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Reuben Langdon on Avatar, E.T. Disclosure, and Waking Up to a Multidimensional Reality image

Reuben Langdon on Avatar, E.T. Disclosure, and Waking Up to a Multidimensional Reality

S1 E26 · Journey Mindfulness
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On this episode of the Journey Mindfulness Podcast James has a conversation with Reuben Langdon.

Reuben is an Actor, Filmmaker, Stuntman,  and Video Game Star whose work you can see in productions like Interview with E.D., Pirates of the Caribbean, the Power Rangers series, and the highest grossing film of all time, Avatar, where he was the stunt double of Jake Sully's alien Avatar. Reuben shot to stardom in the video game world with leading roles as Ken Masters in Street Fighter and Dante in the Devil May Cry franchise. He interviews some of the most interesting people in the world on his podcast and T.V. Show Interview with Extra Dimensionals.

We discuss the current period of radical transformation taking place and evolution of our concept of Disclosure with The Phenomenon, which is happening NOW. Bringing awareness to the world we are co-creating with each other, seeing propaganda & conspiracies with openness, curiosity, and discernment, and appreciating and being gracious with the different paths that people take on their journeys.

Reuben talks about the world of channeling and deeper message of realizing our power, helping empower others, overcoming limitations, and shifting away from victimhood, and helping lift each other up as humanity and Mother Earth ascend into a new consciousness. We can do this by getting out of our minds and into our heart center, being kind and compassionate to one another and supporting our communities. Integrating higher consciousness into our daily lives and cultivating hope and optimism at the exciting things to come.

To learn more about Reuben and his community, archive of channeled interviews with the world’s most accomplished channels, and T.V. Show Interview With E.D. (Extra Dimensionals):

https://www.interviewwithed.org/

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https://vimeo.com/ondemand/interviewwithed

On Tubi TV:

https://tubitv.com/series/300001054/interview-with-e-d-extra-dimensionals

On Gaia:

https://www.gaia.com/series/interviews-extra-dimensionals

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Transcript

Introduction of Ruben Langdon

00:00:11
Speaker
Welcome to the Journey Mindfulness Podcast. I'm your host, James O'Neill, and we have a really amazing guest today, Ruben Langdon, coming all the way from Japan. and Yes. Hello, hello. Thanks for having me. Yeah, man.

From Hollywood to Spiritual Exploration

00:00:25
Speaker
Well, you ah have had a very interesting career coming from Hollywood, and then ah really love how your friend Georgia Jean puts it, coming out of the Cosmic Closet.
00:00:39
Speaker
and Totally. Yes. hey I came out of the closet while still working on the movie Avatar. So it was it was an interesting time. Okay.
00:00:50
Speaker
Yeah. What what happened? What was what was the event? Oh, hold on a second. Okay. Sorry about that. No worries, man. It's all good.
00:01:02
Speaker
ah It was really impressive to me when we talked to Daniel Scranton last week or couple weeks ago, whatever that was, um how you... the The sound with his channeling and the vibrations and everything, how that resonates through.
00:01:17
Speaker
It's very interesting. Yeah, he he I think he's he had his settings pretty dialed in as well because I noticed when I... asked him i was like hey you what uh these these types of things are definitely an issue and then he's like oh no we're we're good i've dialed it in i fixed it yeah he's a pro he's been doing yeah you guys are both pros but i would imagine though with all the um if i recall correctly there was an yeah your episode with daryl anka he was chan and there was like i don't something happened with the mic it either popped or like flipped off or something
00:01:52
Speaker
Literally the, the, the, uh, the pack, you know, the battery pack that, uh, you know, the, photo trip the receiver for his microphone literally popped off his belt, which those things are pretty like, and he wasn't moving.
00:02:08
Speaker
Like he wasn't like doing any heavy things to make that, to create any kind of, uh, movement. So that thing could come off. Yeah. So even if it was on there kind of in a flimsy way,
00:02:20
Speaker
um I don't you everybody in the room were just like, whoa, it's something supernatural just happened here.
00:02:28
Speaker
I mean, I would imagine those things tend to happen just with the different energies that seem to come through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. we've had some I've had a few anomalies when it comes to tech. um Not so much in the channeling world.
00:02:42
Speaker
I was down in Guatemala ah filming the Grand Elder of the Maya, Alejandro Perez. wandering wolf and he um he was sick in bed and i had two cameras we went into to do a little filming two cameras uh separately had same issues at the certain spot when they were in their room so that was kind of an interesting anomaly that i that i came across so those those happen they're not not all the time but yeah it's interesting when they do you you take notice you're like okay that's weird they
00:03:20
Speaker
Well, I mean, it's all cool. what a So I was asking you before, what a what kind of was the event that opened you up?

Early Influences and Spiritual Awakening

00:03:31
Speaker
You know, sometimes in the spiritual community, they talk about awakening, but you had this career in Hollywood doing your thing and then, you know, jokingly calling it coming out of the cosmic closet. But what was the event that really got your attention in the first place?
00:03:49
Speaker
Well, at a young age, my mom was ah part of the Ramtha cult. um and And I say that, I don't mean to and offend anybody who's who's part of that, but but if you're part of it, you know, it's kind of culty.
00:04:01
Speaker
So, ah you know, it' it's a mild cult. there's there's ah There's definitely a lot a lot of different cult religious groups and things out there. And I think religion as a whole is a cult.
00:04:13
Speaker
But... um ah The Ramtha cult is, if you're familiar, it's Jay-Z Knight who channels a being called Ramtha. ah She was very popular in the 80s, early 90s.
00:04:27
Speaker
And then something went sour around that time, around the late 90s, mid to late 90s, where a lot of fear mongering had gotten into the channelings and into the messaging of of Jay-Z.
00:04:43
Speaker
uh a lot of people are probably familiar with the uh the uh film what the bleep yeah so what the bleep was actually ah uh produced and created by ramtha followers um and uh and a lot of people don't know that uh dr um uh uh dr joe dispenza also was part originally part of the the ramtha group as well and and a lot of you know people who are
00:05:15
Speaker
making headways and and with quantum physics and all these things, a lot of their original ideas and influences came from Ramtha. So Ramtha had some really good information, especially back in the day ah that was opening a lot of people up.
00:05:27
Speaker
But as things do, things tend to get hijacked and energies come in. And, you know, who knows all how that happened, whether it was, you know, CIA voice of God Jay-Z jay z not having a clear energy or channel or whatever but anyways it kind of went south and went okay in a very culty uh way but anyways i was i was exposed to that at a young age so my mom was always talking about aliens are real um you know you you can use your uh mind to create anything you want and i sort of had this
00:06:07
Speaker
um positive influence when it came to belief systems uh and even though i didn't really buy into it it wasn't my thing i told my mom i didn't want to be part of it uh i you know i think just having that in the background helped keep an open mind for me so Fast forward, I moved to Japan at young age of 19. I get into martial arts and the movie industry and I'm working with Jackie Chan and other prominent figures in Asia.
00:06:38
Speaker
And then moved back to the States and I'm working in the Hollywood industry. And my goal really is just to focus on stunts and film. And that's my passion up until ah when I'm on set in 2007 Avatar.
00:06:54
Speaker
on avatar as the main stunt double for Jake Sully. um Then, you know, where where YouTube is coming out, ah the Disclosure Project, I i see for the first time, Greer's 2001 Disclosure Project event.
00:07:13
Speaker
And I'm like, oh my God, it my mom was right. Aliens are real. You know, my my mind is getting exposed. You know, the the Zeitgeist movies are coming were made available on YouTube for free.
00:07:24
Speaker
9-11 is an inside job. You know, all of this stuff was sort of getting revealed to me um And i think I was just primed with my belief structures where I was with everything.
00:07:37
Speaker
And then I had this crazy UFO experience. ah Well, yeah. actually very mild. It wasn't that crazy. but For me at the time, it was very, it's very crazy. Now people have those every day.
00:07:48
Speaker
But I saw these lights, middle of the day, lights in the sky, couldn't explain. And i i couldn't let it go. It captured that experience, captured my curiosity so strong and and so deep.
00:08:02
Speaker
ah that i looked up Dr. Stephen Greer and joined ah one of his 2010 gathering in Rio Rico, Arizona for a weekend C5 event.
00:08:14
Speaker
There were other speakers there, Richard Hoagland,
00:08:19
Speaker
in others and um then realize the connection the mind um mind heart connection to you know the c5 protocols learning about that uh making having more experiences connect connecting seeing these beings or seeing these craft i should say so um once that that was sort of the nail in the coffin i was like i can't go back you know once you understand that There's more out there than what we've been told on a collective sort of cultural, societal level.
00:08:57
Speaker
And then you start digging and and going through the the files and understanding that there's been a um ah ah conspiracy to withhold this information from from the general public.

Mission of Cosmic Awareness

00:09:11
Speaker
It just felt to me like this was the... my My worldview was so expanded and opened and shifted just from knowing that we weren't alone.
00:09:23
Speaker
Yeah. That I was like, what would happen to the whole world if the whole world knew we weren't alone? How would that affect the psyche, the consciousness, the... um societal affairs, day-to-day life, just just knowing that, whether it shows up in your face or not, but just having that knowledge and knowing that in your heart of hearts, how would that affect society? So it became kind of a mission of mine too to bret spread the news and go as far and wide as I could to tell people about.
00:09:55
Speaker
ah So not only did I come out of the closet, I wanted to ah get other people out of the closet as much as possible. Okay. Well, but to your credit, you've definitely been living that.
00:10:05
Speaker
I mean, that's... I interviewed Tony Ghazi a few months ago, and we were just sharing. I think it was...
00:10:17
Speaker
Well, I'll maybe back up maybe a little bit bit before that. But i so I'm a therapist, which so when you have one foot in the clinical world, you know, this stuff is so far removed from everything. Like it's sure it's like, OK, wow. Like, yeah.
00:10:31
Speaker
But then you can't unlearn this stuff, really. Right. Like what's it? What's your I teach mindfulness. So like you you talk about being open and curious. And those are two of the your main drivers as well. Right. It's like, OK, absolutely. I can't go back. Yeah.
00:10:47
Speaker
But I, in one of my therapy sessions, one of my clients had gone to a psychic medium and started talking about me in their session.
00:10:57
Speaker
And this person had no idea who I was or anything like that. So I got curious and eventually I talked to this medium and he starts sharing all of this information about me. And then he goes, yeah, you have this connection with Arcturians. And I'm like, what is an Arcturian?
00:11:14
Speaker
What you talking about? So anyway, at some point COVID had it had started and I ah had the Gaia network and I was watching your television show, interview with Ed, and I wrote her name down, Anayana.
00:11:33
Speaker
Anayana, yep. Anayana, who's a younger younger woman who was channeling the 11th dimensional Arcturians. And I put on the show and I'm like, what's going to happen here? I have no idea.
00:11:50
Speaker
And then she starts channeling. And as she's channeling, I'm looking at her like, she is this is not her. This is something else coming through. And I can't even remember what exactly came through.
00:12:03
Speaker
But we were talking about consciousness. There clearly she was tapping into something higher than. Higher than her. Although i don't I don't know if I really want to say that word.
00:12:15
Speaker
Well, yeah, yeah. a a different A different aspect or Yeah. um So I was just fascinated by it. And then that that sort of opened me up to, okay, there is this other stuff going out there. And then I got into like the law one and kind of some of the things related to that.
00:12:32
Speaker
ah Started to meet meet people. But Tony and i kind of talked about like kind of had the same epiphany going back to your kind of mission with bringing people out of the cosmic closet. Like he watched your show and opened his mind and it was the same for me as like, okay, there is a lot I don't know that's going on right now.
00:12:51
Speaker
So so you're holding true to your mission, man. Well, thank you. Um, it's, you know, it's, I've been so captivated by the information and I've as much as possible, tried to, you know, walk the talk, uh, integrate a lot of the teachings, uh, in my day-to-day life. And I've had profound, um,
00:13:15
Speaker
growth and I say just ah ah ah over overall a positive experience from integrating these teachings into my day-to-day life. So I feel like you know it's it's one thing to sort of preach to the choir, but if you're if you actually have the the experience and then can um verbalize it or put it into an easier to understand way for people to to to uh take in ah why not you know so so it's kind of just been really documenting my journey is is is been the even though it's not like you know like a documentary like okay ruben did this and that i'm i'm but i'm basically that's what i'm doing i'm just documenting my journey ah through this wacky world alllthough
00:14:04
Speaker
discovering that we're not alone and in the universe. Yeah. i mean, you brought up a number of really good points there. ah I think sometimes when I get excited talking about things to people around me, they get very overwhelmed. Like there's a lot of information that And so, like you said, it's really hard on hard, but, you know, how do you articulate it in a way that makes sense? Because at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter necessarily how much you know about it.
00:14:35
Speaker
Right. In some sense, like it's how do you how do you how are you living or how do you integrate it in your daily life? exactly exactly and and and we all come from different backgrounds different you know religious backgrounds cultural societal backgrounds so the reference points we all have are are going to be unique to to each of us individually so i think having as many reference points to ah this type of information as possible to give people some sort of um starting point or or place to to ah comfort zone.
00:15:13
Speaker
So this information doesn't sound like, you know, the teacher, Charlie Brown teacher, wah, wah, wah, you know, it's because it can do. It's overwhelming at times. So that was part of my goal with the series was to, you know, interview as many different people as I can with different backgrounds and say, hey, look, they're all saying the same thing. It's, you know, they're using different vocabularies, but essentially the core teachings, the core understandings of what is the universe, how does it work?
00:15:42
Speaker
Um, there you know all of these different channelers different ah and the beings that they channel from different so-called parts of the galaxy ah there or or universe, they're they're all saying the same thing.
00:15:57
Speaker
That's another part of my you know my own exploration, realizing that okay therere this's it's it's ah it's all the same.
00:16:07
Speaker
It's just giving it different flavors. and That's why I say in my show I offer a buffet of of uh of different tidbits of information so you know whatever whoever resonates with this or that and they can sort of pick and choose what they want and they'll all end up going the same down the same path though yeah i'm sorry the same destination different paths same destination Yeah, no, it's really interesting. I was telling you about some synchronicities. So I had, in addition to meditation, ah got into hypnosis.
00:16:43
Speaker
And in starting this podcast, was just kind of meditating one day and thinking like, who would I who would i enjoy interviewing? And so I reached out to Jacqueline Smith. Oh, great.
00:16:54
Speaker
Yeah. yeah And was was able to connect with her and had a few sessions with her and was able to to that have a really good time talking with her.
00:17:07
Speaker
And then in the midst of that, I i interviewed someone else named Kate Chassay, who is a really awesome. She was a really great guest, but she was an experiencer and she's had all kinds of experiences.
00:17:21
Speaker
And just in conversation with her at the very end of it, I said, you know, you probably had some other experiences. Like what, what's one that might be going on now? And she said, well, there's this mantis being that's been poking its head around in my basement. And it's, it's just trying to be friendly and say hi and let it, let me know that it's there.
00:17:41
Speaker
And I'm like, this is the most, this is the ah most hilarious thing I've ever heard. Like this mantis being, it's just kind of saying hi. Then I'm like, it's really funny like this connection with mantis beings and then tony and this kind of stuff so anyway she says well um have you ever heard of this do you know who stewart davis is and i'm like oh he never sorry i've never heard of stewart davis yeah um she's like well you might want to check him out if you are interested in mantis beings and i'm like oh okay i'm like well have you ever heard of reuben langdon and she goes
00:18:14
Speaker
no, I've never heard of Reuben Langdon. And I'm like, oh, okay. So anyway, I'm curious enough. i go and look up Aliens and Artists, his podcast. And lo and behold, Jacqueline Smith is in the first episode, which is super interesting.
00:18:28
Speaker
And then you were in the episode with him few episodes later. Yeah, yep. And I'm like, you know what? It's Here we go with the mantis.
00:18:39
Speaker
The mantis folks have a way of finding each other, I've noticed, on the interwebs and whatnot. It's ah definitely an interesting crowd, which I'm part of. So it's interesting, though, because I would not necessarily consider myself in that crowd, but just these things popping up.
00:18:57
Speaker
and And maybe I am and I just don't fully comprehend it yet. I think that means you're part of the mantis crowd. Yeah. If you're having mantis conversations and and the synchronicities are popping up like that, I would definitely pay attention.
00:19:09
Speaker
Okay. Wow. Welcome the club. yeah but Well, so you you've been interviewing so so many fascinating people in this very interesting time. How has your process evolved over time just in how you approach this information and the phenomenon and all this stuff?
00:19:32
Speaker
Well, I started you know with this interest in ufology, sort of having that UFO experience and and that being at the time in 2007, the lowest hanging fruit of of my ah what what did I experience and seeing you know craft or ah weird weird objects floating in the sky for a certain amount of time and then disappearing.
00:19:54
Speaker
So that was my... And then also ah growing up as a kid, you know, being a fan of Star Trek and sci-fi and ah and then my the influences of my mom and the Ramtha and the school and their teachings, reading Conversations with God, Neil Donald Walsh, and then in book three, him going into the and this idea that we're not alone and that our our earth has been visited.
00:20:18
Speaker
So having that as a reference point. and going my my curiosity was really about sort of that and then going that direction led me into my show well first it led me into producing the citizen hearing in 2003 the citizen hearing on ufo disclosure bringing together ah whistleblowers and and researchers in front of six former members of congress and having this five-day mock congressional hearing which i thought would force disclosure right my the naive me not understanding all the intricate
00:20:49
Speaker
ah aspects of government and how, how, ah ah what a wall that was set up there and it's now collapsing, which is awesome. But that ufo subject was the driving force i thought that was the key that i had to unlock and um going down that hole i but and got to know wendy and the palladiums and and others on my show nora and uh and daryl and and and uh many prominent channelers and and just following that thread
00:21:22
Speaker
Thinking again in my mind, okay, Palladians equals ETs and k craft. And then it was actually in that first interview with Wendy that she said you know the you know what do you get she asked, what are you going to call this?
00:21:36
Speaker
you know I didn't even have a name for the show. i was still kind of It was a concept in that i was just putting together. uh she she was the first she was my first so interview yeah so uh i said i don't know you know i'm thinking like interview with an et or something like that and she said well i'm actually getting the peas are coming in right now ah they're telling me that you might want to use the term uh extra dimensional instead of et you know and that's where ed uh interview with ed comes comes from his
00:22:10
Speaker
Literally her channeling through the Pleiadians and letting me know that this

Changing Views on Extraterrestrials

00:22:15
Speaker
concept of what an ET is, is going to shift as we move forward. And at the time, I didn't have a reference for that. But, you know, years doing the show, a decade of of interviewing different channelers and different beings and different ah understandings of what all that is.
00:22:32
Speaker
I've really shifted my perspective on what is what is the phenomenon. And I think that that term phenomenon is a better term to use because it shows up in all forms and fashions and it's not limited to a tin can metal object floating in the sky. That's an aspect of it, depending on the race and depending on the, um, the beans or the consciousness that's coming through.
00:22:58
Speaker
But it's far too grand of, uh, of, uh, of an experience, uh, to limit to this sort of sci-fi idea that we've, we've held for so long through our science fiction movies and stuff like that.
00:23:15
Speaker
So really, I think the biggest takeaway over the years of doing this is the ah detachment of the story and to understand and know that we're writing the story as we go.
00:23:32
Speaker
And depending ah depending on who's observing, it's like the the collapsing of the of of the particle you know with the double slit experiment. Yeah.
00:23:43
Speaker
Depending on how you look at it, it's going to collapse into a wave or a... or uh, you to know, uh, what do they call it? Uh, grid line in the pack, or it's gonna, it can be a particle it can be a wave, ah or it can, uh, be, uh, a solid, uh, depending on how you look at it. So I think that's the, the collective.
00:24:06
Speaker
humanity as our lens shifts over to that reality. And then you have to factor in all the different, you know, the the billions of people on the planet and the and the belief systems that we all have.
00:24:23
Speaker
It's going to be ah very ah nuanced, different experience for us all. And until we get to that point where first contact happens and and we and they're maybe on the news, you know, maybe a palladium ship lands and the person gets out of the car or not car, but the the craft and, you know, White House lawn and, you know, president's shaking hands and that kind of thing.
00:24:46
Speaker
But i I think even that is an old, you know, 60s type of perspective based on movies and ideas and concepts. And I think it doesn't have form. I think it's the form is up to the belief system of the person. People have interactions with people.
00:25:03
Speaker
angels and uh jesus mother mary you know the uh um different aspects of the quran might show up in different um uh uh here in japan there's lots of uh the yokai uh is a is a big sort of thing in old japan and different beings and how they show up so i think it's gonna differ and be and and people will access it in their own unique ways and uh And we'll eventually there'll be a consensus onto what, what the phenomenon is. But until then, i think limiting it to tin cans in the and the sky is a disservice.
00:25:45
Speaker
Yeah. It's so it's interesting too. I think kind of, you're talking about the double slit, like we're a term that you often hear in, um, you know, different channelings, we're all co-creating our reality.
00:26:00
Speaker
And so it's constantly shifting. And so, you know, there's all these shows about predictions of, you know, what's 2025 going to look like? And when are the aliens going to land? And what's the exact date? And all these kinds of things. It's like...
00:26:15
Speaker
it's It's constantly in flux, right? Like who who knows? Like it's there's generally a timeline of sorts. But then again, we're we're only just in the present moment, the eternal present moment as well.
00:26:27
Speaker
Yeah. And that's the teachings, right? That's what they say is time is an illusion, no expectations, you know, I don't have expectations. Uh, so following the teachings have led me to a new conclusion of, of what the phenomenon is, where we're at with it, and then how to detach from the, any, uh,
00:26:52
Speaker
potential outcomes and just allow it to to form and be. and it's ah just a much more rich experience. um For me, it has been and and has allowed me to reach out to many people you know on on different spectrums. That's what why my show, especially in season three, I started going into more interviewing you know and talking to people um about like lightly and like light language, shamanism,
00:27:24
Speaker
um indigenous teachings you know I think it's all interconnected and ah ah I and I think we're finding that out but I think so many people just they like their compartmentalized cookie cutter concept of what this or that is and uh and that's their comfort zone and there's nothing wrong with that but uh it is it it can be limiting Yeah. i mean, that's I grew up Catholic and, you know, it's there's that tradition and those teachings. And then I, at a young age, college traveled to Thailand and it started learning about Buddhism and and all these other religions and different paths.
00:28:07
Speaker
And that it really opened me up. And to your point, though, about our beliefs, like they there's all these different paths and they're all unique and and have their own own way, but it's, it's getting to the destination. And a lot of these indigenous things, they they were kind of ahead of the curve. It seems like.
00:28:27
Speaker
Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. That was my dabble in indigenous cultures and hanging around a lot of the shamans and medicine men of, of, of those ah different tribes.
00:28:41
Speaker
When you hear again, what it's just like channeling, when you hear what they're saying and the teachings, it's, it's all, and it's all the same stuff. It's just, you know, different flavors. Interesting. And if I remember correctly during avatar, you, you had experience with that, right? You did some training, like was it was a language training and other stuff.
00:29:01
Speaker
Yeah, on on said, you know, Cameron was a stickler for details. So he he brought in a linguist who, you know, knew a lot of different languages and was able to based on and ah the Navi language was based on a lot of indigenous languages.
00:29:19
Speaker
ah So finding different tones and sounds. and uh throughout and he would invent you know stuff on set there he would say okay well you know we need a word for this you know and kevin would sort give him some homework and he's like okay uh you know and he kind of created a basic vocabulary with basic meetings and um and then would would sort of create words and sounds out of that which was quite beautiful experience ah But again, it was based on a lot of indigenous teachings and I didn't know anything about indigenous cultures. I didn't really, that wasn't part of my zeitgeist or study or interest until I was working on avatar and as homework, you know, ah Cameron, again, being that stickler for detail, gave us lots of homework where we had to,
00:30:11
Speaker
um perform and and act and and be as as as indigenous as possible so yeah so trying to get into the skin of of an indigenous um uh native you know on another planet you know kind of thinking how that how that would work and how ah he would give us a knife and say okay the here's the design of the knife that's designed this way for these specific tasks now ruben come up with some kind of creative unique uh movement that you would use this knife to do these tasks um that would be practical but also interesting for you know just in the background if someone's watching and they see you you know you're just a background guy mo cutting a fish open with this knife it's it's ah ah still unique and different so so it has its own flavor on this on this other world so those are the type of details we'd get a little homework on and then i'd go and practice and literally have
00:31:11
Speaker
uh, dead fish, really real dead fish on set, uh, that I would be cutting up and, you know, mangling and go home with smelly, smelly. Oh my God. Because cutting fish all day on set.
00:31:27
Speaker
and So those little, yeah, those little things were helping me embody. I got to be part of a Maori haka ceremony. um ah Okay. ah Cameron went, you know, a large portion of the live action aspects of the film were were shot in New Zealand. So he was exposed to the Maori culture and he learned about the haka and said, I want that in Avatar.
00:31:54
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So he flew ah a group to LA and they, you know, it was a small group and they said, well, we, we typically have more people in this. And I go, okay, Ruben, get in there, you know, learn, learn this hot cup thing. So I'm like, you know, doing the whole tongue thing and all that stuff. was Yeah.
00:32:10
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I, uh, I was a rugby player, me and I, that, that was, that's intense. Yeah. Yeah, yes. So I got to learn about, ah you know, indigenous cultures from just, you know, my experience on Avatar.
00:32:25
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which It was a nice homework assignment. And again, I think that was part of this awakening for me, which led to that experience was just all of the... culmination of all of these different, you know, the indigenous watching YouTube videos of Steven Greer and Disclosure Projects. Like, you know, like I said, it just all came in and was like, okay, boom, ah you're or being guided here to to to to with your new set of instructions.
00:32:54
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on life, which did turn my life around. i I quickly switched over from wanting to be an action star on on film and television and and moved into, you know i want to wake up humanity with with ah the secrets of the universe.
00:33:14
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ba I mean, that's ah quite a shift, although it's I don't to me, it's very interesting that it was Avatar that kind of like you were in that. Right. Like, so it's that movie, I feel like for it is like a foreshadowing of all these other things that are happening now.
00:33:32
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. i yes I remember after Avatar wrapped, I'd been hanging out since got a 2010 CES, Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas.
00:33:45
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was hanging out with Cameron with just a few of us that worked on the show ah in his hotel room and sipping on wine, talking. And I, and I told Cameron, I said, you know, you're the film avatar was like, had shifted the consciousness of the planet. You have no idea. And and he's like, no, no, no. and It, if, if avatar come out 10 years earlier, it would have tanked.
00:34:09
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He said that the consciousness of the planet was ready to receive avatar. and And I was like, oh. He said that? Yeah, he said that. Wow. and i And at the time, I you know i was like, oh, wow. Yeah, I never looked at it that way. But I think it's both.
00:34:25
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I think one influences the other. But I absolutely, I think, um same same with my show. you know My show, the timing of it. I actually released my show in 2015 and barely had. It was on Vimeo and barely had anybody watch it.
00:34:41
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I think it was... Pre-COVID, Gaia picked it up and it was just the timing of of COVID, people being at home wanting to consume some content and what's this thing. And so I think it really is a timing where the ah consciousness um receives it the citizen hearing I produced in 2010 um or 2013 laughed at by mainstream media uh my all my friends and colleagues were like what are you doing you're wasting your time um this is just a ah pipe dream you know aliens are real uh even though I you know produce this big event a multi-million dollar budget
00:35:24
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and um and which never made any money and actually lost the investors money and and had to uh uh and hung on for a long time there and now finally it's it's you know i made it for free on youtube and even then once i made it for free still people were and it was it barely got any views but now it's finally people are watching it and uh you know with all the disclosures happening in congress and all that stuff uh I think Jake, um Jake Barber's name.
00:35:55
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He yeah gave us, he gave it a shout out on his interview with um ah Jesse Michaels, I think. um ah American Alchemy. Yeah, American alchemy. So it's nice to get, you know, shout outs and sort of point people in that direction. So finally, you know, over 10 years later, it's it's getting some some some headway, but it is a timing thing. I think ah Cameron was absolutely right with with his ah assessment of um the consciousness has to be ready to receive these things. You can't you can't force it.
00:36:29
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You can't force disclosure. You can't You can create the breadcrumbs for people to follow, but you can't. ah There's no, you know, people going to accept it if, it's you know, if if there wasn't, if the consciousness isn't ready.
00:36:44
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I think what's happening right now in politics and with, you know, the whole, um the corruption being uncovered through the doge and all that stuff, that's the same same idea. This stuff has been going on for for decades since, the big you know, and and nobody, nobody nobody cared it seemed or nobody paid attention i don't know but now we're at a point where people are like hey there's a lot of corruption going on we really need take care of this like it's actually been going oh my ruben my uh i mean my dad is 82 now and i'm i was telling him about jfk and all this stuff and he's like what and i'm like and yeah how did this go under the you know like in the
00:37:27
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Well, and and we would sound the alarm. We would, you know, tell people, I told people about JFK, you know, when I found out back in, you know, 2010-ish, I think, um you know, the UFO stuff was connected to that. So...
00:37:42
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And just everybody, same thing. You know you're you're you you know you're you're a conspiracy theorist, you're crazy and all that stuff. So again, it's people have to be ready to receive the information. And now we're at a place where people's minds and hearts are being opened up enough to to to say, yeah, that's actually, that's that happened.
00:38:05
Speaker
Well, so you brought up the Maori a little bit ago. Mm-hmm. ah you You said you enjoy talking about higher consciousness. Is the Maori connected with Lemuria?
00:38:19
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I would think so. Yeah, I think there I think a lot of the Polynesian cultures, ah the Hawaiians, I know, I'm not sure about Maoris, Maoris, but the Hawaiians, you know, their term for the continent or their origin is mu they literally that's part of their language uh and i'm probably decimating the pronunciation but um mu uh the island of mu which we have ancient old maps even ah showing that this this island in the pacific this continent existed

Ancient Myths and Modern Spirituality

00:38:54
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and uh and you check in with a lot of the
00:38:58
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different Polynesian cultures, and they they talk about, you know, a great flood and a deluge that came and and and washed away the lands.
00:39:08
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So it's a similar story that we hear in other cultures and other parts of the world. But the the Polynesian cultures definitely have that aspect and even the name Mu, which is associated with Lemurians.
00:39:26
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And then you, so I'm trying to get back to like higher levels of consciousness. You brought up Jake Barber, know the most maybe recent whistleblower, I guess you call him. yeah But he's, i think one of the first people that's kind of, you talked about a shout out, but talked about the spiritual component.
00:39:46
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I mean, I know great Dr. Greer talks about that too, but you know, he's sort of the first. ah So I think we're slowly getting there. Totally. Yeah, it's nice to see. yeah ah Yeah. How do you see, or what how has your view of disclosure changed now? like what What does disclosure even mean to you now at this point with where things are?
00:40:10
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Well, i used to, you know, when I produced a citizen hearing, i was, again, naive at the time, ah just coming on to the information, being a film guy, you know, ah had this preconceived idea that Film and television being this powerful medium that if we just sort of put it into a palatable, a story for people to, to take in that, that's, that's all that's needed to, to shift the the world into understanding. wei We were not alone.
00:40:40
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um and and doing it in this form and fashion of of having a a mock congressional hearing or having congress made it more believable you know and in my there was tons of shows out at the time ancient aliens is you know done a great service to humanity for waking people up to a lot of these cons so-called conspiracies or um different events and um crashes and and crash retrievals and all this stuff. So it's actually been, the the the masses have been educated little by little through different breadcrumbs being dropped through our media.
00:41:17
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and And for me, I just thought, well, disclosure is this you know, a mass, a mass, uh, like the president or some, you know, Congress, like we're getting right now coming out and saying, you know, we're not alone and that kind of thing.
00:41:32
Speaker
Well, that's happened, you know, Congress for the past few years, uh, especially with the David Grush hearings, uh, almost two years now. Um, has has a you know and and news media matt gates others have gone on tv television congress members saying we're not alone literally out just blatantly we're not alone there's something else out there you know is and and yet here we are ah in a in a world where a lot of people still don't believe we're
00:42:07
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We're ah not alone. A lot of people think that the whole this whole idea of aliens is ah is a pipe dream and ETs or beings or entities visiting us from other worlds is just so all science fiction.
00:42:20
Speaker
and So disclosure, the this idea of disclosure in the past was... was supposed, the way it was supposed to happen was, you know, presidents came on TV and we're all going to have, you know, the, the, there's even a book that Richard Dolan and Bryce Zabel wrote called the day after disclosure, which they sort of laid out this potential, uh, uh, time timeline of how the president comes on TV and says, we're not alone in all this stuff. And everybody's like, oh my God. And you know, the stock market crashes and all this stuff.
00:42:53
Speaker
Well, it hasn't happened. It happened, but it hasn't. you know Disclosures happened. were We're in it. We're still getting more and more disclosures like the Jake Barber and others of these programs and ah documents. and you know any Anybody with a curious mind can just pop open the the internet and and do some even some foia requests and and and get all everything you need to know that the uh uh phenomena is real and and we're not alone so it's there it's dangling right in everybody's faces but uh
00:43:33
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but it's not what I think was projected in, um, like when I was producing the citizen hearing, you know, and like the, the mass is catching on as this, this big thing.
00:43:44
Speaker
Uh, we're so divided now. And, uh, and what is science, you know, with science it's sort of been hijacked with, we're getting all these Fauci disclosures where, ah you know, in the COVID debacle where, uh, so-called,
00:44:00
Speaker
science was um saying this but we were finding out now that it was all lies and manipulated and there was no true science and you know these were just uh paid shills to get certain outcomes for ah to move a um a narrative along so our whole idea and concept of you know trust the science is is falling apart and i think there's a bigger ah bigger um agenda at play here for that, for us all.
00:44:35
Speaker
to come to our own conclusions and not to rely on this guy or the president coming in and saying, we're at a point now, if the president did come out, say, say ETs are real, I think probably half of the world would, you know, just say he's, he's, it's, it's a psyop. It's lot. He's lying. There's not, it's not, there's no truth.
00:44:54
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And it's so hard to discern. Yeah. Yeah. So I, we're at this, We're in a different time now where disclosure is, what is disclosure? Like it doesn't even, you asked me that question and it doesn't even have, it doesn't have the gravitas or the label or the, even the understanding of what, what is, what does that mean?
00:45:18
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it it's been so it's been put into the, you know, the washing machine and the dryer and tumbled and just like diluted, diluted. And, and it's so, um,
00:45:30
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So I think we're in disclosure. I think this is, this is it. I think this is happening right now, uh, at a, at a pace that's quite fast for, and and maybe too fast for a lot of people. So they're it's, it's overwhelming, and but it's also just right. You know, uh, I think we're, it's happening in a beautiful organic way.
00:45:50
Speaker
And I think these whistleblowers, uh, even though, the, uh, The ah UFO Twitter twitter is it's it's a mess. And this person is accusing that person of this, of that and another. And but I think it's all serving its purpose.
00:46:06
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ah And it's you have the different agendas and. ah and narratives on disclosure, uh, that are, that are happening depending on the person. And even in my, own my own right, you know, my, my sort of corner of the UFO Twitter, uh, talking about the consciousness aspects and really trying to guide people and going in that direction.
00:46:32
Speaker
Um, but I think it's all valid. I don't think there's a one size fits all shoe for, for what is disclosure. And yeah I just, i'm I'm glad it's happening and it has such large spectrum of nuanced narratives. it's I think that's that's disclosure.
00:46:53
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is that there's a It's going to happen how it happens for each of us individually. will you I think Spielberg is coming out with a new movie and he just renamed it Disclosure.
00:47:04
Speaker
Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. I saw some, some things on that. So, and again, that, and that's going to be a beautiful avatar was disclosure. I think. All of it is valid.
00:47:16
Speaker
And when we can recognize that and get away from the nitpicking and bickering and name calling and chilling this person or that person, um and just realize that this is this is this is part of the process. This is all really awesome that there is so much to choose from. There's a buffet, a disclosure buffet of narratives if you want to choose which one you align with. And And go with it it. Again, I think all paths lead to the same destination.
00:47:49
Speaker
Well, it's, you know, you're talking about some people are just not ready for it. a lot of them are my family members. Sure, I have some too.
00:48:00
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yeah And, but what I try to tell them, and maybe you can touch on this too, is just to go into, we were talking about integration earlier, but your heart and how you're living and how, you know, I think you,
00:48:17
Speaker
you know One of the things that really appreciate about you is is how you you put this into practice. It's not just you know it's it's how you live your life, like doing breath work or being intentional about how you bless your water or something like that. you know like Just a very intentional way of living that's very admirable.
00:48:38
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But going into the heart and and internally, like you know paying attention to the energy that you are exuding into the world in your way of being. Yeah, I mean, that ah talking about the different agendas or narratives that are out there, um i i always, i love the buffet and I love all the different storylines.
00:48:59
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But what these teachings have taught me is we're living in the choose your own adventures, you know, those books. Remember where you can turn page 35 and, you know,
00:49:11
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ah get turned to page thirty five and yeah know If you want A, pick A, B, or C, and then if you go to but you know pick B, you're going to switch over to the other, ah this page, and it's and then you get a different ending or outcome.
00:49:27
Speaker
And the I think that's how reality actually works um to not and invalidate anybody's journey, but we get to choose. and if And if if that's truly how the universe works, um so far, that's from my observ observation experience, that's how it seems to be working, is we do get to choose our adventure here.
00:49:49
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And if that's the case, why not choose the, the, let's say, and don't want to give a, a, a hierarchy over anything, but highest, when I say the highest or most positive, uh, uh, through line, the most positive storyline.
00:50:05
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which is void of, of of um you know, evil aliens becoming demons and, by you know, taking over your body and, you know, ah bad AI nanoparticles getting into your blood and, you know, um governments using ah technologies to ah manipulate and turn you into a zombie. You know, all those storylines are valid and there's plenty of evidence.
00:50:33
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yeah there's plenty of oh Yeah, Solstead at Sheen or we're born into a ah prison planet. you know These are all great storylines that make for great science fiction. and And I'm not invalidating them by any means. I think there i think i what I like to do, if you follow my my my old Fridays, um I look at the news.
00:50:53
Speaker
is look at all the different news out ah narratives. And then I'd like i like to, ah for example, let's take the prison planet that someone brought that up to me. Like, hey, Ruben, have you come across this? i'm like, yeah. And you, you've I don't know, James, if you've heard of the prison planet concept.
00:51:08
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ah Yeah. Which, so i so I think to not invalidate that idea, like, yeah, actually, I think it's it's true. I think that we do live to a certain extent in a prison planet now.
00:51:20
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take a a wide a wider view of that okay well the prince and planet concept is just to give your audience and ideas is that our souls are born here and we're sort of trapped the souls can't leave the planet some people say the moon there's some kind of giant energy device on the moon that's sort of keeping some kind of electromagnetic field here so humans uh born here can't The idea is that our souls are trapped here and then we're in this constant ah reincarnation cycle that we can never get off the planet.
00:51:52
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um So the it's something people say, when you see the light, don't go into the light, go the other direction. and what way yeah There's all these nerves around that. ah I like to say, okay, well, that's a narrative and I take all narratives in this way. Well, let's, let's decode it. Let's figure out the highest possible perspective without invalidating that as a, as a reality, but let's, let's go, let's go further with it.
00:52:15
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So let's say our, let's say we're our souls or originated and another part of the galaxy, you know, the Octurians, the Pleiadians or whatever. And we saw this prison planet as as a so-called prison planet of heavy density that needs uplifting.
00:52:34
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Well, we still, our souls, ah what I believe, our souls chose to incarnate on this planet to help elevate and raise the consciousness of the planet so we can liberate the planet from being this prison planet because of the heavy density that ah e revolves around this planet ah we can we are, you know, higher beings and higher consciousnesses.
00:53:02
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When I say higher, I mean like higher vibratory beings on planets of peace and without war and without the heavy density um energies that ah exist on this planet chose to come here and to uplift the planet, to liberate it, to free it from these things. So as, uh,
00:53:23
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ah one of these souls that ah chose to come here. i am going to choose. I chose to liberate the planet so it would no longer be a so-called prison planet.
00:53:36
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but And... Therefore, we are in the process of this liberation, so to say, yeah to and raise the consciousness of the planet. So we're not going to be trapped in this ah spiral of prison-like incarnations.
00:53:53
Speaker
And that's a tough that's ah that's ah an example. I'm just using that as an example. I don't actually and can believe in in in that per say but i feel i I'm just giving people the the ability to choose your own timeline and not to be limited if someone tells you this story or that story or whatever.
00:54:11
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You can always create a new story that sort of circumvents or doesn't invalidate the story, but still creates a positive direction for you to go.
00:54:22
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Because if you just subscribe to that storyline of, oh, we're in a prison planet, my soul just incarnates here, well, you might as well put a gun to your head. why why are you even living life right now? what do you what do you What's your motivation for ah for doing anything if you're just going to subscribe to such a doom and gloom scenario? Yeah, and then reincarnate back in the prison.
00:54:43
Speaker
Yeah, just reincarnate from prison. Yeah, I guess I'm just going to live miserably because there's nothing there's nowhere to go. i'm just I'm just living out life as a slave, you know? And And not to invalidate you know those different belief systems. And there's a lot of religions out there that are very much into the victimhood and into, you know, we're born into sin and all this stuff.
00:55:04
Speaker
um Which again, not to invalidate that, but I say, you know, be creative and find a alternative storyline that choose your own adventure that that gets you out of that prison, gets you out of that, uh, deep, um, depressing, um, uh, enslavement, you know, it's all liberation. liberation Yeah.
00:55:30
Speaker
Liberation, liberate yourself by writing a new story. Yeah. And, uh, so that's why I tend to ah gravitate towards the, um,
00:55:41
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the storylines that are being delivered to the people I interview through the channeling work is because that is the message. The message is, you know you guys are creating your own drama and your own you know limitations.
00:55:57
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ah you know you can You can uncreate them by focusing on positive storylines or different outcomes. And sometimes it can be magical miracles that happen overnight, but, you know, it takes some work. Our beliefs, our humanity's beliefs, especially in the, in the negative side of things, you know, of humans being, uh, you know, uh, uh, we've been sort of force fed these, these ideas of, uh, the ah old concept of Darwinism of, you know, survival of the fittest and,
00:56:32
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and other types of um limited belief systems systems that have been instilled to us through religion and these types of things that that that it's going to take time to sort of unlock and block a lot of those um limitations.
00:56:49
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So it may not happen overnight, but we can as we find the cracks in the story, the current story that's been you know, shoveled or or fed to us as we find those cracks and we can figure out how we can retell the story in a new, more positive light.
00:57:10
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Let's do it. Let's find every opportunity where we can and not, and again, not invalidate any stories because by invalidating what you do then is you're, you're sort of telling someone else that, that what they believe in is it's not good enough. And it's almost, it's almost, um,
00:57:26
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it's it's almost as It's almost the same as telling them they're in a prison planet yeah or force feeding that idea. You don't want to invalidate someone's belief system because that doesn't give them a way out. That's the difference between empathy and sympathy.
00:57:40
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When you sympathize with someone, you're you're going to their level and you're not showing them. You're just simply like, yeah, oh, you're you know poor you, poor me. We're all poor. We're all victims.
00:57:51
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empathy is understanding where they're at in their journey and showing them through your own journey that there are there's an alternative yeah so more empowering more empowering yeah so so i think it's For me, you know just finding those empowering storylines that help people get out of their ah just their limitations. and and and um So yeah, we were just talking about choosing your a more empowering path and or um having empathy for people wherever they are in their journey as well and and helping give them space really to allow that to evolve.
00:58:34
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Exactly. That's the part of my journey is I've learned you can't tell anybody anything. you got You can show them, but you can't tell them. Yeah, it's true. it's Well, you know, it's funny. i ah hey My kids think I'm you know very interesting and and strange, which is fine.
00:58:53
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But they were watching an Indiana Jones movie, one of the more recent ones. And my son, Will, and that's coming through. Okay. back Back in Alpland. I mean, it's all good. i Are you familiar with Suzanne Giesemann at all?
00:59:11
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Suzanne Giesemann? She's a... I don't think so, no. She's a medium, ah but one of her guides that she channels is says, all is in perfect order always.
00:59:25
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and just kind like Remember, like no matter what happens, it's it's okay. Thank you. be
00:59:32
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yes ah so
00:59:35
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fit bit so anyway so i have two two uh young kids will and taylor and they were watching an indiana jones movie and they they have their opinions about me and my interest talking about empathy that they have for me and i have for them and uh the movie involved crystal skulls at the very end of the movie My son goes, Dad, like you would love this. And like all of sudden these crystal skulls sort of animate and they're like alien skulls and this alien spaceship takes off and everything like that.
01:00:08
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So I bring that up, A, because ah they were interested in that. But I know that you are I don't know if you're making a movie of it or what you're you're doing some research and some interesting things with crystal skulls, correct?
01:00:22
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I was yeah. So that, that project has kind of fallen to the wayside for the moment. Um, but yeah, I was, uh, very involved. I was following, the skull keeper, Bill Holman around with the Mitchell hedges school and, working on a project and yeah, unfortunately it, uh, it took some twists and turns and it was an amazing adventure and journey, but, uh, I, I kind of left that one.
01:00:45
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We had to let that one go. Okay. well Well, anyway, it's it's a super interesting topic, and and I know that that has come up in in a number of channelings and yeah about some of the information that they contain, and and that will, I suppose, come out at some point.
01:01:02
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Yeah, I think, I mean, that for me in my journey, there definitely is a, I saw a lot of people having interactions with the skull that was just unexplainable. You know, they talk about the mysteries of of of our planet. That was definitely yeah interesting to watch how people would get downloads and interact with the consciousness and, uh, and there was information being exchanged on a telepathic or energetic level.
01:01:31
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ah no doubt, you know, the hundreds of people that I saw interact with this, the skulls, um, and, and how they would react to it. It was, it was fascinating. What are they, where are they considered from their origin?
01:01:45
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Is it, ah Well, there's different theories and ideas. um I think different tribes have different, ah there's different skulls for the different groups. Now there's this, the legend of the 13 skulls, right, which is ah sort of been a big part of the the metaphysical spiritual world.
01:02:05
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And even Bashar. talks about a council of 13 at, uh, during the times of Atlantis. And, then there's this idea of the 13 grandmothers that were, um, uh, imbued with a skull or took on, they took a skull and each skull was, uh, imbued with, uh, different information, ah regarding different cultures and histories and,
01:02:31
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um and uh sort of humanity's true history and then that at the right time uh the legend goes at the right time these skulls would then surface and humanity would access the information as sort of like a time capsule um type concept i had heard that i didn't realize that the skulls were involved in that interesting yeah yeah there's and there's also that i've heard ah of discs that there's these different crystal disks, similar to the skull phenomenon, where ah these in these crystal disk-shaped objects also have information.
01:03:11
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um ah The Pleiades have talked about that. So it's it's, again, these are different storylines, different people bringing them through in different ways, and there's a lot of overlap.
01:03:25
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Um, and there's a lot, there's a lot of, you know, this person says this and that person says that and it doesn't quite match. So, I tend to look for the places where they match as opposed to looking for where they don't match.
01:03:38
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Yeah.

Mysteries of Crystal Skulls and Energies

01:03:38
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And, uh, uh, and you know, going with that, it's more exciting. And it, and again, it keeps the door open for, more to come. Uh, and it's, it's fun. It's ah it's like, yeah, it's like an Indiana Jones movie, no doubt.
01:03:53
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Yeah. ah Very well, man. oh Well, listen, what a ah Chris Bledsoe, I wanted to ask you this. ah Yeah. He recently, well, the last time we talked, there was he had not aired on sean the ru the Sean Ryan show.
01:04:10
Speaker
Right, right. I haven't caught that one yet. but but Okay. Oh, well, then I don't want to spoil for you then. No, no, go ahead. I'll listen ill eventually listen to more the board of the platforms. He made a prediction.
01:04:23
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Okay, I think I caught the prediction with the, with the East, uh, is it Easter? What day was it? It's ah was like Easter, like March, 2026, um, 2026. Yeah. the Sphinx and the alignment, right?
01:04:36
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The alignment with the star Regulus and yeah talked about, you know, Robert Edward Grant and this type of thing. What, uh, what is your best guess? What do you think we're going to see?
01:04:49
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You know, I think it'll ultimately it'll turn out to be a but a nothing burger in the sense that I think we've had so many astrological alignments over just the past few years of different energies coming into the planet.
01:05:04
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And, and though the energies have been intense, um it's, again, the way they come through is
01:05:18
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the you know, the ETs in my interviews, we talk about ah one of the universal laws is free will. and And we have, and and these beings take that quite seriously. They honor free will.
01:05:32
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And they do everything in their power to sort of make those subtle influences on humanity to steer humanity to drive ah the evolution in a positive light. And there's negative forces doing their what may be not so subtle ways to to push humanity in a negative light. but yeah um But overall, I think there's a lot of positive energies flooding the planet right now.
01:05:57
Speaker
And, uh, and most people are oblivious to it. You know, it's not on the nightly news, you know, oh, we're now currently getting, you know, uh, uh, uh, you know, positive frequencies from the Octarian star system that are helping the evolution of, of the planet. That's not really being advertised on night, night, nightly TV.
01:06:19
Speaker
So I think there, you know, i I'm sure as there has been alignments in portals and different, um, positive energies flowing through the planet, uh, on a regular basis, I'm sure this one is probably a big, a big one, and I'm sure energies are going to pour through, but as far as that manifesting into a physical.
01:06:41
Speaker
Outcome of something that the whole world can go, aha, here we go. I I'm gonna probably say that's that's not gonna happen I'm gonna say probably energetically those sensitive to the energy could probably feel it and feel a ah pouring in of of positive energy that that again goes through the different energy grids of the system and and then helps raise the evolution of the planet but um you know, these, and I'm sure Chris is tied into that energy quite strongly. So he's feeling that and getting the direct messages on that and giving people heads up, which i don't think there's anything wrong with that.
01:07:25
Speaker
But I think having expectations of, you know, uh, a giant, uh, you know, uh, um, you know, light coming out and awakening the world to a new reality. And all sudden, we're all going to have this new perspective on on on things and the world's going liberated.
01:07:47
Speaker
I think we're going through that as a process right now. I don't, I don't think that's going to be like ah a one event kind of thing. Yeah. um Yeah. It'll be interesting to see how things play out for sure. Yeah.
01:07:59
Speaker
And it, and it has been playing out. And I think what happens is just, just to give, you know, my two cents, what happens is we're so focused on this event or that event or this date or that,
01:08:11
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that we miss it's happening right now, guys, it's, you know, just open, turn on social media. Look at all the massive changes that are happening on the globe right now in a positive sense. Of course, a lot of people are screaming, you know, it's the end of the world and all this stuff.
01:08:28
Speaker
It is, it's the end of the old world. We're moving into a new world very rapidly.

Embracing Global Consciousness Shifts

01:08:32
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Disclosure is happening. ah name Big shifts are happening on a global stage where the old paradigm is collapsing and new paradigms are getting put into place that are you know decentralized. ah Bitcoin, adoption of of of a Bitcoin reserve, when a lot of people, there's a lot of doom and gloom to that scenario, but there's a lot of positiveness too when you look at it at a...
01:08:57
Speaker
ah compared to what we've been dealing with, right? With Federal Reserve and non-transparent monetary systems and central banks and central bank digital currencies and all these types of things. There's a lot of positivity happening right now that I think we're just so focused on this event, this date, this thing, and then it's going to be okay. And then it's going to be okay. you know So just to, yes, this is part of the process. Yes, to at all. Yes to Chris Bledsoe and And 2026, I absolutely don't doubt that that day is going to be very significant and that there's going to be some awesome stuff happening.
01:09:34
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But it's it's not the by focusing too hard on that date or this thing, we're kind of missing all the amazing, yeah lovely things going on right now.
01:09:47
Speaker
it's ah I think you put out on Twitter the other day, was like a ah ah graphic of like the present moment and just how it fluctuates and you know between the the past and the present.
01:09:59
Speaker
But you're right. I mean, the the mindfulness of the moment, ah all these things happening now, and you can lose track of it if you're looking too far ahead. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's great. I love, you know, predictions. I love having goals and and moving and and looking at these things and understanding, but I think big picture, ah is yes. And, and it's, it's always a yes. And so yes, that's that.
01:10:24
Speaker
And we're right now is, is really a time of, of great shifts and, amazing, ah positive things happening on the planet that, uh,
01:10:35
Speaker
ah You know, if we're if we're too focused on the other stuff, then we miss we miss the beauty that's happening right now. Yeah. Excellent. ah Ruben,
01:10:47
Speaker
what would you like people to sort of take away from kind of your work and and and what you got going on now?
01:10:56
Speaker
Well, ah take away. i think, you know, I think just, again, we're in this time of disclosures. And for a lot of people right now, it can be quite overwhelming because if you, if it hasn't been, if you've just sort of been living your day-to-day life and not paying attention to all of these conspiracies, right? That have been UFOs, JFK assassinations, 9-11, you know, government corruption.
01:11:25
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ah If you've been in it for a while, it's like, oh yeah, it's so it's whatever, it's par for the course. But if it if you're sort of new to it, you know believe the crumbling of belief systems, and that's what the the UFO thread, that's why i've been it's been I've been pushing that narrative for so long and and saying, hey guys, you know follow this this this breadcrumb because it I think it's the master thread, two of them all.
01:11:50
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um where you realize that the world that we live in has been ah sort of designed and constructed for us to be limited in our in our perspectives and outlooks and understandings.
01:12:06
Speaker
So that's all kind of coming apart right now, which for many people is quite scary because it's it's moving out of the comfort zone. There's a... there's ah There's a comfort to limitation.
01:12:21
Speaker
yeah And as that crumbles, a lot of people are losing their minds. um And ah my advice would be just to get out of your mind and get into the heart and continue to feel into o what really matters, which is family, community, um you know, your...
01:12:45
Speaker
are you Are you okay as a person? ah Most likely, yes. you know Most people ah through these big shifts, some people are you know like the the disasters, the California fires in North Carolina and these things, people are losing their physical well-being in their homes. And and yet, yes, that's for sure. That's not easy.
01:13:05
Speaker
I couldn't even imagine what what yeah people are dealing with. But generally on a global level, I think a lot of the drama that we're seeing is um people getting upset and triggered and um and Not because of anything that's physically happening to them in their community, but more of just what's being projected through the through their through the news and through their crumbling of certain belief systems.
01:13:36
Speaker
yeah um So just to go back into the heart and to realize that that's that's that all that whole world is an illusion anyways, you know the interwebs. yeah i It's like, can you touch it? Can you taste it? Can you feel it?
01:13:51
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It's just images on a screen, words, images, narratives, storylines. So let all that kind of fall to the wayside. go into what really matters, which is, you know, your, your, your, well, your, you, yourself, your, your day to day activities and how you navigate as a human on this planet.
01:14:11
Speaker
and allow allow this all to play out uh because there's a greater plan that mother Gaia all the different ETs all the different angels and other entities around us have had for this planet for a long time uh for the planet's evolution and uh yes is Armageddon yes it's It's the ah destruction of the old paradigms and we're moving into a new.
01:14:41
Speaker
So just allow it to play out. Be gentle to yourself. Be gentle to your your your loved ones. um and and And have a little more allowance and acceptance.
01:14:52
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and And don't get so hung up on the the the little details. but Let the bigger picture play out. It's ah yeah, there's a lot. You just unpacked a lot.
01:15:05
Speaker
ah There's a lot of good stuff in that. ah But just are getting into the heart, our the the interconnectedness, our common humanity, um caring for one another, supporting and encouraging and being kind to one another.
01:15:19
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Building each other up. the The COVID years were was, I think, a big ah big challenge for a lot of people because you know so much fear was was projected through through the interwebs and things that people And people bought into those narratives and lost their their connections. And um that was a very unfortunate.
01:15:46
Speaker
So just to remind people that ah now that we're through that, ah it's it's you know some people still may not be on board of this, but there is plenty of evidence to show that the whole thing was a giant psyop.
01:16:00
Speaker
and was a created event to create separation on the planet. ah And we sort of needed to go through that to help people, i think, discern um for themselves what is, ah you know, to disconnect from these narratives, to disconnect from the media, disconnect from government officials telling you to do this and that.
01:16:22
Speaker
And that was its purpose overall on a grander scale. But we, you know, that's not reality. It's the the it's not really what's going on. and Well, that's I mean, that's the thing, right? when you talk about mindfulness awareness, it doesn't care. It doesn't matter what I believe or not. Right. Like your awareness, when you start seeing through things or seeing things for what they really are. Yeah.
01:16:45
Speaker
It's it like you said, it's hard to go back. You can't really. Yeah, yeah. there's And and and and
01:16:56
Speaker
the big thing that we have to look forward to is we're we're moving into a new era, a new planet, a new way of doing things. New energy is coming into this planet, which is very exciting. yeah Not many people can believe that right now with all the challenges that are at that are happening. Yeah.
01:17:12
Speaker
What has always happened ah through history is when we meet these challenges, ah we always come out on the other side stronger and better and um and ah with greater insights. So I would say instead of fearing and running, you know meet these challenges, embrace a new belief system, be open to ah something new or different that perhaps your neighbor or friend or family member is is, is, uh, uh, telling or sharing, um, doesn't mean you have to buy into it all at once, but just be open to listening to what it is and, and pick like Bruce Lee says, you know, take what's useful, disregard what's useless for you.
01:17:59
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And then ultimately make whatever it is your own. So these are, uh, uh, these are the times to be doing that.
01:18:08
Speaker
So after all of this, we end with hope and optimism. Absolutely. it's so Otherwise, you buy you again you like where you might as well put a gun to your head and say, okay, what well why am I wasting energy and time here?
01:18:24
Speaker
Well, it's one of those things, you know, it's like, OK, you see like we're COVID or this fear and all this other stuff. It's like, oh, man, when is this going to end or will it ever end? And it's like, wait a minute, we're going to get through this. It's going to happen.
01:18:35
Speaker
And oh now now we're there. We're in it. Things are unfolding now. So it is an exciting time. There is hope. There is optimism. So, yeah, and you and you are You are holding true to your mission. You are you're educating a ton of people at your website, with your community, your work, your podcast, your TV show.
01:19:00
Speaker
ah You know, you're you're doing to create a really awesome job, man. I really appreciate what you do. And you've been very helpful to me in my life. So thank you. Well, thank you. i appreciate it. And I'm excited that everybody's excited about the same kind of stuff I'm excited about.
01:19:18
Speaker
that's Well, that's true, man. I'm like, it's funny when you learn about some of this stuff, it's like, all right, now I want to talk to somebody about it. And who do I have to talk to? Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
01:19:29
Speaker
That's funny. Well, listen, man, I thank you so much. I appreciate it. And, uh, you know, well, I'll put links to your website and your community and, uh, your TV show, uh, because I do want people to check it out and learn, learn some things and, uh, you know, but some of the awesome work that you're doing.
01:19:47
Speaker
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, we have a great community over at interviewwithed.com.org. And it's ah I've slowed down a little bit. I i was going strong with it for the past few years, but now it's ah we've got an amazing archive of interviews and other information on there and still doing stuff and more on a monthly basis than a weekly basis. But yeah, it's posting stuff on there.
01:20:14
Speaker
Yeah, it's really great, man. I've been enjoying catching up on there's all these other um there's a lot more than just channeling. There's a lot of really practical advice on all kinds of stuff.
01:20:27
Speaker
um that is worth worth people's time to go check out. So so absolutely. Yes, yes. Thank you, thank you. Yeah, gardening, from gardening to, I don't know, what else are we doing there? we have oh You had a whole video. Making coffee. make I watched a video make cosmic coffee.
01:20:44
Speaker
Cosmic coffee, exactly, yes. with well go i mean that was really interesting to me too this going back to the water right like blessing the water uh more is it morimoto is that uh dr emoto dr emoto um just and that you know whole thing is is super fascinating we didn't even talk about that but that's you know very there's so many things about the earth and water and the elements and everything else that's uh really helpful and grounding and
01:21:15
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And that's what's exciting about the future here is really those aspects of nature and water and understanding the structured water and and its importance is going to open the, it is already opening the door to a whole slew of new technologies ah that I believe were going to really help humanity ah get through this sort of heavier time of, you know, poisons and chemicals and different things that when we realize the power of structured water and the power of frequency and vibration, we are ah we we really can clean up this planet quite rapidly when we put our focus and intention to it. It's another aspect of things that are going to be exciting to see unfold for sure.
01:22:02
Speaker
Absolutely. It's happening. and I'll do my best to keep reporting on it. Hey, man. Well, hopefully we talk again. But again, thank you so much. Thank you, James.
01:22:13
Speaker
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