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Alexis : I found...
Plant People: Oh my.
Alexis : My mic just fell off the thing. Just kidding. and I was so excited to tell you about the monarch caterpillar that I found recently.
Plant People: Whoa.
Alexis : That I just. My mic just jumped off of my desk.
Jessica : Bye.
Alexis : Apologies to those of you with earbuds in right now.
Plant People: RIP to my eardrum.
Alexis : I am so very sorry, but.
Plant People: Wait, wait, before you jump into that. Was that voice on the intro? the voice of the University of Kentucky's fall campaign.
Alexis : I guess.
Jessica : The voice that I'm going to hear when I watch every single football game this fall.
Alexis : yeah I guess you're going to have to watch um the football games this fall and find out.
Jessica : Turn on the SEC network.
Alexis : so
Plant People: Yeah. Alexis is alexis is is ah is what do they call it? Daylighting as a a voice actor.
Alexis : with With my very non -broadcasting neutral accent is what I've been told.
Plant People: is that how Is that the voice you used? Please tell me now.
Alexis : what which one now i don't know i'm like what voice do i have
Plant People: You were like you You were, so you were saucing it up big time. You were like, ah, this is. ah
Alexis : it's ah It is my more calm. Calm, serious voice.
Jessica : Your calm voice.
Alexis : That's for sure. My calm, serious voice. Yes. Yeah. That I rarely use on this podcast because we're just so full of fun and life and excitement.
Plant People: Next up.
Plant People: Yeah, the joy is...
Alexis : Unless I'm talking about, you know, biology.
Jessica : Non -aggressive.
Alexis : and Yeah.
Plant People: Wait, so, okay, so you found the Monarch Caterpillar.
Alexis : I found them on our Caterpillar. I don't have a ton of... art like milkweed regular milkweed that we think about I have a lot of vining milkweed which is unfortunate when you're growing plants but I have to end up leaving a few patches for the monarch caterpillars um otherwise I feel very guilty but I did they're here much earlier I feel like then I've seen At my house.
Plant People: Hmm.
Alexis : I personally usually get them very late. I don't know if it's because I have high tunnels or or what, like I find them in there, but I usually get them very late. And this year I have found them much earlier. So I'm very excited about that.
Jessica : I have six. I have six monarch caterpillars on my kitchen table.
Alexis : Nice nice
Jessica : And I found two more eggs last night and I said, we can't. keep all these caterpillars we're gonna run out of space food and every night
Alexis : We - We cannot. Feed this many children, okay?
Jessica : It's... Thanks. it's a thing every we have to we have to keep going and foraging for more for more milkweed Okay.
Alexis : so
Plant People: And they're monarchs, so I assume they have expensive tastes.
Alexis : There's none?
Jessica : Yes, yes.
Alexis : Hmm.
Jessica : And so we go.
Plant People: Little Lord Fottle Roy.
Jessica : Collectively. So i know I was nice enough. Our office is really big into the Monarch. We've actually been tagging them.
Plant People: Hmm.
Jessica : uh
Alexis : Cute.
Jessica : Yeah. ah
Alexis : So.
Plant People: What does that look like?
Alexis : It's crazy.
Plant People: what does that look like
Jessica : So we it's a part of the Monarch Watch ah Association group. that
Plant People: I have a Monarch watch way station in my backyard.
Jessica : Oh, nice.
Alexis : Mm -hmm.
Jessica : ah But they provide.
Plant People: you're Not impressed. I have six monarchs.
Jessica : No! as Technically, I have eight because I found two eggs, but I gave them away.
Alexis : oh So nice. There you go.
Plant People: they're They're multiplying that. Well, I got 10.
Jessica : I gave them away.
Plant People: I got 10. How many you got?
Jessica : yeah
Plant People: Wait, sorry. So how do you tag how do you tag a monarch?
Jessica : I. Very carefully. um It's a tiny little sticker that has a a set of numbers on it.
Plant People: and
Alexis : Which is insane that you put a sticker on a butterfly.
Jessica : Yes.
Plant People: How small? Like how small?
Jessica : An eraser. Like, ah right.
Plant People: Okay.
Jessica : on like a pencil think about that size that's a good comparison to it so um i love the fact i just did a bunch of monarch classes because that's like i said our thing here at the office every year and i love on their resource their website it's like they are a stronger butterfly just yoink grab them put the sticker on and let them go so and then in parentheses it has it's like but do not do this with any other butterfly because you will kill them
Alexis : a pencil.
Plant People: Okay. Okay. Whoa.
Alexis : Okay.
Alexis : ah Yeah, no most butterflies are not traveling that far, so they're not quite as resilient.
Jessica : But the monarchs are tough. Yeah.
Plant People: Well, ah you know, we we know Jessica now as as this amazing professional woman butterfly, but in your chrysalis phase, you were an entomologist, right?
Jessica : Yeah.
Jessica : I was. Yeah. Yep.
Alexis : shit She's very impressed by that.
Jessica : I... I am...
Alexis : Like her eyeballs just get big. She's like, did he just, did he just make that?
Plant People: Hmm.
Jessica : We just made that?
Plant People: Mm hmm.
Jessica : Thank you.
Plant People: I have a very niche type of Riz.
Jessica : Yeah.
Plant People: that I just... Just let you see.
Jessica : Now you know.
Plant People: when
Jessica : Um.
Plant People: Because you you and you worked in... When you were working at the UK South Farm, the UK Horticulture Research Farm, you were doing most that mostly in an entomology?
Jessica : Uh,
Plant People: capacity.
Jessica : For my whole undergrad, it was all horticulture.
Plant People: Okay.
Jessica : And then switched over to entomology. And I actually was cleaning a cabinet out here at work the other day and found these vials.
Plant People: Okay.
Jessica : And they were vials of spotted wing drosophila. And I came out and showed everybody. And I was like, oh, look at these. And they were like, yeah. And I was like, I i packaged these.
Alexis : so
Jessica : I went through so many samples of apple cider vinegar and put these in vials and sent them out.
Alexis : That's how I met Jessica. The spider wing Drosophila brought us together.
Plant People: Wow.
Jessica : Across the state.
Plant People: Sparks flew.
Jessica : And I was like, I did this. 15 years ago. And they were just like, that's cool.
Plant People: like like Like several of them are still alive in there somehow.
Jessica : I'm like it is cool.
Alexis : Whee! Okay.
Plant People: it's like
Alexis : ah
Plant People: God, this thing is bulletproof
Jessica : Yeah. Don't even, you know, like to get in there.
Plant People: and So we have we have a bunch of milkweed, but it's all like our backyard is sort of like this biomass chaos. And so they're probably happy about it because they can kind of be hidden, but I don't get to see very much of them.
Alexis : Thanks.
Jessica : Yeah.
Alexis : Yeah.
Jessica : Yeah, it's...
Alexis : I gotta go find me some swallowtail so I can get my annual little squeeze the caterpillar and his little horns pop out. It's my favorite thing to do.
Jessica : Yeah.
Alexis : It makes me giggle.
Jessica : Those are fun.
Alexis : Every time, like just like a little baby, you know, and they like get to giggling and it's that's me when I give them a little little squeeze.
Jessica : Yeah.
Plant People: Oh wow, I don't know anything about that.
Alexis : and they
Jessica : And they're, yeah, they're really cool.
Alexis : well
Jessica : And it's like. trying to protect themselves but
Alexis : Mm -hmm.
Jessica : doesn't really do anything.
Alexis : these little like orange horns pop out and it just, ugh.
Jessica : cute
Alexis : It is. Peace. balm to my soul.
Plant People: maybe they expect the Maybe they expect the predator to giggle so much that they forget to eat them.
Jessica : All right.
Jessica : Maybe.
Alexis : I mean. Done.
Jessica : We also collected swallowtails last year.
Alexis : solved.
Plant People: That's right.
Alexis : Mm -hmm.
Jessica : And which are fun. You can find them like they fold the leaves over on themselves and the kind when they first look like bird poop.
Alexis : mm -hmm
Jessica : And then as they grow, they look like a snake.
Alexis : Mm hmm.
Jessica : So they're really cool. ah They're not as fun to bring inside because they just ah fold the leaf over so you don't get to watch them eat.
Alexis : Yeah, no like big chrysalis.
Jessica : Like the Monarch? And then I had the fear last year, which kind of ties in a little bit.
Alexis : Mm hmm.
Jessica : what we're talking about today. Um, that they were going into their overwintering state. So some butterflies and caterpillars, right, they go through their complete life cycle, they do their thing, and then they hatch out to a beautiful butterfly.
Alexis : neck
Jessica : You know, they come out of their raccoon, as my children say, because that's the real purpose of a raccoon. um So you produce butterflies. But I had the fear of.
Jessica : These guys. We're not going to come out. because sometimes they go in preparing for winter. And stay in that cocoon or chrysalis all winter. before they emerged back out.
Jessica : um
Plant People: i didn't I didn't realize they could overwinter in that.
Jessica : Yes. So a lot of the small hotels.
Plant People: That's cool.
Jessica : do that and i had the fear of i was like what am i gonna do with this all winter But thankfully it hatched out.
Alexis : What? Where do I put these? Do I put them like in the garage?
Jessica : Bye.
Alexis : Like what do we do? What do we do in here?
Plant People: This is...
Jessica : Right. And can I goingnna have a butterfly emerge at Christmas?
Plant People: Listen.
Jessica : Like what's going to happen?
Plant People: This has the potential to go nowhere, but why are they called swallowtails?
Jessica : I honestly don't know off the top of my head.
Plant People: Okay. as As predicted, it went it went nowhere.
Jessica : I think it has something to do with like their wings.
Plant People: Not the tails.
Jessica : They all and
Alexis : Because they have that like drop. A little droop.
Jessica : Yeah. Like the little tail. Yeah.
Plant People: i will I will look it up and report back next episode.
Alexis : Yeah.
Jessica : Thank you.
Alexis : But going to your point of, ah you know, talking about overwintering.
Jessica : Winter.
Alexis : Right. We know it's so warm outside, but this is this episode is all about giving you that little reminder, maybe that little thing to do because you don't want to go outside and weed because it's probably still ungodly hot when you're listening to this. Um,
Alexis : But still, you want to be, if you're if you're me, you still want to be productive, right? Because what is what is chill time?
Plant People: Hmm.
Alexis : What you could do... is sort of take some stock of uh things to prepare for winter for first frost because no one likes to be the person who the night before like the day before the first frost and you're like oh my god it's gonna be 30 degrees tomorrow uh where is everything or oh god i don't have enough or any of those so this is sort of your reminder to maybe take some stock start thinking about some things um benefit.
Alexis : If you're panicking at this moment, that's why we're saying this now. so that week nobody has panic moments.
Plant People: Well, yeah, because we are less than two months out.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: We're listening to it. So think about how fast. how how How recent June felt. That's how close we are. forward. to the first frost date.
Alexis : Yeah. Some of you are like, please, for the love of God, kill everything.
Plant People: Well.
Alexis : um I'm not quite to that point yet, but... ah it's It's a coming quickly. Kill it all. But anyways, yes.
Plant People: Yeah.
Alexis : So ah first wanted to say from a houseplant point of view, because, you know, we like to talk about homeowner stuff as well as farm stuff. But I wanted.
Plant People: And some farmers like houseplants.
Alexis : And some farmers like houseplants. Hi, hello, it's me.
Plant People: Hmph.
Alexis : This is also my personal reminder.
Plant People: Guilty.
Alexis : If you have any houseplants that you are like, wow, this really needs to be repotted. This is about the last time you're going to want to do that until spring.
Jessica : Like all my Christmas cactuses that I just did.
Alexis : Jessica. up Reminded me, yes, she she texted me and said, i my Christmas cactus. And I was like, Oh no, I need to do that. so we
Jessica : I ended up just just doing all of them. At that point, so five.
Alexis : Yeah. We usually like to do that before the light really starts to go away and it starts to get cooler and you're bringing them inside. So we want them to so you know kind of settle in before they need to be brought inside, um you know, off your porch or something like that before the light goes completely. So if you're going to repot something.
Alexis : Here's your reminder.
Plant People: I think on that same note with the houseplants. If you will, I have one. Comment and one question.
Alexis : Mmm. Mmm.
Plant People: Which would you prefer first?
Alexis : Comment.
Jessica : Yeah.
Plant People: First comment. if you have added to your houseplant collection and put those outside
Alexis : yeah
Plant People: And you don't yet have a plan for where you're going to put them inside. Think about that. Because I can tell you just hypothetically.
Alexis : Yep, yep.
Plant People: from personal experience. that Oh my God, it's going to freeze tonight. We have to figure out a place to do with all these is kind of stressful experience. And I'm not trying to have a stressful houseplant experience or or other plant experience in general um myself.
Alexis : Mm -hmm. Mm hmm. mm -hmm
Plant People: So that would be my comment is like, if you've added stuff or you potted stuff up into a big thing to put it outside this year.
Alexis : Yes.
Plant People: make sure that that big pot has a place that it can go inside your house.
Alexis : Go online, order you a shelf.
Plant People: And if.
Alexis : Or something.
Plant People: Mm -hmm.
Jessica : You some
Plant People: move stuff around rearrange the furniture fix the feng shui of the room whatever you need to do
Jessica : but are they Get some trays to put under the pots so when the water leaks out.
Plant People: That would be my one comment.
Alexis : that's a Yes, that's a good one, Jessica.
Jessica : I always, I don't have those.
Plant People: Mm -hmm.
Jessica : And thank you.
Alexis : Especially when you pot something up, you no longer have the tray that fits it anymore and you're like, oh no!
Jessica : because i
Jessica : Right.
Plant People: Yeah, one thing one thing I've done for that, especially...
Jessica : rightp
Plant People: If, like, if... if I like having the plants. I like them to look nice and that's cool, but like i'm I'm a fairly functional person.
Alexis : you
Plant People: If you can find relatively inexpensive boot trays like you keep inside the door.
Alexis : Okay.
Plant People: And then you can put like.
Alexis : isn
Plant People: Eight things on one tray.
Alexis : Yeah.
Jessica : Right.
Plant People: And it's just easier to manage. And so that's a little tip. So my question is.
Alexis : It's actually good for humidity control, side note. That is great for, you know, in the winter, we usually, a lot of people's plants get crunchy in the winter. So kind of having them all together and the fact that, you know, you can put some water in there and let that water evapotranspirate or have some transpiration going on, that can help with humidity.
Plant People: Mm hmm.
Plant People: Yeah.
Alexis : If you get crunchy plants in the winter, that's a good idea.
Plant People: Yeah, i've I've noticed when I when i keep more... more water in the tray so the roots are up out of the water but there's water underneath there
Alexis : Mm -hmm.
Plant People: especially in that root zone and everything. Like they just do way better.
Alexis : thanks
Plant People: Like I've just noticed that as a. uh Noob.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: My question is. for doing that transition. Is there like a quarantine or treatment or whatever for like bugs and things that may have gotten on those plants outside?
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: I'm a never, I don't take. My moving stuff is mostly bonsai, but... ah Some people don't don't put their houseplants outside at all because they don't want to deal with that. What's the vibe on that?
Alexis : Jessica I'll let you take this one.
Jessica : Uh... I also don't move a lot of houseplants outside. But that's because I had an experience once of where one like completely got destroyed by. uh It was like slugs or something else got on a little house plant that I had.
Plant People: No.
Jessica : But making sure if you're bringing things back inside, like I thank you, Brett, you've reminded me I have a lemon and a lime tree that I have to find a place for now. um What I'm going to do is before I put those anywhere near any of my other houseplants that I love, my desirable houseplants that I don't want, I want to keep pest.
Jessica : free.
Alexis : Mm -hmm.
Jessica : I'm going to probably bring them in. and isolate them for a little bit. I'm going to check them out. before As well, before I move them, I'm going to flip leaves upside down because that's where insects like to hide on the underside of leaves and just give them a quick look over.
Jessica : ah If I do see any like aphids or anything like that, I'll probably just blast them with a water hose at first.
Alexis : is you.
Jessica : get some warm
Plant People: in In your living room.
Jessica : Yep. there's already all sorts of other stuff in there anyways. So just add to it. Maybe it'll help clean the rug, right?
Plant People: But take take it back outside and blast them off. Knock all those pests off.
Jessica : Yeah. Yeah.
Plant People: Maybe bring them back in and quarantine them a little longer.
Jessica : and
Plant People: and
Jessica : Right. And then, you know, keep it a little a separate location. um But you're right. You need to start kind of paying attention now of like. What would be a good location? where what is it And that you know that sunlight's going to change a little bit.
Jessica : with um
Alexis : Great.
Jessica : Okay. But.
Alexis : buy some lights this is your reminder if you got more house plans you might need to invest in some um lighting for this winter too. And I know of Ray has said on here before that he We'll put a systemic granular. So as long as you don't have small children or cats or something digging in your soil of your houseplants, you know, you can. um Put some.
Alexis : uh granular systemic pesticide uh right on the soil surface and then every time you water it kind of goes down into the soil uh that's also an option and so that will kill off anything because there are some things mealybugs that like
Jessica : Okay.
Plant People: Yeah mealybugs and scale to me are the two that are like
Jessica : Right.
Alexis : Some of them will actually live on the roots for a while and then they'll pop up.
Plant People: Golly.
Alexis : And so you may do the spray, you quarantine and do all the right things. And then a month later, you know, after you've moved them all close to your other plants, they've exploded because they were down in the pot and there's just no way for you to have.
Alexis : to have known that. So, um you know, speaking speaking from experience.
Jessica : Okay. And that... Good. That's...
Plant People: Yeah.
Jessica : such a great option to be able to do it that way versus sprays because i see
Alexis : mm -hmm
Jessica : I see where people want to spray things or make their own sprays on their houseplants and everything.
Alexis : Yeah. Hydrogen peroxide and random stuff.
Jessica : and Right.
Alexis : Yeah.
Jessica : And. you know, you're not really having pollinators visit these plants, ah most of them, right? So it's not like you're eating from them unless maybe you have a lemon tree. Right.
Plant People: Mm -hmm.
Jessica : So keep keep that in mind, anything you're going to eat off of.
Plant People: Mm hmm.
Jessica : But besides that, it's, you know, that's a. I feel like an easier option to actually treat with an insecticide that way in the soil versus spraying and and then just having that battle constantly and potentially.
Alexis : mm -hmm
Alexis : Right.
Jessica : having the pests you know maybe you just annoy them enough that they just want to hop over onto something else Right, but you're not killing them.
Alexis : yeah
Plant People: yeah because so like In case anybody doesn't know, the systemic thing that Alexis is talking about, it's sort of like the... flea collar or the drops you put on your pet where they like take it into their system and then when something bites them, it dies.
Plant People: it's kind of similar to that so you're putting it into the vascular system of the plant so when that thing feeds on it It is its last meal or one of its last meals.
Alexis : Toast.
Plant People: Okay, cool.
Alexis : So, yeah.
Plant People: Houseplant. Done and dusted.
Alexis : Houseplants. um one thing that uh again from personal experience just because also probably personally maybe it brought in brett too if he's covering bonsai or something but um What's your, ah you know...
Alexis : listener what is your frost cloth looking like right now is it in a giant lump that ah you were like, I'll fold this later or I'll deal with this later. And ah later never came.
Plant People: You pulled it off and there was like frozen clumps of ice and snow on it.
Alexis : ah No judgment.
Plant People: And now it's just this muddy mess that's completely melted.
Alexis : Uh huh. Uh -huh.
Jessica : no
Alexis : Okay.
Jessica : It's not a crocheted chain hanging up somewhere.
Alexis : Mm hmm.
Jessica : yeah
Plant People: i mean
Alexis : yeah
Plant People: They just changed it.
Alexis : um So yeah, so go.
Plant People: if If you didn't take the time to put it up, then before.
Alexis : Yes. So go take a look at it. See what you got. See what probably needs to be thrown away um because we all have some every year. If you haven't didn't do that when you were pulling everything off the rows for the final time, you know take a good look. Are there giant holes and stuff? Can they be repaired? If not, if you're going to throw those away, do you need more? So you don't want to be stuck in the position where this week it's going to freeze and you go to you know wherever you get your supplies from or try and order from and they're out. because everybody is doing this right now. So um it also tends to get more a little bit more expensive, I have found, the closer we get to winter. So if you have the ability to kind of purchase some now, even as backup, it is I always say it doesn't go bad if i as long as I've got a safe place to keep it.
Alexis : I'd rather have it on hand. um
Alexis : Because you never know when you need to throw an extra, you know. row cover on or something. But, you know, take a look at your row cover. and This is me also talking to me that I need to go do that. Do I have enough? Is it long enough? How much, how many holes are still in it? And that kind of thing. Especially, you know, if you're going to grow some more stuff this winter. Maybe you're going to do a winter garden. Maybe you're thinking about sowing, you know, some carrots or some kale or something for this winter. um Or, you know, you expanded your high tunnel production or something. You're going to need more row cover. And sometimes we forget until
Alexis : again, like the day before or the week of a frost or a freeze. And it's like. This is the worst time to be remembering this.
Plant People: Yeah, and your hands hurt. while you're trying to like sort it you know it's like oh my hands hurt so bad i
Alexis : Yeah, and her hands are cold. And you're. You know, you're always, yeah. And you're always doing it right before a storm comes in. In fact, my husband, when we were.
Plant People: Windy. Ugh.
Alexis : Yeah. And he was like, why are we always doing this right before a storm? I was like, because we don't need it until right before the storm comes.
Plant People: Because nobody made a horde culture episode about it for me to listen to.
Alexis : nobody made a horror yeah and you know the other thing that um now that i'm thinking about it You know, you might be like, yes, Alexis, I have checked my frost fabric. Do you have weights for your frost fabric? Do you have hoops still good?
Plant People: Yeah.
Alexis : That's the part that I always miss.
Jessica : Right.
Plant People: Hoops I was gonna say hoops. Yeah
Alexis : It's hoops and then weights to hold down your hoops if you're not gonna use soil or something like that like Half of my sandbags are done. I'm gonna need to figure out what else I'm going to use this year.
Alexis : So.
Plant People: I have, I have. a vivid visceral memory. of This is when I worked at the South Farm. And we had some stuff that was under hoops and under row cover we did not listen to this hort culture episode and prepare ahead of time and so it was cold you know temperature's dropping it's cold we're going back and we're getting all the hoops
Alexis : it
Alexis : yes sir
Plant People: And I picked up the hoops. I don't still don't exactly know how I did it. And one of the, if this is like a kind of a flexible. wire, thick gauge wire. it caught on like the A piece of the... row cover that was in a pile.
Plant People: pulled it back and snapped me right across the fingernail.
Alexis : oh
Jessica : oh
Plant People: And it... It would have been bad enough, but it was so cold and my fingers were like on the edge between numb and and not numb.
Alexis : So cold.
Jessica : Yeah.
Alexis : o
Plant People: Absolutely. Lightning. pain uh and while while you're rushing because it's cold and we need to get these out and you know so
Alexis : Yes. Yeah, yeah It's probably like starting to sleep.
Plant People: Don't do that.
Alexis : How many times have we all been there?
Plant People: Yeah. Starting to sleep. I'm going to like fall um um at least once or twice. I'm going to fall and just fall straight into the. mud like this is the this is the vibe if you don't
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: Plan ahead.
Alexis : Right, right. so Again, this is sort of like what I plan to do when I'm like, God, I need to be doing something. but I don't want to weed or I don't want to do the things that I need to do.
Alexis : I can still do this. Right. And maybe and wrap my brain around something that is will be future. Alexis will be very proud of me. So.
Plant People: That's the way that's the way
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: And like, so then you go, when you go that, have that experience, if it's time to put stuff out and you've got a nice, neat pile of row cover, you've got all your things in one place, you can just grab them.
Alexis : mm -hmm
Plant People: You can, you'd be like, oh man, why don't I always do this? it's a great feeling
Alexis : Right, right. Doing it for spring, doing it all the time.
Jessica : It is.
Plant People: like It's like packing your lunch ah you know packing your lunch ahead of time, getting all your clothes laid out. like And in the mornings, it's calm vibes.
Alexis : And at least you don't have to do that every day, right? You have to plan your lunch every day. But this you can just do now and then it's ready to go, right?
Plant People: Mm -hmm.
Alexis : So it's not an endless task, but um that's good. Also, we i just said winner I mentioned winter garden. If you are going to ah do a winter garden, such as you know carrots, kale, what else do you guys like to plant in the fall?
Alexis : Radishes. Turnips.
Plant People: I mean, it's not exactly garlic, but it's not the answer to that.
Jessica : Good night.
Jessica : Spinach, lettuce.
Alexis : Yeah.
Alexis : Yes.
Jessica : Especially lettuce right now.
Plant People: Beats.
Alexis : so you
Jessica : No, just kidding.
Alexis : Yeah.
Jessica : Um,
Plant People: Beets and carrots.
Jessica : Yeah.
Alexis : Yeah. Beats, beats.
Jessica : It seems like way hot to do it.
Alexis : Yeah. So you're going to do any of those.
Jessica : Yeah.
Alexis : yeah that it see i know it seems yes to jessica's point it seems really hot um to be doing that but if you haven't ordered your seed yet go grab your seed be prepared if you have your seed now
Jessica : Yeah.
Alexis : prep your soil. And it's been, we've had a really wet year here in Kentucky. So I know that's been hard. So that's. why I'm telling you to, if you can kind of get ahead and prep your soil in between rains when it's hopefully dried out a little bit.
Alexis : then when it's it is time to plant those things, you can go right in and get that done. Or if you're going to do cover crop, um I just got my fall some... or fall cover crop in.
Alexis : So in the mail, so if you're going to do cover crop go ahead and order that seed now so that You can throw that in and if you're wondering when it really depends on what you're sewing, but I would say A solid rule of thumb. And we all know rules of thumb. aren't perfect for everything, but a solid rule of thumb for most areas of Kentucky is going to be mid to late September. um depending on what it is. you know There's some things you can push into mid -October if we have a warm fall. um But yeah, get your...
Alexis : Get your stuff. Go order it.
Jessica : I think we're gonna have to...
Alexis : I mean, mustard this year.
Jessica : reseed all of our carrot seeds just because we've had so much rain.
Alexis : Rain.
Jessica : Um, And so.
Plant People: Which is kind of the opposite problem that we usually have seeding carrots.
Jessica : ah
Alexis : Yeah.
Jessica : Exactly. Yeah.
Plant People: In Kentucky, at least.
Jessica : Uh.
Plant People: and Normally, it's so dry that...
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: they may germinate it's a carrots take forever to germinate and they may germinate they germinate and then you have like the hottest driest you can't do anything and they just just die
Alexis : Yeah.
Jessica : Right. yeah and we tried to be all cutesy and made like seed tapes out of them right out of some of them and then uh but now i'm like well i think we're just gonna go back and like
Plant People: Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm.
Jessica : just mass sprinkle carrot seed everywhere and see what we get because um yeah well normally it's like we're begging for rain at this point of the year anne Um.
Alexis : which reminds me that that is kind of how Brett and I got to know each other is because we were weeding carrots.
Plant People: That's true.
Alexis : Yeah. Yeah. We were putting up high tunnel plastic and waiting for it.
Plant People: we Weeding and thinning, weeding and thinning.
Alexis : Yeah. And I thought he was going to judge me because I said um something about Taylor Swift and I was like, he's definitely going to judge me for liking Taylor Swift. And he did not. And and I think, in fact, he probably started singing the song and I was like.
Plant People: and like I like Taylor or Swift.
Alexis : I was like, we're gonna be friends.
Plant People: I liked her i liked terry older stuff, but... you know. I'm sort of a hipster like that.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: Before she sold out. Yeah. With the first record.
Alexis : With the first round. Oops. um But yes.
Plant People: So I have one and this isn't necessarily for the frost necessarily, but it will be for the freeze
Alexis : All right. Mm -hmm.
Plant People: is if you, and like if you like me, have A variety of apparatuses. That will.
Alexis : and let me
Plant People: Be destroyed by freezing. go ahead and just make like a list for yourself right now just kind of walk around and say okay this little manifold this little connector this whatever needs to be disconnected these hoses um generally speaking it's a good idea to take your hose off of the hose bib because water can back up in there burst your freeze your pipe inside up and decide inside your house now you've got a big or you're barn or whatever, you got a big mess there as well.
Alexis : Smart.
Jessica : The hoses. Yeah.
Plant People: um that's That's one that... That's one that I always find myself doing last minute. And again, I just have this like cold hands. memory running through all of this because it's like trying to unscrew these brass fittings
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: And your hands are shaking and you're trying to. Um, So, yeah.
Alexis : You can't wear gloves because then you can't like twist anything off and yeah.
Plant People: and You can't really grab them. like yeah and or And I'm just... stupid like that that I don't wear the gloves. ah But, um, Yeah. So that's what it, cause it's easy to forget. Like one year I had a little bit of like a, I use rainwater. It kind of collects.
Plant People: ah sediment. And so I had an inline filter to filter some of that sediment so my hose doesn't get clogged. And. I forgot to take that apart and it just. blew up like shattered the the filter no big not a huge deal but i would have liked to have used it for several more years
Alexis : this sister system
Plant People: but um And again, I think... thinking about where you're wanting to put that this is almost like getting to the point of
Plant People: implementing the things that we would have liked to have implemented with the uh row cover like if you had just put it up nice nicely when it first needed to then no problem the same with the hose like i have a spot where i know my hoses go and i've gotten more stuff since then and i know exactly like making sure that that hasn't gotten, ah you know, set of golf clubs or.
Plant People: bike or whatever moved into it that you have space to put all the things
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: Um, That's one that I always. you know not forget about but
Alexis : yeah the store the storage of stuff like you know to that point you know do you need a few more so totes or something to put stuff away you know do you need some storage bins so that you don't have stuff like me i just put it down and what do they say don't put it don't put it down put it back
Plant People: Amen.
Plant People: Put it away. yeah
Alexis : And so, but yeah, put it away. But like, if you don't have a place to put it away, then it sits there and then it's in the way, you know, when you. are you know in and out prepping and doing all this other stuff so you know
Plant People: Yeah, and if you're if you're now and you're sort of like chill and you want to maybe even come in the house where you have some AC. and make some get some tape and make some labels for those totes and things and have those just ready as a place to land i know all this sounds really like obviously in in a perfect world we would all do this but this is the time to take a beat
Alexis : Sure.
Jessica : whole life, right? You know?
Plant People: Yeah.
Jessica : So you get distracted from one room to another sometimes.
Alexis : Yeah. Yeah.
Jessica : so um I keep thinking of like.
Alexis : I just had to... Yeah, you go ahead.
Jessica : Go ahead. oh i was saying i was just i keep thinking like you guys have got me thinking about a lot of other things Of like getting prepped for. Kind of almost like winter or frost or like, you know, a frost is coming, even though it'd be a little too early to do things. but right now but just like on on your radar right of like Like, I don't know if you keep bees, right?
Plant People: No.
Jessica : We're starting to see like, we reach a certain point now where the numbers are going to start declining. And when I say like, it kind of sounds like, oh, like. without like decline, like it's.
Alexis : Naturally.
Jessica : it's just like their natural decline right and it's like
Alexis : Yeah.
Jessica : Oh, we got to really start feeding them a lot like this time of year as we go into the summer, you know, and you made me think of like other kind of tasks.
Alexis : Amen.
Jessica : And one personally that Alexis knows because I was texting her a bunch about is. ah I was thinking frost, colder temperatures. Oh, that's when the deer will be out maybe rubbing their antlers and they destroyed some of my trees last year. So I am already in the process now of like thinking of ways.
Jessica : to protect some of my young trees that i have and wanting to get it done like a month in advance
Alexis : mm -hmm
Alexis : Mm hmm.
Jessica : Because I want it. to be ready for when we start to see those seasonal change.
Alexis : Right.
Jessica : and
Plant People: what does that What does that prep look like?
Jessica : Well, it's going to be an experiment this year. See... So try to keep the deers off my trees. ah they're they're ah They're shorter right now. So a regular tree wrap will not.
Jessica : work right it'll destroy the top film so i'm thinking almost like a um Four electric fence posts put in the ground with chicken wire around. around them, trying to build a whole cage, like a little mini cage around them, just to deter them from rubbing on some of these trees that I want to keep.
Alexis : mm -hmm
Jessica : growing well you know out in the yard but just like as you guys were talking about more like you know, Things that we actually do in the cold or right before a frost that we can do in advance to help make me sort of think of like these other tasks too.
Jessica : that are kind of associated with it. even Even to the... um you know thinking about some of my own flower beds And some things that already kind of look a little spindly or whatever. And that, you know, could I just go ahead and pull those?
Jessica : Now, or, you know, I'm going to let them keep going. And then is that going to be something I'm going to like rush around to pull out before a frost? Because I know if it gets hit by frost, it's going to be melted and gross and nasty, right?
Plant People: Yeah, gross.
Alexis : Mushy.
Jessica : you know
Plant People: Yeah.
Jessica : um Things like that.
Plant People: Well, I have never. i don't i can't remember a time where i saw something that was spindly And I pulled it out and I was like, I wish I hadn't done that.
Jessica : Right.
Plant People: Cause it always feels, it looks a little nicer. It's like tidying up or vacuuming or something.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: It's just like, it just looks a little nicer. It's one area that's not complete chaos when a lot of other things are weeds and everything else are complete chaos. so Yeah, I think that's a good shot. So you mentioned the tree.
Plant People: So you're talking about the deer stuff. But there's also...
Jessica : Mm -hmm.
Plant People: And again, maybe not for the frost, but as we move into the colder times. which idea of tree wrap for young trees. for cold stuff.
Alexis : next
Jessica : Mm -hmm.
Alexis : Mm -hmm.
Plant People: and he thoughts on that.
Alexis : especially like cherries um anything with like a thin bark uh is you know so cherry is like a great example of of a thin bark so they do and young trees you know, obviously are going to have that thinner bark. so
Alexis : they people will wrap them which is like they'll physically use like a usually it's white or they'll use a paint and do a white paint on there just like a water -based and eventually it kind of comes off and the reason for that is as those cells and Jess or Brett, feel free to.
Alexis : correct me here but basically those cells will freeze which is natural right in the winter and then the that's you know southern sun usually it's a southern exposure will hit that tree bark and warm those cells up kind of rapidly and it'll make them burst and then you get those that split in the bark and so we don't see it on older trees because they have ah thicker bark uh except cherries because they are always have a thinner one um And so that cracking can, you know, allow for disease or insects to get in there. So we're basically just trying to keep those cells cold so that they're not, you know, bursting from that, those warm temperatures suddenly.
Plant People: Yeah, it's the particularly like that like gradient on the warm side and the cold side changing at different rates.
Alexis : Mm -hmm.
Plant People: It just.
Alexis : the
Plant People: just sort of
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: Like when you put your... ah drop your ice cubes into your drink and you hear them crack crack crack crack crack crack crack
Alexis : Mm -hmm. Mm hmm.
Plant People: Not exactly the same, but... i got to make that I got to make that sound, at least.
Jessica : Yeah.
Alexis : There's a sign there's this like a thermodynamic scientist out there that's like, this is wrong.
Plant People: question. and
Alexis : This is so wrong. like with The point is we want to deflect the sun, okay?
Plant People: Yeah. and And allow the whole thing to kind of warm up and cool off at at the same rate as the.
Alexis : Right, right. a little bit A little bit slower of a process. So if you do have some young trees that, you know, maybe you're extra worried about or something or have like... you know
Alexis : crazy Southern exposure, and that might be something you want to go ahead and prepare to do. And you can do that, um you know, pretty early that white isn't going, especially the paint. You know, there are trees that are painted. um I'm thinking of the pawpaw nursery at KSU. I think they paint for a couple different reasons, but one of them is the cracking and they're, you know, the trunks are white year round. So like, you're not going to hurt the tree by doing it too early. And if you're like, Alexis, I don't want my tree to be white forever. It does come off. They redo it every year. So ah it just might take some time, but that's the fastest kind of easiest way. that's, you know, pretty inexpensive for a young tree.
Plant People: While we're on... Trees and Woodies. Um... you know we've We've talked about pruning at different points. ah the the primary time when most things get pruned is in The spring kind of just as.
Plant People: things are starting to wake up or just before they're getting ready to wake up. Um, And... The arborists that I know and I've talked to and the things that I've studied, you can prune some.
Plant People: on healthy trees.
Alexis : Mm hmm.
Plant People: year're not year round, but anytime that they're kind of growing or almost about to grow.
Alexis : Mhm.
Plant People: But I think the the main thing is you don't want. to go too much longer to make pruning cuts. For the same reason as the houseplants, like things things are starting to slow down. And so their ability to compartmentalize and heal and.
Alexis : Exactly.
Plant People: you know cut off that area
Alexis : is
Plant People: is starts to be diminished But like for me, for example. I have a couple of trees that have grown really rapidly with all the rain. And I'm a little nervous with the age that they are and the branch angles and things that they're just way too long.
Alexis : it
Plant People: And so if we have an ice storm.
Alexis : Mm -hmm.
Plant People: It's going to weigh those things down, snap off the branches. And so I will be making some pruning kind of.
Alexis : Heading back cuts.
Plant People: heading back cuts yeah i didn't know how i don't know how into it we wanted to get but uh Yeah, so so rather than printing it all the way back to the trunk, I'm going to cut it in the middle of the branch. right in front of a node.
Plant People: Um, which we've talked about nodes in past episodes.
Alexis : Mm hmm.
Plant People: So, but like it's, it's almost, it's, it's like. I almost think about like the. Um, the cycle from like late winter, early spring through August.
Alexis : mm -hmm
Plant People: or through you know kind of a winter it's almost like Think about like the life cycle of like a person or an animal or whatever when you're born. And that in spring. it's growing really fast And when something's growing fast, it tends to be relatively strong, especially after it gets out of that little infantile stage, get into this peak of like adulthood in the middle of summer.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: And it's just like strong pumping out. leaves pumping out everything and then as it starts to go to winter you start to get into old age where your immune system isn't quite as strong you start to slow down you're not moving as fast.
Alexis : Yeah, you recover quickly. Mm hmm.
Alexis : mm -hmm
Plant People: um and so that to me is like how I think about it is I want to prune it at a time where this thing has a good chance to bounce back, which is when this case during this time of year, when it's actively growing still, are there any things that like specifically you prune and fall?
Alexis : and said
Alexis : Well,
Plant People: Sorry. Be grateful.
Alexis : Well, I was just going to say the other thing is if you, you know, to your point of there are some times when you need one me need need to make some kind of heading back cuts or things just, you know, we had a lot of rain this year. So a lot of things just got big quickly.
Alexis : You don't want to do too much of that for multiple reasons. But one is that you'll actually, when pruning late, you'll actually... um Sometimes if... especially if it stays kind of warm a little later, they'll throw out new growth.
Plant People: Yes.
Jessica : aha
Alexis : You're actually just...
Plant People: I was shocked.
Alexis : triggering them to throw out new growth.
Plant People: Yeah. Not too early, not too late.
Alexis : Yeah, yeah. So you don't want to trigger new growth because that new growth is going to die over the winter. It not doesn't have that.
Jessica : use Yeah.
Alexis : waxy cuticle it doesn't you know it's just not prepared for winter um so if you are going to cut back it's almost like a You know, let's say I really want to take off, you know, four inches, um but I'm only going to take off two because.
Alexis : Another two might die back and then I, you know, can prune off that, you know, extra two in the spring or something. So just kind of keep that in mind. um Sometimes, again, it has to be done, but just.
Alexis : Be be wary.
Plant People: And if it doesn't have to be done?
Jessica : question.
Plant People: Just wait.
Alexis : Yeah.
Jessica : Right.
Alexis : Just wait.
Jessica : I feel like I see it a lot with landscaping crews and like boxwoods, right?
Alexis : Right. Oxwoods. Yep.
Jessica : Like they're like the classic example that pops in my mind.
Alexis : And Dina, too, and they get, like, fried.
Jessica : Mm hmm.
Plant People: It's a classic example of they they cut it. And then that little green tip.
Alexis : Amen.
Jessica : it puts yeah it puts up new growth and then they get zapped and turn brown and then
Plant People: And then they turned brown.
Alexis : And then all winter long it's brown.
Jessica : And then it's brown.
Alexis : Yeah, it looks awful all winter.
Jessica : And then beep.
Plant People: It's like you put chocolate icing on it.
Jessica : And then people are upset because it turned brown and like, what's wrong with it?
Alexis : Okay.
Jessica : And it's all because they cut him like too late in the season.
Alexis : It's just new growth. Yeah.
Jessica : And it was the new growth.
Alexis : Yeah. But anything to prune in the fall, I'm trying to think. Most of them are like flowering shrubs. You're pruning, you know, kind of early summer for the most part. There are, you know, some that you could like, I'm thinking like. Hacking back to the ground.
Alexis : Um,
Jessica : Are there some hydrangeas? It's like after they do their summer bloom, that's when you...
Alexis : Yeah.
Jessica : You got to trim them right then. Those are the trickier ones. At least I feel like.
Alexis : Right, right.
Jessica : great
Alexis : It's it's post bloom. But usually you want to do that pretty quickly.
Jessica : Right.
Alexis : And we're at the stage now where everything's, you know, already bloomed out.
Jessica : Yeah.
Jessica : Mm hmm.
Alexis : So we kind of want would have hit those already.
Plant People: Yeah.
Alexis : but um Yeah, there's nothing coming.
Plant People: When?
Alexis : off the top of my head.
Plant People: when does one When does one dig dahlia tubers?
Alexis : ah Um, I mean, technically you can dig them before a a frost or a freeze. um You have to dig them. If you're planning to dig them, you have to dig them before the ground freezes, um which you you normally want to do sooner because back to cold hands, cold, muddy hands.
Plant People: Okay.
Plant People: o
Alexis : um Most people do wait until after like the first hard frost because that above ground part dies back and it's similar to potatoes. It kind of signals the tubers to start putting on a thicker skin, which makes them store better.
Alexis : So that's the reason we. You can dig them early. But I only recommend digging them early if you are experienced in storing them because that skin has not been cured, like a sweet potato or something. That skin has not been cured, therefore it's a lot more likely to rot or dry out in storage.
Alexis : um So by making sure that. you know waiting a little longer you up your chances of Survival over winter.
Plant People: So maybe, maybe a thing to do now would be if you don't know how to store them, don't know how to take care of them, read about that, watch some videos, figure it.
Alexis : Yeah. And get get your media, whatever you're going to store that that stuff in, your get your supplies, go ahead and get those.
Plant People: get just get yeah get the Get the supplies.
Alexis : Again, that can be something that kind of disappears depending on what you're using. When you need it, everybody needs it, right? And so if you can get that early and maybe cheaper. um that's the time to do it and there's a lot of we i think we've done a have we done a dahlia episode i swear we've done a dahlia episode um back in i think we did one on storing at least storing bulbs and and tubers and stuff back in the ah
Jessica : And.
Plant People: I don't know
Alexis : ether we we'll find it and put it in the show notes but if you need to know or have want some ideas on how to store some of that stuff i know we've done an episode on something like that um but there's infinite ways.
Alexis : And as horticulturists just love to say, it depends.
Jessica : and I should say that sweet potatoes are opposite. though, because we want to get them.
Alexis : Mmm. That's true.
Jessica : Just to make note of that, of like. That they they need to be.
Alexis : Thank you. Yeah
Jessica : Out. before the first frost or you want to or if like you get a frost you need to get them out quickly after
Alexis : Yeah. Yeah.
Alexis : Yes. yeah Yeah.
Jessica : after that.
Alexis : I was talking more about like the.
Jessica : Yeah. Actual potato.
Alexis : curing process but yes thank you for clarifying that i i probably made it confusing um
Jessica : Yep. Yeah.
Plant People: I think another, another thing kind of on the more, if you're you know in a business thinking about doing business or just. a fastidious note taker.
Alexis : another
Plant People: i I talk about it as kind of like the... um The hierarchy of. places where records landed. So there's some on the dashboard. There's some in the glove compartment. There's some in that box. There's some that you put into that.
Plant People: ah that seed catalog as a bookmark and just. While you're still somewhat in it and somewhat remembering, just take not you're not asking you to take those things and record them, but take those things and move them to a place, a central place where you can then go back through them once it's cold.
Plant People: If you are. If you maybe have skimped a little bit on some of your field maps or things like that, or you can't remember if and how, where things, certain things went, it's easier to do that when they're still there than to try to go out and look at it. completely barren field. and remember where you had what planted for your rotations just in case you didn't maybe necessarily do that you could do that with a photo you know picture just take a picture of where stuff is Um,
Alexis : Yeah.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: Because when you when once you get into that cabin fever era of... winter, you really want like data. and information of some sort. to ruminate on while you can't do anything else and you're waiting to get back out into the field. And so if you can capture some of that and.
Plant People: That's for me with Bonsai. I have good records.
Alexis : Mm hmm.
Plant People: 98 % of the records are done during the winter when I can't do anything else.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: Um, So.
Alexis : I really like the taking pictures because sometimes it's just like... overwhelming to write everything down but i can take some pictures and look at them and be like oh okay yeah i know my row is You know, I know my row was 50 foot long and I had three different varieties of celosia. So like even even that, you know, depending on how specific you are, but like even that level of.
Alexis : you know Each row fits 500 and I had five varieties. So I had about a hundred of each plant, blah, blah, blah. So it's like, yes, I love the picture taking thing. um
Plant People: And another thing on that same tack. is You may be this winter working on some of your marketing materials for next year. And I can tell you there's nothing more boring for a picture for marketing materials than a winter field that hasn doesn't have anything in it.
Alexis : Great point.
Plant People: or so if you If you have some stuff that's still out and you've slacked a little bit on taking pictures. Go ahead and say, you know what?
Alexis : Mm hmm.
Plant People: It's really hot today. I'm not going to work. I'm going to put on my sun hat. Maybe have ah a nice iced tea.
Alexis : mm -hmm
Plant People: and I'm going to walk around. I'm going to take some pictures and gather that for.
Alexis : Yes.
Plant People: Mike building my campaign like if you for instance, maybe you sell it a farmer's market or CSA or whatever and you want to do that March or April teaser of, we're just this many weeks out from fresh tomatoes.
Plant People: and you have a picture of your fresh tomatoes.
Alexis : Mm -hmm.
Plant People: Well, that was better have been taken this past year. um So that's just another thing, too, of building that repository of that stuff that you don't even necessarily know what you're going to do with it, but you can't take it any other time.
Alexis : Yeah. Yes. That's so smart. videos photos like take all of that stuff you'll you you will use it in the dead of winter or and if you've got um also what i've been trying to do if i've got extras in the cooler that you know maybe are a little too old to sell but still pretty um you know, or tasty or whatever, you know, either give it to somebody and use it as like marketing type stuff. but
Alexis : to your point of, you know, can you use it somehow? Can you make up a fake CSA box or an arrangement to, you know, advertise your CSA or something like that um down the line? that's a Really great reminder, Brett. Yeah, especially when it's hot. A nice tea. Ooh, lovely.
Alexis : Brett, you you're muted yourself. you're You're spitting game right now and you're mute.
Jessica : yeah It's talking away.
Alexis : ah
Plant People: I didn't say anything of value, but I do have another outside ah outside tip here. So. as this is not necessarily for the production or business of doing this but Um,
Plant People: If... You find yourself, we're we're getting ready. Well, I guess by this time and for most people already. School is back in session. The whole... The whole chaos of this time of year.
Plant People: means that weekends and... Other things start to fill up really quickly. If you are wanting... to go and do have an agritourism experience of some sort in Kentucky.
Alexis : Hmm.
Plant People: Go ahead and get that on the calendar. Put it on the calendar.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: We've got great agritourism operations with a lot of cool things. and Um, if you block it out you might be able to tell that friend or family member sorry we got something that day we can't come to your thing that i don't want to go to
Alexis : It's already planned.
Plant People: So. we we remote we weve we booked this We booked this back in August.
Alexis : Oh, I'm so sorry.
Plant People: uh but There will be you pick apples and pumpkins and all that kind of stuff going into the fall. um So that's another for us. There have been a couple of years where.
Plant People: It's just the, this window just vanishes before you realize it. and This is the beauty and the danger of seasonality. Same with the pictures of for the marketing materials and everything else. It's like we got a window of time to take this.
Plant People: so
Alexis : Mhm.
Plant People: Go for it. so Pencil in an agritourism visit. this fall.
Alexis : Yeah. Yeah. Love that. Supporting local. well Anything else you think we've missed, guys, as people are going, OK, what my tip?
Alexis : Just pick one thing. Just pick one thing to do that and then see how you feel. And then if you feel good about that, pick another thing. Like that's what I've been trying to do. Like not looking at the whole list. Just pick one thing.
Alexis : And then I roll from there.
Plant People: Yeah, no, that's i mean I think we covered some really good ones. It's it's a nice... it's nice to like check in mentally, like Jess was saying earlier to like check in mentally about this stuff. And you start to think about, okay, here's the things I need to. think about doing and ordering or.
Plant People: figuring out. Um,
Jessica : I gotta find a place for that lemon tree.
Plant People: Yeah. Figure out that spot.
Jessica : it it
Alexis : Right? It's like that panic. Jessica, I think you needed ah a light for your lemon tree this year. That's the one thing you've not been doing and you've not had the most success. So I think we need to add a light.
Plant People: Hmm.
Jessica : last Last?
Plant People: Shots fired!
Jessica : Time. Last time. Nude.
Plant People: Wasn't there a karate chop or karate move that...
Jessica : that's Yeah, that's what it was, Brett. It was from your your your buddy.
Alexis : but
Jessica : he He karate chopped it. So.
Plant People: Ben.
Jessica : Yeah.
Plant People: Benny boy, my buddy.
Alexis : good
Jessica : It was thriving.
Alexis : yes
Plant People: Look.
Jessica : But it can't be in that spot because it can be easily karate chopped. So that's why we got to find a different spot.
Plant People: we have We have one spot that we know definitively will not work.
Jessica : Even though the light. Light was great. But you could be karate chopped. but
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