Intro
Introduction and Podcast Purpose
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Welcome to Simulation Happy Hour. I'm Mel Barlow. I'm Jane Frost.
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yeah um Welcome to Simulation Happy Hour. I'm Mel Barlow.
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I'm Jane Frost. I'm Jenny Bassett And I'm Kerry Reid-Searl Welcome. So this is happy hour, guys. So what's your... What drinking currently?
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I've got a skinny flat white. Well, I'm on the road, so... Sorry, what have you got, Kerry? I've got a long black. I'm on the road today, so I'm on coffee, but I would normally be having a martini espresso.
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Giddy up. I'm English. I'm English breakfast tea. Yep. Excellent. So I just want to highlight that we we're all academics and on this podcast, our opinions are our own.
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So this is the inaugural episode of Simulation Happy Hour. So we probably should introduce ourselves so our listeners know who we are and where we are. Jade, I'm going to hand over to you.
Jane Frost's Nursing and Simulation Background
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Hi everyone. My name's Jane. I've been a nurse um for 30 years. I trained in the UK um and I'm from a primary health background, which differs from most nearly everybody else on the panel today.
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we a panel? Should I call us a panel as we're having this conversation? um ah A gaggle. um So I've been a nurse for 30 years. I've been in higher ed for probably 10 to 15. And for most of that, I've been involved in simulation.
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I find it an amazing way to get that connection with the students. I was really impressed when I saw Kerry Reid-Zill, who's here today. So that's another thing that like to say about simulation is that It allows you to meet people and the simulation community is a fantastic one. So look at us all here talking now.
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Ten years ago, i was a fan girl and Kerry really set me on the simulation journey, which then moved on to not only Masked, but other technology enhanced learning platforms like mixed reality and AI and things like that. So that's me in a nutshell.
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I'll hand over to Jenny.
Jenny Braschett's Career Journey
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Thanks, Jane. I've been a nurse. I'm a hospital trained nurse originally, having started my illustrious career at the Australian Taxation Department and decided that wasn't for me.
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And so then became a theatre nurse and then I joined tertiary education. I still work in correctional nursing and I still work as a primary healthcare nurse as well. So I was introduced to simulation, a conference I went to in Newcastle and the lovely Tracy Levitt-Jones was having a chat on the stage and this little old fellow wandered up there and I thought, gosh, what's going on here? He's got a bit lost.
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And lo and behold, it was Kerry Reid Searle as one of her Masked characters. So that was my introduction to Simi. I've worked with mannequins, worked with Masked, Pup Ed, a little bit of virtual reality. So, yeah, and I worked mostly from a rural perspective.
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I left one tertiary institution, went to Queensland and worked for a tertiary institution up there. I'm really fortunate to have worked... for the NetSim program and Travel Australia, delivering education as part of that program.
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So yeah, really a love simulation and I love the family that it creates. And I'm really lucky and pleased that you girls have invited me to come along to join this group.
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So I'm going to hand over to Kerry.
Kerry Reid-Searle's Unique Simulation Approach
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Thanks, Jen. So I'm Kerry Reid-Sell. I too am a hospital trained nurse way back. Then I ended up doing remote area nursing and then I would take tertiary studies and find myself working in tertiary education, which I still do. But I have also had experience in paediatric nursing and currently I'm emergency nursing as well as remaining in tertiary education.
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My experience with simulation really started when I was working in my first years in undergraduate programs where I wanted to engage students a bit more.
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So I did a lot of role play and we didn't have money for huge amounts of opportunities in simulation. It was, you know, very basic mannequins and because they didn't talk, I started to think, oh, role play is going to take me in a different direction. So I did a lot of dress-ups.
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And then one day i watched... Mrs. Doubtfire. And I thought, there's my answer to simulation. So then I started to work with Silicon Props and got on to Hollywood and started to negotiate with them and came up with that concept of Masked. And it was great that I'm hearing the impact it had on two of my academic friends here. Not just academic friends, but friends in this podcast. So Yeah, so Masked, for people who don't know, is a technique where we wear silicon props.
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We're transferring to another person, but that person has a background or a story that allows them to be a platform for learning and teaching. and I'm sure we'll have a session on that in future sessions with this podcast.
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I then started to work with puppets, and now I continue to work in tertiary education. My role now is more looking at a cross-curriculum and looking at different ways in simulation.
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I guess I just love experiential learning, and as a learner myself who cross-curriculars, and a great deal from watching and playing.
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I feel that that's why simulation to me such is a great opportunity for students to really get things that they would have otherwise not. So it's such a privilege. And I have to say, it's such a privilege to be working with these three crazy guys but who all come from different backgrounds, who who all have different ideas, and it's going to be a privilege. I look forward to what this podcast can open up for us all and for our hopeful regular listeners.
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So that's me in a nutshell, Mel. Thanks, Kerry.
Mel Barlow's Path to Simulation
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So to introduce myself, Mel Barlow, I guess like a lot of people I know who got into simulation through trial and error and being tapped on the shoulder, just over 20 years ago i got into clinical education to run hospital-wide resuscitation training, had no education training, no simulation training, just learnt by trial and error and feedback and
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And then 2011, was fortunate enough to be in an opportunity to help build and then manage a simulation center in a different organization.
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but thought, oh, if I'm going to be responsible for this, I should actually get some training and qualifications. So fortunately at the time, Center for Medical Simulation was in Australia. I went to Sim is a Teaching Tool.
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had a number of aha moments and just have been dedicated to sim ever since. So now I'm the last four years in higher education, loving it. And my role is to help.
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basically academics across all different disciplines embed experiential learning into curriculum. So super enjoy that role. um And just, yeah, I get to work with these guys. I've been wanting to work with them for number years now. And so this was a great excuse to have some fun and have a chat.
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And hopefully when these guys get going, I know they like a chat. It's nice.
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So what I'm really keen to understand then is apart from having a good chat and a good excuse to catch up, like why are we doing this podcast? Why are we creating another podcast?
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So I'd love to get your
Challenges in Rural Simulation Education
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perspective. So Jenny, jump on in.
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Thanks, Mel. I think I probably come from a rural perspective. When I first started doing simulation in the middle of Victoria, there was only one other person in my area doing it and they were from another institution and there was no crossover around...
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so you know, there was some sharing of ideas, but, you know, apart from reading books and going to a conference, where was I going to learn about simulation? And so, you know, after 15 years of being in rural simulation, the turnover of staff and it's Groundhog Day quite often.
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So we've got to start with, you know, so new stuff. So I think the podcast is just a way of talking about things that work in simulation, things that don't work in simulation, and We can get bogged down in the pedagogy and all the underpinning theories of simulation.
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And I think they're important to know in bits and pieces and understand how to apply them and why they're there. But I think sometimes it's also the practical tips of what we do, how we do it. You know, if you're doing moulage, you're trying to make blood, what's the best way make blood?
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So I'm really looking forward to tapping lots of other people that I know in simulation on the shoulder and say, hey, come and have a chat on the podcast and tell us what you know about simulation. So I think it's just a relaxed way to share what we know about simulation in a really open forum.
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I was just going to say, really are a rural education provider because you're sitting in your car on the side of a highway. With trucks zooming past.
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Yeah, sorry about that background noise, but yeah, that's where I am this morning. So, yes. Excellent. Well, what about... Well, my background noise today is there's some birds chipping at my window and I find them very interesting that they visit me every morning.
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ah So hear any banging, that's the regular little birds on the veranda. What do I see
Podcast Goals and Aspirations
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as this podcast? To me, this is a great opportunity to share wisdom but also to gain information from others. So I'm excited about this.
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the opportunities of listening to other people and the opportunities of what we can give to others. I guess in 25 years of working in simulation, one of my challenges has been, well, how do I know this or what do I need to read to find this out? And a lot of it's just come from trial and error. So I think tacit knowledge that we just assume is everybody knows, they don't necessarily know. And I think this is a great opportunity to share that.
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I also ah see this as a really great opportunity for newcomers into simulation to gain some insight from oldies that have been hanging around for a while. or Not all of us are old, not as old, none of you are as old me.
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So to me, it's a great opportunity to share and gain. And I really look forward to this journey. And it's just great to catch up with people who are, you know, they're your tribe. They're the ones that are into sim and as geeky as we may appear or seem, we think it's a very cool experiential learning opportunity and let's share.
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So that's that's what I think.
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Great. I just see you, Jane. Yeah. just trying to find the unmute button there. Bring in the conversation. Yeah, I'm really excited about talking about SIM.
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We're all very passionate about it. It's great that we'll be able to share some stuff but learn from other people that are โ
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we're going to talk to you you I'd like to make simulation more accessible. So I think this is a way to be able to help people um and um know that we are approachable because sometimes it seems like everybody else is doing the research and that you can't reach out, but we'd like you to get to know us.
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and know that you can reach out and talk to us about this. And, you know, we have a website so you can ask us some questions. You can get in touch. I think one thing that I found is that a lot of people think that simulation is just about mannequins and it's not just about mannequins. There's a the whole different...
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ecosystem around simulation that's about mask ed. It's about immersive rooms. It's about VR. ah It's about all other things. We all tend to have these simulated wards and think, well, that's where sim happens, but it doesn't.
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It can happen anywhere and we need to make it real and authentic. But ah really, I just um I'm going to enjoy talking to this great bunch of people who share my passion for sim and hopefully it rubs off on our listeners.
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River, back to you Mel, tell us why you wanted to do it.
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Thanks, Jane. Yeah, I actually really agree with you. Part of my role is, as I said, supporting academics across a whole faculty. And one of the most common conversations I've had is that role play is simulation.
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And people don't view those kind of classroom experiential learning things. activities as simulation. And so i think it's a super important conversation to have and how we can support it.
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Yeah, again, having a chat with people I respect and ah really enjoy catching up with, so selfishly, a great way to distribute and share information.
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And so that's my goal is to like, how can we collectively learn? And I think I think medicine, our medical colleagues do this really well, this social learning of using podcasts and blogs and platforms to, as a medical community share. And i I think from, I'm talking from the Australian context, we don't do that, I think, as well in nursing. And although this podcast isn't just for nurses and it's not about nursing, I think as for nurses, we can really role model, hopefully to our nursing colleagues about nursing
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sharing learning and collaborative learning and social learning. And so, and have a bit of fun in the process. So that's, that's my goal. So what I want listeners to get out of it is really, well, like in our catchphrase, like sit back, relax and enjoy the conversation.
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And I think we lost Jenny. So I hope she's okay on the side of the road.
Podcast Formats and Resources
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So any last comments as we kind of talk about ah bit of the how we're going to structure this thing because we're going to have two different types of formats of sessions and we could talk about how people can engage with us. So, Kerry, do you want to describe what the quick shots are? I guess it's really just information that we get from people Our peers that have got opportunities to be giving us some great information to share.
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We don't want this to be sort of long, drawn out conversations. that can be some people, you know, that lose that engagement with. So this is this is really quick shots of information that you can take and run with.
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A little bit of a like a quick shot cocktail, have a quick drink. Hey, that's a really good feel I got from that. And that's what we're going to get from these quick shots.
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Brilliant. Thanks, Carrie. And then the other format we've got is called the VIP lounge. And so that's where bring in other people and we might have a more in-depth conversation about a particular topic.
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So we hope, you know, that having those different formats, you can find a format that our listeners, you know, can resonate with. So Jane, you mentioned the website before. What is it? Want to tell us the address?
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Oh, you've put me on the spot there, haven't you? So it is www.simulationhappyhour.com. Yes. Now you're laughing because you didn't think I was going to know that, did you? ah and But that's the address.
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We've got some great things on there you can read about us, but also we've created some recipes. So check out our recipes. and keep in touch we have a ah platform there that you can ask us some questions or suggest some people that you'd like us to talk to brilliant thank you and these uh podcasts will be available where you normally listen to your podcasts on spotify or apple podcasts or our youtube channel as well girls did you know we had a youtube channel
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Simulation happy hour. so look how cool and jiggy with it we really are. I know, Mal. And I just showed my age by saying jiggy with it.
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All right. My children are cringing as we speak.
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So, yeah, it's just I guess we say thank you for for listening. And as Jane said, if you have a topic you want us to discuss, so simulationhappyhour.com is all one word.
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And we look forward to having you to join us for our next Simulation Happy Hour.
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