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Episode 88 - Short's Brewing Company
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This week the whole crew is in the studio. Clark brings in some beer from Shorts Brewing out in Bellaire, Michigan. There are hits and there are misses and Tony yells at Dan again!
https://www.shortsbrewing.com/
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Transcript
Unexpected Beer Tastes
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Speaker
I guess I don't want to say I'm surprised every time I have it, but I'm surprised every time I have it by... He said he didn't want to say that, folks.
00:00:11
Speaker
But he was forced to, buddy. Because that's all I could say. Dan is holding a gun to him saying, you better fucking say that. But it's Malty. We got a thinker here, guys. Did I tell you I was surprised? No. Every time I have this.
Sampling Shorts Brewing Beers
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Speaker
Interesting. This week we sample beers from Shorts Brewing in Bel Air, Michigan. This is episode 88 of The Malting Hour.
00:00:30
Speaker
What's the haps on the house? Got yeast and speech This the molten hour where we talk about our drink And tell you what we think every other week And if we get drunk, well we might slur our speech Gotta get a cab, the friends you wish you had Join us for a drink, join us for a laugh Time is never wasted, wait you're getting wasted The molten hour here, people, people taking places People, people taking places People, people taking places
Meet the Hosts
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Speaker
Welcome to The Malting Hour. I am one of your hosts, Tony Golic, joined always with Brandon Winningjour. And two stooges who haven't been here together in a long time. We've got in the way back, Clark Fetridge. Clark, welcome back. Thank you.
00:01:12
Speaker
And to my left, guy who I feel like we haven't seen in a long time, Danny Pauli. Been busy. I think this is the first time you've introduced yourself as Dan Pauli. Last time you... Danny hip-hop's. From hip-hop's. Dan. Danny. Danny hip-hop's. Danny hip-hop's. I don't think you ever said ad hip-hop. Hip-hop. Anonymous. Yeah.
00:01:33
Speaker
Oh, man, it's good to have you guys. Look, it's nice to have all four of us here in the same place. I don't think we've been together since Christmas. That's correct. Wait. Oh, shit. Yeah, that's all four. The Christmas episode? Wow. We talked about one. OK.
00:01:47
Speaker
What is July? About to be August. We did say we were going to try and do the last Bourbon County episode with you. Yeah, I had a newborn. And then I got... Excuses. We got COVID. Something comes first. And then my son got a stomach bug. So we've been a long...
00:02:06
Speaker
Long, long few months. What'd you call it? The long COVID? Yeah, the long COVID. Similar to the white socks I hear. Yeah. Yeah. Long COVID. sponsoring your 2022 Chicago White Socks.
00:02:21
Speaker
Are they a real sponsor? That's awesome. Yeah, they're. Way to go, COVID. Anyways, this is an episode that we've been wanting to do, I don't know, since what, Clark, you joined the show? Yeah, I feel like there's, give or take, four to five episodes that we've been talking about for a good year, almost two years. And this is one of them. And we've only had one or two of their beers on the show, correct?
00:02:46
Speaker
I'd say one to two is correct. All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, here's the big reveal if you didn't look at the title of the episode.
Focus on Shorts Brewing
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Speaker
It's the Shorts Beer episode.
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Speaker
Shorts Brewing Company, Bel Air, Michigan. Nice. And Clark, you're curating this episode, so to speak. You're going to treat us like we're at a beer bar in Michigan, and you are going to give us the beers that you think we should be
Curated Beer Lineup by Clark
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Speaker
drinking. Yes, that's exactly how it's going to work. So before we get to that, to Dan, Brandon, you and I, we're just here at the bar. We sit down. There we go.
00:03:19
Speaker
Hey, hey, guys, what's up? How's it going? Yeah, man. How are you? Pretty good. Dan, long time no see, man. Thank you. How's that long COVID going? It's going better now. Oh, that's good. Sorry about the Tampa Bay lightning. Yeah. That's a chance. I mean, it was fun series to watch. Fun while it lasted. Yeah. Braden, how's the family?
00:03:37
Speaker
Family's good. Good, man. Cool. I wonder where the hell it is. How are you? Oh, I'm good. I'm good. I'm just wondering where the hell the server is. Hey, guys. Oh, hello. It's me, Clark. It's just Clark. We know. I got some shorts beers. Yeah, man, that's right. You guys know shorts? Yeah, I got some on. Is that the opposite of tall boys?
00:03:57
Speaker
Anyway, this lineup was curated back in June of 2022 when I took a trip to Bel Air, Michigan. I was up there for work and it was 40 minutes away. I'm like, let's go again. Cause I went five years ago.
00:04:11
Speaker
You brought me a glass and it broke in my dishwasher the first time I washed it. This was my second trip, so. Wait, really? You haven't been there in five years? Four to five years. Probably five years. I guess how far is Shorts from your place in Michigan? Oh, it's a good three and a half. Oh, OK. It's northeast of Traverse City. Oh, OK. It's like five and a half to six hours. Wow. Yeah, they have two facilities, one called the Pull Barn, which they've continued to upgrade over the past few years. Really nice. I stopped there first because, you know. Is it actually a barn?
00:04:41
Speaker
And is there a pole? Not as much of a barn as it used to be. They continue to renovate and make it bigger and nicer, but still pretty cool space. Nice outdoor area. They got a lot of food trucks. They got cows. No cows. Chickens, not a fucking barn. No chickens, no pigs. Horses. But then they've got their home base in Bel Air, a little tiny town about maybe three, four blocks long. But when I got there at like 6.15 Eastern time, it was slammed.
00:05:07
Speaker
On a Tuesday, June 21st. They're popular. Maybe there's a bunch of dads using some Father's Day gift cards. Yeah. Dads, families, everybody was there. Dads and grads, that's June, baby. Nice. Anyways, Clark, thank you for being our server this evening. But what? OK.
00:05:28
Speaker
better way to begin our tour of shorts by having their flagship beer. Does anybody know what their flagship beer is? Obviously. It is. Tony knows. I don't know, but I just looked on Untapped. I've had three beers that I've checked in by then. The one I know by name is Soft Parade. That is not it. Soft Parade is one of their famous ones. It's a fruit beer. It begins with an L.
00:06:00
Speaker
No, am I wrong? There's two L, there's L's. But it begins with an L, is it? Lama? No, the first one. Oh no, it begins with an H. Puma, lupa, luscious. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard that actually. Is it a L? My bad, my bad. Our server is now coming around, pouring us. Ah, fresh from the can. Where these cans... Where these beers fresh when you purchase them?
00:06:25
Speaker
Well, actually, let me rephrase that question. Are you a certified beer server? Yes. Did you buy these from Shorts? These are direct from Shorts in the Delaware. That doesn't get fresh from me. The original location of the pub. Thank you, sir. I will. Smells like a beer. You said this is a pale?
00:06:49
Speaker
India Pale Ale, 7.7%. Always heftier than I think it is. This is my go-to when I am in Michigan. I'm drunk. I love it in the summer.
Summer Beer Favorites
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Speaker
I think I even posted that a few weeks ago. You did. Even just the can. It looks like you're out in nature. Oh, boy. I was not cool about this beer seven years ago. Very rude. I was. Oh, shit. Let's see if I'm about to redeem it. Let me take a sip.
00:07:17
Speaker
what I reviewed it is. Yeah, when did you review it? Seven years ago? Yeah. That was pre-New England IPA. Jesus. I can't believe that I... So May 28th, 2015, I checked this in. I gave it a 2.75 and I said, it's okay. What? I...
00:07:37
Speaker
I highly disagree today. Holy shit. Even the comment, it's okay, is not terrible in itself. No, but unknowing me, that was me kind of just being like, it's okay. Yeah, because that was back when you're early and untapped, you're nice. Oh great, you made alcohol.
00:07:52
Speaker
Oh, cool. I get it. We've talked about this before. Back in the day, we cared. What's the word? What's the phrase I'm looking for? We overthought everything. Yeah, I think we were being a dick. Well, today, it's tasting a little different. And I don't feel like this today, so I'm going to give it a two. That one was better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not that guy anymore. I will say that I feel like seven years ago, this beer would have been less remarkable because a lot of people were making beers like this.
00:08:20
Speaker
But now a lot of everything is like juicy, hazy, low IBUs. This stands out more, is more impressionable. It's a nice like golden color. Yeah, what I like about it, and I guess I don't want to say I'm surprised every time I have it, but I'm surprised every time I have it by... He said he didn't want to say that folks.
00:08:45
Speaker
but he was forced to but because that's all i could say dan is holding a gun to him saying you better but it's malty we got a thinker here guys did i tell you i was surprised no every time i have this interesting no it's malty it's floral it's hoppy it's there's a there's a little bit of juice in there i mean and there's the pine there's kind of a little bit of everything and nothing's overpowering one or the other i was gonna say it's like piney and juicy it's
00:09:09
Speaker
I like Juicy that you expect to know Juicy beer stay but there's a citrus. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've had this before I don't remember if I have checked it in but what's interesting to this is when you said piney I was like my first thought was like piney and resin like that's kind of what's resonating and it
00:09:31
Speaker
Reminds me of a lighter version of six points resin I think that's like nine and a half percent. Yeah in the description night I think it's just nine percent in the description. They're talking about how it's like an Imperial IPA Yeah
00:09:47
Speaker
The bitterness of it and the sweetness of it for being 7.7%, it does come across almost as an Imperial IPA. Well, and the mouth feels a lot heavier too. For sure. Yeah. It's like super coating and like I can literally, my lips kind of sticky. I fucking love this beer, guys. It's really good. I think it's like, to me, this is like a Midwest IPA.
00:10:07
Speaker
That's also in the description. Is it? We're hitting all the notes. You guys didn't even look at. Well, there's even a little bit of the grassiness that you get sometimes in beers and you say Midwest and that was kind of the first thing. Well, when I say Midwest, I'm saying it's like it reminds me. It reminds me of like some Sierra Nevadas, but it's a little more malt forward in terms of like the sweetness and the heft in the mouthfield and like a Sierra Nevada to me. Yeah, I could I could see that. That's what that's what like a quintessential like old school Midwest idea is.
00:10:35
Speaker
I need to add this to my list of IPAs that I want to drink regularly. It says it's got five different hops in here. I was hoping they had listed what hops were in there. I could not find that information. I wonder if that's on purpose.
00:10:56
Speaker
May I point out that we start pretty much, I think the last two years, we started off talking about how we weren't buying any more beer. We were just going to buy more. And I feel like we just buy more and brew less. Yeah. So we're no longer going to make that resolution anymore about not buying beer.
00:11:15
Speaker
Like, so much that like- The resolution's gonna be, I'm gonna try to brew this year. Yeah, exactly. That's resolution. Hey, I did one beer, I'm trying to do one more this year. I mean, we've been talking about this episode for a year and a half, I think, and here we are. Who's to say we'll never, well- Yeah, we might have a whole year of brewing except for barrel-aged beers, you know what I mean? Like, we'll just buy barrel-aged beers, talk to breweries, and then other beers that we drink will just be homebrew beers, right? Dan, you're gonna brew some beers this year. Yeah. I got a Mr. Beer Kid eating this.
00:11:46
Speaker
Delicious. Going around real quick. Brandon, what are you going to give this beer? I'd give it 4.25. Nice, Dan. I'll do the same. Clark. I agree. That's where I'm at tonight. I have it on my phone, ready to go. It's a 4.25 right now. That's a pretty good jump. Pretty good jump. Good job, Dan. 0.5 jump. Solid IPA. Fantastic. Shorts, what else do you have in the bag for us? What do you have in that bag?
00:12:12
Speaker
That's the name of the beer? That would be awesome. But now we are drinking double mmm-kay. Mmm-kay. A double India-style pale lager. Are you sure it's a double Indiana? Unfortunately, that's another beer. We'll get into that some other show. Sorry guys,
Freshness of Pub-Bought Beers
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Speaker
I'm drinking water between like a responsible person. Cluck, you should be a server. Thank you.
00:12:43
Speaker
Ooh, Dan took a whiz in a cup. Brandon, you should get into sound effects works for cartoons and movies. You should be on the Police Academy remake. Oh my goodness, the Fox just... Are they doing a remake? No, I don't know. What sound does that make? Yeah. It was so sophisticated. What does the Fox say? What does the Fox say? So I want you to taste this and then I need to make a comment. Okay. Oh, hello.
00:13:13
Speaker
Let's see. It's kind of a hazy looking beer, too, by the way. Fuck you, Clark. That is a delicious beer. OK, so if I told you this was canned in October, would that surprise you? No. I was actually going to say, actually, it would. I don't think it surprised me, but.
00:13:33
Speaker
I still think it's really good. Yeah, it tastes good. I get a little bit like the... You can. ...after it tastes like a good thing. And I think whatever the last episode, the full episode I was on, we had mentioned shorts very quickly or that I had just been there and I was like, I got some things I gotta wanna say about shorts. This was in their, you know, pick six pack fridge. Like at the brewery. At the brewery. Ooh. And I didn't even think to look at the dates. Because you're at the brewery. I'm like, I'm here. It must be at least within a month or two. Yeah, maybe three. Of course I got back to the hotel and I'm going,
00:14:03
Speaker
Hmm, October, that's a long time ago. A little disappointed, but let's talk about the beer anyway. I'm surprised I didn't pick up on that because every time that I buy a beer randomly and I didn't, if I didn't check the date, I'm like, oh, that sounds good.
00:14:21
Speaker
or, you know, whatever. And I try it. It's like, Oh shit, there's like a weird, like off. So here's the thing in general, I can have like, even if I go to like Miller light or, but like that can sit in my fridge for quite a while. That's different. I'll drink it. And it's like, whatever. Pretty much the same. I'm wondering like if it's a logger, but it's an Imperial.
00:14:46
Speaker
I forgot about that because there's a lager part. There's a lager? There's a lager? Yeah, I missed it. It doesn't drink like a lager. If someone who wanted a lager bought this, they'd be fucking pissed. That's the thing, though. For what it is, I feel like it's now gotten maltier.
00:15:04
Speaker
And again, I don't know what it tastes like fresh, but there's more maltiness. There's some of that similar resin that I was getting from the huma luma luma. Huma luma-licious? It only took me nine years to remember that one.
00:15:20
Speaker
But in all, again, if I didn't know this was October, I wouldn't have really known. There's no like off like oxidation or anything like that, or like metallicness that sometimes you get from the can. With old IPAs, I always like, there is this weird, again, it's not an IPA, but with like super happy beers, like there's a weird like, everything kind of becomes muddled. Like there's no distinguishing,
00:15:50
Speaker
Tastes of like the malt or the hops and or you know, even with the yeast and everything like how was that like almost two-year-old all-day IPA that you drank So that's only one year and it wasn't all it was the all-day vacay. It was just the wheat
00:16:06
Speaker
From your birthday. Yeah, yeah, it tasted fine, but I don't think you can also compare like I mean I don't know how big shorts is but I'm assuming founders is larger than them and probably have some more Yeah, yeah high-tech equipment. It's like zero oxygen
00:16:23
Speaker
Yeah, the comparison there I think is a little different. Plus the all day vacay is a wheat beer, like a hot wheat, something like that. But that was fine, like the one I had before we started, that was good. This isn't bad. No, definitely not. If I would say anything else, if say anything specifically that stands out about it,
00:16:45
Speaker
This does not drink like any lager I've ever had. No, it reminds me of like a double He's the IPA I'm not getting like alcohol bearing, but yeah, they sit in the maltiness to me, but that's
00:17:03
Speaker
That's certainly why I'm getting some of that resin. Yeah. You know? I want to get this fresh. I want to try it fresh, just like any old beer we've had. Yeah, I'd like to get this fresh. This is obviously the double version. They have just an MmK, which is a 5.9. MmK. KBB beer, I believe I saw.
00:17:23
Speaker
that I did not like many years ago, apparently. What'd you give it, a 2.75? I did, actually. So that probably turns into a 3.75 these days. Is this an office space reference? No. South Park? Oh, oh, oh. No, it's OK, not mhm. What was the tagline for the South Park movie? Anybody know? Bigger, longer, uncut.
00:17:47
Speaker
That's what it says here. This is, okay, bigger, bolder, bitterer. So that's exactly what it is. Ding, ding, ding, you've won the first prize of the evening. Thank you, what is that prize? You damned it. I said, I said bigger, bolder, and cut, though. But you came up with the, that it was. Play, Tony is real distraught over his loss in the game show of name that movie the beer is named after.
Humorous Banter and Blue M&Ms
00:18:14
Speaker
He's left the show recording studio out through the green room. He's coming back through the green room, past the bowl of M&Ms that he requests every show. Only blue M&Ms. Sorry, I was just really upset about that. I just really thought I was the one who was going to get it because I got the tagline. But Dan, congratulations. I apologize for leaving you in such an abrupt manner. What did Tony not win?
00:18:39
Speaker
Blue M&Ms Those are my fucking blue M&Ms Alright, so somebody walks up to you. Oh shit. Nobody's walking. Nobody's walking. Nobody's on the tramp. Someone might be. I think we need to wait. Might be mowing the lawn. Might be a little later. I feel like it may be unfair to judge this. Yeah, but it's not what I would expect if you really yeah like we've been saying. Hop to hell out of it.
00:19:03
Speaker
If any of us come across this October, November, whatever, even in December, just now you're like a full year almost. Grab it and let's all try it again. Yeah. At least tell us what you think about it. Not to put you on a spot, but is it seasonal?
00:19:18
Speaker
This was brewed for their happy holiday pack that they come out with in usually around Thanksgiving. So technically not seasonal. Thanksgiving is a good time of year to eat turkey, you know? Yeah. I like turkey. Or toe turkey. Okay, well, you're into that weirdo. I'm just joking. If you guys don't eat meat, it's totally cool. Clark, how many more beers do you think we have?
00:19:43
Speaker
A few, they're going down in ABV. Cool, no that's fine. I think we just have, let's try another one. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. We're bringing out Space Rock. Ooh yeah. Pale Ale. Hope it tastes like a rock. Hopped with some tasty little nuggets of alien technology. Ooh, I'm scared, right?
Intriguing Space Rock Beer
00:20:00
Speaker
I'm intrigued. Like alien rocks in a beer? Or was it like pop rocks? Oh.
00:20:09
Speaker
I'm not even going to say I'm going to put another shot on that one because I am not going to do it. I like the can. The purple and the... Did you say the can's fine? Fine. The can's fine. It holds the beer. Shut up. Very cool. I do believe in the bottles. They used to have a guy riding a spaceship jet ski. If I'm not mistaken, whatever that. I don't know. You know what? I don't rock it.
00:20:34
Speaker
I don't think you have this, by the way, to drink, but what is the one that we really like that is a hitchhiker's ride? Pan-galactic star... Pan-galactic gargle blaster. Gargle blaster. Yeah, you don't have that tonight, right? No, that is not out right now. That is one of my favorites from them. That will be an after-the-final pour sometime.
00:20:53
Speaker
Just drink it without recording it one day. You are right. Oh, yeah. And you pulled it up. Fuck yeah, that's right. Snow. Yeah. Oh, snow maybe. Snowblower space, yeah. It says, because aliens exist. I heard the two license plates. If it's in space, it's just a fucking rocket ship. I don't care what it looks like. Snowmobile, snowblower.
00:21:16
Speaker
You know, pontoon boat, it's a spaceship. Brandon's fucking dying on this cross is what I'm thinking. And if it's in space, it's a rocket ship. Jesus. Oh, Jesus dying on a cross. Look at that. Brandon, did you get a chance to try this one? Nope. OK. Dan, how about you, buddy? Will you try it? Nope. Fuck that. Not you guys all admit it's a goddamn rocket ship. Yeah. This is good. It's a lighter bodied for sure. It's refreshing. I get like a wheat sort of.
00:21:45
Speaker
Texture to me. Mouth feeling, yeah. There you go with that texture. Yeah, it's a little bumpy in texture for me. Reminds me when I have wheat bread. You know what sucks? I wish that we didn't have those last two. I wish we started with this. I'm going to say that. Sorry, Clark. Whoops. No, no, it's OK. I'm not knocking your curation. It's terrible. But I feel like I'm missing what I would probably really like about this beer because I still have bitterness.
00:22:14
Speaker
I finished off this whole bunch of water for the last two beers, and I still have residual bitterness from those last two beers. I still have that, but I feel like they make this more refreshing to me. Yeah, but I don't get anything else. It's kind of like... I'm going to do what Brandon's doing. He's swishing around like he's using it as a mouthwash. I mean, I'm not sure there's a ton to get here. It's a 5%. What kind of... That helps. Is it say what style? It's a pale ale. A pale ale. Just pale ale. And now, as Dan noticed, it is a...
00:22:42
Speaker
Gluten reduced beer. It's not gluten free. Crafted to remove gluten. Sorry, that's the gluten leaving my body. Fantastic. No, I have no problem with gluten. I love gluten free beer. No, I swirled it around in my mouth a little bit to kind of get that side bitterness off my tongue.
00:23:06
Speaker
I like it. It's not a bad beer. It's interesting. It's 55 IBU, which feels on the high side for paleo, isn't it? Yes, very much so. But what were the other ones? The other ones were, what, 200 IBUs and 300 IBUs? The MmK was 78. Huma was 70. So yeah, we're up there. That's pretty high.
00:23:24
Speaker
It's good. It's refreshing. I like it. You know, we didn't go around the room last time for the IPL. Brandon, what would you give that last one? I know you can't give it a fair review because it's kind of old, but I don't feel like it really affected us. No, I probably for what it was, I'd give it a four.
00:23:45
Speaker
If I'm like drinking that just like straight up drinking it maybe give it a 375 but if I like someone handed to me I was looking for a lager even if it was an imperial lager
00:23:57
Speaker
uh three yeah but this is where i go like for what it was now having it fresh is that's what when you say for what it was i didn't know if you were saying for a lager no no no no just for like the taste in general yeah yeah i'm kind of excluding the style in that rating just how i like did you enjoy it yeah yeah yeah yeah i wish i had it fresh i think my score comes down a little bit because it's almost nine months old it is nine nine months old so it's like a baby being born
00:24:27
Speaker
It was. Just like a baby being born. Except it was a baby. Full gestation. I gave this specific can knowing it was canned in October. I gave it a 3.5.
00:24:37
Speaker
Yeah, I'd probably go there with you. For what it tasted like, I'd go four based on. It coming direct, literally direct from your base. That's the part that annoys me though. Yeah, I know. I would be upset too. But me trying it, I liked it. But if I look, but if I got that, like based on taste, not knowing what kind of beer it was, that's a four that I like. Based on knowing how old it is and what type of beer it is, that's like a 3.25. Just because like I wouldn't tell anybody who like
00:25:07
Speaker
hey i love loggers oh shit try this beer i've got this lager here like that's that's like a hot bomb for a lager sorry shorts um this one on the other hand space rock rocks in your face is there a movie reference to this one oh do you know not that i can tell bigger longer uncut damn brandon um if dan was walking down the street and then dan was like
00:25:33
Speaker
Oh, sorry. I thought you were going to impersonate me again. Hey, man. Dan, that's not how you sound. I did base the character off of Dan, actually, before meeting him. Oh, you did? That makes sense. Yeah. Zach, Brad. Oh, yeah. I wonder if Zach and Brad will run into each other today. Might be. Oh, shit. Brandon, Dan, don't worry. Dan, fuck Brandon. What do you think about Space Rock?
00:26:09
Speaker
It's like mouthwash. I'm going to go three and a half on this one. Now what if I tell you this was Camden, December. Was it? Yes. Oh, yeah. I was going to hold back on that one. I just wanted to see what you guys thought. So this one I didn't get. Not as bad. I would also go with three, five, but I was going to say I don't get the like,
00:26:31
Speaker
the hoppiness fading like I did in the last one in terms of age. But it wasn't super hoppy to me. I didn't get the bad taste from it, but I didn't get much. What was the style again? Pale ale. Yeah, I mean, I suppose that style lends itself to not being as noticeable when it's a little bit older, when you're not. Depending on the brewery. Geez. True. We've talked about some of these overly hopped pale ale.
00:26:55
Speaker
Yeah, we're looking at you three Floyds. Clark, where do you go with this? I go 3-5. 3-5? Yeah, 3-5 is, you know what? It's at this point almost eight months old.
00:27:12
Speaker
Not bad, not bad for being an eight month old pale ale. I didn't, I think I didn't, wasn't able to give it a fair shake just because I feel like I still had some residual hop bitterness from the last two beers. But yeah, three five, pretty good. I like it, I would, again, would like to try it fresh, but I am not gonna kick this beer out of bed unless my wife's like, why is that beer in bed? I have no idea what you're talking about. I would drink this outside in a hot summer day. We'll be right back.
00:28:06
Speaker
But you knock me down, pick me up Use and abuse me, please I don't care, no I don't care
00:28:32
Speaker
Watch your way
00:29:03
Speaker
See me on the ground I don't know what to do with myself
00:30:12
Speaker
sunshine and let these feelings wash away, away, away
00:30:45
Speaker
Finally. I'm so excited. It's weird. It doesn't look like it. Chocolate sauce, IPA. And we're back. We are back. Hey, guys. How was that break? It was lovely. It was eventful. Good. A lot of conversations. A lot of sound effects. A lot of fucking Doubting Thomas's. Chocolate sauce.
00:31:11
Speaker
Oh, shit. This is the shorts episode. If you don't know that, I don't know why. I don't know how you would get into the second half of a podcast without knowing what happened in the first half.
00:31:20
Speaker
Has it ever happened to you guys? You're listening to a podcast, you're like, oh, shit, I'm in the second hand. I should have started halfway through. Oh, I saw where the break music was. I don't know, let's do a four minute cover of Pink Floyd's Time, which if anybody listened to the last episode, that was fluid minds. Hey, I've got an idea. That was pretty good. Really? Let's do an impromptu mystery beer. What do we got, gentlemen? This, sir. I already have a guess. All right, well, guess. It's old. It's from last January. January 2019.
00:31:48
Speaker
So, I mean, I don't know for sure, but this reminds me of... That's the point. You obviously don't know for sure. Taking a stab in the dark. It reminds me of beers I've had before that have like passion fruit in it. There is... What style of beer? I'm gonna say it's a wheat beer. Yeah, like a wheat beer with passion fruit. What are you tasting? What do you got? I got blood orange a little bit. Some citrusy. I need some blood orange.
00:32:12
Speaker
When I tell you what it is, you're going to go, oh, yeah. I'm getting grapefruit. Yeah, OK. I like grapefruit. Grapefruit more than blood. I'm starting to get more citrus now that I'm taking a couple sips. All right, before you finish it, I'm going to tell you that it is shorts, margarita, IPA. Oh. Feel that salt when you bring the cup here. I'm serious. I'm also eating pretzels. Is it a gosa? It's an IPA. You said IPA, sorry.
00:32:41
Speaker
Yeah. You can get the salt essence. There's some salt in there. I'm much on pretzels. There is. I mean, it's like a little bit of taste in it. In the air. 12 pretzels in and Tony's like, I can totally taste this salt. I didn't know I could taste it. Might be power suggestion. I do feel like it dries my tongue out.
00:32:55
Speaker
Sip. For sure. But I think salt in the beer, like Tony is sat by the ocean. It's kind of got that same mouthfeel where... Yeah, it's delicious. The salt kind of dries it a little bit. It gives it a drier finish, I think. Leaves you one more. Yeah. Instead of an IPA where you usually get that juiciness, you get the juiciness up front when you're tasting whatever they're using for margarita. Does it say what they're flavoring?
00:33:20
Speaker
I mean it's just this lime agave and pink Himalayan sea salt. There's like... I totally knew that wasn't regular maple salt. I don't get lime. I get like... This is definitely not kosher. Pythian. Or bloom tree. Oh no! It's very bitter. It's like bitter?
00:33:42
Speaker
I'm sorry, did I fucking stutter again? No, I mean like, like, hobby bitter? No, I, let me, again, let me finish. I was shocked. Then you can speak. Pithy. Like, you know, the pith of a fucking citrus fruit. You ever eaten like the white pith of a fucking grapefruit, or maybe like on an orange, just a little bit bitter because you couldn't get it all off? Actually... Shut the fuck up right now, Clark. This is between me and Dan.
00:34:05
Speaker
My job is not malign. I actually grew up with a grapefruit tree in my backyard. Oh, okay. So you're familiar with pith?
Citrus Pith Beer Comparison
00:34:11
Speaker
I am. Okay. Are you getting that from this beer at all? Yeah. The pith that you're talking about. I swear to God, I'm going to throw this. I'm tearing up the hip hop sticker. Yeah, that's kind of what I, that's the bitterness that I get. I'm not saying like it's a super like bitter beer, but the bitterness that I am getting from this beer, it's pithy. Okay. I didn't think I'd say pithy. I'm right there with you, Tony. Fucking time's a one episode. Yeah. You had a hair full of pith.
00:34:34
Speaker
I just pith my pants. No, the pith of a lime. Do you not understand? We just went over this. I'm sorry. It's like a pith of a grapefruit to me, though. Okay, lime. Not for me. Brandon, what do you feel about this beer? Or how do you feel about this beer? It's the pith. It's good. Now that you say lime, I guess I can kind of see where that's going.
00:34:59
Speaker
the I do like the dryness that you're kind of getting from the salt and I do as the more I drink it the more I kind of am I actually getting kind of the flavor of the salt or whatever the saltiness yeah you want a pretzel no um overall I mean good beer it's really light refreshing
00:35:17
Speaker
Like probably a hot summer day beer. Like if you're in your backyard? Totally. 6.6%. You know what? Heavier than I would have guessed. Shit, yeah. That's what I was going to say. I'd say like four and a half, five. I was like, this is probably a nice, easy, light beer. No. 6.6? No, it's fucking knocking me out of my ass while I'm mowing the lawn, right? You sue shorts because you lost your foot. I mowed my foot over. Oh my god.
00:35:45
Speaker
What would you get out of five, baby? I'd do four. All right. Yeah.
00:35:52
Speaker
Daniel. Brandon keeps stealing my... I know, right there. But there's like, I would never call this an IPA. It's a hive mind. Really? I agree with you, Dan. Yeah, I would never call this an IPA, but it's like, it's good, the saltiness, like Brandon was saying, I'm starting to get it like on my lips and stuff like that, or my lips feel like they're... I snuck a pretzel under your beard when I'm looking. During our argument. It's a very... I really do like it, yeah. I'd say four.
00:36:19
Speaker
Like I'm not gonna say it's a goes it but that goes a style is not my like favorite style Which is probably what's taking it down a little bit, but I think it's like a well-done version of it Clark thalam you I'm right at four mostly because of the execution of the beer that salt dry. It was that I got murdered. Yeah, exactly
00:36:39
Speaker
No, the dryness I can actually literally feel as I mentioned earlier is when I bring the glass to my mouth. It's interesting. Would it just hit your lips like this? Yeah. Nice. It does say to drink with a salt rim and a little slice of lime in there. Why didn't you do that for us?
00:36:56
Speaker
That comes at the deluxe serving. That's it. Come next week. 2024, maybe. The pre-fixed menu. Yeah. I think I'm with you guys. Do you think that the IPA is like a marketing thing? What do you mean? It doesn't taste like an IPA to me. But to call it an IPA. I agree. Well, I was going to say, I'll give it a. If you could have told me it was a ghost, I would have been. Yeah. Well, that's, I mean, you and I both said, Dan, we thought it was a wheat beer right off the bat. And I still kind of go with that. Again, that's two beers now that are
00:37:26
Speaker
I'm sure it's where it's like, it's saying one thing, but I'm getting something else, which is not a bad thing. It's just, I feel like it's, it's kind of misleading. Um, this would be something like, I wouldn't have bought this for my wife to enjoy because it says it's an IPA had this not said it was an IPA.
00:37:45
Speaker
or it's like a wheat beer or something, or just a margarita-style ale, that to me, I'd be like, oh, you might like this because, and that's kind of how it comes across to me. Like I said, the bitterness comes from like a pithiness of citrus fruit. There is a nice saltiness to it. I'm also going to go with a four, but I don't consider it an IPA. Much like Three Floyds, fucking Zombie Dust is not a pale ale.
00:38:09
Speaker
Let me tell you... Oh, we're not there. Yeah, it wasn't episode, like, 29 or whatever that was. We already went there. And 37. And... 52. 52. And as well. C-crack. That's my sound effect for a can opening. So I was eating a pretzel so I didn't eat my mic. Now we're getting crazy. Good. What's it got? Soft braid. Peaches and cream, high gravity golden ale with peaches and milk.
00:38:42
Speaker
I wish this was the mystery beer. The mystery beer. The mystery beer is Peaches and Creme. Peaches and Cream. Peaches and Cream. Oh, the song. I know. I was trying to switch it. 112? Was that right? Yeah, 112. 212. Peaches and Cream. 212 Brew Club. We did our own musical called Peaches and Cream. Did you already say what this was? I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Are you busy texting while you're on the fucking show, Dan? I just found out that my best friend is going to be moving to Chicago.
00:39:12
Speaker
Oh, shit. There's not a spot on the show. He doesn't drink. Okay, well now there is a spot on the show. We're looking for someone new to replace one of us. Who's it gonna be? We'll find out on the Maltese this year. Be sure to tune in in December 2022. One of us is getting the axe. Clark, take us to this beer, baby. Peaches and Cream. It's a specialty beer from Shorts. It says it's a classic from our storied 2007 Imperial beer series.
00:39:40
Speaker
I didn't know that existed. Short, you're teaching us something new every day. There's a wacky amount of fresh peach and milk sugar in this brew, and boy howdy does it taste like dessert in a glass. And I'm just reading from the webpage. That's good. You'll be pleased as a peach with this treat. 8.3 ABV. Holy shit, you said the ABV was going down.
00:40:02
Speaker
He lied. You didn't say it was going back up. That's the mystery of my beer tastings. I don't know what I'm doing. Where is the dessert and the glass? Also, what's the date on this beer? I think it was April. April? Okay. I would like this beer to stay in April.
00:40:21
Speaker
I don't like being a jerk about beers, but sometimes... You gotta be honest. You're a jerk, I gotta be honest. Sometimes I'm a jerk, right. No, Dan, you're right. Sometimes I am a jerk. I would know. You get the brunt of it. Now shut up and let the adults talk. I don't really care for this beer. It is for it being a Peaches and Cream Imperial Blonde. Is that correct? High gravity Golden New.
00:40:50
Speaker
Like at first, like when it hits my tongue, there's a nice little sweetness to it. It smells good. There's this weird bitterness that goes over my tongue that fucking like, I don't have bitter desserts. So it's kind of like, I don't know, man. It's almost like a... I feel like something's wrong with this. The bitterness to me is like the high alcohol bitterness. Yeah. Okay, there you go. Tasting the alcohol. Yeah, it's like taking away from what I think maybe they were trying to go for.
00:41:17
Speaker
May I say this? Please. No. Am I getting a hint of Bourbon County wheat wine? Oh, shit. There's something in here that's reminding me of something. I don't know. Let me go get one. And I think it's the wheat wine. I don't know what that is. I think I can see that. What is this reminding me of? I feel like it's the sweet and the bitterness, like the alcohol, maybe. Yeah. Brandon, go grab your wheat wine so we can all take a sip real quick.
00:41:43
Speaker
My comments on this, I kind of like the peach flavor. I do like the peach flavor. The sweetness is very nice. I'm not a sweet person. A sweet beer person. I feel like I like milk stouts, but when milk sugar or lactose, whatever you want to call it, is added in anything on the light beer, I hate it. And I can taste it. And that's the end flavor for me on this. I don't like it. It reminds me of a milkshake IPA.
00:42:11
Speaker
Yeah, I like the I really do like the peaches and like it kind of Smells almost I mean this peach comes to in a smell for me Yeah, maybe and more like because of the sweetness is coming through the candy like like candy drink peach. Yeah Oh, yeah, I see what you're what you're getting at. I wish that Sorry, I know we're still going around like I really wish that that bitterness was not there because This would be a really nice beer
00:42:37
Speaker
In my opinion, like I get what you're saying about the sweetness, how that's like a turn off for you, but like the peach, like there's a tartness to it too, but there's just that like, I kept going, I keep going back to it, hoping that, that bitterness. Yeah, I wish it was done as a lighter, like a 5%. So I just drank the rest of it and it was good.
00:42:57
Speaker
Breathing like exhaling was like an alcohol burn coming up almost like and I wouldn't normally expect that like a little over eight and a half percent beer Especially for a golden nail. Yeah Well, it's like what did you call a high-gravity golden? Yeah, but and so that's where I'm wondering what makes it high-gravity like this
00:43:19
Speaker
Mmm, they couldn't, that's illegal to do. I can't tell the slushy beer makers. It's from the Imperial beer series, so they were... No, I'm not assuming that they did that, but just the way that alcohol burn kind of came through, it's surprising for something that even that's, you know, a high-gravity golden ale, just the way it was coming through is just way more than expected. Imagine Cross of Gold being an Imperial-style beer.
00:43:43
Speaker
It'll probably be delicious. But I can kind of see that. Without peaches and cream. That's a great point. When you said that, I'm like, oh yeah. Minus all the peaches and cream and junk. Would that because of how... I want to say simple, but how...
00:44:03
Speaker
almost like delicate and easy a golden ale is. Is that why that booziness, that boozy bitterness and burn maybe is coming through a bit more? Could be. I do have a question for you guys. Yeah. If this was like slightly spiced and released in like November, December,
00:44:22
Speaker
I feel like it would be like a good like seasonal winter beer or fall beer. Like a good beer. Like a peach cobbler almost. Like to sit in your backyard when there's a fire and you've got like a hoodie on it. But what does that think spring? I'm thinking. Yeah. What is the spice I'm thinking of that I put in my pumpkin ale?
00:44:39
Speaker
Well, allspice. Allspice, thank you. Even like a little cinnamon in that just would have probably... Well, I made me think of when you said that, the Lost Palette from Guizhago and a little bit of cinnamon. I keep forgetting about that beer. That's really fucking good.
Creative Fruit Flavors at Shorts
00:44:57
Speaker
Um, but yeah, this is, this is not a hit for me and it's unfortunate because I know that shorts does some cool creative beers. This one just not for me. Brandon going around the room right now. What do you, what do you land it on? If you don't want to be the first one to rate it, it's okay. It's okay. I'm going to give this one a three. All right.
00:45:14
Speaker
Daniel, son. I was going to go with three, two, five, because I can kind of see where they're going with it. And I just know it's not for me. So I'm kind of like hedging a little bit. I'm three, two, five. That's interesting. I'm glad I had two and a half ounces of it, three ounces. Yeah, I'm going like two and a half. It's just that bitterness really kind of kills it for me.
00:45:37
Speaker
For what it is, again, for what it is and for what it tastes like, those two things combined, that makes it kind of a two and a half for me. Sorry, shorts. I really wanted to just give this a higher one. I can't. Peaches and cream. We're not doing that. Give it a higher one. Steve Woodward's here. Steve, tell us what you think about this beer. It's really fucking good. No. I wonder if there's gluten in this next beer.
00:46:06
Speaker
It's not, but when I said we're going lower in ABV a couple of years ago, that was a total lie. Yeah. This next beer is chucked full of gluten goodness. Gluten and booze. We're moving on to...
00:46:19
Speaker
a different variation of one of their popular beers that one of you mentioned at the start of the show. This is Double Soft Parade. Ooh, Double Soft Parade. Didn't know that existed. 9% ABV. Holy shit. A fruit ale brewed with double the strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, and blackberries. Ooh, I love it. I'm excited about this. Double Soft. Have you had this before? And guess what? It's from?
00:46:39
Speaker
The 2007 Imperial Beer Series. Ooh. Is it from 2007? Cool. Canned in August 2007. As the resident short-speared expert, does regular soft parade also have the other fruit other than the strawberry? Yes, Uncle. Right? I believe so. Can you pour a little bit on that peaches and cream we got in there, baby? Ooh. Oh, boy. Hey, is there a label on that can? I kinda wanna save that label.
00:47:06
Speaker
I like this. You can tear that off. Thanks, man. What is that? It sounded like a soft parade. Ooh, that smells delicious coming off the bat there. It is a parade. Whoa, the smell on it. Yeah. That's interesting. Did you take a sip? No. I haven't taken a sip yet, but I haven't either.
00:47:35
Speaker
If this was what the peaches and cream smelled like, talking about a dessert beer, this one smells a little more dessert-y to me. Yeah, smells really good. It smells a little funky to me too. Yeah, I get like diacetyl, but like a buttered popcorn almost on the smell. Have you tasted it yet? That means you have COVID. It's been there somewhere. The Long COVID. Dan, brought to you by the Long COVID. I wonder what you guys think about the taste. The longest COVID.
00:48:05
Speaker
It changes as it sits in your mouth. It's like my first sipping walk. Oh, this is delicious And then it kind of got a little weird a little I am in this mate totally be in my head, but I took a sip and I'm getting that popcorn butter. Yeah
00:48:23
Speaker
So I'm not getting the popcorn butter thing. Only a certain percentage of the population can pick up diacetyl. And I vape so that diacetyl is always in my mouth. That's not a lie. Sounds erotic. Not. I'll say this, is anybody... Tell them I said hi. Is anybody getting any strong bitterness in the middle of their tongue by any chance?
00:48:46
Speaker
Yeah, well I'm getting it. Yeah, a little bit. I'm getting the same bitterness that I got. Maybe I have COVID, I don't know. I'm getting the same bitterness that I got from the peaches and cream. And it's a big turn off for me. Like, I'm not getting that. I'm getting the fruitiness, but there's just like this astringent like bitterness. Like, take a sip, I get that fruitiness. Yeah.
00:49:09
Speaker
I see what you guys are saying maybe about the butterness, but then there's just this off-putting bitterness I do not like about this beer. Yeah, I agree. That's the one, the rest I do like, but that, you're right. It's really good up front. Yeah, exactly. It's like residual beer that's the same. That's the butter.
00:49:30
Speaker
Do we think that like, because this is 8.8 or whatever you said, or what? Uh, it is 9. Yeah, is it just like, does it seem like all their high ABV beers kind of come off like that? For me, that's what it's kind of feeling like for tonight. But a little different since it's a fruit. The first two were good. Well, the first one was really good. Second one was really old, but it didn't taste like shit. Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:56
Speaker
Um... I like this one much more than the last one. I don't like that one.
00:50:02
Speaker
I don't really want either. There's something that's going on in the back of my mouth that's just not making me want to keep doing this. It is the buttered popcorn. I keep getting it. To me, it's funny that you're saying, that's why I love it. And I fucking love going to the movies. This bitterness, it just lingers. And it sits there. And as it's been in your mouth for literally 20 seconds, it starts to grow. Well, and it's funny that you keep mentioning the diaspora. It now is like, oh.
00:50:32
Speaker
It's like a butter, like, you know you got butter in your mouth? Yeah, when you put a stick of butter in your mouth, yeah. So you guys take a butter, okay? So you're walking down the street and someone's like, hey man, you ever put a stick of butter in your mouth? Like, of course. It's like eating at a load test with nothing but the butter. Exactly, exactly. Or you're at the movie theater, like, I'm gonna pour this imitation. No. Like, there's a coating in your mouth. I've got some upstairs. Okay, how about this? Like, fucking microwave popcorn.
00:50:55
Speaker
I say wait, that coats your mouth like that. That's what I have right now in my mouth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it reminds me. And then it's this. So I haven't made microwave popcorn in a long time, but when you have the butter microwave popcorn, you empty the bag, and then that crust that's kind of on the bag from the butter that you lick, that's what it tastes and smells like. Yeah. I've never had a beer that strongly in my mouth. This is weird. It's kind of blowing my mind, because I always heard about it, and I never was really able to pick it up. I had the bitterness, and now it feels like my mouth is coated with
00:51:24
Speaker
At least it doesn't taste like boxwood. That is cat piss. Boxwood is cat piss. Hey Clark, did you think this is the way the shorts episode was gonna go?
00:51:36
Speaker
No. I was really excited about this. I feel like... Now, I feel like we can have a part two sometime. Absolutely. And do more of their... I guess I did end up getting some of their crazier beers. No, I mean... On purpose, because, I mean, I've probably had... I'm not disappointed by this, by any means. I'm glad we're doing it. No, it's been really interesting. It is interesting. And shorts, just so you know, if you are listening to this episode,
00:51:59
Speaker
We might be feeling certain ways about this beer, about these beers, but we still do like your brewery. We're definitely doing a part two sometimes. Yeah. And I'm going to grab a different. Still, we still buy shorts beers out of Michigan. When some of the flagship, not the flagship, the special releases, they only do in Michigan. Yeah. Brandon, we're not going to talk about that. That one beer that we've commented on. Oh yeah. We'll leave that one for another time. What beer is that guys? That beer.
00:52:27
Speaker
Michigan, IPA, summer, IPA. That's weird, because I like that one, you guys. Okay, but you didn't have it like a couple more weeks after. Oh, we didn't fall off at that point. Oh yeah. Real weird. Hey, what was the one we had in fall?
00:52:39
Speaker
That was good. That was fantastic. And the label's amazing. Yeah, it's super cool. The summer one. It was like the first time I had it was like, this is fine. All right. Well, I guess we'll go out and say it. It was fine. And then the second one I had, I dumped after having half of it. It was real soapy and weird and lacking. I think it's the mosaic hops that got you on that one.
00:53:01
Speaker
but then it was so watery and i gave him i gave you guys yeah i thought it was okay he's like oh you gave it to me because it's bad i'm like no thought you guys would want this um brandon overall uh and this beer what are you going with i mean go with you go with your god 275 okay
00:53:23
Speaker
Dan, hip-hop's bringing that funk. I only said that because you said smoking a funky. 275, 275. 275, the highest. Yeah, I'm going to go with... I'm not rating this. I'm probably not going to drink this ever again.
00:53:42
Speaker
I won't seek this out unless I know for sure there's something you need to know. I didn't know that was an option, you son of a bitch. I know, you can't. I mean, sorry. If I'm going to read it, then I would have, I probably like, so if I went untapped and I'm going to check it in, 0.25. Do you think this is worse than the last one? Absolutely. Wow. If not.
00:54:00
Speaker
They're there to me. They're equal. So this yeah, cuz the other thing is is they're equal There's the other one two and a half two point seven five. No, they're not equal them. You're right. They're not equal That's why we need you here's a fact checker. Yeah, but I was gonna say the other one I'm not very good
00:54:18
Speaker
I feel like the other one like came out how they intended and we didn't really like it. This one clearly, like the diacetyl is an off flavor. It's not supposed to be there. Well, that's why I like it even less. You don't know if it wasn't hopped with buttered popcorn. Or hopped with sticks of butter. This was canned in February, so... Ooh, that went positive. No, that shouldn't, yeah. Sorry, shorts. We still love it. Has anybody ever dry hopped a beer with...
00:54:45
Speaker
Popcorn, I'm sure yeah about yeah beer for movies. Oh, yeah beer for movies. Well, yeah. Yeah these popcorn and Is it butter? No, it's butter popcorn. Maybe not. I thought it was I want to say it one more time Orland biscuit Clark are there any more beers left in your we have
00:55:08
Speaker
Uh, no, there aren't any more beers. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. But there's one more can of alcoholic beverage. What? Some of you may know that Shorts does have a cider line. Oh, I didn't know that. And I thought, why not? Especially this one. By the way, that's my name backwards. Why not? Star-cut ciders is the name of their ciders line. Just boot dance. This one's called Squishy. Squishy.
00:55:37
Speaker
It is a cherry hard cider. And where better to bring a cherry hard cider back from is the cherry capital of the Midwest. The cherry place. Cherry capital of the Midwest. Is that where Abe Lincoln chopped the cherry tree? Yeah, old Abe Lincoln chopping down up him. It doesn't matter. It's all fake like the Bible. Yeah, that's right. I said it.
00:56:03
Speaker
Callers? Any callers want to chime in? George Washington certainly chopped that cherry tree. I was there. George Washington was in the Bible as well. George Washington when he was Jesus in the Bible. My favorite character from the Bible, George Washington. Ooh boy. That smells okay. I'm not a huge cider fan. I've had some of their ciders. It smells like cherry. Five years ago at the pub and I enjoyed them.
00:56:33
Speaker
Hey. Hey. This. Oh, what happened? Tony's got something to say. Where are we going? I want to know what everybody else thinks. I want Tony to go first this time. Yeah, you had the first reaction. He had the first hey. Now.
00:56:52
Speaker
Hey, Daddy 4. Hey, Daddy 4. Very good. I really like this. I get cherry. I get apple. It's a little bit of an acidic burn. I was about to say something real stupid. That was pretty stupid. You want to know? Yeah. I'll admit it. So I say, yeah, apple. You're right. That does taste like apple. And you want to know why, ladies and gentlemen? Because cider is made of apples. Oh, shit.
00:57:20
Speaker
You heard it here first, folks. Honestly, this might be breaking news, ladies and gentlemen. Well, yeah, Apple, yeah. You heard it here first in the malting hour. Good take to you. Siders, mate, from Apple. It was really good. Before I finish my review, I want to know what you guys are thinking about it. Start with Clark. We're going backwards. I like it. I guess I wish it was more of a dark cherry flavor. I could do that. That'd be nice.
00:57:48
Speaker
Solid cherry, tiny hit of tart. It's not like huge cherry. A little tart, a little sweet, just like you. And then that apple that really comes through from where, I'm not sure where that
Cherry Capital and Cider Connection
00:57:57
Speaker
comes from. Yeah, it's another diastole thing, by the way. Dan? All right, so this beer comes in like three parts. Oh, here's the thing. It's not a beer. It's a cider. Oh, sorry. So the cider. Put that back in your mind. This cider. Do you need to go back and revisit because it's not a beer? No, no, no, no, no, no. OK, let's make it true. This cider comes in like three ways for me. It's like I like the initial flavor. OK.
00:58:15
Speaker
But then it kind of goes in this like a law of like medicinal-ness to me. But then I like the aftertaste, which is where I get that's heart is from. All right. Okay. So it's like, I like the beginning and the end. I don't really like the middle. Gotcha. That makes sense.
00:58:28
Speaker
I'm in the same exact boat. Aroma-wise, it's got that nice cherry aroma. My first sip, it literally felt like cherry cough syrup for a minute. And then I was like, ooh. I went back. I kind of swirled the glass a little bit, went back for another sip. It was a lot more subtle, but still a little tinge of medicinal-ness that I'm getting in the back.
00:58:53
Speaker
that I can totally get past and completely enjoy this beer. It's a cider. A quick side note, the cherry capital of the world actually is Traverse City. Oh, shit. We're actually coming from the place where the most cherries are. So with that being said, this, other than, what was the first period? Probably the capital of making a cherry flavored medicine. Oh my god, delicious. Thank you. That would be my number one. This would be my number two of the night. So this is very interesting. Just a side note.
00:59:21
Speaker
Uh, Traverse City produces over 75% of the world's tart cherries. Whaaaat? She's telling me that the, probably the shit we get from Aeris, they're, they're, they're, uh, blush ciders probably. Maybe with that? I can see that. Um, thanks for that, uh, information. Uh, I get, so I understand the medicinal thing. I actually don't have a sensitivity to cherry medicinal, like cherry bubbly. I- Hold on, hold on. What about Mon Cherie? You didn't like that.
00:59:51
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I didn't. I'd like to revisit that. That too is distal. But, like, bubbly the water, you know, carbonated water, bubbly cherry. I know people who can't stand it because it reminds them of cherry cough syrup. Where to me, it does not taste like that and I could drink it. I agree with that. I'm not getting the medicinal. Yeah, I don't get the medicinal at all. I get tart cherry and apple and that's it. But I also feel like
01:00:18
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How your brain is wired and maybe a relationship. Maybe I don't think I had a lot of cherry cough syrup when I was a kid. Maybe you guys did. I don't know. I love cherry. I love cherry cough syrup. No, I was going to say the. That is my scissor. I like the Wisconsin Belgian red. I love.
01:00:36
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I love cherry. Well that tastes like cherry Jolly Ranchers. Or even um, am I blocking it? A creeks. I like creeks a lot. But this doesn't... I would not say that Wisconsin Belgian Red from New Glares tastes anything like this. No. Two different types of cherry. I mean one thing I have learned from this episode, I feel like Shorts is really good at utilizing fruits.
01:01:00
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Like, I like the peach. At what point would you say that they've utilized the fruits of all the low-ended stuff you've rated their stuff? Like the 2.75? No, but every time I've had it, like the peach one, I liked the peach one. Yeah, I didn't like the rest of it. This one, I liked the initial and the end cherry flavor. It's just that like weird medicinal. I also liked the fruit in the last one, but it was just a little overpowered by that daiso.
01:01:24
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No, the soft parade, I kept getting different hints of all those fruits and it was a true fruit flavor. Absolutely. There was fake. You could taste the different fruits in there. Same with this. Good call.
01:01:39
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going around the board one more time. Oh, we already did it, nevermind. Oh wait, a rating, rating. Brandon, what would you give this one? What'd you give it? What'd you give it? What'd you give it? I'd give it a three, seven, five, actually. Whoa. Three, two, five. Oh, Clark. I'm with you. With who? I'm sorry. I know you're with us. Let the audience decide. What did he mean? Three, seven, five, three, seven, five. Yeah, I'd go three, seven, five, almost four on this. This is my second favorite one of, uh,
01:02:03
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I would say it's my second favorite even though that I was getting that like hinge of medicinalness like it It wasn't in an off-putting way. So And I kind of subsided as I kind of went through it drink the rest of it. So yeah
01:02:17
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Nice lineup, Clark. Yeah, Clark. Thank you. It was fun. Some interesting ones. We'll do a more of a standard show sometime. Sure. Nine years from now. If you're still working here. Yeah, if you're still working here. We'll find out who gets the X during the Maltese 2022. Are we jello wrestling? What's that? Are we jello wrestling? Well, now we know who's getting the X. Overall, you guys. Overall, short, we still love you.
01:02:44
Speaker
Terrible the ones we had you know they were misses Be honest, but which is funny because the first what year or two? I've never had a miss from shorts. I mean literally for two years. I bring a six-pack back every two weekends And we go this is delicious. Yeah, everything was still one of my favorite breweries. Yeah for sure
01:03:02
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Especially out of Michigan. I do want to say that that cherry one I think is my third favorite. You guys were saying it was your second. Sure. I think I like the margarita even though I got zero IPA on it. I think the margarita was my number. Margarita was good. Yeah, margarita was good. And space rock was okay. Space rock? Yeah. The squishy and the space rock are probably 3-4 for me. I don't know which one. Squishy. They are pretty colors all the way. Humalubalicious is definitely number
Favorite Beers Discussion
01:03:24
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one. Yeah, I think we're all agreeing on that. Margarita is for sure number two for me and then the other.
01:03:29
Speaker
All right, the IPL is up there, which is crazy. Yeah, it is. It's good. But... But why? I keep knocking his eyes out. I know, but how did it taste? Old. Holy shit.
Expectations for Revolution's Lumberstruck
01:03:41
Speaker
Hey, if we want to talk about expectations, let's talk about Revolution's Lumberstruck, am I right? Next time. Brandon? Oh, wait, hold on. Clark, welcome back again. And thank you for bringing the beers. What the fuck, Dan? Shut up! My pleasure.
01:03:55
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Thanks, Clark. We appreciate it. And we look forward to doing it again. Dan?
Humorous Mic Exchange
01:04:00
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Yeah, thin fucking ice. Skating. Barely. One skate, laces untied. We can't fire everybody who's got a good mic now. Oh, yeah, that's right. Hey, can we have that mic if we fire you? No. Clark, you might be going to the end of the air. Brandon, I love you, buddy. Love you too, bud. See you guys next week. Bye.
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01:04:35
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01:04:53
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So I will say...
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