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Episode 51: Happy New Year Everyone, AEW Is Officially A Thing!
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It's the first hang of 2019, Garrett & Derrick are ready to chat about the big All Elite Wrestling news and watch their first match of the year, Walter Vs Will Osprey at Over The Top wrestling! Also, they talk New Years resolutions, NXT, Garrett's weird movie habits and more!
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Podcast Introduction and New Year's Eve Recap
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined, a pro wrestling hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender, and with me, as always, a man who survived 2018, Derek Halpin.
00:00:12
Speaker
Didn't seem like that was actually going to be something you could say, you know, for a while. It's a long year. A lot of stuff happened this year. Some good stuff, some bad stuff, but it's a new year. We're turning over a new leaf. It's an exciting period for the podcast too, because not only is this the first episode of predetermined a progressing hangout in 2019, but it's also going to be this podcast birthday here in a couple of weeks.
00:00:36
Speaker
What is it, the 28th or something? January 28th is when we officially got our audio up online.
00:00:45
Speaker
Well, do I get to eat like predetermined birthday cake on that day or does that go towards the diet? You don't get to, but I do. Okay, I hope some of the listeners go out and get themselves a treat as well. Get a cupcake. Get lots of cookies and post pictures of you eating the cookies online and tag Garrett in them so he can see you enjoying cookies that he can't have. And if you blow out a candle and make a wish on behalf of the podcast, I'm not going to be mad about that as well.
00:01:11
Speaker
But yeah, send us pictures, send us videos, whatever, you know the deal, hit our goddamn music.
00:01:49
Speaker
So I guess I should officially, on the podcast, say Happy New Year to you? Yeah, we're actually recording this on New Year's Day. Yeah. January 1st, brother. Did you party hard last night? I didn't party. I mean, if by party you mean sleep.
00:02:06
Speaker
I went to bed at 8 p.m. You work early. I do. I get up for work at 3.15, man. And I set my alarm for 11.50 so I could say Happy New Year to my girlfriend. And then as soon as we had our phone conversation, I went right back to bed. Took me like 10 to 15 minutes. I don't know if anybody lives in an urban area who's listening to this podcast, but I can tell you that
00:02:33
Speaker
in cities on major events like Fourth of July and New Year's Eve, when there's an opportunity for people to use fireworks, they use them and they use them all over the place. And I can tell you from midnight to probably three in the morning, people were just sound like bombs going off. So it took me another 10, 20 minutes to go back to sleep because it sounded scary out there. I don't know that mine was much better.
00:03:01
Speaker
than that. I did go. Did you choose to celebrate? Like, did you do the. You say that like it's a religious holiday. It's like, do you choose to. Do you choose to acknowledge that it's a different year? I did go out. My wife enjoys, you know, going out to bars and to events such as New Year's. That's not my cup of tea. Events such as New Year's.
00:03:27
Speaker
No, I you know luckily she had a DD last night, which was me cuz you know fucking you came in Dallas page. Yeah DDP get designated driver yoga, man
00:03:42
Speaker
So we went to a tiki bar and so a lot of times weed helps me with my social anxieties and I'll tell
New Year's Eve Anecdotes
00:03:51
Speaker
you it does not help on New Year's Eve. There is a whole group of society that comes out on New Year's Eve to go to bars that I don't run into in my regular life.
00:04:01
Speaker
Right. So there's like entire groups of people you forgot about. Yeah. Like when we walked in, you know, we're waiting in a line to get into this place and I looked over and I thought to myself, I need to remember tomorrow that the moment I died inside tonight was when I watched the man with the fedora in the photo booth by himself doing a lot of pointing at that camera solo, you know, switching from hand to hand, doing poses with the hat. I thought me and this guy, we just don't have a lot in common. It's not going to happen.
00:04:30
Speaker
that's an interesting thing to bring up because on the one hand it's gross to see like I'm sure that was really like like you were judging that guy hard but at the same time maybe he didn't give a fuck and maybe he's living his best life and he doesn't care that you're sitting at the table
00:04:47
Speaker
mildly high judging him. Like, he doesn't care. It's 2019. And yeah, he was dressed well at least. I mean, a fedora is arguable on whether or not it's, you know, dressing well. But I can say it was better than me wearing a velvet jacket over a Joey Janela shirt because you don't have to stay on brand. So he doesn't care that some guy who has a pro wrestling podcast was thinking ill of him.
00:05:13
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, but this was, okay, so this tiki bar, this was its first year in business. It gets to be a couple minutes before midnight, so we make our way over towards the bar where they had, you know, go-go dancers and things like that, and they had two guys on that's like, all right, it's- Go-go dancers? Yeah, they kind of had like a 70s themed party to it last night. That's baller as fuck. Yeah. And you didn't break the diet, like, to get a drink and celebrate? Derek, I hope you know how much I love a piรฑa colada from a tiki bar.
00:05:42
Speaker
I am not a big- So this was torture for you. I'm not a big drinker. And the only kind of bars I like, Derek, are Tiki bars. Because, you know, you give me a drink with an umbrella in it, I am there all day. You're willing to pop a lot of money down for the Piรฑa Colada. But I did not have a Piรฑa Colada. I sat there and drank nothing the entire night.
00:06:04
Speaker
but it's you know it's a couple minutes till midnight these two guys are on the bar we go over and we're like alright I guess they're gonna do the countdown and they're talking we're looking at the clock and it's really rapidly approaching midnight and they have not gotten anywhere near counting down so people towards the back of the bar on a different like on the patio start doing the countdown and we all cheer happy new year's by the time these guys are done talking it's 1203
00:06:30
Speaker
And he's like, all right, are you guys ready for the countdown? I'm like, that's not how this works, motherfucker. You don't get to just pick what time is New Year's. I mean, these two guys stood on the bar like, we opened this bar this year and we didn't know how well it was going to do when it's done really well. And I'm like, I came here for New Year's not to hear you suck your own dick about how well your bar's doing, man. I paid $10 to get in here.
00:06:53
Speaker
to not drink. And then at 12.03 they counted down from 10. But everybody on- That's so dumb. Everybody on the patio though for that whole three minutes from midnight to 12.03 we're all counting down from 10 over and over again until those guys finally started doing it. I mean that seems like a hustle because you know that it's already happened. So you're really just people who are counting
00:07:24
Speaker
And that's how you started 2019, you just counted. Dude, it was preparation for the Royal Rumble. I can't complain about how many times. I gotta be able to count down for when Kenny Omega makes that run in. I think we've had plenty of practice when it comes to count downs for the Rumble and the Chamber and greatest Royal Rumbles. What other scenarios do they use the counter for? Elimination Chamber? I already said that. Well, that's it.
00:07:54
Speaker
Wait, last man standing matches? Well, yeah. I don't think they use the actual counter for that though. They should. It would actually keep the ref in check for once. Yeah, if you're in Japan, it's a 20 count, so that doesn't even count. I would like to know the origin behind why they do a 20 count in Japan. Well, they also did a match we're going to talk about later in the episode. They had a 20 count as well in Ireland. All right.
00:08:21
Speaker
I don't know, Derek. I don't have all these answers. I just watch the wrestling and then give you my thoughts on it. Well, we can do a little, we can do a lot of that because we have a pro wrestling podcast.
Wrestling Resolutions and Events
00:08:32
Speaker
I do want to say while we're on the subject of New Year's, it's one of my least favorite holidays or celebrations of the year because it's, I don't know if I'm just a curmudgeony old fuck now, but
00:08:43
Speaker
It's so mundane and I think like there's I have a similar feeling towards New Year's that I do towards WrestleMania which is that it gets built up and then ultimately the day after it happens you realize that you're nothing changed and you're disappointed. So you're telling me for New Year's it probably started around Y2K. For WrestleMania it's impossible to trace where you started being sad. I can actually trace to you exactly where it started for me.
00:09:14
Speaker
And I think that it was the WrestleMania I went to. Was that 22? 22, 22, yeah. I mean, I've never, we should actually at some point discuss the only WrestleMania I've been to just as its own thing. But the show ended with Cena versus Triple H for the WWE Championship. And the arena was not having any of John Cena, even though he was the babyface.
00:09:40
Speaker
and they were sucking Triple H's dick even though he was the heel and it just was a lot of fuck you seen a chance and this was the main event of this this epic thing that I had been wanting to go to for years and the show just kind of ended on such a weird Sour Patch moment and I don't know I
00:10:01
Speaker
I'm trying, I guess Rollins cashing in at the end of Mania 31 was the last time like I kind of left a Mania feeling like, ah, that was everything it needed to be. Even though that was the same WrestleMania where Sting lost to Triple H. God damn it, we're talking wrestling.
00:10:18
Speaker
But yeah, I'm not a big New Year's guy. Because the next morning after you do all the partying and everything, it's back to the same shit. Well, I have to ask you this, Derek. Okay. What is your wrestling New Year's resolution?
00:10:37
Speaker
Like what's my resolution in any fashion tied to pro wrestling? Yes. Yeah. I don't I don't care about what resolutions you have set for yourself personally as long as whatever you're about to tell me involves the squared circle. My only personal resolutions I told to a coworker today I said I'm going to try to be nicer to the people I like and that I care about and meaner to the people that I don't like and don't care about.
00:11:05
Speaker
As far as pro wrestling goes, I just, I think 2018 was pivotal for me in the sense that because of this podcast, because of where I live, I think I went to more pro wrestling in 2018 than I have at any other time in my life. Now you on the other hand, you went fucking nuts and you traveled all over the world in one calendar. Like that's not normal. What you did was extraordinary in 2018.
00:11:30
Speaker
Good luck topping that in the future. I would love to see you travel to San Francisco, Japan, back to California, back to New Orleans, to New York a couple times. You've been everywhere in the last year. But for me, just even between all in, Money in the Bank, the AAW shows I went to, the WWE shows I went to. Yeah, it was, it was, I guess my resolution is to try to go to more shows in 2019, but I don't know if I can do that.
00:12:02
Speaker
I went to a lot of wrestling this past year. What about you? What do you got as a wrestling resolution? Well, so I found myself watching the most recent episode of NXT, which if you're listening to this now is actually last week's episode, because this comes out on Thursdays. Otis and Jizz were in the main event against undisputed era. And I realized what Otis and Jizz are missing.
00:12:31
Speaker
Which is me, baby. I'm going to the main roster with him and I'm going to be their mouthpiece. I love the subtle tenacious D reference you dropped right there. They need me. You want to be you want to be the Paul Heyman. You want to be the the the Jim Cornette for heavy machinery.
00:12:51
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, because I feel like a big problem right now is, you know, we're not taking heavy machinery seriously enough. And they're getting the call up anyway. They're gonna be there. And you know what? They need somebody to tell their story.
00:13:07
Speaker
What is their story? Well, why are you the person to tell their story? Because I'm the only one that believes in them, Derek. You believe in them? If you recall on the last episode, the Hangman Page Award, or whatever the fuck we called it, went to Jizz. The next big thing award? The next big thing is Jizz.
00:13:29
Speaker
which is actually Otis eventually Jizz is gonna have to break off of heavy machinery and he's gonna have a shirt that says the jizz man cometh and that's gonna sell a lot
00:13:43
Speaker
That guy's neck, man. That guy's neck is a story. Every time he does the worm, I am upset, delighted, aroused, just so many feelings. And that's what pro wrestling is supposed to do, is fill you with just an overwhelming sense of joy.
00:14:06
Speaker
A plethora of feelings all at once. Yeah, he's scary. You don't want him in your house, but you kind of want a picture with him. You know, it's a whole, a whole thing. But, you know, I'm going to get on the mic and I'll be like, what do you need to know about Jizz? His pickup. All the neck beards are like, what?
00:14:25
Speaker
I know everything there is to know. No, you don't. When you go into his pickup truck, just a fucking waterfall of chewing tobacco tins fall out. And if you try and throw those away, he's going to kick you straight in the dick because he's saving the, you know, there's little decals that if you collect enough, he can get a beach towel or some shit. And he's really trying to get that. He's never going to submit those, but he tells you he's going to.
00:14:50
Speaker
Also, he's like, do you want to know about Jizz? I don't know a whole lot about him myself, but I do know we've been sharing a hotel room for the past six nights. And last night around 4 a.m., I caught him sneaking through my backpack. And if he's willing to do that to his manager, just think what he's willing to do to you. That's a hell of a promo.
00:15:11
Speaker
Garrett, do you think a guy who looks the way Jizz slash Otis does, do you think he looks in the mirror and says, I look like
Wrestling Botches and Comedy
00:15:19
Speaker
I need to be a pro wrestler? Because what else could I be? Well, what are they supposed to be? Are they construction workers? I don't really understand. I know that I'm supposed to be conveying this message.
00:15:32
Speaker
Here's the funny thing, we give war raiders a lot of shit for throwing up them heavy metal horns, but there's a lot of times where in my mind I get the same vibe from the term war raiders as I do heavy machinery. Yeah, it's just another tag team name, it's like, ugh, tough. Yeah, just two big tough guys and they look very similar, but
00:15:58
Speaker
I'm gonna go ahead and tell you, in the fight between construction workers that do the worm, and two Vikings, who's gonna win? Who's winning? The team that has Garrett as manager? Yeah, because I'm over there to do some heel shit, and I'm gonna get Jizz to the finish line. You said yeah so incredulously, like you're insulted that it was even up for debate. Jizz always comes out on top.
00:16:28
Speaker
God damn right it does. But yeah, when I saw they were in the main event of an NXT episode, I thought this is just fucking crazy. You mentioned something to me that there was a serious botch from this match you wanted to talk about.
00:16:42
Speaker
What the fuck happened? Derek. I don't feel like we talk about botches nearly enough for a comedic pro wrestling podcast. Derek. Oh my God. So Kyle O'Reilly, Roddy Strong, Otis, Jizz. They're going to war. Yeah. Otis, AKA Tucker, who has a vest that says Tucky.
00:17:03
Speaker
on it like where his name tag would be, Tucky, it does say that. Roderick Strong is on the apron with Tucker Knight and he goes to pick him up and he's gonna drop him flat on his back on the apron, totally misses the apron and sends him straight flat back to the floor.
00:17:24
Speaker
Are you positive this was a botch? Derek, it looked like he was supposed to hit that apron. I don't think he picked that guy up with full intentions of just dropping him straight to the floor. Was the thud comparable to the Brody King thing? Dude, he dropped heavy machinery. It's going to make a sound.
00:17:49
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, I don't I don't know. I mean, good luck to those boys on the main roster. Good luck to those boys. We're sending them off to their first day of grade school.
00:18:01
Speaker
See how they do. Oh, I hope they're ready to just get the shit beat out of them by Cesaro or something Which one of you is Otis? Which one of you is Jizz? Come on, and like one of them is just gonna be like Really? Look at me. I'm Jizz. I don't know. Which kind of look like an Otis. Well, you really are Jizz's shirt says dozer now Jizz dozer
00:18:27
Speaker
Yeah, those guys are nightmares. I was going to ask if so. I got to bring this up while we're while we're talking about just noises that have come up multiple times on this podcast over the past year. You talked about the epic thud that Brody King made. We did it. We did a
00:18:50
Speaker
We did Shane McMahon wrong this past episode. Derek, the second you sent me this text, I realized we fucked up. We fucked up hard. I don't know if I don't know if we fucked up the award, but we fucked up not mentioning this in the nominations. So it was a couple of days after we recorded the you know, the Sophie's. So we came up with a name after the fact from one of our listeners.
00:19:16
Speaker
about what we should call our yearly awards. The golden sofas are called the Sophie's. We figured it out. We handed out the LOL award for the funniest moment of 2018 in pro wrestling. Mentioned a bunch of different things. We mentioned the Don Callis, Chris Jericho incident. We mentioned the Joey Ryan's penis druids incident, which we actually ended up winning the award. We left off something. How did we leave off the
00:19:44
Speaker
Awesome noises that Shane McMahon made when he got power bombed onto the metal heavy machinery
00:19:51
Speaker
behind Gorilla Position. And Derek, for the listeners at home, give them an example of what that sound was like. Going back before this past WrestleMania, was that really before Mania? That was the build to WrestleMania. That was the build to the Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn versus Daniel Bryan Shane McMahon match, and it went a little something like this.
00:20:26
Speaker
I about passed out again. I'm out of practice. So was Shane. He wasn't ready for that. Oh man, we got so much mileage out of that. That was the running joke for almost 10 episodes, I think. For all we know, he did that on purpose to be funny.
00:20:44
Speaker
He may have legitimately been hurt too. Those may have been actual guttural noises of pain. He wasn't selling. Did you ever end up watching the triple threat from TLC when Becky landed just ass first onto Charlotte from the top of that ladder and you just hear, they bleep it but Charlotte just goes, oh fuck!
00:21:12
Speaker
What can you do, man? It's not selling if it really hurts. Just go with it. I just feel bad because you and I talk. That was a thing that we did almost every episode during the early stages of this podcast. And to just leave it off as a nomination at the very least, like that was shame on us. Yeah, we did. We did Shane dirty this this week and we owe him an apology.
00:21:35
Speaker
I mean you could have made an argument that should have won considering how often we use that as a running gag but I digress I just wanted to make sure we worked that in. But.
00:21:46
Speaker
We actually have a match we need to talk about, something that you recommended to me that I watch, you watch, I watch. Now we're gonna talk about it on, what are we talking about today? Well, what is this? So originally we were gonna have Queen of the Ring on today to talk about progress, but our schedules just didn't work out, so we kinda had to throw something together last minute. And I'll be honest with you, Derek, for about the last week, week and a half, two weeks, I didn't really watch any wrestling.
00:22:15
Speaker
Well, it's been, it's been a busy, it's the holidays, man. Like, we don't have to explain too much, do we? No, I think everybody gets it. And I will say it was a nice little break. I mean, we spent the better part of a year just covering violence all the time. So to, you know, not watch violence for a minute was, I don't want to say nice, because I did miss it. But now that I have a back, feels great. Give me that violence. Give me that violence all day. But I wanted to, you know,
00:22:42
Speaker
You don't want to have a shitty song be the first song you hear in 2019. Right? I didn't want to have a shitty wrestling match be the first thing we saw. Or, you know, the first thing we see this year. So I found a match. So you went to something that you knew would be good? Yeah, I had heard a lot of, you know, kind of match of the year rumblings about this one, but it's one that kind of slid by me, never got around to it, and I'm very, very happy we did.
Match Review: Walter vs. Will Ospreay
00:23:08
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, this one was a fun one. Tell them what we allowed our eyes to view first in 2019. OTT, Over the Top Wrestling, a promotion in, I believe the show was in Dublin. I had never seen anything by this promotion, but goddamn, it was a hot, hot crowd in that room. And we watched Walter take on Will Ospreay for the OTT title. And I believe this was back in October.
00:23:39
Speaker
Yeah, we were lucky enough. This one was available on YouTube. So if you're listening to the show, you want to watch this match, go back, watch it. It's a damn good match. Garrett, I got several spots I want to talk about from this because holy shit. I mean, how many times can you and I rave about Walter's chops? We don't need to go on about that. That definitely happens in here where he chops the soul out of another human being.
00:24:03
Speaker
I mean, do I talk about Osprey trying to chop him a couple times and then just receiving a stiff kick in the face? Like just not a super kick, although it might as well be considered a super kick. He just takes a step back and just lifts his leg up and kicks another man in the face.
00:24:22
Speaker
Yeah, Walter is an imposing figure. Do we do we talk? Do we talk about the epic drop or the drop kick that you mentioned? Dude, he I that shotgun drop kick he does. I don't know if anyone else does it as hard as him. I mean, yeah, Osprey turned inside out. He definitely landed on his neck and did he fly out of the ring from that one?
00:24:43
Speaker
I think he did. I think he hit the mat, did like a backward somersault, and then tumbled out between the bottom two ropes. He sold that shotgun drop kick like the Rock used to sell the Stone Cold Stunner. Absolutely. Was it selling?
00:24:58
Speaker
That's a big motherfucker. Well, I will say Osprey, I mean, it's not gonna take much to make Walter look powerful, but goddamn, Osprey knows how to sell. And he's sold like a motherfucker for Walter, who spent the first half of the match just manhandling him.
00:25:19
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's fair to say you and I are big marks for Walter, but I don't think that anyone would be questioning why we are.
00:25:30
Speaker
God damn, he's so fun to watch. Like every match that he's in with somebody is a spectacle. And I don't feel like it's gonna get enough credit and I hope you took a note of this. My favorite spot in this match may very well have been the top rope powerbomb that looked like he threw him up towards the ceiling before he hit the mat.
00:25:50
Speaker
god I don't know if they just caught a good angle on that but he looked like he was so okay this is Walter obviously on the top rope Osprey is trying to you know flip him off the top rope but Walter catches him lifts him up and just kind of does this dive in top rope powerbomb and sends him I mean he almost does a coast-to-coast catty corner yeah
00:26:12
Speaker
Like I mean, I've seen some people come down from some pretty powerful power bonds before. Like you've seen some guys with some height drop some guys, but fucking Walter from the top rope to Osprey middle of the ring. Good Lord.
00:26:29
Speaker
another good lord well just speaking of shotgun drop kicks walters wasn't the nastiest one in there there's a moment in this match where osprey is on the top rope and does a shotgun drop kick or i guess just yeah he has that drop kick off the top rope to the back of walters neck yeah that and there's no way he knew that was coming i mean even if he did how do you brace yourself to just be kicked in the back of the fucking head call it in the ring
00:26:59
Speaker
That's what you're doing. Are you going to be OK if I just start calling things while we're hanging out? You basically do that when we're doing the podcast. That's true. Every week you introduce me as something different. I never know what it's going to be. Call it in the ring. Walter and Osprey for real. It should be like the first thing that comes up on YouTube if you search for Walter and Osprey. This is this has got uploaded like a month ago.
00:27:25
Speaker
Yeah, it was one of the first couple things for me when I looked it up. God, Walter removes the stairs, gives Osprey this just brutal powerbomb onto the stage. Yeah, I... And the crowd was very, very behind Osprey. Oh, yeah.
00:27:46
Speaker
Oh yeah, and I think you and I through some texts that started talking about why we love Walter so much, but I think we should share that with everyone listening. I would love to see this guy. First of all, I told you I would love to be the one who got to book Walter's WWE debut if it were to happen.
00:28:07
Speaker
You said that you overheard Jim Cornette raving about him. What did he say? Yeah, he was on Jericho's podcast this last week and he just, he had nothing bad to say about Walter. He was just, you know, kind of talking about everything, honestly, that you said. Like he just, I just think he's an, he's a good old school, old fashioned monster heel.
00:28:30
Speaker
and it works. It doesn't feel, I mean, maybe it's because it's on the, like the independent circuit. I think certain things do work in smaller houses and with different lighting and all those things play a factor. So whether or not something would work like on a WWE roster, I don't know. I just know I love seeing Walter cause he's not like a guy who's super in shape. He literally looks like he could play a bully in a movie.
00:28:56
Speaker
like he does he's somebody that Jim Carrey or Jeff Daniels might throw a salt shaker at in a restaurant and dumb and right. Absolutely like there's nothing about him that screams this guy other than being tall like he's not an athlete and yet here he is.
00:29:11
Speaker
And I said to you, I think that the thing that I would love about seeing him in WWE, if they could do it differently in the way that he does it on the indie circuit. There's not a ton of showboating and not I'm not saying that monster heels need to do that anyway, but it's scary. It's almost terrifying and Michael Myers like the way.
00:29:31
Speaker
he'll stomp on you or he'll put a foot on your chest and hold you down and crush you and even as he's letting you up he's grabbing the next limb that he's going to try to like injure and he's always setting up for the next move it's like he's methodically breaking you down and destroying your body
00:29:49
Speaker
in a way that I just feel like I don't, like Strowman doesn't do that. He always takes a moment to lift his hands and roar. He just seems like a guy who is a wrestler, like a legit shoot wrestler that just happens to be like seven feet tall. How tall is he? Do you know? I can look that up real quick. You've mentioned kind of him being a wrestler. You don't really see Big Show putting somebody in a leg lock or, you know, just doing mat wrestling.
00:30:20
Speaker
I think that's what's scary about him as a character. I mean the whole ring general thing, I think his whole presentation on the indie scene is the music fits, his ring gear being kind of basic, black trunks, the jacket he comes out in.
00:30:36
Speaker
everything about it's intimidating as hell and the fact that this giant man, he's not just like, he can shop the shit out of you obviously, we talk about that all the time, but the fact that he'll also grab a hold and try to break you in half with like a Boston, half Boston crab or whatever.
00:30:54
Speaker
Good Lord, I mean, he's just terrifying. What's his height? Okay, so Walter, which you and I are both older than him. Well, I figured we're getting to be old. That's upsetting. Looking through some of his ring names, Big Daddy Walter, Big Van Walter, Gotcha Ping, Man Mountain Walter. Big Daddy Walter was,
00:31:20
Speaker
So in a tag team with Kevin Nash according to I can't not see it now according to Wikipedia he's 310 pounds and he's only 6'4
00:31:57
Speaker
I'm pissed.
00:31:58
Speaker
Yeah. Is that a problem? So the indies are just full are the indies just full of like what are they like tiny? What's the technically correct term? Normal sized people? No. I was making a joke. I don't know if like like whatever. I just I'm disappointed to find out he's only like I don't know. I feel like somebody just told me Santa Claus isn't real. Well, what? What?
00:32:30
Speaker
No, but when I was watching this match, I noticed, I thought like, oh man, Osprey must be really tall because he's not that much shorter than Walter. So that also just means that Osprey is pretty close to, you know, what an average size wrestler is or, you know, WWE wrestler. Right. I don't know. That kind of bummed me out when I saw his size, but it does make sense that on the Indies, you know, a big guy, a six four guy. It's what is it? You call it the badass Billy Gunn effect.
00:32:59
Speaker
That's what I was getting ready to say is he's the same size as Billy Gunn. I bet if I look it up, Billy Gunn's fucking taller than him. It ruins everything. That kind of kills my mood. You know what actually make me really happy though, Garrett? What's that? If our listeners hopped on iTunes, gave us five stars, left a really nice review.
00:33:22
Speaker
That would make me really happy. That'd be a great way to start 2019. Garrett, what happens if they leave us a review and a five-star rating? We will talk about literally anything you want, as long as it can be loosely linked to pro wrestling. If you want us to watch, hey, I went and tried to watch Holmes and Watson. I made it seven minutes in, Derek.
00:33:45
Speaker
Why did you even bother? Because Braun Strowman's in it. Right but like why did like what can you get out of seven minutes that's like definitely no or definitely yes. You can just tell you mean like what can what did I get out of those seven minutes of that movie that I'm like no I can leave now. I sat through the entire new Ghostbusters movie.
00:34:05
Speaker
That movie was not that bad. Oh my God. No, I, okay. No. No, I wanna bring this. No. We're not talking about Ghostbusters. Good. I got accused of thinking that it's like a brag that I walk out of movies. And you know what? Maybe it is a brag because I had a point in my life when I can tell what bullshit I don't wanna watch and when I have better time, when there's something I could be doing better with my time.
00:34:33
Speaker
It's also you gloating about your card that you have. Your ability to go see a movie every day and just be like, oh, it's a very let them eat cake type moment where you're able to just be like, I'll go give this thing a try. It gets seven minutes. And then if I am not entertained, I'm out. You had to go drive somewhere and park.
00:34:55
Speaker
I didn't have to pay for parking or anything, I just walked into a theater, I showed up late, missed the previews, sat down, movie wasn't funny, got up and left. Right, but I'm just saying that the drive to get to the theater was probably twice as long as you giving the movie an opportunity. It was exactly twice as long.
00:35:16
Speaker
And poor Braun Strowman, he never got to perform for you. See, AMC Movie Pass gives me this incredible ability to play a game I like to call movie rodeo, which is how long can I sit in this seat before it kicks me out?
00:35:34
Speaker
You should just at least own that you're like yeah, this is gonna sound cool later when I say I fucking walked out after seven minutes You know what I just want people like I know too many people are like I sat through the whole thing It was terrible and why'd you fucking sit through it your dad sat through ready to rumble with you? Yeah, that's different. He brought a child. Yeah
00:35:55
Speaker
I brought no one. I left on my own. I didn't ruin anyone else's time. Between me and all of our childhood friends, how many people did you take to go see movies that ultimately ended up being shitty? Listeners?
00:36:13
Speaker
We haven't really talked about my movie love. I'm a huge movie fan. I go see pretty much anything. That doesn't mean that I'll stay the whole time, but you know. You get two minutes. Impress me. I found out that a lot of people walked out of Holmes and Watson 15 minutes in.
00:36:30
Speaker
Yeah, actually, if I'm being serious with you for a moment, I've heard that that's a thing that people aren't making it very far into that movie. There's a scene towards the beginning where he's trying on all these different hats, and one is a Fez that's red and says, make England great again. And it just wasn't funny. I sat through seven minutes of a full theater being dead silent, and I thought this isn't going to get better.
00:36:53
Speaker
You could've got a free nap in. Yeah, I thought about that. See, I do that sometimes. I'll take, because those recliner seats are comfortable. Yeah, they are. Listeners, I had a reputation in my friend group of dragging people to see things that they didn't want to see, or getting them in my car under the guys that were going to be doing something else, and then being like, surprise, we're at this movie, this is what's happening. Is it that you had a reputation for doing this, or did you just do this?
00:37:22
Speaker
Well, I mean, if I did it, doesn't that mean I had? Is there a difference? Because I was doing it. I think there is. I think you can have a reputation for something you don't necessarily do. Name a little bit of dog shit that I dragged you to in high school. The Ringer, Catwoman. I will never apologize for taking you to Catwoman. New York Minute with the Olsen twins. We'll never apologize for that either. We got a lot of fun out of that.
00:37:52
Speaker
I do remember, here's a quick tangent that has nothing to do with pro wrestling. I do remember expressing my interest in seeing the movie the day after tomorrow and everyone kind of being like, that looks stupid. Why would you want to go see that? And then I had to work or something and all of you guys went to go watch it without me. And you came back and you were like, it was actually pretty good. I didn't think it was that bad. I was like, fuck you guys.
00:38:18
Speaker
after god damn it you're a heel i think we're both heels this is a heel podcast hey but everybody likes undisputed era they do that's true
00:38:30
Speaker
Derek, let's get back on the topic of pro wrestling. You said you had something you wanted to talk about today. I do have something I want to talk about, but before we get to that, there is news that we should kind of talk about, don't you think?
All Elite Wrestling Announcement
00:38:42
Speaker
What news? Something kind of happened last night late. Was it around 2 a.m. our time? It was around 2 a.m., but, again, remember, I was asleep, so... Oh, I was awake and I watched the second it was posted.
00:38:54
Speaker
Big news in the world of pro wrestling. All elite wrestling is a reality. It's coming soon. And on top of that, they're doing a sequel to all in called Double or Nothing. Which presumably is in Vegas. Presumably. We'll get to that in a minute. But we're here.
00:39:15
Speaker
like I mean I guess the announcement everyone's excited about everyone kind of knew it was coming though too right like there's been enough leaks and discussion about it but I guess the official announcement from them makes it a big deal how'd you feel about the logo what are your thoughts knowing that what's the president of the Jacksonville Jaguars is the president of all elite wrestling
00:39:35
Speaker
What are your thoughts, man? I'm excited. I mean, we were excited before. I think I don't know what announcement we were expecting to get. We ended up basically getting an announcement that was essentially. Yep. Like it was them double. Yep. Just like double. Yep. Quadruple. Yep. We're all here. We're doing it. And does that include SCU?
00:40:00
Speaker
I know they're supposed to be at that, they're doing, what is it, a press conference in Jacksonville. Yeah, and I guess SCU's gonna be there. Do you know what else is happening? They said within walking distance from that press conference. I heard something that SmackDown's in town that night. They're doing it in the same town that SmackDown's happening in. So are they doing an invasion one more time? I mean, is that another blatant declaration of war?
00:40:28
Speaker
Well, let's talk about this for a minute. Before we start analyzing all the little bits and pieces of this, let's dive into the hard part, which is, do you think that AEW, is it going to actually be, can it be competition to WWE, or is this just an alternative product? Or is the existence of this meant to push WWE to be better? Go. I guess it could kind of act as both, right?
00:41:00
Speaker
I mean, do you buy the AEW could ever run WWE out of business? I've said for a long time that a lot of these indie wrestlers, if they were given the platform to do what we've watched them do in these bingo halls to a wide audience, that an audience would be captivated enough by the athleticism and conveniently the charisma of this very talented group they have, I think they can take it over.
00:41:28
Speaker
So you think that what happens on the indie scene, if more eyes could get on it, you actually think that would catch on and be preferred. Like it's, you actually like, like, like WWE is holding back. Like they have the talent who can pull off a lot of the things that you see on the indie scene that the elite pull off, but they don't let it happen on a national stage. Therefore the national eyes don't see it.
00:41:55
Speaker
And that's why it's not a thing. That's why you have to go to your local bingo hall to see this. And that's why I think WWE could have beaten them to the punch on this if they had just done something to further push NXT into more houses. But can't they still technically do that? They can, but
00:42:16
Speaker
Yeah, and you know they have a big enough roster that it's not like too little too late or anything. But yeah, I mean it's gonna be interesting once we see what cast of characters they have. Are they gonna start running this show like a like a television version of being the elite? Or is it gonna be presented like a sporting event? Is it gonna be presented just like WWE? I guess you know what I read today too from one of the dirt sheets was
00:42:40
Speaker
That so con is officially the president and he is appointed cody in the box as co vice presidents. Of the company. And that a big part of the deal in signing these guys and like getting this started was that the team the creative team behind all and had to be the ones in charge of creative.
00:43:01
Speaker
I guess this brings up another question I wanted to ask you, which is, do you think that if they're gonna be performers or wrestlers for this brand, are they gonna be able to shake the perception of also being management?
00:43:17
Speaker
Because is that gonna play on the way people view things or how things are booked if they know that Cody and the Bucks are part of the decision making process? I mean, even if you trust their judgment and think they'll do a good job, is that something that you know how fucking wrestling fans are?
00:43:34
Speaker
something goes wrong they're looking for somebody to blame and where the issues are and is there going to be a perception that they're not doing jobs or they're booking things and like even if you give them the benefit of that do you think there'll be some backlash over those guys being in management positions for this
00:43:52
Speaker
With the internet, there's going to be backlash over literally anything. So I think there will be. But I also think like as being the elite has gone on for I mean, how many episodes are they up to now at 100 and something? Yeah, like one hundred and forty or whatever.
00:44:08
Speaker
Throughout that, they've admitted like when there's bad sketches and things that just didn't work, they kind of seem to own up to it and kind of poke fun at bits that didn't work. And also Cody has already kind of set himself up by running his own show and booking the match that should have been the main event in the middle of the card. So I feel like they're doing a pretty good job right now of easing us in to thinking
00:44:38
Speaker
This isn't gonna be like when Hollanash. Yeah, I would like to think that they've watched enough that they have seen what hasn't worked and what, you know, brought down WCW. These seem like smart guys. So, but here's the interesting thing.
00:44:57
Speaker
how is their working relationship with Ring of Honor and New Japan gonna be? Because I think New Japan is gonna be able to work out deals with Ring of Honor. Like there's gonna be that exchange of talent. Do you think that if you own ROH, are you looking at this and going, oh fuck. Like there's a huge chunk of our market that's gonna be going to them.
00:45:22
Speaker
I would have thought that, and I mean, we talked about that where I'm like, well, Ring of Honor's fucked. But then they had four really good signings. And honestly, Mark Haskins and Bandito going over there is enough that's gonna keep me paying attention as long as they're doing something cool over there. I don't see New Japan wanting to cut ties with those guys. If I were them, I would wanna have as much of a working relationship as I could.
00:45:52
Speaker
But is New Japan going to be able to do work with them and ROH? Like, I mean, I guess the question is. And I don't mean this in a in a way where I'm suggesting that it shouldn't exist, but I'm saying what exactly is the point of all the wrestling that our way to New Japan aren't already fulfilling?
00:46:13
Speaker
Like, what is AEW going to offer the wrestling market that ROH and New Japan don't?
AEW vs. WWE: Industry Impact
00:46:22
Speaker
Not as in, like, I don't believe they don't have anything, but like, what will be their niche? The elite. They've got the guys. I mean, those guys are the reason that everybody started paying attention to Ring of Honor for a while.
00:46:37
Speaker
You know, not to say that Ring of Honor doesn't go through phases where it's like they've got this group of guys and then they leave and have to rebuild, but this seemed like one of the most major factions in pro wrestling in a very long time. But wouldn't part of their job to be to put over other people that aren't the elite? If they're in this company? You mean, if AEW or are you talking? Yeah. Yeah, for AEW is that if the drawing point of AEW is the elite,
00:47:07
Speaker
They're still gonna have to do pro wrestling business that's not the elite, I guess is what I'm saying. Because it can't just be them going over every night.
00:47:20
Speaker
No, it can't. And I don't think that it would be that way. I think they would do a good job of finding good heels, or if they make themselves heels, find somebody that you want to see beat their ass. Because I've watched the young bucks lose a bunch. I've watched them be heels, and I've watched them be babyfaces, and they've done incredible at both.
00:47:39
Speaker
I'm excited about it. I think I do think this is a big deal. I do think it's a turning point. And I do think this announcement getting the kind of backing that they're getting. What's the guy's name? Khan at Tony Khan, I believe. Tony. OK, getting that kind of backing from somebody with that kind of money. Like, I don't know if the.
00:47:58
Speaker
We'll have to take it one step at a time. I don't know if they're going to be serious competition for WWE. I do think once again, running some kind of press conference or show like in the same town they're doing SmackDown in. I think that'll get noticed. There may be another billionaire doing it. A guy who's got more money than Vince.
00:48:20
Speaker
Yeah, and they were already on Vince's radar to begin with, whether or not they ever wanted to talk about it. I mean, it was worth a cease and desist, wasn't it? It was worth firing one of their riders over.
00:48:33
Speaker
Yeah it's going to be interesting to see where this goes. I mean for all we know they end up doing a deal with Netflix you know something that everybody has access to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Either one. I don't know. Do you think being on network TV would help them or do you think being on a major streaming service would be more beneficial.
00:48:54
Speaker
I, fuck, I don't know, man. Because I think everything is trending towards internet service options, as opposed, because, you know, people talk all the time, again, we talk about how raw ratings and SmackDown ratings are down, but a lot of that has to do with people not watching stuff live anymore. People go back and watch things, or people watch stuff on social media, on YouTube.
00:49:19
Speaker
They watch the parts they want to watch and they skip the parts they don't care about. And that's just kind of the nature of the market. So maybe moving away from a network deal, although that's maybe that's where the biggest money is. I don't know. I do know that them getting any kind of major TV time either way is a big freaking deal because if because I think you and I both agree that the indie style of pro wrestling, if more eyes were on it, people would get it and it would catch on.
00:49:48
Speaker
And it's like the X games of pro wrestling. Yeah. And I think that part of the there's a stigma. And this is this since we've been doing the podcast, this is something that I've had to work on. You have to put an effort to watch into your wrestling. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm just saying it's a thing that the casual viewer. It's a wall that they have to get through.
00:50:11
Speaker
ROH, whenever I watched ROH on actual TV, like on broadcast television, it's always been late at night, like when people are out doing other things on the weekend. New Japan, you have to watch it on your laptop at three in the morning kind of thing.
00:50:27
Speaker
and I think impact you have to go into the middle of the woods, skin a deer, pull the deer open, stick your head inside the hole like it's a fucking taunt on, and hope you get signal. And so I think the thing you take away from this is realizing that it doesn't matter how good your fucking product is, if nobody can see it, or if it's difficult to see, it's not gonna take off. And then you can still have people gonna say,
00:50:54
Speaker
even if you get eyes on it, maybe it won't catch on. I think Vince believes that, and I think that's what we think he believes, is that whatever it is that people like about indie wrestling, it's only ever going to be a niche market. It's gonna be a small percentage of people who that's what they're into, and that there's always gonna be the perception that because it's a work, because it's predetermined, because it's not a real sport, that when people see the acrobatic, athletic side of the indie style of wrestling,
00:51:23
Speaker
that they're gonna go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, flips and shit, but it doesn't matter, it's fake, and change the channel. I'm excited about it. I'm really hoping it does change the game. I'll go as far as saying I don't believe that they'll ever put Vince out of business. I think that's outrageous, considering Ted Turner in a huge budget couldn't do it during the peak of pro wrestling.
00:51:51
Speaker
But I do think that what this can do is it can change how WWE runs their business. And if they see that there's something that is working elsewhere and it's drawing money and gaining attention and it's, you know, WWF changed and did the attitude era in response to what WCW was doing because it was a threat on some level.
00:52:18
Speaker
and eventually almost did run them out of business, but it was a response to the business model changing. Maybe all elite wrestling will do that. But we also have to stop and talk about double or nothing.
00:52:30
Speaker
What is, what is your perception on, I guess they haven't officially announced where it's going to happen, but the presumption is Vegas. You seem to have insider information that it's definitely Vegas. Well, I know, um, our buddies from the, the true heel podcast, they met Cody and lie or met him at the meet and greet at final battle. And he straight up told them it's going to be in Vegas in May.
00:52:55
Speaker
and not even being coy about it no like that's what i mean and what he said to me isn't didn't he say may but he didn't specify he told them labor day weekend and vegas and when he told me and at the nwa show yeah he just said he's like yeah leave may open we're gonna do the sequel
00:53:11
Speaker
It's funny that he's the most loose-lipped guy, but there's an element of it that's like, he's definitely fucking with me. Why would he give me this information? Which once again, I'm telling you, Cody Rhodes is the most bang for your buck in a meet and greet. He makes you feel like you got some insider info. Or maybe he realized that in the modern day pro wrestling scene, the best way to hide something is out in plain sight.
00:53:40
Speaker
Because leaks are so prevalent. Because people are always looking for spoilers and they're always digging for more information. The best way to make somebody think that something's a work is to just be straightforward. And then you still leave him guessing because they think there's no way he just told me that. So I guess with All In 2, do you think that as they... Do you think that All In 2 will end up kind of being the launch of their whatever this is going to be?
00:54:07
Speaker
You had mentioned this and that was actually my first thought too when I heard about AEW in a sequel to All In. Yeah, that's what I think it's ultimately going to be. Because you know it would be a fun way to roll out the roster is by gradually showing you who's going to be there again.
00:54:28
Speaker
And this time, I don't know, since Impact and Ring of Honor work together and New Japan and, you know, Ring of Honor have their own thing going on, I don't think it's impossible that they could do some kind of deal where it ends up just being like a territory thing and you get people to bounce around from show to show a little more.
00:54:47
Speaker
It's going to be interesting. I wanted to bring this up a few minutes ago, but it's going to be interesting to see if all these companies can work together. I think I think that's the one thing that we as as kind of fans of the different indie promotions that are out there, we're giving them the benefit of the doubt that this won't get nasty. And I don't know that we necessarily should be doing that.
00:55:10
Speaker
That's true. But I don't know, when you look at the people that are in charge, if Chris Jericho's doing the all elite thing, he's buddies with Don Callis over at Impact. I mean, the Bucks have a good relationship with ROH and I don't know, maybe they can be the mediators of everyone.
00:55:28
Speaker
I'm just saying that if you're ROH, maybe right now you're going, hey guys, good luck. Go do your best. We're excited to see what you guys do. And maybe six months from now, you're feeling a little bit differently about it since all of your top guys basically just walked out and started their own thing.
00:55:46
Speaker
Yeah like I'm sure I'm sure Vince when he lets when he lets Scott Hall and Kevin Nash go to shitty WCW who's like hey go get your money whatever fuck you guys for leaving but you know good luck whatever and then I think you know a year or two later is thinking fuck them like fuck everything fuck everything about them
00:56:06
Speaker
I can't believe they did this to me I'm just and I'm not saying that's necessarily what's gonna happen I just he's just crying in his office like what's wrong Vince he goes diesel fucked me big daddy Walter goddamn I'm not gonna be able to unsee that I just I like I just think it's
00:56:25
Speaker
We're so excited about having all these different options. It's going to be really interesting if ROH's ticket sales take a hit or the interest takes a hit and all the attention does is turn to AEW. And will they ever run shows close to when an ROH show is? And will people hold off on buying? Because that's the thing, is this stuff?
00:56:49
Speaker
As you have more options and you have more things to spend money on, not everyone is going to buy all of it. Somebody's going to shift their focus and their dollars elsewhere. How many times have you said like about mania weekend? You aren't going to be able to fit everything into your schedule that you would like and you're going to prioritize what you want to go to.
00:57:09
Speaker
and then suddenly you have like four promotions running through your town, you know, every couple months, like you're gonna probably cut some stuff out. Yeah. I think the thing that I'm most surprised about with all of this news, and I talked to you a little bit about it, all in was in September, given it was like September 1st, yes. Wow, what are we four months from that now? Good Lord.
00:57:38
Speaker
jeez, all in was four months ago. It feels like it was a year ago. Does it? I feel like so much has happened in between that it's just, yeah. That's true. But to me, it still kind of feels like it was just like last week in some, in some ways to me. It was such a memorable weekend and it was just, I guess to build to the point I was getting to, which is I'm surprised another one of these is happening so soon within the same calendar year.
00:58:09
Speaker
Like in my mind, do you remember when we were going into all in and the discussion was when do you think they'll win or if do you think they'll do another one of these? I wouldn't have guessed in May. Yeah, right.
00:58:21
Speaker
I mean, I think it'll work in Vegas because it's so close to LA. Vegas is a place you go to for spectacle and shows. Honestly, it's an easy place to fly into. I want to say I was looking up tickets from Chicago to there, and it was like 100 bucks or something. It's a pretty easy place for anyone in the US to get to. Right. I mean, it's almost surprising that this isn't where they did it first. You know what I mean?
00:58:51
Speaker
It seemed like they wanted they had specific cities they were trying to make it happen. And if they're doing it in Vegas, I think the question is where they would do it. Because if they truly are going double the seats, I think T-Mobile where WWE runs would be the next place. I think that's that's the arena there. Yeah.
00:59:14
Speaker
Yeah, I, I guess I just look at it and I, I mean, it's going to work. I don't have any doubts about that. I guess I'm just surprised at how quickly it's moving. Yeah. Like, like I'm not saying that loses. I don't want to say it loses it being special.
00:59:31
Speaker
But it like to go from where we were just like, you know, five months ago where we were thinking like, oh, man, I wonder if all in does what good if they'll just do one every year? And they're I mean, like, I guess they're technically doing that, but it doesn't. I don't know. It feels like they could potentially do more than that. I mean, and I guess good kudos to them. That was the vision. Maybe it maybe ended up. See, that's the other thing. I never feel like as a fan that I got
00:59:59
Speaker
like the details on what their response was to how good all in weekend went. Well once again it's you know while we were watching that we also said there's a lot of other people watching this as well. You have no idea if a network is watching this if an investor is watching. But I think somebody saw that money was to be made and I'm very excited to see what platform they're going forward in. Yeah. I'm just I guess I'm overwhelmed with how quickly all this is coming together.
01:00:29
Speaker
I think that we were, we were thinking, I guess the all elite wrestling thing is really the big story here. Not so much double or nothing because I think at all in, we were thinking, wow, it would be so cool if we got to see another show like this. And now they're talking about having their own promotion. Like it's, it's, it's, and they've got the financial backing. So yeah, obviously someone was paying attention. They got what they wanted.
01:00:58
Speaker
I had a topic I wanted to bring up for this episode. I think I'm gonna save it, honestly. Yeah, we ran a lot longer talking about all elite wrestling than I was anticipating. Well, I knew it was gonna be a big topic to cover because I mean, good Lord, it's just, I don't know. It's a huge news thing in the world of pro wrestling. We have to cover it. But I do wanna say we put out a request for some questions. We're gonna do some Q and A here at the end of the episode, even if it's only a couple.
01:01:27
Speaker
You want to dive into these. Yeah hit me with me. I have not seen these yet. Put out a Q&A request and we got our first one from a what would you call a regular listener friend a good friend of the show. You guys probably heard of him. His name's Lowell.
01:01:45
Speaker
And he, we have to talk about this now. America's favorite Canadian. America's favorite Canadian. He has some issues with me, but I still love him. I think his issues with you are very valid. Lowell asks, are there any locations you think double or nothing will be in? My pick is T-Mobile Arena in Vegas. I'm definitely going. If it's in Vegas, will you two be going?
01:02:08
Speaker
I actually just said T-Mobile actually. That's the one that makes the most sense. I don't know of any other arenas that that would work in. The other places they do is usually Samstown or the Orleans. Those are both smaller places. So I think it would be T-Mobile.
01:02:25
Speaker
As far as this going, as far as like you and I talked about it, um, I'm planning on trying to make that work. I, we don't, we need to know more details about when, and what, what the situation is, if they're going to be doing starcast. Uh, I don't know if you noticed the event in Jacksonville, Florida is actually one of the sponsors was listed as starcast.
01:02:48
Speaker
yeah so uh to me that says it will be there and actually no code that was one of the things cody said is that they were doing star cast again that's why he's like because i mentioned we did star cast the first time and he's like oh we're going to be doing it again you'll have to come in for the sequel
01:03:03
Speaker
I guess I just want to know I want to know the details is going to be the second of Vegas hotel. How I want to know how that's going to work. But well, either way, I mean, the second we're available to purchase our way into Starcast or any of that stuff, I will 100 percent be doing that. I am I'm ready to experience that weekend again. So I for one will be there one way or the other.
01:03:30
Speaker
I'm excited, I would like to, actually the thing I'm most nervous about is the ticket process again. Do you remember what a fucking nightmare that was? Yeah, but this time there's gonna be double the tickets, we'll be fine. Double the tickets and closer to LA. Yeah, which means our west coast correspondent, John, is gonna come with us. Next question comes from at hockeymegan85.
01:04:02
Speaker
You know who that is? I believe that's your girlfriend. Yeah, that's my girlfriend. On Twitter, that's my girlfriend, Megan. She asks, both of us, what is your favorite part about watching and going to a pro wrestling show with someone who isn't familiar with it or is just getting into it?
01:04:26
Speaker
I love picking someone's brain and also just kind of watching them. It's like if I'm watching my favorite movie with somebody who's never seen it, I feel like I'm constantly looking over to gauge their reactions and enjoyment, which probably makes it harder for them to enjoy. Like you're looking for validation.
01:04:44
Speaker
Yeah. And then it also, you know, you'll get things that surprise me. Like, to me, at the time when Dean Ambrose was on top, and everyone loved Ambrose, I was very surprised when a couple friends were like, I don't like this guy. What's his deal? He just has a name? He just has a regular name, and he's a guy? I was like, yeah, but he's unhinged. He's crazy. Yeah. They're like, nah, he's just a guy.
01:05:09
Speaker
I think my thing with it is I think that because there's a certain perception of Pro Wrestling and the fans it's fun watching somebody who otherwise would probably tell you I'm not into that I don't get it it's watch it's fun watching them get sucked in even if it's just for a moment like where you can see that they they get it and they get why people like it even if they don't walk away as like a lifetime fan like they understand it for a little while about why it's fun and
01:05:39
Speaker
And to me, that was one of the things I enjoyed most about bringing non-wrestling fans to PWG. It was like just taking you inside of this little fight club where you got to experience a thing, and most people seemed to not expect what it was. And by the end, when they left, they were always like, oh, I'm definitely coming back to this. Just seeing that glee. That's a lot of fun.
01:06:05
Speaker
We don't really have any other things for Q&A. I do want to point out I made a commitment that this month is going to be the month where I break out my pro wrestling t-shirt tournament. I promised everyone I was working on. I have the bracket made. I have the seating.
01:06:21
Speaker
in some former fashion assembled. I know what we're doing for shirts. I kind of, I actually brought Queen of the Ring in on this. I got her personal opinion on how my bracket looked and who was gonna be involved. And I think it's gonna be good. I think I'm gonna either try to get the bracket out, maybe today, maybe when you guys are listening to this podcast, I'll have it up.
01:06:45
Speaker
But either way, by the end of the week, we'll be able to do that and they can vote. Our listeners can vote on what they think is the greatest pro wrestling shirt of all time. We're going to have that tournament. Your voice will be heard on this. I put a lot of time into this and I think you guys are going to have fun with it. And we can share that on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Yeah, which means now's as good a time as any to plug all of our goddamn social media.
01:07:12
Speaker
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01:07:28
Speaker
We don't care. Hey, thank you so much for listening. This has been an awesome year. I really appreciate all of you hanging out with us in 2018. Looking forward to what 2019 is holding because it looks like it's going to be a pretty glorious year for wrestling coming up this weekend. I've already first weekend in January. I already have three shows I'm attending. I'll be at the
01:07:49
Speaker
nwa pop-up show in clarksville i'll be at the impact pay-per-view taping in nashville as well as the tv taping on monday so if you're gonna be at any of those shows come say hi take some stickers with you hand out some stickers and some buttons and business cards i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna make sure you have that stuff on them i'm gonna smack one right on brian cage's ass
01:08:13
Speaker
I think we're stealing a gimmick from the Edge and Christian podcast. Do they touch Brian Cage's butt? There's a running joke over there that Christian's constantly trying to smack Edge's ass. You smacked my ass before. Done more than that to it. Alright everybody, thanks for listening. What the fuck?
01:08:34
Speaker
That's, uh, I haven't done more than that, Derek. I feel like the listeners should know. We fell off the cliff at the end of this. Eh? Oh, fuck. God. How do we get out of this, Derek? Yeah, hit our goddamn music.