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The one where Steve was the bully the whole time

S1 E13 ยท West Halls
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The gang gets lost in the woods. As long as they have their electric cars and Matt's favorite capsule toilet, they should be okay.

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Creative Hot Dog Recipes

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Well, and speaking of park food, I'm gonna make myself some hot dogs here. Oh, look at you. Yeah. Mr. Fancy Pants. ah that's That's fine. As long as they're they they have veggies in them, that's that's fine. That's chock full of them. You know what you know I do? I do baked beans on top. ah are you are you Are you single again? Is this your way of... Indirectly? yeah I'm going to go make my my sad man sandwich.
00:00:31
Speaker
that's Oh, yeah. And my right shoe, the toe flaps up. Yeah. That's true. No, you just duct tape it, right, to hold it down. He is right. And when you're all done, you just put it into your checkered ah little baggie. Right. Cling it over your shoulder. ah youre Oh, yeah, you're cooking it. You're heating. you're You're literally heating the can of beans over like a ah barrel fire. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's all right. I mean, you know, again, we're not going to read into it. Right. That's just and say how it is right now.

Luxury Camping Experiences

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Cause yeah, I mean, you, you hear of people like, Oh, I got a tent that sleeps 16 people. And you're like a bit excessive, don't you but then, then you get there and it's three people and they're like, Oh, I actually have some room to to to lay down. So yeah, especially like you have like wet conditions or something. Oh yeah. You have like a separation. Like here's my living room, right? Here's my mud room. and it's <unk>p take your shoes Take your shoes off, please. Yeah, that's the respect. Yeah. This is where we process the meat over here. is
00:01:41
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Uh, they have those type of tents at, um, a lot of the music festivals, like the at the ones that aren't like in cities, like you can, for absurd prices, you can rent tents that have bedrooms, like a living area and a bedroom and like a refrigerator. And the craziest part is a bathroom, like a shower bathroom attached to it. It's all in one tent. Wow. Yeah. They're, I think they're like 3000 a night or something like that. So gee I don't know what it that, um, what you call, what is like,
00:02:11
Speaker
comforting or why the appealing part of that, the whole glamping idea where it's like, you know, tighter spaces, tighter quarters, but it's everything, you know, that you could, any creature comforts you want, but you know, you pay a lot for it in a very small scenario, like a tent, like I want a really nice tent. I want a really tricked out idea. I want all that stuff. I don't know what that is. I'm trying to do some stunts here. But across the board, it's like everybody, like that's, it's something that's Yeah, I mean, there's something I guess there's something like charming about the idea that you can watch your, you know, Netflix nature documentaries in the middle of the woods.
00:02:50
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yeah Microwave your popcorn, do all the things. Um, yeah, i I know for me specifically, I do. There's some there's something in between regular camping and glamping that I definitely kind of appreciate. There's like a level of glamping where she's like, this is ridiculous. But ah I don't I don't hate having a toilet when I'm in the woods. Like that's not I'm not opposed to that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like if it's nearby. Yeah. Yeah. Because you could do that pop up thing where you could have like a toilet outside also, which is that's Oh, yeah, you can do the like the peat moss toilet like the capsule toilets. Yeah, yeah. well that's yeah i know That's like Matt's big thing. as i I have been going on and on about those. Yeah, freshman year. Have you guys heard about caps? Yeah, Matt, you've you've told us all right.
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please um So wait, you've, I think I caught the tail end of this what I enjoyed. But you're you started camping with the with the kids?

Camping with Kids and Scouts

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Speaker
Uh, yeah, we did it like, the um, first guy is going to start, uh, Girl Scouts. And, uh, that's like, for sure we already started and Betty's going to be a, um, I'd like a a troop leader. Um, cause you, it comes out with like a small group of girls and then it, you know, it's, it's, there's certainly amount of dedicated time you got to put into, but you know, don't yeah. Um, his, the ah cub scout operation that they have in town there, they welcome kids in in the fall season. So we, we met up and they had the end of year camp event. So they did it in a local, it's only like eight minutes away from us, but it was like an overnight camping thing and I had no gear. So we just, you know, just kind of threw it together, bought a bunch of stuff. Um,
00:04:35
Speaker
just to see and he just to see how he would take it. I imagine Betty and I talked before we we're like, yeah, let's we might have a scenario where we just come home at 1am. He can't, he won't be able to take it. He won't be able to to be too uncomfortable. But now he he did the whole thing. Like we were outdoors. There was a campfire thing. There was skits like they do have that a lot of that camp feel um but with you know a working bathroom like a facility and they had a a grill and stuff that was all done and it's we didn't do have to do any of our own cooking so it was a very nice entry into that whole scenario but um i tried to chase that so the next weekend was father's day and we did uh an overnight camping thing in our backyard which is pretty cool so yeah and you know just
00:05:16
Speaker
felt left dash, like I want to go camping. So we' we're like, okay, well, let's do this. So it was, you left, you left inside while you were camping in the back. Looking out the window. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, no, but it it was, it was, it was good. Um, the, uh, next year, I was just going over with Matt, like, um, and you know, and just in general, I like to see what other kind of gear people have, a thinking that I'm only going to, you know, slightly, you know, go go up a notch, not not go wild, like a major glamping situation, but you know, just enough. So we'll keep it. Have you been to ah ah REI? ah No. So they do like a kind of like whatever your excursion is, that they're the people that work there are like really good at kind of like guiding you through like all the stuff you need. They they probably upsell you a little bit, but you know, there
00:06:11
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Like I know like when we ah we did like our like road trip and there was like a bunch of other like parks and stuff we're gonna visit all the hiking and all the stuff they kind of like walked us through like all the different gear we want to have for the different places we were visiting. So so how expensive has your ah camping experiences been? Like did you go camping as a kid? Are you like you're backpacking now? when you do the ah the national parks. Yeah, I'm on a trail right now. um Your audio is coming in real good. This is this is nice. This is a satellite call. It's very expensive. It's worth it. Did I go hiking as a kid? Yeah. I think we talked about it. I did some like camping stuff.
00:06:50
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similar to like kind of what you were describing with uh where was like an actual kind of like place with like a facility but like kids and whatever um i've gotten more into like trail hiking like post post college to be honest uh and as far as gear not i mean like specific types of like um uh like clothing that's like breathable and tactile and waterproof and reusable and I don't know there's like just stuff like specific clothing that it's like it's really nice to have it's not like necessary I would honestly say but it's just kind of nice to have when you're on a trail and then as far as like the that gear like we tend to not do like tent camping that's not really our bag I think the furthest would be like car camping and which I actually to be honest I am actually I would like to do more of that to get like one of those you can kind of get like car like tents that like you pop up on the top of your car. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And they're like, ah it's it's a pretty, pretty decent setup. So I'd be interested in doing that more so than like, tent on the ground. But um yeah, I think the one time I did have a tent, like the one thing that you're supposed to do, ah like it more so than anything else is just just air that sucker out. And if you don't, it's like ruined forever. So pretty, pretty immediately ruined it forever. So
00:08:11
Speaker
Car camping, that's the entry into van life, as I understand. Oh yeah, that is the gateway. ah Yeah, which, one of these days, one of these days.

Camping with Electric Cars

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Speaker
The the ah doing car camping with a fully electric car is like, I think that's the way to go. If you want to just drive towards that glamping. ah I am leaning towards ah next. I mean, unless Jeep does something amazing with their electric car, which I've seen it and it does not look great at all. So I am leaning towards Rivian because they have like a midsize coming out. Their their main SUV is way too big. It's like the size of an Escalade, but they have a midsize coming out and it is like built for camping. Like Rivian has built out like a trail charging network and that has like all these functions that are specifically for camping I think the Teslas have that too, right? They have like the camping mode where it'll just keep like the heat on stuff. Yeah. But, but, um, yeah, no, agreed. Like electric cars definitely have some like fun capabilities when it comes to camping stuff. Rivian R1T adventure pickup. Yeah, there's a pickup. and there's This week's sponsor, I think Rivian. That'd be great. They are not doing a good job of spending their money. like
00:09:26
Speaker
ah Yeah, the R1-S was the SUV, but now they're coming out with the R2-S, and it's like ah it's ah it's much it's like the size of the Jeep I have right now. so oh gotcha But fully electric, 400-mile range, kind of like you know all the stuff that a middle-aged guy needs to, ah I don't know, fill their ego or something, but yeah, that's the goal. What what about you, Matt? What's your camping situation like right now? Elise has done a lot more camping than I than i have. um we We actually, um when she was I think like in her 20s, she did a lot of these hikes in New Hampshire to like huts that are built out there. They're like just big cabins that sleep a bunch of people.
00:10:10
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so for her birthday we did a ah hike into one of the huts and you bring like your own sleeping bag and like um uh some of your gear and stuff like that but you get to sleep in these um big cabins and they have these big big community dinners and stuff like that the food was uh was quite good they feed you dinner and breakfast um you stay overnight there and then you can do like hut to hut hikes um which is pretty cool um because you're just kind of out there but but Yeah, that's I personally enjoy that more than that. Yeah, the tent on the ground camping is like, you know, that's just a little rough. um Yeah, not not not super into that. They actually, you know, there's like a ah you never did the Nittany. What is it? Nittany Mountain? What's the mountain by state college? Yeah, Mount Nittany Mountain. Yeah. You never did you ever hike that trail? No. It's pretty good. There's like a fire station at the top of it that you can go and climb up and pretty, pretty great views of like the entire area. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. My parents have done a lot of hikes around. I i think I might've done zero hikes in and around our our area. yeah I didn't really have much of an interest. You know, my parents- It was mainly drinking and partying in high school.
00:11:26
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It's time for hikes. You sure you don't want to go to class, man? I got to down another one of these. Yeah. Got the big game tomorrow, so I don't want to get into it. No, I got more into hiking being in Colorado, because people won't shut up about it, so. Yeah, that's it. All right. People in Colorado won't shut up about being in Colorado. Well, that too. Gosh, we get it. Get it. Colorado's getting it this time this week. Yeah, it was about time, right? every Every other state has caught it at this point. um Interesting. i would have ah do you do When you have hiked, is there like a do you ah take any time to think through like what you need for the hike, or are you just going out there in jean shorts and flip-flops?
00:12:14
Speaker
Uh, if it's like the, the hikes I'll do on my, on my own, yeah, they're always going to be short and stuff. I don't, I don't know. I probably don't go in as prepared as I should, but, um, if we do, if we do anything that's like longer overnight, um, Elise is really good about making sure we have all our, all the stuff that we need. I'm sure I would die in the woods if I, on my own. So like if you got like bit by ah as a snake in the Massachusetts woods, Elise could probably get you out of it, but you're dead by yourself. Yeah. Yep, that sounds right. It's a garden snake, so it's non-venomous. Oh. Yeah, but the fear would set it. yeah i know done this What do you think happened to this guy? His eyes were wide open. there Look at the panic in his eyes, his dead eyes.
00:13:06
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And that snake curled up with him. It actually looks like it's kind of snuggling with him, but he does not want to use a good shape. Tried to provide him some body warmth, but a little snake couldn't normally do so much. at Steve, do you think ah like if need be, you're you're say you're camping with the family and you got to start a fire. Can can you start a fire? um If I have, i i think I want to think so. Yeah. But i i I don't think I would ever trust. I would bring whatever tricks I could as far as like those most starters. Uh, just to get it going. But I think so. I mean, I, I did one, uh, outside, but, uh, if like we're rubbing sticks together, that's no thanks. Uh, yeah, you're not like good at making like kindling or whatever. I don't think it just seems silly to, it's like one of those things where you'd want to do it just to do it. Like there's no need to, you'd bring, you'd bring like the starter parts of it, like the kindling and you, you, you build it.
00:13:58
Speaker
Uh, you know how you stack and I could do that. Like I did that for their father's day thing. I brought some, I did it with wood in a fire. Yeah. Like when you're looking at like the stuff to bring in your backpack and you're like, you look at the gum and then you look at the matches and you look at the gum and you look at the mat. Yeah. You know, I'm going to bring the, I'm going to bring the gum. Just forget the magic. Like, yeah, there's no reason to be in a situation where you got to try to start a fire on your own. That's true. They they sell like these little these little tubes of like ah metal filings that kind of just like burst into flame when you kind of use a match on them. I think that's like the the go to like start a fire when you're. Oh, I usually pack a old stained rags. Nice. Nice.
00:14:40
Speaker
Very nice. Oil filter from your shop, your your auto shop. It's got big piles of them. Yeah. could if you If you ball them up and you put them in the corner, they just burst and freeze. Oh my gosh. well Yeah, we got things to do. Does it does this feel like this is like, you said ah Betty is going to become a, ah what are they called? a Group lead? Someone? Park ranger? park but Betty's becoming a park ranger. Oh my god. She's given up on finance. Now she's in law enforcement. troop leader True leader. Yeah. yeah do Are you going to do the same for these Cub Scouts or no way? I don't think so. No, there it seems to be a... It's not. You just don't have it in you? Yeah. For the time involved, I'd hate to disappoint Cavendish because it is a bit more involved. I definitely want to be involved. ah
00:15:34
Speaker
And there's like volunteer stuff. So I think I'd start a smaller just like be an involved parent, but without having to take on the the responsibility of other kids to what threw me off also that Betty was talking about is, you know, she's gonna start with with you. in a group of girls, like a small troop, you start that on, but at a certain point, you you move on from ah a brownie to a daisy or whatever it is, like you go to the next year, but- What? like what are these What are these steps? like You get your badge and then you like you move on, it's mostly with age, so you go on to the next you know group and then the activities are different and more involved, your skill sets, like you just, the same thing with boys get with the-
00:16:10
Speaker
Cub Scout to Weeblow and Boy Scout, just the different levels. But what I didn't really think about, and so we're going to have to find out, is that you agree to start with your daughter and almost imagine you want to keep them going with her. But no, that's not the case. You start the troop until, and you stay with the troop. Oh, so Betty's just working with just random kids. Yeah, at a certain point. And we didn't really think about that point. And I'm sure most parents have the same situation where it's like, you just, all right, girls, we're dissolving the troop, you know? And you just move on to the next one. Cause it sounds like, um, that, that is like something we'd have to do. Yeah. She would be, end up going with strangers, but a lot of the events are at the same time. So, you know, you'd still, she'd still be going, she would go on to like the next group. So now, but it's, it's cool.

Girl Scouts Leadership

00:16:53
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I, I, I did, um, cub scouts, I did like up.
00:16:56
Speaker
to like two steps basically to we blow. I didn't go much further. I never, I never did any of the outdoor camping scenarios. Everything was more like, it almost felt like an after school or like a Saturday crafts type of a group. Like we never really did any fishing or outdoor camp or overnight camping when I was in the, in the, you know, the green wilderness of, ah of Queens. Was that, they didn't take you out to like Long Island or something? It was just Queens? Uh, you know, my cousin kept on doing, we, I started with two of my cousins and we, and, uh, my, my cousin, Johnny, who ended up kept on going. He, he lived, uh, he had friends in Long Island. They ended up going to Long Island for those, for those, uh, overnight. So he was able to make it to them. I didn't go long enough to find out.
00:17:37
Speaker
ah Yeah, no, I should be. um it's I'm excited for them as long as they're into it, like they're very so far, they're not completely sold on. But I'm hoping that it just, you know, it's more experiences. I think that's a lot of what it is. You know, you want to live vicariously through your kids and just let them have experience that you didn't have. Come on, you know, you want to race cars, right?
00:18:01
Speaker
Uh, right. Yeah. So long as they're into it. Uh, that's pretty, that's pretty good. Keep us, uh, keep us posted on the where you, where you end up. Wait, is, uh, wasn't, uh, doing something like he was doing martial arts or some other thing that he was having levels to it, right? He did. Um, no, he was doing, uh, right now he's, he was doing swimming before that had like badges and a few years. You go through like. You're like, it's like guppy dolphin shark. You don't you don't have to tell me I was I was in swimming. I got it. Yeah, eventually I was on a ah team called the aqua darts. We were a bunch of self acclaimed badasses. Wow. Aqua darts like you're so quick in in the water. You you shoot like a dart. Is that.
00:18:50
Speaker
What's one of the one of my I was just talking to Christie about this too, because I was telling her about your like douche douche chills terminology. and And she doesn't she doesn't list still doesn't listen to the show. So it's not heard it. But What am I? ah Again, one of those memories that I should not still have because it's so long ago, but I still think about and it still ah eats away at me as though like, I don't know, it's just still devastating is so like, I'm on this team of aquedarts with a bunch of kids.
00:19:21
Speaker
from ah from Davis that go to like different schools. And I think this is like maybe fourth grade, four for fifth grade, something like that. And friends with a bunch of those kids. And one of those kids in particular, very good friends with, and we talk a lot about comics. Like that's like a big thing, getting ready to talk about comics, whatever. ah Next school year, I think we go from or like I go from like the elementary public school to like, what's called like the intermediate public school. And so like different kids from different schools kind of combined into the one school and all of a sudden, I'm going to school with that kid that I talked about.
00:19:58
Speaker
comics with at the aqua darts and ah Sitting sitting at a table at lunchtime with a bunch of kids I don't know any of these kids But I know that kid and I just kind of like across the table say something about like hey Did you read the most recent issue of spider-man or whatever? It's so crazy such and such happened and dude, I mean again, this was like fifth or sixth grade This is a long time ago dude looks at me and says I don't know you I crush I just just never talked to him again. Or maybe he never talked to me again, like an awkward or anything. It was just the most devastating. Yeah, just devastating. It just lives. There's just lives every anytime I accomplish anything. is It's just like, yeah, you did do that. But also.
00:20:43
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Oh my God. But yeah, all that to say, yes, I did do both myself and Michelle. Sorry I brought it up. Geez. I was gonna ask if you still stay in touch with the old crew, but maybe it sounds like no. They don't know me, apparently. No, yeah. It was pretty devastating. But yeah, just stick with it. It's good.
00:21:08
Speaker
Valuable life skills. oh man Yeah, that's, uh, that's rough. These, uh, these kids, that's like, I always wonder about that. Just like, uh, yeah, you go to the summer experiences and then it like, it's exactly as you're describing. It's like, you're not in school with those kids. And I always wonder about that. Like, um, if they feel run into it, not exactly that situation, but somewhat similar. because they Well, it was, it was the nineties. I think the, you know, those, those kids are hopefully kids are nicer now, I would have said, but maybe not. I don't know.
00:21:40
Speaker
you know, it's funny that is the reverse of what you're describing. So you'll have, he's the bully in the situation. No, no, no. Well, no, no, it's like, he is so, so shy that, um, kids, I'll see, I'll pick them up from school or from the camping thing or whatever, uh, or like his day camp or something. And a bunch of kids that I don't recognize or he doesn't talk about like girls or, you know, boys, whatever. see yeah by ah He just like, go right past him. No eye contact. He just like goes through it, but it's not for no, no, no, no, no, no. He doesn't like look at him and say like, I don't know you, but he, he just like, there's not no acknowledgement and it's not from being mean. He just is like so, so, so shy. Like he's, he just kind of like, you know, clams up. But, uh, so I'm sure they don't feel, uh, you know, any way about it. I don't think they're crushed by him ignoring it. Cause I think they see, they know that he's very, very shy. He's not doing it to be me, but, uh, I'll, but then I'll embarrass him and just say like,
00:22:33
Speaker
And he's saying hi, and then I'm i'm like taking his hands and waving it for him. And I'm like, gee. So he does have a background from the moment. Yeah. So the big that's the big reveal. the Dad was the bully the whole time. Oh my gosh. i Yeah, I don't think we need to see that movie in theaters. that's months yeah That twist is not great. um That's ah interesting. So you're trying to do all these like various activities, hoping that Yeah, kind of break through some of that.

Youth Soccer Practices

00:23:04
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Yeah, I'd say so. Like he he likes, um we're gonna do, they were doing, so he was doing soccer last year and over the summer he's gonna, we're gonna roll them in. It's like, these things are late.
00:23:14
Speaker
It's like going to be weekday, 7pm to 8pm finishing. Holy moly. Yeah. You know, it's light out and everything. So I guess that's the reason, but I got to work, but he's got to work. So she's going to take the brunt of it. Well, for at least for the weekdays, then any weekends usually is when I would be, uh, you know, I'll take. So that was good. in um ah And, uh, in, in Germany, I guess this is like true of like most European countries, they like. The yeah European kids that we played against, they were well, I mean, European kids are just so much better at at soccer. And like one of the ways that you kind of realize it, like when you you go there and you kind of like see how they interact with it is like the amount of time they practice is crazy. but So like the American kids, they kind of like they'll have practice like right after school or something because they play for their school team.
00:24:05
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And that's true of the German kids as well. But then when practice is done at like five or five thirty or six, whatever, they then go to like the club league, which is like the town or wherever they live in. And then they practice with them from like six thirty to nine o'clock at night. And they're doing that every day of the week. Like it's just, yeah, hard to compete with that level of like dedication. So I guess what I'm getting at is like, if you want, you know, play for one of these national teams. That is the goal. Gotta make some sacrifices. I don't even think you could, you'd have to, you know, at least the kids that I'm seeing around, that I don't know if you have, ah
00:24:44
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that level of interest in anyone. You'd be hard pressed to to gather a a dozen kids that have that same level of ah interest that i that I can't find them. i't it's here is there like um but I I was going to say, actually just over the weekend, I heard about, ah I guess this ah for college sports, some regulations have changed in the last two years where Now students are allowed to get paid for certain account, like specialized funding sources from the school. There's kids getting signed to play football and they get a $700,000 check to go to this. o
00:25:19
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to go to this college to play football, which I mean, the argument has always been that like the colleges makes such an absurd amount of money off of these kids. Like it's ridiculous that the college's argument is like, well, they get a

College Sports Sponsorships

00:25:31
Speaker
free education. It's like your whatever twenty thousand dollar a year tuition. That's still well below like what minimum wage will get them. Like it's just not it doesn't makes it like. But so, yeah, now they're allowed. They get paid in a variety of different ways. And most importantly, they can get sponsorships. So like um What's her face from the, that just joined the WNBA? I think she was, she was making like three or 4 million a year in sponsorships while in college. Yeah, that's insane. So yeah, Steve, if you want to get sponsored and play on national teams, you gotta send them to the right school. try Get that elementary school sponsorships going.
00:26:12
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Why didn't we? I think we had talked about like, didn't getting him into the like, eSports stuff, right? That's right. I'm sure it's out there. Yeah. Super Smash Brothers scholarship. I mean, I just I would assume at this point, there is like, the same as there's these like, you know, soccer or whatever, Pee Wee league type stuff, I would assume there's something like that for like, like, like gaming, right? Like, we're parents have their kids meet up to like play video games in some sort of competitive manner? Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, they have all those like, what's it called? I think even the place that's local to me, similar to that Brooklyn place that we- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a place called Dead Gaming, like right by the waterfront by where, and they have a bunch of like league stuff. It's like they have things for kids, it looks like, also. But honestly, I'm trying to like, he does love that stuff. And doing nothing else, he would gravitate towards that anyway.

Children's Gaming and eSports

00:27:06
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So just, I'm trying to like spread out his interest as much as I can control it. Cause yeah, he, he would, gra he would love that. He would just, Oh, like not just smash brothers, but like other games as well. I think so. Yeah. He hasn't done, he doesn't, he knows about, um, Fortnite, but he hasn't played it oh not now. Uh, then besides this, like, uh, he plays a little, he plays a lot of, uh, Roblox, uh, look at his cousins. That's, um, yeah, he doesn't know about any of the other stuff he's never played. or seen any of the shooting first person games. He hasn't played any of that stuff. So it's very limited, but you you know you just he he loves it so much. Just the little bit he's got, the Smash Bros, he loves it. Is the shooting stuff, is it just like the level of violence in those games? um I guess so. It's not like I intentionally have shielded it. He he really hasn't ah brought it up. And none of his, I don't think any of his classmates are into it or talk about it. So you know i mean um you know as he gets older, kind of more But like, if he wanted to play Resident Evil right now, I don't think so he's he's pretty, uh, I think at some point, like I, uh, even like, um, no, he wouldn't, he wouldn't like it, but like, even like, uh, like Luigi's mansion is a, uh, you know, a, a very small, it's like nowhere near that, um, you know, the, the shoot them up first person games or anything like that at all. But he is like not interested in it. Even that is like, that's a little scary for him. I can't imagine, you know, what do you think about with blowing people up and any of that? So.
00:28:36
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Cause I wanted to like do something like that. I wanted to like buy that so we could play through a game and just share that experience. But, um, I mean, he kind of likes what he likes. right Doug, if you somehow got your hands on a child, uh, how old would, would they have to be it for you to let them play resident evil? I'm going to probably cut out your initial phrase. you priise
00:28:57
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I'm saying it, you know, you know, you got, it you got a kid, you adopt a kid. Yeah. I don't know how to prescribe anything on you. That's fair. That's, I appreciate that. Um, well, I, I mean, I, I try to think back to like how old I was. I think I, Resident Evil came out in 96, I think. So I was fifth grade. I don't know. I was probably playing stuff that was scarier or more, uh, violent, let's say, than I should have. Uh, been, but I would also say that it didn't necessarily affect me too much. Like I don't find scary stuff that scary. I wonder if it is because I saw some of it probably early on, but for sure. Yeah. But I think for like video games and movies and like anything that like tends to have like a lot of violence. I'm actually at all times when I'm like experiencing that stuff, I'm thinking about the craft that went into making it because it's not it's not real. I know it's not real. So it's like a lot of like how they do that or like what's going on here or like what type of work went in into to do this. So ah none of this is answering your question. Would I would that be true for like? Yeah, we can cut all the we can cut all that out yeah cut all that. out
00:30:09
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I think there is probably a reasonable age that's older than 11. But it probably kind of depends on the kid to like to what Steve is saying like, ah yeah, if your if your kid is showing signs that a you know, a game with ah a dude with a vacuum cleaner is is too scary, then yeah, maybe hold off a little bit. But I honestly it's it's not even that like I probably would be I would show him I'd be okay with him even at an earlier age earlier. This is probably the same age that Doug was talking about. It's like that. What I don't like is the all the nudity. No, no, no, it's like the the ah other other players and like the Oh, yeah, sure. The social component of it. Because that could be very negative. and he He wouldn't do well with any of that
00:30:55
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You know, what's funny is, ah as a, ah you know, as a middle aged man, I feel the exact same way about the kids, meaning that, like, when I'm being tormented in like an online game, it's never by like a 40 year old, it's always by like some 12 year old that's saying the most horrific things to me. Yeah. Like, why are you so mean? Why are you like this? So yeah, that's at least that's been my experience. I assume there are terrible adults. There's also, but I'm also, uh, realistic about it. I think just cause I know he likes games and he's going to be exposed to that anyway. So you can only shield or so, but I I'm trying to, but yeah, that's going to be out there. Like he will be exposed to that. It's unfortunate. Cause it's like, you can't stop everybody. We'll see. I'm actually, I'm actually riding pretty high. Cause I, we just read before this, I was playing him in smash bros and I used kazoo. Yeah.
00:31:42
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against his Sonic as player. Oh man, I was wrecking him. He beat me by like a little bit. And he was surprised. He was surprised he's like playing playing around for a little bit. You're gonna cry? You don't have to cry. You can cry if you want. but Well, I guess the point, because like he he was ah he told me he wanted to play like on Sunday. And then I said, I only have an hour that I'm gonna be talking to my friends. And then he was taking a while. So I was on the training mode. And I was like learning all these moves he never saw me do. Oh man, I was wrecking him. That's good. Uh, do you, uh, so he doesn't, I mean, he doesn't know that you were doing the training mode. No, well he, cause he doesn't, he doesn't need it. He, no, he didn't see that I was doing the training mode. I think you would have been suspicious. I, I quickly exited out of all that first started just to get him in, but I mean, you know, he still beat me handily at the end, but yeah, yeah it's, uh, all right. but Buried the lead there a bit, I guess. Uh, one of these days though, I'll get him. Uh, that's, that's pretty, pretty good. I think we've talked about that before though. You've kind of like, except at least within smash brothers, you've accepted the fact that he's just, he's just better. Well, he, he puts so much hour, not necessarily, I mean, he does train, but just because he, he was playing, he'll play a bunch of stuff and he'll like, uh, yeah, he puts way more, he probably plays German soccer player hours into, into just like the, um, the one player mode and, uh, just different stuff. So yeah, he's like.
00:33:01
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yeah really He hasn't gotten tired of being so much better than everyone else in the house. Well, he was like saying, uh, no, like he, he, he will like put the controller in like, uh, he's he, he's like, well, he's like, what's the big deal? He just wants to like, just, you know, let's just hang out. We're just talking. We're just talking. Like he'll bring it in. Uh, it's so funny cause it's the diametrically opposed to his personality. So we'll go to a birthday party or like his cousin's thing and he'll bring the smack, uh, the, the console. with the connection and he he won't say it outright to one of the friends, but he'll like, he'll take the extra control and just like kind of nudge it over their way. And he'll like, he'll like look at me to make me to try to, uh, get, you know, negotiate a ah game going. But, and then this happened. So this happened a couple of times in the one time where it became the big game. It was at his, uh, friends of his his house and like there were other kids he never met. And he was, I was proud of him because he, he was like in his element and he, he was not being like nasty about it, but he was like by far better than everybody. And he,
00:33:59
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So they'd have many rounds and he was like, number one, many times. I think there was another kid that was about as good as, and, uh, you know, they, he but he wasn't, wasn't being a bully about it. He wasn't doing anything else, but you know, he was really, really good. He was noticeable. that much easily but I guess I'm still talking myself into getting this, uh, getting into those E game scholarship. Have have you shown, uh, yeah, I mean. Oh, he's an option. Have you shown him the The Wizard? The Wizard. It was like a 1989 movie, something like that. It was like where they went to the Nintendo Championship, World Championship. Oh, man. You know, I don't even think I've seen that. Maybe I maybe I have. So that sounds really wow you guys should watch it together, then it is not. It's not a great movie. It's actually pretty bad. But it's kind of fun from like one from a nostalgia perspective to kind of seeing the origins of like kids competing in video games. Oh, I got you. OK.