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Pokemon Tier List: Generations 2 & 3
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NOTE: Unfortunately due to technical issues, the audio may not be to the usual standard.
In this episode of Chatsunami, Satsunami and friend of the channel Craigy C take on Generations 2 and 3 of the Pokemon franchise to rate their top choices. Do you agree with our choices? Please feel free to reach out and let us know!
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Transcript
Introduction and Technical Issues
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of Chatsunami. Just a heads up before you go into this episode, unfortunately we ran into some technical issues while filming this episode, so the audio this time around might sound a little bit echoey. Without any further ado, hope you enjoy.
Hosts' Introduction and Humor
00:00:23
Speaker
Welcome to Chatsunami.
00:00:35
Speaker
Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of Chatsunami. My name is Chatsunami and joining me today to break into my home is the one and only, Craigie C. Craigie C welcome. For legal reasons that's a joke. I will see. I was a bit like a vampire, I've been invited into your home.
00:00:56
Speaker
You say that to get you brought Godzilla versus King Ghidorah and onion memes over my flesh also. But we'll see how the evening goes. Yeah, how are you doing today,
Main Topic Introduction: Pokémon Ranking
00:01:06
Speaker
Craigiezy? Yeah, pretty good, pretty good. How are you? Not too shabby because we are indeed talking about a very special topic today. We are going to be talking about something that, I think by the time this episode comes out, will be very topical. That of course being the one and only Indie Gem you might have heard of.
00:01:23
Speaker
Well, Pokemon. It's a bit of a hidden gem, so if you haven't heard of Pokemon, that's fine. It'll be there to catch up. I think it's actually pronounced Pokemon. Oh, but okay. Yeah, it's like, it's original dialect. Ed West, I've just got one.
00:01:39
Speaker
Yeah, today we're going to be doing something a
Tier List Project Overview
00:01:41
Speaker
little bit different. As you can hear, we are doing this in person. You can always tell. You can always tell. And yeah, we are going to be doing something very special. We are going to be doing a tier list, which is something that, take a seat, you have been telling me for ages. I've wanted to do this for ages. Yeah, you have been telling me, oh, we should get this done, we should do it, and let's get it done. So do you want to explain to the lovely listeners what we're
Ranking Criteria Explanation
00:02:05
Speaker
going to be doing today?
00:02:05
Speaker
Okay, so we're going to be looking at Pokémon Generation 2 and 3, and we're going to be ranking them in a tier list. I think for me personally, I'm only going to be ranking them purely based on first instinct and looks. I'm going to try and disregard competitive sites. I don't really understand any of that in Pokémon 7. I'm one of these people that is very like, I'll pick Pokémon I like, maybe a couple of powerful ones, but I like Podagon for God's sake. Who uses Podagon in the competitive scene? I just want my digital ducks back.
00:02:37
Speaker
What was the answer? I don't know. He won't return my phone.
00:02:53
Speaker
We're going to be ranking these Pokemon on a tier list using the tiermaker.com as well. Connectively we have, it's into different categories. So we're going to have right at the very top, we have the Satsuit approved card. These are like the most Pokemon of Pokemon.
00:03:09
Speaker
We love these ones and they look amazing. And obviously A, B and C. And then the last lowest ranking possible, Yoda Oma likes this programme. This is the lowest of the low. This is like the lowest Dante's Inferno tier of Hell that we can actually put these things in. So with any further ado, while we get started.
00:03:28
Speaker
Let's do it. So I will note that this unfortunately won't be a video, this will be purely audio based, but on the plus side I will be posting this to the website podspage.com or slash chat tsunami.
Tier List Access Information
00:03:41
Speaker
So if you want to check out the full list, please feel free. And yeah, with anything further to do, we'll just dive into it. Let's go for it. So our first one is Checkerita.
00:03:53
Speaker
which I'm gonna be honest, I'm feeling a C. It's cute but it's definitely my least favourite of the starters. I'd say probably C. I don't want it. See, this is the thing, like, chikorita is a walking meme.
00:04:08
Speaker
Yeah, there's different pages, like, you know, meme pages. I know, but imagine me for going to meme pages. But there's meme pages with like, ooh, you like Chikurita? Because compared to the others, you know, I will be very vocal about Two of Sides. Two of Sides starters, but Chikurita is kind of one of those ones that
00:04:29
Speaker
It's not well-liked, but C at the same time, I don't think it's as bad as everyone says. No. I mean, considering some of the more recent generations that came after this, it's not the worst starter. No. This is a hot take in the night. Come at me. Come at me. Probably go to reasons that's a joke. So, where would you say? Would you say C? I think I agree on C. C for Chikorita. Okay, our first Pokemon, C for Chikorita. Now, we have the next one, Bea Leaf, who is... I would say that's a subtle B.
00:04:55
Speaker
Yeah, I think so too. It's quite Pokemon. I like the leaf. I guess it has a bay leaf actually on its head, I guess. I don't know if that actually is or not. But I think it's fun. It needs to be designed. So the next one we've got is Meganium. And Meganium is the final evolution. I would say probably... I don't know.
00:05:13
Speaker
because it's quite cute and it's like a quite cute dino wonderful tiny thing to deal with. I think it's definitely the movement on chicken retail. I don't know if it's better than Bailey's though. I think Bailey's is the better thing. Maybe C? I don't know. There's nothing going to stop us moving around as we change our mind on these things. Something I want to mention as well that we actually forgot to point out is we won't be taking mega evolutions to consider it. Just in case you were thinking, oh I can't wait for mega tyranitar or something to
00:05:42
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Check this off, it's like, no, no. Your mall slash da likes this.
00:05:48
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Pokemon's on a non-quoted. Okay, Senderkraut. This is a lot of people's favorites. Yep. Spoilers, not mine. So where would you put Senderkraut? I think it's an A. I think Senderkraut's cute. He's got to be faced. He's definitely like one of the most expressive and I think there's a reason he's probably the more featured of the three. Yeah. In terms of his Pokemon arses. Yeah, in arses. I think he's cute. I like him. I don't think he's quite top to the International approval level, but definitely a A for me. Here you go.
00:06:16
Speaker
Yep, I'd agree with that. So we have got, well, Wabla? This is the one I never know how to say. Like in Balocha Wabla. I would personally say this would probably be tear, maybe. I'd have to go as far as saying, see, I think, I just don't think it's, I don't get it. Yeah, no, I'm the same. It's one of those ones I've never thought is
00:06:39
Speaker
really strong yeah i think it's all right but yeah no i'll go see then go for it for this we are speaking through this speed run okay typhlosion well okay i did have it before we start recording i said i have it i have a complaint about typhlosion on the screen as you can see on the screen we are looking at sprites however this is the coldest hot take this is not a hot take at all typhlosion's 3d model is terrible
00:07:05
Speaker
Right. Oh yes. The flames, the main of flames are amazing. The sprite's got this sharp face. It's angry. And then the 3D model to me is always very plain, very dopey looking. So it's play though. Yeah, it looks soft and spunny and just sad. So if we're going purely on the sprite on the screen, you know what to think? It must be taken from up to Generation V anyway. Yeah, it's clearer than the Game Boy Advancements but it's still that sprite look. I would go B for Typhlosion.
00:07:33
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Or maybe A, if it's the one, they currently want it straight onto your Dalek to spoke of. I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I feel as if they only think taking it down to B as the 3D model. On the sprite alone, I would definitely give it an A. I'm comfortable with that. I'm comfortable with A. Hopefully, because I know there'll be a lot of fans listening.
00:07:54
Speaker
Satio approved for me, yep, yep, looking up as Totodile, and straight up the Satio approved. Totodile was my first, fun fact about this, Totodile was actually my very first chosen starter, because my very first game was Pokemon Yellow, so I didn't get a choice between Squirtle, Bulbasaur, Charmander, I should remember that because they were right in front of me.
00:08:15
Speaker
And yeah, chose it. Absolute love to today. I love the evolution line. But for the second one, Crocanaw. I'm going to go even as far as C to be honest. B or C. I am not a fan by the way.
00:08:29
Speaker
I actually, this is my favourite middle evolution. It is. Because I like the wee caveman thing he's got going on. It doesn't fit in at all with the evolution line. But I like his little, as he puts it, bam bam. Let's do this code. I'd like to go B. He said BZ. He'll compromise with that. After Mick compared to what's coming next, which I'm going to be honest, I really wanted to be such.
00:08:53
Speaker
Have you seen the backsplacing? I don't know, for alligators banter for a few reasons. One, it's a giant crocodile, you little ladies. You eat the giant buns or whatever it's supposed to be. The backsprite on the Gen 2 games has got like us cheeks. I don't know what it's supposed to be. I've never understood it. Feels like I'm wearing.
00:09:11
Speaker
I don't know. And then also the fact that the name was too long for the game so they just cut half the name off the back, like just for alligator. Yeah, for alligator. So yeah, I'm happy to put that in. So that's approved. So we are out of staff to territory and we are on the same trip. I'm gonna go see, I never really like, I'm never really super attached to these like the normal ones you get at the start. So I'll go for that. Now Father, what I'll say is, have you seen the meme for this?
00:09:39
Speaker
where they had like a woodpawn, climbing the escalator, that's the thing that's...
00:09:45
Speaker
That was my exact same reason. Design alone, you would have been straight into your da like this Pokémon. But the ferret walking on the escalator every day until Pokémon Sword and Shield came out and raised my opinion on this Pokémon show. I like to put it in C. In C of really? Not even a B. No, it doesn't go that high. It's just wacky and kind of complicated. I love the theme music. B, C.
00:10:11
Speaker
I think, I like hook hook because it's a bit different than the other buds. Like it's Rowan, he's kind of a friend. I think B. But yeah, he's very distinctive. Yeah. Like the wee time sort of clock faces got on as well. I think there's a lot to hook hook hook. Not at all.
00:10:27
Speaker
I think Noctaille gets worse at Hoot Hoot. He does look like an owl. But he looks like an owl. Hoot Hoot looks like a cute owl. When you were told on your wrists, which I actually have done, even with a tiny owl, we are terrified.
00:10:44
Speaker
And it was a terrifying don't hold up. Completely off topic, but you and I of course went to a very small Comic Con and there was a part, it was even associated with the Comic Con, it was just like this thing at the side where people were allowing you to come up and get your picture taken with an ooh and you could hold it and I remember the like, it was like a teenage boy who like gave me the gun and everything and I looked at his arms and his arms were
00:11:10
Speaker
And he's just like, you could go and I'm like, can I back out? Can I get my flight plan back? And I mean, I even, I took a small while because I'm, I don't want to say free clearance. I'm thinking the ones that were nearly half my size. I was like,
00:11:27
Speaker
I'm just like, have you putters messed up if you think that's what they keep saying pet to have? I'm like, you know, anyway, sorry if that's what you want to see. Yeah, I'm happy to see you. I might contradict myself later, but I'm not a massive fan of just like, this is the animal. Yeah. Pokemon. I want them to have a little bit of a funny. Okay, weird about this.
00:11:45
Speaker
I'm going to go see. And this next one, you might disagree with this one, but this is the first one I want to say. So this is the evolution of Ladybox. It's called Ladyum. Lady luck. Straight into detail for me. Straight into your Daleks. I don't like his design.
00:12:01
Speaker
Well, not even like the first of course has got to go wrong. I don't get it. I just, I don't understand how Ladybug turns into Megaman. I just never understood it. It shouldn't be that it's cooler. I don't know how, it just makes it worse to me. I mean, it loses two. Oh no, that's like Snippet. Okay, fine. You're a morsel, I don't know. Okay, I just want to put your tambour likes this, but we'll go with big ones. I don't like Spider.
00:12:29
Speaker
I don't like it. He thinks that I don't like it. But he does. Spinarak does have like a little cute face on his butt. Okay, C then. Not in the middle. He might be freaking us out, but I like Pokémon. I look kind of like a friend. Like, would I like to own this Pokémon? Spinarak? Yeah, probably. He's pretty funny. Yeah, I would go for C. So what do you think of this Pokémon, which is called... Ariados? Ariados. What do you think Ariados fits in with? I would go for C as well.
00:12:54
Speaker
terrifying but maybe a bee, to be honest. I don't like, as I said, I don't like spiders but my personal bias aside, he is quite threatening, he's got the things on, he's got the pincers. That was pincers by the way for Odeon. I like bee for him, I like bee. He's not as bright, he's got like the different, he looks a bit different, he's got those two big prongs on his back, I like him.
00:13:16
Speaker
OK, we'll go for B. Maybe controversial, but the next one is Crobat. I would put him at A, to be honest. Ooh. A or B? Definitely. Because I feel as if compared to Gobat, which is like the big hanging mouth and the... And the fact is, as you were saying, you like friendship, Pokémon. You can only evolve Gobat to Crobat through high enough friendship. So it's friendship. Mm, you've convinced me to just put him in this room for the other day. That needs purple.
00:13:56
Speaker
It's like Mickey Mouse if he was brought up in the deep sea.
00:14:01
Speaker
It is... Chinchou. You just made that up. I don't know. So the one thing I do like about Chinchou is the eyes, the little plus signs. So it's like electrical batteries. But apart from that, I don't really get it. If you're honest, go for C. C. I feel like I've got my heavy load in C here. It's going to break into your dam or like Pokemon. The next one is London.
00:14:24
Speaker
go for a B or C. Yeah, I like him a B. I think he's a bit more dopey. He's kind of funny. I like his tail. I like the colour of his job. I like the colour of his job. I definitely have my job. P2. I don't know how to rank P2 at all. This is one of my favourite generations, don't get me wrong, but they made the really weird choice of introducing baby
00:14:44
Speaker
Pokemon and I feel as if they're entirely unnecessary. Like I feel as if they had a baby Pokemon and then they had the evolution of the same region. That would be fine but they retroactively went back and they were like, oh, we want Pichu to Pikachu, we want the next ones, Clefah to Clefairy, Iglibuf to Tigray. Thank you. So I'd say maybe it's here.
00:15:08
Speaker
Yeah. I think it's my favourite of the three, the babies. Well, which puts it to be then? No. I'm looking at the other things again, I'm like, no. I don't like it more than chikorito. Yeah, okay. So far, I collate. That's clever.
00:15:24
Speaker
I'm actually tempted to put this in your da. At this point, put this in your da like for me. I don't go for it right now. I actually think Iglaebuff as well. My reason being is like, I think... Yeah, Iglaevarian Jigglypuff, a cute baby-ish Pokémon already. I think Iglaebuff is a massive downgrade from Jigglypuff in that line, so that's kind of my thinking. Next one, Togepi. I would be tempted to say A or B. I was actually going to say... I was going to say... I don't want to push it, but it is very iconic.
00:15:54
Speaker
Yeah, I got it. It was like the first one from the Gen and the Animus apart from... Don't fan, I can't remember. No, no, I think it did. He's just a wee egg dude. He's just having to be here. He's loving his wife. He is loving his wife.
00:16:11
Speaker
I'm actually going to go the complete opposite end of the spectrum. I think this is all you darlings. It's got a hate to it. I don't understand it. I like the idea. What is the idea of it? It's like that egg you left in the cupboard. You kind of forgot about it and then rotated. Anyway, Natu. Go on. Natu is a friend. Look at how round Bob is. You can also destroy your brain from the inside. Kind of crazy. B? I like a B from here.
00:16:41
Speaker
Zatch is one that when I was younger I never really got the theme of it and it was like to do with like the totems and everything now that you look at it. But obviously when he's like that when he's got his wings up but for some reason they've got artwork of him just with his wings down. Yeah usually you see the wings down as if.
00:17:03
Speaker
I would say B or C. Yeah, I think I'd go C. I think he needs to be more totem pole, more bits. I don't know if it was just a fan thing, but I've seen a Mega for that and it does have really distinct totem things. It needs to look amazing. Okay, next one. I'm going to go Satsu to you. I was going to say A, so I'm going to go Satsu to you. I don't know. I just have fond memories of catching this sheep and just saying he's an electric sheep. Have you seen the plushie as well? It's like a giant plushie. Yes.
00:17:30
Speaker
I want it so bad. If I had to that much this possible income I would. Pokemon comes onto this podcast and we can buy plushies. I will review it. I will do a face review and review.
00:17:43
Speaker
I will. Don't threaten me with a good time. Okay, Flaffy? That'd seem to be A or B. I'm gonna go... I think A. And I like it. It's pink in his eyes. He's not as good as married, but... Yeah, I would go for Santa if I were to go for Ambrose. Yeah, Ambrose is a great designer. I don't know why I love that. That was like one of my core team members in Pokemon Silver and I love him.
00:18:05
Speaker
It's such a weird evolution line, isn't it? I'm just looking at all three in the same picture here. That is such a strong evolution line. All three designs are fantastically funny. No, absolutely. So next we've got Blossom. Blossom's a weird one for me. I don't really understand what it fits in in the grand scheme of everything else, you know what I mean? Is it a baby book one? No, no, it's evolved from glue.
00:18:28
Speaker
Oh, so it was! Yes, and you get a sunstone, and instead of involving a tobacco, it evolves into blossom. So it does. How do you be? I like the design. I think it's cute. I think it's... I like to be skirt. I like to be there. I'm gonna go with you. Maro. I would say satsu. Pee-wee peek-a-blue. Yeah, peek-a-blue himself. Maro. I don't know. Maro. He's French-shaped. He's blue. He's like Mickey Mouse, but not as threatening.
00:18:56
Speaker
I'm not gonna argue with that. What the hell went on?
00:19:00
Speaker
I don't know. Oh yeah, how do I make this cuter? Turn it into an egg. Is it supposed to be? So Mario's supposed to be like a mouse and then is it supposed to be like a rabbit? Is that? Yeah, like a rabbit. The only thing I will say is I like, I think it's as little as the audio level, like the shiny form. Oh, okay. Which is pretty neat. But Mario has like a green one, which I like. Why? Why would you spoil a good design? Anyway, yeah, I would say B maybe.
00:19:26
Speaker
I had to, mate, go see. I don't really get him. Whatever. Next boy up on the pack, Sudowoodo. Iconic. I would either go A or Satsu approved. You know what? I'm going to give him Satsu approved. Stamp. Because he's the jiggle. The jiggle, the jiggle. The jiggle. The fact he's a tree. The fact that he's typing makes no sense. It's like wrong. It's really funny to me as well. Just the whole thing about him. There's a lot of joy that Sudowoodo brings me. Poetry.
00:19:54
Speaker
I don't get polytoad. Neither. Because I have to admit, the poly, like, polywag, polywirrow, polywrath, they are some of my favourite. Yeah. Like polywirrow is special. That is one of the iconic ones when you think of Pokémon, isn't it? Polytoads, keep it in nowhere. Yeah, I don't really. It's like that awkward, like, relative family get-together that stands in the corner and you're like, who are you getting? It's like, I'm polytoad.
00:20:20
Speaker
I don't like that he's green. I notice that she produces a frog and I get it with Paulie singing. Can I put him in? I'm not going to argue that. Okay, I'm just saying it right now. The next day I would say the Bologna de Marlifo. Pop-up, jump-off and... What was I, Skipplin' jump-off? What was your favourite out of the three? Probably jump-off, to be honest. I hope that they just have horrible memories of the fact that you know, Splash.
00:20:49
Speaker
I've never got a look at that. It's like, why do you know Splash? I get you're meant to be all fine on the wound, but you're... Yeah, I'm happy for all three of these to go into. Let's just skip ahead of you. Yeah, we do. We don't need this. Yeah, nah, I like all those, we'll go on. A-Pom, I ain't ever done actually see. E, or should I say to you?
00:21:08
Speaker
I'd like to go A. I don't think he's quite satisfied at all. Maybe for you, but I think he's... Yeah, no, I get that. He's cool, but he's not iconic, you know what I mean? That's what I think. Next one. How do you rate Songkran? Look at him. Can we put him at C? Because I feel as though we'll make him cry.
00:21:28
Speaker
I don't want to make you cry. I don't want to be a bit of a sea. Sam Flora. I remember he had an Annoying as Hell song in the fall. He just kept repeating his name over and over again like some kind of CIA black spot. A black sighted delegation. What's that? Tell me where the other people are. Sam Flora gets away. Please, no more. Where do you want to put Sam Flora? Half of that explanation.
00:21:52
Speaker
He's a sunflower. What can you do with a sunflower? What? Am I supposed to take that to the Pokemon League? Seriously? Who takes sunflower if there's any sunflower that stands out there?
00:22:06
Speaker
All two of you. Come message me and let me know because I would love to know what goes on in your mind. So when Pokemon Sword and Shield started coming out and they were getting angry about Diggs, it was quite weird. Pokedixing. Someone's like, one Pokemon is someone's favourite is like Sunflora. I doubt that. You're my favourite Pokemon, Sunflora. I'm sorry, but we're not friends. Next one, Yanma. I didn't realise this was Generation 2. Yeah, well, he's got another evolution I think in Gen 4.
00:22:34
Speaker
Is that why I'm getting mixed up? Maybe B or C? I'd go C. I think he's just... It's okay. It's okay. We'll put it on the other hand. Oh, it's actually approved. It's straight. It's actually approved. And what about Quagsire though? I mean, he always says if he's going to give you a hog. It's a thing that a whipper can never give you, a hog.
00:22:54
Speaker
Can I jump ahead? Go for it. I do have a bit of a problem with Quagsire because there is someone slightly further along on the Pokedex called Wobbuffet who is very similar in terms of colouring and design stuff and I've always felt like Quagsire is just the not good Whooper. So I'll eat, I'm not saying I don't like Quagsire but I think for me Quagsire is A because of Whooper.
00:23:15
Speaker
Yeah, it's only because of Wobbuffet. Okay, I'll get you that. And once his jump ahead is now, we can jump back, but Wobbuffet starts to approve when I'm talking about him. Look at him. He's dead? Okay, fine. Look at that face. He's got a face on his tail. If you punch him, he hits you back ten times as hard. Yeah, but have you seen his female form? Oh, the lipstick. Even funnier. Yeah, yeah. All over that. One of my, I think, maybe my favourite from this generation. Okay. Wow. It was so... Espeon, Umbreon. I would put them either E or Satsu approved, to be honest.
00:23:42
Speaker
Yeah, I'm happy. You're choosing them and I definitely think they're both good. I think Umbreon's probably my favourite of the year. Yeah, I'll put them both in Satsui approved because I have fun memories of playing Pokemon cosy. Yes. And you know, those are the starters you get and they're good boys. Or girls. Okay, Marco. I like the hat. Yeah, it's like a gangster. Yeah.
00:24:04
Speaker
Yeah. Did my crew get an evolution or am I making that one? Yeah. A hodge crow is like, would be sat so approved. Yeah. A hodge crow is amazing. Yeah. A hodge crow is just A, B. If it wasn't for the heart, it would be nothing. Oh yeah. Does the heart make it? It's okay. I don't like it. It's okay. I like it. Is that so approved? I think A. He's good. Yes. It was a great attempt. I think this is probably the best one at doing an evolution of someone who already had. It's definitely a good one. Mistress.
00:24:35
Speaker
Yeah, I want to kind of link this to this bit, I don't think. They go up better later. So before we go on to the next one, I just want to point out, I was looking through the tier lists and there are so many where they've put in all of the unknowns. And I want to know out there, who's putting together a tier list and being like, yeah, I like unknowns A to G. But as soon as I get to T, it just kind of goes down how from there. What was your favourite letter? The tier list, the alphabet. So that's approved, definitely J, definitely M.
00:25:04
Speaker
Your darling's a letter O, right? I actually think this could be a case where we just don't rank unknown. I don't even think... I don't know how I feel about unknown at all. I don't know either, do the alphabet. The last time I saw 17 alphabets were, what, letter 1?
00:25:22
Speaker
There's a blast from the past ages. That's unlocked a whole bunch of enemies for me. Giraffarage. He's got a bomb that eats things. Yeah, that's pretty hype. I don't think this is... Can I vote? Yeah, very hype that he can eat things out of his bomb.
00:25:39
Speaker
I mean it is. I think there's a better version of Dreyfrigg in... I think it must be in Gen 3. Yeah. And it's the Pokémon that's like got the big... is it mobile? It's got the big head on it. So I think that does this better, which is like the dual thing. So I would go C or even you'd add on this one. I would go C, cool. I will say it's just different enough. Yeah. It's not.
00:26:01
Speaker
Henco, that is the contingency plan of Adam, if he was taking over the region to throw one of them into the room of the leaf horse and blow them up. I would go for B for that. Yeah, I think B. I think it's a good design. B for it. Don't blow me up, Adam. And I mean, I would even go for fortress. I would say that was probably B. Yeah, I agree with that. I don't quite understand how it turns out from Henco, but that's not what we're doing here. Dunsparce.
00:26:27
Speaker
I kind of want to put Dunsparce on like A for the giggles, because I do love it. He's iconic, he's not Satsu approved, but he's iconic and I'm going to be honest, I'm not important on Satsu approved for this next one. For Gligar!
00:26:41
Speaker
Well, he or Satsui. Yeah, I think I'd agree with that. Well, my only problem with Gligar is... No, I actually like that. Most of us are in the same generation as Crobat. I also thought that was a weird choice. True. Like when you see them together right now. Yeah. But I think Gligar's better than Crobat and we've put Crobat in A. So I'm happy to put Gligar in A or Satsui. We'll put in A. Okay. Because A's working pretty lonely. But we'll put in me solid. Now, Steelix.
00:27:06
Speaker
I would say that's the approach. Because I feel as if he does everything better than... It's like, you know that meme where it's like Daniel and then the Cooler Daniel. It's like Onyx versus the Cooler Onyx. And this was kind of the launching pad for... You still put a cool one as well. Oh, yeah.
00:27:21
Speaker
So yeah, great design. So that's Snubbull. Your dad, man, looks like that. I like Snubbull more than I like Granbull, I think, but I don't think I like him so... They're just, they're bulldogs. They're cute enough, but I just, I don't like the clown motif. Yeah, I don't get it. I don't get the dress thing as well on Snubbull. Imagine, that's like, do you know what that reminds me of? It's like the anime version of that dog from Wallace and Gromit that tries to kill old.
00:27:47
Speaker
You know, all the sheep, I don't like that. Quillfish? I don't really have an opinion on quillfish. See? Yeah. It's okay. It says, or I'm gonna say, satsup. Yeah. I don't know. The edgy teen agent really would never forgive me if I didn't move satsup. It's honestly incredible. Oh, you don't fuckle with shuckle.
00:28:08
Speaker
I would say Heracross, that's the approved as well. Yeah, this has been a really strong re-runner. It's a Heracross great design, it's such a Pokémon. Oh, they're amazing. Because I remember there was an episode of the anime where they both thought it was already Heracross. They're just both not amazing. Sneasel! What is Sneasel? What is it? I don't know, I don't see many of these ones. I don't know what we're talking about.
00:28:37
Speaker
Yeah, why not? Go for C. Teddy, ah, he's cute though. You can already guess, I'm going to say Teddy is a friend and I think A to you. Yeah. Now, who's not A to you is Ursarang. Yeah. I would say C. Yeah. Yeah. I think C. I think he's the worst as I in every way. Swatma. Straight into B for slung my balls. She had to C to you. That's straight into B for slung my balls. You drive a hard bargain crew.
00:29:07
Speaker
I'm sort of ashamed of myself but I'm not at the same time. I tried to hold off but you wouldn't listen. I was debating letting you rest on it and see what you would do. And that cargo. I like the fact it's like a fire snail. I don't feel as if I get many kind of... I would say B for a little bit. I think Pokemon typically have good fire types. Fire is probably my favourite of the things. Snubble.
00:29:31
Speaker
Swine up. Oh, Swine up. Yes, that's not a good moment. Swine up. I just don't really... He's okay. Yeah, pillow swine in the hand I think is a much funnier design. I like the tusks. I like the hair. Yeah, I think B. I would say B. Of course, I like the design. I would say that's a solid B maybe. The other thing I think about Corsola is whenever it comes up, it's like the other Pokémon eat it. Yeah, and it turns and tackles tight by Generation H.
00:30:01
Speaker
And I don't like the fact it turns into an octopus. And I'm going to be honest, I don't like octopuses either. I feel they're creepy. They're weird. I've got too many tentacles. Do you want to just put them both in your dialects as well? Oh, you read my mind. There we go.
00:30:16
Speaker
Delibird, Delibird, I would say. Yeah, I think Delibird's not my favourite design, but the fact that he owes you. I know I said I wasn't going to try and talk about the bed and stuff, but the whole concept is very funny, like the whole Santa Claus thing. Now, I don't like it, but at the same time, look at that face.
00:30:38
Speaker
Because there's Mantyde. Mantyde's just the cheeky. I like the fact that you see it a lot in the water pictures has Pokémon from under it as well. Like an actual Manta Ray. I'm happy to go B for the Manta Ray. That's right. Skarmory? I would say E. Yeah, there's steel tapes in this generation. Look at this. It'll look fairly, very good. He is a neater, you know. This is one of the ones that I actually, I typically quite like dog Pokémon, but how do you do it? I'm not massive on this one. I'm not a big fan of this. I don't get what though.
00:31:08
Speaker
A heat pause? Yeah. See? Yeah, I think so. See for both or? How do I think it's a wee bit better but I still think maybe see? Yeah. But we're going to piss off our water people, aren't we? Kindra. I like the idea of Kindra, like the old sort of like a symmetrical dragon, sea lumps, but it's a what? It's very busy. I think it looks really busy. Yeah.
00:31:29
Speaker
Panthe, I have to admit, I like this evolution line. Maybe I prefer Don't Fan to Panthe. Yeah, I'd give it that. Panthe C, Don't Fan. Oh, Don't Fan, I think it's a hard one. I think Don't Fan's difficult because there's a lot of nostalgia for me for Don't Fan. Yeah, I see. It can't go into scientific proof. I think it's that good. But I do think an A, and I think that might be me overeating it. But it is like an iconic design. The fact you've got the tyre and everything. You know my answer for the next one. This is body one two.
00:31:56
Speaker
I mean, it's not the strongest Porygon, but I mean, I would definitely say leaf. I'm happy to go for that. I would go for eight, or... I feel bad not putting it in sassy I proved, but... I like Porygon. I like Porygon Z. Porygon 2's always been that weird. I don't try old, I'm like, ehh... Stanton? Stanton, I forgot what existed until we did this right now. See, see. Again, you put it the same generation as Doraforix, as well. There's a lot of crops over here.
00:32:23
Speaker
Smeagol, I'm not a huge fan of the design, but there is that, do you not quite like Picasso, that completes Pokemon with six Smeagol, which is very funny. But the actual design itself, I get as an artist, I just don't, I'm not a master fan of it. Would you say C then? I think I'd go for C, yeah.
00:32:38
Speaker
I don't really know how to rate Tyrogue. I would say C again. Well no, actually I would probably put it in your DAB more. I like the idea of it. I don't like the fact again you're having to retroactively go back. Yeah, I think that's my thing as well. I like the idea more than I like the actual design. Hypnontop? Hypnontop's an A for me. I like him that he's upside down.
00:33:02
Speaker
you can't wear this for some reason it has like two and a half feet you've got a table on it but it's very funny to me is it actually for you that's very funny to me yeah i love it no no no if there was one double that i would i would put it in but unfortunately we don't work and i just swirled
00:33:21
Speaker
This is one of the only BB Pokemon I've also seen. Yeah, Ella Kid is definitely the best one out of the ones. I love the sort of the plug design on his head. I do think it's the best one, apart from obviously Toga B, which is, I guess maybe Pokemon in that sense. But Ella Kid, I'd be happy to put like B or A. I would go for A. Go for it. Again, it's not Satsu TR, but Mag B. Yeah, Mag is dumb at the bottom. I'm not too bald. The first one. How do you feel about Miltank? I feel so fucking burned in hell.
00:33:49
Speaker
I have so many memories of trying to beat the hell out of this thing from Whitney. It's a cow. It's a cow that's curbed stock my hopes and dreams as a child. How are we supposed to justify that? A cow ended up in those locks. I would put that as C because at least the errands aren't respect. You have respect.
00:34:11
Speaker
Not as much as I like Chansey, but I like the sort of the nurse motif, the wee feathers and all that. I think Bee, Bee. I wouldn't go for Bee. Legend of the dog thing. What's your favourite at the free list, are there? I'm at the end tie. Really? Well, I think no, it's a toss between Raikou and the end tie, but I would probably say end tie, maybe because he got his own fill. Yeah, I was thinking as well, I'll really like end tie. End tie's my favourite at the free. I do like speaking as well though, but end tie's definitely for me, because end tie's probably start to improve for me.
00:34:38
Speaker
I would go for that. I think the other two, we rate 8 based on that. Yeah, I think we go for both at 8. Because they are still really strong, because I would say they're a pain in the arched account. I like an avatar as like the little mini Godzilla. I'd go for like an A or a B for him. I like his act, he also looks like he'd like to steal your lunch money. There's like a little bit of meanness to him, which I quite like. Pope-a-tah. I don't really get it. I would say C, if you know this.
00:35:03
Speaker
has to be Satsu. For Tyranitar, a hundred percent. You know me, Godzilla Mark. I even had time on my team. He's amazing. Oh, so now we've got the final three. We've got Lugia and Celibi. Lugia, for me personally, I'm biased towards Lugia because Silver was my game. Sure. For the gold was my game but I actually think Lugia was better.
00:35:25
Speaker
Do you think? I think there's something more mystical about it. I know who was in the first program and this was kind of cool but for some reason Lugia is like almost an alien. Yeah. Like it's got that weird like next level design which I really like. I think Lugia might be S or this has to be approved. I would go for that. Hopefully I'm not as strong for that. Let's see.
00:35:46
Speaker
But I mean, I still have flashbacks to that randomizer, from what I did, where for some reason a bird trainer just absolutely wiped the floor with me with a hole. I had nothing but a hole pip.
00:35:58
Speaker
It was not a fun time. Celiby, I would say A. Yeah, I think I'd go for A as well. I don't want to keep comparing them to the Gen 1 counterparts, but like, Mew is the better baby legend or anything. Yeah. I think it doesn't much better. Celiby's cute though. I like the hair, I like the wings. Yeah, definitely A. And that is us with Generation 2. Which actually wasn't that. No, it was quite quick. Doing the equipment and then of what insats we approved. Okay, so for sats we approved, we have Totadio for alligator, Togadee, Marit, Anthros. This is like a...
00:36:27
Speaker
This is like me in the blackboard. We've got Maro, Sudowidow, Whipper. Oh, well-prepared, thank you. My boy. My boy. We've got Espio and Umbreon, Steelix, Cesar. Don't chuckle with fuckle.
00:36:46
Speaker
I think that was a pretty good list. You'll be able to see. We'll post this film list. I won't go through A to C. No, I just wanted to get a Hall of Fame there. But I want to go to the bottom.
00:37:01
Speaker
and just tell you which Pokémon you're da-slash-more like. Bonus points for our honorary mention for the Unknown being down there with his Lonesome and Ranked along with the Mega Evolutions. So we have Leadear, Clephar, Iglibath, Togekiss, what the hell are you?
00:37:22
Speaker
Paulie Toad. Paulie Toad. Hoppit. The whole Hoppit family. Straight in there. Everyone's favourite Pokemon song cast. Someone's going to call this song cast, it's like, it's not usual. Snubbull, Granville, Remedy, Doctoralay, Tyro, Smoochum, and Smagbait. Yep. Baby Pokemon, I feel as if.
00:37:41
Speaker
other than a couple of exceptions just get a bad rap to be honest and rightfully so. So seeing this we've just covered my personal favourite generation. Why don't we go on to your personal favourite generation? My personal favourite generation is Generation 3. Which is funny because I actually had a wee look at the tale of myself and there's a lot of folk going on in Generation 3 that I forgot.
00:38:07
Speaker
I always say it's the best generation. And then I'm looking at it, I was like, wow. Okay, let's start Gen 3 then. Okay, here we go. We've got it all warmed up. As we said before, our top tier is Satsua Approved. We've got ABC, and then we've got our bottom tier, which is Yerda slash Ma likes this Pokémon, which is the absolute, the bottom of the map. The shame, the shame, the utter shame. So first of all, we've got Chico. We both hesitated again.
00:38:36
Speaker
It's pretty cool! Yeah, I don't feel it until it's pretty cool. It's not the one I would actively choose in a playthrough. I actually feel the same for this entire line. Grovile as well, and Sceptile is maybe the best at the three, but I don't really feel strongly about it either. No, I'm the same. I would go firstly. Not because it's a bad Pokémon, it's not a bad design, but in fact I think this is probably like the Bailey situation, where I think that Grovile maybe is the best middle.
00:39:03
Speaker
Yeah, I'd probably agree with that. Out of three of them. I think keep them the same. I don't really feel any towards them. Torchic. However, Torchic I think is either an A or a satsu approved. I would go for satsu approved because it's iconic. I mean look at him, he's a fire chicken. It's like a PFC could attack you back, you know.
00:39:22
Speaker
It's definitely up there. And I know middle evolutions typically get a bit of a made. They get made fun of, but I like combustion as well. Not as much as classic. It's probably the best one. I would say. It's probably the best. I think Bee. Yeah, I would go for that. Now, Blaze again. My boy. My chicken boy. Fucking tucky fries with kick-ass chicken.
00:39:43
Speaker
I would say he probably or Satsui approved. I'd have to go Satsui approved. I think the problem is nowadays you have so many of the firefighting, but then it was like, this thing's amazing. And it was the pre-custor, because before this you had Charizard and then for Gen 2 you had... Typholosion? Typholosion, yeah. So for Gen 3 you finally got a fire trick and you're like, whoa, he's so cool. And now you get the means where it's like the fire starter will open the box.
00:40:10
Speaker
And it's like a pair of boxing gloves and then just the creator of Pokemon said he'd put the ball and legs on. So yeah, go with that. Mudkitt, that's it for the proof. Yeah, Mudkitt is definitely. That's to me. That was actually my first starter, I think, in this generation. I don't like marshmallow. I don't like them. No, I'm saying. These guys, they've been to my... I would put him at sea. I would go as far as that. It's definitely a thing in Pokemon with a sprite, you wouldn't recognise the eyes as much. Have you seen these 3D evolution, like the 3D model? The eyes are terrifying. Oh!
00:40:39
Speaker
It's horrifying. It's like something like The Conjure and nothing. I was going to say, the sprite, you don't recognize it as much, but it's not takes you to the 3D mode where you're like, oh wow, that is... That's horrifying. Yeah. That is a doll that is just staring into my soul. See? Yeah. It's not as bad as your dad, Mark, likes it, but it's one part apocryphal for him, probably. Yeah.
00:40:59
Speaker
I like this one, but it's... I like his bikini. I mean, as you know, I love the orange and blue colour scheme. They're pretty sick. And I know we're not judging making evolutions, but out of three of them, I think his is my favourite because he's just a small, small one. Pucchiena. Pucchiena, I think it's a good design. It's like a bee for me. It's just like, yeah, I like him. He's cute. Maitiena. I'm not a Pucchiena Maitiena. I think Maitiena's maybe a sea. Yeah.
00:41:30
Speaker
I think this is when you've always had a good angle, what is it going to be? Like the high points of density are massive and then there's just a lot of stuff like just there. I think that's how your Dalek's is spoken. I don't get it. It's not funny. I mean, where was Luna when they were climbing up the escalator? That's what you were going to say. Where was Luna when Gondor fell? That's another reason.
00:41:58
Speaker
I'd say the cocoon, I'm going to go as far as the cocoon Pokemon are my least favourite. I'd say I'm not interested. I think they always tried to. I don't want to be like a gen 1, I'd be like oh the gen 1 was the best one.
00:42:14
Speaker
that they always try to redo the bug. Do it just at once, you don't need to keep doing this. Same with beautifying this fox. I like their stocks the best out of the two, but I'm not massively keen on either. I would put them probably on C though. I think so. They're not as bad. I'm not offended by them.
00:42:35
Speaker
Lothard, I would put him up in the air a bit. Yep, Lothard is definitely a massive friend. Little Bill. You know this is going for me. Lumbrey, like his hat. Like his hat, I think he's an A. However, Ludicool has to be. I mean, he's happy, he's cheerful, he dances to Samba. I mean, have you played Pokemon Colosseum? I have not, but I've seen his design eye when his death animation.
00:43:01
Speaker
It's not even that. There's a guy who runs around with a big afro, and it's like half red, half white, and he dances around, and that's always good. It's literally, you know, just dancing. I don't know what to say about it. See, though, it's a, it's a mini coin, it's a seed. It initially was the one that partly inspired Nuzlocke's.
00:43:22
Speaker
Yes, true. I wouldn't say that's a heavy bee. Yeah, yeah. For the pain you've caused, you get put in bee. The shift rate, I know it's like, is it not based off of like a forest spinner or something? I think so. It's like a puppet or something. That's so good, I see. Yeah, I'm the same. I'm not feeling it.
00:43:42
Speaker
I really hope we're not making like some poor Pokemon fan crying with their takes. They're just slamming the screen right now going, no, no, he deserves to be out. He's competitive, no? He's competitive. I actually like table always. I do like table. I would put a E maybe. Yeah, I think so. I could agree with that. I would put...
00:44:02
Speaker
The next one's Swellow at B, maybe? Yeah, I'm not as strong a feeling about him. Nah, like he's not the worst, he's not the best of him at all, but I do have maybodies of him being quite friendly. Wingo, I really like Wingo. I like both things, I really like Wingo. I think Wingo's at B. Oh really? Are you gonna go for his answer?
00:44:20
Speaker
And now I'll distract that because I don't want you to be that slightly as one of those ones that Isaac couldn't decide, but because he's definitely where you can get psychology. Yeah, and I think for me anyway the scientific proof is like oh this is iconic all the time. Pelopon as well, I want to put in scientific proof but I also think it's A. I like his big bill but I don't think he's like whoa
00:44:41
Speaker
Because I will say, whenever I'm playing Pokémon Sapphire, usually I try to play through just catching water Pokémon only. And I honestly feel as if he is amazing. Like I'll have Swampert, I'll have Pelipper, I'll have, you know, just like these. Pelipper's been on every team I've done, and Pokémon are dead free. Oh, it's good.
00:45:01
Speaker
wrote, I would say A. This is another really strong line, I think, with three of these. I like Kelly's little ballerina thing. I think AOB. I'd say B. I'm in a torso because I think A or Satsu are proved, but I don't... I like the idea of it. I like the design of it, but on the other hand, the internet. It's just ruined this Pokémon. I'm not a massive fan of Pokémon that can wear human clothes. That is true.
00:45:29
Speaker
This is like one of my lines. Okay, I'm gonna bump it down into you. I don't think I'd agree with that. I do like God of War, but it's just a thing for me that I don't like Pokemon that look too human. Yeah, well, it's like Machamp. Like, we're just to get the underwear from.
00:45:43
Speaker
That's a good question. I have no feeling towards getting C. I like the eyes and the wings but I've never thought about this yet. I think it's C. I think it's not offensive again. Shroomish makes me laugh.
00:46:00
Speaker
He's got a wee angry face and I don't know why. Do you look him upside down? He does look very angry. I've just done that on my phone here. So he does. I like shrimmish. Have a sit. Yeah, it's like AOP. Yeah, I think it's funny. If I were put, I'd be. Yeah, I'd probably be. Braille him. After that, I keep forgetting a bit of spoken word. Yeah, Braille him. I'd say C. I'd say C as well, but I don't feel anything.
00:46:21
Speaker
I like Snarkoth. I like CC to be honest. I like it but not... And a little B for Snarkoth? I think he's got a wee bit of personality for that. C1s are just a bit more bland. I would say C or B. Yeah, I'm not much of a Snarkoth fan.
00:46:37
Speaker
Yeah, Slaking on the other hand. Slaking is hilarious. He's a champ. He is. He has gone to sleep as I go out of it. But he probably wants to be the creeper. Hold on, I'm just going to move. I'm a bit green teal. There we go. Anyway, sorry. That's another one I've done. He's not offensive.
00:46:59
Speaker
Yep. I like the ninja thing. Yeah, I would say C maybe. Yeah. No, I like... Yeah, so ninja's an entirely different kind of fish. Yeah, I would say probably. Yeah, I agree. I would say it's that super pretty. No. I like his design, I like... I know I said I wanted to talk too much about the games, but the one-hit point gimmick, the one-the-guard, the fact he doesn't open...
00:47:21
Speaker
slot in your party, the skin of the other opponent, very funny. The Wispa always ends up in my teams. I don't like the design very much, but it seems to end up in my team. I think I see for Wispa. Yeah. Wispa always reminds me of, you know, when you watch, like, I showed an anime, but the protagonist is just really whiny and windy and like, I do want to beat this fantastical world. It's like, well, I've got to watch 12 seasons. Shut up, shut up. I watch Attack on Titan go over.
00:47:48
Speaker
See, Loudred, I like the speakers for years. I like the big face. I'd say B. I'd go for B. He's not amazing. No, he's not. Explode though. I think that's what you're talking about. I don't understand. That's not a fan. I know it's like the pipes on his head. Oh, I was supposed to be saying that. I think Loudred makes the design much clearer than Explode. But I see it just looks like he's got macaroni attached to his face.
00:48:16
Speaker
and his backside. It's like he fell in a packet of it and came out. I'm not like, yeah, that's a Pokémon. I like this one. I can do that. I do like Mac Eazer. I would say an A or a B. His head's like a bail bun. Dumpling, which I think is very funny. Is that so dear? Is that so approved? You thought we had to...
00:48:35
Speaker
a funny one because I also have the thing I don't like people too much like people. But this is quite funny. I think B. Yeah. He's not like the big. Yeah. I like the big nose. As you know. As you know. Mados pre-evolution. That's another baby Pokemon. Put that in your dad's feet.
00:48:51
Speaker
I like the idea of it, but then I completely forgot that I think in later renditions of him, he's like, should I? Yes. He's very upset. And that shows how much compassion I have. He's like, get over it, suck it up. You're mad, come on.
00:49:09
Speaker
Well, yes. But I've always said one thing and it's defense. I do like the idea that it always faces North in the open world games. Really? Because it's got its magnetic nose. So in... Okay, okay. But if we're just... There's some people in design, I think it goes into you there. I don't know. There's just something about it every time it pops up. I can't wait to meet it. I can't tell you something about North. I don't like the nose. Why is your nose so... I know it's the style and if you've seen the probe, is it probe or pass or something? Yeah, the mustache and the huge nose and the huge eyes. That's terrifying.
00:49:38
Speaker
That's like something that's like, now I know it's like a Japanese company, but it's like Japanese folk or just a spic. I don't know. For me, it's just unoffensive.
00:49:49
Speaker
Delcati, someone pointed out to me that his neck looks like one of those pillows you wear on the airplane. So, I think it goes into C. I really like this one. See, but I think that's a saturated word for me. It's like an iconic... I think it's one of the best in this generation, I'd say. And again, I know we're not talking about Megas, but it's Megas, like very funny. Oh yeah, it's just got a giant... It's got a giant, like, reveal to the side of it.
00:50:14
Speaker
Yeah, I think it was good. Like I said, it's like a better giraffe rig with split personality things, very funny. I would say that I don't like it. It's just probably what starts out good, to be honest. The lady one I'm not as, you know, out of the three of them. Yeah, the middle one. Yeah, I would say that's probably the A. Yeah, I'd agree with that.
00:50:31
Speaker
So salsa, tia, franano. Yeah, lady on it. It's always the same in the middle of the emotions, isn't it? Yeah, like I like it. It's like robust, sturdy. I've been listening to you at 3am. What's wrong with your problems, you know? I grew up with a hand that would just tell you to shut up. Shut up and stop on your case, boys. It's as if he's holding a microphone. He's like, I'm telling you, brother. You better get over your problem. Meditite. Meditite's like a bee for me. I get him. He's a bee.
00:51:00
Speaker
I don't know why I like psychic pokemon and the fact it's psychic fighting is interesting but I've never picked it up. Now I'm biased here because I love these doggos. I love them. I would say that's a proof to be honest. For both of them? You know what? I can't find a reason to argue. And can I just say it again? I know we're not talking about Mega Evolutions but Manistrix's Mega Evolution is amazing.
00:51:26
Speaker
It's like Super Saiyan 3. If he's the Super Saiyan Men, he's got like the Super Saiyan 3 model and that is just... I love that. What's all the men in here? Just laying them together. Yeah, that. Yeah. Fire was never... I never liked these Pokemon. He brought them in as like gimmicks and dicks, like the doubles. Yeah. But even still, they're never any good. Never. Yeah, no, we're not talking about competitor, but even in the game. No. What's your purpose? You're like, we'll do it by the end. What's your purpose?
00:51:54
Speaker
I feel also the same about home, you know, I'm easy, I don't again. I don't like home. I don't dress, I don't get it. Yeah, they just appear. Firetrucking gold. I don't like Rosalie. Yeah, I suppose, yeah. Oh, Rosalie. Ah, yeah, that's a good one. This is one that's really tiny, which I think is funny. Yeah, I like this one as well. I think an A or a B. Yeah, I would say. I'll go for a look for that. Now, fun fact, and I know you've got a joke about golfing, but I would have a joke about golfing. Give me that to drop me with on.
00:52:23
Speaker
So Gulpin was my first shiny out in the wild, other than obviously, you know, Gyarados. Because I remember I was playing Pokémon Sapphire at the time, and I was playing through a... I think it was Grovio, I chose. And I was like, right, okay, what I'm going to do is I'm going to play through a wee bit more, then I'll restart and start a new game. And of course, I came across Gulpin. And I was like, huh, I've got a shiny Pokémon. This is the first shiny Pokémon I've ever caught. And I'm like, I have no way at the time. I have no way to transfer this.
00:52:53
Speaker
Bye.
00:52:56
Speaker
would say C. Yeah, Swallow and Gulpin. Bartsies. Yeah, I just didn't. This is what we're doing for these. I feel like the peaks are amazing, but there's a lot of stuff I don't really care for. On the other hand, Kavana and Sharpiro, I like Sharpiro a lot. Kavana, I'm not asking none. I would say probably being gay. Yeah, I think being gay. Kavana's fun. I like how bright it is. And Sharpiro, the fact that it's like a torpedo match with a shark is just very funny. The only thing I don't like about it is the fact that it's not got a tail. I know it's supposed to be a arm. Not even a body, it's just a head.
00:53:25
Speaker
It annoys me. It's Karvana. Sorry, before we go on, is Karvana a linked to Sharpedo? I think it's like, erm... Cos if Pokemon go, you can evolve it back. I never remembered it evolving past, you know. Wailmer is just a pea cursor. It's the, erm, it's the silver surface signal actors here. So Wailmer, I'm happy to put you on C. What?
00:53:45
Speaker
I would say B, but Waylode. Waylode. Look at him. He's a blimp. Can you imagine going to the Pokemon League and being like, here's my whale. That's that blowing up into smithereens. That's what I love about it. It's so impractical. OK, no more. Camera, I like more. I think camera's like a solid B or an A. I like the rings round it. I like the volcano motif.
00:54:12
Speaker
I would go for B. Now, Torquo, I'm half tempted to put it in Satsubroove, or an A. I don't know what it is. I think it's one of these Pokemons like Typhlosion that got heavily nerfed.
00:54:27
Speaker
And it's design. But look at it here. We're working at the sprite work again. We've got the steam coming out its nose, the steamer up to the top. But it's a very imposing and good design. It's just not the Pokémon that sponk. It's not the Pokémon that dies if it stops moving. If it stops moving, it stops bouncing. That's depressing. I think we should put it A.
00:54:49
Speaker
to be awarded for his short life. I like he's got a ball on his head. I don't know, should we put his hats up so it's his only? Yeah, go for it. I have a really sore spot towards the point because of the Pokemon cards as well. I got in one of the decks from this generation in spawn because like, massively enough was the real one. Grumpig in the hand is another one. He's like, what's his BRC to be on? Yeah, I think it's too busy. I don't guess it again. He's got the three eyes. Mother of three, but yeah, it's got the bombs. Spin.
00:55:17
Speaker
I would say your mother likes this. Well, I would like to defend Spindler and maybe take it as a dependency because it does have the thing that every single Spindler is unique. Yeah, that's true. Which is very, very funny to me. But it's very rare in it. Okay, you've convinced me of that. That right on the screen is terrible for him. Yeah. Because it has no patterns on its face on that one. Well, I think it's funny. Yeah. No, I'll go for C then. Trap in. B, baby.
00:55:41
Speaker
Yeah, Trappage is a wee friend, like his wee face. It's got a wee smile, like a kiki. I don't know, but it's sick. Oh, it's a brother. Yeah, there's so many of these I don't really feel much towards. Flygon though. So it's eyes are like goggles, which is very cool. I think this is an A for me. I like the dragons. I like, it's sort of like a bit lighter than the other ones. I just think it looks really cool. Cactney's terrifying. Like a B to you? Yeah, I think a B. I like it. It's distinctive. Yes. So you'd recognise it.
00:56:10
Speaker
It's evolution on the other hand. It's very similar, isn't it? It's very much, and not because they're both grass Pokemon, but... This note doesn't help. Sworblue. I'm liking Sworblue.
00:56:25
Speaker
I would say you're a B. Yeah, I'd be happy with that. Altaria, I think, is actually better as well. I like the whole bird in the cloud dragon thing. I think it deserves to be there. I think it's so iconic. I just love just trying to hang it out between Altaria and Altaria. I'm just like, number one, it's like, sure you are buddy. How long has it got?
00:56:49
Speaker
Design gives us a lazy oogee. I love it. I'm happy with that as well. Have you seen his shiny form? It's like bright blue. It's hilarious. The Viper is very iconic. I would say it's probably better in some ways to our book. Our book is, obviously apples and oranges here, but it's definitely a lot worth writing in. It's got the blade for the tail and everything.
00:57:13
Speaker
Yeah, I've never looked. That's one of the great things. I really like it. I like its face. It's really mischievous. I really like this. Hang on a second, A. Would you say A or Satsuit? I think A. I think it's not quite, you know, even if it was Satsuit, I'd be like, I'd just be like, whoa. The sun and the moon. First of all, they came out in the wrong game. Yeah. And everyone knows that. And they didn't even come out in sun and moon, did they? No, they went in at moon. So Luna Tone and Soul Rock.
00:57:38
Speaker
I think he's about to see for me. I get the idea about it. I like the idea, but yeah, they're not great Pokemon. Because again, it's gone back to that double battle.
In-depth Pokémon Tier Discussion
00:57:47
Speaker
I mean, look how Dama likes this Pokemon tier. We've got the two, Hobie and Illuminous. We've got Quasil and Minon. And then we've got Oonatone and so on. They're all clearly designed to be working together. Yeah. Oonatone, so if you're lucky, you're not in that team. You better up your game. Oh, brooch. I hate to think this is Oodal.
00:58:07
Speaker
i just i don't like it i hate it no i don't hate it but i just i don't get it i'm not a fan there which cast is funnier i would say c that and it got quite controversial in the anime what i'm sure that was the episode i'll probably cut this in case i'm totally wrong um but i'm sure that was the one where there was an episode where it closed in the earthquake or something but of course that go inside with a real life earthquake so they had to like take off the episode it was really the kind
00:58:33
Speaker
Couple of episodes like that I'll have to say, and both of them are where they just cut it because they're obviously from real life and they've been too hot. Now that too. Koffish! Koffish. I like Koffish. I like Koffish. I like Koffish. I like Koffish. I like them both. Did you say solid bees then? Yeah, I think they're solid bees both of them. They're different enough from carbine tingler as well. Yeah. They've done the carb thing.
00:58:55
Speaker
I don't feel as much. I do feel a lot closer. I would say that's an easy E or B. I think that's an A for me. I do like him. I actually used one of these for that. He's an old one. But I used them anyway.
00:59:11
Speaker
I think it was Pokemon Shield. I used to move like a Nuslocke and it was really good. It got wiped out in the last battle but it was really good. It was like wow. The fossil ones in this one aren't as good, I don't think. I don't like lily or fidelity. Do you know, I don't think we had any new fossil types in Gen 2. You know what, I was just thinking that. I don't think it was the last one. No, lily, no. I don't feel any better. Both of them just...
00:59:38
Speaker
they're all right but I know it's an old mould though I like a mould a bit better but again I just see maybe for both of them I just see for both yeah I mean I don't like his cute eyes I also don't have his funny eyes that are at the side in fact though that's the thing I don't like about the moment
00:59:55
Speaker
You know how they've got the red in the front, but they've got the two eyes at the side.
Design Opinions: Pokémon Phoebus
01:00:00
Speaker
The C when I saw the two eyes at the side, it changed my life. I was like, no. Phoebus. Phoebus, I get the joke of it being ugly to me. Look at it, but I think obviously it is ugly. So I think Phoebus ends my whole duke. I feel a bit stronger about him, B. I like his design, I think it's... What makes you say B rather than like A or something?
01:00:21
Speaker
i don't think it's like one of it i think obviously you've got like teeny dragon and stuff like i feel like the ones that it was up to but i think it's just a nice design that's not like blowing me away yeah but i'm breaking bitch
01:00:36
Speaker
I would say it's just a gas storm. You'll see in the picture, we've got all the foams up on the screen as well. The foams are funny, but nothing pushes it above the sea. I don't think it matters. Because we've just put all the other forms, like the sun, the wind and the rain form, just, yeah. Or, no, sorry. I say wind, but I think it's time to go. Yeah, it's hail. I was wondering how it transformed into that.
Kelpeon's Invisibility Humor
01:01:00
Speaker
Why did you push your secret? You've got my tall helmet.
01:01:03
Speaker
You have it 60. It's always when you play, weapon your team and you're like, should I use a weapon?
01:01:10
Speaker
I would say that's probably a bee. Yeah, I like kelpeon. I like the fact that it's invisible when you first meet it. It's kind of funny. Shopper. Shopper I like because it's kind of like a finger bubble. It's kind of funny. I like a bee. Yeah. I don't feel strongly about... I don't know. I get the puppet thing and it's quite spooky. I would say I like a bee or a sea to be honest.
01:01:34
Speaker
I'd go with yours, yeah, I'd have... Let's go, let's go with me. Let's go with you. Never really like this one. I do really like this one as well. I would say it's either E or Satu, do you? You know what, I think he deserves it. Yeah, I think he
Banana Dinosaur Pokémon Debate
01:01:46
Speaker
deserves it. Because he is quite easy, he's like spooky, he's like three. He's cute, spooky, he's like, it really sums up both of them. Yeah, but the next one is a disc, all disc gloves. I think it's like, he looks as if he's a mummy with a mustache.
01:01:59
Speaker
If you look at the bed in the middle, you know, it looks like you should be like, oh, Dally Ho, that's some good old scary. That's like your dad.
01:02:11
Speaker
I would say a B maybe just for that. You might say maybe put up a rank in B now. You like this next one, don't you? Oh, I would say that's it, yeah. I don't know what it is. I think it's the bananas that sell it for me. Gotta get a potassium, first of all. But second of all, I mean, he's a dinosaur. He flies. He might not be the best competitive, but my god, he's trying with those bananas. It's like, you know,
01:02:35
Speaker
But that's the thing though, can you imagine, you're fighting with him in the Pokemon League and you know, he feints. What if you're hungry halfway through the battle? Is it a social faux pas to take a banana off of him and then return him to the Pokemon? Or do bananas even exist in Pokemon? Or is it? So how do us know this? Next we'll be asking the minions like when it happens in the Pokemon universe if focus exists. Shineko, I didn't know I was in this game.
01:03:03
Speaker
I mean it wasn't until after because it was like one place in the game. I'm sure this is the Pokémon written James out of the anime hand. Like I had it replaced because Jessie instead of Arbok, she had to wipe her. And I'm sure he had this one, but just like no impression. There wasn't like a victory bell that ate him, or a Wobbuff head that just got bit at it, which she was still there.
01:03:25
Speaker
I would say C. Yeah, absolutely capsule. I would say A or C. I think A. I'm not completely blown out of capsule, I do like capsule. Why not? It's funny, but I don't rate him that high. I think I see her B. Yeah, I would say C. Because again, it's a baby Pokémon that didn't need to be there. Snorlant, I roll it like that. I do like Snorlant. Yes, cute. I would say a B or an A. Yeah, definitely B. Someone pointed out to me that Galileo looks like Frieza.
01:03:53
Speaker
that kind of hyped me. I would say it's a B or an A. I like the freeze ahead, that's why. Sveal is such a good. Has to be. I mean look at that face, he's just so happy.
01:04:10
Speaker
It only gets Celo and all his fun done. This is again the middle evolution problem. I like his mustache. I do like his mustache. But I would say B. Yeah. He's alright. What were we going to think is a wee bit better? I think we're going to maybe an A? Yeah. I like he's got the big tusks, he's a big beaky boy. Clampo? Yeah duh.
01:04:27
Speaker
Yeah. This whole... I'm looking at this line here at like... I've hunted an old one, spot it on the hill, the pink one. What was the pink one called? Hunting Gobus? Gobus Toph? Gobus Toph? I don't know. Yeah, they're definitely in round. Really can't... Only... I could see C maybe. Only really famous because of that you have to catch one and level it like whatever level it is. It was a pain in the arse to get. I'm tempted to just shove it down to you, I'm not. I've just for that, but I like its design.
01:04:56
Speaker
like this kind of prehistoric design. I mean, he's trying for the next one. Love discs. I haven't succeeded. It's not the best, but it's trying. Now, I would say probably ATR for ATR, because it sounds like bagel. I would probably go B or C to you. I would actually say A or B for Sheldon. I think really, Sheldon's one of my favourite middle-earls because this is so stupid. Yeah, that's why.
01:05:25
Speaker
I would say B. I think I can go B. Yeah, like I would say it's not the worst, but it's just one of those weird demolitions you think. How did you get here? Yeah. Salamands. Salamands isn't as good as I hoped it would be. Yeah, I would say, I would still say E or B to you. I'd say B.
01:05:40
Speaker
Yeah, we're just going to piss off a lot of people, but it's good. I don't know, I think it's okay. I don't know, what do you think it's okay? That's like, this is go to you. This is satsu to you all the way. All freedom. I would say that. I really like all freedom. I like building. I was waiting for the pause there because I was like,
01:05:58
Speaker
Where are you going with this? I really like Metang. It's the middle of the ocean. The fact that there's two arms and then Metagross is... Metagross' peak for me. Yeah, Metagross is an amazing boat. I'm gonna say Metagross' arms. Have you seen the fan art someone did of someone riding a Metagross to work?
01:06:17
Speaker
It's actually incredible. I'll see if I can look it up while we're doing this, but it's like a guy sitting on a desk on top of Metagross, and Metagross is stomping through the streets, and he fires like a beam of energy. It's so good. I like all three of these. One of the wishes you got, you get them early in the game, but that doesn't affect how good they look. Now, the Regis. This is a hard one. This is a hard one because I think Regiroc is
01:06:46
Speaker
Key. I think veggie works my favourite. The question is, what's your favourite shape? Do you like complicated shapes? Do you like simple shapes or do you like round shapes? That is absolutely what this is. Also, sorry, for the record, I am just showing Greg the Metagross.
01:07:05
Speaker
I don't know, I like Regis, but I like the idea of a Regis steal. Yeah, I don't have a feeling towards any of them. I would say I'm happy to go for you or you would go for this one. I would just put them as so it would be. Yeah. They're good, but they're not.
01:07:20
Speaker
I don't know, it's like you always get the trilogy, don't you? Yeah. Like for Generation 1, it was the birds. For Generation 2, it was the dogs. For Generation 3, it was the Regis, which is a very weird choice. I can't remember what Generation 4 was. I really like Regigigas, but obviously he's not on this. Ladias and Ladios? I prefer Ladios, I have to say. I can't say it because it was between the two of them. I just like Blue Bull. I can't say it. It's very simple, but I don't know.
01:07:48
Speaker
I have a good producer. I never called his Pokemon. Was he like the one doing Pokemon? Yeah. I never called him. I didn't call him, but then it's like they had to find the new boy. You're like, now what? Beak? Yeah, I'm fine with that. They're good. They're fine. They're like the Regis. They throw a spot in the decks. Kyogre. Now, I have bias because Sapphire was my game. So I would like to group the next three together, and I would like to group them all into some sort of proof.
Legendary Pokémon Trio Admiration
01:08:13
Speaker
Kyogre, Groudon, and Maguiser. I think they're all incredible.
01:08:16
Speaker
I love all three of them. I think they're the strongest trilogy of identities. Yeah, they're definitely the most iconic because when you see them, you know they're legendary. Yes. You know they're powerful. Like, especially with Rayquays. I love Rayquays. Yeah. Like, when I first saw them, I was like, it's all right. But the more I look at them, I think, oh, with the whole dragon serpent thing. Really? I genuinely think they're the best identities. Yeah. Outside of YouTube, maybe. I think the three of them combined are the best any game's had.
01:08:45
Speaker
I don't know, I would say it's probably one of the better baby legendary Pokémon. Yeah, that gives me heart. I would say either A or Satsu. I'd go A. Just for the record, my dog just decided to walk in.
01:09:06
Speaker
Let's see what we're doing, a Pokemon to your wrist and then walk back out. My dog has decided to walk out to really the last one. So we have the Oxus, who is... I would say this is probably a satsy for you. Yeah, I think so. One of it is so unique. Yeah. Like the DNA thing, like the concept of the wrapping. Alien. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's a satsy. As he's looking to the swallow on your dog.
01:09:42
Speaker
about it.
01:10:02
Speaker
See how hard that is man? Swamp it. There you go. Swamp it. Really cool though. Barracuda. Stabilite. Aaron. Oh my god is that a big one Chris? You're gonna have to. Agron. Big Aaron. Electric. Electric. Wheelman. Wheel Lord. Wheel Lord. Please do the Lord. Wheel King. Spoke. Oh boy Spoke. I've got to get Spoke, don't worry. Spoke is my boy. Spoke is only what it looks like. That's how they are.
01:10:28
Speaker
Ataria and Zangus. This girl? This is so difficult right? You did this so easily and you don't have it. I don't know what's wrong with her. I've been into the blue city. I don't know the names but I've seen this and I've been telling you, oh you should do it with my heart. Tropius, Spheal, the entire Metagross line, Groudon, Kyoga, Aquisor, Interaction, Deoxys, I mean that's an amazing line. That is. Like all five of those letters to make it.
01:10:52
Speaker
is such an amazing duration. Generation 3 is the one I'll say is my favourite and I think that improves mine. And of course, your Yirdamaw. Some of these I can't even, I don't even know the name of, some of these... We've got Loonoon, Fascoon, Silcoon, what are you going to say? No, isn't that Explode? Explode, sorry. Explode. As a Mechaoona?
01:11:14
Speaker
as soon as I'm in. My dog has just fallen asleep while I've been reading these out so I'll be reading this to your list out to her tonight to get her to sleep. We've got Nosepass, Puzzle, Menon, Volby, Illuminous, Barboach and the two Lily thingies. I don't like that.
01:11:30
Speaker
I've never, I don't know how you choose the Helix fossil. I've never chosen whatever the equivalent is with us. You've got Clampero, Hunter and Gorbachev. Yeah. Gorbus. Gorbus. I'm really into that.
01:11:46
Speaker
a lot of fun. Yeah, that was genuinely a lot of fun. Thank you again. Take a seat for, yeah, taking part in this. Make sure you let Sami know which ones he got wrong, message him on Twitter, message him on any social media you can find to tell him how wrong he is.
Listener Interaction and Closing Remarks
01:12:00
Speaker
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01:12:16
Speaker
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01:12:29
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01:12:49
Speaker
Thank you all so so much for listening and as I said you can catch us on portbeach.com forward slash chat tsunami or you can check us out on all good podcast apps but until then I am going to go feed my dog my very own pokemon who's sitting on my lap. As always stay safe, stay awesome and most importantly stay hydrated. I wanna be the very best and na na na na na