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Episode 139: 5-minute Method for Getting Organized
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If you've listened to the podcast for any significant amount of time you know that my systems for organization and productivity have evolved. So, in an episode like this where I'm sharing my 3-step 5-minute system for being as productive as possible, know I'm not trying to sell anyone on committing to a specific system. But hopefully, if you're listening and thinking that you could really use some more structure in your day that allows for efficiency, then maybe this episode helps you come up with your own system, or maybe there's a part of my system that you can appropriate into your own.
For show notes visit...https://daveyandkrista.com/btb-episode-139-5-minute-method-for-getting-organized/
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Balancing Family and Business
00:00:05
Speaker
Yeah, well, I'm interested in hearing it too, because I do like efficiency strategies, but I do live in a very distractible world as a homeschool mom. My kids are in my face a lot in a good way. So I'm interested to hear how you do this, managing multiple businesses with work from home spouse. You've got a lot of the cows, pigs, all the distraction.
Brands at Book Show Introduction
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Speaker
Welcome to the Brands at Book Show, where we help creative service-based businesses build their brands and find more clients. I'm your host, Davy Jones.
00:00:38
Speaker
If you've listened to the podcast for any significant amount of time, you know that my systems for organization and productivity have evolved. So in an episode like this, where I'm sharing my three-step, five-minute system for staying as productive as possible, I'm not trying to sell anyone on committing to a specific system.
Creating a Productivity System
00:00:55
Speaker
But hopefully, if you're listening and thinking that you could really use some more structure in your day that allows for efficiency, then maybe this episode helps you come up with your own system. Or maybe there's a part of my system that you can appropriate into your own. A few things that I want to note at the outset, some of these ideas have come from Michael Hyatt's planner and book, which I linked to in the show notes. And unsurprisingly, I talk about one of the few tools that has stood the test of time. It's called to do and spelled
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Speaker
T-E-U-X-D-E-U-X.
Task Management Tools
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Speaker
It's awesome. Highly recommend that you check it out. I've been using this system for, you know, I would say the better part of me. And it's been awesome. And it's really allowed me to organize my time in a way where I'm focusing on those things that are most important. I hope you find this helpful.
00:01:49
Speaker
Be sure to check out the show notes at daveyandchrista.com for the resources that we mentioned in the episode. And as always, we want to hear from you. Let us know what kind of content you'd like to see on the brand set book podcast as we move forward to leave your feedback. Just send us a DM on Instagram at daveyandchrista. Now onto the episode.
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Speaker
All right, Vanessa, we have chatted in the past before about planning your day, efficiency, productivity in the past. I've had you answer the question about whether you're a digital planner or a paper planner. Has that answer changed at all?
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Speaker
It has changed. I think, you know, I'm a mom of three kids and they're older. They're not older kids, but they're middle school age. And so they have a lot of activities. And so I've switched to basically having a kind of like central calendar, like basically Google calendar, because my husband can add to it. We can have sports events. We can have my work stuff, my personal stuff.
00:02:47
Speaker
And I realized by having a paper planner, I was always missing on those parts because my husband would add to it. So I've now switched. I used to have a paper planner like a week in a glance or a day in a glance. Now I do Google Cal and then I write down my bullet points for the week.
00:03:03
Speaker
if that makes sense. Just bullet journal. And then I cross them off as I do them. And I found that I'm more successful that way because I'm not missing the personal part of my life. The word part was on there, the personal was missing. So I've kind of changed. I also need to access things in my phone a lot where I'm like, what time is this event? And it's easier to look at my Google account. So welcome to 2021.
00:03:28
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Exactly. I was using that old method very successfully all throughout college, but I've never been a big phone person and now I'm just having to rely on it more. Yeah.
Reducing Phone Dependency
00:03:38
Speaker
It's funny you say that. I've been thinking lately about how I can get rid of my phone.
00:03:43
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that's been the problem that I've been trying to solve. So if you're listening and you found a way where you can just basically get rid of your phone and still operate, let me know. And I know this sounds like a ridiculous thing, but I mean, we just use our phone for so much, right? I mean, even if it's like you're out and, you know, a spouse can get in touch with you or like you said, I mean, just in terms of like staying organized or, or what I found is just like the random Google search, like,
00:04:06
Speaker
Oh, I don't, you know, I don't know about that. Let me check, you know? But I'm really trying to figure out how I can, I've thought about maybe getting a second phone. That's really just like a personal, you know, like this is my personal phone. It's going to have very limited, like it's not going to have any social media on it. And this is what I carry around. And then during work hours, I can go on my other phone for work related things, I guess. I don't know. I'm trying to solve this issue.
00:04:32
Speaker
I'm a funny thought because I, you know, a lot of people, productivity people will be like, put your phone, like deep work, put your phone in a drawer and leave it there. So I started to do that. And what was happening is my husband was trying to contact me. So he would call me on the Alexa, which is like in our kitchen right behind me. And he's like, Vanessa, Vanessa. And I realized like, I can't.
00:04:51
Speaker
I don't know. Maybe if I was single or we all worked in this, my husband was working from home. But like, there are so many things that I have to respond to throughout the day that leaving my phone was actually in some ways could have been dangerous. Like what a sure.
00:05:05
Speaker
There's a medical issue and your husband can't reach you on your Alexa. So I feel, yeah, I will say though, as we approach the age, we're still years away of thinking about phones for our kids. I really don't want them to have a phone that does anything other than text and call. And sometimes I do leave my phone at home and I realize if there's an emergency, there are a million people around me that I could call.
00:05:26
Speaker
You know, like back when people just had house phones, like they survived emergencies with, you know, but anyways, I mean, there are phones that have been rolled out. I can't remember the name of it, but there's a phone that's made like it's meant to be a distraction list phone that can hook up to like something like a work phone. Should you need the forward calls, things like that during different times of the day, but it's like meant to be.
00:05:51
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Like your distractionless phone, yeah. So, you know, I've thought about things like that, but he just, I haven't come to anything where I'm like, oh, that's definitely going to work. That's definitely going to eliminate the problem. Social media is something else. Like obviously Fortill, especially we're running Facebook and Instagram ads. So I can't just get rid of my Facebook account, right?
00:06:08
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But at the same time, I'm thinking like, what if I unfriended everybody, right? And again, this sounds, this sounds harsh. This would be nothing personal against anybody, but basically there'd be no reason to go on Facebook or Instagram outside of, okay, I have something work related to do. And so I'm going to go do it, you know? But I just think, you know, connectedness, it's like destroying my soul.
00:06:33
Speaker
Well, yeah, connectedness online versus connecting with the people in your life, for sure. I will say this is not sponsored, but you should look into this phone called Pinwheel. Again, thinking about phones for kids. There's some way where a master accounts, maybe that's Krista or someone who can take away certain things from you. And it might be a way that like on weekends, it takes away certain apps.
00:06:56
Speaker
Krista would love that. Krista would love that because we joke. Krista, you know, she acts like she's my mom, you know? Even when it's eating like Davey. Stop snacking, Davey. Stop snacking. I'm like, what? Who are you? Like, I'm an adult, you know?
00:07:11
Speaker
You're talking to Jack right now? But yeah, so this is a good segue in because what we're talking about, I have for myself, just out of need, had to come up with a system for organization, having three different businesses and, you know, just a lot of commitments in life, you know, that are not business related and figuring out a way that I can function during the day.
Organizing Tasks Efficiently
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And what I've come up with is pretty exciting. I've been using it for a couple months now and I just think it's really sort of like, it's one of those things where I'm like, man, if I was doing this since the time I was 21,
00:07:41
Speaker
I would be, you know, who knows where I'd be right now. Just so the efficiency that could have been, right? So I'm excited to share this with somebody you might need to hear.
00:07:51
Speaker
It's kind of like buying Bitcoin when it first started. I know if I just... Or my favorite really is the S&P 500. I'm not really a Bitcoin kind of person, but yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm interested in hearing it too, because I do like efficiency strategies, but I do live in a very distractible world as a homeschool mom. My kids are in my face a lot in a good way. So I'm interested to hear how you do this, managing multiple businesses with work from home spouse. You've got a lot of the cows, the pigs, all the distractions.
00:08:20
Speaker
Let's hear it. Awesome. So this is a three step system. Could be a five step system for people. So we'll talk about the, you know, why it's a three step, five step system here in a second. And like I said, it basically got to this point because I was like, just feeling like I had a thousand things to do. Didn't really know, you know, it's like, where do I start with my day? You know, trouble figuring out what's most important, what's going to
00:08:42
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you know, create the most impact. So that's what kind of got me to that moment. I've tried different planners in the past, you know, some of this actually comes from whereas, you know, stuff that I sort of liked about Michael Hyatt's paper planner that he has. And I forget what it's called. It's been a few years since I've used it. But the problem with it is one, you know, the paper and pencil having to write things down, not going anywhere electronically and managing that
00:09:06
Speaker
on a daily basis. So that didn't really fit for me. But here, I think this is, here are some of the things that I think make this system powerful. And so it's things that I think, you know, if people are trying to figure out their own system, maybe should think through. Okay. So one, I think it forces some mid to long range thinking.
00:09:22
Speaker
You know, it's always good to have an idea of like where you want to go, right? So I do think long-term planning is important. Problem with long-term planning is that you set this goal and maybe you're like, this is what I'm going to be doing by the end of the year. And it's like too long of a plan, right? And so many things come up during the year that maybe have caused you to have to change course that it can be hard to actually take practical steps towards it, right?
00:09:45
Speaker
So on the flip side, I think that, you know, this system, I needed something that's going to break down my mid to long range goals into something that was a little bit more bite-sized and practical. So I wanted that balance between short and long-term goals. I needed something that was super practical, like, you know, some of these systems out there, it's like, you need to spend an hour just organizing, right? And it's like, I don't have an extra hour in my day just to get organized or just to, you know, reflect at the end of the day or whatever.
00:10:14
Speaker
It's like the goal set just for the purpose of setting goals, like people who really enjoy things like that, yeah.
00:10:19
Speaker
Yeah. And so there's no time for something like that. So it needs to be practical and really need to be something I can do in a few minutes. Also something like to your point, he said, kind of make space and account for life a little bit too, because there are, you know, there's more to life than work. So, you know, wanted to make sure that it accounted for life. And I don't know about you, but this is one of my things. I'm one of those people who will make a list just so I can cross things off and I'll include things on that list that aren't really that important, but it feels good to be able to cross things off.
00:10:47
Speaker
Heck yeah, all that stuff to the list that I already did that wasn't on the paper just so I can cross it off. Exactly. But there's a danger in that for people like me, at least, where I'm like, now my list might be super long, but what had I really achieved that day? And I'd be looking at it and I'm like, really?
00:11:05
Speaker
I don't know, I emailed that person back and that somehow made it on my list as if it's, you know, something that actually moves the needle and it doesn't, right? So I needed to make sure that I was getting focused on the most important things. And so this is kind of the system that I came up with. One, I have a whiteboard. It's actually one of those cool little like blackboards, but you know, dry erase type markers, forget what they're called.
00:11:28
Speaker
I'll take a picture of it. I'm actually planning on doing a YouTube video so people can actually see the Blackboard. So there'll be a YouTube video released with this episode. So if you're interested in seeing how I organize this, you'll be able to see it. But basically I start with a column all the way to the right of the Blackboard and it says this month. All right. And it has the three businesses listed and there's only enough space to put one goal for that month. So for the month,
00:11:53
Speaker
what would be the most important thing I can do for that business, something that's going to make an impact, actually move things forward. All right. So like organizing a file cabinet, that kind of thing, probably not that anybody has a file cabinet, organizing your digital file cabinet. Some, I mean, I know I could organize the tabs. I mean, the, uh, the icons on my desktop, but, um, that probably doesn't count. Right.
Setting Focused Goals
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So.
00:12:19
Speaker
So bigger things, not necessarily just revenue goals, because obviously for each one of those things, it would be grow in revenue, grow in client acquisition, but it could be like prepare for the Black Friday sale. Could that be a monthly goal?
00:12:32
Speaker
Yeah, that could be it. I mean, so one of my goals actually for this month for Davy and Krista was planning and recording all of the content for the rest of the year for Q4, right? In part because we're getting ready, you know, to have Krista is getting ready to have our second son and we'd like it for it to be a less busy season, right? I would say typically though, you know, that probably wouldn't usually make it on as a monthly goal. Although I think it's, you know, probably still a pretty good one.
00:12:58
Speaker
And to your point about revenue, yeah, I agree. Like it wouldn't be necessarily a revenue goal, but it might be something that moves you to a revenue goal. All right. I start at the month. That's the farthest out that I'm planning. It's not that I'm not thinking about what I want to do for the quarter or for the year, but for me, it's just, you know, looking at things in 30 day sprints is very manageable. And I found that it makes me a lot more productive than goals that are 365 days out. Does that make sense?
00:13:27
Speaker
Yeah, well, things change. I mean, you have to prepare to be flexible. And I feel like a year out, you could develop a new product, or you could decide to ditch a new product, and your plans have changed. So to me, it saves you, it's more efficient to kind of plan a little bit more short sighted, if that makes sense.
00:13:43
Speaker
Yeah, and one of the pieces of content that we'll be rolling out with in December here is basically how to do a year-end review and look ahead to the next year. And I definitely think that's still important and valuable, but on a daily basis, when I see this board, I am thinking 30 days out, right? And I'm setting goals to achieve whatever that 30-day goal is. So that's the first column is this month. Then the next column is this week. So by the end of the week, what do I need to have done that will get me that much closer to the goal I have for the month?
00:14:13
Speaker
So for instance, on my board right now, remaining 2021 content is the month. On my board right now is to finish recording YouTube videos. So that's one of the things I have to wrap up and that will help me get to that end of month goal. But again, you'll notice it's only one thing. I'm limiting myself to one thing per each of the businesses. I would say if you just have a business, like one business, going up to three things is probably okay.
00:14:40
Speaker
All right. But I would keep it, you know, I want to have a list greater than three things. And so would you say, would you say that those are the things you're focusing on as a CEO of, let's say, Davey and Krista, because your team members are helping move other things forward, because clearly there are other things that need to happen that week.
00:14:57
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, and that's something good to clarify too, is, you know, kind of whose goals are these. I could see them being team goals where, you know, maybe if you implemented this system for your entire team, you have the month goal up there and it's a shared goal. And then different people have different things they need to complete along the way. But for me, these are things I have to take care of. So there are,
00:15:18
Speaker
you know, pieces of this that are going to fall on other people. Like for instance, YouTube videos, like I don't edit my own YouTube videos. So that's going to go to somebody else. But the way that we structure like our team set up in terms of like task management, you know, we use ClickUp for that. So it doesn't really need to be built into the system. This is for me to stay hyper focused. And something that sounds like only you can do.
00:15:39
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. So these are my specific goals. I'm not listing what team members' tasks are here. And they very well might be supporting tasks. And one thing I'll get to in a minute here are some of the auxiliary systems that I use to support this one. So that's this week. And then, of course, I have a this day. And so it's what I need to do today to get myself closer to the goal for the end of the week, which will get me closer to the goal for the end of the month.
00:16:06
Speaker
And those are my three columns. That's it. All right. At the end of every day, something is either checked off that list or it's not because I limit it to one thing. It's very achievable. All right. And that's really what I'm trying to stay focused on is okay. What did I need to do? That's of actual impact. That is going to make me feel like, you know, at the end of the day, I really got something of substance done. Yeah. How do you tie in your personal life to those things?
00:16:30
Speaker
So that's a good question. So one of the other activities I did, so I have these three columns, you know, I would say nine times out of 10, you know, whatever I put on for that day gets done. I will say because I'm doing, you know, I have three different businesses. So some days I might only have for the today column, only two of three of the businesses might have something listed.
00:16:49
Speaker
because it might be like, for instance, one business tasks I know is going to take me all morning and I'm going to have to devote myself to the two of these three businesses today, right? So, you know, that occasionally happens too. But again, it makes me very, I think I'm much more intentional about setting goals too, because I want to actually reach those goals. So I'm not setting these really lofty like, you know,
00:17:10
Speaker
I'm gonna record content for all of 2022 this month, you know, something like that, right? So I have those three columns, but then I also put together a list of like 10 things. And I have this written on another whiteboard. You don't have to buy 10 whiteboards for this. You could write this down on a piece of paper. I like using whiteboards because, you know, they're hanging up in my office. Like it's something, if I look to my left, it's what I see, right? So something that is a visual reminder of what I need to have done.
00:17:36
Speaker
But anyways, I made a list of when I have a great day, why is it that I have a great day? And this is both work and personal life. And so some of the things that I came up with were, for instance, I have a great day typically when I get up early, when I don't sleep in. I think the beginning of the day is the only part of the day that you can really control. No one's sending me emails at four in the morning. So when I get up then,
00:18:02
Speaker
I'm going to be able to work for at least three hours before people start laying in my inbox and, you know, placing their demands on my time. And I'm going to get up and that's, you know, three hours earlier than my son gets up, you know, so a little, a little more control over my day. So I have a good day when I get up early, when I eat well, let's see, I have my list over here.
00:18:22
Speaker
when I get a workout in, all right? Even if it's as small as something that I have to just squeeze in, when I have a plan for the day, week, and month, all right? Which, again, that kind of played into the system that I created. Limit time on devices. That's something that I've been really bad about this week and maybe has been top of mind is I've just found myself picking up my phone.
Intentional Phone Usage
00:18:41
Speaker
And that's why I think putting your phone in a drawer somewhere or something else that I've been doing, I have a Bible that I put on top of my phone. And so the rule that I've placed for myself is that if I wanna go pick up my phone for some just random reason, I have to read a chapter before I do that. And it really does, it keeps me more intentional. And one thing that it's also, when you have like that intermediate step for me, it's like kicking the pants of like, oh man, you reach for your phone a lot.
00:19:10
Speaker
Right and not you I'm saying that to myself like I reach for my phone a lot You know like whenever something gets hard like I'm writing a blog article and all of a sudden like You know, I can't figure out the next sentence. It's like I just distract myself from by reaching for my phone So this helps me do that and you could probably do that for people could take that same tip appropriate it in all sorts of different ways Do something fun learn something new and then of course if I'm getting up early, I got to go to bed early. I
00:19:33
Speaker
So those are the things that I listed for myself. And so I have, on the same blackboard that I have, those three columns, I have three other things, exercise, learn, and fun. And so I put what I'm gonna do for those three categories that day, all right? So today I have to lift for exercise. For learning, I'm working on a new course, which I don't want to go into now. And for fun, typically it's something with Jack.
00:20:02
Speaker
You know, so today we're going to do a little excursion. So, and those are the three things that I'm gonna do today for those categories. And that's kind of my, you know, like life category, right? So that's how I organize sort of my time. And I found that really beneficial. It keeps me very focused on, you know, my short and mid range goals.
00:20:21
Speaker
All right. I found that it makes me very productive because I'm actually getting something that moves the needle done every single day versus doing a lot of busy work, which feels busy, you know, but doesn't necessarily mean you're doing anything of meaning. And yeah.
00:20:40
Speaker
I feel like what it does, like you mentioned, the main key of it is that you're doing really intentional items. There's nothing worse than, and I was starting to feel that a little bit today. So this is a day that my kids, they go to school twice a week and then they're home the other days. So this should be the day that I knock things out of the park. I was starting to feel a little bit bad. I knew this podcast recording was coming at 12 my time and I was like, I have an hour and I need to knock out these things and be super intentional during this time.
00:21:08
Speaker
And so just having a goal setting sheet for my bullet journal really helps me focus on that. And then like you mentioned, for me, taking a walk around the neighborhood is really important now that it's not a million degrees outside, dinner on a table. And then I like that my fun category is probably like a home buddy type evening where we don't have something going on. So yeah, where you just feel like overall over, we're human, we kind of need everything. We can't just focus on one thing. So nurturing those different parts of our life. So I love that.
00:21:38
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. And, you know, I think that like you just suggested, there's so many other parts of your day that go into making you feel like you had a really good day, right? And so I think just that, and maybe that's where people should start is like, list out 10 things that, you know, if those things happen during your day, it's going to be a pretty good day.
00:21:56
Speaker
And I think there's just a few really core parts. And for me, a lot of it's just taking care of myself, eating well, getting up early, and going to bed early. Regardless of what else happens during the day, that usually makes a difference in my day. Exercise, same thing. Going for a run can really, if you have a tough day at work, going for a run really helps me. But I have found that the
00:22:19
Speaker
specific three-step system around this day, this week, and this month really helped me be productive. I will mention a few things. One, I still use an app called Todo. It's T-E-U-X-D-E-U-X. It's like,
00:22:34
Speaker
a pretty simple to-do list software in browser. So not really software, I guess, but in browser app. And that's where I keep my to-do list every single day. And so, because you might be asking yourself, okay, well, what about something that you know you need to do tomorrow?
00:22:50
Speaker
where does that go? Well, I still keep that in my to-do list. And there's all sorts of things that I keep in my to-do list. And of course, I've closed all my browsers out right now. That might be things that are important for me to remember to get done, like to call somebody, like call somebody back or pay a bill or, you know, something like that. But I don't need that up on the board. Like that's the, that's one of those things that I know is going to take me five minutes. What I really need to focus on is
00:23:12
Speaker
today to record a YouTube outline so that I can record YouTube videos at the end of the week, right? So I used to do, and then Krista and I also use Google Calendar as well. And really, that's how I know if something I'm about to schedule is gonna conflict with something we have going on as a family or something I have going on with Krista as well. So it's not like I've completely detached myself from some of these other online systems, but I no longer use those
00:23:41
Speaker
as ways to organize the most important thing I need to do when it comes especially to work because I think it falls into the list as just one of a lot of other things, right? So when you're looking at that to-do list and it's long because you have, I don't know, you have to cut the yard today and you have to call this guy back and you have to make sure you pick up your kids from school at a certain time, right? Oh, and you need to do content planning for the rest of the month, right? It's like, well,
00:24:09
Speaker
I'm gonna check off all these other things because content planning might seem hard or I don't really feel like it right now or whatever. And then you get to the end of the day and you're like, yeah, I feel like I did stuff, but I didn't really do stuff. You know what I'm saying?
00:24:21
Speaker
I used to set up a matrix and I still kind of do where I have high mental task and low mental task. I didn't read this from someone. It's probably out there in a book somewhere. But I try to avoid doing low mental tasks like laundry or even like, you know, running errands during my highest mental task time. So for you, it sounds like between 4 and 7 a.m. might be your best time to do something that feels hard. Plus it's at the beginning of the day.
00:24:49
Speaker
So you get it done. And then things like mowing your lawn, it doesn't take that much mental effort, some physical, I guess, to get out there and do it. So I just try to make sure I don't align the things that are easy during the time that my brain is like the most productive and active.
00:25:04
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. And I think that's
Aligning Tasks with Energy Levels
00:25:06
Speaker
great advice too. And I think like getting nuanced with that as well and realizing that you might have two productive parts of the day. Like for me, I noticed that my most productive part of the day for sure is early morning, right? Into close to mid morning.
00:25:22
Speaker
But then I really have trouble like finding energy between, let's say like somewhere between noon and three. I feel like I hit sort of this like, Oh my gosh, I'm tired. I want to nap. I want to, you know, do anything else. But then, you know, typically around three 30 or four, I have another spurt of energy, you know,
00:25:41
Speaker
And so like realizing kind of those nuances of your day and planning accordingly, I think is just a really powerful exercise, especially if you have a family getting on the same page with like, let's say a spouse around that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Well, that's it. Any other questions about that?
00:26:01
Speaker
I was going to ask you, so you mentioned, I was just going to plug this. The name of the planner is the full focus planner and it's a quarterly planner, right? Did you ever read Michael Hyatt's book as well, where it's called, it's all about this concept. It's your best year and five step plan for achieving your most important goals.
00:26:19
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Yep, I read the book, I thought it was excellent. I can't, you know, it's funny, it's, I've read it, let's see, I'm trying to remember what year. It was before Jack was born. So it's been at least three years since I've read it. I remember reading it and thinking, oh wow, this is great. Like I read it in December, I think, or January maybe at the latest and thought like, oh, you know, like this is gonna, this is really great reading for the end of the year or the beginning of the year. Got the quarterly planner and then just found that like I used it for a little bit and then it just kinda
00:26:49
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It kind of faded, you know, but you took away a lot from the book and the ideas. So for sure to start if you're looking to unpack the five step or the three step system.
00:27:00
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Yeah. 100%. I'm jealous of people who can find a planner that they stick to religiously, you know, like that. Hey, this is what I've been using for. The only thing that's been as close, like even nearly close to that is to do that online, you know, to do list. That's the only like organizational tool that literally I've probably been using that for, I mean, I would say at least five years, but it might be like a closer to a decade
Evolving Productivity Systems
00:27:23
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now.
00:27:23
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Whoa, you've been using it that long? I mean, we've been talking about it for a while, but I didn't realize it wasn't even around that long. I don't know if it had been using it for a decade quite, but like I've been using it for a long time. And that's the only like sort of tried and true tool and sort of the different systems. And you know, it's funny if people go back and they listen to the different productivity episodes that we've done, you know, I think from before having kids that, you know, having Jack to now, like seasons change. And so I think like reading a book like Michael Hyatt's kind of doing some reflection on,
00:27:53
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you know, sort of what do you want to be true of your day? You know, what goes into you feeling like you had a great day and starting there and then sort of like, you know, just reverse engineering a system for that. You know, I think that's, you know, whether people end up using this system that like I've created for myself, I don't think is important, but hopefully people start thinking, you know, if someone's feeling like, oh, I need something like that. Hopefully if you're listening, this is a good place to start.
00:28:18
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Yeah, definitely. Cool. Well, Vanessa, thank you so much for those listening. Vanessa's coming on soon. So this episode's being released in December, I think, or November, I don't know, but a month or two from now and from the time we're recording this release, but Vanessa has already committed.
00:28:34
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to coming back on the podcast for our annual Pinterest episode. So we're going to be doing a Pinterest for 2022 episode coming up soon. That one will have to live stream. I'll actually, you know, get dressed out of joggers and a sweatshirt for that one. That sounds good. And it'll be a fun party because Pinterest has been so it's just it's changed so much in the last year. Good and different and it wants to be more social. And so we're going to talk about all those features.
00:29:03
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Yeah, can't wait. Thanks Vanessa. Thanks. Thanks for tuning into the brand set book show. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing and leaving a review in iTunes. For show notes and other resources, head on over to dvandchrista.com.
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