Speaker
It makes you know what it just reminds me of is this seeing the ring in the movies.
00:24:58
Speaker
And this would have been in Scranton in 2002, 2003 or something like that when I was at the University of Scranton.
00:25:10
Speaker
I'm in the back row.
00:25:11
Speaker
I'm watching it.
00:25:12
Speaker
And the scene at the end where Samara is coming out of the television.
00:25:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:25:20
Speaker
Iconic scene.
00:25:21
Speaker
Iconic scene.
00:25:22
Speaker
The woman, there's this woman towards the front just runs out screaming her head out, just runs out of the theater.
00:25:30
Speaker
And we're like, oh, OK.
00:25:32
Speaker
And like 30 seconds later, she runs back into the theater, still screaming.
00:25:41
Speaker
to grab her jacket oh that's and runs back out screaming again good for her good for her she committed
00:25:51
Speaker
That woman committed committed to the screaming.
00:25:55
Speaker
No, nothing but respect for that.
00:25:57
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:25:58
Speaker
Nothing but respect for my scream queen.
00:26:01
Speaker
Nothing but respect.
00:26:03
Speaker
So we cut to Martine and Knox.
00:26:07
Speaker
They run after Tad, leaving Dutton to bleed out Martine.
00:26:13
Speaker
Martine resolves her big takeaway from this is I need to manipulate people more often.
00:26:18
Speaker
Yeah, this is working well.
00:26:20
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:21
Speaker
She literally says she literally like goes, oh, I didn't have to do any of the dirty work.
00:26:26
Speaker
I just talked to this guy in a murdering other dude.
00:26:28
Speaker
That's an unbridled level of power I have.
00:26:31
Speaker
Cool.
00:26:33
Speaker
And she just becomes the spookiest member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants and just fucking like with her.
00:26:40
Speaker
shit.
00:26:41
Speaker
Uh, and I do have in the notes, good for her.
00:26:44
Speaker
Uh, because that's fine.
00:26:47
Speaker
Uh, that's probably for her.
00:26:51
Speaker
Uh, I hope she enjoys it.
00:26:53
Speaker
Uh, chapter 28, uh, Eleanor, uh, she is heading to the third floor to stop stuff.
00:26:59
Speaker
She knows he's up there.
00:27:00
Speaker
She knows that the, uh, someone's going to be heading up there with tad at some point.
00:27:04
Speaker
And she's basically going to like guard the door, uh, and try to try to stop.
00:27:08
Speaker
We get a lot of, um,
00:27:10
Speaker
Internal monologue from her about, like, how did my fucking life end up this way?
00:27:16
Speaker
I kind of loved it.
00:27:17
Speaker
I felt bad for her.
00:27:18
Speaker
Like, it was just it was actually some of the most relatable writing in the whole thing where she was just like, when did my husband become a jackass?
00:27:26
Speaker
It must have been before this, but I never noticed.
00:27:29
Speaker
I never realized it.
00:27:32
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:32
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:33
Speaker
She's like, I used to be independent.
00:27:34
Speaker
I used to have my own thing going and now I'm just in his.
00:27:37
Speaker
It's like I used to have dreams.
00:27:40
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:40
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:41
Speaker
Go for it, girlfriend.
00:27:42
Speaker
I know.
00:27:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:43
Speaker
Do it.
00:27:44
Speaker
She's just so she's just we get a lot of a couple of pages, really, of her like wondering how the fuck did I end up with a cheating, murdering husband?
00:27:54
Speaker
That's weird.
00:27:57
Speaker
She finds the toy room and gets this feeling of evil power in the room.
00:28:03
Speaker
She hears children's voices begging for help from the.
00:28:06
Speaker
from the dolls there.
00:28:08
Speaker
And she's, she's trying to get through there and she starts to feel slower and bogged down until she realizes that she is being turned into wood.
00:28:17
Speaker
And she, it, it describes her clattering to the floor, which I loved.
00:28:21
Speaker
I thought that was great.
00:28:23
Speaker
Like a, like a dining room, you know, chair, you know, a dining, you know, just, just dropping to the ground.
00:28:29
Speaker
Right.
00:28:29
Speaker
Thought that was pretty cool.
00:28:31
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:31
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:31
Speaker
It was like, I was like, Oh, this is, Oh, how is this going to get reversed?
00:28:35
Speaker
Um,
00:28:35
Speaker
Well, yeah, well, you mentioned in the last episode that this this this is just this is just the continuation of how fucking Stephen King this whole thing is.
00:28:49
Speaker
It's very Stephen King like that.
00:28:51
Speaker
That sounds to me like how King would off somebody like turning right to wood, turning them into a piece of wood where they fall over and wobble around.
00:29:00
Speaker
Right.
00:29:00
Speaker
And the only thing you hear people think people hear in the distance is.
00:29:06
Speaker
Bang.
00:29:11
Speaker
Like somebody drop a bowl.
00:29:14
Speaker
Her husband's like, Eleanor, no, she does make that sound sometimes.
00:29:24
Speaker
Chapter 29, Tad in the basement.
00:29:27
Speaker
He is running.
00:29:29
Speaker
Here's more, more haunted house shit.
00:29:30
Speaker
He runs past illusory corpses, coffins with their lids popping off and, and, and dead bodies, skeletons and shit, like all talking to him and threatening him.
00:29:41
Speaker
There's blood on the walls and he knows this is all fake.
00:29:44
Speaker
This is all fake.
00:29:45
Speaker
So he's trying to eyes straight ahead.
00:29:48
Speaker
Get the fuck out of here.
00:29:50
Speaker
He is intercepted by Martine and Knox, but not.
00:29:54
Speaker
But and they're about to drag him away, but not before Temple arrives and gets into a fight with Knox and appears to kill him.
00:30:02
Speaker
I read it.
00:30:04
Speaker
I don't because Knox has the knife now, but I don't.
00:30:08
Speaker
I read it twice.
00:30:09
Speaker
I didn't know.
00:30:10
Speaker
Yeah, no, he throws he kind of like judos, knocks his way.
00:30:14
Speaker
And what happens is knocks, stumbles, and I think he hits his head against the wall.
00:30:19
Speaker
Yeah, something like, yeah, it just wasn't.
00:30:22
Speaker
Yeah, it wasn't.
00:30:23
Speaker
Yeah, it's very abrupt and kind of like anticlimactic, especially based on how people have died in this and how they will continue to die.
00:30:31
Speaker
Right.
00:30:32
Speaker
Especially the next death.
00:30:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:34
Speaker
Speaking of which, Martine fucking melts into a bottle of green goo.
00:30:38
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:40
Speaker
So first, what happens is she like starts to like mutate and like it like turns into this like briefly turns into like this, like her skin starts peeling and her tongue grows out into this demon tongue.
00:30:54
Speaker
And she's like, and then she like starts melting and her skin's like bubbling and she just like falls apart into a pile of green goo.
00:31:05
Speaker
And it's like, it's really grotesque.
00:31:08
Speaker
It is.
00:31:09
Speaker
It's nasty.
00:31:10
Speaker
And it just kind of, and after a guy dying from getting thrown against a wall too hard, it's, it's, it's a lot.
00:31:18
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:19
Speaker
Stauf's face appears in the puddle and like winks at Tad, which is there.
00:31:26
Speaker
So the less said about that, the better.
00:31:28
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:30
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:32
Speaker
We assumed Dutton had been had had died.
00:31:37
Speaker
He was he was he is bleeding out, but he was playing possum.
00:31:40
Speaker
So Knox and Martine would leave the.
00:31:44
Speaker
Uh, the, the hall that he's in and he sneaks away, uh, to his room.
00:31:47
Speaker
He finds his room on the, on, on the second floor.
00:31:51
Speaker
I want to say, uh, and inside he finds a suitcase filled with money.
00:31:55
Speaker
He says that there must be at least a million dollars in that.
00:31:58
Speaker
And he, uh, interprets that as like, this is, this is me getting paid, uh, by, by staff.
Betrayal, Deaths, and Tad's Escape
00:32:04
Speaker
This is my reward.
00:32:05
Speaker
I did good.
00:32:06
Speaker
And the bed is lush and beautiful and he's exhausted and very, very tired.
00:32:12
Speaker
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that he's losing copious amounts of blood.
00:32:15
Speaker
So much blood.
00:32:17
Speaker
So much blood.
00:32:18
Speaker
And he does what we all want to do when we're bleeding out.
00:32:22
Speaker
He crawls into the big, fluffy king sized bed, gets under the covers and sees the frozen face of his long dead brother above him.
00:32:33
Speaker
And that's a that's a scene wrap on
00:32:35
Speaker
And then he just bleeds out.
00:32:38
Speaker
Yeah, just bleeds out, dies in bed.
00:32:41
Speaker
Good for him.
00:32:43
Speaker
Good for all of them.
00:32:43
Speaker
They all.
00:32:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:45
Speaker
So Temple and Tad Temple like gets Tad's trust.
00:32:51
Speaker
uh, uh, right in time to die.
00:32:53
Speaker
Uh, I'm going to skip.
00:32:55
Speaker
He's right in time.
00:32:56
Speaker
It's like, you know, right into just in time.
00:32:59
Speaker
And, and, and he's getting, he's getting Ted's, uh, you know, like we're going to get out of here.
00:33:03
Speaker
That's what I'm here for.
00:33:03
Speaker
I don't want to take you to the guy.
00:33:05
Speaker
And so Tad joins him.
00:33:07
Speaker
And then this like piano wire or something just kind of like, uh,
00:33:12
Speaker
flies out and like strangles him and lifts him like hang.
00:33:17
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:17
Speaker
A garrote basically like it's like a garrote comes out from the ceiling and hangs him and just strangles him to death.
00:33:25
Speaker
Strangles.
00:33:25
Speaker
Cuts his throat.
00:33:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:28
Speaker
It's it's yeah.
00:33:29
Speaker
The end of our show.
00:33:30
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:30
Speaker
He just fucking fucking dies.
00:33:33
Speaker
And you find out it's it's Julia in a hidden compartment above the hallway that they're in.
00:33:40
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:40
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:40
Speaker
And that's just it.
00:33:41
Speaker
And we cut to chapter 30 and we find out immediately that Julia is the one who did that because on orders from stealth, basically.
00:33:52
Speaker
So she retreats and she finds a mirror and sees herself in the mirror.
00:33:58
Speaker
And she's she's giddy with the idea of getting younger.
00:34:01
Speaker
And she starts to.
00:34:04
Speaker
rejuvenate in the mirror.
00:34:06
Speaker
Like she gets really young.
00:34:07
Speaker
She catches the Benjamin button disease and starts getting really young.
00:34:12
Speaker
And then it just, then it just keeps going.
00:34:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:34:15
Speaker
Then she's like 12 and then she's like a kindergartner and then like she becomes a fetus and, and can't see or hear or speak or anything like that.
00:34:26
Speaker
And then pops back up and she's back to herself.
00:34:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:34:31
Speaker
and has this moment of like, okay, all right, I gotta go tell Stealth.
00:34:36
Speaker
I'm gonna tell him specifically where in that process to cut it off.
00:34:41
Speaker
He was just trying things.
00:34:42
Speaker
I understand that.
00:34:43
Speaker
I accept that.
00:34:45
Speaker
So she goes out and finds Tad and now it's her turn to gain his trust.
00:34:50
Speaker
And she does the whole kind of mother hen thing and, and Tad like trusts in her and she grabs him by the hand, starts leading him to Stealth.
00:34:59
Speaker
Chapter 31, Tad's getting suspicious and ultimately escapes Julia.
00:35:06
Speaker
He runs into the toy room where he finds Eleanor under a pile of toys.
00:35:13
Speaker
She is turning into a doll.
00:35:15
Speaker
Her arms and legs are just wooden sticks.
00:35:18
Speaker
Her face is normal.
00:35:20
Speaker
She can talk and she's begging him for help.
00:35:22
Speaker
And he gets the fuck out of there.
00:35:24
Speaker
He's like, I can't do anything.
00:35:27
Speaker
Right.
00:35:28
Speaker
He's correct.
00:35:28
Speaker
He is correct.
00:35:29
Speaker
But there's also like just a child.
00:35:32
Speaker
There is very little internal struggle, though.
00:35:34
Speaker
Like you expect anybody to look and go, what should I do?
00:35:37
Speaker
And like, I'm sorry, I can't.
00:35:39
Speaker
You know, he's just like, oh, I can't do this shit.
00:35:41
Speaker
He just fucking leaves.
00:35:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:44
Speaker
So, yeah, he understands.
00:35:46
Speaker
Good on that kid knowing what's up.
00:35:48
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Like, yeah, hopefully that was what it was.
00:35:53
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And not just like, fuck you, bitch.
00:35:57
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Yeah.
00:35:58
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Yeah, that would not quite the kid we like.
00:36:01
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He is caught by Julia and she forebodingly takes him up the house's final flight of stairs.
00:36:10
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Cut to chapter 32.
00:36:11
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Our anonymous figure who we have off and on again, followed kind of ghostly character through the halls.
00:36:21
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We got a quick chapter with him.
00:36:23
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Watching Eleanor as she changes into a doll completely.
00:36:27
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Yeah.
00:36:29
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And she kind of sees him somehow like she recognizes his.
00:36:34
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Yeah.
00:36:35
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His presence.
00:36:36
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And what we understand what I understand is that this is supposed to be the player character.
00:36:42
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That's that's the impression you get.
00:36:44
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Like, and I'll tell you, this is yeah, this is this is where it becomes clear that that's what is happening.
00:36:50
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This is this is the character that represents who you play in the game.
00:36:53
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And I gotta say, that's a first.
00:36:57
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Yeah.
00:36:57
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And that's the impression you get, you know.
00:37:01
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Yeah.
00:37:03
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So he knows not to knock on wood.
00:37:06
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Right.
00:37:06
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Yes.
00:37:06
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Yes.
00:37:08
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He knows that that would be considered disrespectful, given the circumstances.
00:37:12
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Yeah.
00:37:15
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We get to chapter 33.
00:37:16
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More Stauf internal monologue.
00:37:18
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He's contemplating the gaps.
00:37:19
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If you ever knock a...
00:37:23
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Anyway, good night, everybody.
00:37:24
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This has been a great last episode of Pixel It.
00:37:27
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And I appreciate sometimes I find continuing the bit while you're talking is actually the best way to go about it.
00:37:32
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It's very satisfying.
00:37:33
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Don't don't.
00:37:34
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Yes.
00:37:34
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And right away.
00:37:36
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No, wait.
00:37:36
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No.
00:37:37
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And give it a minute.
00:37:38
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Give it a minute.
00:37:38
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Give it a minute.
00:37:41
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Let it percolate.
00:37:43
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It's all about timing.
00:37:44
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It's all about.
00:37:46
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It's all timing.
00:37:49
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We get it's just more in time.
00:37:53
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I walked right the fuck into that one.
00:37:58
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I was a professional comedian.
00:38:00
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I mean, I was a professional comedian, but yeah, I walked right into that.
00:38:06
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We get more.
00:38:08
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He keeps staff is contemplating all the dead people basically just like kind of kind of giving himself kudos for for everyone being dead.
00:38:19
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Killed all these people.
00:38:20
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Good.
00:38:20
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Good for me.
00:38:21
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I did good.
00:38:21
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I did good.
00:38:23
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I arranged all these deaths.
00:38:25
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He is Charlie Manson.
00:38:26
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He arranged all this without actually getting his own hands dirty.
00:38:29
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Right.
00:38:30
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So, yeah.
00:38:32
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Chapter 34, we cut back to the PC Tad ghost character watching everything unfold.
00:38:41
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And we start getting into...
00:38:44
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alternate histories it's very vague and not very well done um basically the idea is that i had to reread the page a couple pages because i thought i like did the page was there a no no it's it's it's just not very well done where basically the gist is
00:39:04
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is that this character is Tad.
00:39:06
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It's the person that Tad could become an alternate reality Tad, this ghostly alternate reality Tad.
00:39:14
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He's the man that he could grow into and he can intervene somehow and change history so that Tad doesn't get...
00:39:24
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murdered.
00:39:25
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And I think, I think, and maybe I'm giving them too much credit here, but the way I interpreted that was like when you play a game and you die a bunch of times before you get it right.
00:39:37
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Yeah.
00:39:39
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That's how I interpreted it.
00:39:40
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He's basically one of the guys that has been through this before with the player trying to finish this game, try to solve the puzzles.
00:39:50
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Yeah.
00:39:51
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It's like in a in a future in which Tad doesn't he comes from a future in which Tad survives.
00:40:02
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Right.
00:40:02
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But he's also stuck in this weird timey wimey bullshit.
00:40:07
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Right.
00:40:07
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It's it's very vague.
00:40:10
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It's very vague.
00:40:11
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And basically, it's just like.
00:40:15
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I don't know.
00:40:16
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It just feels like it's like.
00:40:19
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not super well thought out of a concept.
00:40:23
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No, no.
00:40:25
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It's if I, if, if, if we're, if we're right about that assumption on like what he's meant to represent that, that could be clever.
00:40:33
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There's something there, but it isn't it isn't executed well at all.
00:40:39
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Yeah.
00:40:42
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Um, yeah.
00:40:43
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So, uh, last chapter, chapter 35, Julia brings Tad to Stauff, um,
00:40:50
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Yeah, this is this is where we're getting like Tad's ghost man, like watching all of this happening.
00:40:56
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Stauf betrays Julia, pukes on her and she dissolves into the puddle of puke.
00:41:02
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Very Mortal Kombat 2.
00:41:05
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Yeah.
00:41:07
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Like it.
00:41:09
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See, as she's sinking, it's literally like you betrayed me.
00:41:12
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It's like, yeah.
00:41:13
Speaker
Like, why is why is everyone always surprised in this moment?
00:41:21
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We do get an interesting moment here where I don't know where this came from, but Tad is looking at her and he refers to her ancient face.
00:41:34
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And I thought for a second that she was doing the age thing again, that she was like becoming a wizard.
00:41:41
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No, it's just that she's in her fifties and therefore she has an ancient face.
00:41:46
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Yeah.
00:41:48
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uh i just i thought that's just looking at her and going yo bitch i mean that's it it's just the fucking mate she was on the mayflower this bitch is so old and it's it's i just thought that i literally in my notes wrote in quotes her ancient face that really threw me um so south uh uh
00:42:11
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has this prehensile tongue that comes out and is trying to grab tad with it and his teeth and mouth get bigger and bigger.
00:42:20
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It's it's it's night bearish, honestly, but also very vague.
00:42:24
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And the house starts to transform and tentacles are coming up.
00:42:29
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Basically, the house starts to look like the last level in Contra and just just everything coming out of nowhere.
00:42:36
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And the older Tad and Tad proper Tad, original formula Tad, older ghost Tad and Eleanor, a doll, a doll Eleanor and all of the dead kids start crying out for help.
00:42:52
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Yeah, they'll start demanding help.
00:42:55
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And somehow this triggers a weird rewind situation where it just it just you go back.
00:43:03
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We go back a little just like about five minutes and suddenly Julia gets off again and all this.
00:43:10
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And in this moment, somehow.
00:43:15
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uh, ghost tab convinces the children, the ghost children to join him in defeating staff.
00:43:25
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Yeah.
00:43:26
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And they, and they all kill staff and he's reduced to like a skeleton.
00:43:31
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And as tad young, tad runs out of the house, the sun comes up.
00:43:37
Speaker
The end.
00:43:38
Speaker
The end.
00:43:39
Speaker
The end.
00:43:39
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So, yeah, all the guests, other guests just fucking die.
00:43:44
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Yeah.
00:43:46
Speaker
Were they actually needed to be there?
00:43:48
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No, probably not.
00:43:49
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He just needed.
00:43:50
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He just needed Tad.
00:43:52
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Tad would have gotten there eventually.
00:43:54
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It's an old town.
00:43:55
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She would have been bullied going in.
00:43:57
Speaker
She would have checked it out.
00:43:59
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So, yes.
00:44:01
Speaker
And also, it's just like, let's take the agency away from the main the character, I guess.
00:44:07
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I guess.
00:44:08
Speaker
By having a future self version of it that doesn't.
00:44:13
Speaker
It's an interesting.
00:44:15
Speaker
There's something there.
00:44:18
Speaker
And it just, there wasn't enough time.
00:44:20
Speaker
Just out of reach.
00:44:21
Speaker
Because this is a 220 page novel.
00:44:25
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:25
Speaker
And for something like this, you get the distinct impression that Prima, the publisher, said very specifically, look, we don't want it to be much more than a couple hundred pages.
00:44:39
Speaker
Paper's expensive here in 1995.
00:44:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:45
Speaker
You get the impression that they didn't they weren't allowed to go as much into it as they were.
00:44:50
Speaker
Right.
00:44:50
Speaker
And Prima was a walkthrough publisher.
00:44:55
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:56
Speaker
I think they still are.
00:44:58
Speaker
I think they still exist.
00:45:00
Speaker
I don't know.
00:45:00
Speaker
I thought so.
00:45:01
Speaker
I mean, that might just be Prima guides.
00:45:06
Speaker
Oh, their website is still active and their websites.
00:45:11
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Yeah, they is.
00:45:14
Speaker
They are present tense on Wikipedia.
00:45:16
Speaker
Look at that.
00:45:17
Speaker
Look at that.
00:45:18
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Their parent company is gamers.
00:45:21
Speaker
Gamers Group.
00:45:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:24
Speaker
I don't know if they still make.
00:45:28
Speaker
Well, maybe they do.
00:45:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:30
Speaker
But this is this is a rare fiction piece from them.
00:45:35
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:36
Speaker
So I don't.
00:45:39
Speaker
I wonder if it's, it's, it's one of two things.
00:45:42
Speaker
Either the authors wanted to get into something very meta, right?
00:45:46
Speaker
Very clever.
00:45:48
Speaker
Uh, uh, and they just didn't have the time or they got chopped down to, to, you know, nothing on, on the details.
Book Adaptation: Creativity and Critique
00:45:56
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Um, or they had an idea and they just went, fuck it.
00:46:00
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I'm on deadline.
00:46:01
Speaker
I I'm done.
00:46:02
Speaker
Here's, here's, yeah, here's, here it is.
00:46:04
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There you go.
00:46:05
Speaker
Thank you very much.
00:46:06
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Yeah.
00:46:07
Speaker
So,
00:46:09
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Having said that,
00:46:12
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I'm going to just kind of restate what I said last week with this one.
00:46:19
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I admire a lot of the adaptational choices made in this book.
00:46:24
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Sure, yeah.
00:46:25
Speaker
There's a lot here that is genuinely creative and genuinely clever in terms of taking it from a video game to a book.
00:46:36
Speaker
If you've played the game or watched the game on a long play or something like that,
00:46:42
Speaker
There's a lot of stuff that's left out.
00:46:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:44
Speaker
And as it should be.
00:46:47
Speaker
Like the fact that the fact.
00:46:48
Speaker
So like if you if you watched a long play, you would notice that the game, like all the guests are already dead and it's just ghosts kind of reenacting their deaths sort of in like you're a ghost going through and trying to fix some ghost bullshit.
00:47:07
Speaker
Right.
00:47:08
Speaker
Whatever.
00:47:09
Speaker
You know, as much as I know about the game, you're like, oh, they're all ghosts people, I guess.
00:47:15
Speaker
And that's a pretty big one, but it makes sense for what they were trying to do here.
00:47:20
Speaker
We
00:47:22
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mentioned the voices they exist uh in this other alternate world and they want to come over here the game ends with you in that world you actually go through into this other dimension uh to solve puzzles in their world to beat them at their own game i guess right so there's a lot that is left out and i think i think in a in for the best properly for the best absolutely um
00:47:52
Speaker
That is not the same as it being good.
00:47:55
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So.
00:47:56
Speaker
Right.
00:47:57
Speaker
It's interesting.
00:47:58
Speaker
Kevin, ultimately, what did you think?
00:48:00
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Yeah.
00:48:02
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:03
Speaker
Most of the characters suck.
00:48:05
Speaker
There's some cool scenes.
00:48:07
Speaker
That's about it.
00:48:09
Speaker
Yeah, some decent horror stuff in there.
00:48:12
Speaker
I was like C plus level of interested B minus and after parts one and two and then after parts three, I was like, it's sort of like that line from the clerk's cartoon where the guy says, well, the pod race was pretty cool.
00:48:36
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that's that's pretty much where I'm at with with this one
00:48:42
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The way a couple of them died was pretty cool.
00:48:45
Speaker
Like that's the way, honestly, that's when they wasn't that cool.
00:48:48
Speaker
It was like, you ever see that scene in scanners?
00:48:51
Speaker
It's basically, you know?
00:48:53
Speaker
Oh yeah.
00:48:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:54
Speaker
That's the thing.
00:48:55
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There, there actually, there are some good horror moments.
00:48:58
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And as you pointed out correctly, if, and honestly, people, if you, if you follow this,
00:49:03
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all three of these episodes, go ahead and find a, uh, all deaths video for seventh guest and, uh, watch them and compare them to what we've described here.
00:49:12
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It, it, as I pointed out in the very first episode, the difference between the genuine, uh,
00:49:20
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They're trying to do in this book versus right.
00:49:22
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Schlocky FMV stuff.
00:49:25
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It's miles apart and probably for the best.
00:49:29
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It's a good it's different.
00:49:30
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This is an adaptation.
00:49:31
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It is adapted.
00:49:33
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Yeah.
00:49:34
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And yeah, totally.
00:49:35
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The the the deaths are much better written than they are in.
00:49:40
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the god damn game yes like i remember watching like what's her name uh it was like it was each death was was uh a lot dumber in the game i'll say that yeah uh so that's oh and by the way i watched the watched several of the deaths in the vr remake of seven yes yes
00:50:02
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And they are even lamer because several of them are just like one guest shot the other guest.
00:50:12
Speaker
Like they just did that a few times.
00:50:14
Speaker
And they're like, oh, there's just a fucking gun that people fought.
00:50:17
Speaker
And they both reach for the gun.
00:50:20
Speaker
The gun, the gun, the gun.
00:50:25
Speaker
It's so bad.
00:50:28
Speaker
Understandable.
00:50:29
Speaker
Understandable.
00:50:31
Speaker
Mary sunshine.
00:50:35
Speaker
No, but I, I'm just in such a weird place with this book because it's not good.
00:50:41
Speaker
I, I, I'm not, I didn't enjoy reading this, but honestly, as far as an adaptation of,
00:50:49
Speaker
Is considered the the lengths to which the authors attempted to create something new out of the source material and not just transcribe it.
00:50:59
Speaker
It might be one of the better books we've read for that purpose.
00:51:03
Speaker
Yeah, it's I mean, OK, so if we're given it like.
00:51:07
Speaker
I would say we give it its report card, right?
00:51:12
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:13
Speaker
And it's it.
00:51:16
Speaker
We're checking the report card in the book with a book as our as our child.
00:51:20
Speaker
We're checking the report card and it's like F F F B minus F F. Right.
00:51:28
Speaker
That's yeah.
00:51:29
Speaker
Honestly.
00:51:29
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Yeah.
00:51:30
Speaker
It's it's we we've been doing this for a while now for years now and
00:51:37
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looking at how something is adapted and we've watched people make the same stupid ass mistakes over and over and over again.
00:51:48
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And this is one of those things.
00:51:51
Speaker
It's like a song.
00:51:51
Speaker
If you cover a song, don't do it exactly the same way the fucking Beatles or whoever did it.
00:51:57
Speaker
Make you have to put your own spin on it.
00:51:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:59
Speaker
And they succeeded in that.
00:52:02
Speaker
while also creating something that isn't very good.
00:52:06
Speaker
So it's fascinating.
00:52:08
Speaker
I think this is genuinely one of the more fascinating books we cover.
00:52:12
Speaker
It's like when Madonna did a cover of American Pie by Don McLean.
00:52:20
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Not good.
00:52:21
Speaker
Not good.
00:52:22
Speaker
Different.
00:52:23
Speaker
Different.
00:52:24
Speaker
Or when the chicks did a cover of Landslide.
00:52:28
Speaker
Oh, I like that cover.
00:52:30
Speaker
I think that's a good cover.
00:52:31
Speaker
It's a fine cover, but it's... I think that's a good cover.
00:52:34
Speaker
But it's, you know, when you're going against... What's your name?
00:52:39
Speaker
Well, Stevie Nicks.
00:52:40
Speaker
Stevie Nicks is... But there's no use in pitting two bad bitches, four bad bitches against each other.
00:52:46
Speaker
Four bad bitches?
00:52:47
Speaker
I think so.
00:52:47
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Well, Stevie Nicks and then the chicks.
00:52:49
Speaker
And then the three of them.
00:52:50
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:52
Speaker
I told my wife years ago...
00:52:57
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on Friday nights, I used to spend, I used to spend my Friday nights playing civilization, getting drunk.
00:53:02
Speaker
Uh, and, uh, I told her, uh,
00:53:04
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I said, if you hear me singing along to really sad songs or something like that, I don't want you to panic.
00:53:10
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I want if you hear me singing along to a really depressing Tom White song, I'm having the time of my life.
00:53:16
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So don't worry about it.
00:53:18
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I said, however, if you hear me in there singing along to landslide, I need you to check on me.
00:53:24
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That's that's where I draw the line.
00:53:27
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That's where it's like that I might actually be going.
00:53:31
Speaker
Have you listened to landslide since you became a parent?
00:53:37
Speaker
No.
00:53:38
Speaker
And now that you're, I'm just, I'm working through that in my head and I, I'm already following you on the, yeah.
00:53:47
Speaker
Go fire up landslide just real quick, you know, after, after the show, um, because I was listening to it the other day and I was like, oh no,
00:53:57
Speaker
And it's, I'm getting older too.
00:54:00
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I'm getting, I'm getting older too.
00:54:02
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And I'm just staring out the middle distance through the, the, the back door of the, of the house with my coffee.
00:54:11
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And, um,
00:54:13
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God damn it, Stevie.
00:54:15
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You got me.
00:54:18
Speaker
What a fucking legend.
00:54:20
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Okay.
00:54:21
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Well, that's another book done and
Conclusion and Summary of the Book Discussion
00:54:24
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dusted.
00:54:24
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That leaves one final question for you, Kevin.
00:54:30
Speaker
What are you playing?
00:54:33
Speaker
What am I playing?
00:54:36
Speaker
Oh, okay.
00:54:37
Speaker
So I played and finished and beat 1000x resist over the past week.
00:54:49
Speaker
God damn that game straight up wrecked me.
00:54:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:54
Speaker
It is... And it's wild.
00:54:59
Speaker
There's two sci-fi games that sci-fi... Well, Mouthwashing is sci-fi horror.
00:55:09
Speaker
Whereas A Thousand Exorcist is like... The setting of it is like sci-fi dystopian thriller.
00:55:16
Speaker
But the writing in it is so good.
00:55:19
Speaker
And it's about...
00:55:22
Speaker
grief and guilt and forgiveness and parenting a whole lot of parenting stuff in there like being a parent and and fucking up and trying to be trying to be better and not and failing um and and then it's it really destroyed me um
00:55:45
Speaker
And here's the thing is like when I first played it, I was like, I was like, this is weird.
00:55:49
Speaker
I'm not sure I'm grokking what this game is actually putting down in like after like the first 30 minutes.
00:55:56
Speaker
Right.
00:55:56
Speaker
So I put it aside and this was like last year.
00:55:59
Speaker
I remember.
00:55:59
Speaker
I remember you started this.
00:56:01
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Yeah.
00:56:01
Speaker
And then I came back to like, fine.
00:56:03
Speaker
All right.
00:56:03
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I'm coming back to it.
00:56:05
Speaker
And then it clicked what the game is.
00:56:10
Speaker
Like, it's one of those where you have no idea what the fuck is going on at the beginning.
00:56:17
Speaker
Or really in the first 30 minutes, you're not entirely sure what am I doing here?
00:56:23
Speaker
Who am I talking to?
00:56:24
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Why am I talking to these people?
00:56:27
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All that.
00:56:28
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And then you get it.
00:56:32
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You're like, oh, okay.
00:56:34
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So we're here, we're doing this now, and this is the story.
00:56:39
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And okay, I'm in the... And it actually does one of those things that I had said a long time ago is that if you're writing far future sci-fi,
00:56:49
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the world should seem very unfamiliar.
00:56:55
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Like it should be a little bit hard to latch on to the world because if it's in the far future, it should be outside of your comfort zone and area of experience.
00:57:07
Speaker
Okay.
00:57:09
Speaker
And it does that to a T in like the first the first few hours.
00:57:12
Speaker
But then you start to settle in when it as the story kind of folds out and you understand how like the elements that are taking place in present day or the scenes you see in present day and all that.
00:57:28
Speaker
It's it's a it's a brilliant game.
00:57:30
Speaker
I thoroughly recommend you check it out.
00:57:35
Speaker
It is.
00:57:36
Speaker
I beat it in like eight hours.
00:57:38
Speaker
I know it said time to beat on the website on the time to complete website was like 11 hours and that completionists are 14 hours.
00:57:52
Speaker
I think part of the thing is, is like, even though it's fully voice acted,
00:57:57
Speaker
I was in a zone of like, well, I'm reading it faster than their voice acting it.
00:58:00
Speaker
I'm the same way.
00:58:02
Speaker
I feel bad for it because I love the work the voiceover artists do.
00:58:05
Speaker
And some of the voice acting is tremendous and I would let it play out.
00:58:09
Speaker
But if it was just like basic conversation stuff, I was like, click, click, click, click.
00:58:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:15
Speaker
Just haul an ass through it.
00:58:16
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:16
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:18
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:19
Speaker
So 1000X Resist, I went back and this is the first time I've done this, but I'll probably do it more often is I went and I tagged it into the bet the my game of the year 2024 Steam collection.
00:58:36
Speaker
Nice.
00:58:36
Speaker
Because it would have been on my list easily.
00:58:40
Speaker
So I'm slapping those things back in there as I go through.
00:58:45
Speaker
I think that's fair.
00:58:46
Speaker
And part of my year.
00:58:47
Speaker
A retroactive award.
00:58:48
Speaker
Retroactive.
00:58:49
Speaker
Because you had a mention for 2023 this year, I believe.
00:58:54
Speaker
Yeah, for a 40K rogue trader.
00:58:57
Speaker
Because...
00:58:58
Speaker
it wasn't realistic.
00:58:59
Speaker
We're not professional game reviewers.
00:59:02
Speaker
It wouldn't have been realistic for me to play enough of that game in December when it came out in time for a list.
00:59:10
Speaker
So, yeah, I think Retroactive's totally valid.
00:59:13
Speaker
Yeah.
00:59:14
Speaker
It's totally valid.
00:59:16
Speaker
What else did I play?
00:59:17
Speaker
Okay.
00:59:19
Speaker
I also beat what's it?
00:59:24
Speaker
Ender Magnolia, which... Oh, okay.
00:59:27
Speaker
Yeah, which I will say I didn't care about the story and the gameplay.
00:59:34
Speaker
We're out.
00:59:35
Speaker
It's welcome.
00:59:36
Speaker
Okay.
00:59:37
Speaker
Pretty much all I'll say about it is like it's a Metroidvania.
00:59:41
Speaker
I beat it.
00:59:41
Speaker
I like the first one better.
00:59:44
Speaker
The second one was fine.
00:59:47
Speaker
give it C's across the board but I don't have anything to say about the story I'm sure it's an interesting story but it didn't grab me in any way possible like I couldn't not get into it but
01:00:02
Speaker
And then there's like, there's an, I beat the game and there's like a completionist entire extra zone.
01:00:08
Speaker
If you collect the things and I'm like, no, thank you.
01:00:12
Speaker
Yeah.
01:00:12
Speaker
Yeah.
01:00:13
Speaker
I rolled credits moving on.
01:00:15
Speaker
Yeah.
01:00:16
Speaker
That's where I'm at.
01:00:17
Speaker
We've talked about this before.
01:00:18
Speaker
That's where I'm at.
01:00:19
Speaker
Like,
01:00:21
Speaker
It has to be a really special game for me to be like, oh, I actually do want to.
01:00:25
Speaker
I mean, I go back to Rogue Trader like I'm back in Rogue Trader and doing the bullshit there because I really love I love the gameplay of Rogue Trader and I love being a rogue trader in the 40K universe.
01:00:38
Speaker
I love the idea of profit factor, just the concept of of your character being so wealthy that you don't actually need to care about your money.
01:00:50
Speaker
You just buy things.
01:00:52
Speaker
That could be a lot of fun.
01:00:53
Speaker
Yeah.
01:00:54
Speaker
It's like the fact that you'd be like, you have to be like this level of like quadrillionaire or whatever.
01:01:01
Speaker
Like I imagine rogue traders are make Elon Musk look like nothing.
01:01:07
Speaker
You know what I mean?
01:01:07
Speaker
Sure.
01:01:08
Speaker
In terms of wealth generated in the 40K universe.
01:01:12
Speaker
It's just it's non-existent.
01:01:14
Speaker
It's just, give it to me.
01:01:16
Speaker
I'm a rogue trader basically.
01:01:18
Speaker
Like, you're a rogue trader.
01:01:20
Speaker
I have a profit factor of 15.
01:01:22
Speaker
So give me your stuff.
01:01:23
Speaker
And I'm good for it.
01:01:26
Speaker
And the merchant's like, yes, you are.
01:01:29
Speaker
Here's all of our inventory.
01:01:30
Speaker
And you as the character are like, my people will take care of this.
01:01:35
Speaker
And yeah, and they will.
01:01:38
Speaker
It's it's they're starting to do that more and more with tabletop games.
01:01:46
Speaker
And God damn it, if that isn't a better way to handle that shit than like individual gold pieces.
01:01:51
Speaker
Now, don't get me wrong.
01:01:52
Speaker
Some people are dungeon crawlers and that's the fun for them.
01:01:55
Speaker
Whatever.
01:01:55
Speaker
That's fine.
01:01:56
Speaker
But.
01:01:58
Speaker
that's just, I think it's just a cleaner way of handling it.
01:02:01
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:01
Speaker
Like you could, you could do a, like a modern day or futuristic setting where your car, your ability to buy things is based on like, it could be like a, a credit card system, right?
01:02:14
Speaker
Whereas you level up, like you, you move up at like, once you get the black card, then you can get anything you want from merchants or something like that.
01:02:21
Speaker
Right.
01:02:22
Speaker
Kind of in a similar way.
01:02:24
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:24
Speaker
It's like a, it's like a, a, a security clearances.
01:02:27
Speaker
Yes, exactly.
01:02:28
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:30
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:31
Speaker
That's a neat little concept.
01:02:35
Speaker
So, yeah, playing Rogue Trader.
01:02:37
Speaker
And today I started Keep Driving.
01:02:42
Speaker
Oh, nice.
01:02:44
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:44
Speaker
And?
01:02:44
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:46
Speaker
I'm not sure yet.
01:02:47
Speaker
It's very, very interesting.
01:02:51
Speaker
But it's one of those where I'm like, I don't know if I am I doing it right?
01:02:59
Speaker
It's just challenging enough and just up to sometimes enough.
01:03:03
Speaker
Yeah, I know what you mean.
01:03:04
Speaker
Yeah, it's like, should I?
01:03:07
Speaker
Like I pitched it I was like I'm like alright well I guess the main quest of the game is to get across the map and get to the concert by the end of the month I assume right But also I picked up a hitchhiker, but this hitchhiker wants to go backwards and be like do I should I?
01:03:26
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, is it worth it to you?
01:03:30
Speaker
I love when you have to stop and like, you're like, oh, fuck, I'm broke.
01:03:33
Speaker
I have to stop for three days and just do an odd job on a farm somewhere.
01:03:37
Speaker
Right.
01:03:38
Speaker
I love that.
01:03:39
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:40
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:40
Speaker
So yeah, so we'll see.
01:03:43
Speaker
I'm playing.
01:03:44
Speaker
I'm hoping that they have an update that's coming out soon, they said, for controller like that, that you can use a controller with it.
01:03:54
Speaker
Oh, that'll be nice.
01:03:55
Speaker
That'll be nice because it's like a game where I'm like,
01:03:59
Speaker
I don't like this feels like a Steam Deck game that's currently not made for Steam Deck because it doesn't really have a controller set up.
01:04:08
Speaker
It's very mouse based.
01:04:10
Speaker
There's like this feels like it should be Steam Decky that I can just sit and play this, you know, while I'm watching TV.
01:04:20
Speaker
So, yeah, that's what I've been playing.
01:04:22
Speaker
Nice.
01:04:23
Speaker
Phil, what have you been playing?
01:04:26
Speaker
Oh, I also started the full form of Just Drive today.
01:04:35
Speaker
It's the first I've played since the demo.
01:04:37
Speaker
And I'm with you in the sense of, for me, having a controller would be very valuable simply because this is a game for me that you want to lean back on.
01:04:48
Speaker
and play.
01:04:49
Speaker
You know, this is a lean back game.
01:04:52
Speaker
Having to click on everything with a mouse is like, is unchill.
01:04:57
Speaker
Right.
01:04:57
Speaker
It's very not chill.
01:04:58
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
01:04:59
Speaker
So, I just got into it.
01:05:04
Speaker
Um...
01:05:06
Speaker
I'm I'm I'm very positive on it so far.
01:05:09
Speaker
Uh, it's hitting me in the same way the demo did.
01:05:12
Speaker
There's something so blissfully nostalgic about it.
01:05:17
Speaker
Uh, there's this, you know, for anyone who hasn't played this game, but doesn't know what we're talking about.
01:05:22
Speaker
You, you play, uh, a teenager, basically.
01:05:26
Speaker
I think it's before they go to college.
01:05:28
Speaker
It's like after they graduate from high school or something like that.
01:05:30
Speaker
Yeah.
01:05:31
Speaker
And you're just going on this long road trip and, uh,
01:05:35
Speaker
There are how you get around things and there's there's puzzles and it's like it's not match three exactly, but it's that kind of thing where you run into potholes.
01:05:45
Speaker
And so you have to you have certain abilities you can learn from just experience or from people you pick up along the way.
01:05:53
Speaker
Right.
01:05:53
Speaker
Very clever.
01:05:55
Speaker
And it's very I forget who was somebody in our chat.
01:06:00
Speaker
was talking about it and how fascinating it was because it couldn't have been any less like the games these developers have worked on before.
01:06:10
Speaker
Yeah.
01:06:11
Speaker
And I was curious and I looked at their right.
01:06:14
Speaker
They've done some weird ass shit before this.
01:06:18
Speaker
And this game is just this is a mellow indie rock.
01:06:23
Speaker
Yeah, it's got a great soundtrack and you can.
01:06:26
Speaker
It's amazing because one of the one of the things I liked was that you can go you can go into your disk, your your disks, right?
01:06:33
Speaker
And you can set up the playlist how you want it.
01:06:36
Speaker
I love that.
01:06:37
Speaker
I love that.
01:06:38
Speaker
And it's it's they've thought of everything that you would think of if you were going on a road trip.
01:06:44
Speaker
Yeah.
01:06:44
Speaker
And I really appreciate it.
01:06:47
Speaker
I haven't played much of it, but but it just it just gives me lovable feel goods.
01:06:55
Speaker
I have but more in more depth in the past week, I finished tactical breach wizards.
01:07:04
Speaker
Okay.
01:07:05
Speaker
Really enjoyed that.
01:07:08
Speaker
That's just I mean, it's a that's one of those great games where the strategy elements of it, the XCOM style, calm and everything like that.
01:07:20
Speaker
That's a lot of fun.
01:07:21
Speaker
Don't get me wrong.
01:07:22
Speaker
But I was there for the world they created.
01:07:25
Speaker
Yeah, it's a fun little world.
01:07:27
Speaker
It's a fun world.
01:07:28
Speaker
It's very smart.
01:07:29
Speaker
It's sarcastic.
01:07:30
Speaker
It's silly.
01:07:31
Speaker
And it's like where magic exists, but it's still the future in a weird way.
01:07:37
Speaker
And so you've got you've got, you know, your necromancer who is like a med school dropout.
01:07:43
Speaker
Yeah.
01:07:44
Speaker
And this what are they called?
01:07:46
Speaker
Necromedic.
01:07:47
Speaker
Necromedic.
01:07:49
Speaker
One of the first characters you play isn't a Navy SEAL.
01:07:51
Speaker
He's an ABC-er.
01:07:53
Speaker
And I love it.
01:07:54
Speaker
He's like a Merlin's beard type with a goddamn rifle.
01:07:57
Speaker
And this is how I know that I love the world.
01:08:02
Speaker
It made me want to set up a tabletop campaign similar to this.
01:08:07
Speaker
Yes.
01:08:08
Speaker
Yes.
01:08:09
Speaker
Like, like for, for you and me and some friends to like play in this world a little bit.
01:08:13
Speaker
Yeah.
01:08:13
Speaker
My favorite recurring boss was, um, was a traffic cop.
01:08:18
Speaker
Yes.
01:08:18
Speaker
I loved him.
01:08:20
Speaker
Oh my God.
01:08:22
Speaker
What a fun ability.
01:08:24
Speaker
Cause they're, they all have, it's like, it's like X-Men.
01:08:26
Speaker
They all have like powers.
01:08:27
Speaker
Like, yeah.
01:08:28
Speaker
So basically like if somebody becomes a magician or a wizard, uh, the, their power is kind of like bespoke to them sort of.
01:08:36
Speaker
Right.
01:08:37
Speaker
Right.
01:08:37
Speaker
Yeah.
01:08:37
Speaker
In a way.
01:08:38
Speaker
Nobody else really does it.
01:08:39
Speaker
It's yeah.
01:08:41
Speaker
And yeah, so this guy, traffic cop, he summons spectral cars.
01:08:45
Speaker
Yeah.
01:08:47
Speaker
It's just like once every turn, he just sends this line of ghostly cars down and you can get knocked over by one of your one of your characters absolutely hates this guy.
01:08:58
Speaker
And before you fight him, you're talking shit about him in the hallway and he calls out to be like, you know, I can hear you.
01:09:06
Speaker
I love that.
01:09:09
Speaker
I thought, yeah, that stuff like that was really clever and fun.
01:09:12
Speaker
It's a fun game.
01:09:15
Speaker
It was really fun.
01:09:16
Speaker
Having said that, I there's there are like little extra.
01:09:21
Speaker
bonus levels that are like anxiety dreams and stuff, which I got a real kick out of.
01:09:25
Speaker
But I haven't finished those yet.
01:09:26
Speaker
I don't I'm going to have to come back to them.
01:09:29
Speaker
But I got credits on that one.
01:09:30
Speaker
And that was it.
01:09:31
Speaker
I'm really proud of myself.
01:09:32
Speaker
I'm really hauling ass on my backlog lately.
01:09:36
Speaker
That's awesome.
01:09:37
Speaker
That's a good feeling.
01:09:39
Speaker
Speaking of backlogs, I also played Civilization Seven.
01:09:44
Speaker
Oh, how was it?
01:09:46
Speaker
How is it?
01:09:46
Speaker
So I know it's early days and it's usually Civ.
01:09:50
Speaker
Every Civ release in early days is rough-ish.
01:09:56
Speaker
Well, it's good.
01:09:57
Speaker
It's good.
01:09:58
Speaker
I think it's a good start.
01:10:01
Speaker
I really some of the changes I love.
01:10:04
Speaker
I love the era thing because for anyone who doesn't know, basically normally in Civ, you pick your civilization, the French, the English, the chair, whatever.
01:10:16
Speaker
And you just play that from the age of antiquity to future.
01:10:21
Speaker
In this, there are three distinct ages, the ages of antiquity, the exploration age and the modern age.
01:10:28
Speaker
And every time.
01:10:29
Speaker
And then you have this certain amount of time in each one of them.
01:10:32
Speaker
And every time it moves on to when you first start out, you have all these ancient civilizations to choose from.
01:10:39
Speaker
You've got things like the Greeks and the Romans, but then there are like the Mississippians and stuff like fucking cool.
01:10:45
Speaker
Like that's so cool.
01:10:46
Speaker
They mound builders and that sort of thing.
01:10:49
Speaker
Really, really neat.
01:10:51
Speaker
When you get into the exploration age, you have a list of kind of middle age, Renaissance era civilizations to choose from.
01:11:02
Speaker
And based on what you were doing before and.
01:11:07
Speaker
You know what you're aiming to do.
01:11:09
Speaker
Some might be better than others.
01:11:10
Speaker
Some might be more natural than others.
01:11:11
Speaker
You might get bonuses for choosing one over another one.
01:11:15
Speaker
And so my Mississippian culture became Norman in the age of exploration, which I got a real kick out of.
01:11:22
Speaker
Yeah.
01:11:22
Speaker
Really interesting.
01:11:23
Speaker
And you take a lot of those gifts that you had in the age of antiquity and bring them into the exploration age.
01:11:30
Speaker
And then.
01:11:32
Speaker
When you get into the modern age, you pick modern civilizations.
01:11:35
Speaker
And that's when I became Russia.
01:11:36
Speaker
I was playing.
01:11:37
Speaker
I was playing Catherine the Great.
01:11:39
Speaker
And that's another thing you pick a leader and you pick your civilization.
01:11:44
Speaker
They are not connected.
01:11:45
Speaker
Sure.
01:11:46
Speaker
As they were before.
01:11:48
Speaker
I like these changes because they give you.
01:11:53
Speaker
way more customization to what you're trying to create here.
01:11:56
Speaker
You can try and follow it as close as possible.
01:11:58
Speaker
Today, I finished a game where I tried really hard.
01:12:01
Speaker
I started as, uh, no, I was, I was, yeah, I started as Mississippian and, uh,
01:12:08
Speaker
Then I became Hawaiian in the age of exploration, and then I became American in the modern age.
01:12:15
Speaker
And that was a lot of fun to naturally go through that.
01:12:18
Speaker
And I was playing as Benjamin Franklin.
01:12:21
Speaker
Interesting.
01:12:22
Speaker
It was fun.
01:12:22
Speaker
It's a lot of or you can just fucking go ham with it.
01:12:26
Speaker
It's it's which is what civilization has always been about.
01:12:29
Speaker
Right.
01:12:31
Speaker
I've seen a lot of criticisms.
01:12:32
Speaker
A lot of the people are criticizing it for its simplicity.
01:12:37
Speaker
And there are two parts to that.
01:12:39
Speaker
On one hand, yeah, there are a couple of.
01:12:44
Speaker
What's the expression?
01:12:48
Speaker
quality of life changes that they've made that have simplified some things.
01:12:52
Speaker
They've taken out builders, roads naturally get built, which is something I complimented the foundation game for, and I enjoy it here.
01:13:01
Speaker
Right.
01:13:03
Speaker
I mean, I think that's a good thing.
01:13:05
Speaker
I mean, I think that's a good thing.
01:13:06
Speaker
I mean, I think that's a good thing.
01:13:09
Speaker
I mean, I think that's a good thing.
01:13:11
Speaker
I mean, I think that's a good thing.
01:13:12
Speaker
I mean, I think that's a good thing.
01:13:15
Speaker
I mean, I think that's a good thing.
01:13:16
Speaker
I mean, I think that's a good thing.
01:13:26
Speaker
yeah it was always pretty light in terms of the 4x games yeah yeah it was always pretty toward you know towards the light end of the spectrum um so and and that's why it's always attracted people who maybe otherwise wouldn't play the game um the other part of its simplicity is that uh as you pointed out correctly it just came out and and so sure there's a lot
01:13:53
Speaker
they're going to do with this as as they always do they always have it actually they actually launched as an early access game right yeah uh well no no they they i think they is it hold on i have to check now that you put that in my head i don't think it was oh no it's it's it's real launched okay yeah they just they just i think you got like bonuses you've got you could play it early if you pre-ordered with that kind of gotcha um but uh
01:14:19
Speaker
They're planning on adding more stuff and beefing it up as you go.
01:14:24
Speaker
And I think people always forget, and it's an easy thing to forget, to be fair.
01:14:28
Speaker
If you just got done playing Civ VI and you had all the DLC and all the changes and had forgotten that it didn't originally come with like Congress and stuff like that, like all those extra bunches, then it's really easy to look at this and go, this is kind of bare bones.
01:14:47
Speaker
Right.
01:14:47
Speaker
It's not.
01:14:50
Speaker
It's it's I think it's pretty good.
01:14:53
Speaker
I think they've done a lot to make the replayability even more enticing.
01:15:00
Speaker
You can you you advance leaders as you play them more frequently and get bonuses based on how frequently you play them and can work that into your game.
01:15:10
Speaker
Yeah, it's they've made a lot of choices here, and I think that's pretty cool because I don't just want the same goddamn game with a coat of paint.
01:15:20
Speaker
I still have six.
01:15:21
Speaker
I still have six.
01:15:22
Speaker
Right.
01:15:22
Speaker
I have four.
01:15:24
Speaker
I can go back and play those games.
01:15:25
Speaker
Nothing's stopping me.
01:15:27
Speaker
This is just this is just a different version of the game.
01:15:32
Speaker
If there's one thing that actually totally stuck in my craw,
01:15:37
Speaker
It is they the day one DLC is atrocious.
01:15:42
Speaker
It's atrocious.
01:15:43
Speaker
They have Great Britain behind a paywall.
01:15:47
Speaker
Really?
01:15:48
Speaker
It is.
01:15:48
Speaker
It is.
01:15:48
Speaker
It is DLC you have to purchase.
01:15:50
Speaker
That is gross.
01:15:52
Speaker
That is foul.
01:15:53
Speaker
It is foul.
01:15:55
Speaker
One of the most popular sibs to play as.
01:15:58
Speaker
And it's like you have to you have to buy like the fifteen thirty dollar whatever package to to get to play them.
01:16:05
Speaker
Fuck you.
01:16:06
Speaker
You know, it's that's it's it's bad enough that I would have had to preorder it to get to play.
01:16:12
Speaker
I think I forget who it is.
01:16:13
Speaker
It's like the creek or something I love.
01:16:15
Speaker
I love how Siv does Native American cultures.
01:16:18
Speaker
They're always so much fun to play.
01:16:19
Speaker
Right.
01:16:20
Speaker
And it's bad enough that that kind of thing happened.
01:16:21
Speaker
But like one of the most popular Sivs
01:16:27
Speaker
putting it behind it's it's gross it's just gross and that by itself is enough to put a lot of people off their lunch and fair enough yeah and that's I assume that's because 2k right as the publisher
01:16:44
Speaker
Yeah, too good.
01:16:45
Speaker
Okay.
01:16:46
Speaker
Yeah.
01:16:47
Speaker
That's their choice, I'm sure.
01:16:49
Speaker
The unexpected thing that I don't appreciate about the game is that they put in all these new leaders and it's fantastic to see all the new leaders.
01:17:02
Speaker
I did not, however, expect to have to declare war on Harriet Tubman.
01:17:06
Speaker
And
01:17:09
Speaker
I don't appreciate being put in that position for access.
01:17:15
Speaker
But she was getting in on my shit like she was fucking like attacking my scouts and all that.
01:17:21
Speaker
I was like, I have to I have to fight Harriet Tubman.
01:17:25
Speaker
It's wild.
01:17:26
Speaker
It was bad enough when you were getting nuked by Gandhi.
01:17:29
Speaker
Yeah, exactly.
01:17:30
Speaker
It's bad enough.
01:17:31
Speaker
Harriet Tubman.
01:17:32
Speaker
Come on.
01:17:33
Speaker
It's not fair.
01:17:34
Speaker
It would be one thing if it was John Brown, because like that tracks.
01:17:38
Speaker
If they could do, oh my God, that would be a, oh, that would be DLC I'd pay for.
01:17:43
Speaker
That would, I would want to play John Brown.
01:17:44
Speaker
That'd be sick.
01:17:46
Speaker
His body ain't moldering in the grave anymore.
01:17:48
Speaker
No, sir.
01:17:50
Speaker
That's it.
01:17:50
Speaker
That's what I'm playing.
01:17:51
Speaker
That's me.
01:17:53
Speaker
Awesome.
01:17:53
Speaker
All right.
01:17:54
Speaker
So that'll do it for tonight's episode.
01:17:56
Speaker
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01:18:16
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01:18:17
Speaker
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01:18:21
Speaker
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01:18:22
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