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Something Electric Happens
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In this episode the brothers Woodward continue to explore the outer reaches of their youthful recordings and past musical endeavours. Here’s a poem about it:
Indie pop muscles are flexed
A mystery song is uncovered
We shake our own hands and step into the wreck
Meditating the nature of brothers.
Steve attempts to erase a song
Nostalgia and posterity
Giles gets the title wrong
Retro podcast ecstasy.
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Podcast artwork by Giles Woodward
Edited by Steve Woodward at PodcastingEditor.com
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Transcript
Nostalgic Reflections and Creativity
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I quit my job blowing leaves, telephone bills up my sleeves, choking like a one man dust ball, freedom rock slime ball talking in code. We went down, lit up the shack, grabbed me a beer out of the sack. Everybody bent over twice, painting the walls, throwing some dice, leaping up into the air, getting juiced up beyond belief. And they were singing like this.
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um
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um It's still going. um It's still going. that
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My mind is blown. What was going on there? I did a sort of dub remix of JD Stomp. Sort of dub remix. That was beautiful. Thank you. Oh, please. I'm glad you appreciate it. I'm going to try and work up some remixes of it, which is weird because it's a mixed four track tape. Yeah. I liked it. Did you like the kind of volcano explosion on that snare beat? Yeah. I liked it all. I mean, my mind is a bit blown.
00:01:43
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I'm still processing in the last episode. Yes. You know, that really... That was crazy. All that creativity and trimmings. All those trimmings. and jail Dale, the legend. Dale Davis, the legend. Bass player to the stars. Talking to you. Apologies if you are a new listener to the podcast.
Podcast Introduction and Music Sharing
00:02:07
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Welcome to This Are Johnny Domino, a hopefully entertaining podcast with myself and my brother Giles. Hello. Listen to songs that we wrote and recorded about 30 years ago. And we've talked about the memories that come up from them and
00:02:24
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Listen to them with our aged ears and appraise them. Yeah. That's how it all started. That's how it all started. Deciding to kind of listen back to some old stuff. But as I think we're going to get into today, it's not just about old stuff. No. You know, we're looking ahead as well, aren't we, Steve? Yes, we are. Yes, we are. But yeah, it's just nice to kind of talk about our music and not just our music, how it links to other music. And it's not meant to be kind of self-congratulatory or us kind of going, look at us, we're amazing.
00:03:06
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but we're just sharing stuff and we would like other people to share stuff on this podcast too. Absolutely. you know If you're a listener and you're the sort of person who makes music or has made music, get involved, send us some stuff. There are engagement opportunities, which we'll talk about later, but you can just send us some stuff, send us any stuff. Yeah, particularly if you recorded on a four track or on a bedroom tape recorder in your youth and you would like the world to hear your pre or post pubescent genius blasting across the internet. And we would like to listen to it, comment on it, criticize it. And if you send it in and we like it, we will give you a t-shirt and you become a member of
00:03:55
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the eternal halls of the four track gods.
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There you go. So that's, that's a lot of housekeeping to get through. Yeah. To be fair, Steve, I'd quite like to hear it. Like new stuff that people have recorded too. So, yeah you know, it sends any old shit, basically. yeah We'll talk about it. Right. The first song that we're going to listen to today, we were flagging it up. Was it last episode or the one before? I can't remember. Well, we ah had a conversation with my friend, Jock. Was that last episode? That was the one before when we talked about a song called Where To Go From Here.
Exploring the Band Peru
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Yes. We were like hankering after hearing some of Jock's band. We wanted to hear Peru, right? He is a drummer, primarily. But in Peru, he's he's like a songwriter as well.
00:04:44
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Yeah, vocalist, guitarist. Yeah. And Jock, just so you know, is the nickname that he was given at school. He is Scottish, but it's not a term of abuse. That was the name that he went by. His real name is Brian. He was also known as the Archdeacon of Pop. And the Johnny Domino story basically starts because of Brian, because he was playing in a band called Peru. and he had a single that he was recording and he wanted to record it on a four track and I was the only person he knew who could work a four track so we borrowed it and recorded the first Johnny Domino songs on it whilst recording the Peru songs.
00:05:26
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Peru went through a number of lineups. And eventually, and certainly over the later years, it was a recording project where Jock would come around the house, and we'd work up a song together. And he would play some guitar and sing. And I would basically play whatever the song needed to finish it off. And this is one of them. It also features as a guest vocalist, my brother Giles.
00:06:00
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I'll let you into my life, don't think I could fuck up more. I used to follow you all around town, I can't believe you're ever last. Now what do we do next, the problem of the cum of it? The body seems so far away, ain't you close enough?
00:06:34
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You watched all the MTV shows, the letters to their words But you suffered the crazy schemes, that you could never further mine I had to carry you home some nights when you were my drunk I couldn't get much sense from you then, but I'm still struck
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And it's not what I've had in my, it's not what I've had in my But obsession's not the same, it's not the same, it's not the sexual sex You can't do it all the time
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Every day that I asked And all the ways of asking You weren't so easy now, it's fine And then you discovered you in safe luck and you could change
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It's not what I had in my life. It's not what I had in my life. The love versions run the same. The versions run the same. Subsectional sex. You can't do it all the time.
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Untangle it.
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I'm outside the world, yes
00:09:40
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There's a couple of lyrics in that song that really make me think of Jock. There's the one about you crawl further up your own ass with every day that pass and novel ways of axing you aren't so easy now to find. That that line just gets me every time. I love that because that just sounds like him talking. novel ways of acting. Yeah, yeah. I really love that song. I know you think that. I heard it again recently. I haven't listened to it for ages. And it really hit me. And a lot of the Peru stuff actually, I've been listening to it and I really like it. And you know, I didn't totally love it at the time. I was a bit like, oh, this is a bit too indie schminny for me. I'm not into this, you know.
00:10:29
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ah you know I liked it because it was jock, but I was a bit like, oh that's just that's not what I'm into. But but I loved it. I'll be honest, I was the person recording them and at the start. I wasn't really into it that much myself. yeah I think I probably saw it as a way to practice recording things on the fourth track yeah and then I got really into it, especially as it went on and I got more involved with yeah building the songs up. And yeah, i I agree. I've got really happy memories recording those songs. That one was just jock on acoustic guitar and vocals, me on bass and electric guitar, and you singing back up. But I need to give a shout out to Chris.
00:11:11
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because he played bass in Peru originally, and I was definitely channeling him with that sort of bass line that I came up with there. Hi, Chris. Hi, Chris. Hi, Chris. I think a lot of the Peru stuff, really nice, open hearted kind of songs, you know, I really enjoyed that one. ah It just has the real sense, the lyrics of like that feeling of being tangled up in a relationship with somebody and it being confusing and not entirely good. And I don't know, I just really think he got it in those lyrics. I really like it. And ah he's right, you can't do it all the time. That's not a healthy relationship at all. As I say, I've got really great memories um of recording Suffolk Jock. I'm looking at their bandcamp page, and apparently they're playing in Miami.
00:12:00
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on Saturday at the Hard Rock Stadium. and And then they're playing in France in July at Le Molotov. Is that a digital band called Peru? I don't know. But, Jock, if you're listening, I'm down for playing um in Miami. I'll come and do some backing vocals. Or Marseille. Yeah, i can you know I can rock up and do some stuff. so ah Any time you want us, man. Do get in touch, my friend. Yeah, I'm happy to come and do World of Jason backing vocals next time you play. I'm there. So that was Peru. It's not a Johnny Domino song, but it's all kind of intertwined. Is Johnny Domino adjacent? Absolutely, very much adjacent. Yes, so the world of adjacent. Now, in preparation for recording this episode of the podcast, I did say to you, Giles, that I had a surprise song that was related to one of the songs that we had slated to talk about. I know, I'm a bit nervous. I'm not sure what you've what you're going to play.
Rediscovering Old Songs and Their Impact
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I was listening to some of our old recordings and there were a couple of songs that I'd thought, well, I'm never going to talk about that. And I thought, I'll give it a quick listen, one of them in particular. And they see this is one of those things that I don't want it to sound arrogant, but I had it in my head for the rest of the day. The melody that you came up with for this song, it's very short. And like you say we were not really into the indie pop type thing but occasionally we had a go and this song is probably about as close as we got to it when we it was just me and you recording songs as johnny.no okay well i have no idea what this song is it's a surprise song so it's going to be a genuine reaction when you play it
00:14:06
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It's not for me I don't want that stuff again It either never really happens or it drags on Too tangled up not to use a knife But just hold on a minute Just hold on a minute Here comes my brand new complication
00:14:49
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My head could blow up if you don't stop going up This is just what I don't need No time to kill and a big enough folder
00:15:21
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Well that's a song that I'd completely forgotten about. Yeah, I mean it's only short, it's about a minute and a half long. But yeah, I've completely forgotten about that. I've not heard that for since we recorded it. Probably not. No. Yeah. That was from summer 1994. Wow. Like I say, I was never going to talk about it, but I heard it youre the other day by chance. I thought, well, that's nice. And it's also about being tangled up in a relationship. It is kind of links. Yeah, it is. It's like we're going through the same sort of things, I suppose, at that age, you know. yeah
00:15:59
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I don't really remember anything about writing it or anything. And, and you know, it's, it's kind of ironic from what I was just saying. Like I was a bit sort of dismissive of all the Peru stuff and it all being a bit indie shmandy. And that was like a non-more shmandy, is it really? Yeah. Big open G chords and things like that. Yeah. Yeah. and I did quite like it. It's all right. yeah it is i like What I liked about it most was ah it was a big old Steve there in the background singing his BVs. My BVs, yeah. I was really not feeling singing at that point. That didn't happen very often, did it? You were never that keen on doing the singing. No, you know no, no. But there i was and I was. I had a go. I mean, it was a few years before I started singing stupidly high and loud.
00:16:47
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And if you can kind of imagine those backing vocals being an octave higher, they probably would sound better, but I quite like them as well. but Again, it's so long ago. I haven't got a huge memory of writing or recording that. um But yeah, I liked it. My favorite vocals you ever did was probably Hot Sex Momma. Well, you know, when you start from that high point, you you hit the peak de too early.
00:17:26
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Yeah, oh the memories. It's good to listen to that one again. Yeah. Lovely. What are we doing now? This is a song by the Johnny Domino Band Formation. um And this is from an album called Players. It was our second album that we recorded and is probably, it's probably the best thing we did because it's quite short. You know, if it's, nobody would have me, it was edited and it was kind of like, okay, nine songs, yeah very little chaff on it.
00:18:00
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I like our prog stuff a bit more, though. Yeah, I think that doesn't age quite so well as we're going to talk in a bit. um But yeah, this is a song from the album. It's a song called This One's For The Kid. Yeah. Can you remember why it's called that? Yeah, I do remember why it's called that, right? ah Because the lyrics, the first section, lyrics are kind of about posterity, asking whether like doing stuff for posterity is it really worth the effort? It's kind of been a bit ironic about it, you know, there's a lyric in it that's
00:18:34
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dig us up and shake our hands it's like you know if we connect then just dig us up and shake our hands because we finally got through it's like you know what's the point The ironic thing is ah no one did dig us up and shake our hands, so we dug ourselves up but and are shaking our own hands. It's the sound of two hands shaking. so that was all right yeah i mean you know this Give it time, Steve. It's it's ah it's only a few years have gone by. it's like not yeah i mean We're talking about you know posterity. right you know Things come through
00:19:08
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in in time. you know yeah This song is 25 years old this song. yeah i don't put you this Things could be ah we could be looking way off into the future here. It starts off the song as one thing and then it goes into something else.
00:20:02
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For all of my mistakes So have me down a uniform It's ugly but it fits As the planet spins around I don't know what we've done They can't say we didn't try
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So if you find this in the future And it means something to you Then dig us up and shake our hands Because we finally got through So if you find this in the future And it means something to you up and shake our hands Because we finally got through
00:21:19
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Thanks for all the good times You really helped us through Your faces and your minds were blank But you were never cruel Easy times are a plan They can't take that away Summer days in
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So if you find
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It means something to you Then dig us up No, it's shake our hands Because we finally got through So if you find this in the future And it means something to you Then dig us up And shake our hands Because we finally got through
00:22:26
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Finally got through the policeman Finally got through the policeman Finally got through the policeman Finally got through the policeman
00:24:46
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Powerful. Powerful. Powerful. Yeah. A song of two halves. I was modelling it on Billy Joel's scenes from an Italian restaurant. Yeah, I got that. Big time. Right. A couple of things. Can you remember there was a third part to it? ah when i When I wrote that music, there was a third part to it. yeah and i And I demoed it, and it's shocking. okay So it just stopped after the second bit. I think we always had an idea that term if we ever made a video for it, there'll be dancing girls coming on but when the beat changes. That's not very 2024, is it? Could be postmodern. Anyway, I think that first bit, when I was listening to it then, ah what it made me think of then was like Monty Python.
00:25:34
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actually yeah i don't know why it might be something about jim's delivery or maybe bonzo dog doodle man like a nail in this thing yeah definitely a bit yeah i think i wrote the lyrics for the first bit and then jim wrote the second bit but i quite like the way that the two bits go together i like the juxtaposition thing It's all about like you know the pointlessness of doing stuff, thinking about the future. Thinking about the future, you know what what thinking about other people's reaction to stuff, I suppose. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It made me think of, there's an episode of Doctor Who, right? Bear with me. Right. An episode of Doctor Who, it's not a really old episode, but it's where he goes back to fang off. If he visits fang off.
00:26:22
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the famous painter. Yeah, thanks. Thanks. We need further for the slow ones. Hang on. Obviously, he didn't have any success in his life, right? He's like completely he didn't sell any paintings famously, right? Yeah. And he lived rather a rather tragic life and end up dying under tragic circumstances. But he was this tortured genius who just churned out all of this stuff. Obviously, Doctor Who goes to see him. And I don't know. Obviously, Doctor Who goes to see him. I can't remember what happens, right? But Doctor Who and his assistant take him to the future. I think they take him to, I don't know which gallery it is, but it's a gallery somewhere. Might be in France, I don't know. Anyway, cut that bit out. It's a great story, by the way. They take him to the gallery and Van Gogh is like amazed to see everybody
00:27:15
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loving all his artwork, right? And it's like, everyone's going, oh, thank God, he's incredible. And he started standing there, tears in his eyes, you know, he finally got through. But what's the point really, because he's like, you know, in reality, it's not like Doctor Who, he didn't, he doesn't know that he finally got through, even though his work has affected like the future massively. In the Hoovian version of events, do some nerds come up and start wanging on to Doctor Who about messing up the timeline? And is that why he cuts his ear off? No, because that would be a better story. Just like too much shit being spoken about the timeline. It's like, oh, man, I've had enough. That's it. I'm out. That would be better. Ear off. Yeah. But yeah, then Jim's lyrics, the bit about stepping into the rack,
00:28:08
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Yeah. I like that because it's more positive. It's kind of saying, you know, making the best of a bad situation and just doing it and just doing it. Right. The race is over as if that matters. Yeah. As if that matters. It doesn't matter. Right. It doesn't matter people's reaction. It doesn't matter whether you win or not. You just got to keep doing it. That's good. I like that. Is that going a bit too deep again? No, I like it. That's all the sort of stuff that we have to do on this podcast. We've got to like overanalyze stuff. Yeah. I can't remember if we ever played that song live. We were talking about this at the weekend, weren't we? yeah I can't remember us ever playing it live. we It would have been good with a drummer though, wouldn't it? It would have been good when we finally got a drummer. A real drummer. The Jeff Bot 3000, he was an actual person. It would have been really nice, I think, to play that one, but maybe maybe we didn't have the required ambition to play and try and attempt that one. I don't know.
00:29:04
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I don't know, maybe it was just maybe too many people liked it. Yeah, that's the problem, isn't it? That seems to be the way that we do things. That's the way we do it. Yeah, I remember when we were recording that, I don't think we were the type to high five each other, but we were metaphorically high fiving each other. I don't know, I think we actually did. I remember listening back to that after we afterward wed recorded it, and it was like a real high point. like We were like, oh, that's really, you know, it was sounded really good when we put all the effects on the vocals and stuff. and all the weird little sounds and and it was great. I'd forgotten how many keyboard parts there were at the end. Yeah. Just like a sit just say hi to Mark. Hi Mark. Hi Mark. Well I just sent him a message just to see if he could have any memories of us playing that song live.
00:29:51
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Yeah, maybe maybe you can get back to us. Yeah, but um I have no memory of playing that song live ever, well which is a shame. yeah but Maybe we can do it next time we play live. Maybe we could rock it in Miami at the Hard Rock Stadium ah with Peru this Saturday. i would be jo we Jock, we're waiting for your call. Let's hit it.
Day Fever Event Recap
00:30:16
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It's time for me to have a bit of a rant, I think. I went to Day Fever. listeners Listeners may not be aware of what Day Fever is, but I am i attended an event at Rock City a couple of Saturdays ago oh yeah um called Day Fever. And it's a phenomenon.
00:30:36
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I was not really that into going, but I was made aware that it would be in my interest to attend it. And I walked in a bit late. It's an afternoon thing. So it started at like three o'clock. So I was a bit delayed and I met the people who I was going with inside there because I was late because I'd been building some really astounding garden storage in my brothers back garden. and Oh, yes, it's very much appreciated. Yeah. And went into Rock City in Nottingham. But it was not the Rock City that I knew and remembered. It was a strange version of Rock City, which had been transformed into a ah very, very, very busy 1990s butlins. It was very interesting. Everyone was between the ages of 30 and 60.
00:31:26
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The majority are female, persuasion. ah And I'm going to probably get slated for saying this. You might have to edit this out. But I am a very big fan of middle-aged women. You know, some of my favorite people are middle-aged women. But this was a bit overload, to be honest, right? right It was absolutely rum. The place was rummed. And I went into the main bit of Rock City, as you can imagine. It's like, you know, as busy as I've ever seen it for like all the gigs I've been to, you know, it's busy, busy as like any sellout gig, really. And on the stage was Vicky McClure. Vicky McClure. He was an actress from Nottingham.
00:32:10
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And she was in a tracksuit and she was hyping up the crowd and then there was DJ and there's like people from the audience getting up on stage and dancing and it was like 70s and 80s classics like ABBA, Weather Girls, Bonnie Tyler, etc. And I was like, what the hell is this, right? But kind of got into it. I was very, you know, I mean, people who've, I don't know, people who listen to this podcast, maybe you've heard of it, maybe you haven't, right? But day fever is this massive thing. And it's like the whole retro culture. It's people who still want to go out, but are kind of getting on a bit. yeah And they want to go out and rave, but then it's all over by, you know, it starts at three, so it's all over by eight o'clock.
00:32:55
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I was very kind of like oh my god this is really not I'm not into this when I walked in but you know I had a couple of shandies got over myself and they put on some rave anthems had quite a good time in the end actually it's good you know I put my cynicism aside yeah and and And why am I talking about this i don't know because you know you why i'm i talking about but i'm talking about this? Because it kind of relates, because I was thinking about it and by and being all dismissive about oh you know all these people listening to these old music. But like that's what this podcast is, right? We're just doing it in a different way. We're just like a hankering for a past.
00:33:35
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just like these people. It's all nostalgia, isn't it? right It's just different kind of nostalgia. It's our flavor of nostalgia, really. and Then this kind of relates to like the whole punk rock factory thing because a few episodes ago, I was starting to talk about a new engagement opportunity where we want people to send in songs, re-recorded versions of songs from their youth or their childhood. right and Actually, going to this ah day fever thing, maybe saying initially, I was like, reconsidering whether that was actually a good idea. Maybe we don't want to go to too nostalgic, and I don't know, what do you think, Steve? and I'm not sure. That was a very odd way to get to this point.
00:34:17
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I mean, I think I've spoken to a couple of people about the engagement opportunity, which is we're asking people to s send songs which are inspired by or taken from their childhood or some kind of concept of childhood. And they're quite up for it. I mean, I think initially they're a bit like, oh ah but then it is as broad as it is long that you can pay you could go as far as you want or as deep as you want or as shallow as you want with it. and Absolutely. Yeah, we've had that we've had um submissions and it's interesting.
00:34:54
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that people are thinking about it. So that's good. All right. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think the thing is right. The people who listen to this podcast maybe are going to do something with it, though. yeah It's not just a matter of like just recreating the past. It's like making something new. Yeah. And so maybe something more original or more interesting than the hallowed punk rock factory. Yeah. I mean, punk rock factory, I'm not that enamored of them. i just I think the clue's in the name, right? Punk Rock, which is surely the antithesis of a production line, capitalism.
00:35:32
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Yeah, a factory. It also sounds like a, it almost sounds like a soft play centre. It kind of is. And was it Robbie who said that thing about ah there a picture of their amps? Because I remember seeing they had they had these big speakers behind them, these big marshha stacks, right? yeah yeah Behind them when they were performing. And it looked really impressive. And there was ah there was a picture of you from the back and they were completely hollow. Yeah.
00:36:04
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It's which is hilarious, right? Yeah. But that's pretty much like Pong Rock. Discuss. Oh, yeah. Right. As I've just said, I've been thinking about whether it's a good idea for an engagement opportunity, whether it's too backwards looking, or maybe we need to sort of think a bit more about the future, you know, and and and think about, you know, making things for the future. And I prepared a little song actually. So I don't want to spring this on you, Steve, but I've got Stacey here yeah on my lap. There she is. Can we just explain that Stacey is your ludicrous name for your guitar? Yes, Stacey. And Stacey and I are going to perform a song for our listeners. Are you ready for that? Bring it. OK. Just might have to edit a little bit here because that might just take me a moment.
00:37:03
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but
00:37:06
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Now the world don't move to the beat of just one drum. What might be right for you, may not be right for some. A man is born, he's a man of means, then along come two. They got nothing but the genes, but they got different strokes he takes, different strokes he takes, different strokes to move the world.
00:37:36
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Everybody's got a special kind of story. Everybody finds a way to shine. No matter what you got, not a lot. So what they'll have there is you'll have yours and I'll have mine. And together we'll be fine. Come on, Steve. Different strokes it takes Different strokes it takes Different strokes to move the world world It ended on a hum Do you think anyone will notice that that's that is quite retro? That's very retro, that is not an original composition is it Giles?
00:38:27
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Don't tell them. There's going to be people who don't know what that is. Okay. Right. Now there's only one song left to talk about and you need to talk about it because, you know, there's probably a short list of least favorite songs we ever recorded and this is definitely on it.
Debating 'Dutch Girlfriend'
00:38:49
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You know the reason I picked this one for this episode? Yeah. Because, let me just explain something. Steve is like the and steve is very much the producer in charge of the admin of what we whatever we do, right? And he's the sort of person who writes lists and things. And he he sent me a list of all the songs that we've recorded that he's got that we could feature. And it's quite a long list, right? But he deliberately left this one off. Because it our shades.
00:39:23
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And i I just like the i just like your manipulation there that you you tried to just completely erase this one from history. Because it's our shit. OK, but I disagree. OK. And I want to hear this one. So we're going to put it in the podcast. It's a firm candidate for the best of this or Johnny Domino volume two, never go have which will be out at some point in the future. and I am going to rely on our listeners to lobby Steve about this and when it does eventually end up on Spotify I want to take it all the way to the top of our most played songs all under a thousand obviously but you know it can still be at the top of the list so this is a song it's a sliver of a song it's not very long
00:40:16
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And it's on the album that we recorded called Solid Ground, which is Steve's not that keen on it because it is probably more of our prog. end of our spectrum. we We kind of spread out a little bit on this album. yeah right We undid our belt and we kind of went with it. And this is a song called Dutch Girlfriend and it features a sample from a song from Bugsy Malone. So you want to be a boxer. So again, it's kind of harking back to Songs of Youth. There's some cracking songs on Bugsie Malone. Somebody should do some versions of some of them. There's some really great songs on there. Anyway, love that drum beat. So we used it and we wrote a song about an imaginary Dutch girlfriend, which Steve hates.
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you
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Train me like a film star Hold me by the arm No don't think you know her When we're on the farm All the rules are broken Shadows in the park Cheese radioactive body glowing in the dark
00:42:15
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I don't want it to end With my girlfriend She is late to me She brings me coffee and tea Soft drinks and pineapple cheese For a small family
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Don't want it to end With my Dutch girlfriend
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a a That's where another song comes in. Yeah. Really, what should happen? The drums should come in at that point. It should go on for another and a three minutes. You said it was a short song. It's two minutes and 30 seconds. It's long. For a short song, it feels long. you know, it needs editing. yeah but walk down to thirty second At least, it's just it it doesn't do anything. You know, you've got a sample and yeah i know this is you got hold of Mark's sampler, and you did a lot of stuff on it. And there's a recording somewhere of
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We had like a really weird campy concert album by Dorothy Squires. He did such a short collage of samples from that and that would have been better on the album than Dutch Girlfriend. Yeah. And it would have been shorter. I'd have enjoyed that. but I would have added that as well. We should have added that on as well as Dutch Girlfriends. We're going for a kind of a maximalist kind of thing. I don't mind stuff that spreads out. I don't mind albums that take the P or
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try your patience a bit you know like wowie zowie or three feet high and rising or de la sol is dead or you know any other kind of double album like double nickels on the dime something where people spread out and indulge themselves i just don't think that's very good i just don't think it's a very good version of ah indulging yourself hey different strokes for different folks do you stop talking about different strokes but it's just no i just Anyway, I liked it. Do you know why I liked it? Because you did it. yeah well You've done it. But I quite lot i ah quite like the weird psychedelic sound and I quite like the guitar playing and I'm into sort of like, Spaceman 3 and stuff like that, right? Yeah. And, you know, if it was longer, it could have been a bit more like that. But the main reason I like it, Steve, because it has the sound of my brother laughing on it.
00:45:47
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now I hate that guy. This is the guy I hate. guy much's the guy i love I hate him. He's an enabler. I'm an enabler of you and your daft brain. I'm there laughing at you. and I think we had to help each other.
00:46:05
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possibly so co-dependent relationships do all that is true yes has has been commented before but i just think it's i just just don't like it all right well just don't like you don't you'd have to like it i don't like everything that we do with that's the whole point of this podcast we don't have to like we're not playing stuff that we just like That would be very boring, wouldn't it? yes you know we we we we We're not sort of going, hey, these are the greatest hits of Johnny Darmondale. Anyway, yeah, I liked it. I don't think I've got anything else to say about it though.
00:46:38
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Excellent. If you are a new listener to the podcast, one of the things that we do is we listen to a batch of songs from our back catalogue, back catalogue. We've just done that. At the end of it, we select one to go on a best of compilation. Now, because we didn't write the Peru song I'm sure Jock would be fine but it all just gets a bit messy if we have a Peru song on a best of Johnny Domino compilation I'm not sure how we'd go about doing a compilation I'm sure somebody more intelligent than me will tell me how to do it so if we can
00:47:15
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That could go on there. I just don't think it can. Okay. um So we've got, we've got Dutch girlfriend, not going to happen. We've got brand new complication yeah and we've got this one's for the kid. Okay. Now, which, if any, could you imagine going on a best of compilation trials? I would go for this one's for the kid hu and Dutch girlfriend and Peru. Dutch girlfriend track one, side two of the tape. Okay. Well, it's just not happening. You see, cause I'd go for this one's for the kid and brand new complication, especially if we can't get a Peru song on it, because then it has the indie pop-tastic side of the recordings that we all did at that period of time.
00:48:04
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Well, for the sake of the podcast, I'm going to let you decide for now. Good. But it doesn't, you know, you can always change it later. Go on. I know, but I'm not going to and touch girlfriend isn't going on here. All right. Okay. We'll see. We'll see. Well, in that case, it's this one's for the kid and brand new complication. Cool. Thank you very much for listening to the podcast. If you have enjoyed the podcast, please share it with a friend. Hold on a second for a moment. Wow, I nearly got to the end of the podcast then. I just thought of something. Excellent. You know, the people who listen to this podcast probably quite like a bit of old music TV clips, right? The sort of stuff that you trawl through on YouTube, right?
00:48:50
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And I want to tell you about the greatest bit of old music TV that you might not have seen. It can't be Jonathan Richmond. It's not Jonathan Richmond. Just for the sake of variety. It is. Bongwater.
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performing You Don't Love Me Now on a program called Night Music in 1888.
Unique Performances and Eclectic Styles
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Night Music, that is a mad program. There's loads of bonkers stuff on there. Let's talk a bit about Night Music. Night Music was a program that was just aired in the US, s right? And there's tons of great stuff on there. Sonic, you've played on it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And there's quite a few other the people as well. Anyway, it was aired from 1988 to 1990. And I think they only did two seasons. And you know that Jules Holland was involved in it. Yeah. So this was before the Jules that we know on the BBC and his later programme. I think this was kind of an influence on that. Yeah, of course it was. Yeah, this was a forerunner, right?
00:49:55
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And also the main host in America was jazz saxophonist David Samball. It was. Or Mr Hair, as I like to call him. Of course, Senor Hair. Senor Hair, if you watch the clip. So it's kind of interesting to dig into that. But this particular clip, let me sell it to you. You need to go away and watch it after you've listened to this podcast. Yeah. It is a really exciting an interesting in performance, I'll go through the bullet points. It's got an intro by Screaming Jay Hawkins. ye He does a kind of ah a weird improvised thing over a Led Zeppelin riff. There's a weird-looking band. right Bongwater, a very strange-looking collection of people. they look like yes its It's like as if the X-Men have formed a band. There's like a Captain Cayman-type character on guitar. Kramer looks like a kind of a puppet scarecrow.
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on bass he looks almost inhuman and Magnuson the singer she's got a crazy halo of hair that looks like some kind of Indian headdress or something, right? Yeah. There's like church choir ladies doing backing vocals. The song has a heartbreaking sentiment and it's a celebratory and anarchic performance. Yeah. It's really good. You should definitely go and watch it and if stay tuned right to the end because ah this at the end of the clip, it goes into the next bit of the program and it's got artist The Spoon Man,
00:51:33
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ah explaining how spoons can express different emotions if you play them differently. Check it out. There's also another link to an occasionally returning feature on this very podcast. What's that Steve? Well David Sanborn, smooth jazz saxophonist, yep played on Your Party by Wien. Did he? He's a sax player. That's amazing. That's amazing. They decided they they needed some sexy saxophone and they got David Sanborn in to do it. Oh, that's great. I'm going to picture him doing it next time I listen to that song. With his hair, yes, absolutely. The clips also got Bob Weir. David Sanborn died a few months ago. RIP David Sanborn.
00:52:22
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The clips also got Bob Weir in it, who's a founding member of the Grateful Dead, who looks like the straightest guy ever. Compared to Bongwater. Yeah, crazy. Wowzers.
Conclusion and Call to Action
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Thank you for listening to the podcast. If you have enjoyed it, please share it with a friend and like and subscribe wherever you are listening to this podcast right now. Please join us on our social media platforms, Instagram, Facebook, and on an old fashioned blog. And you will find all kinds of audio visual material related to the songs that we have talked about on there.
00:52:58
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And sending in some stuff. Join. Sending some stuff. Yes. If you've got any tapes of things that you've recorded in the past under your bed or a huge box of CDs, you know, um I'll take one off your hands if you want to send it to me, not a box, a single CD. We've got enough boxes of CDs. Inside Lewin Davis, my favourite bit in that film is Lewin Davis, is um he's going all over New York trying to find somewhere to sleep and he's carrying a box of his records that weren't sold, they're all remained by his record label. He goes to this guy's house and he finds a table and think so i'll put him under there and he goes to put them under the table and the guy whose house he's in, he's got his own box of records under there. ah exactly so you can You can get rid of one of them. tools if you've Not a box, not a box.