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The one where the gang does a clip show
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Chris is back! To celebrate the gang dive in on all the hard-hitting topics. Yoga balls, 1990s thriller Single White Female, did Steve see John Wick 2, and more.
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The Dark Side of Call Centers
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yeah the defense rests. Chris, you you mentioned ah you don't like this call center nonsense. you You sounded like you were speaking from some recent experience or something. oh and get a lot of you I just don't like it. No, but I don't like the idea of them preying on older people and or um I guess at times desperate men too. oh Would you be okay if they ah if the just the demographics changed? Are you okay with the practice?
00:00:26
Speaker
If they prayed on drug dealers or something, I guess I'd be okay. Yeah, there you go. We're talking about innocent old people where they make them think they owe the IRS and the only way to pay them back is with like, all-mart gift cards. Right. Them fooling drug dealers with that ruse, I'm not as upset with, I guess. I have heard some of the, um, because, uh, they started using like, uh, voice doubles, like AI voice doubles of people. And, uh, they're so bad. Like the voice doubles are so bad. Uh, but still good enough that I could see how like an older person would assume it's Obama or whatever. Uh, but it's, uh,
00:01:12
Speaker
Yeah, I would. The world is feels like some aspects of like technology in the world are getting so crazy. i I can't imagine what it's like to be, you know, somebody born before computers were readily available And I was going to say someday we'll get there, but that's not
The Collapse of Society: A Hypothetical Discussion
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the case. Oh, you think we'll die, die early? ah Yeah. Well, no, I mean, we we've been around since computers were invented, but then we will be in the demographic if we survive oh well you' something like that to deal with. You're assuming that there isn't some, you know, inevitable collapse of society that then society rebuilds, reinvents the computer and then ends up back here again. Yeah.
00:01:49
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What's that? Yeah, we would be before that, though. arguably Yeah. I mean, who are you're the one with kids when when do do you predict, predict that would happen.
Cinematic Gaps: The John Wick Series
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Which which scenario, like the the restart, the ah everything goes back. Yeah. No comment. No. OK. That's a ah suspicious. I know. Yeah. It's not it's. ah um Honestly, i'm I'm struggling so hard, I'm trying to catch up.
00:02:19
Speaker
but We went the beginning of the story. I don't know how we went from be beekeepers. We're talking about the sequel. Just flipping through your... No, actually, that's that's a good segue right there. Something that we left off on 10 episodes ago, Steve, that you just left us hanging. You you watched John Wick 1, then you talked about getting John Wick 2 spoiled, but that we never heard back. like You were on a John Wick journey and then nothing. And still nothing, apparently. Yeah.
00:02:50
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He's holding firm. He doesn't want us to know. To speak for him, I did not see John Wick 2 yet. But you saw John Wick 3? Yeah, I fell asleep. I fell asleep.
00:03:05
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Oh, it was like a marathon. You you woke up. Yeah. Steve is Steve.
Audio Setups and Quality: A Tech Talk
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ah Steve, we've heard ah some mechanical robotic noise from you here and there, but really no, no coherent thoughts in the last two weeks. I wouldn't say high quality content. Yeah. That's going to have a lot of editing work on this. Yeah, that's going to be a rough one. This might be just a.
00:03:33
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This is like a ah Patreon exclusive or something. Maybe just a clip show.
00:03:42
Speaker
What's your setup? What are what are you working with, Frank? I got the Yeti mic in my face. the old headset. Oh, yeah. Oh, because the headset to here. Yeah. Why should the audio be coming to the mic? No. Oh, but, uh, are you using the, I think I had mentioned to you that the Yeti headset is, or the Yeti mic is non-intuitive, meaning that the, you want to make the mic face you, but the actual pickup is on the other side.
00:04:10
Speaker
Ah, I did something. So but like, if it looks like you're about to suck on the mic, then it's facing the wrong direction. Oh, again, I did something where I am not, that's not what I'm doing. So yeah, something that, but yeah, I guess, I guess, I guess I see today as just a trial run. I mean, your audio is successful super clear. Yeah. Yeah. I would say so. This is the clearest I've i've ever heard. I thought for sure you were pranking us on those all those other calls. Yeah. Like progressively worse. I mean, the horn is audio is for sure definitively worse. Oh,
00:04:47
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It sounds the same on my side guys. so i I don't know if this is repeatable because ah you know it looks like the computer was just guessing at what was going on.
00:04:58
Speaker
Uh, you don't know, uh, you don't know if what's repeatable, the setup or, uh, this is like a star as a line type situation. Yeah. Cause it says what says Steve was muted. Yeah, that's true. I'm trying to spare you the, uh, of
Podcast Dynamics: Listener Behaviors and Completion Rates
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Yeah. Okay. I understand. Um,
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Speaker
Yeah, Steve, turn that TV down. Come on, man. No, it's I guess it's telling me everything is going to the Yeti, but I definitely hear you guys do my headset. Oh, ah like a Bluetooth headset. Yeah. Interesting. ah Yeah. Like if you were to plug a mic into like a headset into the Yeti, which it does have an ox port, then you would hear.
00:05:40
Speaker
You would hear us and you would also hear yourself. It's like a way to monitor your own voice. Oh. That's why like when you listen, when you watch like ah radio interviews and stuff, they're like, they have headsets on it so they can hear themselves. Oh, okay. like I thought it was, yeah, I thought it was too crisply hear the ah everyone else, but yeah its ah I thought the same thing. ah Yeah. Well, why why would you need the headset to hear them? Like they're right there. All right, smart guy. All right.
00:06:09
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i I assumed it was the caller's caller line too. What do you got for us?
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Speaker
Well, that is it's you what's crazy is ah the the episode that Paco called in on is the ah least listened to, but the one that people completed the most, like it has the highest percentage of. complete Is it is it ah shorter? Is that why? ah Possibly. I mean, we have some that are about the same length, but it is definitely one of the shorter ones. Yeah, I guess it's like a little bonus episode, house garb garbage audience.
00:06:43
Speaker
So this is the first time I'm trying it on the phone with just head like ah headphones in, like just the regular ah attached show. But hearing, that's kind of what Paco described what he was doing, and it sounded horrible. So is that what it sounds like? Is it coming in like scratching and it's like really bad? yeah No. No.
00:07:00
Speaker
I mean, your audio yeah your audio is very is perfectly fine. It will sound worse, like in the recording, but it won't, like his, his was, he wasn't using a headset. He was just doing it through the car. Just scream, just scream into the dash. Yeah. is So bad. Did you listen to that episode, Chris? Yeah. Oh.
00:07:22
Speaker
I think I did. I think you cleaned it up, though. All right. ah that Opposite. I was like, this is so there's no saving this that I just went all in on it and I turned it in. I made it. I made it sound like a um like somebody leaving a message like never like old ah voice, like attached to your phone, like voice recorders or whatever message recorders. Like those always head like like a crappy quality. So and you you had that tag at the end with the yeah ah rat that ah who was that who was the other song?
00:07:51
Speaker
Oh, that's, uh, that's the firm, uh, uh, got your phone tapped. Yeah. Yeah. That was one. That was good. How, um, how far out do you think you are from being able to take, I'd say, you know what, I think right now, what are you talking about? Six and a half minutes as a paper tiger. I mean, it depends on what he wants to do. Right.
00:08:13
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As you want to come here, he's made it very clear. He doesn't want to do anything. He doesn't want to be involved in these situations. Please, please leave him alone. He doesn't even like that. We tracked him down again. But I mean, here he is. I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure if I keep the balance, I can lift up the Walker and take him down with it as long as he's not fighting back. Just just in front of his wife and his kids. Yeah.
00:08:41
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Oh my gosh. ah It's just, just to let them know I can still do this. any any time right I I'll tell you, I don't want any trouble. but this is This is my family now. I'm not going to get any more trouble as long as I can say this.
00:09:03
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machines that kind of, I mean, I can't even, I mean, I am picturing like robots, like physically restraining you. that is So this IV machines that somehow can monitor the flow or whatever, and when something like that happens, they start beeping, stop the flow and all that. Oh, the flow. They stopped the flow of the medicine. Yeah. Oh God. I thought you were saying that they stopped the flow of your blood. No, they were not sucking blood out of me. That would have been a, he may have been a hero in that case. What does they have the, what's the the thing for people that have like a kidney failure or whatever? where They do suck the blood out and then clean it out. Put it back in home dialysis. Yeah, there we go. Yeah. All right. All right. We've all been to a hospital for a countdown.
00:09:49
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I think they're going to dialysis, Doug. ah Yeah. I just Googled it and yeah, it's dialysis.
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Confirmed.
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you
00:10:16
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I mean, you'd you'd also think that a you know well-accredited architectural engineer could put out some decent audio, but here we are. So I'm going to take a guess at what he said.
Home vs. Hospital: Physical Therapy Discussions
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Here we go.
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um So in the hospital, yeah, they have the best equipment. Rehab would have the best like rehabilitation equipment. And then at home, it's just my stuff. But I feel like those things lead to like maybe a level of like cockiness.
00:10:51
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among them where the know the PT person that just came for me was able to was content with working with exactly what I had here. ah The hospital ones they're more they should be more focused on the PT but around any hospital things I have to work with like an IV. ah And then rehab they kind of take you to like a gym and everything but they Like if you're, if you're messed up or something like Matt being sick, he would still have to do rehab today. Hit Matt with the drive-by. but you'll so you like Even though Matt's sick, yeah he would still have to do all the rehab today because they say, you know, you have to do three hours a day.
00:11:40
Speaker
There's like no, uh, no, they no days off or whatever. They would they would be risk PT with somebody who has the kissing disease. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. i'd say Yeah. Let's, let's push it through. Uh, I guess that makes sense as far as like working with the stuff you have at home. Like what, what is your setup at home? What are we talking like a, like a broom and like a jump room or something? Like what's the. No jump ropes, I have exercise bands, the walk, thats but' here yeah the yeah. A good amount of stuff. No yoga ball? I actually do have a yoga ball somewhere. Just deflated somewhere? Yeah. Because if it's inflated, you should not be losing it. Yeah, I should be able to see that in this this apartment. but Like, oh, what's holding the bed up?
00:12:31
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i would assume that be four for yoga balls who you would think just's a breath going with it all the time whoa and It is crazy that at in the dorms, people would would loft their beds with like four of the cheapest pieces of plastic. like you go you know You go to like Walmart, you buy the bed stacker thing. Oh, yeah. and It's just like, yep, I'm just going to ah risk my life on this $9 product so I can put a bin under my bed. I never heard of ah issues with No, I don't. Yeah, I don't think so. ah Steve, you I don't know why I'm asking Steve a question, to but whatever. Steve, you had a lofted bed, right? Here we go. This is about John Wick. That's the last thing I heard. So I saw this. All right, we could fill the blanks. I believe senior year Steve had a lofted bed.
00:13:26
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research hu guy yeah What do you think I heard? I think I heard, does not compute. Yeah. Yeah, I heard 404 error. Yeah, that's ah yeah i'm almost I'm almost certain because I think, ah I feel like there was like, Steve liked to have movie nights in his senior dorm room. ah And i I do remember there being a little bit of extra space because of the loft. of what What dorm was that?
00:13:53
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the The one that he was an RA. Yeah, where was that? I can't remember. Are you quizzing me or you want me to, like, you don't remember? I'm sure he knows. I think it was West. Yeah, it had to be West. Oh, yeah, West. Oh, right. West. West what? Yeah, I'm not going to say.
00:14:13
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but cost ah Yeah. What was the one that Matt, you and I were in? It was to the left of ah the dining hall. I know that. I don't know what it's called. Oh, they had different names. That's right. The whole thing wasn't just West. I mean, the whole thing was West, but they each had their own whatever. Yeah. ah Yeah. I'm almost certain back to the original statement that ah not only did Horner have a lofted bed there, but he watched John Wick 2 there. Impressive. Yeah. Actually, I'd screen or DVDs from someone.
00:14:44
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Yeah, just like a demo. I was like, I'm going to get this movie made someday. Get out of my dorm. Remember, what was the RA that we had in Penny Packer that never did anything? And she was like, always wasted. Wow. That was impressive. Yeah, she just whizzed me happy birthday, so. What? I know, yeah.
00:15:09
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but but Oh, she's like almost a month late. yeah Well, yeah, I know it was late, but all right. So pretty freshman year like pass out in a hallway and came back drunk and didn't know what to do about it. And then and then somebody had to carry her up upstairs to her, which is like I think bare minimum. That is the thing that RA should know what to do about.
00:15:34
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Yeah, but yeah, I mean, that's looking back on it now. That's the wrong thing to do, unless like somebody's going to watch him all night. But that's, yeah, the minimum thing to do at least ah get him to their room. Yeah. Yeah, that is that is pretty that didn't work out well for Horner. Uh, Horner, did you ever find somebody passed out drunk in the hallway in the dorms? He he caused it, right? Caused it.
00:16:03
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Well, is that is that I assume that you're conflating Horner's own activities with his dorm, the people he watched over his activities, or are you saying that Horner got a bunch of freshman kids?
Neighborhood Mysteries: Chris and the Stalker
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I guess it was West Hall, maybe sophomore kids drunk and then left him in the hallway. I guess he can't defend himself right now, right? I mean, yeah, I feel like we're using technology as a I can't defend myself.
00:16:31
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Let's get this robot some oil and then give him a chance to, to rebut together or whatever. If during that time period, if you're a, if your neighbor, uh, just to catch you up quickly, uh, Steve, uh, Chris has a neighbor who's a stalker and a guy or girl. Uh, I think girl single, single white female, if I'm not mistaken, she stalks you.
00:16:56
Speaker
Apparently. I guess. Or her dog stalks my mom's dog. One of them. Yeah. the The main details I've gotten from Chris's mom is that, uh, this, this girl wants to take Chris away. So that said, if during that two hour period, if she had effectively like barged in and told you that you were her husband, do you think that would have worked? Oh, and me being completely unresponsive. yeah yeah I don't know what she would have got out of that. I mean, what's she trying to get right now? I don't know if she wouldn't have gotten like power of attorney or anything like that. Is this like a dangerous situation? I don't think so yet. Yeah. Yeah. I think if you've seen single white female, it didn't start out dangerous. No, it was like more than anything. It was like, you know, just ah cute. it was like ah It's like a meat cute type of situation. Yeah, right. Exactly. So I don't know. Well, I guess the dangerous part is I don't know who she is. You you don't know you don't know her name. You don't know her face.
00:17:53
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and na No, none of that. Only why my mom has met her, and somehow she knows of me. Oh yeah, why won't your mom know? Don't be ridiculous. Yeah, yeah. But no, my mom, you know, constantly needing to walk the dog. There's been interactions with her who somehow, you know, remembers me and says we should hang out and stuff like that. I think you mean i think i think you should go for it.
00:18:19
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Yeah. Well, I mean, worst case scenario, it's like a swim fan situation, right? Yeah. And I think that ended well. I think so. Yeah. Or fear. Did fear end well? I think fear ended well too. Yeah. Just based on the titles, you'd think there. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, it it can't be like, uh, what was that, uh, got one move misery. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That might be the most.
00:18:45
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Most accurate. I mean, but I don't really, I guess this podcast would be the only thing that she would do more of. She's the one like, uh, that's been completing all the podcasts all the way through to the end. Yeah. She's a huge fan. Oh man. i mean Number one fan. And that would make me wonder if I need to give you guys up for a save.
00:19:08
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Hmm. I'm trying to think could somebody, yeah, I think both first and last names have been, I think, uh, yeah, I think people really wanted to, they could, they could track us down. So yeah. All right. And I can do it all. I'm barely on it. The real stars are, and then they knew, uh, and then name you guys off. Yeah. But you know how, you know how people love those, like, you know, their, their, their person, their character, their favorite is usually not the main person. Yeah. That's true. Like look at the, all the, you know, the side characters on like the Howard Stern show, right? Yeah.
00:19:39
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Ba-ba-boo-ee. Ba-ba-boo-ee, yeah, exactly. No, he's not the RA, but he might as well have been, right? ah Yeah, Eli's **** will drop the ball. Drop the ball there. ah Because of some of the the still pending ah litigation, I'm going to probably ah delete delete that portion from the published audio. Although, with all of Steve's audio, it might all have to be deleted, to be honest.
00:20:04
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so Well, the that summer didn't we lose an RA due to him starting a fire or something like that? Well, now we're saying Horda was an arsonist.
00:20:17
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ah I feel like it was another guy with a memory. I feel like Steve could easily say, no, I didn't start the fire or yes, I did start the fire. And if he doesn't say either, then I think that speaks for itself.
00:20:29
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Yeah, that's almost like when they ask athletes if they're doing steroids and they try to change the subject. That's kind of what Steve's doing here. Yeah, that is. Is that what I'm doing? Oh, see, he had a chance and he just came in with a question. Right. perfect Also perfectly clear audio, too. Real suspicious. I i i don't remember any fire. I don't remember a fire. Yeah, me neither. His name was like Raw or something like that.
00:20:58
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He started a fire. He started like a fire in a trash can. He was an RA. This was in the, this was in Preff, the West, West, the something the dorms? Yeah. No, I don't remember that at all. I, to be honest, I don't remember. Oh, this is, that actually does remind me of something else, but I don't remember the RAs that summer at all. I thought it was a- I didn't even know we had RAs. Yeah.
00:21:28
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a more of a personal assistant for some of us than others. Yeah. talk that's hard Would you like anything else? Mr. um Mr. yeah few he I assume that was, uh, you know, anyway, uh, the thing I did, well I mentioned this to Chris cause it came up, um,
00:21:51
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Uh, there was a, uh, a gentleman doing something, uh, horrific here in Philadelphia, but it reminded me of somebody from pref summer. Uh, mainly because of the details of the case are very similar, but do you guys remember, uh, I believe we referred to him as like the bed bandit. He was like that freshmen or that pref summer, he was climbing into.
00:22:15
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he's getting his dorm rooms because people are leaving their doors unlocked or whatever and he was getting into bed with random girls and he just lay in bed with them until they woke up and they run out of there and eventually he got caught and got expelled. But there was like a window where he was like the bed band. That was during press summer? Yeah, I assume Matt I mean, Matt doesn't.
00:22:32
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um I don't think he remembers our last call. so Right. Yeah, this is no recollection here of this. Although that is also itself a little suspicious, but and I guess we can't get an answer from Steve
Summer Programs and Protests: A Humorous Reminiscence
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either. so No, i don't I don't recall that. Really just just down to Chris and I, but I brought it up because ah there's a person here in Philadelphia that was doing the same thing, like an adult, like a 40-year-old man.
00:22:55
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That's a that's a crazy. I mean, it's it's you could say it's a crazy thing to do. It just seems more. What I'm saying is how do you think you're going to be able to do that and not get caught? Well, he did. He did it a couple of times. So, geez. Yeah, he did get. Well, also, I think he was doing it in the dorm that he lived in, which is even crazier. So speaking of all that, looking at it, it there was a lot going on during Preff. that you know we're kind of introduced to adult life pretty quickly and I wonder if that's like a good thing or you know I should have moved a little slow I constantly constantly think about
00:23:35
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ah like, ace effectively protesting the fact that they weren't allowed to leave campus. Like, I think about that all, I think about the leader, like, speaking up for his, his ace compadre is just like, this is, this is unfair, this is not equal, like, just the, how, how very strange that situation was. What was the reason they weren't allowed to to leave the ah the door the campus? I don't know. That was just like the structure of their program was they were there less time than us. I think it was like six weeks. Are they still there? are they and I think so, yeah. It's like a Paco type situation.
00:24:11
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i not to paco but Yeah. um But yeah, I don't know. Yeah. They were there like like half the time that we were there and they and weren't allowed to leave campus. And I think they had like a 7.30 PM bedtime or so. So most of that's true. That that does seem unfair. Yeah.
00:24:29
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Well, to to Chris's question, I think I was oblivious to half of the stuff that was going on. But had I known about ah you know but people passed out drunk in the halls and bed bandits and stuff, I think, yeah, that would have been a little shocking. RAs? We have an RA?
00:24:45
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you well just You went through the whole time not knowing we had r a RA. That's a bad RA. Yeah, exactly. ah Do you think you were just too distracted by stacking bodies, or was it something?
00:24:59
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Stacking grades man back in graves, i don't think that's
00:25:08
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Stacking graves. Yeah, burying only one body in ah in a you know but are that square footage. What are those things called that you find in in cemeteries that do have multiple bodies like stacked on top of each other and is effectively a stacked grave? Sort of an M, not a mausoleum. but like ah You might be right, it might be mausoleum. but Those are like little buildings, right? Yeah, but you could effectively think of them as stacked. So you were creating mausoleums. creating mausoleums, you're creating mausoleums yeah.
00:25:39
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What I've been saying the whole time. um yeah yeah I don't think I yeah realized how much was going on. I think i guess maybe Preff did a good job like just keeping us so busy that there wasn't a lot of time to like get distracted and lost. and Did you go off campus during Preff?
00:26:00
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um I don't know. I mean, maybe like to College Avenue and you know Beaver Avenue or something. They were saying to college. I was sneaking out of Penn State to go to the the Tech Institute across town. I do remember, ah we Chris, you myself and
00:26:23
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who no one on this call has any relationship with. We got shoot out by somebody, maybe the physics professor, maybe Victor the Vector. I don't know. We got shoot out by somebody and then we went and had Chili's to commiserate. na Which one was it? Because we were like failing something. Something like that. I don't know. You should have been stacking graves instead of family classes. Not everybody can spend their summer building mausoleums, man. I think this metaphor is breaking down a little bit.
00:26:54
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Just like those mausoleums that you're not taking care of. um Yeah, i don't i I want to say it was the vector. ah Maybe it was ah now. He doesn't seem like the type to like give people a hard time. it like ah it was either victor or very sure Yeah, it was one of them. ah Wait, who taught chemistry? oh What was his name?
00:27:15
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That was early in the morning. I think it was 8 a.m. class, yeah. What was his name? Why do we remember everybody else's name but his name? Because they had nicknames. Yeah. I think they were all grad students, right? Yeah, and it's summer. I think post-grad. This class was particularly hard because it was in a fine air-conditioned I think we we were like in a janitor's meeting room. Staying awake was a problem. number one I mean, I, I personally had to stay awake. Cause if I, if I even thought about falling asleep, uh, still my shoes, yeah he really had it out for you. Um, well I just thought that was the funniest thing to do, you know, 10, 20 times, I guess.
00:28:08
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Yeah, it was to like slowly pull my shoe off, caress the back of my ankle, and then the bottom of my foot, and then the light kiss, and then he would hide the shoe somewhere. I don't know how he did this without the professors noticing. Oh, I mean, when she had to write a something on the board, it would take forever. Oh. Because it was such a long equation. I mean, there was one time he put them outside.
00:28:32
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i think that's yeah far away and yet the rest of us were struggling too much to care about helping you but what i was doing
00:28:45
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it was a moral dilemma for a lot of us yeah no yeah like everybody Yeah, everybody had their own their own ah their own concerns. that's That's fair. I think I was still trying to recover from the walk there. It was cross other side of campus, right? yeah Yeah. I think it was like chemistry, then other side of campus, or was it something like that? Yeah. I want to say it was a solid multiple miles.
00:29:10
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a did you got Did you guys go to any, ah and Matt, I already know the answers that resounded yes, but did you guys go to any frat parties, like off-campus frat parties during the prep summer? I'll speak for Steve and say Steve did. Steve did. Oh, just Steve did. That's true. I know I did too with Steve. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to remember if that was freshman year, if that was prep, because what was going on during the summer months?
00:29:35
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That's what I don't remember. Because because we like pledged that frat Chris and I. it with yeah That was fall. Freshman. Yeah. But what what was going on in the summer? I don't recall. There was some ah some mild frat. But like fraternity guys had to be there because they had to take all the classes they could. Like what you said earlier when when you said, oh, like ah an adult life hit us fast and prepped. Is that kind of what you're alluding to or are you alluding to something darker? um Well, so we had to watch Steve go through like a public trial, right? That's true. that was That was something new to me, I guess. Something new.
00:30:23
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you never You never saw a fellow student be ah accosted by by leadership at a school? No, not like that. now Have you seen it like that since then? ah Not like that, but i yes I guess I could see it as an adult.
00:30:40
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that coming i don't think it's I don't think it's true. I think it's just what my memory has done, but I do remember that ah ah trial. They all had to share a chair. We were on stools. There were three stools set up. Right. i Yeah, I assume so. That's logical, but I can't picture it that way. I picture like a slight stacking situation.
00:31:00
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And we like yeah ah each each had a monologue and had to be on the stool. I think I was on talk pretty distinctly remember it. did they They didn't say anything, right? Only you spoke for the most part. Yeah. I spoke, I spoke for my, my fellow inmates.
00:31:16
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Yeah, look looking back on that, do you think that was useful? did it Did it change your trajectory in life, Steve? I think it made me remember what the ah the consequences were ah just because i I never ever got in trouble for anything. ah So it was like a very, yeah, I mean, it all comes back quick. I think I don't know what the appropriate Um, you know, discipline should have been, but I know that immediately after it was like, you know, I had a, my parents recalled and all that kind of stuff. I remember it being like very, uh, yeah, it was, it was, uh, traumatic, even though there was no, nobody got hurt or anything like that. It was still like a very real, you know, all of a sudden real situation. Was there ever like a conversation with like your family that's like, Oh, you're not going back there. You're going to and a nearby state school or something?
00:32:08
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No, nothing like that. But I remember like my my ah my dad and my mom didn't know what to say, really. ah they didn't my I felt like my brother, Bobby, was like really disappointed. ah He's the one that gave me the talk. And I just remember saying, oh, then that's I felt like ah I let him down. But ah yeah, my my dad and my mom never really gave me ah um that hard of a time. Or they never said they were threatening to to pull us out or anything like that.
00:32:36
Speaker
My mom would be more than happy to threaten you. Because in the in the end, you're you're the only one that made it, so. Do we know? We like to say it only works. Oh yeah, I guess so. We know he got expelled. oh Oh, you mean made it through Penn State. Yes.
00:32:53
Speaker
Oh, that. Yeah, I think we do. Well, they could have come back, I guess. Right. I thought ah dropped out on his own and then Hicks. Also, I thought he got it. Did he go? But they didn't spell it for stealing that project. Yeah. Who made it, didn't he? Which which Matt was casually bragging about using these projectors in the last episode. Oh, yeah, they were great. Other people, other people getting thrown out. I forgot they still represent and they had it in their dorm room, right? That's just silly. How did they? Oh, I guess on the camp, they had the camera feed or something. Yeah. Oh, that's why. I mean, two black guys. None. Just watch. Oh, yeah, campus police.
00:33:35
Speaker
Oh, you think he ratted them out? Yeah. Well, he's just doing his job. he went to pull his gun and then he's like you know what i'm just gonna write him up yeah say this from later
00:33:48
Speaker
ah That dummy. That's fine. We'll censor his name. um Interesting. that is ah So that's the type of thing you were talking about, Chris, is just seeing beloved friends get just torn us under. Yes. Well, I had to skate by in that scenario that I was probably minutes away from also being involved. That's true. If you had gotten if, you know, wrapped, wrapped up in all that, do you think you would have come back to to Penn State? Oh, I don't know, because I had my doubts about it in a bunch of times. That summer or just throughout your tenure? Throughout that summer. for sure really
00:34:29
Speaker
yeah because you know i Obviously, there's a Penn State campus in Erie. yep you know I always juggled that idea. so what What sold do you on it? You could say, Chris, go ahead. what Not even coming to Penn State. Matt, why are you sitting up straighter?
00:34:48
Speaker
Stay staying at main campus. Was there like, you said like, oh, you had your doubts, but then you ended up staying. So unless I was just remembering. I think there was a time I talked to him and said, oh, this is I think this is too hard for me. I'm getting crushed. And he was like, oh, this was made particularly harder than it's actually going to be. but Which I think was kind of true. Yeah. No, saying no sane person would make their schedule like that. Yeah. Eight to nine.
00:35:17
Speaker
Yeah. but yeah ah ah so So you're saying that that's who kept you like that conversation. You're like, all right, i'll okay I'll give it a go. Yeah. Not Matt. Just to be clear, not Matt. No, Matt never gave me that. Wow.
00:35:35
Speaker
Wow. You got it. You can do this. Actively rooted against you. i think right You don't have to answer that question, Chris. Just leave me any packs of gum you didn't eat and be on your way.
00:35:49
Speaker
oh You know what? maybe the Maybe the scenario where I did skate by knocking the trouble like Steve did made me stay more because I'm like, am I a touchable? Right, yeah. Is this do this easy? Yeah, I do remember during the during the trial, you like put your fist up in the air.
00:36:08
Speaker
yeah Solidarity. why Yeah, why is he doing that? yeah you could you could see If you looked it closely enough, you could see you mouthing the words fight.
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00:36:19
Speaker
it's Yeah, and in that that cause been actually have to align with so factor Because he also wasn't skated by it. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I feel like you danced with the devil a couple times Yeah, you always got burned. You talk about Steve Uh steve's the devil are you mean? but fact Yeah, yeah, he was never never up to good I felt I feel, let's, let's be honest here. Did you ever like s**t, actually? No, but I wouldn't say I disliked him in the beginning. I had a picture from my cross country relay team, but that's about it. it Did him s**t start it? I thought this is weird.
00:37:04
Speaker
Real weird. did you Were you ah upset that she she picked some ******* over anybody else? I think at that time, i like it seemed like she was so much older than she actually was. Yeah, sure. It seemed real weird. I mean, do the math. She is very old right now. It was a 10-year difference, right? he was ah She was mid-30s, I thought. Whoa, really? I think she told me.
00:37:32
Speaker
Yeah, I think she was 35 or 36. She told us she was 28 and it turned out she was 35. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Wow. I was just thinking about that. thought I thought she was 28. Yeah. So she was 30 years old when she was born or something like that. Yeah. though Yeah. She's a, she's a ah little old lady these days. Yeah. Almost could have been his grandma.
00:37:54
Speaker
Well, on that adorable note, I'm going to cut out early to save my voice a little bit. um But Chris, I'm glad to to hear your voice and glad that recovery is at least. Who's finally giving you that pep talk? I know. Give him us flowers.
00:38:14
Speaker
What I needed in all these years, I feel good now. ah Good. but not if you know not if this is what we're working with. this is so What if we're teasing it right now and then they're like, it just never happens.
00:38:29
Speaker
Oh, we just we just happened. to We just always talk about how we're going to talk about it and then we just never talk about it. Yeah. I'm not mad at that. Not not mad. That's almost like a Dragon Ball Z episode or like next time, but it's a whole recap of the beginning of the episode is a recap of the last episode. I think we did that in one episode and Matt got pretty furious about the fact that we were just talking about the episode that we recorded with him. You don't want to know. That's right. You're right.
00:38:58
Speaker
Uh, but yeah, that's, ah I mean, that's because Matt doesn't want to do something that's never stopped us before. yeah We play Tekken all the time.