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Threats From Every Direction
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Foreign threats, domestic threats, planetary threats! Even threats within your family and from your podcast cohost!
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Do You Want a 'Piece of Shit' in Your Life?
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Do you want a piece of shit in your life? Do you want a piece of shit in your life if you do?
Matt's Disdain for America and Imported Wood
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Matt, why do you hate America?
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wood into this country, forcing it on good white Americans?
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why do you hate america bringing in your dirty foreign wood into this country forcing it on good white americans i think I think we might be getting hit with a tariff down here, 15%.
Tariffs and Baseball: The Otani Phenomenon
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Oh, my God. But we'll just pass that along.
00:00:53
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Do it. Pass that along, dude. I would like to talk about your favorite sport opening up, which you're going to – baseball. don't know if you're aware, but maybe the greatest athletic performance in the history of sports happened last Friday.
00:01:09
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I saw it from a foreigner. The Japanese are the bat they're still my favorite people by by a long shot. But how can we have a foreigner fucking do that here?
00:01:22
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We're giving them 700 million. it It is greater than any. He's the greatest athlete maybe ever. I used to think it was Bo Jackson, but what he's doing is is truly insane.
00:01:33
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So it would basically be like if every play, every like during a football game, Tom Brady, let's say Joe Montana, threw a touchdown and jumped on the other side of the ball was Ronnie Lott.
00:01:44
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The same game and played 140 plays. It's dominating at at that level on both sides of the ball. Okay, it's a little hyperbole there because we're talking about swinging a bat and throwing a little ball.
00:01:57
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Right. So I would say you're right as fat as far as the football analogy is not sufficient enough for what he's doing since it's the most the hardest sport. I see where you're going with that.
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ah So this guy goes out and and hits three bombs that are – one of them left Dodger Stadium, and they've been playing there since the fifty s I don't know if that's ever been done.
Immigration, Foreign Talent, and Policy Risks
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Hits three home runs, and then he throws essentially like,
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the nastiest fucking six innings of pitching that that you could possibly throw. Did he pay his H-1B visa for 100 grand? Because he's a forwarder. And why are we celebrating forwarders?
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Does he? Because they're better, dude. That's why I'm celebrating. Yeah, it's interesting. it's i mean that is Do you think that's the bad part of the U.S. or the good part where it's kind of like money and talent gives you a different out different outlook than than somebody who's like struggling to survive and crossing the border.
00:02:55
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I mean, I know it sounds ridiculous, right? But like you think it's the good part of what drives the U.S. or the bad part? I think we need both. that what you're asking? Because we need both sides. but I mean, they have access. They can get it done. like There's no way that guy's getting denied at the border. Shohei Otani is not getting sent back by by ice right?
00:03:15
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Because he can do something that we can't. Yeah, and I think though we're at risk with some of the policies now, though, of of keeping really good, talented people, maybe not professional sports, but keeping talented people out of this country, especially in the medical field and the tech fields and in the research fields, all all sorts of research.
Foreign Leaders and Nationalism in U.S. Companies
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That's a risk, dude, for this country. Yeah, but and not not a normal, I think, for a lot of countries. like I think a lot of countries protect their people more than us Yeah, but four of the top seven companies that are leading the stock market craze, dude, are foreign-born leaders.
00:03:57
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Including your boy Elon. Including Elon, the guy you love. What happened to Elon? He shut his mouth or something like that. he go back to work or what? I guess. He shut his fucking trap, dude, and went back to work. and i guess the sales are picking up.
00:04:12
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So just picture... Tom Brady leads a 15-play drive, throws a touchdown pass, goes and gets a glass of water, come kick off, boom, he's Ray Lewis.
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Comes back out, he's Ray Lewis. He um he has 18 solo tackles and three sacks in a game. That's what Otani's doing. I know. who's ah whos ah Who do you consider the best defensive NBA player of all time? Is it Dikembe?
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Can't be Dikembe, right? No. Ben Wallace? No. Oh, I liked him, yeah. I don't know. I have to think. have to ponder. Because there's so many recent studs.
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I want it to be known as more of a look thing than a race thing. But if you saw Ben Wallace in a dark alley in his prime, he would scare the fuck out of you. Right? With that um wicked fro and the size and the... Okay.
00:05:05
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He's a beast. Yeah. If he wasn't smiling, I'd i'd be scared. Yeah, like if jo if Jordan was... ah so I was trying to explain this to my son. jordan i mean Jordan was a decent defensive player, but you could not dominate both sides of ball as much as Otani's doing in basketball because you would just be spent by the end of the game.
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Even in baseball. yeah Yeah. and I'm saying in basketball, it beat you couldn't i don't know if you could dominate both sides of the ball what he's doing, but if Jordan was Dikembe on the other end of the court or Ben Wallace, I can't think of like a great defense. Maybe Rodman?
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So you had Jordan ah you had jordan that won on the offensive side of the ball and then Rodman. Rodman's defense back when he was young playing with the Pistons. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Otani, dude. That's what he's doing.
00:05:52
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ah Yeah, with with kind of half-assed athletic activity. Although pitching is pretty tiring. Dude.
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It's very half-assed. I mean, batting, come on. There's not a lot to batting. There's not a lot of physical exertion. This guy fucking, he went 50-50 last year. He hit 50 home runs and stole 50 bases. I mean, that that is like truly insane. Again, that is like ah defensive lineman that also runs for 2,000 yards.
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Oh, he's great. He's great. I just think, and I'm going to keep pulling you back in, that it's funny that he's foreign.
Immigration, Diversity, and Talent's Impact on the U.S.
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And we celebrate him while we disparage all these other people. Well, do you know you know that the Dodgers, i don't know how deep you are. i know i mean, they're theyre they just went crazy and were like, let's let's build a champion team with money. And they did. But three of their core players are Japanese.
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And they're like the stars of the team. they have so many stars, it's hard to say just them. But they're basically, their ace pitcher, Yamamoto, and they're they're their main closer right now, Suzuki or Sasaki.
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I can't remember his last name. And then Otani. And all together, i think in a day, it was like a billion dollars worth of contracts. Are you serious? Yeah.
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Otani's 700 million. I'll give you the the word on Yamamoto. He's, but he was, he was dominating Japan. I remember when I, when I was, ah when I was doing the the English classes, Japanese people, they're always like, this guy Yamamoto's coming over.
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He's, he's, there's nothing else for him to do over here in Japan. He's like a young dude and his, his pitching was so dominant.
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Yeah. But I think it's awesome. Well, he's kind of like, Well, Atani is kind of like another star we know from NVIDIA, Jensen Wong. 12 a year, 325 million. Yeah, so they're all in. They're over they're over a billion in country.
00:07:50
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But I think, I mean, you should love it because it kind of flies in the face of just the whole the whole revolution, anti-foreign revolution. You've got these foreigners dominating the American pastime.
00:08:01
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And I know it's not what it used to be, but it's like, That should be the rally cry. Like, look, these people are making the U.S. better. at any level, if you come here and make the U.S. better and make yourself better, then why not?
00:08:14
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No, of course I do. um Obviously, the beginning was so satire. You need a hockey example? Is that what you're waiting for, then? No, I like that. I like that. And I like that about our country.
00:08:25
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Look, you go into rural America and go into a hospital and it's like Indian people and fucking, you know, people from Pakistan because you can't find enough white doctors. I mean, um I'm speculating from where they're from, but they're they're not always white Americans.
00:08:40
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I find it this this stuff we're doing right now with immigration to be pretty fucked up. And I like the idea that top talent can come in here and make this country better, dude.
Open Borders and Economic Benefits: A Debate
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For sure. So top talent should be able to do that. But also, i feel like anyone is not a criminal should be able to. to to really go anywhere in the world. I mean, I keep coming back to it, but it's not just the US that does.
00:09:08
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yeah I mean, I don't think I could go work in the EU right now, for example, or stuff like that. like Everybody has their controls. It's just the way we're doing it. don't know. I just think it should be easier to move around the world. I mean, it's a global society now. it's it's if Everything is intertwined.
00:09:25
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It should be easy for anyone to work and move around the world, and the investment should be put into that. weeding out bad, you know, weeding out bad people that you don't want in your country, but essentially making it faster for someone to come and work and pay taxes. That's where the investment should be.
00:09:40
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I agree. Let's talk philosophical on that though. Like, what do you think about open borders? And let me give it a little preface. if If you found allies, democratic countries where at least foundational principles were similar terms of the rule of law and some other basics, why not open borders?
00:09:58
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Yeah, wonder, so what we're talking about, like, what is Mexico that, and that, kind that does that fall into that, that classification of country? As far as I know, Mexican, Mexico has some sort of a democracy and whatever. I would think so. I would think of a lot of Central America, to be honest.
00:10:16
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Yeah. Could, could benefit from just like, let it, let it open up, let the honkies come in and spend their money all over the place. and let people from those countries bounce up and get better jobs than they might otherwise, and let it all get better.
00:10:34
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If you believe in capitalism, I don't like i just don't I don't believe I'm not I'm a non-believer in all this. Like, is there ah is there a real issue, border issue? It just seems like a news cycle that people focus on it for political.
00:10:48
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Like, what is the issue? Have you ever had an issue in your life because the border wasn't secure? The issue, dude, is racism straight up. And I don't want to sound like a woke bitch, but it is straight up.
00:11:00
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You look around your neighborhood and you see a bunch of brown people and the world has changed and that's bullshit and fuck that. I don't know how you get around that. I don't want to talk about racism because it tires me out, but it's straight up. I mean, I don't see any other reason.
00:11:16
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I just think it's it's just to keep the... keep the machines running. Like you gotta have something to talk about and point fingers at. And it works. I mean, it does work, dude.
00:11:27
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Yeah, it works, but they love it. They love to hate on the Browns, but you know, where we work, where we might align in this polarized society is hate on the tech technocrats.
Amazon's Influence and Small Business Demise
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These new, these leaders, what's it like working with Amazon for your business?
00:11:42
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Like how much are they taking? Uh, working with them? Well, I haven't, I got, you haven't been able to get it going. No, we have something. Actually, what I'm what i'm working on right now, we're getting these floating shelves going. I think that's going to be the direction we're going to go with them. But, yeah, I mean, they take they take their cut.
00:12:00
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They take their money. I mean, I don't know. I could go back and forth on that. Like, I think they're killing all small business and sort of brick-and-mortar shops. And they're also... Increasing exposure for some businesses. Yeah, but also just, like, extremely convenient. Yeah.
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Especially for me, like, because I'm ordering stuff for my company for the guys in St. Louis and the weather busy and and it's like, hit this, get this. yeah umm I'm still full boy boycott of that company.
Skepticism Towards Technocrats and AI
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But I mean, it's not just Amazon, like Walmart, Costco, all those places. Like, it's just shifted. Like, where you're gonna where are you going to go to buy stuff? I mean, you go to like a mall in the U.S. now, it's like desolate.
00:12:42
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a lot of them, unless they're like awesome, you know, and people just like to hang out there, but like they're closing like the main mall, and nice mall in st Louis. They're about to close. They just closed another one. I went to some outlet stores when up there. It was like,
00:12:55
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It's a rough crowd hanging out there. Like, I don't know. I think that Amazon, but it's is it just Amazon? I don't know. It's like we're shifting. No, it's all the technocrats with their AI dominance bullshit. But I mean, um I love the poors.
00:13:10
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You know, um'm I'm more like Jesus, bro, where like you serve the poor, you welcome a stranger. um I'm all about that. I'm all about walking the path of Jesus, the real path of Jesus, not the fake path of Jesus, where Jesus said, kill the trans, kill the immigrants.
Political Protests and Media Portrayal
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I think, though, there is there's a possibility that people could come together on this anti oligarchy, anti tech thing. in the future because it's starting to get a little out of hand and scary. people People don't want to say it. It's coming, though.
00:13:43
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People want to say it because they don't want to come across socialist. Is that more scary you than the political climate? I don't know, dude. I don't know anyone now that's not talking about the political climate.
00:13:57
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Like it's, so the shutdown is of course affects my wife because she's not going to get paid. I think specifically for her telehealth visits for some reason, friend of mine is not getting paid because he's a federal agent, but the shutdown is one thing. And then just absurdity, the big protests.
00:14:14
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It's funny. I forgot about the shutdown. I know. Yeah, it doesn't. It's like, I don't know, man. I wanted to not talk about politics, but... I was trying to talk about Shohei.
00:14:26
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Well, it's just just a recap. I mean, we could talk a about what we've done over the last few days. Part of it for you was the the Million Liberals March, or whatever you call it. No kings.
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and Part of it was no kings. I've been
Costa Rica Adventures: A Simpler Life
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out in the freaking jungle, dude. I sent you some pics. ah I was, i took my son out for his birthday and then I was, i was the guy, and the guide just to get this a little bit off of where I'm at.
00:14:53
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It's like modeling my life, not, not worrying about the shit that you're talking about. Uh, yeah, yeah. I want to hear it. have to, right. Cause I'm like, Oh yeah, tariffs and whatever, but I don't care. But that like, so we climbed this tropical mountain. i mean it was like the fucking never ending staircase through the jungle, Satan sloths. And there was actually Puma at our camp. So we, we hiked up this place.
00:15:15
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But this guy, and then you get, you get up like on top of the mountain, there's kind of a camp where they have like, uh, you know, where we slept in tents and they have like an outdoor kitchen, some bathrooms and stuff, and they're remodeling it.
00:15:27
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So the guide, the guide does this every day, just like a straight up hike. He does it every day with people, but then he also does like the work up there for them. And he's just bouncing around like he doesn't give a shit.
00:15:38
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And then, uh, And then another guy was up there, like the one morning we woke up, the morning we woke up there, there was a guy sitting there drinking coffee and he had just, he's like yeah, I do this like every day. He was like carrying roof, roof pieces up up this mountain.
00:15:52
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It was just like pretty chill. I doubt these guys are making a lot of money, but as you can imagine, pretty relaxed. in shape, not like weird in shape, like US s in shape.
00:16:03
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Like giant calves. Giant asses and just like, yeah, not just look like guys that like tropical Sherpas basically. Yeah, just lean. Yeah.
00:16:14
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But I will say the dude was on his phone a lot because his family, like he has to leave his family at like a day or at a time or whatever, because, uh, you know, he's sleeping up on the mountain with us. I guess there was like a Puma walking around our camp at night.
00:16:27
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Some other shit. Some kind of monkeys, but we didn't we didn't get it. But this is like the middle of nowhere in the campo. And like you could just see these guys are pretty happy dudes.
00:16:40
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This guy was one of 18 children. It's like an old school, traditional Catholic Costa Rican family. And, uh, and, and like the Southern part of the country, 18 fucking kids. Can you imagine that?
00:16:51
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Oh my God. That woman, what a hero, dude. How much did it cost us dollars to to have the guide and have that experience? Uh, we also did rappel down this, this waterfall. I think I sent you some pictures. Like it wasn't the biggest rappel ever, but 35 meters, like a hundred feet down this rock face, which is scary as fuck. Actually.
00:17:11
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got it. Have you ever done that? I've never done that. I've jumped into a pool of water from a cliff like you did, but. Yeah. In the tropics. Yeah. So we did, we did that. We did some cliff diving off a beautiful blue lagoon waterfall in the middle the jungle.
00:17:27
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It was okay. and that And then, and then, uh, yeah. So then you go, we, you hike down to this place and like, When you do the rappel, you've got to, and like, I'm sure grandmas did it. This is like a guided tour, but Costa Rica is way more chill. Like there's no, there's no insurance forms or bunch of people managing it. It's just this guy's like, here, you just grab the rope and lean back and you're looking down and you're like, ah, I'm dead.
00:17:52
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I'm dead. If anything goes wrong. So you got to go out on the edge, walk backwards, and then you lean back. So your body is almost like perpendicular the ground. That is the sketchiest part. And then the rope kind of gives you tension and you just kind of feed the rope down the rock.
00:18:05
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But you get like halfway down and there's no rock. You're just like dangling in the air because the rock curves into a cave underneath the waterfall, which is those pictures that I sent you where we were like in a cave behind five waterfalls.
00:18:16
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Also, not bad. And that's where we ate lunch. Was it a new rope or was it frayed kind of third world frayed? No, it was, they were legit climbing, climbing things, but, um, climbing things. Yeah. I mean, it all looked fine.
00:18:33
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So how much? Oh, so it was, so what the rappel, I think it was one, it was 118, I think with the guide, three meals, the place to stay uh, $118 per person.
00:18:47
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yeah And I think the rappel was like another 40, so they get you. Oh, dude, you couldn't touch an experience like that in Colorado for 150 each. Yeah, I could have haggled a little bit. but Yeah, that would be just the tip after a raping a rafting expedition, the tip itself. I think we took our family rafting, including our grandparents and everything.
00:19:15
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Well, tipped 300. Oh, yeah. The tipped 300. got to get that. I got to tip that guy. Yeah. So, yeah, it was great. And it was just there was nobody else on the tour. So it's basically private tour. that was my other question.
00:19:29
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Where were all the people? Because I was thinking i was just comparing it to America because now it's like hate on America time for me. anything I can do to convince myself to leave. But I saw nobody else there in your videos. And you were, it was like a panorama of the entire cave and waterfall area. there was not a single other person.
00:19:48
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How is that possible? I mean, it was a Monday and and it's pretty far south. i mean, you got to drive far south. Yeah, they they didn't, they he said they had a tour on the day before and they had a couple come at the end of the week, but it's pretty far out there.
00:20:01
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But yeah, well it wasn't ah it's not too busy right now in Costa costa Rica because ah you know you fat fucks or your kids are in school and the rest of the world has to work while you guys take your six weeks of vacation a year.
00:20:16
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Speaking of fat fucks, I didn't feel like I got enough response from you from that picture of those National Guards tubs that deployed to Chicago and they were coming out of the truck and they were all at least 260.
Military Fitness and Societal Tensions
00:20:28
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two sixty What do you want me to say, dude? Well, you're just too busy now. You would have gone on and on about that for at least five or six different chats.
00:20:39
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Pete Hickseth demands fitness excellence. Hold on, dude. When was this? It was always a while ago. Oh, you sent me the one of the guys screaming.
00:20:53
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Well, that one. Oh, this thing. Yeah, yeah. Did I even say anything? Texas calls Nashville for some the heavy. It said Drew's mockery. I just LOL'd you, huh? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it almost read like an Onion article.
00:21:08
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The whole news reads like an Onion article. It's quite interesting. Heavyset. That's something my dad would say. He's heavyset. Now, a friend of mine, Tyler,
00:21:23
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who's listening to this suffering through these, some of these episodes, but he sent me that. We love you, Ty. sent me that video of that white dude cheering for ice and then calling dudes a faggot, then getting his glasses stolen and then he's running through the street, falling all over the place.
00:21:41
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He got tripped once. What'd you think of that video? Dope trip. Dude, the whole thing is just so pathetic. like What did you think? So stereotypical. Were you sad for the guy? ah were you happy when he fell? Were you like, oh God, that's great. Or were you sad?
00:21:55
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I mean, I was sad for many different reasons. It's like the this the whole thing was like he was he was just a right wing fucking idiot. But i'm I'm sure in the moment, though, he probably got caught up in and decided he's going to rock the boat.
00:22:07
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You know, maybe he's a nice guy. The glasses. It's just one of those things are like can never nothing nice. Can't do anything nice. You know, like even that But even the pro the left is so funny, though, dude, because it's so clear that they're like left because they're so soft and their aggression.
Media, Technology, and Public Behavior
00:22:23
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And it's just like they need like, i don't know.
00:22:26
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was some idiot like Vin Diesel as theyre as like the guy being like, don't you fucking come in here. You're going the beat out you. It's like, you better leave. You better go, sir. Are you going to get beat up? It was just so left and soft.
00:22:39
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it It was like. Well, they were trying to trip him. And they were saying, beat his fucking ass. I mean, they were. They even thought, though, trip him? Come on, dude. That was a dope trip, though. and that was pretty It was pretty dangerous. I mean, he almost hit his head on the curb.
00:22:55
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Yeah, and then that guy was screaming. did it You were down there. Did you see anything like that? was it pretty peaceful? Well, that was in Portland, I think. In Denver? No, that wasn't Denver? No, that wasn't Denver. Denver was...
00:23:08
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completely chill. there were nobody came Nobody on Trump supporters didn't come out or they did? I didn't see any counter protesters. How many people do you think were there? Look at the picture you shot. was a big crowd. Thousands and thousands. I can't tell you how much. i think Because there's so many different protests across the state, different cities.
00:23:25
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It's a pretty liberal state now, I think. Did you get I don't... did you Was there a response? Like either from the president or the or anyone?
00:23:36
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Are you fucking joking? No. you didn't so That was Saturday, dude. And then I've been in the... You were in the jungle. Yeah. Well, he came out with a video. I feel like I'm like explaining the news here.
00:23:47
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He came out ah um with a video flying in like an F-15 with a king ah crown on. excuse me He's flying it. It's like an AI video. And then he's showing literally dropping diarrhea on protesters across the nation.
00:24:02
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That's what he released in response to the protests.
00:24:07
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it worked. and And everyone loved it, right? Oh yeah. The supporters? Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. But one of the points I was trying to make to some people about that video of the with the white dude is I think there was just a lot more respect pre-phones in my era.
00:24:28
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And you know, I grew up in the hood while you grew up in a lavish, beautiful home with steak gum and snacks and all kinds of good stuff. but In my era, and our era, pre-phones, pre-cameras everywhere, I don't know that that guy taunts a crowd of young people like that.
00:24:47
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I just don't think he does. I think they would, you would literally get the fucking shit beat out of you. Right. i would ah I would throw a punch so, i don't know, I would throw a punch back then so much quicker than I would ever possibly consider it at this point.
00:25:03
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Because you know you're getting filmed? there's no con the consequences are different. Yeah. You're going to get filmed. You're going to get prosecuted. Even a sadistic little psycho is going to find a way to get a lawyer and come after you, uh, with these phones and cameras.
00:25:20
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I just can't imagine like, yeah I don't know. My dad was a Republican. I've known Republicans. you imagine him or anyone we're running through the streets of a protest yelling, you faggots, and and let's go ICE. and it's like It's also just, it's it's it's created this wacky group of people that you're like,
00:25:39
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what are you what are you doing, you know? But it's just such a different era where, I mean, fighting happened all the time. That was like a ah resolution, almost like in hockey, right? It was like, have your fight, get it over with, and move on, right?
00:25:53
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Right, right, right, right. But I think people are bold. Well, they're super bold online, but they're real bold with their words, and and it doesn't feel as risky anymore, although that guy kind of got fucked up.
00:26:06
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it just Was that being celebrated, you think? like People are like, good, he got what he deserves. it Is that what that is? Is that like a super viral thing? I don't know. I have no idea. I just got it from Tyler.
00:26:19
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So he was just walking down the street yelling faggot and whatever. And then someone came up and just stole his sunglasses. Right? Well, he was screaming at the protesters was saying, let's go ice. God bless Trump. god Let's go ice. God bless Trump. And then, and then some guy riding on a bike said something. I couldn't hear it in the video. And he's like, fuck you, you fucking faggot ride your bike.
00:26:39
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Oh yeah. And then some kid ski with a skateboard came up and just snatched his glasses and started running. And then the guys chased after him and fell on his face. And then somebody tripped him as he got up and he really fell on his face and he's bleeding pretty hard.
Impact of Trump Rallies on Society
00:26:53
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And then bunch of really nonsensical communication ensued after that.
00:26:59
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Come on, bro. Get the fuck out of here, bro. People are going to fuck you up, bro. he went He went back to get his glasses. Well, he kept sprinting after somebody to get his glasses. Yeah.
00:27:11
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I don't even know if he knew who he was spreading after, but I just thought it was funny that he you know he would be bold enough to taunt some young people. I don't remember that being a possibility in my day. Yeah, especially not ah an adult. Maybe like on a college campus where kids are getting stupid and yelling at each other something, but like that guy's older than us.
00:27:31
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Although it's funny, I always think that, but maybe he's younger than us. But like he's running around, Trump, Trump, Trump. and just pushing people and like yeah it was just weird um what was the actual rally like was it like people in blowhorns yelling chanting or was yeah it was just all positive i mean it was all like speeches there were some speeches but a lot of it was like mocking not the speeches but just signs mocking trump and talking about what a fool he is essentially yeah um but it was very peaceful and chill
00:28:05
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so is there Do you think it was effective at at all? Well, this is what everybody asks. Like, what does it matter? People were coming together. Well, I mean, they people had a point. Like, what what would what would what did you want to get out of it?
00:28:18
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I just suggest adding a voice, another voice to the idea that shit's getting out of control.
Consuming News and Avoiding Rabbit Holes
00:28:26
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Right. the the The challenge with this whole, and it's like it fights...
00:28:31
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my other instincts. But the challenge with this whole scenario now for me is I don't listen to any rabbit. I don't go down any rabbit hole internet shit. You know, I don't have any social media.
00:28:42
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I listen to smart, balanced people and they're talking as if we're on the downward escalator to real authoritarianism. Like actually he will not leave the white house.
00:28:56
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And that they're already like starting to talk about that. And like, I don't, what does that mean? i don't know. And that's what people are saying. So I don't, I don't know how else to counter that other than to like get in the streets and make, make a sign.
00:29:12
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But these aren't the people that I listened to. Nobody I listened to is like a Tucker fucking Carlson version of analysis or, Steve Bannon, who comes across as like having so a real deep understanding of how things work, but also fucking really says some crazy shit.
00:29:27
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I don't listen anybody like that. Yeah. I don't know, man.
Dictatorship vs. Democracy: Philosophical Musings
00:29:32
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I saw positive that the Coke is going to serve serve Coca-Cola with actual sugar in the United States and not high fructose corn syrup.
00:29:41
Speaker
There's a W. There's a win. Now, who made that happen? RFK?
00:29:49
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I guess. good Well done. He probably had something to do with it. There's a weird line between like using author authoritarian or absolute power for good or bad.
00:30:02
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always thought that a dict like a gri a good dictatorship would be the best society. like Like if it was all for good, not just for like self-serving purposes like Maduro or something like that. like they were just but But it was just like a single source who had great ideas and it just could immediately get things done because it didn't go through this like bureaucracy.
00:30:22
Speaker
Yeah, let's call it superintelligence. And when it comes, who knows if it'll... Then we're going to be living in and the best society ever. Maybe. Maybe it's utopian. Maybe it's dystopian. Maybe we all get killed by it.
00:30:33
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But i have that instinct
Vision for a Utopian Society
00:30:36
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myself. i actually went through a personal fantasy while I was working out yesterday of like, if I could just tell everybody, I don't care.
00:30:44
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We're going to rip out... 70% of the roads we have in America, and we're going to have a bunch of cargo bikes and a bunch of e-bikes for everybody to use, and we're gonna limit how much you can you can drive gas-powered vehicles. I grab your laptop back?
00:31:01
Speaker
Yeah, I'm listening. Just got interrupted. That one is the one. Yeah, that would that would be exactly ah off like a dictatorship of wealth, but that would just be essentially doing what...
00:31:17
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Just like executing. Did you do homework, dude? Yeah.
00:31:22
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Executing your your vision, right? Yeah, but my vision would everything good for people. You're all going to be on. You're going to have health care for free. We're going to get rid of ah oil and natural gas.
00:31:36
Speaker
We're going convert to renewables. We'll figure out all the battery storage. We'll figure it all out. But it's all going to be stuff that ultimately is... It's not saying. Yeah, in a way. yeah I have that instinct now.
00:31:48
Speaker
i have to ask then, having had that fantasy, when I think about the other other side, is that not just what they're doing? With their own initiative. Yeah, we're going to get rid of all immigrants or people that don't fit the American ideal and don't love America.
00:32:05
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We're going to enrich ourselves because people in power should be able to enrich themselves. What else are they doing? Oh, he's ending every war in the world because he's ah a genius on peace.
00:32:17
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He's like a real savant. so But maybe that's how they feel. and Perhaps it might be. They do. I mean, they he feels like he solved the Israeli conflict. Yeah.
00:32:28
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Bragging about that. And deregulation is like a huge thing on the on the right where...
Political Figures: Self-Interest vs. Genuine Belief
00:32:34
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Yeah. So maybe they feel like that's they're executing their vision. My version of it would be stuff that actually helps people don't have resources.
00:32:41
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I think that would be my vision, bro. Very Bernie-esque. I can't believe how old that fucking guy is. He still talks so great. Yeah.
00:32:52
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Bernie? He was in mid-80s maybe? Early 80s? If you had... Wayne Gretzky.
00:33:02
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And then you go back, flip flip the other side of the ice, Bobby Orr on defense. That's what Otani's doing. but Widely considered the best and NHL defenseman of all time, Bobby Orr.
00:33:14
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Or Ray Borg. Interestingly, both were Bruins. ah Yeah. I mean, they they they I guess I would disagree with you that mate Like that this guy, this president and and the all the people with him.
00:33:29
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Like i don't I don't agree that the he thinks he's doing something bad and just doesn't care because he's selfish. I think he thinks he's doing what what is best for the country. Just different than what you think or what other people think.
00:33:43
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I don't disagree with that. But yeah don't you think that he's vastly, like it's mostly self-serving? Well, let me ask. Do you really think that he believes and that the Republican Party believe that they're helping out the common man?
00:33:55
Speaker
And if they do believe that, show me where that philosophy is being implemented or show me where the policies that they have are helping. Well, I don't know if I can do the second part, but i would the first part I would say, yeah, they think they are.
00:34:08
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What do you think? They're like, we're gonna we're just going to fuck the common man. We're going to help the rich. Well, think they they they think they're giving white people specifically, rural white people, opportunity again.
00:34:22
Speaker
And a big part of that opportunity is first, now you can speak your words. Now you can say, no more trans. No more LGBTQ, no more immigrants. Okay, so that's that's one source of it. And all your examples, they definitely think that they're helping the common man with that.
00:34:42
Speaker
Yeah, that's a source of of huge empowerment for people. I think I've seen folks, at least in my family, change the way they talk. And they they feel free to be racist. feel free They feel free to, and they wouldn't call themselves racist, but they definitely feel free to talk.
00:34:58
Speaker
about things that they should probably be more nuanced about. yeah So that's a ah source of empowerment. You see it in all of these news articles with like young Republicans, like talking Nazi shit. And so so then then there's the big, beautiful bill that the tax, ah renewing the tax. That thing went away too. I forgot about that as well.
00:35:20
Speaker
Yeah. Taxes aren't going to go up like they would have. And so they could argue that that is good for poor people, but it's also like a lopsided to the the top in terms of the benefit is much greater for people with more money.
00:35:34
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So it's not exactly let's cheer them. No, no. I'm not saying whether i agree with them and I'm just saying I think that like people just think that he's got like some hidden initiative to to serve himself.
00:35:49
Speaker
I think he thinks that whatever you can agree or disagree with way they're doing it, but they think they are helping everybody out with ICE and the ta and the tariffs. and Yeah, they're getting the criminals criminals out and they're like rebuilding manufacturing the tariffs. You're right.
00:36:03
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They probably do. and I mean, of course
Challenges of Political Conversations in a Divided Society
00:36:06
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they do. I just don't know objectively and logically who who's who's in the bottom third of of this country in terms of wealth and income. who How are they going to win in this environment?
00:36:18
Speaker
I'm not seeing it, but whatever. I'm just a dumb, woke bitch. No, I think that this, I mean, it would be good to go to just, everyone went, well, I think this isn't the best way, what whatever. In this instance, this isn't the best way.
00:36:32
Speaker
But and those conversations aren't very fruitful in 2025 because it doesn't really work that. Maybe you have some friends that you can have these conversations with. Maybe even even us. Maybe us, Lance.
00:36:43
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But they're just like, well, I think you should do this or that or I like this. like I like the fact that they're going after the farm the food you know the food industry and the agriculture. For me, that's fine.
00:36:56
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but it But I don't like the... i don't like the the I don't like the immigration policies of the, but that those conversations are pretty hard to have in 2025 because everyone's just like a fucking idiot or, or, or vice versa.
00:37:11
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Like, you know, it's hard for people to acknowledge anything good on the other side, which really is what happens in like any, any relationship that's under, under stress, you know?
00:37:22
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Yeah. And, but he doesn't help. He doesn't help with the way he talks. Yeah. The other thing I don't like is like the, I actually turned on a YouTube the other night and I was just like, I'm going to sit, you type like Trump today to see the things he says.
00:37:38
Speaker
And I'll be like moments like, i don't know what what all the problem is, right? Fine. Whatever he said there, he was talking about, uh, Oh, wait he did. so What I was watching, he was in the oval office with a bunch of people and there were trying to, to get prices down for, uh, in vitro fertilization or something like that. Did you hear about that?
00:37:56
Speaker
Yep. Yeah. But in that, that was great. Whether if you like it, if you don't, then you'd hate it. But if you did, you're like, okay, there was a woman there talking, there was a couple other people. But in that, he was like, we did great on COVID, by the way. He kept he kept doing these like so these bragging things about shit that wasn't related to it.
00:38:13
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We did great. And I was like, if you just not do that, Yeah, I guess if I had to, you know, all complications aside or different perspectives across the aisle aside, if you could just sign up to govern the entire country.
00:38:30
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That'd be good. Top to bottom. While you're president, just kind of say, yeah, we're looking out for everybody. if you could just say that, that might help. But every week I get perplexed by the spiral down and trying to figure out what there is to do about it.
00:38:45
Speaker
I just still am curious, and I hope we're doing this podcast through end times because I want to see the point where you're like, fuck Lance, shit's fucked up, bro. Because I'm in panic mode like 10 years
Fears of Societal Collapse and Historical Parallels
00:39:00
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ahead.
00:39:00
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But i want to see um want to see what moment it is. It's like nuclear missiles flying or when when you're like, oh, fuck. Well, like right now, he's so I just saw something today that could lead to nuclear war that the he's, he's i don't know, boycotting putting an embargo or something on on on Russian oil. Yeah.
00:39:23
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So... Again, that, I'm like, all right, you know, whatever, the Russians. like But that could lead to that could lead to a heightened state of world world issues, right? Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I don't know. but like That would scare me. if there' I just want to see you afraid.
00:39:41
Speaker
That's all. I want the podcast to feel you in fear and me because I had thought about it for years ahead of time in a rational state of preparation and planning and execution and you're just like, oh, shit.
00:39:55
Speaker
I just want to win. I think this is what the issue of both sides is. so the only way It's like you the only way you fulfill all your what um whatever you feel as if as if you're as if you're right, which would be horrible.
00:40:12
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what like If the right was actually right about about the the foreigners coming in, it was just there's just people from all over the world pouring in and just killing and raping everyone everywhere, as as they describe.
00:40:24
Speaker
That's how they'd be right about immigration. That would be terrible. just every everywhere you go it's like fuck i got raped again by a hondoran fuck i got i got yeah i got i got extorted at the atm machine by ah sal but so a venezolano a venezuelan or in your case uh it's just like martial rule from the government going around killing people killing people it's happening bro it's happening right I mean, I don't know if that's going happen, but yeah. what's your worst
00:40:58
Speaker
What's your worst possible, app like things keep going, what's your worst fear? what do you think like the world, the US looks like in two years? Is it two years quick enough? Well, I got scared listening to some historian talk about the American Revolution because, you know, and when we're taught history in school, there's just not enough time to dig into the complications and nuances.
00:41:20
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But when I hear things like, these just just just on the family level, like Ben Franklin's son was a loyalist who was trying to protect people who so wanted to stand with England.
00:41:34
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And Ben Franklin was a patriot. And we we make it sound like being a patriot was like this glorious thing. But this historian was like, a lot of that was driven by a lot of it was driven by just wanting land expansion.
00:41:50
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It wasn't like, oh, just about these like pure motivations to not pay taxes without representation or whatever. It was just like, the British don't have resources to help us expand land. I mean, that's ah that was a big driver.
00:42:06
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So nuance, stuff like that, but but in a family level, to know that like your son was on the different side and that people were actually like shooting guns and against family members is something that would worry me.
00:42:21
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Right. As you start to identify what one side and the other side are about, and then people are willing to die for it. And you really see chaos amongst neighborhoods within families. And sounds like that's so far-fetched from where we're at because we can still walk out our door and and get a Starbucks and,
00:42:40
Speaker
a Big Mac, whatever. But it happened then. also happened in the Civil War. And I just started to get more curious about it. And that started to worry me.
00:42:51
Speaker
What would it mean to actually have to go gun down my brother? Because he's getting all of his info on Fox. like he's being told we Like he's being told that I'm effectively evil and a Satan worshiper. so Gun down my brother.
00:43:07
Speaker
It doesn't seem as far-fetched. especially when you look at the history and you look at those dynamics. but In a way, besides the shooting family members, do you feel like it's like, what are we what are we protecting anyways? Like you mentioned, like, you can go to a Starbucks and it's like, great.
00:43:25
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maybe Maybe the whole thing needs a needs to get shaken up a little bit. Well, you you can have that that sort of nihilistic view and then you see the pain that's caused. Like your parents would probably be dead in that.
00:43:38
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You just have to process that. Like, you know, if there was a ah war around their neighborhood, they're they're old. and Somebody would just take their resources. Like, you'd have to, like, process, like, stuff that we can't process because we've lived through an era of, at least regionally, like, of total peace.
00:43:53
Speaker
I guess the the closest thing we've seen is if you were in New York during 9-11, that probably seemed like something you never thought you would experience. I don't know. Right. it You know, uh...
00:44:06
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Well, I mean, we and you're watching...
00:44:11
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if it got to that that point where, I don't know, not not I don't know how to how it would happen in the U.S. with these other parts of the world where horrible genocide and stuff like that has happened and military coups.
00:44:24
Speaker
Yeah, that would that would scare me. They just come in and show whole villages or shit like that. i don't see it I don't see if Trump and his cronies as that's like their long-term goal. Yeah, but what would be the stepping stone to that? Staying in office or saying, hey, I got to stay in office because there's too much chaos in the streets and now is not a safe time for elections?
00:44:45
Speaker
Would that, you know, start the clock for you? i i don't I don't think so. You'd just be like, cool? don't know. I don't think if Trump was like, i there's a way I can stay in office legally. I don't think that Where the next step is genocide or something like that. Illegal. Or civil war. ah Do you think we're getting close to a civil war?
00:45:09
Speaker
I'm not one of those people at this point.
Democracy's Preservation Amidst Instability
00:45:12
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But i I am starting to see the seeds of longstanding divide and conflict. If it were to take shape in a way where people were willing to die for it, ah yes. Yes.
00:45:26
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And I would say that a democratically elected president saying, I am now going to stay in office, choose to stay in office. There are gonna be no elections. That would be a very nice stepping stone to the path of a civil war.
00:45:45
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But I think what probably happened is, there would There would be some sort of loophole he finds where he and then he would get voted in. and now and and that would He'd probably win right now.
00:45:57
Speaker
And then he'd get voted in and then it would just be like, well, he got voted in. And then there'd be the people, 48% of the people in outrage, but it would be a vote. if he If he's just like, I'm staying in office, and I'm staying in office, that would probably be like some shit would go down.
00:46:13
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He's like, I'm not leaving. All I'm saying is that that's that happens and I think you you would have to agree, right? We're pointing towards one direction that's ah more dystopian than on the upswing.
00:46:26
Speaker
I'd say to make make a couple bucks over the next two or three years and stay down here. Right. And I'll be joining you. ah i hate talking about this, especially as a retired person, because then people will think that I'm like fucking going down rabbit holes and shit.
00:46:40
Speaker
um I'm not. I just think it's mainstream people that I listen. i like I don't do anything weird. So I'm either a worrywart or you're just a ah heavy contrast. Well, I just live there.
00:46:53
Speaker
I haven't for a long time. so Yeah, you're lucky. I'm going up there. and i When I'm up there, i haven't like I told you the last show, I haven't got i haven't got into something where I'm like, oh, fuck.
00:47:05
Speaker
This feels sketchy. Yeah, because there's nothing in disarray like that. There's really very few things that are in disarray. Yeah, it's just gonna make the leap. I'm just worried. Yeah, there's there's certain more actions and we've been on a ah fast pace towards authoritarianism based on all scholars who studied it in other countries. We are on a real fast pace.
00:47:24
Speaker
And if things start to keep or keep going down in that direction, then what? Because they're normalizing it, dude. That's the one thing. They're all normalizing it now on the right. of Like, yeah, you know, we need we need someone in power that can get things done.
00:47:37
Speaker
And, you know, I would love to have him stay. And they're normalizing. They would never have said that 20 years ago. So it we'll see what happens. I'll be ready. I'll be ready. don't know. It's good to get out around the world and see people with real problems.
00:47:51
Speaker
And then you just get in your head, like, what is everyone crying about in the u s It's like, that's how I feel right now. It's just like, even here in Costa Rica is a pretty good state, but even here, some of the poverty you see, you're like, and again, they're probably happier than most most people up there, but you're like, okay, what is everybody crying about?
00:48:07
Speaker
Like, let's fucking calm down. I just feel like, that's how I still feel about the U.S., regardless of Trump and everything else. Even when you go out there. yeah but people looked at this as a ah country that would sort of keep people i'm not going to say in line but it was an image of stability across the world and it's ceasing to be that and i think even for people in other countries that's a scary thing because it opens the door for crazier behavior homosexuality yeah a lot more more gay stuff um
00:48:40
Speaker
opens the door that's what the rights are saying all this stuff opens the door for homosexuality yeah exactly i'm not there yet bro oh i know you're not of course i mean i didn't come in here uh thinking you hated america yet i think you'd love it you just hate fat fat people you hate the fats i just it's like america needs to get over it so that's the worst thing that trump has done is for it whether he meant to or not is just make people focus on him and uh and what they don't like about him or what they do like about him way too much than worrying about their own shit you think they're slacking on their goals that's what i don't like dude i'm a goal oriented guy i have a what's the flow board or that like the no i just uh i don't maybe but i don't even i don't know like i said when i get up there i still i don't even feel the
00:49:35
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the tension of like people are just constantly worried about, like i
Fatigue Over Political Discussions and Personal Goals
00:49:38
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I'm not walking around. Everyone's like, fuck Trump or, or no, or no. approach yeah no I hear comments and shit, but there have just been unprecedented actions that start to worry people who actually think, think, let me ask you this question to close it out and be, be serious, really process this.
Taylor Swift vs. Donald Trump for President: A Humorous Choice
00:49:57
Speaker
It's going to sound weird, but would you rather, would you rather have Taylor Swift be president of the United States or Donald Trump?
00:50:12
Speaker
I mean, I don't know. I can't say Taylor Swift.
00:50:18
Speaker
So you would rather have Donald Trump be president than Taylor Swift? I'm say yes.
00:50:30
Speaker
Do you want a piece of shit in your life? Do you want a piece of shit in your life?
00:50:39
Speaker
come to the right place you've come to the right place cause I am a piece of shit and you know it I am a piece of shit and know