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Predetermined Rebooted 4: Surprise Amenities
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In this special episode Chris and Garrett CONTROL THEIR NUTRITION! You will be shocked at their review of EC III's seasonings! Also they're chatting GCW's Homecoming 2022 and Cole Radrick's BIG pants.
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Introduction and Podcast Excitement
00:00:36
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to a special episode of Predetermined, a Pro Wrestling Hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender. And I'm Chris, Miliato, just hanging out here. Garrett, excited to record, and you know how I'm excited to record, because I turned off Peacock to join you. Oh, I have a feeling I know what you were doing. Do you think I was watching NXT or something?
00:01:03
Speaker
I feel like it involves Miss Bareilles. It does. I was watching Girls 5 Eva. The second season is really good. I really got to get into that and then we can do a side podcast about it. It's delightful. There's an episode in the second season where they try to figure out if one of their band members faked their own death.
00:01:24
Speaker
It's tremendous. Honestly, that doesn't sound unlike something that would happen in wrestling. I think three man band. I think gender all died three or four years. He's just a hologram and Vince just put that he's like, can you put a hologram on steroids? And it turns out you can. And so he just holi steroid it up the hologram. And then he was like, this is much better than the gender I remember.
00:01:50
Speaker
when you have billions of dollars to put into garbage content, nothing matters. That's the big question, is Triple H gonna push gender? I'm guessing not.
00:02:03
Speaker
Yeah, I don't, okay. So I was
Wrestling Landscape Shifts
00:02:06
Speaker
texting all afternoon with Derek about this. I wish to God Derek could be on the show because Derek basically said after KO's, so this last Monday KO came out and did a promo on Raw where he's the prize fighter again. And Derek said in his living room, he basically ripped his AEW shirt off to reveal a WWE shirt underneath.
00:02:34
Speaker
I was gonna say Derek is a small child and he's finding the time to watch three hours of Monday Night Raw. I don't know if I understand Derek. I'm gonna, it's gonna. He is like, he seems so pumped and scared.
00:02:49
Speaker
I wish he was on here to talk about this, but yeah, he is basically like Tony Khan is in trouble, which for the first time since AEW's existence, he is in a little bit of trouble. It does seem like for the first time the momentum has kind of reversed a little bit and
00:03:07
Speaker
we may be settling into AEW being sort of in a specific place, if WWE is gonna be in a strong place. It has felt like the two things, one was going up and one was going down. I'm trying to make hands, I can't make an arrow gesture, but you can't see that anyway, guys. And now it does feel a little bit like AEW is maybe kind of plateauing and WWE is having a moment where it's going up.
00:03:34
Speaker
And we'll see. I mean, again, I always say I'm not too concerned as long as Tony Khan feels like he's making enough money to continue making AEW. I'm good. I don't need AEW to be number one. I don't need it to like win ratings wars. I just I just want the show to continue existing so that I have something fun to watch on Wednesday nights.
00:03:55
Speaker
Absolutely. Absolutely. Like as long as they keep providing me with the content that has satisfied me so much up until this point, like even when I think it might possibly be a little bad, it ends up entertaining me. So, you know, for at this point for WWE to like get me to actually start tuning in, I'm not gonna
00:04:19
Speaker
watch every Monday in hopes that it's good. No. I'm gonna need a lot of people for a few weeks to be telling me like you are missing banger matches weekly and I don't, I just don't see that happening even though they have three hours to fill where there should be at least one amazing match every week with the people they have there.
00:04:40
Speaker
I don't think we're there yet. Again, I think we're still in that auditing phase of like, okay, things seem like they're getting better. Call me when Cody's back. I'm a Cody guy. I really, I love Cody. It broke my heart a little bit when he left AEW, but now I kind of feel like that was the end of something. And maybe that was a good thing. Cause certainly a certain era in our wrestling lives was ending as it was. And so maybe Cody leaving put sort of a
00:05:06
Speaker
a fine point on that period. And now he's off doing his thing in WWE and seems like he's having a good time. And the little bit that I've watched has been fun. And maybe that's, you know, maybe I'll flip on WWE for the KO matches and the Cody matches on their live premium events. I mean, yeah, that said, like there are plenty of people that I would love to tune in and see what they are doing for that. But as a whole, there is plenty that I could give a fuck less about.
00:05:37
Speaker
Do I want it to be good? I want all the wrestling to be good. I want everybody to be happy and prosperous in their wrestling consumption. And we're going to find time to watch Raw and SmackDown when we're watching seven hours of game changer wrestling over a weekend.
00:05:56
Speaker
which apparently Seth Rollins was at himself.
GCW Highlights and Anecdotes
00:06:00
Speaker
Oh, good for him. GCW was in Atlantic City. He liked the rest of us sometimes. Sweetheart, can you watch The Kid this weekend? I just kind of want to go to some GCW shows. Well, they were both in Atlantic City. That's right. That's right. That meant he got to like pop over and there was him like peeking out behind the curtain. But I also saw that the second one of those shows was over, Lauderdale was in the audience at WWE.
00:06:26
Speaker
I don't really know what's coming on with Brett Lauderdale. At some point, someone's going to write a book in which they describe what Brett Lauderdale's life has been like over the last two years. And I feel like there's going to be a lot of stories. And I just don't really have a good sense of what those would be. But I think there's going to be some weird stories. It's going to be Jimmy Lloyd's book, right?
00:06:52
Speaker
Oh my god. Jimmy Lloyd's gonna dictate his book to someone, and it's gonna be great. He knows where the bodies are buried. Jimmy Lloyd knows everything. If Stephanie McMahon can just steal Jimmy Lloyd, all of GCW's secrets are spilled.
00:07:13
Speaker
Oh, my God. What would he be? And she's in a WWE like he's a suit like Miss Corporate Jimmy Lloyd. I need. He would be like Johnny Ace. That's the thing. He would be like because Johnny Ace, I feel like Jimmy Lloyd had similar ish careers. You know, they had some of the Bella twins. Right. They both had some moments. You know, they're not, you know, big top guys. But I think because I think here's the thing, I think
00:07:42
Speaker
Backstage, Stephanie is like talking and she's like, Jimmy, what's going on back there with those guys? And he's like, I've seen nothing. And she's like, this guy is ready for WWE management. So now every time he comes out, you hear like, you're fucking with a different boy. Or like this hardcore, you're fucking with a different boy song. And now it's me like, you're messing with a stand up guy.
00:08:14
Speaker
Oh, you're messing with a respectable man. OK, he's a respectable man, Jimmy Lloyd. He's he's even he'll he'll he'll give up cigarettes if he has to. I mean, he'll definitely be vaping, but he'll give up those cigarettes. Pro tip, pro tip, guys, if you want to meet Jimmy Lloyd, just go to an AEW show and go to the smoking section. He's there. Every time he's not old enough to smoke.
00:08:41
Speaker
Like, honestly, Jimmy Lloyd might be timeless. That guy could be 40 or 18. I have no idea. Unclear, very unclear how old Jimmy Lloyd would be. But I will say, I enjoyed the shows this weekend, a lot of death matches. Which you know I'm happy about. Yeah, my favorite thing, though, of course, was by far the wedding. It is.
00:09:09
Speaker
Incredible. It's incredible. It was so good. And I felt bad because I see that you're still sipping water in what I can't tell what are you in? Are you in a Burger King in Manhattan this week? I see a lot of a lot of whoppers surrounding you and
00:09:29
Speaker
Just oh, yeah, I'm eating an impossible Whopper and coughing. I stopped. I try. I go. You can't hear me cough on the show because I cough off Mike. But yeah, still still just coughing very aggressively in this in this Burger King. I got them to turn on some wrestling behind me, though. So it's great. They have access at the Burger King. It's surprising. I know. Yeah, this that.
00:09:56
Speaker
that wedding segment was pretty incredible. GCW doesn't give us a lot of just talky segments. For those who may have missed it or may not be aware what we're talking about, Matt Cardona and Chelsea Green renewed their vows at GCW this weekend. Maven officiated, which was incredible. Jimmy Lloyd was the ring bearer.
00:10:24
Speaker
Dark Sheik was the flower girl. A bunch of different people were in the wedding, but of course, sort of most importantly here, Nick Gates showed up.
00:10:37
Speaker
And, uh, he just, just wrecked a wedding in a way that I think, I mean, like people have wrecked wrestling weddings before Nick Gage really wrecked a wrestling wedding in a way that was delightful setting up presumably. Gage Cardona two on the heels of the previous night, GCW setting up mocks versus Gage two. So Nick Gage is back friends. Nick Gage is back.
00:11:04
Speaker
No date set on either of these matches. No mind. When Nick Gage interrupted this wedding, he interrupted about 35 minutes and captivating minutes. Ten minutes of which were maybe maybe more ten or more minutes for Maven doing an opening. And I got to say Maven monologuing.
00:11:28
Speaker
much better than an EC3 monologue to start a show or a second. You wouldn't expect that. You wouldn't. No, I had, I honestly felt like, oh, we're going to have to watch Maven talk. I was like, nope, captivated this guy. Delightful. Yeah, I could have watched it. I could have watched it longer. And, you know, as they're introducing people that you think might interrupt, they bring in Blake Christian, who was heavily thought that he was going to be the person to interrupt this.
00:11:53
Speaker
But no, he kissed him on the cheek. He's a heel now. Ally catch comes in with a present. Nope, not her. Nope, Nick Gage. And most important thing that Nick Gage did to me in this segment. So there's a, you know, it looks like a wrestling wedding. It's got the what I want to
00:12:13
Speaker
Like, not an altar, but... I think of it as a trellis, which is what it is. But I think there's a different, a name they call it for a wedding, but my dad has a trellis. They had a table full of presents, which included a purple bundle of light tubes with a bow on them. And of course, a cake, because... There's always a cake. There's a cake and a wedding. Of course, with action figures on it, because this is a Cardona wedding.
00:12:42
Speaker
Where do you think that sheet cake came from in Atlantic City? Where do you think Lauderdale picked up that sheet cake before the wedding? I think there's a 7-Eleven not too far from there that might depend on sheet cake.
00:12:56
Speaker
He can go. It's hard. There's not a lot of energy, the whale or anything. There's not a lot of places to get like there's not a lot of grocery stores in Atlantic City. So I presume someone that did have to take a little bit like they sent Big Vin out and he did like he had to drove drive for like 10, 15 minutes to find a place to grab something. He was like bar, bar, bar, strip club, bar, bar drunk. Oh, I forgot the cake.
00:13:24
Speaker
Oh, there's... Yeah. Chris, who took that bundle of light tubes? Why that, of course, ended up being Matthew Cardona, the deathmatch king. Matthew Cardona's father. Oh, that's right. Well, no, I think Cardona took one and then Cardona's dad took a bundle as well. Yeah. A bundle of light tubes was... And that's the thing. So here's a question,
Wrestling Weddings and Family Reactions
00:13:50
Speaker
Gary. You're about to be a parent. I already am one.
00:13:54
Speaker
If your child was in professional wrestling and said, dad, I need you to take a bundle of light tubes over the head. Are you doing it? Well, Chris, here's the thing. As you ask me that question, you're fucking with a different boy.
00:14:16
Speaker
I would go in so honestly, if my kid has taken a bundle at GCW, I'm more proud than when he wins the title at WrestleMania. I'm like, you made it to what daddy watches. See, I feel like I, I think I would do it, but I think at first I'd be like, is this going to be a big angle, little one? Is this going to be?
00:14:41
Speaker
Oh, we're main eventing the show? Okay. What, this is setting up, oh, this is setting up you and the other big star in a main event. Sweetheart, I will take the light tubes. If you need me to do it, if you need me to do it, I'll take the light tubes. The only thing that could have added a little bit more is if Mrs. Cardona got a little time with the pizza cutter. I have to say that even if my mother attended my fake wrestle wedding,
00:15:11
Speaker
she would probably be crying at all the swears, scum of the blood. And- Why is this so violent, Carrot? Why is your wedding? My wedding was already weird. There were enough people dressed as wrestlers at my Halloween wedding that I think that was hard enough to handle, let alone pop a calendar getting smashed in the face with glass.
00:15:37
Speaker
My dad would do it for me. My dad would definitely do it. My dad would be like, sure, what if you need some? So I love my dad. So as we talk, not to change subject, because I do want to continue talking about this GCW show. Sure. My main thing right now is I this was the weirdest setup to doing one of these shows.
00:15:58
Speaker
Maybe ever. I have a full plate of food sitting in front of me. You and I both controlled our nutrition this evening. That's correct. And to get prepared for this, I went, not to get prepared, but I went to see Hate Breed, the hardcore band at Ryman Auditorium, which is an old church. It turns out- Beautiful venue. Yeah, beautiful. Honestly- Incredible sound.
00:16:26
Speaker
one of the best venues in the whole country. If you ever see a band that you like is playing there, worth the trip to travel for. I've only been to the Ryman once and it was on a tour. And while I was on that tour, Jack Johnson was sound checking. And that was fucking beautiful. Not because it's the Ryman. I was like crying at Jack Johnson sound checking the harder they come. It's that amazing a room, guys.
00:16:52
Speaker
It truly is. You're sitting in the original church pews. They've got the original stained glass. It's just, it's one of the few venues in the country that like the history is preserved. You can feel, you know, you can look at that stage and be like, holy shit, Johnny Cash played on that stage. Elvis played on it. You know, everybody played on that stage. Tonight, Hate Breed became the first band from the hardcore scene to ever grace the stage. And they understood how weird that was.
00:17:22
Speaker
They're like, all day we thought everybody was gonna be like, you can't play here. And they said, even up until five minutes, we thought they were gonna be like, actually, we've changed our minds, you're not allowed on this stage, but they did. Weirdest thing, also, I had a whole row to myself. It was not a heavily attended show. Yeah, they were the opener for Black Label Society and the 40th anniversary tour of Anthrax.
00:17:51
Speaker
But yeah, there's no pit. So it is completely seated in church pews, I mind you. And downstairs, there's some real security guards. Upstairs, it's more like, you ever been to a museum and seen like the docents? Sure. Just like the old people taking care of the museum? Yeah. The lady policing my section, maybe 75 years old.
00:18:18
Speaker
Hanging out with a bunch of devil worshipers. And she has to go down the rows and tell all the like 50 year old men with head tattoos to please stay out of the aisle.
00:18:31
Speaker
And this is just like last night Vince Gill was there or you know, like somebody, this is above her pay grade. She shouldn't have to deal with this, but it was nice. It was beautiful. I had a great time, rushed back and kind of fell into my own MasterChef challenge, if you will. I was speed cooking and basically in my mind the whole time, I kind of had like,
00:19:00
Speaker
Marty Skurl calling me a numpty and saying that's not enough seasoning. That's too much seasoning. But I've got a plate of food in front of me. I like that the very specific you're imagining here is that it's the villain as well, I guess makes sense because there's always a villain on these chef shows, but he's the one yelling at you about this. But what British wrestler is Gordon Ramsay to you?
00:19:31
Speaker
Oh, uh, William Regal. Oh, that would have bit me. Yeah. Yeah. I picked a sex pervert. It's fine. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Um, yeah, I, I sped through making a plate of cod steak. Cod, of course, the, the rock's favorite fish. Really? I didn't, is that in his book? He has a cod farm.
00:19:57
Speaker
The Rock eats so much, have you ever seen the thing about The Rock's diet? The Rock eats so much cod, he bought a cod farm. Just to supply himself, basically. I don't even know what to say to that. Like, where does The Rock live? He lives in California and has a cod farm there? Or Florida, I don't know. Somewhere in one of those places, he has a cod farm. What a fucking honor for a fish. Yeah. To be...
00:20:26
Speaker
you know, bred to just be eaten by a worldwide celebrity. My assumption is that the fish talk to each other. They know what's going on in the rocks life. And they're like, he's going to eat me and then film a Fast and Furious movie. I'm very excited for this. I might get to I might get to meet Jason Statham while I'm out there.
00:20:48
Speaker
You know, at least is going to get to meet a whole bunch of Terra Mana inside the belly before he gets shit out into rocks, golden toilet. But also, so you have you have. So again, we talked about this last week, but just to remind our listeners, in case they may have forgotten,
Wrestling-Themed Seasonings and Community
00:21:05
Speaker
we both purchased control your nutrition spices from the dude's gourmet via so through for EC3 and our friends brought a control your narrative.
00:21:18
Speaker
And again, really on the recommendation of Dutch from ROA, she said they're great spices. You got to get them. So we did this. Um, I got two steaks. So I got the two beef spices. I got the regular control your nutrition beef and I got Braun Strowman's, uh, beef King.
00:21:37
Speaker
And I went to a butcher store in my neighborhood called the Old Fashioned Butcher Shop because I felt that was appropriate for this. There's no flips at the Old Fashioned Butcher Shop. There's no five super kicks.
00:21:50
Speaker
You know, no one's kicking out of finishers at the old fashioned butcher shop. You just roll in there. You look around and not for too long. They don't want you like overthinking this. They're like, tell me what meat you want. We will cut it for you. Here you go. Very simple exchange. The butcher monologues at you the whole time. It's Brutus Beefcake's place. He's been doing it ever since he called himself the butcher in the mid 90s. He set up this little place. Hogan bankrolled him.
00:22:20
Speaker
But he's great. Hogan wishes he could get that money back. But Hulk started pasta mania. The butcher started the old fashioned butcher shop. And it's going great. It's going great. So I so I set up two filet mignons on the grill. And
00:22:40
Speaker
I cook the cook the crap out of him. You know, it's kind of he seared him at the end. I think I told I was telling you, Garrett, I think my I think I ran out of propane in mid mid grill. I was going to say, like, you are. You're a grill boy. I like grilling. I'm you know, I'm in my late 30s and I was told once that you either got to get into barbecuing or the or Civil War books. And I read way too much about wrestling and the Grateful Dead to get into Civil War books. So I went with the barbecue.
00:23:10
Speaker
Wait, so what age did you hit where it was one or the other? Because I know I'm coming up. I think you're a little older than me. I think it's somewhere in your late 30s. I think it's kind of when you have a kid. I think it's time for you to make this determination, Garrett. I think you've either got to get into some like weird history stuff or you've got to get yourself a grill and just start. And here's here's the advantage, though, of the grill thing is that
00:23:35
Speaker
You know, you're going to have you're going to be kid, you're going to have birthday parties and stuff like that. It's going to be kind of chaos. And I never understood the lure and benefit of the grill until that moment where there were a bunch of children screaming. And I was like, sorry, I'll be over here making the hot dogs. Yeah, I. It's nice. Yeah, it's nice. Kind of a.
00:24:00
Speaker
One of the dads joins you with a beer. A couple of the dads maybe join you with a beer. You put on some music. You grill some hot dogs. Maybe you make a steak or two just for shits and giggles. You keep it simple. You know, it's nice. It's nice. And again, those Civil War books are not that interesting. Who gives a fucking shit? Can I get into other history? Like, does it specifically have to be like musk at times? You know, that's what people say. But I think it's got to be something kind of old and weird. It's got to be something that
00:24:30
Speaker
Anyone younger than you will be like, that's real fucking boring, grandpa. And you're like, I'm not a grandpa yet. And it's like you basically, you're ready to be a grandpa now. Well, I mean, I've got a grill, but I don't have a gas grill. We, I went charcoal problem is now you have to go down. You have to get the thing hot. I'm like walking up and down. It's annoying. I've got a cast iron and a stove and it takes me half the time.
00:24:58
Speaker
I think, I think you go with the gas grill. You got, you got time before you're gonna have to barbecue. You got time to figure this out. Either that, or you just find some weird history to get into.
00:25:06
Speaker
This sucks, cause I don't want to, did you want one or the other? Like obviously you chose grill, but it also seems like you like where you ended up with it. I like, I mean, I always kind of liked me. I have a super bowl party every year. I always make like a pulled pork for that. I kind of liked it. Yeah. I was like, okay, I can, I can get slightly more serious about this as I get older. Not that serious.
00:25:32
Speaker
which conveniently now you are adding to your spice cabinet. Exactly. Well, in the nice event sometimes we grilled, this is before in between podcasts, but before the last GCW show in New York, which was like 10 minutes from my house, we grilled up a tomahawk steak.
00:25:51
Speaker
at the urging of Brody King, cause he loves a good Tomahawk steak. Um, and, uh, and we ate that and drank some whiskey and then we went to GCW and it was a delightful experience. You could have pre that maybe that's how you get Nick Gage to come over to your house. Garrett, you say, Nick, I'm going to grill you some meat before the show. I'm going to grill all the boys. I mean, well, not, maybe not all of them, but at least you and Jimmy Lloyd, I will make some steaks for you.
00:26:16
Speaker
I say all the boys and then think realistically who's coming to my house. And I'm like, I don't want, I don't even want to mention them on here. Cause I don't want to, I don't want to get heat with GCW. Cause then I got heat with, you know, you got heat with GCW. You got heat with Stephanie McMahon. It's true. You don't want to see what's happening with men, but so yeah, I, so we, let's talk about it. So I, I grilled up these steaks. Um, gotta tell you winner in the house.
00:26:43
Speaker
was the Beef King. The regular control your narrative beef spice was kind of like it was like a chili spice. It was solid. Not a not a high recommendation, but also not a negative. But the Beef King, which let's be clear was basically high end salt and pepper.
00:27:01
Speaker
But really good. Really it's salt, like there's three ingredients on the list. Salt, pepper, garlic, that's the whole thing. But it was really delightful. My wife was like, what is this? This is terrific. I was like, this is Braun Strowman's meat spices. And she was like, this is really good. I want to have more of Braun Strowman's meat spices.
00:27:25
Speaker
So and I do too. I think I'm going to regularly be cooking with Braun Strowman's meat spices. This is I can't believe I'm saying this because, again, you guys have listened to the podcast. I was ready to have jokes about how bad this stuff was. Honestly, kind of great. So.
00:27:45
Speaker
As, Leah, when I get home, my nine month pregnant wife is asleep in the bed. I'm like clanging and banging in the kitchen. And I- She's like, why are you cooking? I'm like, it's a bit sweetheart. Like I'm cooking like insane. Where it's like, I'm cooking three different things at once. I'm like yelling at the cat because it's trying to get some of it. I'm like, I'm cursing because things aren't going my way. You've got an invisible British man yelling at you.
00:28:12
Speaker
I'm getting called a fucking numpty over here by a sex predator. I got a lot going on. And I just also losing my voice a little bit, little deaf from the screaming at the rhyming. It makes sense. So it's been a busy night. It's just one thing straight into the other. But
00:28:31
Speaker
is I get a plate of it done. I just like, I'm in a rush. I basically just walked into the bedroom and just drop a plate packed with food. So steak.
00:28:44
Speaker
It's a petite sirloin, I got it from the Kroger Meat Department, like the guy behind the counter, you know? Because I knew I was doing the fish, so I didn't want to do like a big steak. I got the cod, and then I cut up some onions, some green sweet peppers, and some zucchini, and you know, poured a little olive oil on it, like got that going in the cast iron and seasoned it up with the control your nutrition veggie seasoning.
00:29:12
Speaker
And I dropped this on the bed in front of her and I'm like, still getting mine ready. I'm getting the show set up. I hadn't gotten to eat any of this. And from the other room, I hear, hey, do you want to know how this was? She's like, I think she thought she was coming on the show, which I felt a little bad that I was like, no, you aren't. But it's just because of the microphone situation. Not if you're hearing this, you're welcome. It's just, you know, we.
00:29:41
Speaker
Yeah, it's just it's just Garrett's microphone situation. Well, because then I'd have to like set up. It's a whole thing. We're using a program now. It's true. But she's like, OK, well, I want to tell you this. The beef seasoning was fine.
00:29:58
Speaker
She said the fish seasoning and the veggie seasoning were so fucking good that she's excited to use them both again. She said that she doesn't ever, she's like, we've got enough good meat spices in the pantry that she's never reaching for control your nutrition beef again. But she said next time she cooks fish,
00:30:22
Speaker
control your nutrition, fish seasoning, 100% is going on the fish. Wow. Yeah. I mean, I, I gotta say it's really, it's great stuff. And really the thing with the beef seasoning is I think, I actually think it's got a specific use because it's, again, it's that chili spice. I think if you were doing kind of like a Southwest steak thing, I think you might reach for that, but that's, it's more of a specific use kind of thing.
00:30:46
Speaker
But the, I mean the brawn thing, I gotta tell you, it's just very basic. And I will say next time, I might use it next time I do a Tomahawk steak because Brody King always posts about it. I messaged him on Instagram. I said, what do you put on it? He says, just salt and pepper.
00:31:02
Speaker
just salt and pepper and grill it, buddy. And he was right. But I think the salt and pepper, the Braun, I think the Braun Beef King seasoning might be like an extra delightful sort of salt and pepper to do, um, to do a nice Tomahawk steak with. So.
00:31:19
Speaker
Honestly, like what you said was in it because a lot of these other ones do have a lot of other ingredients, like way too many ingredients. And like the other day we were cooking some salmon, which I don't know if this would have even been good on salmon. I'm not sure, but.
00:31:35
Speaker
When I handed it to Leah, she's like, I'm not putting this on good food. Like, what is she's like, what is in this? The first ingredient is nutmeg. And she's like, absolutely fucking not. I'm not pouring nutmeg all over my fish. And now she wants to pour nutmeg all over her fucking fish. EC3, you clever bastard. These guys, man, I.
00:31:57
Speaker
It's impressive. This kind of makes me want to watch the second control your narrative now. I wonder if I'm going to see it through different light if I watch it while eating a steak covered in the seasoning. I think you were onto something, I think it was last week. We have to get Brian Cage on this show.
00:32:16
Speaker
and get him to season his chicken with this and see if like, if it, if he's happy with it, you know, maybe he has, I mean, he's got to be friends with some of those guys. I kind of want to just ask. I got to ask the guy. I want to ask some wrestlers, like guys, do you know Brian cage? And if so, I have a very specific question. Do you know if he seasons his chicken and has he used control your nutrition?
00:32:43
Speaker
Because so I, I posted the picture of that, that I had just controlled my nutrition prior to getting on here. I will post some pictures too, by the way. I haven't done it yet, but by the time you're hearing this, I'll make sure there's some pictures up. Do a little photo shoot with them and send them because I'll do one. I got an EC3 8x10 autographed. I got I didn't.
00:33:05
Speaker
Well, I got the four pack, which I thought was gonna come in a nice little box, you know, like a little, not like a collector's box, but you know, something, they were all dropped in an envelope and like a beat up eight by 10 of EC3. But you know, I didn't know that was coming. So who cares if it's a little beat up. That's a good memory.
00:33:26
Speaker
But when I posted that, a lot of people sent laugh emojis to me. Like, like this was going to be a joke seasoning. And as I'm sitting here eating, I tend to I do agree with Leah that the fish and the veggies
00:33:43
Speaker
or hitting my palate a little better. I'm not tasting a shit ton of nutmeg for it being the first ingredient, but even the steak seasoning, I agree, it does have a little more of a chili powder taste to it.
00:33:59
Speaker
Not not terrible. Like I would try it on other meat. Like if in a pinch, this is great. This is fine. I think. Yeah, I think we all thought, look, our listeners, I'm with you again. I don't I don't think any of us thought to ourselves these weren't going to be jokes, but this turned out to be an enlightening experience. I don't know what else to say.
00:34:21
Speaker
It was delicious. My steak was delicious. Again, my wife, we finished like, we're not huge steak eaters. We were polishing off steak. We're like, this is terrific. I kind of wish I'd used, I used, I had a bigger, one of them was bigger than the other. And I kind of wish I'd used the brawn on the bigger one. Um,
00:34:39
Speaker
But I, you know, that was a mistake. That was just my mistake next time. Next time I'll go to the old fashioned butcher shop and I'll just, whatever I get there, I'm just covering it in bronze and bronze seasoning. It was funny. We were supposed to record last night, but it was Chris's wife's birthday. Right. He said that on his wife's birthday, he refuses to subject his wife to Braun Strowman seasoning. Now it sounds like
00:35:05
Speaker
Happy birthday, Cindy. Turns out this is, I mean, last night's dinner was good, but I think this was the birthday dinner, essentially. This was, oh, you got me a nice steak and you seasoned it so well and grilled it for me? With this beautiful seasoning, that's love. Thank you, Braun Strowman, for helping me show love to my wife.
00:35:28
Speaker
Like, listen, EC3, my wife said as she was eating this, she felt the feminism sucking out of her body. So I don't know if, maybe that's a compliment, maybe that's a five-star review for you. But either way, I was ready to make funnier seasonings, bud, and I gotta take it back. I am sorry, send me more. These might end up being gifts in somebody's stockings this year.
00:35:56
Speaker
Look, we, we've discussed this. We will shill for a lot of things. We will definitely show for control your nutrition guys. Um, the face, if you go to the, if you go to the website and you see the face that, that Flip Gordon is making, you might think to yourself, that's really over the top. He's like, Ooh, yeah. And you're like, that's too much. Flip is right. Trust the flip face by the seasonings.
00:36:23
Speaker
Next time you're having people over for wrestling, just grill up some fish or some chicken or some beef.
00:36:29
Speaker
you know, and enjoy it with your friends. You know, this is about, this is about sharing and, cause again, this whole podcast, it's really, it's about community. You know what I mean? It's all about watching wrestling together and enjoying it. And you know, food can be part of that. You might just want to grill up a nice steak for your friends to enjoy while you're, while you're watching a GCW show or something. I don't know. It's just, I don't know if I'm sad that this didn't go more poorly.
00:36:57
Speaker
Or if, like, I'm happy I got a good seasoning out of this bit, because, you know, like, it's not going to go unused. It obviously like it. I still have a chicken one that I haven't used yet, which excited to try. Yeah, I mean, I've just added at least two good spices to the cabinet. Yeah, I mean, look, we've got a lot of friends who haven't tried it yet, though. I mean, could we
00:37:24
Speaker
I don't know. I got to, I got to, I got to make some, we got to set some, set up for facts here at some point. We grill a steak every now and then, you know? And listen, folks, before you go out and buy this seasoning on your own, because we are not sponsored by dude nutrition or whatever this is called. Um, we need to get a promo code where it's like use offer code predetermined and save 10% at checkout or something. You know, I, we need a little kickback on this before you're buying this shit.
00:37:54
Speaker
Yeah, we'll DM them tonight. I'd be like, you guys sold at least five cases. That's pretty good. I think it's going to happen. I think it's going to happen. I don't think this is out of our reach. No, no, I don't think so either.
00:38:20
Speaker
We're not that far from being the official podcast of Control Your Narrative Garrett. We're at least gonna be the official podcast of Control Your Nutrition. Maybe that's what we want. We wanna be the official podcast of Control Your Nutrition. Do our politics line up with those guys? Not necessarily, but mine don't line up with Amazon either, but I ordered some shit from there the other day. No one's perfect. You know what brings people across political lines?
00:38:50
Speaker
A great dinner. A great dinner. Maybe control your nutrition is how we break down political barriers in this country because we share a great meal together. And that's how we, you know, maybe with control your nutrition, everyone goes, damn, that's delicious. We both agree on that. Maybe we can find a couple of other things to agree on.
00:39:16
Speaker
Just saying. This is truly gonna end with EC3 on the podcast and us be like, hey man, you made a good season. I actually wanna talk to him and be like, what kind of, like I know it seemed like Stone Cold put in a ton of work on that IPA, or at least tried a lot of things. How many different blends did you try before you said, this is EC3 season? Yeah, how long has he been into seasoning?
00:39:41
Speaker
Um, like what got him into it? Like what's, you know, how many different blends does he have? Um, what got Braun, you know, you know, why, why these specific things? I mean, bronze had a note, something about how like, uh, the extra sodium is like good for your muscles after a workout or something, which I did not. Let's be clear. I, I worked from home today. Um, at one point I walked to the dry cleaner and that was basically all the working out I did today. So I'm not following whatever that is. Um,
00:40:11
Speaker
I did stand while I barbecued. That was good. That's good for me, right? Yeah. I mean, yeah, my watch gives me points for standing, you know? Good job, bud. You did it for a little bit. We're all, look, with a little bit of control your nutrition and some working out, we're all going to get into Nick Gade's shape.
00:40:33
Speaker
Basically. Right. Hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Gage looking good on TV. Gage is Gage is looking good. We were talking about this while we were watching. Right. Like Gage. So again, we've been watching a lot of Appalachian Championship Wrestling. All both of us.
00:40:49
Speaker
And you dig through there. And what you'll find is a lot of up and coming guys, a lot of indie talents, but also you'll find a lot of ECW guys having matches in which they kind of like walk around for like two minutes and kind of punch each other. And like, there's one chair shot and they pin each other and last like under five minutes. And it's not great. Um, we all love these guys. They all did so many exciting things for us.
00:41:14
Speaker
you know, 20 years ago, but now is not their time. And I was kind of worried that Gage was in, you know, Appalachian championship wrestling, ECW nostalgia mass shape. Uh, but, and then look, if that was where he was, that would have been okay. We all love Nick Gage. Body breaks down. He's certainly given a lot to all of us. Um, he's given blessings to Garrett's child, but he seems.
00:41:41
Speaker
Like he is fucking back and ready to go and has at least one more great run in him because he looks like he's in great shape. He hasn't had a match yet. I'm excited to see it though. Well, so what you described with the ECW guys and, you know, like not being in such great shape, taking the chair shot, taking the pen. That's what we call a West Virginia five star.
00:42:03
Speaker
I just, I need that to be known. You know, that in West Virginia, we love that. That's our, that's our boys. That's our moves. We love it. But no, Nick Gage this weekend.
00:42:15
Speaker
I mean, it's good. Honestly, two pretty good shows. Like, especially Night One, some really great shit. Like, the entire second half of that show was just like, banger, banger, banger, banger. Like, did not slow down. To be clear, though, the second half of Night One, I think your enjoyment will, goes up the more comfortable you are with stabbing. Well,
00:42:40
Speaker
Okay, you're fucking with a different boy, Chris. Do you consider, this isn't to Chris, this is to the listeners, if you consider yourself a different boy?
00:42:52
Speaker
This is for you. Do you like seeing a man and a lady bleed on each other? Is that your thing? This is for you. God, that cologne Rita match. There is a, I know like we're kind of hopping all over the place. There's a spot in that match though where she is like,
00:43:10
Speaker
I don't know what like kind of in the Jesus pose with a light tube behind her arms and Cologne just knees her in the face so hard what appears to be so hard and that light tube explodes it was
00:43:24
Speaker
It was something to behold. I mean, that was a 21 minute death match. No, those guys, they weren't pretty necessary, although I would actually say the most in terms of like disturbing images. And again, in later matches on the show, people were using knives on each other. Cole Radricks pants. Oh, my God.
00:43:49
Speaker
Cole Radrick was wearing, so, you know how in the early 2000s, no, this was night one. Night one was, he was using this, he, in early 2000s, people were in these like big, very oversized pants. Cole Radrick was wearing them just so big. They were like pooling at his ankles that he was, he had to like pull them up to walk. They were like an aqua color.
00:44:17
Speaker
Like it looked like something, like it looked like Gwen Stefani would have matched her hair to these pants in 1997. Great, great description. Yeah, these were tragic Kingdom pants, like this was, yeah. Yeah, this was, so, and he walks out, takes his shirt off,
00:44:36
Speaker
and then, uh, beats the ever loving shit out of Charlie Evans in a way that felt, he just felt, how do I put this? Just a little too comfortable with it. Um, he drinks a monster energy drink. And then, you know, he really needed the wife beater t-shirt to really complete the CZW 2002 look. Like I really wonder, like, I really wonder if like the Briscoes walked past him and like did a double take and were like,
00:45:04
Speaker
Am I in Elks Lodge in Delaware in 2001 right
GCW's Role During the Pandemic
00:45:08
Speaker
now? Or what the fuck? Fun guy wrestled with this guy. Are you wife beaters kid? Like what? I did find out from our buddy Tag. I guess he saw somewhere online, I don't wanna ruin this bit because they are absolutely terrible pants, that it was some sort of tribute to Sick Nick Mondo.
00:45:33
Speaker
OK, so OK, but didn't sick Nick wear bad ill fit pants? So sick Nick wore big pants, but again, they did not. They were not nearly that big, nor were they that aqua. He wore like blue pants. They were. I mean, they were big. They were not small. This was 2001. They were big pants.
00:45:55
Speaker
Were they on those pants? He like he purchased them on like a GCW sale or I don't know. I don't know. Maybe Nick was wearing the pants at some point. But one that's interesting because we talked about this like Cole Radrick like Cole Radrick was moving down the card like there were he was kind of doing that young up and coming pretty boy spot. And then GCW found a lot prettier boys to be up and comers like
00:46:22
Speaker
You're like Nick Wayne and Starboy Charlie, even Yoya. And I feel like they were like, look, Cole, not really a spot for you at this point, but you willing to get hit with light tubes? And he was like, fuck, yeah, I am. Yeah, it really sucks that that's kind of the business because there are some wrestlers that, you know, just. They they, you know, they they could look a little little handsome. You know, they need a little more.
00:46:51
Speaker
I don't even, I don't want to be mean to him, but like, yeah, the prettier you are, the higher up the card you are. Well, no, just spot. Like, well, cause you've got to be the prettiest boy in the room. Like Ricky Morton was never like the most handsome guy, but he was the prettiest boy in a room in like Tulsa in 1985.
00:47:11
Speaker
Well, you're basically saying that Cole Radrick was the prettiest boy in the room during this two year COVID era GCW, where like now we're in, I mean, I don't want to say post COVID, but we're in a time when GCW can travel. I'll be put in a couple of days tops, don't worry.
00:47:35
Speaker
No, I mean, look, I look, I don't I don't claim to know the the hearts and minds of like 20 year old girls, but I kind of get the sense that they're picking Nick Wayne over Cole Radrick or they're picking Marcus Mathers.
00:47:54
Speaker
over Cole Radrick. Marcus Maddox has got that nice mop of hair. I don't know. That's pretty boy good looks. Everett Connors. Right? No, he's Everett Connors got a certain, he's definitely not hooked. Oh dear. Oh dear. Cole Radrick is not hooked.
00:48:12
Speaker
Like, yeah, I just, I do feel bad for the guy because he was really there for us when we needed him. Like, honestly, GCW got me through the worst part of the pandemic. You know, was it questionable? But they were, you know, they were in Indiana, they were in a park, it was outdoors. They were putting on great matches and they were, they were giving me something I needed at the time. They were giving me that little- There's allegations about the testing, but they've never been proven.
00:48:39
Speaker
Yeah, you can't prove it. Control your fucking narrative. They did. They control the nutrition. They should use off the code speed and term for numbers and off a checkout. Don't use the code yet, guys. We'll get it for you. Don't worry. Give us like two week stops. Dude seasoning. We're going to get this worked out. It's you know, they I found because I found somebody's code to use to get 10 percent off. I didn't know who they were. It's Google.
00:49:09
Speaker
Don't Google. Don't you fucking Google yet. You wait. No, that, um, yeah, those pants though, those were really the topic of conversation beyond the Cole Radrick match. Like those kind of, those stuck in my memory for the whole weekend. I'm going to be thinking about those pants for years. Would you wear them if I found them for you?
00:49:33
Speaker
Yeah, I'll wear pretty much anything. So if you like, if as a bit, you were like, Chris, you're going to wear these pants to a GCW show and try to find Cole Radrick and just be like, Hey buddy, how's it going? And like, don't talk about the pants. Just be like, yeah, I'm just, this is what I wear. How's it going? Um, I will do that. I wouldn't do it in college. I once wore silver vinyl pants.
00:49:56
Speaker
that I found at a store in Flushing to like some party, just cause it seemed fun and different. Um, and, uh, I got to say, cause people used to, some guys just like wrestled in those like vinyl pants, like the backseat boys like wrestled in like vinyl pants. And I don't know how they did it. Cause just kind of like walking around, it gets swampy down there.
00:50:19
Speaker
Yeah. And to have to do, I mean, even 10 minutes of work in those. Yeah. Like they do not breathe. Those are not, you know, it's not breathable attire. So what's your ideal, uh, wrestle attire for you? Like if you were to go in the ring right now, like what word would you be grabbing?
00:50:40
Speaker
See this, I told you, a Shane Douglas guy, I think I'm going like trunks, like two colors, you know, maybe like green and white, green and yellow or something, you know, trunks with something on the back, some knee pads, some like classic boots, and probably, look, probably some tassels. Couple tassels coming out of the boots. You know, tassels win those cheers, and those cheers sell those t-shirts.
00:51:06
Speaker
Exactly. Exactly. Tassels flying, you know, maybe I got tassels on my arms too. Maybe if the biceps are, maybe it ties off the biceps, makes them look a little bigger. I don't know. Just saying.
00:51:17
Speaker
I wish I could pull off tassels, I'll be honest. I think if I'm reaching for clothes, I've got some body issues, Chris. Especially like the last year, I've gained quite a bit of weight. I'm gonna be in more of a Kevin Owens situation. I'm gonna be in some baggy basketball shorts and a shirt that in my mind makes me look thinner, but doesn't do me any favors.
00:51:43
Speaker
I think you accentuate, I think you have fun with it. I have been on stage in body suits. Once you're sucked into one of those things, it really does make you feel like, whatever, let's just go for it. You lose any sense of shame or concern about your body when you just put a body suit on. You're just like, I'm just going to have to accept this. I am what I am.
00:52:07
Speaker
Although, to be fair, when I wrestled when I went in an extremely serious wrestling, which, of course, you can see on independent wrestling TV, go subscribe there. I was in a T-shirt only because I had a thing that said number one. I got my character was the ultimate father. So you were pre Dan, the dad.
00:52:30
Speaker
I think it was pre Dan the dad. I think Dan the dad, um, I'm not going to say he stole it from me, but you know, he was probably watching IWTV one night and thought to himself, I can be that too. I'm a dad, you know, and he just, he just leaned in. It's a, I always say it's a great character because, uh, dad, a dad is a natural tweener.
00:52:53
Speaker
Take FTR. Exactly right. You could be a babyface one week about being a dad next week. You could definitely be an asshole dad and be. You know how many times have all of our fathers flipped back and forth babyface heal in our lives, you know?
00:53:10
Speaker
The second that belt comes out, he'll move. He'll move. Well, I would actually say I did. I always wore a belt just for that moment of being able to pull the belt out. And on a comedy wrestling show, that always got a very serious reaction. People were like, oh, no.
00:53:27
Speaker
That's because it brings back memories, even if you didn't have it happen to yourself. I mean, Nightmare on Elm Street 6, Alice Cooper is Freddy Krueger's father. You see him pull his belt off to discipline young Frederick. It's just, you know, it's ingrained in our minds. It's true, it's true. I can say I've been in battle royals with Orange Cassidy. Have you really? Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:53
Speaker
We didn't have a spot. I don't think we had a spot together in that one. I've done some stuff with other indie wrestlers, but not. But Orange is by far the most famous excess W alum. Go go watch some of those. He's he's tremendous, of course. I mean, is that still going there? You know, we there's actually one in the can that hasn't been done, but we got to bring it. We should bring it back soon. I don't know. We hasn't been.
00:54:18
Speaker
We haven't done one in a bit. Some of the guys from, and gals from XSW are doing, uh, working Indies right now. If you go to like, watch wrestlers lab on IWTV, um, or some of the other, um, can't believe Prague, some of them are on sassy boat, right. Um, and, and Dan, the goddamn candy man, uh, are both XSW alums and are terrific and they're ripping it up and they're super fun. Um,
00:54:42
Speaker
So go go check out those shows. If you're I mean, again, to be clear, I mean, after you've watched all the Beastman matches like once you.
00:54:52
Speaker
If we looked at IWTV, do we have access to beast man on there? So I've tried, there's a lot of people with beast, like it's hard to search beast man on there. I think there are a lot of, yeah, there's, yeah, there's a lot of beasts. It's just, it's hard. There's another guy named the beast or beast something it's tricky. So I don't know if any of them are him. So I've mostly been relying on the YouTubes. Um, YouTube keeps feeding me more beast man matches.
00:55:20
Speaker
you are gonna have such a hot two weekends in a row of all out followed by Beastman versus Janela, which we had a lot of all out discussion over the weekend. And I do need to apologize to you. My wife said that I was too mean. She overheard some of our conversations and I was trying to peer pressure you and to stain at a terrible hotel. And by hotel, I mean motel.
00:55:50
Speaker
for our enjoyment, and I apologize. If I were listening to the show, would I want you to stay there? Yes, but I'm sorry. Thank you for that sincere apology, Garrett. Again, for the listener's benefit, because some of you are listening to this conversation that we're having right now.
00:56:14
Speaker
This isn't just you and I haven't run on a Tuesday night. Last year. Yeah, we do it anyway. But last year during all out weekend now. So for those of you who haven't been. Obviously, the the now arena is in Shamburg. That's where the AEW shows happen and the GCW shows.
00:56:33
Speaker
happen at a place in a neighborhood called Hoffman Estates right nearby. And they happen at a place called the Grand Sports Arena, which as you're trying to get that in your mind, don't think of something that's grand or sports arena. I mean, there's sports there. Think of like a totally fine sports place. Think of
00:57:01
Speaker
Think of a place that when you went to play basketball, when you were in the fifth grade, it probably happened at the grand sports arena. Right. We watched death match war games where on Monday, like eight year olds played a very mediocre game of soccer. Right. So, but over there, there's a bunch of chain hotels.
00:57:24
Speaker
Um, which are basically walking, it's kind of delightful cause they're all kind of walking distance to the show. And last year, Derek stayed in a red roof in, in a room where. Look, had a murder definitely happened there. Hard to tell. It definitely gave off the vibe though, that murders had occurred there. Um, but did he have.
00:57:48
Speaker
Did he pay 50 bucks a night and have a parking spot with a three-minute walk from the grand sports arena? He did. He did. Look, was he in a room that it felt like Cole Radrick had deathmatch wrestled a woman in? Yes. Cole Radrick actually may have made those pants out of a red roof and bed sheet.
00:58:12
Speaker
They did not notice it was gone. I was looking at while we were watching the show, I was trying to figure out where I'm going to stay that weekend. Garrett was like, you should stay there. And I was like, no.
00:58:25
Speaker
I have far too much self-respect to do that, Garrett. While this would admittedly be funny, and it is still the cheapest option, it's honestly not that much cheaper than several other hotels in the neighborhood, which, I mean, they're not the most amazing hotels, but they look much less like you're going to get murdered.
Event Accommodations and Food Adventures
00:58:47
Speaker
But see, I think he found a place that was actually even cheaper. And the only difference is it was across the street. So he would have to jaywalk.
00:58:57
Speaker
to get to the grand sports arena. He gets to save three whole dollars in the room. A fucking wild card. It could be anything in there. There could be treats. You don't know what the amenities are. They aren't listed. It's not because there aren't any. You just don't know. It's a secret. It's a secret.
00:59:24
Speaker
Hey, I don't know if anyone's joining me for Deathmatch War Games. So if anyone wants to come say hi and hang out during Deathmatch War Games, feel free. I'll be there. I bet Lowell and Matt will be there. I have a feeling they'll be in town for the show the next night and you should go hang with our friends up north. I'll buy them a taco.
00:59:48
Speaker
Do they have tacos at the Grand Sports Arena? They have tacos at the Grand Sports Arena. That's the thing. In this place that's in the middle of nowhere outside Chicago, there's a little old lady in the center making tacos. And one of them that I had last year
01:00:04
Speaker
Now, because I ordered it and they were like, do you mind if it's spicy? And I was thinking, I'm thinking why I'm in the middle of like outside Chicago. You're thinking Midwest spicy. Yeah. I'm literally the nearest restaurant is an IHOP. Like I'm figuring, OK, yeah, I'm from New York. I like spicy food. Let's do this.
01:00:22
Speaker
I like couldn't feel my tongue for a solid 15 minutes after I took a bite of this thing. This woman is churning out insane. Again, where kids are definitely playing soccer. She's just churning out insanely spicy tacos. It's incredible. I love her.
01:00:40
Speaker
is somebody who grew up in the Midwest, this is not a Midwest thing. And also, she's given a room of 5,000 plus people tacos in a place where there's one fucking toilet for everybody to use. One, one toilet. She's evil, and I kinda like her. You know how I was saying, I was kinda telling- She's Nick Gage's kinda lady. I was telling-
01:01:09
Speaker
I was telling Chris over the weekend that Sawyer Wreck was on night two fighting Rita for the the the hardcore title or great match another great match awesome match oh god like a DVD into the to a web of barbed wire it was brutal
01:01:29
Speaker
I love Sawyer Wreck. In my mind, she's my deathmatch girlfriend. She doesn't know this, but I got a little deathmatch crush on her. She's so tall, she's like Elizabeth Vicky and she's cute as a button. Love you, Sawyer Wreck. But I think this taco lady might be my new deathmatch girlfriend. I'll send my love to her, Garrett, for you.
01:01:53
Speaker
I'm so sad that I don't get to be with you guys with this. And that deathmatch war games, like they've officially posted all the teams participating.
Deathmatch War Games Setup
01:02:02
Speaker
It's a five tag team war games match, which is interesting. Because we were talking about that, you know, that they announced they were going to do war games again. It was hard to see what two teams really were set up. And they just avoided that by saying, no, instead of having two teams, we're going to have five tag teams because
01:02:21
Speaker
I think the most heat in GCW really has been around a tag team division this year. So hey, that's, that's how we're going to do death match war games. It's the Briscoes against Boosie against the second gear crew against, um, Oh, John Wayne Murdoch and Alex Cologne and against two wrestlers. Oh, what's that? What's that? They're the mega bastards.
01:02:45
Speaker
Great, tremendous, I'll buy that T-shirt. I 100% love those two, like maybe the top two guys in death match wrestling right now. And against two guys, we really have to learn how to say their tag team name, because I just keep calling them the Mexicans, and I feel bad about this, but, which-
01:03:02
Speaker
Los Massisos? Is that right? Is that close-ish? Los Massisos. Massisos. Yes. Massisos. There we go. Cclopay's got a great t-shirt, which is just his face, just blown up huge. It's amazing. And it is double-checked. It is the Cclopay from the 90s. Same guy? That's what I was told. I checked you. I was talking to a guy. I was talking to a guy, yes, at one of these shows. I'm like, at the same fucking Cclopay? He's like, yeah, apparently.
01:03:32
Speaker
I'm gonna double check on that. This guy looks like he could be in his mid-20s. I mean, I don't know. Yeah, those two shows, do you have any other standout matches? I guess I do wanna bring up before we go on, or before we, because I know we're coming close to the end, the Moxley versus Effie match was
Effie vs. Moxley Match Highlights
01:03:56
Speaker
as good. So much kissing. So much kissing, and I say that
01:04:01
Speaker
with all the positivity in the world. We got an Effie match out of the AEW world champion. It was awesome. Jim Cornette seemed to hate it dearly. But I think, man, the promos that happened at the end of that match, which it was a great match, followed by even greater promos.
01:04:25
Speaker
You're saying Jim Cornette didn't like two men kissing in a wrestling ring and didn't understand why that worked for a crowd of GCW fans in 2022? Which this is so fucked up about Jim Cornette, like his I was telling Derek, I said something to Derek today that Jim Cornette's opinions like he is like the Fox News.
01:04:48
Speaker
of pro wrestling. It's sad though. But he and I's politics seem to align in the real world. Right. But it's not the same sequel pay by the way. I was totally wrong. I was going to say that guy is way too fucking young. Yeah, I don't know.
01:05:10
Speaker
How can you have a, that room was so hot, man. That room was loud. We have a listener of the show, friend of the show, Noah, who was in the room and he said that the showboat is usually crazy, but that was exceptionally crazy for that match.
01:05:29
Speaker
which is so, it was so fun. Like I love to see Effie get a main event match no matter who it's against, let alone one of the top wrestlers in the fucking world. And Mox, I will note Mox did find a way to bleed even in a match with Effie that did not have otherwise a lot of death match spots. It looks like he bladed himself on the kiss.
01:05:53
Speaker
which is like right at the end of the match. It looks like he had to sneak blood in the last 30 seconds. He's like, okay, they told us we gotta go home, slice across the forehead. All I could think was like, how many times has he bladed, like, like how long was it into his relationship with Renee before he bladed himself when they kissed? I mean, when they were exchanging vows, just a single drop of blood trickled down the nose.
01:06:28
Speaker
My love, my blood, and just a small, with this blood, I promise you. She's like using her wedding dress to like tack, like no, stop the bleeding. But then, so after the Effie match, Moxley set, this is insane too, because it's so hard
01:06:52
Speaker
to think of Jon Moxley as a heel anywhere. He's so over. What was it, last year he was voted number one wrestler in the whole world? By someone, probably sure, yeah. Well, I think that was PWI. Oh, sure, yeah, that seems reasonable. I think he was number one last year. And for him to be in this small room, everybody's going insane. He just beat Effie, who is absolutely a fan favorite, gets on the mic and says, no offense to Effie,
01:07:24
Speaker
But I am here for fun and for practice, and lately GCW's been too fucking easy. And the booze that came in on that, and then fucking for whom the bell toll hits, I forget as a Metallica song, like if I went to a Metallica show, when that song started playing, I would think they were surprising me with Nick Gage.
Nick Gage's Return and High-Stakes Match
01:07:52
Speaker
The crowd goes insane, Nick Gage cuts in, cuts an awesome promo about how this last year's been the hardest year of his life and he wants the title back. Hardest year of his life and this man has been to prison for multiple years. He's gone twice, he got out and had to go back. This was the hardest year.
01:08:12
Speaker
And I mean, it looks like it looks like he was in a rough spot this year. And I I hate to see that man in a rough spot like he I it's so weird to say this about.
01:08:25
Speaker
In my mind, I was about to say celebrity, but he is known in like, I mean, a celebrity to us. Yeah, in a certain wrestling context, I mean, he's not a worldwide celebrity, but he's, I mean, you know, people who have gauges. I've never felt this sense of closeness and caring for a celebrity. Their celebrity has like blessed your child, has asked you about how they're doing and how your wife is doing. I mean,
01:08:54
Speaker
That's true. But, you know, like he's our gang leader. We're in the MDK gang. If you bought, I'd say at least one thing from that clothing company that ended up leaving and start in circle six, you're in the gang. No, but I'm with you. It's a big it's an emotional moment. Well, especially since again, like. They clearly before they wanted to do more than one mocks engage match. And so they're going to do it.
01:09:24
Speaker
which is exciting. They haven't announced when and where yet. I presume this hinges in some way on probably Mach's losing the AEW title because one of the things they announced was, uh, and I love, I love that Mach's calls him Nicky cause you just know it's, it's such a perfect little dig. No one, no one else calls Nick Gage Nicky. You can't, uh, no one like to, to disrespect the King.
01:09:52
Speaker
When GCW does a storyline, they do it so well. It doesn't happen enough.
01:10:00
Speaker
Are they only good at doing it when it's with Nick Gage and Matt Cardona? Like, we've not seen much outside of those two people getting legitimate storylines in this company. But those two are so good at it. But yeah, and I think, but the match they've set up, it's title, it's for the title, but it's title versus career, which is gonna be fucking intense. And I, again, Garrett, you're telling us you're gonna, no matter where this is, you're gonna be there.
01:10:31
Speaker
So we discussed this. I think potentially it could be spring break. I think they would hold out that long. Because I think you had said potentially a Hammerstein show in January, which I'll figure out and make work if that's the case.
01:10:48
Speaker
but you can't have the balls out death match there. That's the, that'd be the downside would be bigger venue. Oh, again, unless there's somewhere else you do, instead of doing the Hammerstein, you do somewhere else bigger that holds, you know, like the Hammerstein does like 2,500 people and do something like that. It doesn't have to be in New York necessarily. Yeah. I, it does make sense to me too, that they would want to have Nick Gage win in New Jersey.
01:11:14
Speaker
Right. That would be the other logical location would be the, the hard thing is that I don't know. Can you, like, can you make that work in terms of like drawing the way you want to, I guess you just made me to jacket up the general admission prices up to like 50 bucks per something. And you just say to get into the showboat, cause they sold a lot of tickets for the first one. And those were $40 just to get in and no one argued about a dollar or that one. I'll tell you.
01:11:40
Speaker
Gage versus Mox2, I'll be a member of the Patreon. Whatever money you make me want to pay to sit front row. I need that Nick Gage glass and blood on me. You're going for a row. All right. I would 100%. I know that'll be impossible, but I would. Yeah, I would absolutely like that would.
01:12:01
Speaker
Oh, that would bring me so much joy. There's so, that is absolutely a match. Especially like in his promo, he said, I understand I'm getting to the end of my career. And before my career is over, I need that again. And then Mox, his response to him was something along the lines of, I know my dog has about four good years left in him and I fucking love my dog. But when it's time,
01:12:28
Speaker
I will put him down and Nikki, I'm going to fucking put you down. It's just like, God, like they like they basically emptied my bank account into that match where I was just like, take whatever you need to get me there. It's such a great line because, you know, because our other favorite promo of all time or one of them, right, is the Cody Dustin promo where he also talks about taking
01:12:56
Speaker
a gun and putting a bullet in the head of the attitude era via his brother, which is spectacular. And people will laugh about Cody now, and we all should, because the last year or so, two years was weird. But 2019, that man was the best promo in the goddamn world, and that was exceptional. But same idea, but it's an emotional moment, the idea that I will
01:13:21
Speaker
take you down. And I think that's on the table for that thing. We all know gauge is close enough where that feels on the table. Um, I think it's going to be fucking I'm there. I mean, if it's anywhere, I mean, if it's anywhere, it makes sense. I'm, I'm there. It's going to be amazing. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't planning on doing mania this year.
01:13:41
Speaker
Just because baby's here. But honest to God, like Leah has given me permission. She's like, even if it has to be like there and back in 24 hours, I will be at that match. And it sounds like mania this year, we might get the rock. So I do love the idea. You have a very supportive wife, Garrett. She's like, you can go where Nick Gage goes and you can cook me as much fish covered and control your nutrition as you want.
01:14:09
Speaker
I really hit a home run with my wife. We're very on the same page about things. And I think she understands her and baby are number one, obviously. But Nick Gage, fucking number two, man. Our cats are number three. Nick Gage is above the cats. I love the cats to death. But Nick Gage just, what a fucking guy.
01:14:36
Speaker
Man, I could talk about him for another hour. Thankfully, I think we're gonna get a lot more opportunities to talk about him soon. I'm hoping it's him and Cardona's in Chicago. Honestly, of the last, when was the Cardona match that was? Almost a year ago, exactly, last July.
01:15:13
Speaker
I don't know, people talk about, again, we all talk about Jim Cornette, right? And Jim Cornette wants to get back real heat and people, if feeling dangerous again. People fucking pelting Matt Cardona with shit. It felt real and it felt dangerous. You know, and that's real.
01:15:24
Speaker
That is possibly my favorite match of the entire last year.
01:15:29
Speaker
And Cardona being willing to put his body through that shit after being years of just being like basically to me on the same level as like a Dolph Ziggler. Like Dolph Ziggler isn't doing that shit for me. Matt Cardona is. I don't know like I. Yeah. I look as I learned an Appalachian expose with Brian Myers.
01:15:55
Speaker
where he sat down with Shane Douglas on you, which of course you can find in the Appalachian Championship Wrestling YouTube channel. Um, you know, these guys care about this. They've been pitching. They were trying to be more interesting and push boundaries when they were in WWE and they weren't allowed to. And they're Brian Myers like, yeah, I make a little bit less money now that I used to. Cause WWE gave me insane amounts of money, but I'm much, much happier.
01:16:18
Speaker
Um, and those guys are living out there, ECW fantasies and trying to get as much real heat as possible. And Cardona's going all the way with it. I'm very, I'm super excited for him. I mean, to him to be back, it's incredibly fast. I mean, he
Final Thoughts and Community Engagement
01:16:34
Speaker
tore his pack. It was like three months ago. He's coming back. He does have a match scheduled in like three weeks. So he will be back in that you think.
01:16:42
Speaker
You'd think Chicago weekend would be the right time to do that. So I'm ready. For your sake, I hope you get to see it. It would be those two in a ring. They made magic last time. I can only imagine it's going to be because they have to try and top it, right? Like they can't just put on a lesser match than they did the first time.
01:17:05
Speaker
No, I think they're gonna go all out. And the question, of course, Garret, is, is it gonna be five stars? Which, of course, is what you should rate this podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, or whatever your podcast platform of choice is. Absolutely. Hey, it is towards the end of the time here. Thanks so much for listening, guys. On social media, I'm at Gartet. We're at Predetermined Podcasts on Instagram.
01:17:35
Speaker
Follow those. Yeah, I think Chris Miggs, you'll see, I'll post some pictures of me. You'll get to see the various concerts that he and I attend. Honestly, we should have talked more about our concert going, because I know Fax and I are more movie guys. You and I are more concert guys. Like, we have a large concert.
01:17:59
Speaker
Large, I don't even know what I'm trying to say. This was way more rum than I thought it was when it started. Well, see, here's the issue, Garrett. Normally, we talk about what's happened in the last week. And of course, I have not gone to a concert in the last week, because again, I had COVID. I'm willing to go out to eateries, but not concerts. I won't infect a fellow music goer.
Upcoming Events and Personal Life
01:18:20
Speaker
But I will be going to a concert this weekend. So maybe we'll talk about that next week. We'll talk about that experience.
01:18:28
Speaker
Yeah, we'll talk more about meat and, uh, professional. We're probably, we'll probably both end up grilling up more stakes this weekend. Um, and, and talk about that with, and I think that's the way back next week. He's, uh, he's traveling this week. So he sends his regards to us all. And soon, Derek, um,
01:18:46
Speaker
will be here. At the very least, Derek and I are gonna talk very extensively at All Out Weekend. And at worst, I will just repeat things Derek has said on the podcast. And coming up soon, I am very, very close to having a baby. I'm going to my chemical romance with my wife on Tuesday, which is like 10 years in the making for us. This is a big deal. She could give birth at the concert. So if for some reason a week disappears, it's probably because of that.
01:19:15
Speaker
Yeah, just we're not going away for 11 months or two years again. We'll just we'll be here. It just we might allow ourselves a week for Garrett having a child. That being said, you guys record. I'll still edit. I probably have, you know, an hour 15 to edit at night. We'll get it. Yeah, you look like a lot of times, you know, for the guy during during childbirth, there's a lot of waiting time.
01:19:39
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I thought. I even said to my wife, I should probably go ahead and pack in my bag the podcast stuff, right? So I can get a podcast from the delivery room just in case. But yeah, either way guys, thank you so much for listening. We will be back next week. Control your nutrition, control your narrative. Buy your Beastman shirts. Love you to death. See you soon.