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Episode 59: Wrestlemania 1
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Come hangout with the boys as they discuss the important issues such as Does Honky Tonk Man still love his mutton chops, is Mean Gene a confidant singer? & Garrett's continued heelish behavior. Also, the boys watch Wrestlemania 1 for the first time!
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Transcript
Introduction & The Hunt for 'Marine 6'
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined, a Pro Wrestling Hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender, and with me, as always, a man who I can only assume still has not seen Marine 6, Derek Halpin. I tried really hard over this past weekend. I searched multiple red boxes and it's just not out there. Like, I'm gonna have to go the extra mile to make this happen, I think.
00:00:27
Speaker
I think this is going to end with us having to pay slightly more than we want to to see Marine 6, which is really anything over $1.50. Which, it's ridiculous because we're going to have to pay more than we want. We're going to have to put in the extra effort. And I haven't seen any of the other marine movies. Not a one. Not even a clip.
WWE Memories: John Cena's Autograph
00:00:48
Speaker
I have seen Marine One, which I purchased. Did you see it in theaters? I didn't, no. I purchased it at a Monday Night Raw in college at the Mark of the Quad Cities, and it was signed by John Cena, and it only cost $20. So it was a John Cena autograph for 20 bucks. That's basically what they were trying to sell me, and it worked. And that was at a point when I wasn't even watching wrestling. Well, you were watching it because you were there.
00:01:15
Speaker
Well, I was, I got invited. That was like definitely in the middle of me not watching. Somebody invited me. I went, I thought, I definitely want John Cena's autograph, right? Two questions. Yeah. Do you still have the autograph? And two, did you have fun at the show?
00:01:32
Speaker
The literally the only thing I remember about that show, I remember how empty it was. I remember it was only 100 level. No one was in the upper tiers. And there were a lot of empty seats around me and the dark match was John Cena versus great Kali. Literally the only thing I remember from the whole show. Wow. And do you have the autograph? I do still have the autograph. Marine one.
00:01:58
Speaker
I don't, I mean, Miz didn't have that big of shoes to follow. We didn't have the fun John Cena that we have and love now.
Film References: 'The Marine' & Terminator 2
00:02:05
Speaker
We had a movie where Robert Patrick from Terminator 2 is the villain, and they never let you forget that he was in Terminator 2. That's kinda cool. Like there's a part in it when, I'm trying to remember, like they actually- Does he do the T-1000 run? I don't know if he does the run, but at one point, I believe he uses the sentence, what do I look like I made a liquid metal?
00:02:29
Speaker
And then I believe they say fucking lame and at some point he says to John Cena What do you think you are some kind of terminator or something? And you know at some point Derek says to Garrett hit our goddamn music
Podcast Segue Strategies
00:03:16
Speaker
Did you like that segue? That was a good segue. Basically, that's the perfect segue because just one of us has to say it. Yeah. When one of us feels the intro has gone too long is when the other says it. It's either really witty or very abrupt.
00:03:32
Speaker
Either way, it gets our music in there. Hey, we're back with another episode.
00:04:00
Speaker
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Engagement & Social Media Shoutouts
00:04:08
Speaker
lot. Also, it really sorry, if you don't mind me while we're still on this real quick, I was just gonna say it's really crazy how often you'll run into pro wrestling and everything. Over the weekend, I was watching the Blues Brothers when they go to check into Elwood's room, you know, his shitty little room, the guy working the desk is watching pro wrestling. And I was trying my hardest to figure out what
00:04:30
Speaker
match he was actually watching I know in the movie Creepshow who's the famous horror author Stephen King his characters watching pro wrestling of course he's playing like a hillbilly if you haven't seen that one check it out Garrett I was gonna also point out after you give us the five stars after you leave us the review you should also
00:04:53
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00:05:03
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Could The Rock be a Hall of Fame Legend?
00:05:11
Speaker
Maybe you can recommend something to us in private or maybe you had a crazy thing happen to you at a wrestling show that you think your story needs to be told to the world. And by the world, I mean the tens and tens and tens of listeners.
00:05:25
Speaker
The dozens and dozens. This goes out to our dozens and dozens. The Rock and Sock connection. Do you think that should ever go into the Hall of Fame?
00:05:41
Speaker
Yes. Without hesitation. No, I don't need that. There is no hesitation. It's the Rock. If it's a way for them to get the Rock to the Hall of Fame and get more asses and seats, he is going to go in the Hall of Fame as a tag team. So the Rock's going to go in with Nation of Domination. He's going to go in with the Rock and Sock connection. He's going to go in by himself.
00:06:03
Speaker
What else? If they make a deal out of somebody being a two time Hall of Famer, they are gonna find a way to get the rock in there at least a dozen times. I mean, he can go in as a celebrity too, right? Oh my God, he should go, he should have, you know what, induct him all at the same time and just have- Just make the entire Hall of Fame him. You know what, if you wanna find a way to beat a new Japan show at Madison Square Garden, that's how you do it. Just have a rock party at a different arena.
00:06:33
Speaker
Would you go to that? Just the rock like if we just called it like all hail the rock or whatever and you just go and everybody sucks his dick for a little bit about how cool it is. It's like an hour and a half to two hours of him playing guitar and then giving another speech and then bringing a friend up on stage and then playing another song and then maybe doing some Shakespeare like acting a little bit doing some Hamlet
00:06:55
Speaker
And then, you know, another speech and then, you know, he gets in his catch phrases because that's what everyone wants to hear one more time. And then he, you know, he goes into the Hall of Fame like seven times in one night.
The Rock's Oscar Potential?
00:07:07
Speaker
Speaking of, you know, him doing Shakespeare, the Oscars were just this weekend and I truly believe that we will witness The Rock be the first pro wrestler to win an Academy Award at some point.
00:07:18
Speaker
Do you think so? I think I think he is going to surprise us and either be in a period piece or who knows maybe 10 years from now 15 years from now his career isn't doing as well and Quentin Tarantino throws him in a movie to rejuvenate his career and he'll get an Oscar there. I really hope he does but I thought Rampage was his best chance and he kind of missed on it. You think Rampage was the best shot? I'm kidding I did see like 15 minutes of Rampage a couple weeks ago.
00:07:45
Speaker
It's really not that bad, Derek. It takes place in Chicago. We've talked about this before. But, while we're on the subject of people going into the Hall of Fame, Garrett, did you see who's going to the Hall of Fame today?
Honky Tonk Man's Comedy Career
00:07:56
Speaker
Honky Tonk, man! Yeah! Who also does stand-up comedy around the country? I believe he's performed at the comedy club here twice since I've lived in Nashville. Those mutton chops are pretty epic.
00:08:10
Speaker
Is having those mutton chops for your entire life a punishment? Or do you think he's just, he's into him? Well, my question is, you know, you see wrestlers down the line, you know, as they age, certain aspects of like, like, for instance, you don't think about Shawn Michaels, like him being bald was weird. Do you think somebody like Sasha Banks for the rest of her life has to have that purple hair?
00:08:37
Speaker
No, I think she'll be super happy to get rid of it. Like, how are they gonna transition her out of that? I mean, I know she didn't always have it, but... Well, do like an impact and have Dark Sasha. Have her get possessed by a demon and let her hair change.
00:08:51
Speaker
Yeah. And they had they had a chance to do that, too. It's fucked up when we think back within the last year, they were strongly teasing Bailey and Sasha finally going at it. And then they kind of gave up on that for somewhere. I think that was probably the day they decided they were going to do the women's tag titles. And then they were like, OK, we won't have you guys hate each other. Then you're a tag team now.
00:09:16
Speaker
And, you know, no more purple hair when Sasha turns heel. I like that idea. Honky Tonk man's going to the Hall of Fame. You mentioned Brett Michaels a second ago and that led me on a Google search as I stand here. Did I say Brett Michaels? No, I'm sorry, Shawn Michaels. Oh, Brett Michaels is the lead singer of Poison, right? Correct. Which all the seasons of Rock-A-Lover on Amazon Prime, so hop on there. But you said Shawn Michaels and that made me realize I had never seen his Playgirl.
00:09:45
Speaker
Spread that's I'm glad that you looked at it as a thing like I haven't seen it yet I need to get on that that's up there with the marine sex right now Yeah, I thought assuming you looked at it well I'm looking at it right now, but I was under the impression that Shawn Michaels was was nude in this magazine and
00:10:08
Speaker
Are you disappointed? Well, I'm just seeing him with a belt over his dick. I thought we were going to see Shawn Michaels hang some brain. I thought like he was, you know, I thought he was really truly a brave man and going out there showing his penis. I'll be honest with you. I've never seen like I guess I guess I have seen some pictures from that being, you know, pushed around on social media. But I thought I thought like you, he for sure would have been naked.
00:10:33
Speaker
And he's not. He's just wearing, is it the actual WWF championship around his waist? I believe so. And you don't even see his ass on here. What is this? And then unless if you scroll down a couple, then you see several Photoshop pictures of him performing fellatio on someone. Google images, baby.
00:10:54
Speaker
Somebody, you know what? I appreciate the internet. There's a beautiful group of weirdos out there willing to waste time on doing something that no one asked for. Would you look at a honky tonk man play girl spread? Yeah. There's the third mutton chop. That's a good joke. Hey.
00:11:22
Speaker
Can I ask you a question? Yeah, I mean, I was gonna say something, but go ahead. Oh, no, no, please. I'm sorry. I just keep interrupting you. No, no, no. As I'm literally watching a man fillet another man on my... Let me move this to the background. Fillet. Yeah. So over the weekend, I posted an Instagram post showing how many missed texts I had.
00:11:45
Speaker
At the time, I had 196 missed texts. What is it now? It's actually 118. I brought it down a little bit. You've been working on it. I'm trying.
Digital Communication Habits
00:11:57
Speaker
What's funny is you probably just ended entire relationships to get that number down. You probably had backed up texts from people you haven't spoken to in years, and you were just like, rather than go through and look at these, I'll just swipe and delete the entire conversation.
00:12:12
Speaker
Well, I need to know, because Jeffy says that that post made me a heel. And I need to ask you, is that heelish behavior?
00:12:24
Speaker
Um, I see, I think it's different when it's texts. Like to me, if it's a text, yeah, you're a dick. Sometimes my emails get backed up and you'll see the little red circle down there showing that you have got like 300 or 400. I know your email is really bad too, but you can't, I mean, that's, that's an absurd number of text messages to just not like even look at, let alone respond. I don't know. I don't, you ever just want to be unreachable.
00:12:55
Speaker
Like, don't you hate it that everyone can talk to you at all times and they know when you send that, that like, you definitely just didn't respond? Yeah, no, I totally get it, but, you know, that's why I keep a very tight-knit circle of people that I exchange messages with. You are in my circle.
00:13:15
Speaker
Thank you. And to follow up with Jeffy's astute observation that you are a heel, abso-fucking-lutely, do you know how many times I have been in bed at like 10.30 at night? You know, and I've been there for, you know, a couple hours and I'm getting ready for work. Three in the morning, I gotta get up. And all of a sudden I hear v-v-v-v-v.
00:13:39
Speaker
and it's you watching some New Japan shit at 1030 and you are coming in your pants over something that's going on and you reach out to me and you know what I look at your texts I look and see what you send and then I roll back over and go to bed but I look at them yeah I don't care if you respond I you know I just want you to know how excited I was in that moment
00:14:05
Speaker
But all I'm saying, Derek, is that Ron Swanson on Parks and Rec, no one thinks he's an asshole and he doesn't want to be unreachable. There's no way if you're sending him a text, he's getting back. I can't understand not wanting to be accessed at all hours of the day. I get it. I think you took it too far. You think I let it get out of hand? I think so. Well, I just made the post so everybody would know.
00:14:30
Speaker
You're not alone. I didn't want everybody to, you know, I'm not going out of my way to wrong one person in particular. I just didn't want to touch my phone for the last couple of weeks. I think in general, you're a pretty good person, but that text, that text addiction, you know, or not answering text addiction, it's gotten a little out of control. You might want to work on that. All I heard you say is that I'm a good person. What else were you saying?
00:14:57
Speaker
true Eric Cartman heel behavior. That was the only part that you heard. Got what I wanted out of that. I'm done.
Reflecting on WrestleMania 1
00:15:06
Speaker
We did something special for this week's episode, didn't we? We watched something that we probably should have watched a long fucking time ago. And now we get to, for the sake of the podcast, give out our thoughts, our emotions on watching WrestleMania number one.
00:15:28
Speaker
Garrett didn't even have number one after it. It's just WrestleMania. No theme song, nothing special, no bells and whistles. And I had always heard that this is looked back on as not a great show. Is that correct? I have never heard that.
00:15:46
Speaker
What social media do you, you've said this before, you have a very negative wrestling circle around you, I guess. My wrestling circle is like our listeners and you. And then I guess just a bunch of random people that I've followed that have very negative views on things. But I had always heard that the first couple of Wrestle manias weren't as great as later ones that like one isn't considered one of the best.
00:16:13
Speaker
I mean, I'm not gonna say that it's like anything else. It's like they mastered their art as they went on. I put out a post earlier today on my Twitter saying, man, look at how far the graphics have come for this show when I took a picture of the opening text that says WrestleMania Madison Square Garden and you're thinking now they fuckin' produce holograms.
00:16:39
Speaker
With Rottweilers when Roman Reigns comes out like it's it's it's crazy to see how far it's come Brock Lesnar's dick arrow is a hologram. It's different I But like I said a minute ago, this was something we probably should have checked out a long time ago I had only ever seen the main event say I was like right after I got the network and actually I had seen the Andre match before as well and
00:17:03
Speaker
Well, that was maybe my favorite match of the night. But I will say overall, I had such a good time watching this show. It is two hours and 15 minutes long. So, you know, doesn't take you a whole lot longer than watching a regular episode of SmackDown. Easy to go down.
00:17:22
Speaker
And I just overall had a great fucking time with every aspect of the show commentators The I don't even know what you call them just like maybe a ring announcer. What do you call the British guy? Lord Alfred Hayes the guys talk about introduce each man. First of all, I loved
00:17:40
Speaker
Alfred Hayes, so much. He looked like a deer in the headlights. He'd be talking to the camera telling you what match was up next, but his eyes would constantly be looking at other things around him, like some of the workers would come by him and, you know,
00:17:55
Speaker
It was just I I texted you when I saw this and I said they need to bring this back Like they need to have somebody manually and I say that because you're used to when a match is coming up They throw up a graphic that shows you everyone involved and it says up next and you go to commercial break and you come back
00:18:12
Speaker
I want somebody to do that now and I nominated Aiden English for that job since he's already getting working on 205 Live. Give me somebody awkwardly explaining to me who's gonna be wrestling and what's at stake. I vote Mario Lopez from Saved by the Bell. Wait, we gotta go back to the beginning. The thing that, we didn't necessarily know what retro thing we were gonna be doing for the show this week and the thing that sold me on this is you
00:18:42
Speaker
just kind of unprompted, dove right into this and started watching WrestleMania 1 and texting me about it, which again, thank you. And you said this show starts with Mean Jean Okerlund singing the National Anthem.
00:18:55
Speaker
And that was the moment where I was like, oh, I'm definitely watching that. I was really ready for, cause you always see that clip of Aretha Franklin singing it. And I was like, oh, that has to be one, right? And I was like, well, if it's not her, then I don't know, what are we gonna be like Ray Charles or somebody cool? And then they say Mean Jean. No, and this is what's funny about it. You start with reasonable expectations. Like if this is your first time watching the show, you're like, oh, I guess it makes sense. Like Mean Jean really can't sing.
00:19:24
Speaker
He's not like the worst thing you've ever heard but you can tell I mean this is not his forte. I was gonna say like he can't sing but he can't not sing like it's a good it's a good place where you can tell he wouldn't be embarrassed to sing karaoke and he wouldn't need to be. But to me that's almost what makes it the most awkward because at least if it was somebody fucking terrible like if it was Vicki Guerrero.
00:19:48
Speaker
that would almost be an act unto itself. Like like when Rosie, when not Rosie O'Donnell, when Roseanne Barr, when she sang the national anthem at a baseball game and it was horrendous and she got booed. But it's like, and it wasn't a great, they just fucking, they threw Mean Jean out there like mean.
00:20:06
Speaker
Get out there and do your thing. And he asks the crowd to join in with him and they do. The crowd gets into it from the start of the show. Now here's what makes it hilarious. They have Mean Gene do the national anthem. They have Cindy Lauper, Liberace, Muhammad Ali, and fucking a host of other celebrities in the back. One of which actually does sing.
00:20:34
Speaker
They picked Mean Jean to do the anthem. Damn, you really jumped out there and threw away a lot of the surprises from the end, which I had totally forgot that Liberace was at the first WrestleMania. And so I actually, when I was in Burbank, lived next to Liberace's grave. I was next to a cemetery that a lot of famous people were buried at.
00:20:59
Speaker
So that really hit about that being a claim to fame. That hit close to home for me. Actually, I would go to that cemetery every Christmas. My wife and I would go there to pay our respects to Ronnie James Dio and I would bend down and whisper a secret into Dio's grave that I'd never told anyone every year. So Dio has my secrets if you're looking for him. What did you give Liberace? I waved at him when I walked by. I mean, if I had what?
00:21:27
Speaker
If I had known WrestleMania 1 was a thing, I would have sat down, said a prayer, asked some questions. Would it be inappropriate for you to stand next to his grave and do the rocket kicks that he did at WrestleMania 1? Would somebody come in by, look over and see that, and think you're mocking the dead?
00:21:46
Speaker
Okay, so let's get to the point where Liberace comes out, because let me tell you, it's a fucking surprise. That's right before the main event, so that's later on in the show, but yeah, get to it. So we get Finkle out there. Howard Finkle. Howard fucking Finkle. Howard fucking Finkle comes out there and announces he is introducing the man who's gonna replace him for the rest of the night, which is, what was his, what's his... Baseball manager. Billy Williams or something like that? Billy Martin. Billy Martin.
00:22:16
Speaker
Billy Martin comes out and says, okay and next I think he's getting ready to introduce the match No, he brings out fucking Liberace and about five Radio City Rockettes who dance for like two and a half minutes They're just sitting there like, you know doing their high kicks and the crowd Derek the crowd is loving it The crowd is excited for Liberace at WrestleMania one
00:22:39
Speaker
It was a different time. Like now people are like, I have to watch fucking Flo Rida? No. WrestleMania one, they all sat in their seat and watched Liberace dance for two and a half minutes and we can't sit through a Flo Rida song. We are fucking spoiled assholes. We are. And they, I think they introduced him as one of the greatest entertainers in the whole world.
00:23:01
Speaker
After that two and a half minutes, I couldn't disagree. They high kicked a full circle around and then they stopped and then he looked like, am I supposed to keep kicking? Then they started kicking again. The Rockette on the end is like, wait, we're still kicking, trying to get on. And he's leading the kicks and the Rockettes aren't ready for how quick he's going. I think it's normally a slower kick. That was the vibe I was getting. Somewhere Kevin Dunn, Kevin Dunn was in the truck freaking out that they didn't get that shot the way he wanted.
00:23:30
Speaker
Like, make them do more kicks. Have them do the Liberace kicks a little bit more. And then Liberace, he isn't just there. He's there to ring the bell, Derek.
00:23:41
Speaker
He's the guest timekeeper. That's an important job. He's just sitting out ringside and I'm like, Oh my God, we're done with celebrity. This is, I mean, how are you going to top this? And they go, Oh, also we have, uh, we have Muhammad Ali here who's going to be the outside referee. Well, that was, what was funny is that they say he's going to be the referee for the match. He's the special guest referee and they wheel him out there and he waves and everyone goes nuts and he gets in the ring. And then they kind of like nonchalantly are like, all right, now get out of there.
00:24:10
Speaker
Muhammad Ali is going to be the special outside the ring referee, which is just as important as the inside the ring referee. And I was in my head thinking that's bullshit. Like I, you know, I don't think the announcers blatantly lie to me often or I'd like to think they don't. Jesse the body Ventura lied to me right then by telling you that was an important job. Oh, yeah.
00:24:34
Speaker
He fucking lied to you. Well, we got other things to talk about on the show other than the buildup to the main event, which we will get to. I like that Liberace got as much time as he should. Yeah? WrestleMania 1. I mean, there's gonna be a lot of things that we could talk about with this show that are just, they're a product of their time. The thing was lit like a house show, and I loved it.
00:24:58
Speaker
And I don't know if that's just nostalgia and I know that it doesn't, we've talked about this so many times. I like the grittiness and the focus on what's going on in the ring. And there's something, there's something cool about looking back on these old matches where it's just a single light over the ring, dimly lit. And it's, it, I dunno, to me it's a show. It's a pro wrestling show.
00:25:22
Speaker
And can you imagine if they lit MetLife Stadium like they did Madison Square Garden? That would be the first of all, you can't. It would be wild for them to do that for like just like, I don't know, one pay per view, just make it a throwback pay per view and just do the bare minimum and see how the people feel about it. But and we got to talk about this, too, because it's important. The crowd for WrestleMania was awesome.
00:25:52
Speaker
Oh, this crowd was fucking excellent. They booed the heels, they cheered the baby faces, they seemed excited for nearly everything that happened. This show opens with one of my favorite wrestlers now. His name is The Executioner and he opens up in a match against Tito Santana.
00:26:13
Speaker
Can you describe what those pre-match promos are like? They're very rushed. But what was your take on the promo before this match? The executioner was just amazing. I'm not convinced that the executioner isn't Louis Anderson. I was trying to figure out who it was. As I was looking at those eyes and that nose, I was just like, eh. I was just expecting that voice the whole time. But he really went out there and stumbled through a promo.
00:26:46
Speaker
It's just funny because you know mean jeans like you guys got 15 seconds to say whatever you want And then I'm cutting you off regardless his basically ended with wait wait wait. I didn't get it up You could tell that he as he was doing it he was not happy and what's funny is these are all fucking pre tapes Yeah, so and this is WrestleMania do it again Maybe there was no time for a second take
00:27:11
Speaker
Next match, we got King Kong Bundy versus Special Delivery Jones in a squash match that lasts... They say nine seconds. They say it's a new record that lasts nine seconds.
WrestleMania 1 Highlights
00:27:28
Speaker
But if you actually check the time on it, it's 23 seconds. They lied to you again. Let's be clear. Also, King Kong Bundy is brought to the ring with Jimmy Hart.
00:27:40
Speaker
And I will tell you, Jimmy Hart, substantially more fuckable in this day and age. What? That was your reaction? Yeah, my takeaway was, oh, he doesn't look as weird when he's young. Let's look at Jimmy Hart's Playboy spread. He's got the megaphone over his dick.
00:28:02
Speaker
I'm just saying like the guy had a more handsome face and the older he got and continuing to dress the same He seemed like a weird used car salesman. We're back then He's pretty sexy He looks better. I don't know that my reaction was definitely more fuckable Well, you know you and I watch wrestling for different things and we have different takeaways. That's the fun part of it. That's perfectly fair. Oh
00:28:26
Speaker
Third match, we got Ricky the Dragon Steamboat against Matt Bourne. Garrett, do you know who Matt Bourne goes on to be? Who does he go on to be, Derek? He goes on to be Doink the Clown. No fucking shit. You didn't know that, and now you know that. Well, if you had to guess, how would you say he died? Matt Bourne? Yes. I don't know. Drug overdose. Did he really die?
00:28:51
Speaker
He died at the age of 55 in 2013. Oh, bummer. Didn't Doink the Clown wrestle in Carbondale one time not too long before or after I visited you down there? Yeah, there were weird pro wrestling, indie wrestling things that you'd always see like a bushwhacker or somebody was part of it. And I would be confident that Doink was a part of that at one point. And I just remember that being advertised. But in hindsight, do you wish you had gone to more of those off-the-wall shows?
00:29:20
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I wish I would have gone to any of the shows they had there. I know Smackdown and ECW came through Carbondale while I was there, and I had friends that saw CM Punk eating at Buffalo Wild Wings.
00:29:33
Speaker
You know he wasn't having a beer though. We've already talked about this and called him a liar. I think we did this like 50 episodes ago. What, the Harley race thing? I just remember saying that CM Punk was a liar about being straight edge. I don't remember where that... He's a liar about a lot of things, Garrett. Well, you hear he's gonna wrestle in Chicago, right? What?
00:29:58
Speaker
He's wrestling Marty Skurl at your Comic Con. He's not wrestling him. He's thumb wrestling him. Fuck you. I thought the news had slipped under my radar. You think you would have missed CM Punk's back news? I don't know. Maybe you read it just before we came on and I missed it. And I didn't make a big deal about it until 30 minutes in and also just casually slipped it in. Yeah, that's totally what you would do.
00:30:25
Speaker
Brutus Beefcake with Johnny Valiant versus David Sammartino, the son of Bruno Sammartino. I really, really liked this match. This actually might have been my favorite of the night. Really? What about it?
00:30:39
Speaker
Well, one, David Sammartino looks like, uh, Francis from Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, but he looks like a buff version. Like a meaty Francis? Yeah, like the whole time on the outside, I was just picturing Bruno like, get your fucking bike back! You get your fucking bike back! Get it from him! Take what's yours!
00:30:58
Speaker
I know you are, but what am I? But also, throughout that match, the commentators, they really put an emphasis on the importance of that match. And they kept reminding... I'm glad you pointed this out. Because the commentators kept saying like, this is a big match. Whoever wins, they're going to move on to great things and whoever loses. This sets their career back a full year. Yeah.
00:31:24
Speaker
You don't hear that kind of stuff anymore. It was weird to say that a match was important and that it mattered who won. Well, it ultimately ended in a double disqualification, so it didn't matter. So everyone walked away okay. But this was the second longest match of the night. Yeah, other than the main event? Yeah.
00:31:47
Speaker
Wow. Didn't realize that until just now. Intercontinental Championship, man. Greg Valentine. Another Jimmy Hart appearance, I bet you were excited. Well, this was where I realized it. I didn't notice him the first time because the King Kong Bundy match. I got more Jimmy Hart FaceTime on that one, you know, about a seven minute match. I really got it to sink in the sexiness of the mouth of the South. Pretty sure on the back of Junkyard Dog's tights, it says thump right across the ass.
00:32:16
Speaker
yep yep the people were fucking loving junkyard dog fuck yeah they were god that guy was over like him coming out that was one of the pops of the night how do you feel about those the dog headbutt headbutts
00:32:33
Speaker
I'm a fan. You know what? I would try and get his permission and bring that back as my signature move now. You just get down in all fours and charge them and hit your head into theirs? They call a headbutt, but I mean, it's, you know. How do you think Junkyard Dog died? I don't know. Just tell me. Automobile accident at the age of 45. That's a bummer. His real name is Sylvester.
00:33:00
Speaker
You don't need this information, I'm just giving it to you, okay? Like, do with it what you will. You're bumming me out. Just assume that that's like watching a movie, like an old movie and looking at it being like, you know that dog's definitely dead, right? Like, that's just gonna be the case with pro wrestlers, unfortunately.
00:33:19
Speaker
Thanks. Junkyard Dog wins the match by countout, but he doesn't get the Intercontinental Championship as a result. The crowd was hot for this match. The crowd was behind the dog. I was behind the dog. I was ready for the dog to win. You know who did win? The Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkov. They won the WWF Tag Team Championships from Barry Windham and Mike Rotunda. My takeaway from this entire thing.
00:33:46
Speaker
What the fuck is going on with Captain Lou Albano's cheek? Okay, I was gonna ask you and I was hoping that you had the answer so we both didn't look like idiots, but definitely missing out on... Like, did he have a face piercing with rubber bands hanging from his face? I don't know what the fuck I was looking at! I was grossed out!
00:34:08
Speaker
Yeah, it wasn't pleasant to look at like it kind of gave me the vibe of if you remember in the movie airheads when Chris Farley is getting yelled at by the metalhead and he ends up grabbing his nipple ring and tearing it off of his body. I felt like I could have done that to Captain Lou's cheek. Like what was what's it even supposed to be? Is that supposed to be punk rock?
00:34:27
Speaker
No, because he looks like he's just trash. That's like skank behavior. Well, when you look at the two guys he's coming out with, who are just, you know, we got Barry Windham and Mike Rotondo, who, Mike Rotondo, probably, you know, if I'm gonna rate people's attractiveness like I have been, definitely the most attractive man of the whole night, Barry Windham creeped me out a little bit, but then you got Captain Lou to make him look even better.
00:34:53
Speaker
I think the right guys went over, and it's all because of what Captain Lou Albano did to his face. That was the decision before they went. I was like, hold there for a second. Sheik, you're going over.
00:35:05
Speaker
Andre the Giant, Big John Studd. It's a body slam challenge for $15,000. God, this match hurt me to watch again. Having watched the Andre documentary and seeing how much pain he would have been at that point in his career, it actually bothered me to watch him move. Well, that, but did you notice how impressive, like he still looked a little bit athletic? Like those chops that he did were kind of terrifying.
00:35:35
Speaker
Oh my God, I can't even imagine. Don't want that ever. The rapid fire chops to the chest from Andre the Giant. That's the feeling I get when I watch Walter now. And I now know that Walter is not nearly as big as I thought he was. So did Andre take a bump at all in this match? A little bit.
00:35:58
Speaker
But nothing major. I know that the fucking crowd popped like crazy when he picked Big John Studd up and dropped him. And of course Bobby Heenan like an asshole, you know, runs off with the money.
00:36:14
Speaker
And Andre's laughing, so he's either gonna get that money back or he doesn't even care, because he was in Princess Bride. When did he do Princess Bride? Was it after WrestleMania 1? What year was Mania 1? This was 85? I believe so. It would have been right around the same time, I think, because Princess Bride came out in 1987, so Princess Bride came out a couple years later.
00:36:42
Speaker
because I know they were talking about in that documentary again there's a scene in it when he catches the princess and as he's catching her like they ended up having to use ropes or like lower her into his arms because he was in so much pain he couldn't even hold the small lady
00:37:01
Speaker
He also, sorry, now I'm just like watching this as making, they said that he didn't like Big John Studd as well because Andre's thing was stepping over the top rope and Big John Studd started doing it too. So I believe at some point he really laid into Big John Studd and was like, I'm the giant. Well, I was wondering about that because did you notice at the end of the match when Big John Studd was trying to get away, Andre reached over and like grabbed his hair and yanked it? Did he step over the top rope to get away?
00:37:31
Speaker
I don't know. I wasn't paying attention to that at the time. I just know that as he was trying to make his getaway, Andre made a point to reach over and like try to snatch him by the hair. And it really just kind of yanked his hair pretty hard. It was probably real because once again, are you gonna fuck with Andre the Giant?
00:37:46
Speaker
No, but when Andre decides he's going to fuck with you, you're in trouble. I just, I will never get over macho man. The visual, just the image in my head of macho man going to the card, realizing he's fighting Andre the giant and just getting fucking sad. And there's nothing you can do. And just him seeming timid, having to go talk to a guy and realizing like, well, I can't even make up a match with him. He hates me.
00:38:12
Speaker
No baby oil. But you mentioned Andre the Giant pulling Big John Studd's hair. Hair pulling was a big thing in the next match.
00:38:23
Speaker
Well, we need to talk about this one because it's significant. We got Wendy Ricker with Cyndi Lauper in her corner against Leilana Kai and the Fabulous Mula. It's a singles match for the WWF Women's Championship. This is that rock and wrestling thing, man. And it's not the shortest match of the night. Like the women got, I mean, if you look at the times, they got just as long of a match as most of the guys did, some longer than some. Like this was longer than Ricky the Dragon's Steamboats match.
00:38:53
Speaker
right and it's not a bad little match and this is the thing I wanted to point out when I saw this is that I know if you're if you're a lady listening to this podcast you're gonna go yeah no shit Derek it's sad to see that we went from a time period where they were actually allowing women to wrestle to what it evolved into like during the attitude era where it became just you know smut and bra and panties matches that lasted 30 seconds and whatnot they let these girls go and it was a good little match
00:39:24
Speaker
Yeah, a lot of hair pulling, Cindy Lauper's the manager. Let's see, the finish was a little weird. It ended with a cross body that turned into a roll up. Yeah, but it wasn't the prettiest roll up. It was a weird roll up, but I would say overall, if we're gonna say this was the first women's match at a WrestleMania, that was a good fucking women's match. Yeah. Especially because they're sandwiched in between Andre the Giant and Hulk Hogan.
00:39:50
Speaker
Yeah, and it wasn't really a piss break. That was the other thing I wanna bring up about this show before we get to the main event. How did you feel about everything being one right after another rapid fire, boom, boom, boom, here's the next match. There wasn't like an entertainment segment in the middle of the show. They didn't have a lot of downtime. Did you like that?
00:40:09
Speaker
I did enjoy it. Going back and watching this, it makes it harder to know what the story was building because you don't get that awesome WWE video package that they have before every single match at a pay-per-view now. I don't think there's anyone who does video packages as well as WWE. They can make me care about nearly any match with those packages. Honestly, this was such a short show. There isn't a piss break.
00:40:37
Speaker
And like you said, it's only like a little over two hours. I think it's like two hours and 18 minutes or something like that. So how would you feel that WrestleMania was this long now? Would you feel like you'd be getting your money's worth? Would you be happier? If they want to do it like they were talking and split it into two days or something, then I guess that's what they can do. But I'm just saying, like, if they did WrestleMania in like under three hours, like two and a half hours, would you still pay the same price?
00:41:08
Speaker
No, no, if you're going to give me half, I mean, I guess at this point they they're charging more, but they're also giving us literally a seven hour show. Well, that's what's funny is that for all for all the complaining about the length of shows now, which, you know, hey, we're part of that, too. They give you a lot of shit for your money. Oh, yeah.
00:41:28
Speaker
I mean, it's essentially like a Woodstock of pro wrestling. I don't mean like in the way Cody meant it, but I meant and just like it's a fucking festival, man. But do you think having it that long kind of turns off casual fans? I think it turns off diehards because I think it's hard to be invested in something for that long.
00:41:51
Speaker
Well, and that's part of my decision and not going this year is, you know, if I'm going to be sitting somewhere for seven hours, I want to be comfortable. And then, you know, as soon as I say that, though, like I've said before, there are people who sit on their ass and watch football every Sunday for that long. So I don't know. I don't I don't know what makes it different. And you pointed out the video packages. I think the video packages.
00:42:14
Speaker
We appreciate them and we love them, but I think those are also there for people who are casual fans who don't watch every week to get caught up on everything that's happened. You don't have to watch a month's worth of events to know, oh, this is why they're fighting. But also, I mean, something else they cut out. This entire show had nine matches. And out of these nine matches, maybe, maybe six wrestlers got entrance music. Yeah, that's true.
00:42:42
Speaker
they started it in the ring. So I mean, as they cut over to a nervous British guy whose hands are shaking, and clearly, nobody fucking knows he's filming, because everybody's walking straight in front of the camera, crew and wrestlers alike. While that's happening, they're walking the other guys to the ring and then just like, all right, here we go. Next match.
Main Event Breakdown
00:43:04
Speaker
And so next match Hulk Hogan and Mr. T with Jimmy Snooka on the outside against Paul Orndoff, Roddy, Roddy Piper, and Bob Orton on the outside. Once again, a hot fucking crowd. Like this is, this is the equivalent of the Stephen Amell match at all in, but it was still just, uh, I mean, did it surprise you how short Mr. T was in comparison to everyone? No.
00:43:33
Speaker
I think I was surprised he did pretty well for somebody who this isn't his thing. And you kind of look at the situation and the crowd popped for Hogan's music so hard. Like I know that's a given now, but just we, I think we get so used to shows where there's no reaction to certain people and just, I think it's cool going back and watching some of the old stuff on the network.
00:43:59
Speaker
and seeing crowds who are just totally into every second of the show. It made me envious. It was probably, and the thing is, we say this every year with WrestleMania, we talk about the history of the pay-per-view. I mean, the people there probably had no idea.
00:44:17
Speaker
It was a two hour and 18 minute. It was two hours and 18 minutes of their life that they thought maybe was a one and done. Vince took a gamble on doing this and it's historic. And now we're getting ready to do number 35 here in a few weeks. It's just insane going. If you watched one and then 34, just how crazy different the show is. Yeah. No fanfare other than, you know, the announcers and everybody wearing tuxedos. Yeah.
00:44:46
Speaker
Um, are you happy you did this little exercise going back and watching the original WrestleMania? Honestly, we've been in the past few months, we have watched so much new wrestling and just trying to stay current on everything that one of my favorite things we do is go back and watch things we haven't seen. And I was really, really missing that. And I'm happy we're going to do that here for a while.
00:45:08
Speaker
Yeah, I am too. I had a lot of fun with this. I'm looking forward to doing more of these. So we could end up doing one for next week. We don't know. We're going to do these intermittently. But do you think that I don't remember if it was Roddy Piper or Paul Orndorff that there was a moment when Mr. T like they basically just started doing Matt wrestling with him and they got him in a headlock and he was just stuck.
00:45:33
Speaker
He clearly could do nothing. Was that them fucking with him? Because that is like they basically got to a point where it looked like they choked Mr. T to unconsciousness. I think that was a receipt as they call it in the business versus like, hey, just a reminder at any moment I can make this real and there's nothing you can do.
00:45:52
Speaker
After that, he was never in the match again. That was the end of Mr. T in that match, was him basically being choked unconscious, still getting a tag, and then just hanging out on the side of the ring looking like he was hurt.
WrestleMania 1: A Must-Watch
00:46:07
Speaker
WrestleMania 1, man. If you haven't, if any of you guys are listening to this podcast like Pro Wrestling, you haven't gone back and watched WrestleMania 1. Get ready to celebrate WrestleMania 35, so now's as good a time as any to go back and do that. Hope you enjoyed our commentary on it. Garrett, I have a question for you. Yeah. How was fighting with my family? It was pretty good. What?
00:46:32
Speaker
That's it. You initially texted me that you were not happy. You have to elaborate more than that. What happened? What's going on?
Wrestling Films for Beginners
00:46:39
Speaker
Well, I think a big part of it is, it is definitely a movie where they talk to you like you aren't super familiar with wrestling. They explain a lot. It felt like I was getting a lot explained to me and there was one specific scene in the performance center where Vince Vaughn is the coach and he is basically just going through and in the span of
00:47:02
Speaker
one paragraph rattles off like all of the wrestling lingo that you would use in an everyday conversation. Like as a mark? Kinda, yeah. Or a smarky, whatever. Like heel, babyface, over, selling, just like everything. It just felt like, okay, if I didn't know what pro wrestling was, I get to have a preference.
00:47:25
Speaker
Ventibon explain it to me. There were only a few wrestlers in it doing cameos, Seamus, and I guess, is this a spoiler? I was gonna ask, don't spoil too much, because I may still go see it, and it's a new movie, so some of our listeners might not have seen it yet. So don't give away too much, but go ahead.
00:47:48
Speaker
Yeah, they, one thing they focus a lot on is, cause I think we're all pretty hard on the divas division, especially at that time it was the divas division and they do a good job of humanizing the ladies who were working to be in the divas division that, you know, like they had stuff that they, you know, dreams and accomplishments they were going towards as well. Kind of like making you like not as angry with them, I guess.
00:48:16
Speaker
where it felt like real, you know, it always felt like real wrestlers weren't getting the time and they were hiring models and cheerleaders. But you see, you know, these cheerleaders and models had families. They had people they were trying to support. They were in it for the right reasons, too. I mean, they got offered money to do a thing. And, you know, why would you turn that down? Was the comedy shitty? And did they overplay how much The Rock was a part of the story?
00:48:43
Speaker
He was really only in it. Like basically what you see in the trailers is the Rock scenes. And I think there were definitely things that the Rock does with her career that he probably wasn't there for. But it isn't super in your face. I think it's a nice little coming of age story and I think that it was pretty enjoyable. I think everyone will like it.
00:49:03
Speaker
Everyone's wrestling fans and non-wrestling fans like I think it's something that if you're looking if you're a wrestling fan And you're trying to take your significant other to a movie And I think I like put it this way Leah enjoyed it. She actually thought it was a good movie, okay? Fair enough, that's that's a decent little review there
00:49:23
Speaker
and just kind of getting to see more of her backstory with like her brother and you know, cause I kind of knew Paige's story, but I didn't know the full story and getting to see it and then getting to see some of the actual footage of her with her family at the end was really cool. Yeah, just overall nice, nice little movie. It's nice. I think nice is the best way to put it. So there is one current wrestler playing a character and I don't think this is a surprise. I believe it is in the trailer. I just didn't realize, but Zelina Vega plays AJ Lee.
00:49:54
Speaker
Oh, OK. And I was kind of surprised we didn't get more current female wrestlers in the movie taking roles. But I did know Tessa Blanchard did all the stunt wrestling for the actress that played Paige. Oh, so that's kind of cool. Did you get your Pete Dunn cameo or Pete Dunn acting cameo that you were looking for? Yes, I just whoever was playing Pete Dunn is just hilarious because he is the most it was clearly somebody being Pete Dunn.
00:50:24
Speaker
And I believe, I mean it was in one scene and he basically gets mistaken for a lady. Aww. But yeah, overall, I think it's worth seeing. I don't know if you necessarily need to rush out and see it in theaters, but it's one that I think a wrestling fan, if it rolls around onto a streaming service, you're gonna check it out and have a good time.
00:50:44
Speaker
So my thing on Friday was I got a little bit tipsy.
Wrestling Triumphs: Guerrero & Kingston
00:50:49
Speaker
I came home and I watched pro wrestling on the WWE Network for a while, several hours in fact. What did you get into? I got into a lot of stuff, but I specifically wanted the watch match. I hadn't watched for a little bit and it's an emotional one and it was the what, let's see, 15 year anniversary of.
00:51:13
Speaker
And on February 15th, 2004, WWE no way out from the Cow Palace. Garrett, you've been to the Cow Palace recently. I have. Tremendous facility. Tremendous facility? That's not what I hear. I hear that it's shit. There's one entrance slash exit and it's on one side of the building and everybody has to go that way. Is that true? Yeah, no, there was a huge fucking line and we were all going through one thing, but I got there early enough that it wasn't a big deal for me.
00:51:43
Speaker
Well, 15 years ago, Eddie Guerrero versus Brock Lesnar for the WWE Championship. The unexpected happens. Eddie Guerrero beats Lesnar. Crowd's really into it. Garrett, you've never watched this match. This is my homework to you for next week. We could talk about this a little bit more next week, but I'm giving that to you as a gift.
00:52:04
Speaker
How many tattoos did Lesnar have at this point in his career? Was he cut in his own promos? Yeah, he was cut in his own promos. He was at his best in the build to this match.
00:52:18
Speaker
Did he have a sombrero on? Yes, this is the feud where he put the sombrero on and brought out the mariachi band. Did he have a fake mustache on as well? No. Do you think he was offered one and turned it down? I hope that's what happened, because that's a great story. I cannot even imagine trying to put a costume on him.
00:52:43
Speaker
Like picture if picture of in a world where he isn't an asshole and that he does like a match with the new day where he's partners with them. Didn't he fight the new day on like a network special or something? He killed Kofi Kingston in Japan.
00:52:59
Speaker
Was that the name of the show? I think, yeah, the show was called Beast in the East or the Beast Heads East or something like that. But either way, he had a match against Kofi and threw him on his head like six or seven times and then it was over. Yeah. Kofi seems to be doing well for himself these days. I would say better than well. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. What else did you watch?
00:53:24
Speaker
I watched some WrestleMania 20 main event, which is he who shall not be named against Shawn Michaels against Triple H. Voldemort? Basically. Who's he shall not? Oh. Oh. No, no. No, no. You got to figure it out. Yeah, I figured it out. It isn't a dark wizard. Yeah. I hadn't watched that match in a while. It's more of a Jack the Ripper type. Yeah.
00:53:55
Speaker
Got onto that. Um, I watched, I think it's from 2016. I watched some Sami Zayn versus Kevin Owens. I think it was from battleground. Um, that was a good match. Yeah. I basically like my, my thing that I figured out I liked doing again is getting some beers, pounding about six tall boys by myself and putting on random matches on the network. And.
00:54:25
Speaker
You're not really much of a drinker, Garrett. That's true, I'm not. I'm not shaming you, I'm just letting you know that this isn't the thing that I can share experiences with you about. I can get inebriated in my own ways. Yeah, of course. Crack cocaine. Crack cocaine is perfectly acceptable. You know, I just have a nice bowl of crack cocaine and then watch Terry Funk.
00:54:51
Speaker
So Dave Batista is back in WWE. You didn't know this until right before the podcast. No, I am officially done moving in like we finished with the other apartment. We spent eight hours cleaning it this weekend. So as of this week, I will be back watching wrestling on the reg. I will have it all consumed and ready.
00:55:12
Speaker
Good for you. Now update, is it haunted? Is the house haunted? No. No ghosts. Though my wife is leaving for a week and I have a feeling that if I'm seeing ghosts, it's going to be while I'm here alone for seven days. Yeah. Just shoot me a text. Let me know if something happens. Yeah, you won't answer. You're just going to be like in the middle of the night. Buzz, buzz, buzz. He's an asshole for trying to text me. I'll answer for that. But you won't see it. Also put it on nighttime mode so that you don't get the buzz in.
00:55:41
Speaker
Sorry. That's what I do. Are you venting at me now? Yeah, you're the one that's a jerk. There's options to not hear those buzzes. I am a little bit of a jerk. You can't avoid how shitty I am. So Big Dave isn't the only one that's back. Who else is back, Garrett? I hear Mr. Roman Reigns made a return.
Returns & Reactions: Roman Reigns
00:56:02
Speaker
He did! And by here, I did watch this. Leukemia's in remission.
00:56:08
Speaker
That crowd, was this the very first time they got the Roman Reigns reaction they've always wanted? Yeah, you know Vince had a hard on. It's hard to not feel good for the guy. No, it felt awesome. I'm good for him. And good for him, the crowd being receptive. And I thought it was cool that they let him come out and take his time. He got to go around the entire ring twice, once before and once after, taking pictures with people. Seth came out.
00:56:38
Speaker
I mean, he had a good speech, tell everyone that, you know, stinking everybody for all the support. We gave him support. We were supportive despite saying things that, you know, might have upset him face to face in the past. We were supportive. We wanted Roman to come back. And he's actually, I guess, back back.
00:56:58
Speaker
Yeah, I wasn't expecting that I was expecting him to make an announcement saying Soon like I'm healed but I've got a few weeks or something. I didn't realize he's gonna be like I'm kicking ass next week I hope you're ready for the main event of WrestleMania
00:57:12
Speaker
and then the next day did Good Morning America. Didn't see any of that interview, but I'm assuming it went well. Who would you start him with now that he's back and in like an actual baby face? I'm hearing rumors that they're going to do some kind of shield thing at Fastlane, which I'm kind of over. Like I'm happy that Roman's back and I'm already at that. What are you doing? I'm not into.
00:57:38
Speaker
Not trying to be a dick. Stop trying to milk the shield stuff. Though I guess if Dean's leaving this is their last chance, right? Yeah, I guess what'll happen is it's gonna be the shield versus somebody but then, I don't know, Alexa Bliss comes out and beats Dean. I think Alexa Bliss teased showing her tits on Raw.
00:57:59
Speaker
Did you see that? Again? No, I didn't.
Fun & Games: WWE Raw Antics
00:58:03
Speaker
She was interviewing Finn Balor, who's the Intercontinental Champion, and she was saying that she's upset that he's got that title around his waist because it covers up those beautiful abs. And she says, if you take that title off and show me those abs, I'll show you my... And that is when there's an interruption and you don't get to hear her finish. Well, what do I gotta show to see Sean Michaels' dong?
00:58:34
Speaker
You lament. We're not going to be able to... Everybody's got that. Everybody's going to say, you know, like, well, you didn't watch all of Marine Six, dude, hang some brain. I'm not going to make any promises on when we're seeing Marine Six because it's been the ongoing quest for like three months. I'm just going to send you a copy in the mail. You're going to get an Amazon package and you're going to be forced to watch it.
00:59:02
Speaker
I'm not forced. I want to watch it. I'd be happy. Well, can we just quit talking about it and just fucking do it? Let's just quit talking and end this episode. I think we've given the people enough. I think we've covered our bases. Derek, where can the people find us on social media?
00:59:18
Speaker
Well, as I said earlier, if you want to reach out to us on social media where we do polls, post pictures, all that fun stuff, we interact with you guys there.
Final Interaction Call
00:59:26
Speaker
We're at Wrestle Hangout on Twitter at Wrestle Hangout on Facebook at predetermined podcast on Instagram. And you can email us predetermined podcast at Gmail dot com. As you can text me and see where that gets you.
00:59:40
Speaker
Yeah, you can make us watch something. If you leave us a nice little review on iTunes, we have to watch it as long as it's mildly pro wrestling related. Give us five stars. We'd appreciate it. Garrett, I have nothing else to add. I kind of hope somebody asked us to watch a Buff Bagwells reality show where he's hooking.
00:59:58
Speaker
I'd watch that. That sounds fun. Aren't you excited for new episodes of Ms. and Mrs.? Is that coming back soon? Are they Aaron promos? They've been Aaron promos, Garrett. Fuck yes, Derek. You gotta keep me up to date on this shit. You know I've been busy. Hit our goddamn music.