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Episode 105: The Lord's Work
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This week the boys are talking empty arena Smackdown, Raw and AEW!
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Introduction and Pandemic Changes
00:00:33
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to Predetermined, a show for anyone who's ever been asked. You watch wrestling? You know that's fake, right? Fuck those people. This show's for you. We love you. I'm your host, Garrett Callender. I'm your other host, your quarantined host, Derek Halpin. I'm not really quarantined. Kind of feel like I am. How about you? I am... Well, you know, last time we talked, Leah was in London.
00:01:00
Speaker
it feels like it's been a long time since we recorded together because it's been extra long yeah we recorded what like last monday or a week ago monday yeah so i can't i can barely even remember what's gone on since uh the last time we talked because yeah the world fell apart derek the world is very different from the last time you heard
Impact of the Pandemic on Daily Life
00:01:22
Speaker
us
00:01:22
Speaker
Yeah, and I think it's important for us to be here because we're all, you know, a lot of us are stuck at home and have nothing going on. A lot of people are hunkered down across this world as we fight the coronavirus pandemic and your primary way of combating this disease seems to be to crack open another white claw. Hey, there's no scientific evidence that it doesn't help.
00:01:48
Speaker
I don't think that's how science works. That would put in a lot of different addictions as an option to help combat the disease.
00:02:03
Speaker
Anyways, yeah, it's, it's almost hard to put into words. Like we've dealt with some heavy stuff on this show before, but most of it's been heavy tied into wrestling. This is just, it's what everyone's talking about. It's what everyone's thinking about. Everyone's going through it to some degree or another. And, uh, you and I really haven't had a chance to kind of share our stories because
00:02:27
Speaker
but I had text you last Wednesday. I was in the middle of watching AEW dynamite last week and I knew that the president was going to be given a whatever.
00:02:43
Speaker
He was going to Skype from the Oval Office with the citizens of this nation. The President was sending a Zoom. He was sending a TikTok to the nation. Yep. Just to let us know what's going on. And it just felt like right towards the end of, you know, between like 8 p.m. and 9 p.m., it just felt like
00:03:04
Speaker
a bombshell after bombshell was being dropped. Now, I know that as far as the coronavirus thing, what is it?
Realizations and Emotional Impacts
00:03:12
Speaker
COVID-19 or is it COVID-19? Like, what are they calling it? Whichever one sounds scariest is definitely the one they're saying. I don't watch the news. I just get get it in writing. So I don't know what. For the sake of the show, we'll just call it the Corona or the coronavirus, the Roan.
00:03:33
Speaker
Got a hot case of the Roan. Not to make light of this situation, but some of us are going to need to laugh. So we're going to have to, as a coping mechanism, joke about what's going on because a lot of us are going crazy. Oh, I've been stuck inside since the last episode.
00:03:55
Speaker
Because Leah was away, she got back, I had to go into quarantine, and I'll be honest, I'm stir crazy right now. I've got so much energy that I'm ready to give to you. But you have extra circumstances on top of everything else. So I'll be anxious to hear your side of this story. But like you said, we were recorded last week on a Monday, and then Wednesday night comes around, I'm sitting there watching Dynamite, the president's doing his TikTok thing.
00:04:22
Speaker
within a matter of minutes, it went from like, Hey, are you enjoying wrestling here? Take a break to go watch this, uh, public service announcement from, uh, the prez. And, uh, next thing you know, it's, Oh wait, the Corona virus is a real serious issue. Tom Hanks has it. The NBA season's canceled. NHL season's probably gonna get canceled tomorrow and baseball's on hold and wrestling will be doing empty arena
Coping with Quarantine and Hobbies
00:04:49
Speaker
shows. And this all happens.
00:04:52
Speaker
in a relatively short amount of time. And I think I text you, are you disconnected from the news right now? And I can't remember what you said. You were just like, you mean as far as like what, the coronavirus? And I was just like, yeah. I'll be honest, I was trying to not be worried about my wife being stuck in London.
00:05:17
Speaker
But when I text you, because like I said, this was just last Wednesday, did you know about any of this stuff? I knew about some of it, but I think I didn't know about baseball and everything yet. So when you text me that, I didn't realize you were saying, Garrett, my hobbies have been taken from me. They've been stripped from me. Your hobbies were taken too. That's why I was texting you.
00:05:37
Speaker
Yeah, they have, you know what? I didn't really look at it that way. I feel like I'm just stuck at home with nothing to do, but really, yeah, those hobbies are, I mean, thank God for pro wrestling with such a large back catalog of shit I haven't seen.
00:05:53
Speaker
that's I mean if you yeah but you you are operating in a different set of circumstances than I am because yeah I'm worried about baseball season being delayed I was excited to be a season ticket holder and stuff but uh we we both lost hockey
00:06:09
Speaker
My roommate Chris lost basketball. And it's just, this is so weird and so scary. And mainly the emotion I've been feeling for the last week plus now. Has this been anger? I've just been angry. Been really cranky and depressed is the best way to put it.
00:06:32
Speaker
And I know you had extra stress that you were dealing with because your wife wasn't even in the fucking country when all this stuff was happening. Yeah, it was really hard for me to keep my brain occupied when I was still kind of deciding to put myself in quarantine other than I think the last time I had actually gone outside was the day after we released the podcast, I went to go see Birds of Prey again and then realized this is pretty scary and then decided to stay inside since.
00:07:03
Speaker
What was so what happened that suddenly made it click for you? Somebody in the theater coughed and I thought I was gonna have it well I thought I was gonna have the theater to myself I thought like this is gonna be an ideal viewing situation for me and One person coughed and like you know what not worth it not worth how far away were they? Oh, they were more than six feet away, but I didn't know that yet I didn't know that I had to sit
00:07:30
Speaker
you were preparing for a scenario where you needed to be 500 feet away from everybody. Yeah, I'm like, I was prepared for a thing where I have a very set amount of bullets and a gun and I'm like hunkered down in my basement waiting for the zombie apocalypse. So you're already and I don't know if everybody at home has gone through our back catalog, you're already a little bit of a germaphobe. Oh, yeah.
00:07:55
Speaker
like I'll tell you this story Garrett once came to my college town and because I was sick he refused to see me that sounds about right yep that that is a thing that happened one time what were your feelings what were you sick and I don't even remember I had like some kind of flu I'm sure okay then that's why I okay so here's why I'm a germ don't sit here and act like if it was a like something else you would have been fine with it Derek
00:08:21
Speaker
When I was a kid, I had appendicitis, as did you. Yeah, so did I. But I was throwing up so hard, I tore my esophagus. So every time I vomit now, it causes blood to come out. And it sucks. And that was the start of me being a germaphobe. Well, stop throwing
Animal Crossing and Quarantine Stories
00:08:42
Speaker
up. Well, I don't throw up. Yeah, I avoid you, motherfucker, when you're sick and I don't. One time.
00:08:49
Speaker
One time. I let it go, Garrett. It was fine. Hey, Derek, what's the game Animal Crossing about?
00:08:57
Speaker
Okay. So I've only played animal crossing at one point in my life. And that point was maybe 18 years ago. And that was for the Nintendo game cube. And you basically create a little humanoid type character that has like a bandana and horns. And you move into this town that you get the name and then all the citizens of the town are humanoid animal hybrids.
00:09:25
Speaker
You know what I'm talking about? Like the sexy kind like in cats? No. No, like cutesy. Like they've got big heads and small bodies. Ah, the sexy kind. Whatever. Like a fucking mascot with an oversized head. Anyways, yeah, so that's supposed to come out tomorrow.
00:09:44
Speaker
I want to give a shout out to my friend Nick, who works at the exchange in Wicker Park. And he hooked me up with a copy of MLB the show today. And we were talking about this because the new Animal Crossing is supposed to come out tomorrow. However, apparently that business is being shut down after today. Like they're going into quarantine.
00:10:05
Speaker
And so they're trying to reach out to people about it. But there's going to be a lot of sad people when they realize they can't walk in and get Animal Crossing. Animal Crossing is a fun game. You fish. You buy things from Tom Nook. And I just carried on for a long time. It was a game I got into quite a bit 20 years ago. The only thing I remember is going over to our friend Kyle's house, seeing Derek alone on a chair, playing Animal Crossing, chopping down trees.
00:10:35
Speaker
Yep, and then I remember our friend getting on later and it turned out Derek had logged into his account Chopped down all the trees in his yard saved it So to be to to be clear on one system on the GameCube if you had two memory cards you could create two towns and then you could travel between those towns using the train and What had happened was our friend Nathan in Animal Crossing and?
00:11:00
Speaker
He had created his own town because we wouldn't let him have one of the four houses in ours and he wanted to play and he was going to make us sound like such dicks.
00:11:12
Speaker
So he goes and creates his own town on the other memory card. And what happens is, is because the game was pretty interactive for its time, everyone in our town started talking about how excited they were about this other new town. And they started moving over to Nathan's town. Like all of our citizens were excited and packing and leaving. And we got really mad. So what we did is we got special uniforms. Mine was a black shirt with a stick of dynamite on it. And I bought like 15
00:11:42
Speaker
axes and because the axes would break after a few uses so you had to have a bunch and we got on the train and we traveled through the memory card to Nathan's town and we chopped down all of the trees in his town while he wasn't there so that the next time when he booted up and logged into his town to play with his character there were no trees left but we the thing is when you chop down a tree you can leave the stump
00:12:09
Speaker
We left the stump instead of digging it out. So is this a game that if I get this tonight and play it on the switch that I can be the heel of Animal Crossing and go just like knock everybody's shit over?
00:12:25
Speaker
Now, again, this game is really, really popular and it went on a whole thing where it was on like different Game Boy platforms, the Wii. It's a really popular game, Garrett. It's also really, really addictive for how simple it is.
00:12:40
Speaker
Yeah, you can pretty much do what you want. Well, if you guys think I should get Animal Crossing, let me know and then we'll play together and I'll come to your town and chop your trees down. Garrett, if I had a switch, I would totally have Animal Crossing. So you should get it. Okay. You're under quarantine essentially, so you need stuff to do. I need to be able to travel around and chop down trees like I want to be doing in real life. Think if you went and got 15 axes and then got on the train.
00:13:10
Speaker
I am excited about it. No, in real life. I'm excited about it. If I had a suitcase full of axes. Did you ever finish the Ghostbusters game that you downloaded on your Switch? No, I'm still, I'm kind of jumping back and forth between games, but that's one I'm still playing and very much enjoying.
00:13:30
Speaker
Okay, good. Get back to the story because we have to get this back eventually to wrestling. But this can be an oddball episode because people need entertainment during these dark times. Yeah, like eventually I should bring up how, you know, cats, it turns out they were going to have buttholes at one point. And there is a digital, there is a version out there somewhere where these cats have buttholes, Derek.
00:13:51
Speaker
We will definitely talk about this because I know that you're excited to get that off your chest. Or your butthole, depending upon how you look at it. So your wife is overseas and things kind of blow up here in America. It's a big fucking deal. Everything's shutting down. Everyone's freaking out. Take me from there like what your experience is from like Wednesday night hearing a text from me and when your wife finally gets back
Travel and Work Stress During Pandemic
00:14:17
Speaker
to Nashville. Well, she was over there on a work trip.
00:14:21
Speaker
and honestly I wasn't that worried when she left like we knew it was kind of a big deal but it seemed like basically she landed and then shit hit the fan and we were gonna try and get her a plane ticket back but it was gonna be like $1600 or something
00:14:40
Speaker
to get her back, and that was just to get her back into New York, not get her back to here. So yeah, I basically spent a full week just watching pro wrestling and trying to ignore the fact that my wife was overseas and there was nothing I could do about it. Were you stressing? Oh, I was stressing, baby. It's funny to me because New York's kind of a shit show right now with their lockdown. Well, I didn't want her to be there either.
00:15:12
Speaker
Hence why you didn't pay the $1,600 to get her there. Hey, I was like, we can get you home now. We can do this. It sucks, but we can get you home right now. And she chose to stay. I guess she kind of waited it out and came back on her own flight. And I think there were like 15 people on an international flight.
00:15:34
Speaker
so she had her own row. But yeah, no, she hasn't been sick or anything, but we have been in quarantine since she's been back, just to make sure, just in case. Just in case. So you might have it. Yeah, I mean, I could have it. Theoretically. In theory. Does that scare you? I am not really that scared for me. I'm more worried about others, so I'm, you know, doing that thing and staying the fuck home. Good for you.
00:16:02
Speaker
You, on the other hand, work at a goddamn hospital. I do work at a hospital here in Chicago, I won't say which one, but I do have to march head first into battle five days a week. And that's intense. Every day is pretty intense. I'm not a nurse or a doctor, but you're doing the Lord's work.
00:16:24
Speaker
I am doing the Lord's work in many ways and it's crazy because a lot of times things that you take for granted like all the other months and all the other days things that people would ask for are suddenly in high demand these days and let's just say a hand sanitizer comes at a premium.
00:16:50
Speaker
I feel like I am a very lucky person and I shouldn't take for granted the fact that I have a bidet. Yeah, that's the thing a lot of people don't have. And honestly, the toilet paper thing, which has become its own fucking meme category at this point. Out of all the things people could be like stocking up on, that one's so weird to me.
00:17:16
Speaker
Because I don't feel like I go through a ton of toilet paper. So I'll tell you this story. Because this is funny. With everything that's going on, this might put a smile on somebody's face. So maybe three weeks ago, my roommate Christopher says to me, I had like an Amazon gift card or something that I had to use or rewards or whatever. And I had to get something with it. So I threw some toilet paper on there.
00:17:45
Speaker
And it should be arriving in the mail sometime, but I don't know when.
00:17:51
Speaker
Fast forward two and a half weeks late with like the fucking Corona thing hits and it's now like it's like Friday or Saturday and Everyone's buying up all the toilet paper. You see people going ape shit and crazy I come home from work because I worked this past weekend and sitting on our front like right where our door is there is a giant box of toilet paper and
00:18:18
Speaker
just ripe for the taking. And I'm not talking Scott's. I'm not talking Angelsoft. This is fucking Cottonelle, baby. It's the good stuff. It's the really, really fucking good stuff. And it's just sitting there with our fucking, you know, address on it. It's for us.
00:18:35
Speaker
We got it hand delivered to us. And I said to my roommate, I was like, imagine if during the gold rush, the mailman just delivered a giant stack of gold bars and just left them on your fucking doorstep and then walked away and you got to come home and be like, I don't know why everyone's making a big deal.
00:18:52
Speaker
Oh, we are stocked up on toilet paper by pure coincidence, and it feels fantastic. You're lucky that wasn't stolen. That's what we were saying. It's just fucking hilarious. Like, that was out there for anyone to take, and I just got to kind of walk up and bring it inside. Like, honestly, during that time, that would have seemed like a prank to walk by and see a crate of toilet paper on a front step. That's exactly what I said. I was like, anybody walking by was thinking, nah, no way.
00:19:21
Speaker
There's a trap. There's a boxing glove that's gonna punch me in the face when I open that box. There's a fucking wild hyena underneath that box, and when I pick that thing up, I'm dead.
00:19:34
Speaker
No, I just that's that's fun. That's a funny story. So how have you been doing? Well, because because you've been in inside for so long now.
Wrestling During the Pandemic
00:19:47
Speaker
Okay, so I think you and I have a couple different views on this where I was like so bored and bummed out.
00:19:54
Speaker
that WWE I was like fuck yeah man they're still doing it this is good stuff and uh you it seemed like it fucking put you in a very bad mood what they did I just I think
00:20:11
Speaker
It went from like Wednesday night should hit the fan. And then two days later, Friday night, they had to kind of roll with the punches. And there, there was like a, like a 12 to 16 hour window where there were rumors about how they were going to do smack down. Like if they, if the show was still on, are they going to do the show in the arena, but have the arena empty? Are they going to be at the performance center? Like what's going to go on?
00:20:35
Speaker
And so when they made the decision to do the Performance Center, I tuned in because I was kind of excited to see how it would work or if it would work. And so I'm I'm proud to tell you that despite everything that's been going on, I watched both SmackDown, Raw and AEW in the last week. I have as well, believe it or not. This is a rare week. Um.
00:21:02
Speaker
I don't know how you're interpreting how I viewed all that. Like I was getting in a chance. Yeah, it was the worst thing ever.
00:21:11
Speaker
Well, I think at the point that you and I had talked where you seemed pretty upset with how they had gone about things and I had only seen Raw at that point. I hadn't gone back and watched SmackDown. You do think after because we're going to jump forward eventually and get to AEW, which was
00:21:33
Speaker
phenomenal yes well we'll get to that like top-notch and you can say that they learned from their mistakes but you could also think that between Friday and Monday they could have figured something else out to do so okay so that that that helped paint the picture for you going back and watching smackdown
00:21:52
Speaker
Yes, I did go back and watch it later. And honestly, like, SmackDown was kind of fun. Like, Triple H was being goofy. He was busting Michael Cole's balls. Right. And I was kind of having a good time. Like, I thought Asuka is top notch right now.
00:22:08
Speaker
doing the dancing, I love the dancing. I thought that the match they had was fine. It was weird not having the crowd, but it was one of those things where it's like, you know what? I appreciate that this is happening at all, because everything else is gone.
00:22:23
Speaker
I and Smackdown did like one of its best numbers since it switched to Fox. Really? And yeah. And but and the whole reason I watched and the whole reason I had enthusiasm for watching is and I don't know if others will agree with this. It's weird.
00:22:41
Speaker
I knew regardless of how I felt about it after, I knew that it was gonna be an oddity, that it was gonna be different. And so often when you tune into a Raw or a SmackDown, you know the pacing of the show, you know how things are gonna play out, you know there's gonna be a segment to open the show, you know there's gonna be a big thing at the end, you know there's gonna be a bunch of filler in the middle, but I knew that
00:23:06
Speaker
whatever they tried to do, that it was just going to be weird. And I just kept looking and just being like, wow, this is so bizarre. This is like, because I think the smackdown opened up with like a tag match with Sasha Banks and Bailey against Nikki cross and Alexa bliss. And
00:23:28
Speaker
I thought it was hilarious that Sasha Banks and Bayley came out heckling Michael Cole and Triple H directly because they were the only other people in the room.
00:23:42
Speaker
Like, I mean, I would say that's the right thing to do since that was the circumstance, but it was also that we were like a couple minutes in, I'm like, oh my God, like, are they gonna have to do this the whole show where the only interaction between the wrestlers is at the announce team?
00:24:01
Speaker
And then when you realize how weird tag matches are when there's no fucking fans in the stands because the person on the apron waiting for the tag is like stomping and clapping their hands to rally on their partner. But since the fans aren't joining in because they're not there, it just feels really like overly enthusiastic. Well, I think at one point Triple H even said Nikki Cross trying to rally the crowd.
00:24:34
Speaker
I mean, like I said, I watched both and I watched them in order. And so I kind of knew what I was getting into when I watched on Monday. I think they kind of cheated out of it, but I get it. Like they had to kill time because Friday's show and all that situation at the performance center was on such short notice.
00:24:55
Speaker
So they had to kill time by playing that elimination chamber tag team match. And then Monday on Raw, they had to play the- Which I had not seen. So that was new for me. See, you're such a fuck ass because like-
00:25:08
Speaker
You don't watch and then you show up when they're cheating or doing some stupid shit that for you is like, oh, this is the first time I've seen this. This is kind of cool. I'm like, yeah, for everybody else, this is the 70th time they've done this angle or been building this this way and you make it. And then the other thing I kept sitting there thinking while I was watching these shows was Garrett probably doesn't even notice.
00:25:34
Speaker
because this is a running thing on this show that Garret will just not know that the crowd is there or not. You don't acknowledge them.
00:25:46
Speaker
So yeah, you understand what I'm saying now. You said that to me at elimination chamber. Yeah, that's true. So, no, I'll tell you, I did notice that they were missing, but for that Miz match, I got Miz in a tag match where he won an elimination chamber, so I loved that. Otis and Jizz got some great spots, and Otis, aka Tucker, he had a high spot in that match. Yeah. He's earned his keep.
00:26:14
Speaker
He's part of the package? He gets to be part of the package now. He gets to be, he really is Otis now. You've been upgraded from Tucker to Otis. I mean, put it this way, like we've been saying Otis and Jizz, but, and Jizz is all caps. Yes. Otis was lowercase. Now it can be Otis and Jizz, cause Otis does the high spots, Jizz does the worm and smashes through walls.
00:26:44
Speaker
so you were happy with what you got yeah i was bored as hell so it you know helped fill in some day for me you're such an ass you've been sitting at home for so long now that this by comparison is is here's the thing i'm not saying it's the worst thing in the world but they had a couple of days between smackdown and raw to
00:27:09
Speaker
maybe try something different. And they just really didn't. In fact, to the point where Raw's three hours, they decided to kill an hour and a half of the fucking show by replaying the entire men's Royal Rumble match. That was cheap. With commercial breaks. And then what did I think on Raw, we only got one match. We got like a four minute match between Andrade and Mysterio. Right. Yeah.
00:27:34
Speaker
A lot of segments. It was a lot of segments. And honestly, WWE, when it's just one person in the ring cutting a promo, it did kind of learn that that's pretty hard without a crowd. I will say that the Edge promo on Raw kicked fucking ass. I'm trying to remember what he...
00:27:57
Speaker
I'm guessing- You didn't watch the Edge promo, did you? I did watch the Edge promo, I watched all of Raw. I'm guessing he came out and was like, Randy Orton, if you don't have the coronavirus in two weeks, I'm gonna kick your ass. He challenged Orton to a Last Man Standing match. Okay, I remember that.
00:28:19
Speaker
But Edge's promo was really fucking good. Let's address the big WWE elephant in the room, WrestleMania.
00:28:32
Speaker
how fucking wild like, I mean, it was, it was like, it was the big story and the days immediately after like the, all the Corona shit kind of hit the fan. Um, were they going to be able to do mania or not? There was a standoff between WWE and Tampa Bay and
00:28:50
Speaker
Some people were speculating that had to do with insurance. And if WWE cancels the event, they don't get to collect insurance. If the city cancels it, they get to collect the insurance on the event. And how long was the holdout going to be? When were they going to announce that the show was either canceled or postponed or whatever they were going to do? And I don't know. I don't really know who ended up making the decision. I think it was WWE. But yeah, it it fucked up a lot down there.
00:29:21
Speaker
I mean, can we talk about what a difficult decision that was? I guess there were people screaming online, just postponement, just postponement. And I was of the mind, like, you can't just, you can't just extend these storylines that they've been building for six months all the way now into July or August.
00:29:42
Speaker
I guess like I don't know how you logistically do that. No, it did. That didn't make sense to me either, especially because, you know, they don't want to lose being able to say the longest running weekly television show in history or whatever. Well, for Raw, yeah. But I mean.
00:30:00
Speaker
I'm just saying storyline wise. Oh, I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like you can't just pause raw. They can't just show like a rerun one week. And just be like, we're going to wait six weeks and try it again. And we'll pick it up. Yeah, it was a really tough decision to make. Wrestling is a different beast. It's not fucking stranger things where you sit down and you binge watch the entire story arc from start to finish. Like you have to wait.
00:30:27
Speaker
And they have had so much in place for such a long time. There were people saying postpone it. And yeah, you can postpone the event that's called WrestleMania. But in the meantime, you still have to have the payoff for all these matches. And I feel bad for some of these people on the roster who this was supposed to be their big crowning moment. I feel terrible for Drew McIntyre.
00:30:53
Speaker
I agree with that completely. I feel so bad for Drew McIntyre, but I'm also so excited to see Brock Lesnar wrestle in the Performance Center. I feel bad for Edge. Think about that. He fought back.
00:31:15
Speaker
from a career-ending injury, possibly had some stem cell procedure done on him to get back in the shape, best shape of his life.
00:31:26
Speaker
And in his mind, he's thinking, oh my God, that roar, that fucking crowd, when I come out for my first match back at WrestleMania. And now Edge's first match back is gonna be in an empty arena in Orlando. Do you think WWE, I mean, we have to skip ahead for a second to cover this, but so AEW did their show not in front of an empty arena, but in front of like 15 wrestlers.
00:31:51
Speaker
Who made a lot of noise? Hootenholered? Cheered shit? Yelled? Really? And I want to go into detail about how awesome that was. Yeah, we'll get to that when we move on, when we get over to AEW. They did an awesome job. It made the show. Do you think after AEW, or after WWE sees that, that they will, they'll do the same and throw like, you know, Zack Ryder and Curt Hawkins in the front row? I don't know. I don't know why they didn't do it in the first place.
00:32:21
Speaker
Like I know that, do you know who Ryan Satin is? Yeah, for, okay. So he was criticizing AEW because he felt like Tony Khan put all of those people who were sitting ringside in danger by having them in the vicinity of one another. Number one, the talent was in the building.
00:32:45
Speaker
Again, I'm all for being as safe as possible. I think it's stupid what some people are doing and completely ignoring the situation with the virus. I don't know what else you do. You've got a weekly episodic show you've got to fulfill. The talent's already there and in the building to perform. They're going to be sweating with each other.
00:33:05
Speaker
and rubbing bodies against each other in a ring. If they're there, I mean, the other thing is, it wasn't like they were right on top of each other. A lot of those guys were three to six feet apart. And Khan gave everybody the option to not be there.
00:33:22
Speaker
Yeah. But I think what people were alarmed about was like old people like Jake being there at ringside for that stuff. OK. I was concerned for Jake and Tully Blanchard. Well, they chose to be there. But do you think they made Tully Blanchard be there?
00:33:40
Speaker
No. Everybody has an option except Tully. You get your ass out there and show everyone how not scary this virus is. Your daughter's in deep shit right now, so you need to go. Good Lord. Going back to WWE, do I think that they decided to do that? Like I said, I was wondering that while I was watching. I was like, I know the talents there.
00:34:01
Speaker
Like here's the thing, if you and I work together, even if the business shuts down and we're just required to be there but we're not open to customers, you and I are gonna sit there and heckle each other. Like if there's not an audience there, we're still gonna be the audience. So like AEW handled it the right way in my opinion. I don't know what the fuck WWE was doing with like just make it as clean as possible and make sure you get as Kevin Dunn's in the fucking truck saying make sure you get as many shots of those empty seats as you possibly can.
00:34:31
Speaker
They definitely made a point to show you how empty it was where AEW did the opposite and just lit the ring in the front row to where you couldn't really tell that they were in a big empty place. How did you feel on Raw about the Stone Cold segment with Byron Saxton? Why are you afraid? Why are you afraid to talk about it? No, I'm not afraid to talk about it. I just didn't Stone Cold. Did I read that he got hurt in that segment?
00:35:00
Speaker
I didn't hear anything about that. I mean, good on it. Like once again, when I was watching Raw, my main thought was I'm bored as shit and these guys are entertaining me or doing their best to under the circumstances. Right. And I said the same thing. And that being said, like if that were the segment on a regular night, I probably would have been like, that kind of sucked. But for given that, you know, they just brought him out to kick Byron Saxton like square in the penis.
00:35:33
Speaker
Yeah, but here's my criticism of that. I thought the segment sucked and I saw that some people online thought it was a riot. You're telling me for weeks, I'm talking fucking weeks. They've been promoting stone cold Steve Austin to appear on raw. And the best they could come up with was we'll have him do a bit with Byron Saxton. And like you say, they were bragging about how clean that ring was and he made a goddamn mess in there.
00:36:04
Speaker
Yeah, no, I think they could've- Well, that's what they utilized Stone Cold for? Out of anything? Since they had so much time, I kinda thought they were gonna do something else with him, but- They easily could've done a thing with him and Owens. Stunning a bunch of people. They had the fucking street profits come out and get stunnered by Austin after Raw went off the air. That would've been more interesting on the air than Byron Saxton, in my opinion.
00:36:31
Speaker
it would have been a bad stand-up set about 316 day like fucking Austin gives a shit it didn't look like he was into doing that bit either now I'm remembering with the cue cards where yes where he dropped them he's like I drop like three of them pick some somebody picked those up for me and he's just basically doing like you might be a redneck if jokes correct yeah no that sucked
00:36:53
Speaker
I guess I was thinking more about him and it you could see on his face like it didn't look like Stone Cold was selling the jokes very well it didn't you could tell that he knew they weren't landing yeah it was this it was a shitty bit it was a shitty segment and then Becky Lynch came out and made it a little less shitty and then the show was over that being said ah well no they had time they had no they had time
00:37:21
Speaker
They had time. So mania is now a two day event at the performance center being hosted by Rob Gronkowski, who has signed with WWE the Gronk. What the fuck is going on? You got the room. I know I'm coughing and my throat feels really dry.
00:37:43
Speaker
And now I think I have it. Seltzers will do that, too. Seltzers will dry it out? Yes. Well, I'm out of this one, and I kind of want a second, but... Well, do you want to go get another one? What were we talking about so that I know when I come back? WrestleMania? Okay, WrestleMania's two days. Let me go grab a seltzer.
00:38:01
Speaker
Well, you go grab a cell turn and I'll keep talking because I'm, this is going to be such an interesting fucking show. I like every year for mania, like a lot of people and make sure to take the day after WrestleMania off because I don't care if the show is 15 hours long, which sucks and is stupid. I'm going to sit there and probably watch the whole show.
00:38:26
Speaker
So I had the day off after Mania off from work, and I pulled that back when all the Corona shit hit because I figured, okay, the show's either gonna get canceled or it's gonna get postponed. Either way, it's not gonna be WrestleMania, so I really don't care. But- I do really appreciate that you take the day after WrestleMania off.
00:38:50
Speaker
If I'm gonna be up, if I'm gonna be sitting in one place for nine fucking hours watching one show and snacking and probably up until at least 11 or 12, I'm not going into work the next day.
00:39:03
Speaker
I respect it. I pulled my, I pulled my PTO request back because I figured, dude, you know, this ain't going to be the same. And like we were saying, I feel bad for a lot of the people. This was supposed to be a big moment for some of these people. Well, think like Rhea Ripley getting to have a WrestleMania moment while in NXT. I was kind of excited for that.
00:39:23
Speaker
And it's, it's, and again, it just feels so weird. All of this feels so surreal and some of it's odd and some of it's sad and depressing and some of it can make you angry. It is what it is, but now it's going to be a two day event and an empty arena. And we will see what that's like. I guess I'm wondering, they're moving the hall of fame to summer slam weekend is the plan. And I'm hearing that WrestleMania is actually going to be in several locations.
00:39:54
Speaker
What do you mean? That they're not gonna have all the talent in one building, that they're gonna be spread out between a few different buildings and be hopping back and forth, like with the broadcast. Which I think they said was to keep in like coordinates with, you know, not having too many people in one space and everything. But I'm wondering if a bigger part of it has to do with, I bet they still try and make this look like WrestleMania.
00:40:22
Speaker
Not like, you know, the stadium, but try and have a stage show, try and have more interesting entrances. Do you think that maybe splitting it over two days will let them have more space to be able to set that shit up in time? How would you feel if they propped up like cardboard cutouts of the audience, the way they used to appear in like the SmackDown games on PlayStation? Just like a two-dimensional person in every seat.
00:40:52
Speaker
I'm trying to decide if I would be cool with that. Like I would miss like, you know, sometimes if they had some of them had their arms in the air. You need that guy. Yeah, you need that. You got to have a few of those need to have a sign with their arms crossed. Make it feel more 90s. Have somebody holding a sign that says like Kyle is gay.
00:41:12
Speaker
That was raw in the late 90s. Late 90s, you could... It was the Wild West, man. You could say whatever. Laser pointers. You could just shine it right in Vince McMahon's eye. Going back and watching the laser pointers all over the wrestlers is fucking crazy. The laser pointers and just the signs available per square inch. Oh, I mean, neon green, orange, white, the fancy signs where it's like 15 letters put together to spell stone cold or whatever.
00:41:42
Speaker
Yeah, you barely paid to see anything in those days. Yeah.
00:41:48
Speaker
So this guy in front of you blocking your view, you're blocking the guy behind you. Um, we'll see if they can make it. I mean, they've got time and hopefully we'll, cause we're about to transition into this. Maybe they'll pick up some cues from AEW.
AEW's Innovative Approach
00:42:03
Speaker
Let's talk about that because almost universally other than Ryan satin, you fucking ass. Um, everyone loved AEW this week.
00:42:14
Speaker
I'm given the circumstances. I don't know if it's just because of how bored I have been and how much I've been wanting to watch some, you know, like new content this week. I loved it. I think it could have been maybe the best dynamite. Like I think this is going to be a dynamite that we talk about for years where it's like you remember that coronavirus episode that was fucking rad. Well, this is the thing.
00:42:38
Speaker
I agree that it was a really good episode. You're not wrong in that at all. The problem is we've got more of these ahead of us. So it's not like it's gonna be a one and done where we think back on that. Remember that one time when there weren't fans there? There's more of that coming. So it's gonna be a period that we remember. Maybe not just one show. I did wanna say as soon as that show started,
00:43:04
Speaker
with Cody cutting a promo in the ring, but nothing else lit and it's just black. Do you know what I thought of? What? Theater.
00:43:13
Speaker
That was just a straight opening monologue from a play in a theater. Coming from one of the best actors in wrestling right now. Correct. Like it was literally, did you ever see the episode of South Park where they were doing WWE? Like all the, all the kids in town were WWE wrestlers. Yeah. That was basically that like Cody was out in the ring with a spotlight, cutting a pretty dramatic pro wrestling promo about the state of the world.
00:43:42
Speaker
and slowly got Matt and Kenny to come out and eventually Hangman acknowledged him with a cocktail in hand. I think the thing I enjoyed most about that was it wasn't that he came out and I did like that he directly addressed what was going on in the world but I liked that after that it went straight back into storyline. Right. And it was multiple guys in the ring and it didn't feel
00:44:09
Speaker
as much like a soap opera as WWE did when just like one person was just standing there talking. This felt more genuine and plus it was actually building on something.
00:44:21
Speaker
Like, there was still a show going on, and I think having the wrestlers at ringside was a huge part of being able to do that, don't you think? Everyone was in character. Like, everyone- Colt Cabana Desserts. M.J.F. was the star of that show, without question. Like, seeing Sammy Gavar and M.J.F.
00:44:45
Speaker
singing Jericho's entrance music was gold when he was coming out I was just thinking I hope these wrestlers keep singing this goddamn song cuz I am I'm not ready to let it go oh just speaking of the word goddamn we do need to hop back to the beginning real quick okay so Kenny I almost shit my pants when he said
00:45:09
Speaker
So hit the lights and hit our goddamn, and I was like, oh my god, if he says music, I'm gonna come. But he said pyro. Oh man, were you about to steal that and use that on our show? I was like, I'm about to have a sound bite forever. Yeah, no, the intro to that show, the show was really, really good. What's the status with Blood and Guts?
00:45:35
Speaker
empty arena, or I mean like they said though, they said, who knows if there will even be a dynamite next week. That's really dark.
00:45:45
Speaker
The show got got really rave reviews, though. I mean, everyone's on board. Do it. No, I agree. I don't think that like I think it's more of like if they are forced to shut down kind of thing. Yeah, that's that's so wild. The show is so good, man, man, because like that tag match between best friends and and the Lucha Brothers with Orange Cassidy on commentary.
00:46:14
Speaker
Brilliant, just brilliant. The promo, I'm sorry, we're gonna probably skip around on this a little bit, but I have to cut to, so the match ends with Pentagon kicking Trent in the dick. And hearing Chuck Taylor say, you kicked my friend in the dick when the ref's not looking.
00:46:37
Speaker
And we both text each other, I was like, I just found out you can say dick on live television. And you say back, I don't think you can. Well, I went back and rewatched that match today and they didn't bleep that out. So it turns out you can say dick on TNT. You can say dick live on TNT.
00:46:55
Speaker
People need it. It's what the people want. Oh, that was the other spot during that match. They went to give the people what they want with a hug and they touched shoulders. Not shoulders, elbows. Sorry. They tried to give the people what they want, but social distancing.
00:47:12
Speaker
And then after, after Orange Cassidy did his spot and did the trust fall onto the lucha bros, Jim Ross is like, well, we can, I, what, oh fuck, what did he say? He's like, if you, he said, if you put money on Orange Cassidy doing that move, you win. And then he said, he said, fuck, what did he say? He said something about, I wish we could ask Orange Cassidy this. And then Excalibur goes, well, he's sitting next to me, you can ask him. And he's like, oh, he's back.
00:47:41
Speaker
And Jim Ross seemed delighted that Orange Cassidy made it back from that move to the stage so quickly. And then what was the thing they were talking? They were like, we're pretty sure Orange Cassidy is sleeping right now. And it cuts over and his head's back. I've heard rumors that Jim Ross loves Orange Cassidy. I think at this point he has to, right?
00:48:06
Speaker
I mean, how do you not? He just seems kind of tickled by it. It seems like something at this point that he's having to pretend to be annoyed by.
00:48:15
Speaker
Like he gets it. Like he understands why people love it. Because what did he say? He said his career is going to last 350 years. What else from this show? Because I was also a big fan of the fucking main event, too. Well, what else did we have? We had the women's match, which I thought was a step up.
00:48:38
Speaker
It was all right. There was some sloppy spots in it to be fair. Penelope botched pretty hard, but I thought she came back with some other moves that kind of made up for the botch.
00:48:51
Speaker
Yeah, so I thought honestly I do think this was a step up in the women's division and I thought it was really cool that Penelope did get to beat Rio on dark. So I am excited for them to build up Penelope. I always, you know, liked her when she was with Joey and it's gonna be harder for me to take her with Kip.
00:49:10
Speaker
but as long as we get Colt Cabana beating the shit out of Kip Sabian later, I'll be cool. Yeah, let's talk about that fun moment after the match where Kip tries to get up at Colt's face and Colt slaps him and Kip seems shocked and he goes, yeah, I'm a wrestler too. He said, you remember I'm a wrestler. Like, I'll fight you. Oh, my God. We have Lucha or we had the Jurassic Express versus Butcher in the Blade. That was fun.
00:49:37
Speaker
That was a fun match. Once again, I get kind of annoyed at how many goddamn tag matches are on these shows. I feel like this is an excuse to get as many people on the card as you can. Sometimes it pisses me off. I think in indie wrestling though, tag matches work so well because you can just do so many spots. You have more guys to do things that you can have a rest break. I don't think this is indie wrestling, Garrett. And they're not doing those spots either.
00:50:05
Speaker
I mean, I don't know, I do still kind of look at it as what they're doing is closer to what is happening on the NDs than what WWE does. I just watched in its entirety, the Tony Khan podcast with Tony Shavani and Aubrey Edwards, right? That's her last name? Yeah. Yeah. They went out of their way to be like, just for the record, this is not the NDs. This is the big leagues. And
00:50:35
Speaker
I don't know man again I don't hate tag matches. Again I think there we saw one of the greatest matches I've ever seen in my life as a tag match. It just feels a little weird when every match is a tag match.
00:50:48
Speaker
Fair because I'd like to see how some of these guys work on their own I want to see like like some of the talent work singles matches. That's what I want to see I'm not gonna complain about it this week. It was fine I can I tell you I did play a game with the butcher once You played a game. I've played a game. He's the only wrestler I've ever played a game with Yeah, I realized that as I was watching I thought I've never played a game with anyone else. All right. What was the game? The game was called skid marks
00:51:20
Speaker
So I think I've mentioned this on the show before I'm a big every time I die fan That is the band I have seen in concert more times than any other band Andy Williams the butcher is the guitarist for every time I die I was this was actually when I was in college. I was driving to Nashville to see him and I saw that the lead singer had tweeted. Is there anybody who can make a liquor run for us? My buddy's in town. He parties and
00:51:47
Speaker
So as I was driving, I responded and was like, I'm on my way, what do you need? And I said, a bottle of Jack will do us just fine. So I picked up a bottle of Jack Daniels for every time I die. And then they invited me behind the building to play a game, which was, there was a hole in the side of the venue and we found a piece of PVC pipe and we were dipping it in mud and throwing it like a javelin at the hole and whoever hit closest to the hole won.
00:52:14
Speaker
How did you fare? I didn't do super well. I think Andy beat me, but it was nice that I got to play with him.
00:52:24
Speaker
Why don't you try to get in touch to see if he remembers that story? Oh, he does. He remembers because I would see him at like, you know, PwG shows and I'd be like, hey, man, do you remember Skidmarks? And he remembers Skidmarks. I don't like that he associates my name with Skidmarks, but it is what it is. He does. So let's talk about the big news out of this show. Fucking Brody Lee.
00:52:53
Speaker
is the leader of Dark Order, Luke Harper. Such an awesome fucking debut. And again, one of the only unfortunate things that you have to sit here and acknowledge is, man, it would have been awesome to have these debuts in front of a live audience for that reaction. Oh, how good though was that second debut? I'm sorry, I'm skipping around. Quit skipping. The Brodie Lee thing was fucking rad.
00:53:19
Speaker
It actually, it was one of the first times that I started thinking about this while I was watching. I was like, you know what? I bet I joined the fucking Dark Order by the end of the year. Guaranteed. The Dark Order is your new hangman page. I couldn't stop thinking. I was like, I dislike them so much. I'm just so bored by it. And as the second Brodie Lee got there, I was like, fuck, I'm going to join this, aren't I?
00:53:44
Speaker
If you're feeling cut off from the world, Garrett, if you feel like you've got nowhere to turn during this coronavirus epidemic, the Dark Order's there for you. And I kind of appreciate that about them. I think me and John Silver could have a few things in common to do.
00:54:03
Speaker
They just need to send you a mask. If you get one of those masks, will you put it on and take a picture? Absolutely. Will you go to the ring and throw the appropriate kind of punches? I'll wear it to the fucking grocery store for the coronavirus too. Right? That'll work.
00:54:21
Speaker
Oh, Lordy, Lordy. Yeah. No, let's think. Did you did you catch that shot at Vince McMahon and Brodie Lee's debut? Yes. How did he word that? He said it was something he was talking to Christopher Daniels and he said, you're not the first old out of touch man who didn't believe in me.
00:54:38
Speaker
Oh, shit. Shots fired. That line. That line. Yeah, he's going to be if that had been in front of a crowd, the crowd would have lost their minds. Oh, my goodness. Because I mean, a show with no crowd got me to pop from my couch like three or four times. Yeah. It was a damn good show.
00:55:00
Speaker
So, I know you want to skip around, let's skip to the end, Garrett. How you feeling about the end of AEW Dynamite this week? When I could hear the buzzing of the drone, I thought, that sounds like a drone. And when it lowered down in the middle of the ring, I was like, there's no way they're going to do two debuts in one night. This has to just be a tease for next week. Yes. It wasn't, Derek. Broken Madheart. Broken one has arrived. Broken one is elite.
00:55:29
Speaker
How are you feeling about that? Do you think he, do you think it'll be kind of like a one-off thing or do you think he'll have like a long storyline with him? I don't know. It's just wild to think like four weeks ago, he was getting destroyed by Randy Orton on Raw. And here we are. Now he's an important player on AEW. I'm so pumped for that. Like they all, they did a good job of one, entertaining me and also getting me excited for more shit down the road.
00:55:58
Speaker
For sure, and he'll have the creative freedom here to do the things that he wants to do with that character. Oh my god, we're gonna get to see Orange Cassidy interact with Matt Hardy at some point. We absolutely are. Probably on being the elite, but I don't care where it happens, I'm all in. What would you have done if Orange Cassidy had been the exalted one?
00:56:24
Speaker
And Dark Order was Orange Cassidy's doing. I'd be wearing a Dark Order t-shirt right now is what would happen. That's why it's the Dark Order. He wears those shades. Yeah, that's what they're gonna have to do. If they're just not pushing a t-shirt enough, they'll just have to have Orange Cassidy join different factions. We've already talked about how exciting an Orange Cassidy heel turn will be.
00:56:47
Speaker
Just a really slow kick to somebody's dick. Trent, he's just gonna kick Trent in the dick so slowly and he's gonna sell it so hard. Oh my goodness. Yeah, so Matt Hardy is a part of AEW, Luke Harper, Brody Lee is part of AEW. Another thing I want to talk about from this show, how fucking awesome was that Lance Archer, Jake the Snake Roberts package that they put together?
00:57:13
Speaker
That was awesome. That was so good. I just want a whole movie of Lance Archer destroying people like skanks in a fucking backwoods ring with Jake the Snake sitting in a chair smoking in slow motion. That was art. That was a music video as far as I was concerned.
00:57:35
Speaker
Lance Archer's not a guy that's been over with me. I just, I've not enjoyed his, I don't know. There's just something about him that I feel like it takes big guys longer to get over with me. And that promo was enough for me to be like, all right, I'm ready to see what Lance Archer's gonna do.
00:57:51
Speaker
He's gonna fuck Cody up is what's gonna happen. I think he's definitely gonna fuck Cody up. You don't bring Jesus out here doing the Lord's work, man. He's out there putting guys over left and right. You and Cody, me and Cody, both doing the Lord's work. Enjoy those passes to heaven, my friend. Thank you.
00:58:12
Speaker
Yeah, it's a weird time. I was so after SmackDown and Raw, I was so down because I just, like I said, not trying to be selfish. I understand what's going on in the world. I understand that shutting shit down is the right thing to do. It doesn't make it any less of a bummer. And I think
00:58:27
Speaker
You know, I've been through some personal shit in the last what six months or so. Yeah. I was really looking forward to warmer weather and all my hobbies coming back and WrestleMania and to have in the span of a few days, just like, yeah, none of that's coming on time or at all. And then just the daily inundation with Corona virus stuff and going to work and having to hear about it there. Like it's just, it's a lot.
00:58:54
Speaker
And so a lot of us, you know, we're feeling a cramped lifestyle and sad and upset and angry. So we're going to need plenty of content to entertain people with.
Staying Connected and Supporting Wrestlers
00:59:06
Speaker
So well, and that's why I wanted to suggest this new. So you've seen where online somebody has made a plug in for Google Chrome, where you can have a Netflix party or a YouTube party.
00:59:21
Speaker
And you can basically all log in, get the stream started at the same time so it does it on its own. You don't have to sync it up with everybody and you'll get like a chat feature where you can type in and just kind of chat and watch a movie or whatever on YouTube. And I was thinking instead of us like recording a watch along for beyond the mat, why don't we just do one with anyone who wants to be part of it? Right.
00:59:47
Speaker
We'll experiment with it and we'll get that figured out and we'll do a show that way.
01:00:07
Speaker
Perhaps. But I think we could do something on YouTube for that maybe, but I would like to maybe experiment this weekend and see if we can get a handful of people together to watch Beyond the Mat and, you know, just kind of have fun with each other on there. Yeah, we'll look, we'll see if we can make something work. He's gonna, he's, he's, he's gonna puke. I said that to Alex on Twitter. She didn't seem to get that reference.
01:00:33
Speaker
She had said real people have only seen beyond the matter. Something to that effect. And I put that quote. I don't think that she picked up on that. That's fair. If you haven't watched it, you know, very recently, then you might forget. I don't I don't know, Garrett. That was a pretty significant moment in that film. Who was it? Draws. Yeah. Fucking draws Vince McMahon to draws. He's going to make him puke.
01:00:59
Speaker
god damn so yeah we'll post on social media and uh figure out a time that we can all do that if you want to be part of it just send us a tweet because i think how it works is i'll have to send out a url and we'll just figure out a time that everybody just let me know if you're interested and i will send out the link and get everybody in and we can all hang out and watch this together
01:01:21
Speaker
Also, let us know if you would like the extra content. I know that people are going to have a lot of extra time on their hands out there. So if they, we do have a backlog of bonus episodes and, and watch alongs that we recorded a couple of weeks ago. So we are, we've got plenty of stuff to offer you if you want it. And a couple of things I got to mention before we head out of here. Uh, so Southern Underground pro had a show on Sunday and exit in rather than basement East.
01:01:50
Speaker
And our good friend Garrett Keith, aka Patrick Heater, won a match at Southern Underground Pro. Good for you, Garrett. Not you, Garrett. Not me, but yeah, Garrett or Patrick. GK.
01:02:06
Speaker
He, yeah, he had a really good match. It was a multi-man match that out loud made me go, ooh, a lot of times. Because during those multi-man matches, I feel like, is when you see guys do the craziest shit to try to impress. Yeah. I mean, the first- Congratulations to Garrett Keith. Yeah, absolutely. First W? I don't know if this is his first W, but at least it's his first W at Southern Underground Pro.
01:02:31
Speaker
Well, it counts because that's the one we follow. That's the one we follow. And the show looked good coming from exit in other than the way they had it set up. They had basically the entire audience behind where the hard cam was. So it kind of felt like another empty arena show. But you could still hear them, but you could still hear them. Yeah. I was sad I couldn't make that one, but I'll definitely try and make it out to the next one that they have there.
01:02:58
Speaker
Are they still gonna be doing shows with the quarantine or the lockdown rules? That's true, I guess. Well, I'm meeting like whenever the next one may be. Yeah, sure. But yeah. I think that Freelance Wrestling is doing a live show from the Pro Wrestling T's training facility. Yeah, it was called In Your Warehouse and they got a cease and desist.
01:03:24
Speaker
Wait, what happened? Pro-wrestling tease or freelance got a cease and desist from WWE for using the In Your House logo. Oh, just the logo? Wilford calling it that in the logo, so they had to rename it Warehouse Wars rather than In Your Warehouse. Oh, what a bunch of assholes. I know, of all the things going on right now, they still have time to be dicks about that. Right, what a piece of shit. Wow. Well, still watch the show.
01:03:54
Speaker
And then also, what was it? WrestleTalk put on an empty arena show where Will Ospreay fought his girlfriend Bea Priestly. I really do appreciate that the wrestlers are putting on these empty arena shows for us right now. It's the only sport that is still going. We should probably take a moment to do a nice thing and say, I've been trying to push this on social media a little bit.
01:04:17
Speaker
you know for with the circumstances going on right now across the world there's a lot of pro wrestling shows that are not going to happen have been cancelled obviously all the stuff that was supposed to happen in Tampa Bay that you know that's been either nixed or moved or whatever and um
01:04:33
Speaker
A lot of indie wrestlers are out of work and not getting paychecks because they can't do shows. So this is probably a sweet time if you've got some extra coin on you. If you're not struggling, go buy some merchandise, support your local indie wrestlers, your favorite wrestlers, go, you know, support them any way you can, whether it's merch or whether it's a donation or whatever. Whether you should be out there buying a Mance Warner t-shirt, an Effie shirt, a Dan the dad shirt, get the fuck out there and do it.
01:05:01
Speaker
Alleycat, Danhausen, Effie, yeah? We just named wrestlers. Are you wearing any wrestling clothing right now? I'm not, I'm wearing a Nancy's Pizza shirt. I have on an El Generico shirt, a Kevin Steen hoodie, and a St. Louis Battle Hawks hat. So I am fucking decked out in shit we talk about.
01:05:23
Speaker
Well, I hope we could bring a smile to your face with this episode of the podcast. Cause it sounds like a lot of people out there need it. I know why I do. And yeah, let me know if you, uh, if I should get animal crossing and invite me to your town or whatever. I don't know how this game works. I think I can come to your town and chop down your trees. I don't know how it works now either. Maybe you can, maybe you can't. I still think you should get the game and try it out. I'll maybe.
01:05:50
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Garrett, get us out of here. Hey, thanks for listening, everybody. We appreciate you every single week, and I hope you appreciate us. If you appreciate us, hop online. Give us a five-star review on iTunes. If you leave a review, we'll watch and review whatever you want us to talk about or do a watch-along. If you want to give us a follow on social media, we're at WrestleHangout on Twitter and Facebook.
01:06:13
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Which, at this point, is our Facebook even worth people going to? We can't really even see it anymore. They've taken it away from us. Facebook was a giant fucking butthole to us and basically locked us out of our own page. So what do you think? Should we start a Facebook group? We'll figure something out on Facebook. We want to thank everyone that likes our Facebook page, but we've got to figure out something because
01:06:38
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They won't even let us go in as the person running the page anymore. We have to go in there as individuals, which is dumb. And so now we're basically operating on Instagram and Twitter primarily. So yeah, if you've written anything to us on Facebook and we didn't respond, I'm very sorry. But yeah, Facebook has basically locked us out of that account.
01:06:57
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But yeah, give us a follow on all the social medias at Predetermine podcast on Instagram. I'm at guard Ted on social media. Derek is at Halloween helping. Apparently the cats had buttholes at one point in this new cats movie. You said I was going to get to talk about that. That's all there really is to say, right? The cats in the cats movie were supposed to have buttholes and then they took them away. I made a joke when I got out of that movie. The first thing I tweeted is, you know, Tom Hooper argued with the studio about giving those cats buttholes.
01:07:25
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And it turns out it did happen. Tell Mark Zuckerberg to fuck off and do the Lord's work for me. Also, hop on IWTV and watch some progress. I've been watching a bunch of shit on IWTV. Support your local indies.
01:07:45
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You can't really support them right now other than watching them on that. Yeah, you can watch them on that. They're not happening. Derek, GCW signed an agreement with IWTV. They're going to do their, they're going to live stream 10 shows a year now. That's a big deal. That is a big deal because you normally have to pay 15 bucks or something to watch one of those paper views, but now you can just pay seven bucks a month for IWTV and watch a whole bunch of shit. Wow. That's good for you. That is a big deal. I'm excited about that.
01:08:14
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This has been fun. I fucking missed you, man. I know it's only been a week, but like... It's been more than that. I needed this. I had too much energy in me and I was just pacing around the house. Well, I'm glad we got it in. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for listening and I wish we had a clip of Kenny Omega saying it, but we don't, so hit our goddamn music. And be safe out there.