Introduction and Hell's Kitchen Overview
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Happy New Year. Oh, I'm glad to hear it. Happy New Year. This is our first episode that we're recording the new year, and I'm so delighted and tickled that it's just you and I, my heart.
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Yeah. and we're talking about one of our favorite bad reality competition shows. We're talking about Hell's Kitchen.
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Yeah. Yeah. The show that Gosh, I should have looked up who said this, but who said that it was the the worst show that they'd watched every episode of.
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And that's always resonated with me about Hell's Kitchen. Yes. Yes, it was someone in the AV club. That much I remember. And yeah, that always really stuck with me.
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Listeners, if you haven't seen Hell's Kitchen, and it's been on for nearly 20 years, i don't know how
Discovering Hell's Kitchen
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you've missed it. Actually more than 20, but here's just a short summary of Hell's Kitchen to hold in your mind.
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Internationally acclaimed chef Gordon Ramsay is searching for a new head chef from one of his many restaurants. And so, year after year, he orchestrates an elaborate contest where 16 or so chefs will compete to see who has what it takes survive Hell's Kitchen.
Gordon Ramsay's Journey
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Yep, that's ah that's pretty much the long and short of it. Do you remember how you came across Hell's Kitchen? Oof. No. I feel like i must have shown it I feel like it's always been there. Probably. Yeah.
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I feel like that's when I started watching the, you know, the Ramsey go round. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Fox keeps him in a very steady rotation.
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Yeah. You can't say the man doesn't work. No, absolutely not. And he's got a restaurant empire. My God. Yeah.
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And like a family of eight or something. Yeah. ah But i I remember watching it from the first season.
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i remember watching with Matt Finnegan. He was the one that told me about it. And we ended up watching some of it together. And I know specifically it was from the first season because I remember both of us laughing at there being a guy named Dewberry. And that one of the contestants was named Dewberry.
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Oh, wow. And he just gave the vibes of being a Dewberry. ah like ah ah Like a Shakespearean rustic? i Very much so.
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Do you want to hear the research I put into old Hell's Kitchen? sure do, babe. Yeah. All right. as me Let's get it going. Thrill me! Thrill Thrill me!
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I wish I had some context About the background of the film Script director and who's on set What's going on on screen I wanna
Reality Show Comparisons
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hear some details Gossips can do all that shit Can't imagine all the time
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So, Hell's Kitchen premiered on May 30th, 2005. Wow. 20 and a half years ago. There's been 24 seasons since then.
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Yeah, a television institution. It was created and hosted, and still is, by Gordon Ramsay. Obviously, the defining icon of Hell's Kitchen.
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Yes. So who is Gordon Ramsay? Gordon Ramsay was born in a small town in Scotland in 1966, but moved to Stratford-upon-Avon at age nine.
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His father was allegedly a violent alcoholic, but young Gordon showed a talent for soccer and hoped to use that as a vehicle to escape. Unfortunately, a serious knee injury put a stop to those dreams.
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And at age 16, he left home. And by 19, he had enrolled at the North Oxford Shire Technical College to study hotel management, which he included catering and and cooking. Yeah. And he had worked as like a pot washer in an Indian restaurant when he was a kid.
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From there, he started working in hotel kitchens at hotels
Standard Elements of Hell's Kitchen
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across England. Yeah. In his early 20s, he moved to the French Alps to work at a ski resort.
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At age 23, he moved to Paris and worked under Michelin-starred chefs Guy Savoy and Joël Robuchon.
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He wanted to learn French cuisine from the masters. Obviously, two great picks. After a few years in French kitchens, he was feeling kind of burnt out, though. Obviously, they worked them very hard in France.
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And so he moved on to be a chef on a private yacht called the Idlewild. And the Idlewild ended up sailing mostly around Sicily and Sardinia, affording Ramsey the opportunity to study Italian cuisine.
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Oh, yeah. Sicily really a, yeah you know... culinary universe in Tennessee. Yeah, yeah. e Now, after that, Ramsey returned to England, where he quickly became a force to be reckoned with. In 1998, he opened his first restaurant, Restaurant Gordon Ramsey, in Chelsea.
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In 2001, Restaurant Gordon Ramsey had won its third Michelin star, making Ramsey the first Scotsman to ever achieve that honor.
Character Archetypes in the Show
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This was how Ramsay broke into TV. There was a four-part BBC miniseries documenting his quest for three Michelin stars called Boiling Point, obviously also being named after his famous temper.
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That's something that um is also very in the French culinary tradition. like oh yes kind of extremely a hostile,
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ah or at least, or at least it it can be hard to tell how much of it. I think some of it is kayfabe to be honest. um But I think that comes from. yo i issue I think there's going to be a lot of discussion of kayfabe when you talk about hell's kitchen. I think this is very much our professional wrestling around our house.
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yeah first sir For sure. But I do think that, um yeah, someone who is comfortable in a conflict heavy mode of communication, I think is going to thrive in a French kitchen and would bring that back with him. And obviously, if you know, I think that explains a lot of what you see of Gordon Ramsay.
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ah His quick wit, fiery temper and puckish charm quickly made him a TV star. Boiling Point was followed up the following year with Beyond Boiling Point.
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But then Ramsey really found his niche in the year 2004. That year marked the debut of the two tentpoles upon which Ramsey would build his televisual empire.
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That year, Gordon Ramsey starred in the inaugural seasons of Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares and Hell's Kitchen. Wow. Wow. Yeah, two in one year.
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Now, these were, of course, both the British versions, and they have a few formal and stylistic differences from their more successful American reimaginings. But they do feature the one key ingredient that serves as the foundation for every great Gordon Ramsay show.
The Appeal of the Show's Format
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All the best Gordon Ramsay shows will feature Gordon Ramsay yelling at a professional in the food service industry for being terrible at their jobs.
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That's the foundation. Yeah. This is someone who is good at their job yelling at someone who is bad at their job. i think Gordon Ramsay largely serves as catharsis for a lot of his audience. I think that is his main appeal.
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No. Yeah. i think I think that makes a lot of sense that, yeah, as I'm jumping on what you were going to say, but like, Many of us at least you know fancy ourselves to be to be competent. And ah yeah yeah, you can't just yell at all the incompetent people that you encounter during a day because that's not how society works, but that is how Hell's Kitchen works.
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Yes, it it really is a power fantasy. Mm-hmm.
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Now, of course, he doesn't yell on every show that he has. ah Notable exceptions include MasterChef and MasterChef Junior. He doesn't really yell at anyone there, except he will yell at them at the one challenge where they take over a restaurant because they're there they are in a professional context. And there he's like, if you are in a professional kitchen, i get to yell at you.
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And, you know, and sort of the the undercurrent of menace as, you know, Gordon, as this mean figure who is ready to unleash a torrent of cuss words at you, I think, makes the gentleness of these other shows. it it it lends them weight, I think.
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Now, yelling at people in service industries is as American as apple pie. So it only makes sense that Fox would try to bring these shows over to our fair shores.
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So on May 30th, 2005, Hell's Kitchen premiered in the U.S. It has, as of this recording, had 25 seasons. I believe it's currently airing the 25th season, might be the 24th.
Challenges and Rewards
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ah But it's showing no signs of slowing down. No. I mean, it's got... Why why would it? it has It has an incredibly reliable formula, and there's yeah there's always there's always a casting pool, and there's always there's always food, you know? i just feel like... Yeah, it's always relevant. so reliable Yeah, it's always relevant, because people always Yeah.
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Yeah. And it's got to be so cheap to make other than Gordon Ramsey, everything else in this show. Like it used to be, they'd like fly the contestants around the world, but now they're shooting in like Connecticut and they're like, we'll drive up to Boston for the afternoon.
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they're like, Whoa, Boston. No, no disrespect to Boston, but you know, like they've obviously they've trimmed their budget in a way that makes this must be so profitable. Look, I'll say though, that there are,
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Speaking of filming in Connecticut, their excursion to, you know, a local, ah like, native... ah Yeah, native historical museum. Yeah, yeah. Because it's i am sure taking place on the Foxwoods Casino.
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But it was also, like, cool and interesting. So, yeah, I'm sure that's probably on the property of the Foxwoods casino. They didn't even have to drive anybody.
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I'm just like today you're good just going to go walking around the museum. and they're like Okay, cool. As long as I'm not, you know, digging through fish guts to make a milkshake that I have to drink. That sounds great.
Memorable Moments and Ramsay's Persona
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So other game shows and reality competition shows that premiered in 2005, just to put a thing in its place. Here's what Hell's Kitchen was up against in the back of the day. In the back.
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Back in the day. Back in the day. Back in the day. Back of the day. You had This year was the premiere of Iron Chef America.
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Oh, okay. Okay. obviously he was never able to eclipse the original iron chef in terms of, you know, everything, but still a fantastic show in its own. Right.
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You also also got the ultimate fighter.
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And I think interesting there is that those are both ultimate fighter and hell's kitchen are both shows where people like all lived in a house. Hell's kitchen is one of the few shows that still uses the, we all you live in a house together element.
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You also got deal or no deal. Howie Mandel's guess what's in the box. Or has it like, I feel like maybe that went away and came back in the.
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Yeah, I'm sure it got rebooted at some point. 20 years is. ah
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I think you can be forgiven for not knowing the finer details of or no deals evolution, my dove. Well, thank you. You also got So You Think You Can Dance and Dancing with the Stars.
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I think Dancing with the Stars has a better legacy. I'm sorry? Those are both still on. Yeah. ah oh oh So You Think You Can Dance is still going?
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I believe it. You
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you also got Cash Cab. The the icon. Yeah. Always dream of hopping in the Cash Cab. Over on MTV, you got Next, the dating game show Next.
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And, of course, on the Food Network, in addition to Iron Chef America, you can see the sort of proto Food Network. This is all when they were beginning to experiment with the idea of competitive food shows. But over there, you got the Next Food Network star, the show that gave us Guy Fieri.
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Oh, okay. Not a lot of people know he won season two of the next Food Network star. That's his origin story. yes Well, do you want to talk about the plot or ah what happens in Hell's Kitchen? yes as i was able to summarize instead in I know you're going to have, I know you will have done something incredible.
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So I'm very excited to hear what it is. No pressure.
Rating Hell's Kitchen: Is it Watchable?
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Plot bumper, listen to me. I'm gonna give you the plot summary. Come on, baby. Here's the synopsis.
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Plot bumper, plot bumper.
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All right, so the plot of every season of Hell's Kitchen is essentially the same in in the broadest of strokes. And so what I've done is I've tried to just summarize a season of Hell's Kitchen, what you could expect to see happen.
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Okay, kind of the botanic ideal. Yeah, yeah. Breaking it down to to whatever is casting the shadow on the cave wall. And I think that Dedication to maintaining a formula is part of what makes Hell's Kitchen such great second screen TV or dishwashing TV, whatever you want to think of it as. Yeah. You know, it's interesting.
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Many of those reality shows you mentioned, the ones that are still, the ones that are still on, I think do have very reliable formulas and also formulas that don't date in the same way. and Yeah. Like now you mentioned next and that, that is like the most 2005 show you can imagine. Like you could not do that. Yeah.
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No, I think dating culture has changed too much.
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So the pilot of every season is largely concerned with introducing all the characters that we're going to be spending the rest of the season with. Obviously we meet our host slash judge slash head chef, Gordon Ramsey.
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We'll also meet the Mater of our fictional restaurant, Hell's Kitchen, which does invite in guests, you know, but they're just like a hundred extras who get paid in food.
Blind Taste Test Challenge
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Yeah. So the Mater D will serve as sort of the comic foil to Ramsey and also act as like a ah proxy for the front of house whenever they need to have like a front of house issue serve as a dramatic moment.
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Your Mater D will be the representative of what's going on there. I believe he's Belgian. Well, he's had a couple different ones. He's had Jean-Philippe. Yeah, I think one was Belgian. One was Italian. Moreno, I think, was Italian.
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ah ah We'll also meet Ramsey's two sous chefs. He'll have different sous chefs every season, one for each team. Sometimes they're ah past contestants. Other times they've just guys that have worked with Ramsey for a while.
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After that, we'll meet all of our contestants. You know, our contested pool will consist of roughly 16 professional chefs working in different capacities in the industry. Some of them might be a head chef at a fancy restaurant. Somebody might be, you know, a line cook.
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Somebody might be the chef at an old folks home. There was one. Yeah. You know, sometimes there is the. To me, dubious profession of private chef, which I guess just means you freelance cook for rich people.
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It seems like it's probably a very miserable ah way to try to make a living. Yeah. And also, like, you just know how to cook for, like, one person. You know, you know what that guy likes, you know? Yeah. That would be tough.
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Yeah, and I think in the first like two seasons, they also let amateur chefs come on. And after that, Ramsey was like, we got to we got get rid of those guys.
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Yeah. I can't just be telling random dudes to go fuck themselves if they don't know how to mince cloves or Now, the teams will always be divided into men versus women.
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ah except for maybe like one or two exceptions. But even with those like three episodes in, he's like, I'm going back to men versus women. Right. Yes. Yes. Always, always falls back on that. And, and I mean, it's not pink versus blue, but it is red versus blue.
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Like it it, it is an extremely, conservative show in that way
Iconic Ramsay Insults Quiz
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and it is i do think it's important to note that it is quite racist but oh yeah like i think that i think that the racism of hell's kitchen and more specifically a lot of it comes from the white contestants on hell's kitchen uh is very like I don't know. It like keeps you aware of like the realism of things. And I think probably the realism of kitchens, you know what I mean? Yeah.
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And it is also some of like the only network television that you and I watch. Like this is our connection to like normal people. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. That's true. That's true. But yeah, the the team setup is always, yeah, sort of like charmingly retrograde and like vaguely sleazy, you know.
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but You know that what you're seeing is sort of exploitative. So you might as well, like, if you're getting a wrestle in the mud, you might as well get dirty, you know. And obviously this format inherently excludes any non-binary contestant from any ever coming on the show.
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Just right off the bat, that should be mentioned. Now the cast will largely be filled with stock characters who will come in and out of vogue over the years.
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You know, like they'll, they'll try and cast different types. the The classic was the overly confident Italian guy. Yeah. For a good, like 12 season run. There was always one guy. He was like, I'm going to bring this one home for the boot, baby. going to give you a sauce of making my grandma cry. And then they'd have a pasta challenge and he'd always fuck it up. It was always great.
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You'd also have always a woman that hates women. Yeah. Yeah. You'd also have a man that always, a man that hates women. Always going to have one of those. on this Not just one.
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No, no, that that'll probably be at least a third of the male team. Now that's been cutting down. but you do have I feel like the younger generations have been a little bit less sexist.
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Yeah, more but you will often have one guy where like, you know, a lot of them might be misogynist, but one guy misogyny is his thing. Yeah. Yeah. Like the other guy's Italian. He's like, I don't like dames.
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Yeah. I don't think a woman belongs in a professional kitchen. You're like, are oh, fuck
Fictional Awards for Hell's Kitchen
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you. I don't know what to tell you, brother. um Let's see. You also have a classically trained chef that assumes that they have it in the bag.
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You'll have a very loud person from either the South or Boston. And they'll have a meltdown by episode six. there'll be a guy that's really horny and sucks.
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yeah That's too horny to do his job. There will be a black woman with an incredible work ethic that works harder than anyone else on the show. And there will also be a gay person who will have the second best work ethic. on Yeah. Yeah. And, but weirdly, a lot of people will feel like the black woman has an attitude that they can't quite articulate.
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but there's two They don't want to say uppity, but they want to say uppity. And then there's ah also always a short lady that doesn't understand why everybody else doesn't have their shit together.
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you know For a while, there was also like mildly competent Asian woman that would get eliminated by like the third episode, but they stopped casting her somewhere around season four.
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But you know, you have all these sort of stock characters. So normally when you're watching this pilot episode, you can tell, you might not be able to tell who's going to win, but you can pick out probably the first six people who are going to get eliminated right off the bat.
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Yeah. Yeah. You can, yeah. The dead weight is obvious. Both, both the dead weight and the, okay, you're not going to win, but you're going to stick around longer because you're, you're,
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colorful in some way by which I mean, you know, can be exploited to seem insane or dramatic. Yeah. And you can always, the the winner is almost inevitably the person in the first episode who is least interesting. That doesn't fuck up cooking anything that day.
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So you don't have to wait too long for them to start cooking because the first episode always starts with a signature dish challenge where all the chefs get 45 minutes to cook anything they want.
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Some will get overambitious. A couple will do well. Some are just really bad at cooking. Ramsay all scores them some amount of points. And then we're off to dinner service.
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There may or may not be a punishment in this first episode. i Yes, that's important to reiterate that this is a reality show in which teams are explicitly punished.
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That is the word. Yes. is Okay, you're all being punished now for losing this challenge.
Episode Conclusion and Teaser
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And they're always... A lot of the punishments are just like hard, disgusting physical labor.
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Yes. More on the punishments to come. Okay. Okay. ah So this pilot dinner service, it'll feature the two teams in opposing kitchens.
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ah Each team member gets assigned to one of four stations to cook. You got meat station, fish station, appetizer station, or garnish station.
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Appetizer and garnish are always considered your easy stations. Both kitchens will prepare meals for a restaurant full of diners who are extras that get paid in food. Based on their performances in the dinner service, Ramsay will select one chef to eliminate from the competition. And that's the end of episode one.
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For the rest of the season, all the episodes are more or less structurally and functionally the same until we get to the finale. You'll have a brief recap sequence at the beginning of every show, which will then go to a challenge. And the recaps are narrated. I want to mention our narrator here, Jason Thompson. He has a very great voice.
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And I believe he got the gig. He was an editor on Hell's Kitchen for 77 episodes. And I think from there, he went to full time just being the narrator. Now, first you get your recap and then you go to a challenge.
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And then based on how the challenge goes, you'll get a reward for the winning team and a punishment for the losers and then dinner service and then an elimination ceremony. That's every episode. Yeah.
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So every episode starts in media res. It's always Jason Thompson says, and now the continuation of Bill's Kitchen.
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And then all the chefs are, ah they're assembled in the dining room after the previous episode's elimination ceremony. And ah then Gordon Ramsay tells all the chefs, get the hell out of here.
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And they all sort of scurry off back to the dorms, which they live in above the restaurant. I believe they traditionally build Hell's Kitchen in just some sort of warehouse.
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That makes sense.
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They all talk about how glad they were glad they are to have survived and how they feel about the eliminated contestant, whether happy they're gone or they're going to miss them or what.
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And we get to see a little bit of them interacting with each other, see how they bounce off each other, get to know their characters a little bit. They'll normally be a lot of drinking and smoking and staying up late in the dorms.
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Which is unfortunate because they will inevitably be woken up way too early by like a marching band or clowns with air horns or just a mean chef banging pots and pans, yelling at them, telling them that it's time to start the next challenge.
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You know, things that are probably possibly against the Geneva Convention. I don't know. I haven't read too closely, but... Yeah, sleep deprivation is a very important part of the gumbo of Hell's Kitchen and putting these people under pressure that will produce.
00:30:43
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I think that sleep deprivation and alcohol are the twin pillars upon which all of modern reality shows rest. Yes, or at least the ones that take place in a house.
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Yeah. Yeah. And this also is one of the few places on network television where you can still see people blasting cigs because like half of them are line chefs who are clearly like... Right. Yeah, you are not going to get... Yeah, you are not going to get chefs not to smoke. I think they're one of your smoking-est professions.
00:31:17
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Yeah, especially 16 chefs that would willingly come on Hell's Kitchen. when These are people who are not necessarily making great decisions. Yeah. Let's see.
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Get the hell out of here. The challenge. So the challenge will pit our teams against each other in a contest of skill that will normally involve some sort of party game or an oversized prop that will influencing the cooking contest that will immediately follow.
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Think rolling giant dice on oversized craps table, but the dice have different types of fish on them or You know, ah digging through a ball pit to find fennel inside a gacha pie. That sort of thing.
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Then they have to cook a particular cuisine or dish. Some sort of constraints that they've been given by Gordon Ramsay. Like, today we're all cooking Chinese. Today you have to do barbecue. Today I want a brunch dish.
00:32:12
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Whatever he says. Today you two have to go head to head and you have to use the same ingredient. Things like that. yeah And then either Ramsey will judge it himself or he'll bring in a special judge, some sort of other fancy chef that lives within, I'm going to say, an hour's drive of wherever they're filming. A subject matter expert.
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He doesn't judge like a Chinese or Thai competition himself. Like he brings in a Chinese or Thai chef that he knows because it's not like he doesn't know a million of them.
00:32:44
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Yeah, it's true. Or like they did a fried chicken contest and they had like the, an executive from church's chicken come by. They'll, they'll do, they'll bring in some weird people sometimes.
00:32:56
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ah Now, 95% of the time, there'll only be one point difference between the two teams going up to the final tasting to keep the tension up in a way that is statistically unlikely in a way that after 24 seasons,
00:33:09
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pushes my credulity but that's the k-fame that's part of the k-fame yeah yeah well i ah the the order that dishes are presented is definitely edited i think that's entire i i think the scores are are largely just sort of arbitrarily assigned wow not rigorous maybe you know like something because he's judging them on a scale of one to five and he knows that by the end he wants it to be you know this or that so he knows how much he can give everybody you know so he maybe bumps one up to a four bumps one down to a three you know within the margins you could definitely keep that tension shaving points is that what shaving points is Shaming points would be if the contestants were doing it. If you're there, going have a little salt to this down to a three.
00:34:12
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and Now the winning team will be rewarded with something like a fancy meal with Gordon Ramsay at a nearby fancy restaurant or going go-karting or going to a spa.
00:34:24
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But the real reward is always getting to avoid the punishment. aha The punishments almost always involve either backbreaking labor or doing something disgusting or both.
00:34:37
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Yeah. The experience of being on hell's kitchen is already designed as a mild form of psychological de torture on the contestants. And the punishments are where that gets sort of kicked up a notch.
00:34:50
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Uh, A lot of the challenges, rewards, and punishments have been reused over the years and have become iconic in their own right. Some classic challenges include the Taste It, Now Make It challenge, where Gordon Ramsay will prepare a dish for them and they need to go back and remake it and guess the ingredients that are in it.
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And of course, the Blind Taste Test challenge. More on that later. Yes. ah Classic punishments include fiddly prep work, like hauling like shucking a bunch of corn or stuff like that. Or a bunch of oysters. Or a bunch of oysters.
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Yeah, yeah. just Grinding a bunch of flour for bread. you know Churning butter. Other bad ones are cleaning the dorms. They always hate cleaning the dorms because they always...
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don't clean up after themselves and they don't notice that no one else is cleaning up. race
00:35:54
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There's also just like the garbage milkshake, which they used to do a lot of, which they don't any really do anymore, but they're like, we're just going to put a bunch of shit in blender and you got to drink it. oh And the one that the contestants say is the worst is delivery day where they just need to haul in like 50 pound sacks of rice from a box truck that's out in front.
00:36:16
Speaker
It's just backbreaking physical work. Yeah. Iconic rewards include flying to a nearby city on a private jet. ah Spa day, the spa day will always be like the women's team, but one guy will be there and he'll be like, i got a manicure and I, I thought it was good.
00:36:36
Speaker
Yeah. And, uh, or just a trip to a pool or a beach where you'll get to see the women's team all in bikinis or they go like ride around on an ATV or ride horses or something.
00:36:50
Speaker
They do that kind of stuff. Little field trips. Yeah, kind of like what's camp activities. Exactly. Like, so if your parents pay the extra 50 bucks, you can hop on the bus. We're going to go into town and hop on a flume ride, like that kind of stuff.
00:37:09
Speaker
But once they get back from their reward and they're done with the punishment, we're off to the dinner service of the episode. The two teams each get a one kitchen to serve half the restaurant.
00:37:22
Speaker
Things invariably go poorly with Ramsey becoming increasingly incensed, and about one-third of the time he will kick out one or both teams from the kitchen or eliminate a contestant right on the spot.
00:37:38
Speaker
Either way, eventually, the service will come to an end after everyone's been thoroughly insulted and dressed down. And either one or both teams will be selected to ah select nominees for elimination.
00:37:55
Speaker
Be like, go up to the dorms. I want two people for elimination from both teams. And you'll see the teams all like sitting around, ah you know, that glass top table in the back patio, blasting cigarettes, being like,
00:38:12
Speaker
I think Alan really fucked up the risotto. Yeah. Alan did fuck up that risotto. Well, you fucked up the salmon. I'm not saying I didn't fuck up the salmon. I'm saying Alan fucked up the risotto.
00:38:30
Speaker
And it's just that conversation over and over again of people being like, I'm not saying I didn't screw up. I'm saying the other guy screwed up. Uh, You know, the exact kind of thing where you're like, I can't wait for Gordon Ramsay to get up in front of all these idiots and be like, all of you screwed up.
00:38:48
Speaker
All of you should go home.
00:38:56
Speaker
Then Ramsay calls him back down. He's like, who did you nominate? And they say, oh, we nominated Alan and the guy that fucked up the salmon. And Gordon Ramsay will say, Alan.
00:39:10
Speaker
why should you stay in hell's kitchen? And Alan will be like, I'm a fighter chef. You haven't seen everything from me yet. I know I fucked up the risotto, but I bounced back.
00:39:22
Speaker
I bounced back chef. That's what I do. And I'm a fighter and you need a general. And then Gordon Ramsey be like, Alan, give me your jacket.
00:39:35
Speaker
And then Alan will come forward and he'll say, and now put it back on. You're out of here. Guy who fucked up the salmon. He always does the Gordon Ramsey. You're not eliminated.
00:39:48
Speaker
Like about 50% of the time enough where you genuinely have to like read his rhythms to know which one he's doing on any given an episode.
00:39:59
Speaker
You do learn, like, it does become, i do think it becomes increasingly common that when the women's team puts up the Black woman that they think has an attitude, it does become more common for him to be like, to look at the team and be like, why did you put her up here?
00:40:21
Speaker
You know what I mean? Back in line! Yeah. Yeah, he does he does sort of smell when one of the teams is turning on one of their own for personality when there was someone who clearly did a worse job. And he does he does call them out for that. Kudos to you, Gordon.
00:40:38
Speaker
Don't let them, you know, cover their racism, their institutional racism on Hell's Kitchen. ah But yeah, then Gordon Ramsay will take the jacket from the eliminated person and he'll say something like, Alan was a great chef at his firehouse.
00:40:59
Speaker
It's too bad he didn't have a flame for cooking. And then he'll ah like jam a meat hook through his jacket and the meat hook is hanging in front of a photograph, a headshot of the contestant and the headshot will burst into flames and then roll credits.
00:41:19
Speaker
And then that, ah that continues pretty much up to the finale. ah
00:41:27
Speaker
but Except for one other episode where ah the teams get dissolved somewhere around like three or four episodes from the finale. And the remaining chefs are all judged individually from that point on. They put on black jackets and it's the black jacket ceremony. Black jackets are very culturally important to Hell's Kitchen.
00:41:51
Speaker
Do the Hell's Kitchen culture. Yeah, they're part of, you know, they're iconic, I want to say. ah so contestants will continue to be eliminated until two are left for the finale.
00:42:07
Speaker
The two that are in the finale will conscript teams for themselves from their fallen comrades, and they will cook their own menu in one final night in Hell's Kitchen. Ramsey then chooses the winner on that final diverse based on that final dinner service. And they get announced in another spectacular ceremony that involves two sets of doors, one of which is locked.
00:42:32
Speaker
Yeah. Both stand in front of the doors and only one door will open the winner's door. It's, it's weird, but they've done it for so long that you're like, well, I guess is what they settled on. This is what we're doing.
00:42:44
Speaker
It's fine. And then the winner is announced. Commincerations to the person who came in second place. Champagne bottles pop. Confetti falls from the ceiling.
00:42:55
Speaker
And the season is over. Hell's Kitchen.
00:43:01
Speaker
So, what did you think of Hell's Kitchen? Final thoughts. Five star ratings in terms of watchability and ratings. Where would you put Hell's Kitchen? Hell's Kitchen.
00:43:13
Speaker
I would put it at i would put it at a four, God, maybe even a four and a half on watchability because as I quoted at the beginning, it is the worst show that I've watched every episode of.
00:43:30
Speaker
and And, you know, that that really speaks a lot to... it it It is just very, it's so easy to watch, particularly once you have seen several seasons of it and learn learn the rhythms of the show. it it it Yeah.
00:43:50
Speaker
The formula of it, like it's not just a formula, it really is it really is a rhythm because there are, you know, there highs and lows. There are you know, Ramsey's fake outs and the way that he speaks, you know, you learn the way that he speaks. And um so, so coming back to every season is ah you know, coming back to a new variation um,
00:44:22
Speaker
you know, i don't know. It's like seeing a Shakespeare play with different actors. Yeah. I could see that. It's both not new at all and it is new. um And that, that really is watchability. um Weirdness.
00:44:44
Speaker
Weirdness is very hard for me to judge because it is something I've been watching for the better part of 20 years. Yeah. um But I feel like I feel like it is incredibly mainstream.
00:44:58
Speaker
um So that suggests to me that its weirdness is probably it, too. Yeah, that seems about right. i landed in pretty much the exact same place as you might. do I'd put it at a four in terms of watchability. you get some You get some freaks, you get some heroes, you get some villains, you get some cooking, you get some spectacle. They certainly worked out a successful formula and they stick to it.
00:45:26
Speaker
You know what I mean? this is This is like going to McDonald's. You know what you're getting and you know that you're going to like it. Yeah. Weirdness. I gave it a two and a half.
00:45:38
Speaker
There's sort of little odd moments here and there when sort of the tightly controlled production cracks and some weird stuff gets through, you know, you have to, you have to keep an eye out for it. You have to find it.
00:45:50
Speaker
But obviously with like, I'm going to say there's been 371 episodes. Yeah. According to IMDB right in front of me.
00:46:01
Speaker
So that means that's got to be close to 250 hours. I'm going to say worth of content.
00:46:11
Speaker
there's Weird stuff is going to slip through there. And the producers know that when something weird happens, that it's does make it more interesting. They let it go through, but it's in there. I do remember that time that lady took the ah spaghetti out of the trash and served it. Yeah. Like the time a lady took the spaghetti out of the trash. Yeah. You're going to see people like crack under pressure in weird ways, because it is also weird that you are seeing people be psychologically tortured for your amusement.
00:46:40
Speaker
There is certainly something mildly dystopian about Hell's Kitchen.
00:46:46
Speaker
But yeah, I don't know. i i don't even know how mild it is. I mean, I guess they are there voluntarily. Yeah. I would say would call less dystopian than say the NFL. Yeah.
00:47:00
Speaker
Well, that's fair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, but listeners with that, we can move on to act three of the show and we have something very exciting happening. It's a new year.
00:47:15
Speaker
We're breaking new ground for us in terms of format. We've done a pre-tape segment. Anna and i have done our own taste test challenge and I hope that you like it.
00:48:17
Speaker
Before we recorded the show Now we're gonna play it I hope you like it Free tape, free tape, free tape Free tape, free tape, free tape
00:48:50
Speaker
Alright, hello listeners. Welcome to our first ever pre-taped segment and our first ever blind taste test challenge. Yes, indeed. i'm very, very excited. Yes, I think every true Hell's Kitchen fan has always watched the Blind Taste Test Challenge and said, I could crush that. Yeah. So we're going to go. i have four things from around our house that I am going to give to Anna.
00:49:19
Speaker
Anna is currently wearing a blindfold. yes And they are going to have to tell me what they think they are tasting. It is nothing complicated. is a single item.
00:49:31
Speaker
It is nothing... ah that I've done anything crazy to. It is nothing dangerous. All right. So, sweetie, if you could cover your ears and maybe hum to yourself, and I'm going to whisper into the microphone what this is.
00:49:52
Speaker
Okay. right, so you can just hold out your hand because I put my ingredients into a little jam jars. So you can just knock it back and you don't knock it back like a shot, but you're trying to swallow it though. Just pour it in your mouth like it's food.
00:50:09
Speaker
It might have gotten stuck in there actually because they've all been in the fridge. Let me get the, do you want to, no, a spoon a little bit. Okay.
00:50:21
Speaker
They're tasting it now.
00:50:33
Speaker
Um... Pear? That was cherries. Okay. Okay, yeah, I can see that. Those were the frozen cherries we had in the freezer.
00:50:44
Speaker
Okay. Alright, so no points so far. On to number two.
00:50:52
Speaker
Okay, yeah, we'll go for this one here. Here we go.
00:51:03
Speaker
Okay. All right, ah here you are, my love. This
00:51:14
Speaker
is a tricky one. I'm going to tell you right now it's a tricky one. Mm-hmm. Um...
00:51:24
Speaker
A pine nuts? Correct. That was pine nuts. Good job. A point on the board. Ding. All right. Let's see if we can keep this streak going. this This one, I think, ought to be right up your alley. If you want to cover your ears real quick.
00:51:39
Speaker
Okay. Let's see. Tortilla chips. Okay. All right. Give me your hand. Here you are, my love.
00:51:56
Speaker
can hear that satisfying crunch.
00:52:08
Speaker
Oh, tortilla chips. Correct. That was tortilla chips. Two points for you, my heart. You're doing great.
00:52:21
Speaker
All right. Last one. Let's if can go out with a bang. Cover your ears real quick. Okay.
00:52:32
Speaker
Okay, here you are, my heart. Let's see if you can go three for four.
00:52:44
Speaker
It's stuck in the jar, ladies and germs. That's an apple. Correct. It was a grainy Smith apple. Oh, my God, listeners. All right, now we're going to trade places. Okay. And we're going to see if i can do better than three. That's a tough record to beat. It is.
00:53:04
Speaker
I believe in you, sweetie. What did you think of my ingredients? Were they fair? Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool.
00:53:12
Speaker
All right, I am completely blindfolded. Make sure that you're getting right up on top of the microphone, because from that position it can be tough. going angle a little more towards you. Okay.
00:53:24
Speaker
Okay. right, let me know when I need to cover my ears.
00:53:30
Speaker
Boy, I really can't see a thing in this blindfold. Yeah.
00:53:38
Speaker
Okay. Okay. Number one.
00:53:49
Speaker
All right. Okay. I'm going to feed it to you when it's born. Okay. Okay.
00:53:57
Speaker
I don't know how Gordon does this. You don't have to Ah.
00:54:09
Speaker
I was expecting leaves. i was not expecting a mouthful of leaves.
00:54:16
Speaker
Okay. Ah. yeah Okay. It's red water it's very abrasious.
00:54:28
Speaker
That's got to be i Italian parsley. No. Oh, was it cilantro? It was. ah Ah. I zigged when I should have zagged.
00:54:39
Speaker
Yep. Okay. All right. you Ready for number two? Hang on. I still got cilantro in my mouth. Okay. That was probably the wrong one to start with. That's okay. That's okay. I'm good.
00:54:51
Speaker
Okay. All right. i'll go my Hang on.
00:54:55
Speaker
Okay, okay This is not leaves okay Oh, oh It's truly unpleasant That's okay
00:55:09
Speaker
this is not leaves okay all
00:55:19
Speaker
hu it's truly unpleasant
00:55:30
Speaker
I think... Was that... Was that an orange? That was a lime! Oh! I was wondering where our lime went. I was looking for lime. I was God, is that an effed up orange? Okay.
00:55:46
Speaker
I overthought it. Okay, well, there is still some lime in the fridge. like I'll show it to you after this. Okay, yeah, that salsa could use it. Okay. Oh, God, just a mouthful of lime. Okay.
00:55:58
Speaker
i thought I thought we weren't doing mean foods, but okay. I didn't think it was mean. Yeah, used all the time you see me just eat a lime. It was just a little teeny bit.
00:56:11
Speaker
Okay, okay, number three. Let me cover my ears. these the The next two are much more bland. Okay. Oh, well, all right. Hang let me some water. All right.
00:56:24
Speaker
doo do do did you lively do while i do so better putle it du but it at death little booo I'll give you a bit. I think I've been giving you too much. I'm sorry. did no over Okay.
00:56:50
Speaker
This is just having trouble being fed without seeing what he's eating. That part is, yeah. The truly most off-putting part of this experience is not knowing what's being shoved in your mouth.
00:57:06
Speaker
Okay. That's got to be walnuts? Yes! Correct! One point! Thank God. Thank God I didn't get skunked. No.
00:57:17
Speaker
No. Okay. Okay. One more. i believe in you. Okay, I'm ready. Okay. Okay. Okay, you got to close your- Oh, yeah, I forgot. Yeah.
00:57:29
Speaker
I love rock and roll. Put another diamond in your boss, baby. Sweet potato. All right. Okay. Duh.
00:57:49
Speaker
It's a tough one.
00:57:53
Speaker
I think, if this is what I think it is, the only reason I know that is it's because you asked me to buy it yesterday, and I don't think I saw it up there today. so I'm going guess this is a sweet potato?
00:58:04
Speaker
Yes! Yes! Correct! Oh, thank God. but What a truly bizarre experience. What?
00:58:16
Speaker
Wow, I'm sorry. I truly did not mean, intend to make that unpleasant for you. No, no, i think I think the experience would have been unpleasant no matter the foods. It was fun, but it was definitely, like, it sets you back on your heels, listeners. Try it at home.
00:58:32
Speaker
Yeah. and But not until you stick around for the rest of the show. Back to you, k Chris and Anna. Gedzoopz.
00:58:49
Speaker
Ha ha ha ha ha. Thanks, Chris. What a great segment. Well, my dub. I've created a game for us. A game for you. A pop quiz. Do you want to play a game?
00:59:04
Speaker
Sure do. All right. We're going to play a little Strange Lines Currency. Strange Lines Currency.
00:59:20
Speaker
I don't know what you mean to me
00:59:27
Speaker
when you said those words you said.
00:59:34
Speaker
I don't know why you said that thing. Well, I need you to fill in the word, fill in the line, fill in the blank.
00:59:49
Speaker
These words, they are not mine. These words,
01:00:19
Speaker
So I took to the internet and I found some great Gordon Ramsay Hell's Kitchen zingers. Yes. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to read you the zinger, but there's going to be a blank in it.
01:00:33
Speaker
I'm going to give you three options to fill in the blank. I want you to tell me which one goes in there. All right. Question number one. This is from season 10 when Gordon was talking to Tavon.
01:00:49
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Hey, hey, all of you stop. Look. This fucking pigeon is that raw. It could still blank.
01:01:01
Speaker
Coo. Fly or deliver a message.
01:01:15
Speaker
ah It could still fly. The pigeon could still fly.
01:01:21
Speaker
Plenty game left to play. Dang. From season two to a customer complaining about pumpkin risotto.
01:01:32
Speaker
Right. Well, I'll get you more pumpkin. I'll ram it right up your fucking ass. Would you like it blank or blank? Would you like it raw or steamed?
01:01:47
Speaker
To stay or to go? Or whole or diced? Just there to go? Whole or diced? or diced?
01:02:04
Speaker
Pretty good. Pretty good zinger, Gordon.
01:02:08
Speaker
Alright, season seven during an elimination ceremony. It's a good thing Stacy's a private chef. The food wasn't good enough for blank.
01:02:21
Speaker
Was blank the public, a dog, or me? The public. Correct. You're on the board, my heart.
01:02:35
Speaker
Love a little pun.
01:02:39
Speaker
All right. Question number four. This is season seven during a different elimination ceremony. If one's waist corresponded to the size of one's talent, then Rob would be a fantastic chef.
01:02:53
Speaker
Instead, he just blank.
01:02:57
Speaker
Instead, he just sits around the house, wears gigantic pants, or wastes my time.
01:03:14
Speaker
know Instead, he just wears gigantic pants. Oh, yeah. He shouldn't say that. He shouldn't say that. He stopped calling people fat at some point.
01:03:28
Speaker
Question number five. This is at the end of family night during season four.
01:03:37
Speaker
If family night in hell's kitchen was a movie tonight would be a blank. Was it a snuff film, a horror film or a documentary about morons?
01:03:58
Speaker
Oh, I don't actually think it's the right answer, but I'm going to say documentary about morons.
01:04:06
Speaker
He wish that was a Chris original. It was, in fact, a horror movie. Yeah, that makes more sense. All right, question number six. This is after Mater D Jean-Philippe bumps his head on a door.
01:04:22
Speaker
Oh, damn. Hey, would you nine would you mind not head-butting my door? So, can we get a sign on here, yeah? Open your eyes, you blank. Was Jean-Philippe a goofy goose, Belgian twat, or fucking tomato?
01:04:53
Speaker
No, he was unfortunately a Belgian twat. Nice. Question number seven. This is in season two after Garrett forgot the lamb sauce.
01:05:09
Speaker
Oh, fuck off, you fat, useless sack of blank. Was ah e a fat, useless sack of dog vomit, excrement, or Yankee, Dankee, doodle shite?
01:05:31
Speaker
He was Yankee, Dankee, doodle shite. Wow. Wow. It came for him with that one. up That lamb, huh? Yeah.
01:05:43
Speaker
Question number eight. Season 10 after steak night.
01:05:49
Speaker
Steak night. Blank night.
01:05:54
Speaker
Was it disaster night? Shite night or horrible night?
01:06:06
Speaker
horrible night. but no It was disaster night. Oh, I would have said mistake night. Yeah.
01:06:17
Speaker
He blew on that one. More like horrible night. ah Last chance. Let's see if you get a second point on the board.
01:06:32
Speaker
Maybe this one was too tough. Question number nine. This is after eliminating Bev in season 12.
01:06:42
Speaker
Bev may be a great food truck chef. Unfortunately for her blank.
01:06:50
Speaker
Unfortunately for her, Hell's Kitchen doesn't have wheels.
01:06:56
Speaker
Her career in Hell's Kitchen has run out of gas. or Hell's Kitchen is in a no parking zone.
01:07:16
Speaker
Unfortunately for her, Hell's Kitchen doesn't have wheels. Ah, that's so good. That's such a good zinger because it's so stupid. Yeah, yeah.
01:07:28
Speaker
he's He's the king of meat. Yeah, man, this is a building.
01:07:33
Speaker
Well, looks like it's time for the Batty Awards.
01:07:45
Speaker
Now you're messing with the Batty Awards. Now you're messing with the Batty Awards. Now you're messing with the Batty Awards. Now your mass will whip a batty a war.
01:08:02
Speaker
Congratulations to all the nominees.
01:08:12
Speaker
That's right. Congratulations to all our nominees. Congratulations to all the past winners of Hell's Kitchen. I hope you're enjoying your careers as executive chefs around the world.
01:08:26
Speaker
Sweetie, do you have a Batty Award? you want to pe I was going to say that you can also accept a cash equivalent. o I might take the prize. and do Goran Ramsey did seem like he would be a mean boss. That seemed to be the explicit lesson of the entire experience.
01:08:46
Speaker
Right. Yeah, exactly. I do have a Batty Award. My Batty Award goes to the Beef Wellingtons. A perennial staple of the Hell's Kitchen menu.
01:09:00
Speaker
a And otherwise, i think, a fussy old-fashioned dish that Americans especially would never encounter. Like I feel like, like Hell's Kitchen and Hell's Kitchen having been on TV is responsible for like all the beef Wellington's consumed in the United States. to that I wouldn't be surprised if, if Wellington has been consistently on the rise of the last 20 years and anytime that Wellington's on screen, it does look really good. I'm going to, yeah.
01:09:33
Speaker
A fantastic award. I'm going to give my batty award. to the pilot. No, sorry. The, the first episode of season four, which was the first time Gordon Ramsey appeared on TV in disguise.
01:09:50
Speaker
This became, iconic later on in ah Hell's Kitchen or possibly 24 Hours to Hell and Back, I can't quite remember, where he would put on disguises to infiltrate restaurants all the time. And later on, he sent in another guy in an even worse disguise to distract him in his pretty good disguise. And that's the iconic picture of a guy dressed like an airline pilot with like a two-inch thick latex mask around his face.
01:10:18
Speaker
But the first time he did that was in this pilot where he's wearing like a Gordon, like a Guy Fieri flame shirt. And he has a brown wig down past his shoulders.
01:10:30
Speaker
And it's just like, listen to everyone else talk on the bus. Be like, I can't wait to meet Gordon Ramsey. And he's like, no, you can't wait to meet Gordon Ramsey again. Yeah.
01:10:41
Speaker
ah It was instantly iconic to see him like rip off the latex mask in front of all the chefs. It was a great moment. incredible
01:10:53
Speaker
Well, thank you so much for doing this episode with me, my heart. It's been a real delight. Yeah. Good time. I can't wait to find out what reality competition show we talk about next year.
01:11:08
Speaker
So many options. It's true. You all have no idea how many. competitive reality shows reality competition shows we have watched if you want a comprehensive list of the activities that we have covered in our viewing of reality competition shows check out our episode about Canada's Worst Driver season 8 that we did last year at about the same time and come back next week
01:11:41
Speaker
when we're going to be joined by Mr. Pete Spear, and we're going be talking about the movie Megaforce.
01:11:49
Speaker
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01:12:04
Speaker
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01:12:14
Speaker
And ah yeah, you can find us on blue sky. You can find us on Instagram. There are links all that in the show notes. And just to see you out, here's the iconic theme song from the first 18 seasons of hell's kitchen that they got rid of for some reason, I'm assuming to keep that budget tight.
01:12:31
Speaker
Yeah, that's right. It's fire by the Ohio players. And until next week, Be good and get the fuck out of here.