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S3 E6: Bring back the West Coast!
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We go waaaay off topic this episode! For a beer and pop-culture podcast, we end up spending way too long on the technology behind TVs and cars, but hey, if you've made it this far in the podcast series, you know we love a solid tangent!
Beers reviewed this episode:
1) Bad Shepherd Brewing Co - Piña Colada Sour - Sour - 4.0% 2) Hop Nation Brewing Co - SITE FP Single Foedre Sour Blonde - Sour - 5.5% 3) Beer Farm - Woolya Wah - Red Ale - 6.2% 4) Garage Project - Pernicious Weed - Double IPA - 8.0%
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Transcript
Welcome and Introduction
00:00:29
Speaker
Welcome back to Pixels and Pints where we're going to cover our favorite pop culture and we'll review a couple of, or a few Aussie beers along the way. And one Kiwi. And one Kiwi beer. There you go. Joining me tonight is Dan. Hi. And Tom. Hello. And I'm Pete. And hopefully the recording, the video recording is actually gonna work.
Tasting the Pina Colada Sour
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Speaker
I've got no idea if it's in focus. I don't know if I'm in shot. I've got no idea.
00:00:54
Speaker
That's the fun and games we like to play. You're in shot there. Oh no, that's me. You're in shot there. Better put your glasses back on. So do you want to start with cracking the beer and telling us what we're drinking? Yes, the first beer we're having is the Pina Colada Sour from Bad Shepherd Brewing. And they're from Victoria from Emory? Yes they are.
00:01:16
Speaker
There we go. Uh, Cheltenham. It was a Cheltenham where I grew up. What a fantastic tale, Tom. Nobody cares. Correct the beer. I was down there the one year of gabs and that was the first year that a bad shepherd had opened up. And, uh, yeah, really good beers always. So I haven't had a bad one from him. So nice. Cool. We got a first topic to start with. I don't know. Do you Tom?
00:01:44
Speaker
4K is awesome. I was finally upgraded.
Excitement Over New 4K TV
00:01:48
Speaker
Tom just got a new TV. He's joined the rest of us. I've caught up with society. 4K land. Yep. That's good. We christened it. Explain what christening a TV involves.
00:02:03
Speaker
Yeah, you pick something nice to watch the first time, first thing you watch. Makes a lot of sense now. You watch the new David Attenborough. Oh, yeah. Planet Earth ones. Is that the really depressing one about the end of the world? I really want to see it. Hey. Well, it's not the end of it. It's very good. I was worried for the whole time. It was going to be like, we're ruining everything. We're destroying the world. And it's kind of,
00:02:28
Speaker
ends on a positive note. My whole generation's fault. But anyway, and like leaves it there, but he does, he does spectacular job and turns around and goes like halfway or three quarters of the way through. And then he goes, this is how you can fucking fix it though. Yeah, cool. And then I saw something today. It was like,
00:02:45
Speaker
When David Attenborough tells you to fix the fucking planet, you fix the fucking world. Yeah. The world's going to be at a huge loss when we lose him. Yeah. We did exactly the same thing when we got the blue red player and the TV that we got back then. We were watching the planet earth, the David Attenborough planet planet earth ones. So yeah, got show lights now. Oh, I'm confused. There's bright things, bright shiny things that are just appearing.
00:03:13
Speaker
I'm going to try this beer. It's good. It's really good. It's nice. It smells like a fucking pina colada, right? It's coconutty and pineappley and slightly sour. It's nice. Very nice. Dead air. Dead air of Australia. Very, very, very light sour.
00:03:32
Speaker
But that coconut comes through. The coconut comes through at the end there and they talk about on the can the creamy coconut cream Sabro hops, which are really coming out and about these days. I've had some weird things with Sabro hops though. It does get really weird, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah, super weird.
00:03:50
Speaker
a mountain culture porter and I don't know what happened, but halfway through I thought I was drinking Jagermeister. Really herbal. Yeah. Wow. I spoke to... That's bizarre. Yeah. I spoke to one of the brewers at Batch about it and he goes, yeah, that can happen. I've had that happen before. He reckons it was a combination of the malt and what they were using, but... Yeah. Okay.
Gaming Anticipations - PS5 and More
00:04:08
Speaker
Well, I think it's great. It's not too sour. It's not... No, it's really nice. It's, uh, what strength is it? Uh, 4%.
00:04:15
Speaker
Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Right on the, right on the good, good average mark for the sours. Well, it's one standard drink in a can. Yeah. Yeah. Really smashable. Really nice. It does say remember what summer feels like. Well, this is what it tastes like. And you know what? They're not wrong. Yep. Good job. Well, it's a coconut in that. That's good. The Sabro helps with that too. The what's own? Sabro hops.
00:04:37
Speaker
Yeah, it's a bit like we're saying is very unusual hops is can run on schedule about the same time as last time you named it this time I'm going to have to not only I had to had to fuzz out her face but now I'm going to have to blank a name to marker it. Yeah, thanks. She's probably walk past with a folder covering a face or something.
00:04:56
Speaker
No, she's got a wave. So I've got a topic. If you finish talking about your TV, you didn't really describe the TV. 65 inches in length. 65 inches, yes. It's the most inches I've ever had in my hands. How many other jokes can I make? I'm really going to milk it, aren't you?
00:05:17
Speaker
Oh, really don't. Yep. And you didn't even mean it. Yeah, I got the Samsung. It's good. QLED. Don't know what that really means, but it's sharp. The reason I got it was definitely for the PS5. It's got a HDMI 2.1 port.
00:05:35
Speaker
I don't know how important that's actually going to be. Which does what? It decreases the lag time between the system and the... That's what they talked about. I read several review pages. Were any of them written by people that didn't sell TVs though? Yeah. Okay. A few of them. They're more by gaming sites. Okay. Cool. It's bright and shiny and delicious and really now takes up our entire living room. That's what TVs are for, man. I'm assuming you know what QLED means.
00:06:04
Speaker
It's the proprietary name for quantum dot technology that Samsung uses. Which is more dots per... Yeah, they're like individually lit, I think, from memory. There's a matrix of lights behind the LCD, the liquid crystal. Who the fuck comes up with this shit?
00:06:23
Speaker
Very, very smart Japanese men is the answer to the question.
OLED vs LED Technology
00:06:27
Speaker
Um, as opposed to OLED, which is still the best technology in terms of pure blacks to pure whites. So everyone in LED land, LCD, LED, LCD land are trying to get closer and closer as they can to OLED, which OLED, the actual pixel pixels phosphorous themselves. So you don't need an LED matrix behind it to light the color. Like that.
00:06:52
Speaker
It's self lit. When you go colour and black, I get it. But anytime you go anything else. You've got to shine a light into the coloured pixel to make it glow so you can see it. And the problem with that is when you go to pure black, those LEDs sitting behind the panel still bleed into neighbouring pixels, which is why on an LED panel, you're never going to have pure black.
00:07:18
Speaker
Whereas on OLED, I'm nodding. I'm now understanding. Whereas with OLED, because each pixel is its own light, when you turn it off, it is completely and utterly dark, which is why you get pure blacks out of OLED and you don't get pure black out of any other technology yet. And who has the proprietary on OLED?
00:07:37
Speaker
LG. Thank you. LG. Yeah. Cause I was looking at the LG OLED, but someone, some of the things I was reading talked about burning. If like you have a map like up for a long time and I play a lot of those single play games, we always have like a mini map in the corner. So I was like,
00:07:53
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know, they're getting pretty good with no burning. I mean burning used to be a big problem, right? Plasmas and that was terrible. But by the end of plasma, you almost had zero issues with burning. I mean, iPhones have been using OLED technology for a couple of generations now and if anything's going to have burning, it's going to be the time in the corner or the 4G logo in the corner
VR Gaming Experience
00:08:16
Speaker
of your screen and no one's got burning issues.
00:08:18
Speaker
So, I don't know how much of an issue it really is. But no other picture ever comes up on that. Oh yeah, well I guess it does. Does it? When you're, yeah, I guess that's a good point. You wouldn't notice it was burned in. No. But you would if your battery, if your battery icon was full all the time and then it went empty, then you'd see a white shadow there. I've never noticed. Certainly your clock. Oh yeah, different numbers, duh. So, yeah. Anyway, here we go. Congratulations. Thank you. I don't know if I said this on the podcast.
00:08:47
Speaker
I've been really happy with my TV. So I've got a Sony LED TV. And I guess this is kind of peripherally relevant to pop culture because that's what we watch it all on, right? So I've been really happy with it for a long time. It's big. I think it's 75. It's nice and bright.
00:09:03
Speaker
And then I found out accidentally when I moved here in April that it's not HD. It's not true HD. So it emulates. You're talking about this already. Not, not HD. So HDR, it emulates HDR, but it's not true HDR. So I've got 4k players. I've got HDR amplifier. I've got all the shit in the chain. And I found out the hard way accidentally that the TV didn't actually display any of it. And as soon as I found out, I hate the TV.
00:09:30
Speaker
It's just purely psychological. It's just... Classic Peter. I love that TV right up until the moment I realised it didn't have this core feature that I thought it had and now I fucking hate it. Of course, the screen hasn't changed between before and after, but now I hate it. So, what... I actually haven't even looked. What do you... Is the PlayStation 5 coming with a bundle of anything? Because like, do you get... Like, remember with the 4 and the 3 you got a game with it? Or like, just... No, you didn't. No, not the launch.
00:09:58
Speaker
No, you just got the console and then you had to buy your games. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So no, I've never bought a gen one like a first release first release. Uh, yeah, console. Um, I've always waited till there was a bundle.
00:10:12
Speaker
Right. I don't think I've ever bought a bundle. Yeah. I think, I think the original Xbox came with project Gotham. That was probably as close to a bundle as I've ever gotten. That's probably why I thought it was something like that. Well, I got, I bought my PS4 with black flag. Yeah. Okay. So it's just a great place. I think great game that way. I re-bought a PS4 with the Battlefront. I got the Vader PS4. The Vader one. Yeah. Cause it came with the controller as well. Yeah. So, so what's our, what's our day one that you're going to play?
00:10:43
Speaker
There'll be digital releases on the new Spider-Man, the Miles Morales. Oh, it's day one, is it? Yeah. Oh, okay. And Cyberpunk's only two weeks after or something like that. Something like that. Yeah. Looking forward to that. November 13th or something like that. But there's something like 20 release titles that they've announced. And by that, I would assume that that means that you can digitally download them from the store on day one. I think there's five AAA ones you can get like day one, which are like big studio games. Godfall.
00:11:14
Speaker
the Sackboy game, the- That's Triple A? I don't count that as Triple A. Oh, Sony first party title, I guess. Yeah. Miles Morales, and then Demon's Souls, the remaster of Demon's Souls. Oh, and the Destruction Derby game. Which looks fun. I miss Destruction Derby. That was a brilliant game on its day. I was watching a gameplay thing and I was like, oh, this looks really Fort90 and it really turned me off it. The new one? Yeah, the one. It was just like the way they were like,
00:11:43
Speaker
I was at the one where the characters were even getting out of the car and everything. Yeah. Okay. Um, it's got that similar art style.
00:11:50
Speaker
I'm sure Watchdog Legion's out pretty soon after release because they're advertising that pretty heavily for PS5. There's also a bunch of PS4 games that are re-releasing, which I'm sure will be out on day dot. They get that upgrade. Yeah, the free upgrade. Yeah. So I'm sure there's going to be a bunch of games that are out that are not really PS5 releases, but they're re-releases and those will all be digital and ready to go because they've already got the game code. It's not like they have to bug test it or anything. They just increase the texture resolution and press go.
00:12:17
Speaker
I want more of that beer. I'm going to have to hunt some of that down. That was really good.
Visit to Balmain Bottle Shop
00:12:22
Speaker
I've got all the beers today from the Sackville bottle shop in Balmain. What are you doing in Balmain? I went to the Sackville bottle shop. Oh, that's, you actually specifically. It's a drive-through bottle shop. Oh, nice. Yeah. It's ironic when you think about it. Yeah. I'm not going to drink in my car. Well, I had a cola actually.
00:12:48
Speaker
The taste of a new generation. You are such an advertising whore. Yeah. Have you, have either of you jumped back into Jedi Fallen Order since the? No. Since the what? The answer is no, but since the what? The, it was the, the latest update and it was, I mean, it wasn't. They gave a bunch of free stuff and like waves, like a create your own wave, um, combat arena.
00:13:14
Speaker
Okay. Is there more mission story? No, no, no, no. It's not story mission stuff. It's just, you know, it was just like an evil cow skin, a Sith cow skin or something. It is one of the negative side effects of platinum, platinuming a game. Yeah. We played about this last week, the made up word.
00:13:31
Speaker
You just, you, you never want to go back because you've already gotten the platinum trophy. So Ollie, release more DLC for me to run around and do nothing in. So what's the fucking point? It depends on the day I say this. If they add story, if they add missions, different conversation, but when it's just, here's a, here's a skin. I've already finished the game. I want to run around, want to run around with a fucking polka dot lightsaber. Whoop-de-doo. I've still got nothing to do with it. Sounds pretty cool. Just trying to visualize that.
00:14:01
Speaker
like that insurance ad where the dog's running around with a great ad. They've got me on that one. I don't remember who it was for, but it's clearly the advertising didn't work. It's just very well done and funny. And I chuckle every time I see it.
00:14:14
Speaker
Yeah. Cause I think the, the ghosts update came in today. Yes. Like did it today. So today it was on the online player. Yeah. It looks interesting. I'm going to jump in and just have a look and see what it's like. Um, has anyone else checked out Star Wars squadrons yet? No, it's still sitting there in the shrink wrap.
00:14:35
Speaker
No, I looked at it online last night and it was the same price as a physical copy. Isn't that weird that, yeah, that we're obviously huge Star Wars fans, but it took you a week or two weeks to get it. And I've only played it for a couple of hours. You bought it day one and still haven't opened it. I think I almost cracked it out today, but then I knew I definitely wouldn't come if I cracked that out on a full day. That's a tomorrow job.
00:14:57
Speaker
And I haven't even bought it. I guess, I guess for me, it's a little bit of a time sink that I don't have at the moment. I know that once I get it, I know I'm going to be on it all weekend. Yeah. So Dan and I were talking while we were waiting for Tom, who was an hour and a half late. I'm just, it wasn't quite an hour and a half.
00:15:14
Speaker
See, I was about an hour late, but still when I got here, I had to wait for you 10 minutes to fix your fucking camera. And go and get the other one. So I was talking to Dan before you got here, motherfucker. So I've only played the first, I think, three or four missions in the game. Campaign only. I'm not interested really in the multiplayer. I might get into that later.
00:15:35
Speaker
I don't know, it kind of felt schizophrenic and I, admittedly, I haven't given the game a fair run yet. I'd want to play it for a few hours. I was playing in VR, so I'll part the VR aspect for now. It felt a bit schizophrenic in that I find the shield system or the energy system quite arcadey. You know, you put all your power into energy, sorry, into shields, engines or weapons.
00:15:59
Speaker
And then if you leave it there long enough it powers up and you get super duper weapons and you get you know super shields and super engines and you got a boost on the engines and stuff. So to me that mechanics quite arcadey and yet the actual flight combat how slow the the spacecraft are,
00:16:17
Speaker
You can't turn on a dime, it's very simmy. And the fact that you're locked simulation-y, I was inventing another word. And the fact that you're locked into that first-person cockpit view is also very simulation-esque. As is, you can turn off most of the HUD elements that help you and just rely on visualizing on the visual aspects of the gauges in your cockpit.
00:16:43
Speaker
So if you wanna know how fast you're going, you've gotta actually look at how far you've moved the thing. I did think it was cool that when you, I was in the TIE Fighter and everyone, I mean, you guys were talking about how annoying it might be to have the lack of peripheral view looking out through a circular fish tank window the whole fucking time. It didn't bug me. What I thought was cool was,
00:17:02
Speaker
They're holding on to three-dimensional, um,
Motion Sickness in VR
00:17:05
Speaker
joysticks. And when you're, um, I think, I think when you're accelerating or decelerating, she actually, she, cause I'm playing a female for that main character, she pulls in and pushes out, just speed up and slow down. And then when she's, when she's rolling, you can actually see her hands moving in time and it's pretty well fucking synchronised. So I thought that was cool.
00:17:25
Speaker
Do you get a little bit of a disconnect there when it's not, it's meant to be your hands, but they're not in that position holding those controls? No, but it did occur to me, I wonder if they've implemented the two move controllers like they did in... I saw a video of a guy, he posted just a video of him playing it, but he had like a proper flight sim set up and he was using that and it looked amazing that, but he also had the full rig, like had a chair that...
00:17:51
Speaker
Yeah. Reclined back, he had the curve screen around his face, like really got into it, but. They did that for No Man's Sky and I found it fucking annoying. So like they, they implemented exactly what you just described or what we kind of described there. You got the two move controllers, one's throttle.
00:18:07
Speaker
and one's your joystick and you move your hands as if you're holding throttle and joystick. And within 10 minutes it's fucking annoying as hell. It's not a natural position to be sitting on a couch with your hands at 90 degrees. When you want to open the canopy and get out of your ship after you've parked it on a planet, you've literally got to reach to the fucking canopy open switch thing and lift up with the button in order to open the door for you to climb out.
00:18:33
Speaker
when you're walking around to get your gun out, because obviously you walk around without your fucking gun in your hand, to get the gun out, you reach over your shoulder, press down the grab button and then pull it forward and it gets the gun out. It's a cool idea, conceptually, but in execution, it gets fucking old really quickly. Especially when you're mashing your controller against the back of your couch is not fun. So yeah, kind of a funny implementation. The VR aspect of the game though,
00:19:00
Speaker
Game changing. Yeah. Like, it's what we... I think, VR, there was a test mission or a test walk around in Battlefront 2? Yeah, there was the first one because I had Battlefront 2 and then I went to get the X-Wing because it was a Rogue One X-Wing mission. Yeah. So I downloaded that from the PlayStation Network and it said waiting to install Battlefront.
00:19:23
Speaker
I'm like, you motherfuckers. Don't fucking have Battlefront 1, do I? I think I've probably got a physical copy you can borrow. Battlefront 1. I only just deleted it the other day because I reinstalled GTA 5. Right. So that was cool. Yeah. Being in VR, not so much the space combat, that's cool too. And I've been lucky in that I've never had any motion sickness from VR. Yeah, I'll be interested to see how I...
00:19:49
Speaker
deal with it. If you get it, it's going to be in a spaceship game when you're rolling and moving forward. That's when it fucks people up, apparently. But standing in the base and you've got the option to climb into your TIE fighter and you can look up and the TIE fighter is lit off the ground on a grabber arm and it's 12, 15 foot tall.
00:20:12
Speaker
You never really get that sense of scale watching the movies that it's, Tie Fighters are actually that fucking big. Yeah. Until you're looking up at this thing towering over you. It's really fucking cool. And I found the 10 seconds of launch games section where you're in the, um, in the, in the hangar bays for both sides and setting up your loadout and shit. I found that was more interesting than actually playing the game. But like I said, I haven't actually played the game for that long. So I haven't given it a fair run yet.
00:20:41
Speaker
I think what's going to make me sick is the drift when you can go in one direction, have your engine set in one direction and then lock it and drift. I didn't do that. So I don't know how I responded. I did feel, when I say I don't get motion sick, I don't get an effect badly enough that I have to say, oh, I can't do that again. That makes me feel weird.
00:21:04
Speaker
But you do get that. I do get that sensation. And it's usually when I'm standing on the spot rotating in a circle. Yeah. Just to see if I can make myself sick. And yeah. If I'm deliberately trying to make myself sick, sometimes I make myself sick. Well, the first thing I do in every VR game is turn off the stupid staggered rotation or the staggered move forward thing. So I just want smooth doom style movement. And I did that in this when I first got into the game and I'm standing in a hangar looking at my A wing or my X wing, sorry.
00:21:33
Speaker
And, um, I turned left and the world moved and my, obviously my body didn't move and I went, Oh, that feels cool. I'm going to do that again. And then I span around in circles. Oh, why not? Yeah. Why do people jump out of planes? Just trip yourself on, uh, all the cables that you're attached to and pull your TV, your PlayStation off the cabinet and
00:21:57
Speaker
Sorry, I just asked a dumb question that I want to, a dumb rhetorical question that I want to fix. So why do people jump out of planes? It's got nothing to do with the sensation of anything we're talking about. It's for the adrenaline, but, but why do people jump out of a perfectly fine plane? Cause they want a reaction. I did the same thing with VR. I'm not likening myself to those fucking hooligans. Fair enough. Rapscallions, a lot of them. Full respect to them.
00:22:19
Speaker
I think by the time we get back here, I'll have, I'll have downloaded it. Yeah. Well, it's going to be probably for three weeks for until our next episode. So this will release this Thursday, hopefully, but I'm having some minor dental surgery on Wednesday and I'm going to be out for a little while and then there's Halloween. So, um, that's going to be fun. Um, it's probably going to be till three weeks. So you got plenty of time. Yep.
00:22:44
Speaker
Cool. I think we might take a break because I need to get up and get another beer. Yes.
Challenges in Beer Can Labeling
00:22:49
Speaker
All right. We'll be back in a second. And we're back and having a random conversation in the break about how hard it is from a technical side to line up labels on beer cans. And I appreciate everything you've just said about the technicalities of functioning or making labeling machines function, but it still bugs the fuck out of me when the labels aren't straight.
00:23:12
Speaker
Yeah. It's just my OCD. Yeah. It bugs me, but it's, it's, it's such a blast of a thing. And you're going on, usually going on wet cans. So if you're not going on wet cans, like condensation, just after they've been filled, you're going on. Please give me a title for this episode. Wet cans.
00:23:27
Speaker
Or they're going on empty can shells, which have got no like. Density to them. Yeah. Weight, no solidity. That's not the right term, is it? I know what you mean though. Yeah. There's no, there's no weight or anything to them. So you, you're trying to put a label on an empty can shell without crushing the can shell. So you can't apply a right amount of pressure. So they're just shit of a things to get on. But I mean, they, they, they, yeah, I've done so many of them in the last couple of weeks. I'm sick of it. I've got so many coming up too. It's crazy. The life of a brewer.
00:23:57
Speaker
Yes. Damn labeler. So what are we drinking? Tomo? Are you untapping it? No, no, I'm just looking up how to pronounce the fucking word. It'd be like Chardonnay or something. Foudre? I'm so glad you looked it up and still sound confused. Oh, it's French. I don't speak French. Foudre. I'm going to enjoy this.
00:24:24
Speaker
It's the single fooder. I guess it's the from hop nation. Um, it is their side project, the site, um, fermentation project, uh, sour blonde ale. Did you need to mark that?
00:24:37
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. Kind of not really, but yeah. It's very different label for hop nation, but I guess the, the side project, the reason I got this one is cause we had the, actually I think I missed that episode, but you had the red one and you Pete didn't shut up about it for like the next six months.
00:24:56
Speaker
I don't even know what you're talking about. I don't think we shut up about any of the Hop Nation beers actually. Um, they did a, uh, a red, red sour, uh, fermented sour and we had it on. Was that the cherry one? I think it maybe was, but I just remember. So I got this for you. That's what I'm saying. I did a nice thing. Thank you. I was thinking about you. I was alone in a bottle shop. I'm not really sure what to make of that. Um, next topic.
00:25:24
Speaker
I got another Star Wars one, so I need a little bit of air time in between to talk about Star Wars. I wrote that list earlier and there was two Star Wars things on that too. So what am I looking for? So one of the things we're going to do in a future episode, probably the next episode actually, is we're going to watch a bunch of, what was your idea Dan? Watch a bunch of indie film, fan films. Oh yeah, fan films, yeah. We're going to add some commentary around the fan films.
00:25:45
Speaker
Oh, is that the red rabbit sour, red ale? That was it? Yes. You went and bought more, Pete. You went and bought Quaker's Cellars out of them. Yeah. I do love a good cherry, like a complex cherry sour though. And I'm a bit upset with my, yes, I do remember the red rabbit now.
00:26:06
Speaker
I don't know which direction to go with that. I'll Google it. It's all good. I'll throw it up on the video feed. If you're watching at home, yes. So we're going to do, excuse me, an episode dedicated to
00:26:21
Speaker
reviewing fan films, commentating on it. Yeah, commentating. Just a little bit of homework, wasn't it? Yeah. Maybe.
Future Fan Film Reviews
00:26:28
Speaker
I don't know. I think we'll- Yeah, I watched several, like, once again, I keep blaming Tom for this, my obsession with Republic Commandos now. You're welcome.
00:26:39
Speaker
And I found more stuff that I've sent him over the last couple of weeks. That was the rabbit hole I went down. There are a couple of them. One popped up on my feed, my YouTube feed and I watched it and that led to the studio which I went and watched more.
00:26:55
Speaker
The one that I dropped in the chat was Order 66 from the Clone Point of View. And I don't know if either of you guys watched that. I had seen that before you'd sent it. Oh man, excellent. See, this is a perfect example of some content that I would like to make, but it's only going to work for video content because if you're listening to the podcast, it's going to be us talking about some random fan film that no one's seen.
00:27:18
Speaker
Yeah, but you can put links in and we can give a 10 second pause for them to pause the podcast, go and find it on, click on the link on YouTube. Just 10 seconds of dead air. And then, then, then come back to it. Yeah, maybe. It's doable. But at least with fanfills. Or you guys that listen under the bars, you might want to, you might want to go to the video one for that one. Yes. Let's, I haven't even tried this beer yet.
00:27:43
Speaker
I can still smell panna colada in my claws. Oh yeah, actually I was just about to say it's got that creamy smell to it but it might have been that you might have wrote that might be the residual panna colada.
00:27:53
Speaker
Ooh, that's nice. I like the M. Nice like delayed sourness for me. You don't even get that tang from a sour. That just comes in just a little bit later. It's a little bit more salivate, saliva inducing. It makes me salivate. It's got a little bit of sort of oaky character to it, which I'm assuming it's by the barrel on the label. It might be barrel aged. Did you say it was barrel aged? Port 2840. It says on the side, it talks about how the,
00:28:23
Speaker
The barrel they used for this, the Foudre barrel they used came from the 1930s from South Australia. This oak Foudre barrel was made in Hindmarsh, South Australia just after World War II. For over 50 years it was used to age port and a couple of years ago Duncan Sam took it back to South Australia on the back of a ute to get it recouped.
00:28:43
Speaker
This sour blonde was then fermented and aged in the foudre, back in Footscray, using a combination of selected yeast and bacteria. It is a refreshing and complex sour beer with a lively acidity. That is a perfect description of what it is. I'm not getting much actual flavor notes out of it. I get the sour hit. I get the saliva, like the salivation. But there's nothing, if they're just calling it a blonder, you're getting that oaky from the wood. You're getting some light. It smells very oaky.
00:29:13
Speaker
Yeah, you're getting some of that light tannin too, which might be inducing the saliva reaction as well. I thought that might be why the oak might be the reason that it's kind of delaying that sour punch. I think it's a very different type of sour from the, from the pina colada. I mean, that had a lot, a lot more. But it's a barrel sour, so it's going to have a different body to it. It's going to have a different type of sourness. It was probably sour before it went in the barrel, but it would have, it would have added to the complexity of it for sure.
00:29:42
Speaker
I've got to say, I feel ashamed that my favorite sour is still a mass produced American craft-ish independent beer. And that's the Lolita by Goose Island. And it was an aged, and I think I've bought it from a fucking Woolworths liquor of all places. And it was a, it was a Magnum bottle. Like it's a champagne bottle size. Um, you should've told me I had like a case of them sitting in my cellar at work. Of Lolita?
00:30:09
Speaker
Well, of the, of all the sour sisters range. Yeah. Okay. I didn't, I didn't know you'd like, I would brought all four. Well, that was a, that was a cherry. I'm, I, I don't know if it, I don't know what type of sour it was. Lolita, Palia, Jillian and Madame Rose. Okay. They were the four. One of my favorites. It's just really complicated, really sour. And you still got a strong sour cherry hit. Yeah.
00:30:34
Speaker
And I'm ashamed because it's Goose Island, which, I mean, is a- They do make cracking beers, but it's not really craft, is it? The Bourbon County Barrel Stout is one of the highest rated beers in the world. It's blows your fucking head off. And when you're in the Nevada desert in summer, a Goose Island IPA goes down a fucking treat. It's still got more flavor than like a, I don't know, a Teddy.
00:31:00
Speaker
I don't even think they're in comparison there, Pete. I was about to say... I was copping shit the other day, so I ran out of beer in my house, which is... Oh, no. It is a good story to start. Well, it's a good way to start a story, isn't it? I had someone come and stay at my place for a long weekend. It can't have been that desperate because they've been sitting there for several weeks now. Wait till I finish the story. I have been sitting there for several weeks. I've got it. I'm in the Halloween party. I'm assuming they'll go because there's quite a few guys there that wouldn't know good beer if it smacked them in the head. And that's who I'm going to feed the Ted's to.
00:31:31
Speaker
You should leave them out in the sun for a bit while I'm skunking. Just to see if they notice. They're still in clear glass bottles too, so that'd... So I had a friend come and stay for a long weekend and she said that she loved Great Northern. That was her beer. So I bought a case because I couldn't find a six pack and I was shopping online. I think it was Woolworths Delivered or some shit. So I bought a case at Great Northern. She drank
00:31:53
Speaker
Two? She drank like three bottles of vodka while she was here, but she only took two beers. And so I've had a case minus two beers ever since. I ran a beer the other day and cracked one. And it's like, this is the first time I've had a mass-produced beer in, I don't know, almost a decade, I would think. And I forgot how watery they are. Yeah, insipid and watery and just nothing. There's nothing. That's what they're meant to be.
00:32:18
Speaker
But I drank four of them and I couldn't get pissed on them either. So it, to me, it was just like, is this just a way of boiling my water? I think Great Northern's mid strength too. Yeah. If it's, there's two, there's one. I'm sure it is. There's a full strength and a mid strength one. It's probably like three and a half percent. Yeah. I think it is. I think there's one more. They appeared at my, um, I had my sister's wedding on the weekend at the box party a couple of weeks ago. That was congratulations. Tom's sister commiserations to Tom's sister's husband.
00:32:48
Speaker
Ouch. It's just an asshole thing to say. I got no reason to say it. Dan's a fan and he listens to the podcast every episode. So sorry, Daniel. Um, welcome to the family. I'm glad you're there. Um, but yes, we had a whole bunch of great Northern's on the golf course while we were playing drunken golf. And it was just like, by the end of it, I was like, I think I've had like 12 beers. I'm like, I'm just not drunk to IPA. So I'm so used to those bigger strength beers. But
00:33:13
Speaker
He started like five and a half percent and go from there. And those, a lot of those mass produced beers are pretty low ABV. Yeah. Cause they want to sell shit loads of them, right? I've been getting my, um, I make Chris into his beer more now. And it's, it's funny cause he, he for years, all, all he drank was like cult and dry and stuff. And then we'll have a bunch of like nice, you know, five and a half percent pails.
00:33:37
Speaker
And they just always hit you that little bit harder when they're a smaller brewery. And it's just funny watching him for the first time, thinking he could still drink the same amount he could before when it was like half order. And it's just like, oh, dear.
00:33:51
Speaker
And a pail doesn't have a very strong flavor profile by nature. So it's a good segue into, but even a pail with the, I mean, the style doesn't have a whole lot of strong flavor in it. And yet it's 10 times more flavorful than any mass-produced beer you'll try. That's a nice way to start. And if they get a surprise out of that, then they've got a whole lot of shit in at all for them when they get into the real stuff. Not that pail's not real. Anyway, next topic, Tomo.
00:34:21
Speaker
Nope. I started the topic. I actually haven't done much. I've been working so much and I, yeah, there's a bit of that going
Bar Reopening Challenges During COVID-19
00:34:27
Speaker
on at the moment. How is everything now it's reopened? Probably not for chatting on here, but.
00:34:32
Speaker
How has the reopening been? I think we opened restrictions up to 30 people in a booking now, rather than 10 as of next, this coming Friday, I think. Yeah. We haven't had the official word from the government yet. Still just what you read on ABC news and stuff today. So. Are you taking the piss out of me? I'm not sure. No, no, no. That's cause it's the same. I went to my boss today and I was like, so we can book for 30. And it's like, well, not until we get an official government order. Yeah, right. Yep. Um, yeah, it's been good. Yeah. We did reopen hops. That was fun.
00:34:57
Speaker
Um, had some batteries that they rebrewed. Uh, when you say you reopened hops, I was in uncle hops three or so was Dan three or four weeks ago. Was it the first night? That was the opening night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So when I, the bar, the bar, I was there to support you, mate. Didn't know it was reopening, but anyway, that's why I said, let's go there.
00:35:18
Speaker
The bar, the bar space had been, cause he can walk through that bar. It had been reopened for, since we, cause we had to use it as a seating room, but we weren't pouring out of the taps. Right. Okay. Yeah. It's a slow process, but we'll get there. It's been good. Popular. Yeah. Surprisingly good first couple of weekends. So we're happy.
00:35:37
Speaker
Especially with the new brewery opening around the corner and some of the, um, other beer focused, um, pubs and bars in the area had some actually fucking cracking events on while we were reopening. I was like, I really did this at the wrong time, but what was the one around the corner? Uh, mountain goat has opened. Oh, that's the new, yeah. Yeah. It's meant to be more of a brew pub, but, uh, they, uh,
00:36:03
Speaker
Unfortunately, the brewer they were bringing up is still stuck in Melbourne, which is a bit of a shame. But yeah, I've went and checked it out. I happen to, I can now claim this. I was the first person to walk through their doors as a paying customer. Completely by chance. Went to meet a mate for lunch and we're like, Oh, we'll get there around two. You know, hopefully the crowds kind of died down by then. And we get there and they're just like, Oh, just line up guys. You guys are the first two. We're like, Oh, okay. I guess I can claim that now. There you go. That's cool.
00:36:32
Speaker
It's, it's almost a balance where like you want to be, you want, you want to reopen with a bit of fanfare, but you don't want too many people coming in either. It's kind of a weird line of walk, right? It is. No, cause there were so many little cobweby things we needed to like get rid of to reopen that bar. And it was just like, it was a quiet first night. I was like, Oh, I'm actually kind of really relieved that it was like that.
00:36:52
Speaker
It's not just that, it's also that you can't have that many people actually in the space because of the four square meter rule and all the rest of it. So everyone's excited that you reopen, you end up with a queue a mile long down the road and you can't let anyone in. It's also like running events and things like that are risky at the moment because you can run an event, but how many people can you get into the event? And you only need one fucker with COVID. And it's also that well.
00:37:15
Speaker
And then you're shut down again, right? That aside, but I mean, how many people are you going to annoy that you can't let in? Yeah. Because you're running an event that they really want to go to, but you can't because you can't have the people. And yeah, there's so much that goes on with it at the moment. But what do you fucking do? Yeah, that's it. It's complicated time to be drinking. All beers for the people. That's what I do. Yeah. That batch Simco IPA that was on there was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. That was almost one of my favorite beers of the day when we were out. What was the name of that?
00:37:45
Speaker
There's their single hop Simco IPA. It was one of the small batch releases and I'm pretty sure they're redoing it. They're scaling it up.
00:37:52
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. Nice. Cool. Package as well. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. I love it. I got a softbox with Simco. I love Simco.
Updates on Star Wars and Cyberpunk
00:38:00
Speaker
We couldn't get it for so many years. So you had to be contracted for it. And there's only a certain amount that came into Australia. And if you didn't have a contract for it, you couldn't get it. And now it's all just scaled up and I've got contracts for it now. So how cool. So fuck everyone else.
00:38:16
Speaker
You got to do what you got to do. That's true. Should we, I might give the glasses a quick rinse while you guys talk about something. Yeah, cool. Or do you want to pause and... No, we're good. Unless you want me to pause. No, not at all. So my next topic was Star Wars related. So have you got anything that's not Star Wars? I know I have one yet. Well, we touched on it earlier, Cyberpunk.
00:38:37
Speaker
Um, so I don't know whether you guys have seen it though. Keep doing a night city wire because night city is the city that you're in in cyberpunk, cyberpunk 2077. Uh, and every, I think it's every three weeks or maybe it's every month they've been doing night city wire. Um, and it's about a 25 to 30 minute long. Basically the developers talking about what they've done and how they've built and introducing the world. Do you want me to wait?
00:39:05
Speaker
No, no, that's fine. The world. It's annoying me, but it's not being picked up on the mic. The weapons, the clothing, the cars, the factions, the everything like that. But they just did, they just did the vehicles and the one that just passed. It was released on the weekend. Yep. And yeah, they're awesome, post-apocalyptic, cyber punky. They've done a fucking fantastic job. And then
00:39:28
Speaker
Johnny Silverhand, who is Keanu Reeves character. Yep. So he's, he's like a ghost in the machine, uh, in, in that. Uh, and they've given him a, uh, 1977 Porsche 911. Nice. And so when, when a cyberpunk 2077 out is, it's exactly a hundred years old and that they have a, they have an actual physical car of it.
00:39:52
Speaker
But they showed all the designs of the cars or from the economy ones, which are like the little smart cars, like the, what do we have these days? I think they actually are called smart cars. They look like roller skates. They have those, they have luxury vehicles, which are being sort of dual front axles. So to, and the front, they're front steer as well. So when the four wheels turn. Right, so they're four wheel steer. Cause they're all front steer.
00:40:21
Speaker
Well, it's four, well, four wheel steer on the front, but the rears don't, rear wheel drive. Right. But then all four at the front. Oh, there's four wheels on the front axle. There's four wheels on the front and two on the back. So dual front axles and singles on the back. Right. And just the animation of the four wheels turning was really cool. But I must admit, I haven't seen much on cyber.
00:40:45
Speaker
I saw the image of the Porsche. Yeah. It did look cool. And they did. Never been a Porsche fan.
00:40:53
Speaker
They did with the sound design for all the vehicles, they got like vehicles that we actually have these days. And they had some rally teams with them and they walked them through where to hook the microphones into the cars to get the right sound that they were looking for. Yeah, cool. So they hooked microphones in these cars and then they had stunt drivers drive them around a, an airfield to gather all the sound, sound design for it all.
00:41:20
Speaker
It's funny. I know it's way off topic for this podcast, right? But I'm a bit of a... I'm not really a petrol head. I just like nice cars and...
00:41:31
Speaker
Don't ruin. Oh, it's one of those. Peel labels for more information. You're going to do that. Sorry. The photo motherfucker. I was feeling very carefully. Sorry. Carry on. Anyway, before Pete yells at me and he's more, uh, we are drinking, uh, from beer farm in WA. Um, Christ. Crikey. Crikey.
00:41:52
Speaker
This is the Wooliwa Red Ale brewed with WA native Cyclops Wattle Seed and Wata Wattle Seed from Roselands Village Farm, I apologize. So it's done in collaboration with Fervour, from memory, RA, they use employee indigenous Aboriginal communities to go out and sustainably get all the ingredients. Look at those labels.
00:42:23
Speaker
but pretty. That is such an expensive label, but jeez, it looks good. Oh wow. And the printing on the can as well. That's what I saw. I didn't actually see the back of it. I've seen them before. It stops there for you for the photo, but yeah, it's, uh, that's, yeah, it's nice and shiny on the inside. There is a lot of information that I'm not going to read, but, um, would be probably cool to take photo of.
00:42:45
Speaker
I will take a photo of it. The Instagram. Not only the expense of those labels, but somebody has put so much time into like designing, layout, writing, everything on those. So what does it talk roughly about? The Aboriginal tribes that are native to the area that they collected the
00:43:01
Speaker
talks about the, which, yeah, which communities they, they partnered with to collect the ingredients. That's really cool. Um, and how this is number seven in the series of the native series. So I think we did the, we did this stout one time. They did strawberry gum stout. Delicious. So what is it? A gypsy brewing company that no beer farm, they have their own brewery in Margareva. Yeah. Um, I'll read that later.
00:43:28
Speaker
Thank you for breaking my bad run on reds. I have completely and utterly avoided reds for years since, well, for 12 months since Lebanon, because I had that horrendously bad red and it was like drinking a bottle of battery acid.
00:43:45
Speaker
So, and this is fucking tasty. It's complicated. You can taste the malt. It's got a weird, not weird, bad weird, but it's got a back palate spiciness to it. Yeah, it does. It really does. It's obviously from the botanicals, but it's, it's, it's something that you don't expect to be there. It is watery.
00:44:02
Speaker
That's because we had a waddle seat. Yeah. Gabs a couple of years ago. A couple of waddle ones. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's nice. It's quite bitter. I probably would like a little bit more sort of body to it. And you gave me shit about it. Well, the, your coast is safe. Um, you would have liked some more body to it. Is that what you're saying?
00:44:23
Speaker
a little bit more malt, just a touch more malt body to it. It just, but that, with that botanical side of it, it just comes off a little, a little bit thin. But yeah, the flavor wise, it's, it's great. Yeah, it's beautiful color. And a solid bitterness that carries through the palette as well. But that's probably all from those botanicals as well. Not just because it's not a, it's not really a hot bitterness.
00:44:47
Speaker
You know what the problem is? When you wash the glasses, because once the bottom gets wet, they're going to stick to the coaster. Your fault again, Tom. No, it's not Tom's fault. It's fine. It's fine. Just physics. Star Wars. No, you were talking about not being a... Oh, yeah, I'm not a petrol head. It's not like I watched fucking Bathurst or anything like that. But I've never been a big fan of... Well, first, the thought that got me there was I've never been a big fan of the poor shape. I think back in the 60s, 70s classic,
00:45:17
Speaker
When they were actually classics, they were sexy looking cars. To go back and see the classics now, all the vintage Porsches, they're sexy. But go and buy a Porsche today and it looks exactly the same. And I'm just like, what? Everyone else's design language has evolved over time.
00:45:34
Speaker
Even like if you compare the Aventador, the Lamborghini, I'm probably saying that wrong, but the latest Lamborghini to the old Lamborghini Diablos, and they've smoothed out all those harsh panels. It's still very much a Lamborghini, but it's evolved over time, the design language. But it made me remember an article I read about the new Rolls Royce Ghost 2, which is their latest ultra luxury, you know, six, seven hundred thousand dollar car.
00:46:04
Speaker
was so quiet they built a car to be completely and utterly quiet for the passenger because they've got a busy day and they're multi-billionaires and all the rest of it and they made it so quiet it was making test drivers nauseous or test passengers nauseous because they're in a sealed environment with absolutely zero noise. I don't know that exact feeling because I'm super rich.
00:46:27
Speaker
Just to clarify. We have our green room for the band area upstairs at the pub. We have a fully carpeted soundproofed room. And sitting in that with the doors closed, it's like- Well, now we'll have motion.
00:46:43
Speaker
Yeah. And you feel like the sound is being like sucked out of your ears. Is this where you go to play the Imperial March before you start a big night? Probably should. No, no, I plugged my phone into the, we should record the podcast in there. Plug my phone into the house speaker system. And I put on the, uh, the Vader moment from, um, rogue one, just like then I'm like,
00:47:01
Speaker
I'm going to go deal with customers. I would have played Jewel of the Fates. It's still my favourite Star Wars track of all time. But no, so they actually, so they filled like the entire roof liner was filled with sound deadening. There's double glazing on the, there's a composite panel inside the glass for double glazed windows. The entire doors are... So when you say it makes the passenger sick, what are they like, cabined off from the driver?
00:47:26
Speaker
Yes, but it's not so much that because it's like a typical, what do you call it? Limousine. Limousine, thank you. But it's more that because the world is moving around you, but your body is so stabilised with the soft fucking suspension and the complete nut of silence, that your eyes and your ears aren't saying the same thing anymore, which is what causes motion sickness. It goes back to VR.
00:47:52
Speaker
Yeah, well, it's almost, yeah, it's exactly opposite. Your eyes are telling you that you're moving, but your inner ear is saying the same still. Well, in these cars, it was the opposite. And so they actually had to reduce. They, they ended up piping sound into the cabin at a specific frequency so that you can feel you're moving without breaking the silence concept. Yeah. Okay. White noise.
00:48:13
Speaker
And it's the same now with electric cars. So all the semi-electrics is that they found that they're so silent people get sick in ludicrous mode on a Tesla because it's like being, there's no warning for a passenger. If you've ever noticed when you're driving over a speed hump or you're about to hit the accelerator or you know the gears about to change and you're the driver, your whole body stays pretty stable while you're driving, but your passengers fucking doing this all over the place.
00:48:36
Speaker
It's because you can predict the movement, but they can't. Every time I take a corner, Emma just like reaches up. She's like, I don't take them that sharply. She's like, no, I just need it. It's the same thing. Like, cause normally she'd stabilize against the wheel if she was driving. Yeah. So, so it's the same thing in a Tesla with the ludicrous mode. It's like, everyone says it's like a roller coaster because there's zero warning. You don't hear the engine rev with that microsecond before you start the forward motion.
00:49:01
Speaker
Because even when you take your foot off the brake, you have that slight crawl before the engine changes. So I'm in a single turbo four cylinder, and it's a quick car, but if I go flat to the floor in race mode, there's still a couple of heartbeats of noise as the engine spools before you get the G-force, but on an electric car in ludicrous mode,
00:49:28
Speaker
You put your foot down and there is zero sound. So the engine's not revving. It's just more kilowatts are going from the battery to the wheel. Who's the guy? He's like the monster energy driver and he does a lot of things where he has like a custom built Ford Fiesta and he does those.
00:49:47
Speaker
He drove up those massive set of stairs in China. He like drove a car there and it was like meant to be, couldn't be done. And like, it's pretty windy and stuff, but he got it up there. But he had a fully electric one that he was meant to be a hoon around in. He's got like the hooning in or something.
00:50:05
Speaker
And the sound it made was one of the worst things I've ever heard when that electric motor like went to like eleven it was just it was like banshees like screaming at you. And that was the old sirens trying to find his name. I can only imagine how bad it must have been actually in the car let alone me listening to it through a YouTube video but.
00:50:26
Speaker
I might you saw like the way they sat like and it was just like you see like they had the split view and it's like foot to the ground and then the dude in the passenger seat just like almost knocks himself out. I might I really need the men so I might just take a quick break at that point. I've got something else to say on the car topic which we're not a car channel so I don't know why we're talking about it but I'll come back to it. It's all tech related. We'll make it related somehow.
00:50:53
Speaker
It'll be like 30 minutes of recording then 30 minutes of dead air or just the logo with the audio over the top and then 30 minutes. Such an amateur thing. So yes, we're back. But yeah, when the video released to YouTube, I wasn't happy with the sharpness of the image from the last one. So I'm using a much bigger camera, but it doesn't have a flippy floppy screen.
00:51:16
Speaker
So there's no way to see what the fuck I'm filming because I've got the camera in a cupboard and using my phone to try and see what's on the screen behind the camera is very difficult. To finish off the topic on cars, I don't know why I ended up talking about cars, but it interests me and fuck you all.
00:51:36
Speaker
These days, even like a V8, so if you look at the AMG Mercedes Benz V8s, right? So they've been V8 twin turbos for a long, long time. They started at six and a half liters. Then they went to five and a half liters, or 6.7, I think they were. Then they went to five and a half litre twin turbos. They're now down to four litre twin turbos, and they're putting out more torque and more power output than the old ones.
00:52:01
Speaker
But because the engines are getting smaller, you're not getting that V8 grunt that everybody wants. And it's not just Mercedes, it's also BMW and Audi and all the other big manufacturers. They're now tuning the sound, the firewall resonating frequencies and the exhaust resonating frequencies to pipe engine noise into the cabin
00:52:27
Speaker
that is totally different to the noise that anyone sitting on the sideline can hear as the car passes. Yeah. Yeah, but fuck those people outside. Well, you kind of want a little bit of that, but you want, I mean, that's why you drive. Having worked on King Street for five plus years now, believe me, they want the people on the street to hear it. Especially since we're right near a set of like a big like intersection with a set of red lights and they just
00:52:51
Speaker
Oh, the amount of guys who rent cars and drive down King Street in Newtown. Just to be tossed bag. And it's like, look at my Lamborghini. Beautiful cars. Not his. He's rented it. Definitely. But there's like six of them in a row and then they go.
00:53:03
Speaker
You know what's funny about those guys? None of them can fucking drive. No, no. They can go very, very fast in a straight line at the next road. Yeah. Why drive 30 meters down the road? Through Newtown. It's like the, the most dense stop start. Yeah. The most dense street. But George Street was his home. You always used to get the Lambos and the Ferraris down George Street. Oh yes. Look how small my cock is. That's all it's ever been about. Fucking drive it to Wollongong. If you're going to do that, get out on the freeway.
00:53:28
Speaker
But as two out of three of us used to own Harley's and Dan was very much more a Harley owner than I ever was, but we owned Harley's. It's a case of you want loud pipes so the guy in the Camry that doesn't check his blind spot knows you're there and doesn't drive over you changing lanes. But then when you're in suburbia pulling up at like the local shops to have a coffee, you really wish your pipes are a little quieter. This is why I haven't bought another one yet because I don't want to, I want to ride it to work.
00:53:56
Speaker
You don't want to be that obnoxious guy, because we're at that age where... We're up to 20 to 6 this morning. I don't want to be rolling. And I live on a little bit of a hill. I can at least roll it down and go around the corner. That's why I need to get one of the new Mustangs, because they have the quiet mode. Oh, really? Just flick it until you get out of the street. Yeah. Well, I used to have an old... Speaking of, you're driving, aren't you? Yes. All the cars are like that now with the ports in the exhaust, so you can turn the exhaust sound down.
00:54:22
Speaker
So it's just amazing. Yeah, but nothing's, nothing's ever going to be mild. I had a 79 XB Ford XB and that fuck. I love driving that thing. I wish I, I wish I had the money at the age that I had it to keep it because I paid nothing for it. And it probably only needed 10 grand's worth of work and you can't get one now for level money, 40 grand. Yeah. Wow. And I paid five grand for it.
00:54:49
Speaker
And ridiculous. Ridiculousness. And it needed... I was just too young. I didn't have the money to keep it. The insurance was ridiculous. But it was an absolutely amazing car to drive. I loved it. I don't think any new car I will ever drive will ever replicate that old muscle car.
00:55:09
Speaker
The weight of the body and the, it did have power steering, but it was very early on rudimentary power steering. Um, but it just, the weight and the size and the sound and the feel. And I've been trying to explain this to Emma. So I've got this, I call it.
00:55:24
Speaker
This is turning into a car podcast. I got it one because it was bright green. So I called it Hulk. Uh, and to, uh, it was Mad Max car. It was the interceptor V8 interceptor. Pop culture reference. That's actually why I bought it. I'm talking about a Netflix series that I enjoy. There we go. I'm leading into that, which is a pop culture reference. Nailed it. We're doing really well guys. Uh, but it's not.
00:55:49
Speaker
I, um, I watched this show. I don't know if you guys ever seen it come up. It's called Rust Valley Restores and it's my guilty pleasure show and Emma laughs at it, but then she sits there and she gets engrossed in it. It's one of those things. I can't talk about my guilty pleasure because no one will ever look at me the same way.
00:56:03
Speaker
Probably not. It's set in like deep South British Columbia, Canada. And it's this dude who's got this giant yard of 400 old muscle cars. It's on Netflix. Yeah. That was a good set. Speaking to the soul. Yeah. But it's like, it's just that thing of like, I've always wanted to own an old muscle car and I drive a little shitty Fiesta and she's been good to me for 10 years, but you know, she's getting, she's getting on the old Festy Beaver.
00:56:32
Speaker
Yeah, I'd love to have a little like, just an old muscle car. Just that feel of the, it's the, it's the weight of the like the steel going around corners. I was lucky enough to rent a Camaro SS in Boston. I've never had as much fun driving a current one or an old, old school one. One of the new ones. And even that, that's kind of the problem in Australia, like the, when the, um, what are they? You see them everywhere now. The fucking, my brain's not working at the moment. Uh, SRTs.
00:57:01
Speaker
No, nothing. Oh, the Holdens with the Chevy badges? No, that's a weird thing. That's just a fast. No, they're not Camaros. Oh, the Chrysler's? No, well, you've got the 300C. That was a muscle car that came out to Australia. Yeah, the cops have got them now. You do have a little mini computer right there with you that you can probably find out what exactly the fuck you're talking about. I prefer to segue into something that's actually on top of it now.
00:57:27
Speaker
The beer, the beer. Yes, let's talk about the beer, please. Before you go there, I completely agree. The V8 that I had, the ridiculousness, the front seats were beautiful. The back seat was comfy too, but you could not get
00:57:43
Speaker
It was, it was only about two or three inches of back floor space between the seat was huge, but you couldn't get your feet in. I, I literally had to turn my feet sideways to get my feet in the back and then you'd get under the front seat and then you could turn it back forward again. It's just ridiculousness. They'd only needed two seats.
00:58:01
Speaker
But anyway, excellent cars. Drive on if you can. What do you drink of? This is a garage project from New Zealand. Wonderful, wonderful brewery. This is the Penisius Weed, the user version. Penisius Weed is one of their big dank hot bomb IPAs. And this one, they've added a whole bunch of user zest too. The wonderful, wonderful artwork.
00:58:31
Speaker
I don't know if the camera can see that, but let's hope it can. Very few people do proper IPAs this good. Yeah. It's fucking top. Big bitterness, but not, not, not harsh bitterness, but like solid, like big, big bitterness.
00:58:47
Speaker
Fresh hops for a New Zealand beer that's traveled. This is the super fresh release as well. I think the guys at the Sackville said that this had come in last week. But even so, to travel across the ditch on a boat. Yeah, there's no oxidization to it. No, nothing. It hasn't got that sickly sweet body that a lot of the American made American IPOs have.
00:59:12
Speaker
It's got that real bitter acidity to it too, that you expect out of a solid IPA. The hops they use, Nelson Southern and Raquel. Yeah, no, that's very tasty. It's got just a little bit of juicy, but it's not overly juicy. I find a lot of IPAs in Australia these days, you get the hop hit and it's just over the top hop hit. And then you just get like fucking tropical juice. Everything's triple dry, double dry, quadruple dry hop to these days. Cause that's what people want to,
00:59:41
Speaker
But then IPAs in Australia have segwayed kind of into Neepers. You almost don't get pure IPAs as much as you get Neepers these days. I think that's why that batch. The hazy boys. Why the batch, Simco IPA spoke to me so much. Yeah. It was just, it was a good single hop West Coast IPA. Yeah. It was just good. It's just not, it's just the extremism in beer in Australia at the moment.
01:00:06
Speaker
That is definitely a pallet killer, though. That's why I said that. Yeah, that's why we finished. It's also eight percent. I wanted to think with too much nuance after that, because it's not going to come through. You would taste it. I mean, they end their little their little blurb. They have prophecy. In the future, all IPAs will have fruit in them. Original cult classic panisius weed, now in delicious yuzu flavor.
01:00:27
Speaker
super sour, fresh yuzu zest and freshly squeezed juice collide head on with Nelson's oven and rack out in a giant, foamy, super golden, fruity citrus hot bomb explosion. It shouldn't taste this good, but it does. Just for shits and giggles. That's awesome. And perfect description for what we were just finished talking about, right? It's a traditional IPA without all the bells and whistles and bullshit.
01:00:50
Speaker
Yep. And so few done these days. Yeah. Bring back the West coast. Bring back the West coast. Hashtag bring back the West coast. There we go. There's one to start. Everybody spam your local brewers. Yeah. All their social media. Hashtag bring back the West coast. Yep. I'll throw that up in our Insta post. There you go. There's the episode title for you.
01:01:14
Speaker
And we've been strangely unblest by podcast cat tonight. It's probably the first episode in 10 that nudged a bit. They're kicking around. Ginger Minge. Someone was going to talk about, once again, another Star Wars topic. And the other series that are going to spin off from that.
01:01:32
Speaker
Yeah, so Mando season two is out at the end of the month, so we're what, half a week and a half? There it is. This is not the wrong one. That's Loki, the god of mischief and he will bring mischief. So we got Mando season two coming at the end of the month in a couple of weeks time and they're already, so they'll be filming season three before Christmas.
Mandalorian Season 2 Excitement
01:01:57
Speaker
Really? So in October, they've really got about six or seven weeks. So I read an article from Pedro talking about how the pandemic wasn't really a surprise to him subconsciously, but it was kind of weird. But then everyone's wearing masks and filming the series anyway. So it really wasn't much of an issue for them. And with all the screen technology they're using really hasn't impacted them at all. Yeah, right.
01:02:23
Speaker
which I think is cool. I mean, it's going to be at least one, cause there's going to be a gap. This reminds me kind of the writer strike back in the early 2000s where just every TV series just went off the air for a couple of years. Always really bad for a couple of seasons. It was written by like film school students suddenly took over writing. Cause the, uh, the writer's guilds was on strike for some reason. They wanted to be paid more or something or more and more.
01:02:49
Speaker
More, I don't know. It was probably pay related, but I think they wanted more, um, uh, like headlines in the credits or something like that. And fair enough. I mean, if you're the guy writing the story, man, but, um, but Favreau and, and, uh, Filoni, we're, we're talking about the possibility of a Mandalorian movie because someone asked them the question and they've basically, they haven't confirmed the movie or anything crazy. They've just said they haven't ruled it out. Yeah.
01:03:14
Speaker
And then they went on to describe that the line between a TV series and a movie these days doesn't really exist for them. So, you know, they could easily segue in, they could do two or three seasons of Mando and then go into a Mandalorian movie and then segue straight back into another two or three seasons and it would just be, I told you his name's Loki for a reason.
01:03:35
Speaker
So you've got to watch that making of, even if you just watch the one episode where they show the screens. Is it on Disney plus? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's called the gallery. Yeah. Okay. I'll have to watch it. All of the episodes are really great. Um, the music one I found incredibly interesting as well. But if you just watch the one with the screens, everything you're talking about now will be a thousand times more clear.
01:04:00
Speaker
Yeah, okay. And just the technology that they have and what they actually do with those screens and how little they actually physically have there, even though it looks like everything is there. Yeah, yeah. And it does look very authentic. Like it's an authentic Western, right? It looks like a traditional soundstage that they used to set up for those Western movies.
01:04:23
Speaker
first time I watched, uh, episode two, where he's got taking the child back to the ship and he walks through the canyon where the trend oceans attack.
01:04:34
Speaker
I said to Louise, I wonder where they filmed this. Like I wonder what country they went to to get this, like the actual location. Yeah. It's all fucking digital. Everything
Disney Plus Series Production
01:04:47
Speaker
is digital. And even yet it's not poxy, obvious digital that ruins the movie. Even the, the show.
01:04:55
Speaker
The shot where he turns his head and you see the reflection in the helmet of the Trandoshan jumping over, that was on the screen that reflected in his helmet that they were filming. So that's what a couple of the VFX artists have done things as well, saying with someone with such reflective armor, that there's so little post,
01:05:24
Speaker
around that they have to do. So it's just time. It's money. It's, and this is what we were talking about off air earlier was now they've spent all this money. Now they use it. They're building more of those studios. They're building one here to film four, four. Yeah. Okay. So they're building one here and another one in America. If they're using it for, um, Shang-Chi, they could be. Yeah. It wouldn't surprise me. Send you guys that photo of the dude and
01:05:50
Speaker
The Shang-Chi set or the crew shirt. He was in my car talking to DJ. It's just like, I went up to us and I was like, tell us something. He's like, no, they're all okay. Hardcore. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, but like, so they're not, they're not ruling out a movie. And we were talking before we started recording that it's very like, I mean, they've already confirmed in a Soka spinoff series, but,
01:06:15
Speaker
They, you know, Disney Plus is open to whatever is popular in the series is quite likely to spawn a spinoff. Yep. And we're at a point where at $13 million an episode for the TV series, it's actually not hard to see how you could end up. It's now more expensive to make the TV series than it is to do the movie.
01:06:34
Speaker
Yeah. But then you go and look at what they were doing for Game of Thrones and it was like something ridiculous, like a hundred million because they were filming in different, four different countries. And then you got to fly the fucking, the cars there and shit. But then they were making a shit ton of money out of that.
01:06:52
Speaker
Yeah, but imagine now that they're going to be spending a 10th of that budget on each episode filming in one location and doing some amount of visuals. Yeah. So, I mean, it's, it's just, and then making that money on top of that. I mean, if they make that money on top of that and then reinvest it in other better things and advancing all that, I mean, we all win. I mean, this is what, this is why we do this shit for these guys to create this.
01:07:18
Speaker
And
Expansion of the Star Wars Universe
01:07:19
Speaker
the fact that the lines graying between TV and movies can only benefit us as watchers, as viewers. He's going to start chewing the cables in a minute. This is what happens when podcast strikes.
01:07:34
Speaker
So the one other, have we spoken about Bad Batch on here? No. We briefly touched it. So Pete, you wouldn't know the Bad Batch. They're from season seven of Clone Wars. They are... You have talked about it though. Yeah. So they are the Squad 99, which is a reference to earlier in Clone Wars.
01:08:02
Speaker
And they're, they're basically clones that they tried, the Kaminoans tried to do different things with them. So hyper intelligent, um, the super fast reflexes, extra strength, strength, super soldiers, super soldiers. Yeah. But they're, but they're the bad batch because they only made one of them and they, they all ended up in the one squad and they're kind of the, yeah, the, the, the outcast offshoots. Uh, and,
01:08:31
Speaker
The rumor is the podcast is falling apart. It is just because Loki's knocking shit and rubbing your face on every microphone. We move the camera to get it away from Loki's asshole and then he walks to the opposite side of the table to rub his face against it.
01:08:49
Speaker
Anyway. So the Bad Batch is coming, the series is out next year in animated, fully animated, same as Clone Wars, but they're- So it's its own series now? It's its own series. But there is talks, no, they haven't released much information, but there is talks that could potentially be in line with Order 66 and then post Order 66. Yeah, cool. And how they reacted to the order and what happened afterwards.
01:09:17
Speaker
Filoni was saying that there is, there is a void. Now that they've finished the start, the Skywalker series, there is a void to fill in the Star Wars universe and they haven't really settled on what they're going to do next as a major, the major storyline. And really with the success of Mando, the fact that they're already doing an offshoot for Ahsoka, they really don't need to fill the void to make the same cash.
01:09:39
Speaker
And to me doing more live-action series along the lines of of Mando, just in the sense that they can do a series with an aesthetic specific to the character, they can go and explore various side characters pretty easily now. It's just a better outcome for us as viewers.
01:09:58
Speaker
They don't have to be what we've been clamoring for the entire time was always more live-action Star Wars. And they don't have to spend six years thinking and planning and writing and then executing before it makes it to screen. It doesn't have to be a six-year gap between someone going, you know what would be a cool idea to some poor bastard sitting in a theater and paying for a ticket. Now that's 12 months and you're,
01:10:19
Speaker
I mean the fact that they're releasing Mando season 2 at the end of October and they're filming season 3 before Christmas, there's really not much lag going on anymore. And I think the technology is very much supporting that but it's also being driven, the tech is being driven forward by the demands of what they're trying to achieve. It's the first time ever we've had both cats on screen at the same time. I think they were up last time. Right at the end.
01:10:44
Speaker
But yeah, and all driven by Filoni and Favreau. Yeah. So. Oh, Dave Filoni is one of the best things that's happened to Star Wars. Oh, a hundred percent. Big time. His knowledge is ridiculous. Yeah.
Online Presence and Acknowledgments
01:10:55
Speaker
So. How do we end up with two cats? You want two cats and we're filming your hands? Are we going to anything else to take us out or are we going to end here? I feel like we're being taken over. This is an invasion. This is an invasion.
01:11:09
Speaker
They just want pats. That's all they want. They're just going person to person. I don't know why suddenly tonight, Loki's decided to be the attention whore, but I think we might end the episode on that note. Cat's asshole, Cam.
01:11:25
Speaker
Do we need any, is there any housekeeping to be done? Go and check out our YouTube episode, YouTube channel if you haven't already. All the episodes that we'll be doing from now on or last episode onwards will be up on YouTube. Piss off. Yeah. And we're on Spotify and everywhere else for audio only podcasts, which is kind of not a thing anymore. So.
01:11:50
Speaker
The only other thing is if you want some of the tasty beers we had, go check out the Sackville bottle shop. Last episode, we got them all from the union bottle shop. So I think we should throw some shout outs to the guys who are supplying us good beer. Yeah. And we're on untapped. So if you look up pixels and pints on untapped, if you want to see exactly what we're trying, it's up on every episode list anyway. But if you want to see the full back catalog of everything we have reviewed so far, it's up on untapped. Cool. Anyway, thanks for watching and listening. Thanks. See you next time.
01:12:44
Speaker
Bye bye. Bye.