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The one where the gang goes on a date
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Matt is MIA this week. Probably out stacking bodies. Its alright we've called up Paco from the minors to riff about dating and relationships. We go deep on dating decorum, first date activities and why everybody showed up to Steve's first date.
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Speaker
Yeah, I
Writing Prompts and Chris's Body Dilemma
00:00:02
Speaker
don't know. I don't know either. But that's I actually did write. I do these writing prompts. And one of the first like short stories I wrote was was it was about moving Chris's body. Just it came out came out pretty good. Pretty good. You know, my my memory is not that great, but I do. He was being a very he definitely resisted being. Yeah.
00:00:27
Speaker
Yeah, he like it was limited. It's like, can you move your fingers? Can you move your arm? You're going to have to help us. Yeah, I remember it was a lot of that.
00:00:36
Speaker
Paco, were you there? Did you have to help us move, Chris? No, I know. You missed all the fun. No, no. 100% you were there. That's one of my first... That's one of my first memories of you is you're in my story. You're in my short story.
Taco Bell Strategy Session
00:00:51
Speaker
Was I there? I mean, I remember... Yeah, the three of us went to Taco Bell after to think about... It's like, all right, how do we do this? We're going to take a break. Mid lobby move.
00:01:19
Speaker
The way Chris passed, like there's so many different ways for somebody to pass out when they're like blackout drug, the way Chris passed out, and I hope I could paint this picture correctly, is he must have tried to make it to the couch, but he didn't quite get there because we walked in and his knees and legs were on the ground, but the rest of him was just bent over face down into the couch.
00:01:28
Speaker
And then when we got back, Chris said, oh, back for more round two.
00:01:46
Speaker
I still think that feels comfortable. Like that.
00:02:00
Speaker
You want you want you want to still be grounded though. Right. Just for this week, especially because we just had Valentine's Day on Wednesday.
Romantic Reflections Post-Valentine's Day
00:02:14
Speaker
Relationship stuff, right? Yeah, just relationship, maybe just the general concept of of like romance or love or even just, you know, you first. Whatever you want it to be.
00:02:29
Speaker
the physical act of love. We are all in very different places in that. Oh, so except like some of us have had too many. Some of us haven't had one type of thing. I guess I don't know what marriage entails.
00:02:53
Speaker
It's true. It's true. I would assume cooking a good meal at least gets you that. Every time, like every day. I got to go make this dinner, guys. Guys, I got to start dinner. This dinner is not going to cook itself.
00:03:21
Speaker
Oh, my gosh. I guess we'll cut all this out. But all right. So, yeah, we're all at different places. What do you mean? Where are you at, Chris? Let's start there. I guess I'm at the very beginning of a relationship. Oh, yeah. Is this is this breaking news exclusive? No, we talked about it. No, I don't know anything. And that's about all I'm going to say at this point. Oh, man.
00:03:50
Speaker
Uh, is this, well, okay. How about we don't say anything specific about, uh, this secret Canadian girlfriend, but how about like, uh, do you, uh, do you like this part? Do you like the, like, Oh, what is this thing? Oh yeah, I do like this part more than the chase. So you're already in it, right? So you already went through the chase and, and messaged back and forth and all that. And now you're in this like very beginning stage.
00:04:15
Speaker
and this is what you like. Yeah, because once the chase ends, I no longer have the, uh, oh, is she, is she going to leave me or something like that? Or is she, uh, I pissed her off to get your hooks in her. That's what you're saying, right? Yeah. She's not going anywhere. I mean, not that abruptly at least.
00:04:35
Speaker
But do you like the chase? You just like this better? Or you don't like the chase at all? I don't think I like to chase anymore. I did. That's a young man's game. Paco's being the young man on the call. It feels like... Aren't you just a few months old? Younger?
00:04:56
Speaker
Let me tell you what the youths are doing now. Yeah, just single strap backpack. Just yeah, but I feel like you I saw you with a lot of lot of different people, not like you were if it always came off like you did enjoy the chase.
00:05:16
Speaker
Um, so yeah, I mean a little bit. Yeah. I think, uh, I think I did, but what I didn't enjoy was like, you know, I was, I was selective about, about the target that part. I did not enjoy once.
00:05:34
Speaker
Like target acquired, right?
Paco's Dating Insights
00:05:36
Speaker
And then you're like, okay, now I'm going to put some effort into this and see what happens. That part, like putting the effort in, like I'm good with that. That's fine. But like, you know, going through and like, um, filtering out like all these other options there that, that I do not enjoy.
00:05:57
Speaker
And that's what I am now. I'm like, you know, back in this scene, which is which is different than, you know, last time I was here. And yeah, I still do not enjoy. Well, you feel like you have you have too many options. Like I've never seen the the the M&M Superman video where he's just like laying on a pile of women. That's that's you basically. Yeah. No, no.
00:06:27
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. I was thinking of the candy. Yeah, I know.
00:06:32
Speaker
So like you're in this place where it's like, OK, I'm going to, I don't know, do a dating profile. And then from there, it's like, oh, I'm going to swipe right or left through, you know, a bunch of people. And then it's like that like initial small talk where maybe it goes nowhere. Like all that. I don't enjoy any of that. That's like. Do you have like a consistent opening line or whatever?
00:06:59
Speaker
on those apps? No, not at all. Usually it's just make a comment about either whatever some picture that they have up. And that seems to work because it's like it's kind of like tailored to their profile and that gets good responses. But then after that, you know, the conversations kind of go downhill mainly because I don't I'm like terrible with with responding. And then, yeah. Do you ever make a joke like
00:07:29
Speaker
started by like making a joke about how long you were in college or anything just to break the ice.
00:07:37
Speaker
It's like, so I just graduated and no. Honestly, I feel like a lot of times I'll throw like something very specific and then I'll know if they're like, like some joke that's very specific, but they'll either be on my wavelength or they won't or like they won't find it funny.
00:08:00
Speaker
or they will and then like that kinda, you know, and if they do, then it's like almost a, a like faster like connection there. Cause we'll like
00:08:10
Speaker
I'm a fan of the banter back and forth and that kind of starts it off pretty quickly. I think I completely agree with Paco along the lines of the chase isn't the same because it used to be, oh, here's a girl that's in my dorm building or something.
00:08:32
Speaker
that are one of my classes or friends of friends. That was the chase when we were young men. Now this, this online stuff, uh, doesn't have the same feel like he said, it's almost like busy work. Steve, you never, Steve, you've never done, uh, the stadium. I was going to say that because I know, I know.
00:08:56
Speaker
No, I never have. I've I know Chris was. I remember asking him about that at the time, like even way earlier, whatever the first versions of this was for the dating apps. I know that.
00:09:08
Speaker
that's been around. But I was going to ask you the same thing, Doug. Definitely, I never had that experience. And even secondhand, listen, it just makes me feel uncomfortable. It's an awkward interaction, just like Chris is saying. So I don't know how I would have even approached that. But maybe it's different if I would have... The technology was developing as I was young or something at the time. No, so I can't relate to it.
00:09:35
Speaker
Have you ever, um, never, never, never done it. Like, uh, yeah. Uh, I, I both, uh, really happy that I have never had to do it. And it's, uh, it's terrifying. Anytime like somebody has kind of like walked me through it or talked about like, wow, that's
00:09:56
Speaker
But it's so prevalent, right? It is. Literally everybody. You talk to anyone. Even people that are single that are our generation or our age. They're also doing the same thing out there. And I don't think I've ever heard anyone that really enjoys that.
00:10:15
Speaker
being on all these dating apps or anything like that i mean and so what i have done recently is i i deleted my my apps and i'm like you know i need to play i do better. In person and in like small groups or whatever so you know joining a a facebook group about whatever like you know that meets up and then dating facebook.
00:10:45
Speaker
It really helps to schedule, you know?
00:10:49
Speaker
No, but doing that is like for me is way better because then you're out there and getting to know because the other thing with apps, right? I think is like you have this idea of what you think you like, and then you're swiping left on people that you don't really even know or have a very minimal understanding of who they are. And you could potentially be swiping left on someone that could
Challenges of Dating Profiles
00:11:15
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be a really good match.
00:11:16
Speaker
Yeah, so. Do you do you need the person? You mentioned this earlier about like it can be hard to kind of present yourself like anybody that you do match with, do you need them to find you like charming or funny or do you just want them to be in your into your body? Do I want them in my body? We don't need to get into the details here, just.
00:11:43
Speaker
I mean, you get as specific as you want, I guess, but... No, um... No, I think, uh, it's... You were, I mean, you were at, uh, at Matt's thing. You were the brawn, right? I assume that's, you know, that's just... Yeah, it's all about the body, right? Yeah, this physique is what it's about.
00:12:06
Speaker
No, they were all over you, right? You were the prize. I think we all went. I must have went to the wrong of any of this. I mean, you weren't you weren't all there. You were looking at the kid stuff. Oh, you're talking about the wedding. I was talking about the bachelor party. And Horda was definitely at the bachelor party. Oh, for sure I was.
00:12:35
Speaker
Now, going back to, I don't need them to find me funny or anything, but we need to have something in common, which is harder to do via an app. It's either they're expecting all these pickup lines
00:12:56
Speaker
or it's just like I would rather avoid that and just like I've been successful just by saying like hello and saying something about either like their picture or some comment they put up then you start a conversation that way but like pick up lines and and doing all that like that's harder to do via the app.
00:13:18
Speaker
Whereas when you're in person, it's like easier. Are any of your, I assume you have like images up on the app, right? So you don't look like a weirdo or whatever.
00:13:27
Speaker
Oh, me? Yeah, but I put very little effort into my profile, which I should probably, I don't know, fix. But what I realized is I don't take serious pictures. And a lot of my faces, I always make stupid faces. And then I'm like, I need a picture where I'm semi-normal. And I think that's what everybody is trying to look some kind of normal.
00:13:55
Speaker
And yeah, it just doesn't come across right. Have you ever thought about doing like a photo that's like a bit of like a tease where you're like, you're like on a job site, just like help like the helmet, just, you know, some sort of like, like, I guess they don't call wife me there's a more for PC purposes, but you're just like, it's it's from shop from behind, but you're looking back at the camera.
00:14:21
Speaker
But you're holding an I-beam just to show them because you're the brawn, right?
00:14:32
Speaker
I mean, so much of the picture would be that. It doesn't have to be a. It's like a proper. I did have I did have a photo like that up once and I was like, you know, I'm just going to do this just to mess around. And it actually got a lot of a lot of likes because it was just obviously very silly. And it's I'm in a I'm in a robe. And the way the robe is on me, it just looks like your dicks hanging out.
00:15:01
Speaker
Yeah, basically. No, it looks like a very silly picture. Got to let them know what. Well, look at this playful guy. But it was that and it's like I have a mug that says like hot stuff on it or something. It's just I'm going to say silly. But it was it was ridiculous enough that it got a lot of likes because it was unlike any of the other
00:15:29
Speaker
pictures that I had put up. Chris, I assume it's like a similar situation for you with the robe photo? No, I think I've started putting in even less effort than Paco. Oh, like no photos? Just like the stock?
00:15:47
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I guess it was like whatever photo I could find, crop that out and put that on it. Ones that come in like a photo frame. You know, on these things, you have to be verified or whatever, or it'll tell you, you know, be verified so that people know this is a real profile. And I don't think, I mean, I'm only on one app right now, but I haven't even done that. So whoever is liking my stuff is taking a risk there.
00:16:20
Speaker
But do you try to do you try to like go on like when you're really in it and by in it, I mean, like, all right, I'm putting the effort and I have the app installed. Do you try to at least get like a few dates in a week, like different people just to kind of just push through it or are you like waiting for something in particular? That's a lot. A couple of dates a week. No, I feel like
00:16:48
Speaker
I'm looking for something in particular and then like we'll go out and then it'll either, you know, we'll find, we'll go on out on a couple more dates or, you know, we'll just quickly be like, all right. Or I'll be like, oh, this isn't, you know, going to work out and do that. But Chris, do you have like a default? Like, okay, I'm going to go on the date with this person. It's like Applebee's in a in the car afterwards or is there like a difference?
00:17:17
Speaker
tactics. I think it depends on the person where. Up first sometimes. Oh, never, never. I'm not going to put my life on the line more than it already is. Right.
00:17:32
Speaker
Uh, yeah, without getting the apple piece. Yeah, that would be a mistake. Um, no, like, is it, is it just, is it like dinner? Is it coffee or is it like a walk around the mall? It's usually always been dinner. It's, it's been coffee, uh, one or two times that actually worked pretty well.
00:17:52
Speaker
You never done like an escape room on the first date. That's a good idea. That's like interactive. Well, I think like Chris was saying, it depends on the person because I did that and I had a great time. She did not find that as as fun. What happened?
00:18:16
Speaker
Well, it was like it was us two. And there was like it was like a family of four. And like the kid was like eight years old. I was like, hold on. I don't understand. You went on a date with a family. I went on a date. Right. Yeah. And so it was like me and my date. Oh, got it. Got it. This family of four. And it was like me and like the kid who was like eight.
00:18:44
Speaker
We had a great time. We were we were loving it. But my day, not so much. And so it depends on the person. Yeah, I could I could see that. And then you're like trapped in there, right? You're like, oh, yeah, this sucks. But you're just stuck in a box with them. But we did get sushi afterwards. But yeah, that was you and the year old or you and the.
00:19:08
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's like my man solving, you know, some puzzles out there. A lot of there, right? So yeah, it's pretty good. But actually, I do want to hear about the date. What is the date night? What's a horn a date night? It's it's going. No, it's usually no kids. That's really that's right. That's the standard. You know.
Balancing Life and Relationships
00:19:38
Speaker
No, it's in various times. I either like when Betty would go into the city more, either I would meet her out there because we both work in the city, but then we both travel. But then.
00:19:46
Speaker
more recent times with the kids being having after school stuff, it would be having either my mom or a sitter come by and then take care of like a traditional day. So we've done that more time. It's really important to try. We've been trying to, we want to be better about doing that because it's always so much about the kids. But yeah, that's really nothing too crazy.
00:20:12
Speaker
Have you ever done dance classes or anything? We did do dance classes quite a while ago. We had salsa and not swing, but we took a lot of classes for one year. I assume this was pre-kids? Yes, pre-kids. Do you still remember the moves? You still got it?
00:20:39
Speaker
uh no how those dance for heroics you hung up your dancing shoes man i'll take him out once in a while i feel like while you're cooking that's a good time to throw in a couple moves
00:21:01
Speaker
Yeah. Make sure you still got it. That's true. Well, I do got the got the playlist going, but it's once in a while. I break those moves out one of these days. Chris, do you when you're when you're getting ready to go on a date, do you put on some like like music or hype? Yeah, something that's like, all right. You know, you're getting your shave on, but you're also getting your groove on. No, that is all.
00:21:28
Speaker
Maybe that maybe that is a good idea. But like, so like, there's still like, it could be still be hours before you get to the date, depending on how far away it is. Oh, you're always dating. You're always dating people. So like, just states away. Heart wants people. Heart wants people. Heart wants people.
00:21:50
Speaker
What's the most most dressed up you've ever been on a date, Chris? Like full suit, like tuxedo or? No, I think it's it's it's been buttoned up in khakis or something like that. It's been the most dressed up. Dress shoes or sneakers? I feel like I'm at a point in my life where I can dress however I want to dress.
00:22:16
Speaker
Well, yeah. When was that not true? I mean, definitely, you know, definitely. Well, definitely in Catholic school, we had uniforms. Oh, that's true. Like high school and even kind of college, you have passions you're trying to keep up with. Yeah. Yeah. Now you're saying you don't you don't care about like that anymore.
00:22:39
Speaker
Right. I forget what time it was where, you know, it was like the Jersey Shore shirts and all that stuff. The Jersey Shore shirts. Probably when the Jersey Shore was on. 2009-ish? Something like that? I don't know why. I feel like it started a little before that. Well, backwards baseball caps. That was a thing. Yeah, it's real informal. That's real casual. Yeah. Have you worn a baseball hat on a date? Have I ever? It depends on the cap, the date, right? Because if they're going to a baseball field, it's
00:23:09
Speaker
My balls. Have you been to a baseball game on a date? No. No. Have you been to a sports game of any sort? On a date? No. Like an MMA fight? Would you go to an MMA fight for a date? A first date?
00:23:24
Speaker
Yeah, they're real into it like they suggested it. Oh, that's a lot of money, though. That's a pain for it. So they're flexed on. These are all the things you're thinking of with it. She's trying to show me up. No, this was this was it at Atlantic City or Philadelphia or Vegas? Yeah, Vegas. They're flying you out. No, I'm not. Yeah, actually, it's all getting really suspicious. I'm getting nervous. It's definitely a hit.
00:23:54
Speaker
What's your what's your ideal first date? How do you start this thing off? Who ideal first date? I mean, Chris said it was shorts and a baseball cap, right? Oh, he was talking about what's what's appropriate, like a tire to go on. Chris was saying that he I don't go.
00:24:22
Speaker
If I could speak for my client, what he was saying was that at this time in his life, he likes the fact that he doesn't have to like go and he could be comfortable. He doesn't necessarily have to go all out and just have a
00:24:37
Speaker
Right. Right. But at this age. So I feel like it's true. I mean, I agree. You probably want to be comfortable and whatnot. You go the other way. You go all out and not on the first day. No.
00:24:56
Speaker
Wait, what do you want on the first date? Paint a picture here. OK, you start off like if I'm in like a character builder in like some video game or whatever, we start we start you off and you're on your underwear and your t-shirt. OK, what do we put on you? Just a smile. And now I'm arrested in minutes.
00:25:20
Speaker
No, I don't know if I've ever really put a whole lot of thought in my wardrobe. Do you shower? Do you shower before first date or are you just whatever? Yeah, if I'm coming from work, yeah, I'll go home. I'll shower. But usually it's it's casual. Right. So like a casual shower, not a casual shower. Yes. Professional.
00:25:44
Speaker
I got to get all the nooks and crannies. Okay. Casual shower. And then you just put jeans on. Is that what you said? Yeah. Like jeans and, and maybe probably a button up of some type or I mean, but that's what I normally wear anyway. It's like either a button up or a polo. Like I wear that like any t-shirt. Would you wear a t-shirt on the first date? But I'm probably not, but that's only because I've never really worn like a whole lot of t-shirts. It's long sleeve, but it says federal boob inspector on it.
00:26:17
Speaker
It fits perfectly. Yeah, it shows like they know what you're working with. This guy's a professional. This guy knows what's up. Nah, yeah, just casual. I'm with Chris. Yeah, you wouldn't be casual, comfortable. Yeah. Nah, I probably would not wear sweats or anything on Thursday.
00:26:40
Speaker
Well, I guess it depends on the activity that we're doing. Maybe you do want to wear sweats, you know. Yeah. Well, you said you did the escape room. I feel like an escape room you could still do in slightly nicer pants and sweatpants. Yeah. Yeah. No shorts. Let's see. No. But if it's the
00:27:04
Speaker
Really? Like cargo shorts so you can carry like a bunch of stuff or? Yeah, you do want all those pockets. All the tactical stuff. All right, so you're pretty casual. Chris is very casual. Yeah, if they can handle me at my most comfortable, then they can't handle me at all. If you don't know me by now.
00:27:32
Speaker
This is literally our first date with Paco as far as like, if we were to go somewhere, whether it's a day and night or if like, uh, we'll be a little bit more dressed to go out somewhere. I usually am wearing a button down at work or polo. Um, but I will, you know, switch out to like, uh, dress shoes and something a little bit, you know, definitely get a shower or something. It's always tough. Like scheduling wise is always.
00:27:59
Speaker
kind of tough to do something, but I try to do something, try to dress up slightly. Did you have a, cause I always forget that, like how it all played out with Betty, but did you guys have a technical like first, like a date date? It feels like you guys just kind of. We're right to marriage. Yeah. I mean, Charlie's around so fast that's like. I mean, like, but I thought like you started, like you were friends for a long time and then kind of just.
00:28:29
Speaker
Um, yeah, we were, we were, um, we went, we weren't really, um, we didn't date at all in, in high school. It was only like in college and we reconnected afterwards. So I visited, um, we both went back from, from college.
00:28:45
Speaker
me from Pennsylvania, you heard from Boston. So when we both bent left to New York, we would kind of stay in contact. Then, um, then yeah, you know, reached out and said, let's, uh, let's hang out with the first group of friends that were some of my friends. I think you guys remember Sam and Sean. How do you forget? How do you forget? I just saw those guys recently. You guys ever seen a dead body? Wow.
00:29:20
Speaker
They wasn't taking you after their own and get together. They never got quite to that, but they did say a lot of real. Did they really? Pretty, pretty reckless stuff. Or at least they're by their own accord. I never saw them do any of these wild things. Just a bunch of tall tales. Just a lot of tough talk.
00:29:40
Speaker
I'm not sure what you think you're talking about.
00:29:41
Speaker
Yeah, of course we had our own first dates. Do you remember any of them? Our first time we started dating was when she
00:29:58
Speaker
Came to visit in Pennsylvania in Penn State while we were still there. That was the last year. Chris walked in on you guys or whatever? Yeah. Chris was there you. I forget. That was when we all had the apartment. Yeah. That was whatever that summer was. Was it me? Yeah, because Chris and... Well, he didn't have summer classes and I thought he was doing it.
00:30:23
Speaker
Yeah. Did you? Yeah. Oh yeah. I forget how that third year was because we had the apartment and then, um, wait, I don't remember you having summer classes. I know I was there for sure, but I came back for something and maybe I had, I can't remember. You came back for like arts fest or something. Maybe, maybe that's what it was.
00:30:43
Speaker
So that was, what, like 2006, I think? 2006, that's right. Yeah, so, because I, when I was up in your apartment for Arts Fest, so yeah, that was, what is it, Park Place or something? Yeah, Park Place. But you were there, too? Yeah, but I was only there for that, like, one time. My first date, and you guys are all just barging in. Did you hear?
00:31:16
Speaker
Uh, I just, you know, it must've been, yeah, it must've been arts fester somewhere around because it wasn't, it was definitely during summer. And there, I remember that we went to a baseball game, um, some baseball game that was around. Uh, and then, um, I remember we went, when we went out, um, to whatever, I don't know if it was whatever, uh,
00:31:39
Speaker
players club or one of those places they went out to. I remember also pending, uh, some of the, um, AEs, uh, were around also. I remember meeting that group of friends also. So there seemed to be a lot of people around and it was during the summer. So, and I just can't remember what the context was.
00:31:53
Speaker
Like, uh, if there was classes or what, but I don't know. But was this the same, was this the same weekend that, um, that, uh, we had to, we literally had to
Interracial Relationships and Family Acceptance
00:32:03
Speaker
move a body. We had to get rid of Chris. No, I wouldn't, uh, that 30 years, I wouldn't put, uh, show all like that in front of Betty. So he's put on his best face for sure.
00:32:19
Speaker
What was the, maybe I've asked this before, but never, never, never on the mic. What was the moment Steve where you're like, yeah, I'm going to, was it always like, I'm going to marry her? Or was there like, you know what? I am going to marry her. Well, we were dating for quite a while. I'm sure, you know, we were dating for six years. Yeah. That's nothing.
00:32:45
Speaker
You're moving fast at that point. Just to clarify, 11 years is a perfectly reasonable amount of time for anybody. Normal. Everybody agrees with that, right? That's just a normal year. Everybody on the mic, everybody listening at home. Yes. The Deet just likes to move fast, though. Yes. You know what? That's the Ferrari. That's right. He likes to show everybody up. All right. So you, you know, you will shot your short-term wedding.
00:33:13
Speaker
At the time, it was definitely for sure. It made all the sense of the world. There was no question, but it was not day one. Did you think about it logically? Like, oh yeah, this makes sense. This is the next logical move.
00:33:33
Speaker
or like kinda I think back to Doug's point is, was there a feeling at some point that you were like, nope, this is it, this is the one? So a lot of it was just because of the family situations. There was definitely a thought where
00:33:52
Speaker
like with Betty's family where they, none of her, she has a lot of, um, of, uh, like first cousins and a lot of girls that are there and no one's ever dated or at that time, like married anybody that was not, um, was not Chinese. Oh, that's right. You saw that as a challenge. Like, yeah, there was definitely concern that, that, that was going to be an issue. Cause, um, if they,
00:34:17
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if the parents had got to know me already and that was all good, but everything was a process. So it was always a little bit tentative. It was always like, um, like them accepting me, them, you know, us all going out to family events. So it became that I was like a staple at all the family events and all that. And then, but then marriage is like, that's like a pretty, you know, I am now in the family. And even at the time, as we were approaching, I, like, um, I thought it was going to be a big issue, especially because she was the first one of her,
00:34:46
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her first cousins or her family that ever dated outside her. Yeah, not even, not married, but even like, let alone dated. So it was, it was a big deal. And then I made sure I went out of my way where I got her dad and her mom to bless everything. But it was, that of everything, it wasn't, it wasn't like that she, not that she wasn't the one, it was more
00:35:11
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I want to make sure that she feels okay with everything that comes, all the dominoes that fall afterwards. And I ended up being, you know, all these years later, going back, it was like, it was never going to be an issue. But at the time, I remember it was something that we had to talk through all the, all the different steps are going to happen. So like you were thinking, I want to do this, but what are the repercussions of doing it? No, you know, I think we're both
00:35:38
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once we had talked about it quite a bit, like in our fourth year, fifth year, because we had been together. So we always like, oh, you know, one day when we have kids, you know, we would like have that discussion. But
00:35:53
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It's, yeah, I feel like we were planning a lot of it to how are we going to, especially with her family, to make this actually happen. Chris, do you think you could go through this with somebody? A shotgun wedding like that? Yeah. No, I mean, have to go through the whole family. Because you've talked before about your level of excitement about having to overly engage with people's families. Does this seem something you could have?
00:36:22
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make your way through. Well, I feel like I would I would still need a level of growth I'd have to work on because if I was in Steve's situation, they would they would basically be saying, I don't want you to marry somebody black or uncomfortable with that. Yeah, I don't think they said that to Steve, but you don't know that.
00:36:42
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You know what? That's fair. That's fair. I don't know what they said. You can keep that. That's fine. And that might be true. They probably don't want him to marry someone black. She's already married to their daughter. Right. Yeah. And you know what? I'm sorry, Chris. I get behind that. I don't want her to marry anybody else. So it's only me. Steve, why do you keep bringing this up to us?
00:37:11
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Yeah, so you're saying that would put you in a pretty uncomfortable, untenable position? Because you said you have to do some growth. You're saying you have to do growth or the relationship or whoever that other person is would have to do some growth. I would think I have to do growth to be able to overcome this kind of thing.
00:37:39
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and not lose it. Well, it also depends on the family because, you know, you might be with a person who doesn't, is in particular close to their family, doesn't have a family to speak of. So because, uh, yeah, everybody's dynamic is a little bit different. Yeah. But I think that would still, I'd still end up with the same view of the family. If that was their views, either way.
00:37:59
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What if you didn't have the growth, but they gave you the option that you could either win them over over time or defeat the patriarch in mortal combat? There you go. Oh, that's what you would say to them. I'll take on all of you.
00:38:19
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Yeah, the paternal leader of the family. So maybe that's like some old grandfather, maybe that's- Yeah, that's a slam dunk, right? If you got- Gramps has to come in. I don't know. Remember, what was the tech and tag guy? Wong? I think he'd sweep the floor. She thought she was old too. That's true, yeah. Back from the dead, so.
00:38:44
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I would have no answer for if that was the case. Why are you marrying into the Mishima family? I guess that's mistake number one for sure. I made a terrible mistake.
00:38:58
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All right, so you need to do some growth in order to. But you're saying if you did the growth, you would potentially put the work in. Yeah, maybe not the same level of work Steve was able to do. But yeah, some like do you do you ever see yourself kissing the ring to get to get the dowry or whatever? No, I don't. I don't know if I should. Oh, you're putting everybody on notice.
00:39:28
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I bow down to no one. Except for the couch. Yeah, that's right. Oh man. I'll call back. Nice. There's the closure right there. Continue. Ten. Nine. Eight. Seven. Six. Five. Four. Three. Two. One. Game over.