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E51: Sorry, Jerid's back...

E51 · Triple-T for Knife Makers
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Now that Jerid is back, we have to stop talking about him... kinda of.  Come listen in about his vacation and how he didn't talk about knives for 2 weeks.  

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Transcript

Podcast Relaunch with Jared and Dennis

00:00:16
echo_blades
What's happening, everybody? Welcome to another triple T podcast for knife makers. My name is Jared and I'm from echo blades. And again, I have Dennis from Terrell knife works.
00:00:29
Denis Tyrell
I'm so excited about it. geez You should miss me.
00:00:31
echo_blades
No, first yeah I do miss you, dude.
00:00:32
Denis Tyrell
It's been two weeks.
00:00:35
echo_blades
I do. I do. I do. It's been a long, long time. And normally youve if in between we're chatting or doing anything, but I kind of went in my. But I do have to make like a full on public service announcement and, ah and extend a really important apology for three very, very special people.
00:00:53
echo_blades
Um, Rick Hall, Spencer, and Kyle, i my deepest, my deepest and most sincere apologies for sticking you with this guy for, uh, the two episodes that you guys had to endure this, uh, friend of mine.
00:00:55
Denis Tyrell
I knew you were going to do that.
00:01:10
Denis Tyrell
I thought those episodes went really nice and smooth and we had lots to talk about. It's funny what happens when you're not here.
00:01:16
echo_blades
Oh my God. I'm i just, I could, I, I did, I did listen. They were fantastic. Uh, but again, I, I, I, my, my deepest and sincerest apologies for having it be so just mellow.
00:01:33
Denis Tyrell
You're such a dick.
00:01:36
echo_blades
No, but for real, thank you guys for filling in. You guys did a great job. Um, and yeah, I'm back fuckers. So let's roll. What's up.
00:01:46
Denis Tyrell
So let's

Jared's Cruise Reflections

00:01:47
Denis Tyrell
start. How was the cruise? Are you all relaxed now?
00:01:50
echo_blades
Um, I'm back to not being relaxed. Uh, I did return relaxed though. Yes. Yes. Only stick out. I'll zoom in because that's the only way I can deal with you. Um, yeah, I know the cruise was fantastic, man. It was, uh, it was, how do you describe, I think I just was telling somebody the that today that it was way too long and not long enough. Uh, 10 days, uh, on a, on a boat was, uh, it was good.
00:02:19
echo_blades
Um, but I think at the very end of it, um, I was ready to come home.
00:02:25
Denis Tyrell
See, I've spent two weeks at a resort before and then yeah, by like the 10 day mark, you're ready to like, you you get kind of bored and that's that's on a massive fucking resort like Moon Palace.
00:02:36
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:02:36
Denis Tyrell
I think I would go a little stir crazy being on a cruise for 10 days.
00:02:41
echo_blades
Well, the, the cool thing was that, um, well, excuse me, there was, um, We did seven ports in 10 days. So there was plenty to do. We weren't stuck on the on the boat for anything. There was only two sea days. um But nevertheless, it gets yeah like the the food on those things is supposed to be the highlight. And um on the previous ones that I've done, I've I ate myself into a oblivion, but this one was came with the most like super high ratings like five star Michelin chefs on board at some of the restaurants and stuff.
00:03:20
echo_blades
um And it was just okay.
00:03:22
Denis Tyrell
And it was Princess or crew Virgin.
00:03:22
echo_blades
It was not a virgin. Virgin. Yeah, I can't remember. i I knew I was gonna forget it, but the the guy Branson, something Branson, the dude that does Virgin Airlines, and he does things a little a little differently, and it's over the top.
00:03:34
Denis Tyrell
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:03:37
echo_blades
I mean, it was pretty cool, because there's no kids ah um on the cruise at all.
00:03:42
Denis Tyrell
Oh, and okay. You had me.
00:03:43
echo_blades
They're, yeah.
00:03:43
Denis Tyrell
You have me now. but
00:03:45
echo_blades
And I mean, coming from a guy that's done like six or seven Disney cruises with my family over the years, that was that was different. um It was pretty cool. see There was plenty of stuff to do.
00:03:58
echo_blades
Um, but again, the food was just kind of me. So by the time we were done, we're just like, want to come home and have a, have a home cooked meal. Uh, that was, it like high on my list.
00:04:06
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:04:09
echo_blades
Like I'll, I'll just, I just wondered regular fucking food. yeah Yeah.
00:04:14
Denis Tyrell
ah yeah I know what you mean by like, just eating out so many days in a row.
00:04:18
echo_blades
Yeah. But I mean, don't get me wrong. Uh, the, the islands were just beautiful. Um,
00:04:27
Denis Tyrell
What was your favorite island you went to?
00:04:29
echo_blades
Barbados.
00:04:30
Denis Tyrell
Really?
00:04:30
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:04:32
Denis Tyrell
See, when I was in Barbados, it was windy. It was probably just the weather that day, but it was windiest Fuck! And I just didn't like it that much.
00:04:40
echo_blades
Yeah, no, it was probably the, it was the most enjoyable, um, like tour that we did.
00:04:46
Denis Tyrell
Really?
00:04:47
echo_blades
Um, and the, uh, and we did a little beach time. Actually ah we're oddly enough, but we spent very little time on the beach because we didn't do any of the shore excursions.
00:04:59
echo_blades
Um, because they're it's like, uh, you've having done as many cruises as we have, you know, unless it's something you really want to do, it's really just like a ah a waste of money. Like if you go through a tour through them, it's like twice as much.
00:05:10
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:05:13
echo_blades
um So we kind of just like took our chances and got off the boat and just let let whatever happened.
00:05:18
Denis Tyrell
Got off the boat and yeah.
00:05:21
echo_blades
We walked around a couple a couple of ports, didn't really do much, tried to just get as much like, seeing know the local stuff as we could. And then we started ah doing tours and um with every intention to to like, get a beach day, but um They just, it just didn't work out that way. But Barbados, we did. It was really nice. Got a, got a beach with a, you know, a lounge chair and an umbrella. And we weren't even at the beach very, very long, but it was cool. It was very nice. But all the other islands were, I mean, there was a couple of ones that, I mean, overall, I don't think I ever need to go back to any of them.
00:06:01
echo_blades
Like, I think that's the good thing about a a cruise for me is that you get to see and experience, you know, the places enough to where you can, like, I would like to come back here. And I didn't get that vibe from any of those.
00:06:14
Denis Tyrell
Did you like tortola?
00:06:16
echo_blades
Tortola was probably the worst.
00:06:19
Denis Tyrell
Really? Why?
00:06:19
echo_blades
Yeah, it was just I don't know. It. It had a vibe that they were like in a rebuilding process, like the downtown area was super like I don't want to say trashy because
00:06:29
Denis Tyrell
Oh yes, I never went to the town. I just chucked out. i was We were in the beach in the cove. and
00:06:34
echo_blades
Yeah, maybe that was what we should have done because the the downtown part and, uh, that was the very first stop. So we really didn't kind of have our, our plan figured out. Um, but it was, yeah, that was probably the most of the least developed.
00:06:49
echo_blades
Um, and then, um, what was the other one? There was a couple of them, and they were but we did so many, they're all blend together after a while. So like no.
00:06:58
Denis Tyrell
Did you, you didn't go to Virgin Gorda though.
00:07:02
echo_blades
No. Um, St. Lucia was pretty cool too.
00:07:06
Denis Tyrell
Oh yeah, that's good.
00:07:08
echo_blades
Yeah. We did a waterfall there.
00:07:09
Denis Tyrell
I've been there.
00:07:10
echo_blades
That was, that was awesome. The the windiest roads I think I've ever been on in my entire life. Like I don't get carsick. Um, but I, I was like borderline on the way back.
00:07:21
echo_blades
I was like, this, this needs to end cause cause I'm,
00:07:26
Denis Tyrell
Would you go to the pitons? the
00:07:27
echo_blades
Yeah, we went past those or no, no, I don't think we went all the way to him, but we're on our way there.
00:07:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you you can't, you can't go up though.
00:07:32
echo_blades
Yeah, yeah. No, no, like it's like one road in and it's just windy as fuck all the way till the end.
00:07:38
Denis Tyrell
yay
00:07:39
echo_blades
And there was a ah waterfall that we did go to those like 60 feet. I think that was really cool. Um, what else?
00:07:45
Denis Tyrell
Nice. Good weather.
00:07:46
echo_blades
Yeah. Weather was perfect, dude. It was, I i think probably 75% of it was all just like 75,

Family Time and Unplugging

00:07:56
echo_blades
80 degrees.
00:07:57
echo_blades
Uh, no rain. Um, a couple of days we got. a little ah muggy and some rain here and there. Martinique was, that was another one I didn't care for too. The French vibe there was people were not very welcoming, but it's a it was cool then. I mean, overall it was, I mean, I think i what I really wanted to like, what I really have to say is I got a couple other funny stories too, but um The most important and the most enjoyable part of that trip was, you know, my wife and I are, our kids are almost grown. Our youngest is 16. Uh, the girls are, are older. Um, and you know, we've done a couple trips by ourselves, but, uh, this was probably the, for me personally too, cause I'm a, I, I'm a workaholic, right? I do.
00:08:51
echo_blades
My job, i do I have a side business, I do knives, i like you know I'm always... busy focusing on a lot of things, right. And, um, and and with the kids and and life and all that stuff. But so somewhere around, I made it a point this trip to, to unplug from all of that. Um, it actually came at like the absolute worst time that it could possibly come with all the changes that I have going on at work. Um, probably, yeah, I don't think there was a worst time for me to have
00:09:22
echo_blades
taking so much time off, but it was planned way before we knew any of this stuff was happening. but um So I did take my my computer and I did have some some intentions to, you know, like some morning when I was sleeping in or something, I'd go downstairs and log on and try to work, but I ended up not doing anything.
00:09:43
echo_blades
I completely unplugged from, I can, yeah, I completely unplugged from work, from echo blades, from kids, from the dogs, from social media, I mean like the entirety of it all and just really got to spend
00:09:44
Denis Tyrell
Nice, ah good for you.
00:09:57
echo_blades
real quality time with my wife and um it was, it's kind of sad. Cause when you think about it, like it shouldn't, it shouldn't take a, you know, a trip like that to kind of not reconnect, but you know, to, to have that quality under interrupted time. But, you know, unfortunately life's busy and sometimes that's, that's what it takes. So that was absolutely the highlight of my trip was just to,
00:10:24
echo_blades
be with my wife, um you know, and that was it just to focus on her because she puts up a lot of my shit and she deserves, I don't know if she deserves, all I mean is probably a punishment, but yeah i' I was very, very, ask her if she might have a different opinion of it all, but yeah, no, it was, it was really cool, man. We really enjoyed and and and had a lot of fun, so.
00:10:49
Denis Tyrell
Good, good. All right.
00:10:51
echo_blades
Um, I did take, yeah, I know I did take a tour though with a, uh, on the, I think it was the very last one that we did.
00:10:51
Denis Tyrell
Get your ass back to work now.
00:10:57
echo_blades
We got in and, um, a couple of funny things here. So we're. You're together all that time, right? We've been married a long time, right?
00:11:07
echo_blades
And we're not afraid to to say bad things to each other. That's that's very much a part of our relationship. it's not I don't believe in the in the perfect relationship. but i don't I'm not sure one exists.
00:11:17
echo_blades
If you haven't been good for you, i that is that is super awesome. But my wife and I are um highly opinionated at times and especially when we're tired and having that coffee or you know, you know, etc, etc. So we ah were getting off and I wanted to to do something and she wanted to do something else and we were kind of like deciding on how we were going to do it. But when you get off these ships, man, you got to fucking fight this gauntlet.
00:11:44
echo_blades
of the locals, just in God and God bless them, right?
00:11:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:11:48
echo_blades
Because I understand that this is their source of income. This is there. And I coming from where I come, dude, I do not hate on people that try to get their hustle on, right? it It's I respect it.
00:11:59
echo_blades
and And I understand it completely. But It after

Shop Tales and Mice Encounters

00:12:04
echo_blades
seven islands of it and day after day of like, you know, how many times can you politely tell somebody? No. And then you go 10 feet and you got to say no again. And then 10 feet and you got to say no again. And, uh, and I wasn't in the best of moods either. And finally, this guy walks up to me and he goes, Hey, I, I'm going to butcher the accent, but he's like, Hey man, what, what, what does it matter with you, man? He's like, you look pissed off. Like you're supposed to be on vacation. Like what what's the matter with you? You know, like that. And.
00:12:33
echo_blades
And I was like, I was like, I should probably slap you in your face for talking to me like that. Right. But it, I took the moment to stop and was like, you know, you're fucking right.
00:12:47
echo_blades
So I took my glasses and I took my sunglasses off and I looked at him and i I put my hand out and I shook his hand and I told him,
00:12:47
Denis Tyrell
but
00:12:52
echo_blades
I was like, thank you, man. I appreciate that. And he's like, well, you want to come on the, no, not going on your tour, but I do appreciate the, you know, the change in perception of how things are going. So we make it through all the way through this, through this gauntlet and we're going to walk.
00:13:05
echo_blades
But, um, on this Island was, I guess it's a highly religious Island and it was on Sunday and all this the shops were shut. There was, everything was closed because everybody goes to church.
00:13:15
Denis Tyrell
and And what island? what Which one is this?
00:13:16
echo_blades
I can't fuck. I remember it's the,
00:13:19
Denis Tyrell
The last one?
00:13:20
echo_blades
It's the very last one, very at the very end of that trail there. Um, Bridgetown.
00:13:29
Denis Tyrell
Bridgetown.
00:13:30
echo_blades
Bridgetown Kings. That was another thing that they was kept fucking with me is that the cruise line kept identifying the ports as the cities that of the islands.
00:13:32
Denis Tyrell
Oh.
00:13:38
echo_blades
So it's a King town, Bridgetown, something, Castries, St.
00:13:40
Denis Tyrell
oh
00:13:43
echo_blades
Lucia, you know, like it was, and I'm like, where the fuck am I?
00:13:45
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:13:48
echo_blades
I don't know. To, or, uh, What was it? One of them is St. John's and and actually, yeah, I don't know. They're all blending together.
00:13:57
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I don't remember.
00:13:59
echo_blades
Anyways, so this thing is all shut down. we're We're almost out of the town and I'm like, you know, fucking this one dude, just the last guy comes up to me and he's like, I know you've been through all these people. He's like, and they're charging you this and charging you that, but he's like 20 bucks.
00:14:14
echo_blades
And I'll take you on the best tour that you've had and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I, uh, I wanted to do something else. I had like an hour to kill and I was like, well, I got about like an hour, hour and a half or something like that. You want 20 bucks. You want to take us out? You know, that's cool. I gotta be back here by 12 30 to go do something else. And so we jump in the, in the truck with him and I look, uh, and he gets in the passenger seat and I look in and cause we're in like one row back in the back seat. I look in the middle and this dude's got big ass bag of weed sitting in between him.
00:14:45
echo_blades
And the fucking right next to him on the on the and everybody's driving on the other side of the road. That

Dennis' Knife Projects and Teaching Plans

00:14:51
echo_blades
was That was a mind fuck ah You know because they're whatever their you know, their territories are British, you know, um you know English and France and all this crap so um So he's on the wrong side of the fucking car driving and he's got this big-ass bag of weed We start going out he ends up picking up this other Canadian couple which I ran into a lot of fucking Canadian people
00:14:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:15:14
echo_blades
a lot of butter talk, butter tart talk, dude.
00:15:18
Denis Tyrell
welcome.
00:15:19
echo_blades
Yeah. And ah we started going out and um supposedly they filmed the Pirates of the Caribbean on this island.
00:15:28
Denis Tyrell
Oh, okay.
00:15:28
echo_blades
So there, he's like, okay, you guys want to go out there? And I'm like, yeah, so He's like, oh, it's gonna be another 15 bucks or something like that for the trip. So I decided to forget the other plans that we had. And we get out there and we come back and we stop at at this beach and um we get out and I go walk on the beach, like Black Sand Beach, which wasn't, it just, if it looked like, it felt like dirty sand, like, cause it was black, like, I was so unimpressed with the Black Sand Beach.
00:15:57
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah, don't would don't walk out him on a hard day.
00:16:00
echo_blades
Yeah, it was like, what the hell? So we come back and I look over and, you know, I come from a, from a less than easy upbringing, right? And I see this dude standing over in front on the hood of his car and he's talking with this other dude. And I'm like, Lynn, this dude's fucking doing, doing a deal right now. Like, you know, they got bags on the fucking hood and they're just, you know, selling or buying. I couldn't figure out if dude was pushing weed or if he was, if he was buying weed.
00:16:29
echo_blades
Um, but nevertheless, he was doing his thing. Then he walks over and he grabs a beer and he fucking chugs a beer and then goes around to the front and I see him driver.
00:16:36
Denis Tyrell
This is your driver?
00:16:38
echo_blades
Yeah. Chugs of beer.
00:16:39
Denis Tyrell
but
00:16:39
echo_blades
I'm like, okay. Right. And then he goes over and then I see him rolling a, uh, rolling a, uh, join up. And he kind of kind of goes out of sight a little bit and see he takes a you know a couple puffs and comes back. Then he comes back to the car and this motherfucker can't find the goddamn keys for like 10 minutes. He's ripping diabetes in his pockets, ripping under the seats around asking people all around. We got like all these locals like surrounding the car like and they're kind of like half making fun of him and
00:17:10
echo_blades
And I'm like, Oh, this is great. We're probably at the farthest end away from the ship as we could be. And this dude loses his car keys. um Anyways, then he's like, I wish they were in the ignition, but they were not, but they were very, they were very, very close to like, like right in plain view. I didn't see him either, but um So we go back and the whole time there though, this fool was hauling ass, like the the driving there. I told Lynn, I said, if you ever say anything about my driving again, after this trip, like you're you're out of your mind. Cause I'm pretty sure we almost died like a handful of times. Cause there's no speed limits. There's like all one lane roads are on the other side of the, you know, on the wrong side of the road. Like it was a little stressful sometimes he's hauling ass there. And he was on the way back.
00:18:01
echo_blades
fucking guy's going like five miles an hour the whole fucking way.
00:18:04
Denis Tyrell
because he's stoned out of his mind
00:18:05
echo_blades
He was, no, he was doted. He was just absolutely blazed. He turns around, he looks at us and he's like, you know, sometimes you just got to take the medication and he puts a little like the weed, you know, to the mouth type thing.
00:18:20
echo_blades
And he's like, and not take life so serious, you know, and we're just going to, you know, and cruise. And I mean, and people were like walking past us like, what it's like people getting out of church and it was good.
00:18:29
Denis Tyrell
That's because he stoned, that was my...
00:18:32
echo_blades
I had a whole conversation with somebody on the side of the road. Um, yeah, it was, it was pretty cool.
00:18:37
Denis Tyrell
that that That sounds like probably what my vacation is going to be like in Jamaica in a couple of weeks.
00:18:38
echo_blades
you
00:18:42
echo_blades
Oh yeah. Yeah. ah I wouldn't, I wouldn't doubt it, dude. It was a lot of weed. Everywhere I went, someone was trying to sell me weed. I kept trying to not, I don't, I don't drink. I don't smoke, you know, which was kind of a ah tough spot for me because, you know, normally I would not participate in somebody drinking and you know what I mean?
00:19:00
echo_blades
Like the the whole thing goes against a lot of who I am today. Uh, but there's, there's only so much you can impose that stuff when you're on an island across the world.
00:19:04
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:19:15
echo_blades
But yeah. And then then the ship was like split between, Um, Americans and others.
00:19:22
Denis Tyrell
Right, always is.
00:19:23
echo_blades
And I, and I, well, predominantly, I guess, I dunno, I guess, especially with knife making, how, how vast my exposure to other cultures is guy, you know, can, you know, a lot of Canadians, but, you know, as you travel and you start like interacting with more people as you guys get older for me anyways, that's been my experience.
00:19:43
echo_blades
Um, I, uh,
00:19:48
echo_blades
I have a very narrow minded American view of how everything is and like being exposed to to other cultures. There was two comedians on and and one was Canadian and one was, uh, from, uh, it was English and they did, they did all.
00:20:06
echo_blades
couple, you know, the bits on the difference between Americans and and and everyone else. And it was it was funny. It was it was really cool to kind of experience and chat up people from other areas. You know, one guy from ah from the UK was bitching and complaining about how He kept telling me that when you talk to Donald Trump, tell him that, you know, we're pals. but I was like, what do you mean your pal? He's like, we stormed the beaches together. where We live in a free world because America and, and, you know, we, we beat the Germans and like, he was pissed off that he, I got like shuttled like cattle into, um, when he got into Miami to do his transfer flight, he was pissed. Um, and, and a whole bunch of other stuff, but it was cool.
00:20:54
Denis Tyrell
Well, it sounds like a good time.
00:20:56
echo_blades
It was great.
00:20:56
Denis Tyrell
Did you talk to anybody about knife making? This is my always my question.
00:20:59
echo_blades
I did. I gained two followers.
00:21:04
Denis Tyrell
that Good, good.
00:21:04
echo_blades
Yeah. And.
00:21:10
echo_blades
but But I was very limited. I was very limited. I made it a point to not, you know, do it like I wore my Echo Blade shirt a couple of times and had a couple of conversations with a handful of people.
00:21:21
echo_blades
Um, and then that, uh, a little more in-depth conversation with a couple of couples and, and that came up. And, um, so that was cool, but it was very, very minimal, like, yeah and it was purposeful because of me trying to be, uh, uh, attentive was the word that I was focusing on trying to be attentive to my wife. So not too much, not too much echo blades.
00:21:51
Denis Tyrell
Good. Good. Well.
00:21:53
echo_blades
And surprisingly enough, and I'll shut up after this, surprisingly enough, Puerto Rico, which is a place that I never thought I would ever go. But we did fly into there, spend a night and a half a day. And then we came back and we spent another day there was, was fucking beautiful. It was really, really, really awesome. The old town San Juan was probably, when I say that my favorite Island was Barbados, I think overall, I think, uh, probably the most enjoyable less stress time I had was in and was in Puerto Rico.
00:22:24
echo_blades
It was really, really, really cool.
00:22:27
Denis Tyrell
Cool. Yeah. I've never been there.
00:22:29
echo_blades
So yeah, i i it's a place I never thought I would ever have been or visited, but it's pretty cool. I do know that, I think one time Fader was talking about when he he went over to, um I can't think of the guy he visits and um in Spain or something.
00:22:50
echo_blades
God, what is his name? His buddy, the Florentine Kitchen Knights.
00:22:51
Denis Tyrell
Oh, Florentine kitchen knives. Hey.
00:22:53
echo_blades
Yeah. He goes over there. He talks about his guts portraying him. Oh, God. I do know that I'll i'll save you guys the the details, but I experienced Two types of bathrooms in Puerto Rico, one where the toilet seat was so high, I'm not a little dude.
00:23:12
echo_blades
And I swear to God, I got on this, I got to like hop up on this toilet and like my feet were like dangling.
00:23:18
Denis Tyrell
it It really was a throne.
00:23:20
echo_blades
It was a throne, yeah. And then, and then the other version was like, it was for a very small person.
00:23:29
echo_blades
But yeah, that was eventful to say the least.
00:23:32
Denis Tyrell
I remember being in Jamaica and the one of the first times, so the probably the first time I was there. And I remember the urinals on the wall were so high, you had to like stand like three feet back and like get an arc going.
00:23:46
Denis Tyrell
get it
00:23:46
echo_blades
yeah yeah You know why, buddy? Because you you ain't equipped the same way those guys are.
00:23:54
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, right. They don't want to get the tip wet.
00:23:55
echo_blades
yeah No, yeah, they throw it over their shoulder and do it backwards.
00:24:03
Denis Tyrell
Oh man, this podcast is degraded.
00:24:07
echo_blades
Oh, so good.

Knife Shows and Tool Adventures

00:24:09
Denis Tyrell
So you've been, you've been back a week.
00:24:10
echo_blades
But yeah, I've done zero.
00:24:11
Denis Tyrell
Have you done anything knife related? Zero.
00:24:15
echo_blades
I have done zero. I got back on Tuesday when I got back. I was up for 28 hours when we came back because we're four hours ahead um and the night before for whatever reason, I fucking couldn't sleep and I got up at like four o'clock in the morning that time and we didn't get back into San Francisco or SFO until midnight our time and then waiting for the bags.
00:24:42
Denis Tyrell
So 4am, so 4am.
00:24:43
echo_blades
Huh? Yeah. Yeah. And then we didn't get back to the house until about almost three o'clock in the morning because of the bags.
00:24:52
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's a long time.
00:24:53
echo_blades
I was trying to tell, you know, if you fly into SFO at whatever time you land in, you're almost an hour plus to get to your car.
00:25:03
Denis Tyrell
Oh yeah.
00:25:03
echo_blades
That's if everything goes sweet, like yeah and at least.
00:25:05
Denis Tyrell
If you got to pick up bags, you're at least an hour dear car.
00:25:08
echo_blades
Yeah. And then you got the tram back and all that. So we didn't get back.
00:25:10
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:25:11
echo_blades
and We're about an hour. something from there. So it was almost like 245 by the time we got back to the house. So, and then I went to sleep, got up at slept for four hours and then went to work the next day.
00:25:23
Denis Tyrell
Man.
00:25:23
echo_blades
Um, so I was pretty spent, uh, the Thursday and the Friday Saturday, I golfed, um, did a golf tournament, uh, with Jeff.
00:25:32
echo_blades
That was, that was cool. Finally got to see him. I got to fucking golf with him because he's making parts for some asshole all day long. Uh, and then, um, Sunday, I have every intention on either hitting you up and getting together or just spending some time and in my shop.
00:25:50
echo_blades
But I ended up sleeping fucking the whole day. Like it was.
00:25:53
Denis Tyrell
You didn't even watch football games?
00:25:55
echo_blades
Yeah, I did.
00:25:55
Denis Tyrell
Both of which were depressing.
00:25:55
echo_blades
I mean, i like I did. I was. Yeah, I got up and. ah you know, hung around the house. I was like, Oh, get on. I was like nine, 10. I took a fucking nap and then I woke up and I'm like, Oh, I'm hungry.
00:26:08
echo_blades
And then I'm like, Oh, the games are going to start. And then it was just, it was a wash. I went to bed at seven o'clock last night and, and still slept all night too. So I guess it was a little catch up.
00:26:19
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:26:20
Denis Tyrell
Well, I've had a pretty eventful time while you were gone.
00:26:20
echo_blades
So yeah,
00:26:24
echo_blades
tell me about it.
00:26:25
Denis Tyrell
Uh, what did I do? Uh, started the folder series.
00:26:30
echo_blades
I did catch those two. Very cool.
00:26:31
Denis Tyrell
Oh, good. Good.
00:26:33
echo_blades
Yep.
00:26:34
Denis Tyrell
So that's working well. It'll be the third install this week. Um, I don't know if I'm going to get one next. um I might tape them both this week for, uh, this week and next week.
00:26:47
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:26:48
Denis Tyrell
Um, So yeah, folders is going really well. It's actually pretty close because I got to do bolsters and, you know, bevel, like bevel the blade and shit like that. And then I'm going to do that, that, um, special treatment on all the titanium to turn it black.
00:27:04
Denis Tyrell
This is going to be like a blacked out blade with, um, uh, actually it was Parker's idea to do, um, a black, like a dark stone wash on the blade.
00:27:15
Denis Tyrell
And then everything will be black because it's a like black carbon fiber.
00:27:15
echo_blades
Nice.
00:27:20
Denis Tyrell
with like the silver flex in it, and then all the titanium would be black. The liner is everything.
00:27:25
echo_blades
Yeah, no, that'd be cool.
00:27:26
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, so I think that'll look cool.
00:27:27
echo_blades
I dig that.
00:27:30
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, did that. I finally put that new shed up to get all the crap out of the garage. What are you pointing at?
00:27:38
echo_blades
The notes.
00:27:39
Denis Tyrell
Oh.
00:27:40
echo_blades
Go ahead.
00:27:43
Denis Tyrell
um Yeah, and started I've been doing a lot of Um, a lot of Damascus work, uh, those, the mosaic for the keyhole is almost done.
00:27:57
Denis Tyrell
I just got to do the final restack for it, which is the ability that you named.
00:28:00
echo_blades
Okay. The one that I, that the, the, the billet that I named.
00:28:05
echo_blades
Yeah. I wrote you the note on the, on the pattern.
00:28:06
Denis Tyrell
i I don't see the notes.
00:28:08
echo_blades
We can't say it.
00:28:12
Denis Tyrell
So I don't know what you're talking about.
00:28:12
echo_blades
All right.
00:28:14
Denis Tyrell
Um, yes, it did that. And then the other mosaic is done. Um, like it's in bar form, so it's ready to be turned into a knife. So that'll actually probably be the one I do after, um, um, the two buoys that I'm working on, which are these like dual nickel, but there's no video on these there.
00:28:34
Denis Tyrell
I'm just doing these in the meantime.
00:28:37
echo_blades
Okay.
00:28:37
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, tons of like four, four different builds going on right now, but yeah, it's been good.
00:28:44
echo_blades
Very cool. I heard you had some ah exciting news for, or some upcoming news for on maritime ah with the with the folder stuff.
00:28:54
Denis Tyrell
Yes, yes. Um, been talking to Lawrence and, uh, his folder section on maritime knife supply is going to be available soon. So, um, hopefully before this series is over, you'll be able to get folder parts on maritime, including, I think he's been planning on, um, um, on having titanium and all of the, all of the, the drills you need, the reamers, all that stuff.
00:29:10
echo_blades
Very cool.
00:29:22
Denis Tyrell
And I think. One of the things he and I have talked about is having a cheat sheet, having a, here's a list of everything you need. If you want to make a liner lock, this is everything you need, or even not just a liner lock, but because that is honestly, that was the most problem.
00:29:33
echo_blades
Oh, that's cool.
00:29:41
Denis Tyrell
Like that was the biggest challenge. And one of the reasons why I took the course to figure out what the hell do I need?
00:29:47
echo_blades
Right.
00:29:47
Denis Tyrell
Um, so we're gonna, and I'm going to help. I'm going to probably make that cheat sheet. Like, Hey, you need a number 54 drill. You need a number of 53 drill. And here's what those two are for. And you need this and you need this and like list out what every one of those things is for.
00:30:04
echo_blades
Yeah, you would use you were on the last video. You were like, yeah, you can try this, this bit, but it's, it's a little costly. It was about 105 bucks.
00:30:15
echo_blades
like Yeah.
00:30:19
Denis Tyrell
Well, that is a a solid carbide counterbore.
00:30:23
echo_blades
yeah
00:30:24
Denis Tyrell
or those 256 bolt heads, those titanium bolts.
00:30:26
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:30:28
Denis Tyrell
And, uh, yeah.
00:30:29
echo_blades
So you've got, so I only bring that up because us poor people just want to see the needs and that would be cool. because
00:30:36
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I just got one of those. it is It is a, you know, you can do it with a drill. It just doesn't, you know, you got to play with the, the depth a little more because the drill is, has an angle on it, but, uh, the counterpores.
00:30:42
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:30:45
echo_blades
Right.
00:30:48
echo_blades
Right. That was a kind of board for the, for the, for the bearing, right?
00:30:51
Denis Tyrell
No, for the bolt heads.
00:30:52
echo_blades
For the bolt heads. Okay.
00:30:54
Denis Tyrell
For all those, all the little machine screws, the counterbore is those into the bolstering into your skills.
00:30:56
echo_blades
Okay.
00:31:00
echo_blades
Nice.
00:31:02
Denis Tyrell
So, uh, yeah.
00:31:03
echo_blades
Yeah, I did. but I was like, I did the double take rewind. I'm like, how how much?
00:31:07
Denis Tyrell
Well, the counterbore to do the bearings, those are also a hundred and $110 for those, but they're solid carbide.
00:31:12
echo_blades
Oh, geez.
00:31:14
Denis Tyrell
That's why you need the big carbide ones for the, uh, and you can't really do without it for bearings.
00:31:14
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:31:18
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:31:21
echo_blades
You're right on.
00:31:22
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. But um I spoke to Mr. Coye Baker today. um
00:31:28
echo_blades
Before you do that, but if you're, if you're looking for any other knife making needs, yeah, you should go check out, uh, after you're done looking at the the needs and wants section in the full folder of the upcoming.
00:31:32
Denis Tyrell
ah a
00:31:42
echo_blades
Uh, new release from maritime and I supply for all your other knife making needs. You should go there. They got everything. They got your abrasive steel, uh, parts, tools, everything you need to, to get busy with knife making Lawrence has it.
00:31:56
echo_blades
Um, and he'll get it to you, uh, in a jiffy, in a jiffy.
00:32:00
Denis Tyrell
in a jiffy.
00:32:03
echo_blades
So go check
00:32:03
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, so I'm

Knife-Making Techniques and Products

00:32:04
echo_blades
out, let's do it.
00:32:04
Denis Tyrell
gonna move on to our next sponsor because I'm about to talk about them, which is Bakerforged Tool for your premium needs for yeah um Damascus.
00:32:10
echo_blades
Ooh.
00:32:17
Denis Tyrell
um I think the one they just released was Ice Storm, I guess.
00:32:20
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:32:20
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, they just
00:32:21
echo_blades
Yeah. My storm's coming out and raindrop wavy Chevron and never before released a ripple pattern.
00:32:27
Denis Tyrell
nice, which is one of the most popular patterns they have.
00:32:27
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:32:30
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, check out Baker forging tool use the discount code triple t 10.
00:32:30
echo_blades
That's right.
00:32:35
Denis Tyrell
Use the app to find out about early ah drops as fast as they come out. ah You can also find Baker Forge on maritime knife supply and get yourself some gator piss for that premier etchant for your your Baker Forge Damascus or any Damascus.
00:32:49
echo_blades
That's right.
00:32:54
echo_blades
Nice. I just enjoyed a nice cup of Gator piss with my, uh, Gator piss mug this weekend. That was, it was very enjoyable.
00:33:04
echo_blades
I had a little extra flavor in it. So no,
00:33:07
Denis Tyrell
You should watch it more.
00:33:12
Denis Tyrell
ah But um yeah, this, ah no, way it was this, when the hell was it? What day is it? Monday? It was this morning. I was talking to Coy on the phone, ah um planning out his visit, what we're going to do.
00:33:20
echo_blades
same. Oh, it didn't talk to him on the phone, but yeah.
00:33:27
Denis Tyrell
um And he said, contrary to what Jared says, he didn't actually have a plan, um ah but
00:33:33
echo_blades
fucking God damn it, Koi. That's just how to keep anything going, man.
00:33:39
Denis Tyrell
I knew you didn't have a plan anyway. um But we do now. So we might have let that cat out of the bag for the public.
00:33:44
echo_blades
Good.
00:33:47
Denis Tyrell
ah You'll see a bunch of social media on it when he's here.
00:33:51
echo_blades
Awesome.
00:33:52
Denis Tyrell
And something that he's bringing that he wouldn't even tell me. So it's a bit of a surprise. he might not We might not even be allowed to talk about it. I don't know.
00:34:01
echo_blades
I don't think we are, but I think I have an idea.
00:34:05
Denis Tyrell
Oh, interesting.
00:34:05
echo_blades
that that That might be the thing that I was toying with you about, but this is cool.
00:34:11
Denis Tyrell
Uh, okay.
00:34:11
echo_blades
I'm excited.
00:34:13
Denis Tyrell
I'm not sure what it is, but, um, yeah, but, uh, yeah, that's going to be a fun visit that will be only a couple of days after I get back from Jamaica.
00:34:15
echo_blades
Oh, I think I have an idea.
00:34:24
Denis Tyrell
So, uh, yeah, it'll be a quick turnaround and, uh, yeah, I'm not going to get much accomplished in, uh, in February, but or March for that matter.
00:34:25
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:34:33
echo_blades
i'll tell What's happening? in him are Oh yeah. Yeah, that's right. Congrats.
00:34:39
Denis Tyrell
Um, Yeah, I'm t well, I'm teaching five days of classes.
00:34:41
echo_blades
That's all brand new.
00:34:45
Denis Tyrell
No, one one, two, three, four. Yeah. Five days of classes in a row, in a row. um Two different students in early March and then on the starting the 21st, I'll be flying up to Seattle.
00:35:01
Denis Tyrell
um

Fishing Trips and Travel Plans

00:35:02
Denis Tyrell
And I had one of my I think I mentioned last episode, one of my Patreon members reach out and say, actually I'm not even sure it's a patron, I don't remember, um but reach out and say, hey, I hear here you're gonna be in the area.
00:35:16
Denis Tyrell
So I'm teaching his class for two days and then going to see Dave and Reko.
00:35:22
echo_blades
Nice.
00:35:23
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, it'll be a whole, seven whole days in Seattle or the Seattle area.
00:35:27
echo_blades
Cool.
00:35:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, so all that's finalized and flights are booked and hotels and It's, it's quite the, uh, quite the trip cause it's like three different hotels and rental car.
00:35:41
echo_blades
Very cool.
00:35:41
Denis Tyrell
And yeah, hopefully it's no snow up there by then, but we'll see. So yeah, lots, uh, but it's great cause one of the, the class that I'm teaching in March is, um, twice in March actually, the early one is a guards and handle class.
00:35:48
echo_blades
Exciting.
00:36:02
Denis Tyrell
which is also what I'm teaching in when I go up to Seattle. And that is also what I'm going to be doing along with Kumeye. I'm going to be doing at the Midwest Knifemakers Guild Hammer-in in Minneapolis.
00:36:17
echo_blades
I want to read that.
00:36:19
Denis Tyrell
That's in August.
00:36:20
echo_blades
Oh, I guess. Okay.
00:36:21
Denis Tyrell
August.
00:36:23
Denis Tyrell
And oh, by the way, yeah, I know I've been harassing you about going to play Texas. I can't go to play Texas because I'm teaching um teaching that weekend.
00:36:23
echo_blades
Cool.
00:36:28
echo_blades
Yeah, I know. I heard. I heard.
00:36:31
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:36:31
echo_blades
I still might go. Cause I like hanging out with, with Noah and Micah and Ryan better than you anyway.
00:36:37
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you should go.
00:36:38
echo_blades
So yeah.
00:36:39
Denis Tyrell
It's a good show. I like that show. I liked it better

Humorous Observations and Anecdotes

00:36:41
Denis Tyrell
than Utah.
00:36:43
echo_blades
I, yeah, yeah it it'll be, it's going to be hard for me to do because I think I'm going to be in, in Dallas like two weeks before for work. So I don't know if that's going to work out.
00:36:55
Denis Tyrell
And that's a, that's a, I don't know why they fucking do this. It's a Friday, Saturday show.
00:37:00
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:37:00
Denis Tyrell
Like, why are you making Saturday, Sunday? I don't get it.
00:37:02
echo_blades
Yeah. I don't know.
00:37:04
Denis Tyrell
It's weird.
00:37:05
echo_blades
I wish they would, if they did that, and I literally think I'm going to miss it by like a week. So if I do go, I'll be coming back and then going right back.
00:37:18
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:37:18
echo_blades
It might be a little bit too much Texas for for me, but we'll see.
00:37:22
Denis Tyrell
Yep. But, um, so we're going to do some forging this week before I go, or you got other plans.
00:37:30
echo_blades
Yeah, no, I think we are.
00:37:32
Denis Tyrell
All right.
00:37:32
echo_blades
Cause you know what I need to do is bust out my two bastards fat pain. Cause it's been sitting all nicely stored in a bag in my forging bag after being repeatedly beat on for so long.
00:37:47
echo_blades
Cause you got to beat your pain like all day long.
00:37:47
Denis Tyrell
know
00:37:49
echo_blades
And if you put it away, it starts to act funny. So, uh, yeah, if you're interested in a, uh, in a,
00:37:53
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:37:57
echo_blades
in a hammer, you got to go check out Frank and need at two bastards hammer and get yourself a fat pain. They got all the pains that you need straight cross diagonal, crooked, curvy, wavy, all of it. So go check that out because, you know, Dennis always says.
00:38:13
Denis Tyrell
Ain't it grand to have a fat pain in your hand. Sometimes you need two hands.
00:38:17
echo_blades
I'll. That's right. if If you're in Jamaica and a urinal.
00:38:25
echo_blades
Sorry.
00:38:26
Denis Tyrell
Uh, yes, I will be, I plan on, I'm going to use that, uh, 10 80 railroad spike I got from, uh, Mr. Jeff Dauterman at, uh, um, makers camp. I think I'm going to forge that in a knife. I've never made a railroad spike knife. So I think this will be fun.
00:38:45
echo_blades
Yeah, no, I think I'm enjoying doing that then because I actually purchased a couple of them from Lawrence and that was something else. Like the day before I left, I got this pretty big shipment from from Lawrence for I got all kinds of quarter inch steel. I got two of those 1080 railroads spikes. I got a bunch of shit. And I was just walking in my shop a second ago, which I got another great story.
00:39:11
echo_blades
Um, I saw this box on the table. I'm like, what the heck is this? And I looked at, I'm like, Oh my God, this is, I must've been planning on like doing a reel or something about it, uh, before I had left and never got to it.
00:39:22
echo_blades
But yeah, I had a pretty big order, uh, from Lawrence before I left.
00:39:26
Denis Tyrell
nice
00:39:27
echo_blades
Um, and then, um, but I go back kind of out into my shop and. When I came home, I go in the shop and there's, my son has a fishing bag, like a backpack fishing tackle bag.
00:39:40
echo_blades
Um, and it's laying on the ground right next to my fridge. And I look at it and it's kind of like half open, but he had like a bag of chips or something left inside of the bag.
00:39:45
Denis Tyrell
Nice.
00:39:51
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
00:39:52
echo_blades
And I look and I'm like, what the fuck? And there's like lures and Senko worms and shit all spread on the ground and like package ripping out. And I, it takes me a second. I realized that I got another fucking critter.
00:40:06
echo_blades
I got another critter in my shop.
00:40:09
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, he's 16.
00:40:09
echo_blades
He had, yeah, besides him, ah but the, the critter had got into the bag and started ripping all of the, like getting into the, the, like the lures, like I said, and ripped open the bag of chips.
00:40:12
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:40:22
echo_blades
And there was probably nothing but crumbs in it anyways, but there's shit all over the ground. And then it was like, I look and other further, there's fucking little mouse turds everywhere. I'm like, mother. So I'm like, okay. All right. I'll, I gotta figure that out and get some traps going and stuff like that this morning. We're getting ready to go to work. And cause I didn't do shit this weekend. Right. So and captain put it to the last minute. Uh, we're getting ready for work and something goes off, uh, um, the toaster and some shit. The the breaker flips.
00:40:58
echo_blades
And I'm like, God damn it. So I go outside, flip the light on and my breaker is behind the, it's that that black fridge, the, the, the, the breakers behind that.
00:41:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:41:08
echo_blades
So I, every time I gotta go to the breaker, I gotta move the the big fridge out of the way. And I go and I fucking yank the fridge out of the way. I'll be a son of a bitch, Dennis.
00:41:20
echo_blades
If a fucking mouse didn't jump off from the top of the fridge against the wall,
00:41:27
Denis Tyrell
I would have, I would have paid so much money to have that video juice.
00:41:30
echo_blades
Oh my God, dude, it was in it. It is a decent size and a rat. It's a mouse, but it was a pretty plumpy little fucker.
00:41:37
Denis Tyrell
Did you scream like a girl?
00:41:39
echo_blades
Dude, I, I fucking it was not.
00:41:43
Denis Tyrell
Oh, God, that would have been so good.
00:41:44
echo_blades
Oh my God. I was like, he just, it was like slow motion though. I can like see him. he He had like a little chef's hat on and like Remy from the Disney movie. like
00:41:57
echo_blades
What's going on? Do I got attacked by Remy? He falls on the ground. He's all fucking his hair's all disheveled and shit like that. And I, I couldn't even like, I was frozen. Like I couldn't even like kick at it or do anything.
00:42:09
echo_blades
And then it scurries off and I'm like, holy shit.
00:42:12
Denis Tyrell
You woke up on a bed.
00:42:13
echo_blades
So yeah. Yeah.
00:42:15
Denis Tyrell
Jeez.
00:42:15
echo_blades
I was like, how dare, but I'm like, why are you up on the top of the fridge, dude? Like what? I don't know what's going on up there. So now I gotta exterminate some more rodents out of my shop.
00:42:28
Denis Tyrell
Well, you heard last episode with Kyle, what I found in the shop.
00:42:32
echo_blades
No, I don't recall.
00:42:34
Denis Tyrell
Okay. So, you know, where on my, my main work table, you know, where the sandpaper is the roles of the sandpaper, yeah a two inch, like lay it leg to leg, a two inch black widow, biggest black go to I've ever seen anvil bigger.
00:42:36
echo_blades
I'm.
00:42:38
echo_blades
Yes. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:42:47
echo_blades
Even bigger than the one that was in the. ah Yeah. Oh wow.
00:42:52
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Bigger.
00:42:54
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:42:54
Denis Tyrell
And it's like right where I put my feet when I'm standing.
00:42:57
echo_blades
ah
00:43:00
echo_blades
And you're a freaking hippie too. You wear those sandals sometimes.
00:43:03
Denis Tyrell
Not anymore.
00:43:04
echo_blades
Gross.
00:43:07
Denis Tyrell
He's probably got a whole brood of baby spiders back there now.
00:43:11
echo_blades
Oh God, that's horrific. That's horrific. I don't know. I just walked out there this afternoon to do something. I don't know. And I'm every yeah got my heads on the swivel. I'm like, Oh my God.
00:43:26
Denis Tyrell
ah Mice are just annoying. They're not like scary. They get, they're not going to hurt you. yet
00:43:30
echo_blades
No, I understand that.
00:43:31
Denis Tyrell
just
00:43:32
echo_blades
They're just they're scary.
00:43:33
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:43:35
echo_blades
They're going to scare the shit out of me because he's got a fucking chef hat on, dude. I don't know what's going on.
00:43:42
Denis Tyrell
Oh, what?
00:43:43
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:43:44
Denis Tyrell
Oh yeah. I forgot to tell you, um, when I was doing the, the dual Bowie knife builds today, I was working on guards and I use those belts that, um, those blue belts.
00:43:57
echo_blades
Yes.
00:43:58
Denis Tyrell
I don't know. I don't know how to describe them or what brand they are, but, um, I used one and it said 400 on the back.
00:44:08
Denis Tyrell
So I'm assuming it was 400 and, uh, it lasted. about hopefully these are from maritime or whatever, he doesn't make them.
00:44:16
echo_blades
No, they're not.
00:44:19
Denis Tyrell
Okay, so to be fair, I had it on, I put it on a small wheel. First I put it on a platen, like without, a like a slack platen, because I was doing, I was trying to, I was trying to sand a guard.
00:44:33
Denis Tyrell
um There's some curves I had to do. So and then i I needed to do the back of the curve of the, of the, you know the whatever the horn of the guard of the guard whatever you call it um and i put it on the small wheel and uh it took probably about 90 seconds and it pulled the belt like where the seam was on that belt fucking sheared it it was hitting me and then all of a sudden gone yeah so either don't put them on a small wheel or maybe i just
00:44:43
echo_blades
yeah
00:44:56
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:45:01
echo_blades
Oh geez.
00:45:05
echo_blades
I think there, that I think if I remember correctly there, they were called machine polishing belts. So I think they're probably only made for Slack and they go up to like ridiculous high grids.
00:45:15
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:45:19
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I think you had one that said 2000 on it.
00:45:21
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:45:22
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:45:23
echo_blades
So.
00:45:23
Denis Tyrell
So it was probably my fault, but and yeah, if you use those and I actually, the tension on my small wheel is pretty high too. So that probably didn't help, but they did work.
00:45:31
echo_blades
Oh, okay. um Until it popped.
00:45:33
Denis Tyrell
It was working great, but like district, cause it started like going and flapping. And then I looked and like part of it was like peeled up from the backing and it was hitting me every time.
00:45:42
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:45:45
Denis Tyrell
But it was working.
00:45:48
echo_blades
That sucks.
00:45:48
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. And I, and I did had to redo a handle today, which I was not pleased about. I haven't drilled through a handle in a long time. And, uh, when I was drilling, I guess the hole for the, the tang, I guess when I was, you know, when you carve it with the, the bit sometimes, I guess I went too far down.
00:46:07
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:46:09
Denis Tyrell
And then when I put that curve, I always put on the back of the handle. Fucking right through the back.
00:46:15
echo_blades
Oh, shit.
00:46:16
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I was not. It was a few curse words and had to redo that hole is a piece of iron wood.
00:46:20
echo_blades
Was it a good piece of wood?
00:46:23
Denis Tyrell
So not, I had like five others.
00:46:23
echo_blades
Oh.
00:46:27
Denis Tyrell
So it's not, wasn't the end of the world. It's like an hour to get back to where I was.
00:46:29
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:46:32
echo_blades
Hmm. That sucks.
00:46:35
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. But I'm trying to get that bill. Those two things are identical. So it's the same guard, the same spacer, the same handle configuration, all that stuff.
00:46:45
Denis Tyrell
So I can't just like randomly put a just, no, just doing them.
00:46:48
echo_blades
And why are you doing these knives? This is a, a it's not an order.
00:46:54
Denis Tyrell
No, I just made this nickel, um, nickel, go my lead Damascus cladded nickel, go my awhile ago.
00:46:55
echo_blades
Oh, okay.
00:47:04
Denis Tyrell
And I saw it in the drawer and I figured out I would start doing it. But I would say in the last episode, like these are the ones like I'm spending a lot of time on these like more than I would have.
00:47:15
echo_blades
Oh, that's right.
00:47:16
Denis Tyrell
These are the ones I'm trying to like make master quality.
00:47:17
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:47:22
Denis Tyrell
I don't know if I'm going to get there, but I'm hoping I'm going to bring these two to Dave and have him review these two.
00:47:22
echo_blades
Gotcha. Gotcha.
00:47:31
Denis Tyrell
Just to see how that's one of the goals of these two and probably. I don't know if I'll get it. Oh yeah, no, I'll get it done in time. It's the end of March, is the either the keyhole or the the other buoy build that I'm working on, the Damascus one.
00:47:46
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:47:48
Denis Tyrell
So that one will be done by then too.
00:47:50
echo_blades
Okay.
00:47:51
Denis Tyrell
So I'd like to have three knives to bring down. I'm going for an actual course. I'm doing, fuck, what's it called? um Frame handle, doing a frame handle buoy.
00:48:05
echo_blades
Oh, gotcha.
00:48:06
Denis Tyrell
So one of those is going to be the blade of the frame handle. So also I'll see what I do.
00:48:14
echo_blades
Gotcha. Well, cool. You a little lesson taker, you.
00:48:18
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:48:23
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Wanted to get some, I wanted actually wanted to take one from Salem, but he's just, he's like five and a half hours from. Um, he's like Southeast Washington.
00:48:37
Denis Tyrell
And if I'm going to be there for like, yeah, he probably is.
00:48:39
echo_blades
Oh, maybe I got to figure that out. Cause he's probably closer to ah my work area. Then um I go to Vancouver, which is just, yeah, it was just just on the other side of Portland.
00:48:52
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, he probably is closer because he's, um, no, wait, like I could be thinking of.
00:48:59
echo_blades
No, I don't think I see no, no, no, it was in the middle.
00:48:59
Denis Tyrell
I looked at Noah. No, he's sorry. of He's upper. Noah's in the bottom right and known. Yeah, but like East.
00:49:06
echo_blades
Cause he's like four hours. He's like four hours from wherever I am.
00:49:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:49:09
echo_blades
I hit him up.
00:49:10
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:49:10
echo_blades
I was like, I'm going to be in the area. He's like, yeah, no, you're not. We're not close.
00:49:14
Denis Tyrell
Because he's he's like three hours, two and a half hours from Seattle.
00:49:14
echo_blades
I was like, gotcha. Okay.
00:49:19
Denis Tyrell
But it's he's the one that's in kind of the bottom of like of the map I was looking at. Sorry. Salem is up in the upper right, like near so near Spokane, I think.
00:49:26
echo_blades
Gotcha. Say long spoken. Yeah, sorry.
00:49:28
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:49:29
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:49:30
Denis Tyrell
So it was far, like not far enough that I couldn't do that in another class.
00:49:35
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:49:35
Denis Tyrell
Cause it'd be like two travel days and that was just too long. So.
00:49:40
echo_blades
i was cool I did some fishing up there in Washington when I was there ah before I left. We had a ah team building exercise and we went out to some lake, I can't even remember the name of the little, they it was the guy that, what?
00:49:47
Denis Tyrell
Oh yeah. Yeah. Wasn't like Washington, was it? Was it Lake Washington?
00:50:00
echo_blades
No, no, it wasn't like Washington.
00:50:00
Denis Tyrell
no
00:50:02
echo_blades
I'm not gonna be able to pull it because I i need to, but ah the the guide that we went with
00:50:07
Denis Tyrell
No.
00:50:08
echo_blades
was like hesitant to even go out with us because I guess during this time of year, there's not much. There's not many options to go. um Yeah, like the kind of because it's a big salmon area.
00:50:18
Denis Tyrell
Like a fish to catch you mean? Yeah.
00:50:23
echo_blades
And but we're just not in season for that. So um we it was like a little small salmon trout looking thing, a cochlea or God, I can't remember the name of the fish.
00:50:37
echo_blades
Um, but, uh, we just went out on this lake and controlled, dude, it was the absolute, the, the most, the coldest I've ever been on a boat.
00:50:50
echo_blades
There was, it was a big ass lake air was fucking white caps. Like it was windy as fuck. Like, and we were out there all day. It was like, I love fishing. I, it's one of my favorite things to do. And that took push the limits there. Like how cold, I don't think it got over like 45 degrees the entire day. And we were out there when it was in the low, the high thirties and.
00:51:16
echo_blades
was when we took off. and But it was cool. It was fun.
00:51:19
Denis Tyrell
It doesn't sound, it doesn't sound that cool.
00:51:19
echo_blades
We caught a lot of fish. weve we found We caught a lot of fish though. like The fish were, the action was fun, huh?
00:51:25
Denis Tyrell
And they're all trout. A lot of, they're all trout.
00:51:29
echo_blades
It was like a trout-salmony mix.
00:51:32
Denis Tyrell
Hmm.
00:51:32
echo_blades
I'll try to remember to figure out the name, but it was like the only thing that was that was biting there ah during that time. But we had to We didn't have enough spots to fill the whole boat, but we had to pay for the whole boat just for the guy to come out.
00:51:45
echo_blades
You know, because like you said, he was like, yeah, it's not really worth it unless that happens.
00:51:45
Denis Tyrell
Of course.
00:51:50
echo_blades
But that was fun. It was good. It was a good time. It was just freezing, though. Fucking freezing.
00:51:55
Denis Tyrell
You're such a fucking California.
00:51:57
echo_blades
It was cold. It was fun.
00:51:58
Denis Tyrell
What'd you say?
00:51:59
echo_blades
The guys that were the local guys were like miserable, too. It was not it was a it was it was a cold day on the lake. dude So I didn't feel so bad. I believe me, I will raise my hand. I'm a bitch.
00:52:12
Denis Tyrell
When I was a kid, I remember my dad taking me ice fishing and I fucking hated it because it was so cold. We weren't like. you know, fancy enough to have one of the little sheds.
00:52:24
Denis Tyrell
We were just standing on the ice shivering.
00:52:26
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:52:27
Denis Tyrell
I hated it.
00:52:27
echo_blades
I knew when we went, when we were on our way back to the, uh, to the doc, It was like, I might have to show you, but it was like, yeah I mean, we were like fucking up the, it was the the fucking waves coming over.
00:52:44
echo_blades
Like everybody was, everybody was, I'm telling you, I felt like we're on the goddamn ocean.
00:52:44
Denis Tyrell
You're in a lake, right? Not the ocean.
00:52:49
echo_blades
It was, everybody was soaked to the bone from all the fucking, the spray from everything coming right. It was, it was horrible too. That part was, that was, it was not a good way to end it, but
00:52:59
Denis Tyrell
Did you guys keep any fish or was it all like catch release?
00:53:01
echo_blades
We gave it all to, to one of, uh, the, the local guys that we were fishing with that live up there.
00:53:07
Denis Tyrell
ah
00:53:08
echo_blades
Yeah. I mean, yeah, like, barin it was a lot of fish. We caught like, I think our limit was 30 and we had every bit of that.
00:53:17
Denis Tyrell
Wow.
00:53:17
echo_blades
So it was a lot of fish.
00:53:20
Denis Tyrell
So did you have to get a, ah like a one day fishing license for Washington?
00:53:21
echo_blades
but
00:53:25
echo_blades
yep oh Like bucks.
00:53:25
Denis Tyrell
How much was that?
00:53:30
Denis Tyrell
Oh, that's not bad.
00:53:31
echo_blades
No, it wasn't bad. oh The company paid for it. So I wasn't like, I had to get it. But yeah.
00:53:35
Denis Tyrell
Because ah if I get an extra day and I can course, uh, Dave to go fishing, but he's a big fishing guy.
00:53:40
echo_blades
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Do it.
00:53:43
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:53:43
echo_blades
and I just don't know what's what's what's popping there. We're talking about going back for for salmon time because.
00:53:49
Denis Tyrell
there he He just did a video. He just put a video a couple of days ago of a dude steelhead.
00:53:54
echo_blades
Oh, nice.
00:53:56
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. It's, uh, I think, I don't know if he was.
00:53:57
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:53:59
Denis Tyrell
grandson son, I don't think it was a son pretty young with this big giant steelhead in his hands.
00:54:06
echo_blades
Oh, nice.
00:54:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:54:08
echo_blades
I do know that Walmarts aren't unique to the people watching. That that is ah that is everywhere.
00:54:16
Denis Tyrell
What that is a weird segue.
00:54:20
echo_blades
she didn't Washington, because that's where I got my fishing license.
00:54:25
Denis Tyrell
Oh, won okay.
00:54:25
echo_blades
We flew in that night and we ended up going to a Walmart at like 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock at night and it was his only thing that was open. And yeah, the people watching was fantastic there.
00:54:37
echo_blades
Washington, I, this was, there was, I've seen a lot of shit living in, in the Bay area, right? In Oakland, uh, the homeless, you know, in the transient community is plentiful here. I have never in my life have I ever seen a camp on the, on the, the exit, you know, the the turnaround after you get off the freeway, there was a camp in the middle and they had a fucking bonfire going in the middle, uh, right across kitty corner from the, from the Walmart.
00:55:06
Denis Tyrell
Really.
00:55:07
echo_blades
Yeah, like open flame, like hope yeah I was like, where am I at, dude? Like, I swear I got on a plane and left the Bay area, you know, but apparently I landed back in it.
00:55:19
echo_blades
So.
00:55:19
Denis Tyrell
Oh, okay. I got to tell you stories. So when I went back to Canada in December, I guess, uh, Guelph, the small town outside of Toronto, where I'm from, uh, small towns, like 200,000 people, but, um, downtown Guelph.
00:55:35
Denis Tyrell
I guess they had a homeless encampment downtown, right beside the Eaton center in down for like three weeks. There was a homeless camp downtown.
00:55:45
echo_blades
Oh.
00:55:47
Denis Tyrell
Like we're talking like, like the central square downtown. That's where they had the, yeah, it was bizarre.
00:55:52
echo_blades
Oh.
00:55:55
echo_blades
Oh. That was a convention.
00:55:58
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. So, you know, you think about if you're, if you're going to be homeless, like, pick somewhere warm like the Bay area. Don't pick Canada, but I guess you don't have a choice.
00:56:08
echo_blades
Yeah. I agree.
00:56:12
Denis Tyrell
But anyway, I do have, I do have a funny Rick story.
00:56:13
echo_blades
ah
00:56:16
Denis Tyrell
You want to hear one?
00:56:18
echo_blades
Yes.
00:56:20
Denis Tyrell
So, so my buddy Rick, he must be getting old because he, he bought a new, he must be, he bought a new mill.
00:56:25
echo_blades
He must be.
00:56:31
Denis Tyrell
He's going to kill me for telling the story. He bought a new mill, right? And the thing weighs like 2000 pounds.
00:56:37
echo_blades
No, that's good. Cause that fucker fucking dug me pretty good in the opening of that first sentence. it's something but yeah we're gonna i can't get him shut up This is what you get fucker.
00:56:49
echo_blades
Come on, tell me.
00:56:49
Denis Tyrell
So, so he gets a rental company and he's getting a forklift in order to move this mill. And he gets on the phone with the guy and he's fucking bitching him out.
00:57:00
Denis Tyrell
Like where the fuck is my my forklift? It's fucking 11 o'clock. You guys are supposed to be here at 10. And the guy said, yeah, we're supposed to be there at 10 on Thursday.
00:57:11
Denis Tyrell
And he goes, well, fucking today's Thursday. And he's like, no, today's Wednesday. We'll see you tomorrow.
00:57:19
Denis Tyrell
And Rick goes, oh, yeah, it is Wednesday.
00:57:22
echo_blades
Let me go back to taking my nap.
00:57:28
Denis Tyrell
Uh, he told me that story. I'm like, man, you are getting old.
00:57:33
echo_blades
Oh, that's good.
00:57:35
Denis Tyrell
Uh, but he did show me the, uh, the mill.
00:57:35
echo_blades
ah Very cool.
00:57:38
Denis Tyrell
It's all set up now. It looks nice. I'm envious of a giant mill like that, but oh, well, it's like a big, it's like a, like a bridge.
00:57:45
echo_blades
I don't know which kind of he got, but bridge, like a bridge port.
00:57:50
Denis Tyrell
but It's not an actual bridge group. It's like a bridge port, a big email.
00:57:54
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:57:55
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. And, and fucker. He called me today and he goes, he was like gloating of like all the new tools he just bought. Uh, he just bought a pantograph and, um, one of those filing machines with the file that goes up and down.
00:58:09
Denis Tyrell
You know what I you mean?
00:58:10
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:11
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. You just bought one of those too for like 50 bucks or 80 bucks or it was less than a hundred.
00:58:15
echo_blades
Whoa.
00:58:18
Denis Tyrell
Like you asshole.
00:58:18
echo_blades
Oh, oh shit. Yeah, I did. I, while I was out on my cruise floating around in the, in the, in the water, I ordered a, um, a rotary platen from a mare blade and yeah, and got it, uh, got it all hooked up and ready.
00:58:30
Denis Tyrell
Yes, I saw the, saw the video.
00:58:36
echo_blades
That's I'm, I am stoked for that. That thing's cheap mode. That thing is cheap mode. Like, what have I been doing? Like, Why? Why is it taking me this long?
00:58:47
Denis Tyrell
Between that and, uh, so I'm, um, you know, I've said many times, I don't like doing chef knives that much, but now I got to do another chef knife because I have the,
00:58:59
Denis Tyrell
the Tobin jig plus the rotary platen.
00:59:01
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:59:04
Denis Tyrell
So the S grinds will be super easy. um The edge grind is going to be super easy because of the rotary platen jig combo. Yeah, it is like a cheat code.
00:59:14
echo_blades
Oh, we're dialed. and I love, I love making the chef. That's, that's like my jam right now. And this just but after I used the Tobin jig and the rotary pot and then you had, I was like, this is, this is where it's at.
00:59:28
echo_blades
I got so many comments are like, Oh yeah, I love mine.
00:59:28
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:59:30
echo_blades
And business this is, this is, this is like, yeah.
00:59:32
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. What took you so long?
00:59:34
echo_blades
What the fuck, man.
00:59:36
Denis Tyrell
Well, that's funny because I remember it was now two years ago.
00:59:37
echo_blades
So.
00:59:41
Denis Tyrell
We saw Mareko use it at maker camp. Or is it three years ago?
00:59:45
echo_blades
Yeah, I, I, I think that's good. That kind of brings up a good point. Like there's for me anyways, being newer, you know, there's like times where I realized that I had amazing opportunities to, to witness things like Mareko's demo, the very first makers camp that we went to, where he, he forged a knife from, from micro billet.
01:00:08
echo_blades
Right. I watched it all. I saw it, how much comprehension I had and like true comprehension.
01:00:13
Denis Tyrell
yeah
01:00:15
echo_blades
very minimal and then watching him, you know, grind and, and with the, with the rotary platen and the way he did all that stuff. It's like, I remember seeing it, but like, I think today it would be an entirely different experience to, to watch those kind of that kind of demo.
01:00:33
echo_blades
Cause of, you know, how I progressed and what I'm more, how much more exposure I've had to those types of of things.
01:00:35
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:00:40
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:00:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, absolutely. Even then back then I didn't. It didn't occur to me to ask him, and even I had the question in my head. I'm like, well, why, why is the rotary plant and what does it do for you?
01:00:52
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:00:52
Denis Tyrell
That like, why not a regular plant? Like what's the difference?
01:00:56
echo_blades
All right.
01:00:56
Denis Tyrell
Is it just heat dissipation? Is it? So now I get it. It's, it's got a, it's got a little flex to it. You can change it to a slack. Um, and it doesn't build up a lot of heat because that plant, that rubber over the plant rotates.
01:01:09
echo_blades
That's odd. that I remember you kept you kept saying that, but I've been getting a lot of ah comments and suggestions on on doing something to actually cool it down because it does generate a lot of heat.
01:01:21
echo_blades
like the platen chiller or somebody suggested like putting a like a worn, um, scotch bright behind it to kind of, uh, in between the platen and the, and the rubber to kind of help with that too.
01:01:21
Denis Tyrell
I didn't find...
01:01:37
echo_blades
Um, but, uh, or a misting system, uh, chill platen chiller and, uh, something other, but I've had actually quite a few recommendations on stuff to, to help you know, keep the heat down because it can get hot.
01:01:51
echo_blades
But I didn't experience it with when I used the one at your place.
01:01:52
Denis Tyrell
Hmm.
01:01:56
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. I have the Broadback one. I don't think it's like any revolutionary different design than the Ameribride one.
01:02:01
echo_blades
Yeah, heat dissipating. Yeah, yeah.
01:02:03
Denis Tyrell
But just the notion that it's rolling over rollers instead of just dragging a belt across a platen. I mean, I guess the rubber friction um over the platen.
01:02:15
echo_blades
King. can build up some heat. Yeah. I guess that's part of it, too, is like to to to preserve the life of that that rubber belt.
01:02:23
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:02:24
echo_blades
um Keeping it cool can help.
01:02:25
Denis Tyrell
But again, if, you if you're using the slack portions, it should be really cool.
01:02:28
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:02:29
Denis Tyrell
It should stay very cool because there's no, there's pretty much no friction.
01:02:30
echo_blades
Yeah, I agree.
01:02:34
echo_blades
Yeah, but I was.
01:02:34
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:02:36
echo_blades
Yeah, I'm stoked. i um I'm glad I did it. It's here. I'm ready to to get busy on it.
01:02:42
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Get busy.
01:02:43
echo_blades
Yeah, you get busy.
01:02:45
Denis Tyrell
Speaking of getting busy. Uh, I got busy with some Pelican paste. I did the, that sheath for that, um, puzzle piece, buoy knife.
01:02:56
Denis Tyrell
And I, I slathered that thing in Pelican paste, um, did the edges turned out really nice.
01:02:56
echo_blades
nice
01:03:02
echo_blades
Nice.
01:03:02
Denis Tyrell
Pelican paste for the wind. So, uh, get yourself some Pelican paste, hard soft wax. I got some of my teeth, apparently Pelican oil, hand salves, soap, um,
01:03:12
echo_blades
What the fuck?
01:03:17
Denis Tyrell
You name it. He's got it and it smells like oranges. That's the best part.
01:03:21
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:03:21
Denis Tyrell
Um, so it ah get yourself some Pelican pace.
01:03:22
echo_blades
I don't want to know. Go ahead.
01:03:25
Denis Tyrell
Use the discount code triple T 10. That's TTT 10 Noah.
01:03:30
echo_blades
I want to see if anybody actually picked up on that joke. What in the, what in the flock ah dad jokes for the wind.
01:03:34
Denis Tyrell
what
01:03:39
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. yeah
01:03:41
echo_blades
Actually, while we were on the plane, I don't know which plane it was. It doesn't really matter. But Lynn, Mrs. Echo blades pulled out her personal, uh, hand salve tin that Travis had center and we lathered up against all the dirty germs that are present on the plane.
01:04:04
echo_blades
But I thought that was pretty cool. I did. ah I think I did a post ah for, you know, public and based. Don't leave home without it.
01:04:13
Denis Tyrell
And you smelled like oranges.
01:04:14
echo_blades
And I smell like oranges. Yeah.
01:04:17
Denis Tyrell
Nice.
01:04:17
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:04:18
Denis Tyrell
Well, you got to get your ass back in gear and get back to that knife with the grip tech scales on it. I want to see it finished.
01:04:24
echo_blades
Yes. Yes. I know it's going to a really good home, too, when I get done, but
01:04:29
Denis Tyrell
Damn right it is.
01:04:30
echo_blades
Yes, and you're looking for a yeah a grippy tech, a different feel for your handle scales. Go check out Rock Solid Scales. They got the grip tech and many other products there to add a little extra flair and comfort to your handles. um And you can use the discount code TTT10 to get 10% off your next purchase there as well.
01:04:58
echo_blades
So awesome.
01:04:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, Kyle and I were talking about that stuff for a while. he's I guess he's ah also a sponsor um for them. So yeah, he's all over the place.
01:05:07
echo_blades
Yeah, no, that's getting busy, man. I'm seeing them all over the place. I'm seeing a lot of, a lot of content from people using the stuff and we're happy to have them on board and, um, we'll, uh, go get you some for sure.
01:05:21
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. All right. Let's do maker spotlight.
01:05:24
echo_blades
Okay.
01:05:26
Denis Tyrell
All right. Who you got?
01:05:28
echo_blades
What if I don't want to say what I got? Now I got a good one here. um i got my My guy here is ah is ah is a friend of mine and a maker that I have looked up to for a long time. I've learned a fucking metric fuck ton through conversations and examples. um And he is actually the proud owner of ah of an EchoBlades. He was probably the first maker actually to um to show the actual interest and and and get one in his hands so i got mr nick tobin from pickle cutters if you guys are not following nick um i don't know where the hell living these days but You need to go check him out. ah He has seven thousand two hundred and eighty followers and just does awesome stuff. Makes his own still watching him start making Damascus and Kumai's to the things that he's putting out now. It's really cool. um And he's always coming up with different style and knives, you know,
01:06:36
echo_blades
Does have some flagship stuff, but I just love is the the innovation and the and the way he is always doing different things and, you know, pushing the envelope there.
01:06:47
echo_blades
So go check out Pickle Cutters. That's Pickle underscore K-U-T-T-E-R-Z.
01:06:56
Denis Tyrell
It's a Z, right? Cause, uh, okay.
01:06:58
echo_blades
Z. Yeah.
01:07:00
Denis Tyrell
Neither one of them is coming out for me.
01:07:02
echo_blades
Pickle.
01:07:04
Denis Tyrell
Pickle.
01:07:05
echo_blades
Yeah. P I K or C K L E underscore K U T T.
01:07:08
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:07:10
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Underscore. You missed an underscore.
01:07:15
echo_blades
No, you did.
01:07:16
Denis Tyrell
Yes.
01:07:16
echo_blades
Cause I'm looking at it.
01:07:17
Denis Tyrell
No, i I'm reading your link in the notes is what I'm saying.
01:07:19
echo_blades
Oh,
01:07:22
echo_blades
oh
01:07:22
Denis Tyrell
I just clicked on the link. I'm like, that link's not working. And I know I followed Nick's.
01:07:25
echo_blades
Oh, Oh, I gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I actually typed that in. So that's a very, very good chance. Yes. You're right.
01:07:30
Denis Tyrell
Cause I would have copied it into the show notes.
01:07:32
echo_blades
Yeah. I was free balling.
01:07:35
Denis Tyrell
Free ball.
01:07:36
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:07:38
Denis Tyrell
All right. This week, as I, when I troll Instagram, I've been, I'm trying to get into the habit of copying, um, some profiles that i I don't recognize into my notes here.
01:07:49
echo_blades
Sure.
01:07:51
Denis Tyrell
And I found this one um and it goes by bird thirds. So bird, no underscore bird, thirds as in first, second, thirds.
01:08:03
Denis Tyrell
He's got 1221 followers. um His name is Ambrose Volkovsky.
01:08:10
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
01:08:11
Denis Tyrell
And he is in some city I'm not gonna try to pronounce in Australia and has just some some really cool folding knives.
01:08:22
Denis Tyrell
Of course, you'll know I'm...
01:08:23
echo_blades
Kuna Bara Bran.
01:08:26
Denis Tyrell
Cunabar... Cunabarabran, New South Wales, Australia. All right, I'm sure our Australian friends are gonna butcher us for that pronunciation, but yeah.
01:08:37
echo_blades
Eh, whatever, Toby, you don't even live there anymore.
01:08:44
Denis Tyrell
He's laughing at it so I can hear it. um But um yeah yeah, bird thirds, check them out. Lots of really cool folders.
01:08:51
echo_blades
Oh, look at these pizza cutters, dude.
01:08:55
Denis Tyrell
I knew you were gonna look at those.
01:08:55
echo_blades
Oh my goodness. That thing is bad ass.
01:08:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, a lot of chef knives. um so Oh yeah, you go down, there's like a lightning bolt pizza gutter down below.
01:09:02
echo_blades
Oh, he's keyholes. Yeah. with us with a holder, like a stand.
01:09:09
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:09:09
echo_blades
That thing's badass.
01:09:11
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, some cool stuff. So yeah, go check them out.
01:09:15
echo_blades
Oh, that's really cool. That's a good one, Dennis.
01:09:17
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah, I get good once, once in a while.
01:09:18
echo_blades
Good for you. Yeah, every now and again. Oh yeah.
01:09:26
echo_blades
Yeah, if you're not following this dude, which I am not and I am now, that's a good one.
01:09:32
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, give our Australian brothers ah a lift every once in a while.
01:09:36
echo_blades
Yeah. So I got, I got, I got a funny story too. So while I was gone, um, I, and one of the islands was, you know, under previously under British rule or whatever, they had, uh, you know, a lot of rum on these islands, right? And there was something called like puffners or puffers, rum or some shit like that. So I, I took a picture that I sent it over to Toby.
01:10:02
echo_blades
I'm like, what in the hell are you fuckers doing? Like what, what is this? It's very close to another word that we can use your imagination. pufferss are And, uh, poofers.
01:10:14
Denis Tyrell
um
01:10:16
echo_blades
Uh, God, I can't, I can't remember exactly what it was. so And I sent it to him just to, you know, to send it and I get this fucking super Toby message back. Like. I don't know what the fuck this is, mate.
01:10:27
echo_blades
Like you ever heard of Google and it's just like this.
01:10:31
Denis Tyrell
He didn't get it was a joke.
01:10:33
echo_blades
Yeah. I don't know what the fuck he was thinking, man. But I was like, you know, I, I had to clarify to him a couple of times, like, listen, let's just get, let this get this clear. If I ever ask you something, I've chosen not to Google this and I'm, and and I'm asking you directly.
01:10:47
echo_blades
Like I don't need you to, to, you know, specify that there's a, you know, a way for me to figure this out on my own. I'm, I'm asking cause I want. you know, you to tell me. And, um, that turns into this whole thing. And I actually listened to, uh, one of the last, um, fire and still podcasts and they were, honor was going off about like how stupid Americans are because there's, du we're so dumb because we have to say things for what they exactly are. Like a windshield.
01:11:19
echo_blades
And I'm like, so i've I hit him back and I'm like, what the fuck is this all about, dude? Like, like what what is, what is he all fired up for? And he's like, he goes onto this whole thing. He's like, well, the windshield is not, not the worst example. He's like, cause you know, that, that actually makes a little bit of sense. And he goes, well, we call it a windscreen.
01:11:36
echo_blades
I'm like, okay. But he's like, when you guys talk about, you know, when you call things like eyeglasses and horseback riding and, and, and and sidewalk, like, and he goes on to these examples about like, you know, like, cause obviously Americans are so stupid that if we didn't say we're the sidewalk, we'd walk in the middle of the street.
01:11:54
echo_blades
Or if we talk about horseback riding, we'd try to ride the horse's head or but like we wouldn't be on the back of the horse.
01:12:00
Denis Tyrell
well
01:12:03
echo_blades
We'd be like,
01:12:04
Denis Tyrell
I think we're the smart ones because we don't make up dumb names for shit that isn't what you're doing.
01:12:09
echo_blades
I was like, I was dumbfounded that somebody's actually put some thought into this, that it's like, it's that level of crazy, but, um, it was hilarious. The funniest part about it was Toby puts on like this super cheesy, it's probably the same accent that I do when I try to go, I might, you know, what was it? maybe But he is, he's like eyeglasses horseback riding.
01:12:32
echo_blades
Like super just put the American accent.
01:12:33
Denis Tyrell
but I've heard it. yeah
01:12:35
echo_blades
It was fucking hilarious. I must've listened to it like 15 times. Like I couldn't, I was sitting in my driveway, like literally like in stitches, like holding my stomach. I was laughing so hard, but, uh, yeah.
01:12:48
echo_blades
So yeah, don't, don't be a Toby, be a Ambrose. That's the that's moral of my story.
01:12:56
Denis Tyrell
he yeah he's He's a fake Australian. He doesn't live in Australia anymore.
01:12:59
echo_blades
Oh man. Oh, he's, he's a sweetheart. I love that guy.
01:13:04
Denis Tyrell
Oh, all right. Well, you got any more to say I'm done with you.
01:13:08
echo_blades
I do have some, yeah, I was sick of you when we started.
01:13:09
Denis Tyrell
I'm all right. I'm already, I'm already sick of you. You're only back for but what, what, what else?
01:13:17
echo_blades
That's why I said, I am so sorry.

Golf League and Community Support

01:13:20
echo_blades
Uh, two things here. One of them is probably not that interesting, but I just, I feel like since I have this platform, I will but will say this.
01:13:28
echo_blades
I did do a golf tournament this weekend. So I joined a golf league. So once a month is an excuse for me to actually make time.
01:13:36
Denis Tyrell
Not not be in the shop and do work.
01:13:38
echo_blades
Yeah, sure.
01:13:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I get it.
01:13:39
echo_blades
Sure. I enjoy other things, Dennis. You know, we all don't get to retire. Uh, so, um, the, uh, so it's an excuse to get me out at least once a month, right?
01:13:50
echo_blades
I really enjoy golf and I love it. My son and I do it and all that stuff, but I've been a guest in this with this group for probably a year and a half, two years, maybe I've been golfing with them as a guest.
01:14:03
echo_blades
So, um,
01:14:04
Denis Tyrell
Is that the one you've been bitching about not being invited to?
01:14:09
echo_blades
Um, no, I don't think so. I don't recall that because it's like, it's come on, come one, come all type things. So it's not exclusive.
01:14:19
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
01:14:20
echo_blades
I will say that, but, um, that was probably a work thing.
01:14:21
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
01:14:25
echo_blades
Um, the, uh, the fuck you took me off my, my path here. Oh, so I joined the club and, um, Jeff's been giving me a a handicap, right? So when I was golfing and I figured it all out now. So in 2018, prior to that, I think 2018 is when I kind of stopped, I guess golfing as much as I was. I was like two, three times a week.
01:14:48
echo_blades
Um, I had a handicap through a gin number through USDA. And, uh, apparently I was a lot better back then because I've been using a 30 handicap, which means it's roughly giving me 30 strokes as we play around so I can compete with everybody else. Um,
01:15:08
echo_blades
So when you join this league though, they re up your, your gym number and make it reactive. So I show up, uh, on Saturday and the guy goes, maybe you already had, a you already had a handicap and and it's, it's 19 19.2. And I'm like, no, no, no, no.
01:15:27
echo_blades
That is not the guy I am today. That may have been four, five, six, 10 years ago, but that is not who the fuck I am today. So I had to golf with a fucking, that's like a 90 golfer.
01:15:38
echo_blades
That's, that's pretty damn good for me anyways. I mean, you know, like, yeah, I think my lowest, the lowest I ever, I was, was like a 16.
01:15:41
Denis Tyrell
which I would love to be a 105 golf
01:15:50
echo_blades
And, um, but I ended up with a 19. So, um, Uh, at a 19, I shot 114 on and Saturday. so I tried to tell him, I'm like, you just watch at the end of this one and see if I'm sandbagging. Cause that's, that's the big thing. Like, you know, if you're golfing in tournaments, if you have a high handicap, you're it's cheating. If you, that's what sandbagging is. So, uh, yeah, apparently after my 114.
01:16:17
echo_blades
My handicap now today is 19.4. So apparently it takes several shitty rounds to affect your handicap. Cause the next tournament I'm still going to fucking not be right.
01:16:29
echo_blades
So, uh, I, I don't know. It's, it's more irritating to me than anything else. Also Reaper put out this fucking reel. I just came across like 20 minutes before we started recording.
01:16:39
Denis Tyrell
yeah i was good I saw your note, but I haven't seen it.
01:16:42
echo_blades
Yeah. Oh, it is spot the fuck on. ADHD, like I related to every single thing that is in that reel.
01:16:52
echo_blades
It's fantastic. Uh, just wanted to shout my boy out for, for representing us neurodivergence and such an awesome.
01:17:00
Denis Tyrell
What are you banging on?
01:17:02
echo_blades
Hmm.
01:17:03
Denis Tyrell
What are you banging?
01:17:03
echo_blades
Oh, I just slammed my can of two down. That's how passionate I am about this.
01:17:07
Denis Tyrell
Oh, is that what that was?
01:17:10
echo_blades
And secondly, thank you for all the people that reached out to me while I was gone and have asked about the trip. I feel super appreciated and loved. I missed you guys. And again, and my sincerest and deepest apologies for for stepping away for so long and keeping you with Dennis because that's, you don't deserve that. You guys deserve a lot better.
01:17:35
Denis Tyrell
Uh, uh, I will tell you, you know, like Kim's been doing these little, these little reels, which everyone seems to love the little knife wife reels.
01:17:44
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:17:44
Denis Tyrell
And I think I've created a monster and she she's bugging me to create reels like every day now, which is great.
01:17:51
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:17:51
Denis Tyrell
I mean, I love her enthusiasm.
01:17:52
echo_blades
I did see that. I did see that one.
01:17:54
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Uh, but we definitely got to get this knife wife podcast episode. I got another, another one. So I think it'll be a three of them. I think it'd be hilarious to have three knife wives on, on the podcast.
01:18:08
echo_blades
All right.
01:18:10
Denis Tyrell
So, uh, we're going to make it happen.
01:18:12
echo_blades
um Okay.
01:18:13
Denis Tyrell
Stay tuned, folks.
01:18:14
echo_blades
Stay tuned.
01:18:15
Denis Tyrell
You got to work on Lynn.
01:18:16
echo_blades
Yeah. so i i It'll be far more entertaining for everybody else to hear how great she thinks about me and my knife making.
01:18:26
Denis Tyrell
what
01:18:30
Denis Tyrell
Oh, and that's exactly why I think, I think.
01:18:33
echo_blades
Nah, man. We're about peace and love here. Peace and

Future Podcast Ideas: Featuring 'Knife Wives'

01:18:36
echo_blades
love. About to take the peace of the islands home with you, bruh.
01:18:36
Denis Tyrell
ah
01:18:39
echo_blades
Come on, man.
01:18:41
Denis Tyrell
he to lose your keys.
01:18:43
echo_blades
Yeah, I did. I wish I did.
01:18:47
Denis Tyrell
Oh man.
01:18:48
echo_blades
All right,
01:18:49
Denis Tyrell
All right.
01:18:52
echo_blades
no
01:18:57
Denis Tyrell
All right. Now I'm done with you.
01:18:59
echo_blades
right man. One more and then we'll get a real, real, real good episode here. So hurry up and leave my friend.
01:19:03
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. well Yeah. Have you figured out your co-host?
01:19:07
echo_blades
I have not, I have not.
01:19:09
Denis Tyrell
All right, Jared's taking applications.
01:19:11
echo_blades
All applications.
01:19:12
Denis Tyrell
It'd be good.
01:19:12
echo_blades
Anybody want to have a fantastic evening and and ah in an episode of Triple T where five people are going to listen to you.
01:19:21
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it it it's it it is not a roast Tyrell knife works episode, despite what Jared thinks.
01:19:26
echo_blades
I, every episode is a roast Tyro. I'm actually kind of disappointed. The only person that fucking handled business was Spencer, dude. Shout out to Spencer for calling you old in Santa Claus.
01:19:37
echo_blades
I fucking laughed so hard when he was like, well, it's true. You you do look older than Rick. So I said, yes.
01:19:45
Denis Tyrell
Uh, I take offense to that. Rick is much older than me.
01:19:49
echo_blades
Oh, it was good.
01:19:51
Denis Tyrell
Hey, I don't forget my appointments or what day it is.
01:19:52
echo_blades
It was good. Yeah, yeah.
01:19:58
echo_blades
You also don't have as many tools, so.
01:20:00
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's true.
01:20:01
echo_blades
All right, later.
01:20:01
Denis Tyrell
All right. Bye.
01:20:18
echo_blades
And that's a wrap.