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Why Your Fave Is Probably Evil: Stan Culture, and Parasocial Crimes- Episode 6
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From Twilight tears to Barb-level chaos, Ali and Khalil unpack the wild world of stan culture—where fans go from cute to cult real fast. We talk parasocial delusions, pop diva propaganda, celebrity marketing psyops, and why everyone’s fave is probably lowkey (or highkey) problematic. Also: DJ drama, techno snobbery, IVF babies, and Trixie Mattel beef. It’s a lot. Just press play.
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Transcript
Audio Challenges and Recording Setup
00:00:06
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on airplane modes open my notes tab okay i have a i like that did you highlight that that's cool how'd you do that that's why facetimed you and then i was like oh i have something to say that i didn't want to be on the podcast and then i forgot it don't know i just saw you were updating the notes on my laptop it like popped up oh cute cute cute it's recording now yes yeah it's recording okay sweet can you hear me good yes i hear you perfect it's much better Yay. cause like
00:00:37
Speaker
okay Sometimes well my audio was bad from AirPods, but like your wave your voice waves are so much bigger than mine. on like my Oh yeah, I'm looking at it too.
00:00:49
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It makes me feel insecure. i That's hilarious. like How have you been?
Work-life Balance and Life Hacks
00:00:57
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How's life? Chill. Yeah, that's...
00:01:06
Speaker
It's because I know, I know it has not been chill. actually has been like for like how, no, I actually mean that for how chaotic and crazy everything is. Like, I don't know people. i think people are very envious of my life in the way that I have no responsibilities.
00:01:21
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I have a job that pays pretty decently as like a single gay person. And it's also very easy and very flexible. And I have lots of time off.
00:01:32
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And being able to work from home. I literally have a life hack. Yeah. But I like, you know, it's more, it's never that simple. right but Right.
00:01:43
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Right. Right. way Absolutely.
DJ Gigs and Learning from Technical Issues
00:01:45
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I had a DJ gig yesterday. was very fun. but There were, there were some technical difficulties. But I feel about, cause you had beef with the producer of the show. So I'm going to clarify. First of all, love them.
00:02:01
Speaker
Ricardo is his name. In case you're listening to the pod, Ricardo, I'm so grateful for the opportunity. And thank you for taking a chance on me.
00:02:11
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Because he's actually the first gig I got when I first started. So like months and months and months ago, even before Leilat and Yalla Party, and another party I DJed.
00:02:22
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So I appreciate that he took that chance. I will say i felt like the technical setup was faulty. And because I was the opener, I took the brunt of like the issues.
00:02:36
Speaker
So we were like troubleshooting as I was DJing. So the first hour... I felt very disappointed because I'm a perfectionist and I know in my head what it sounded like and that's not what came across.
00:02:50
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And even though i like grilled every single person who showed up for me being like, could you notice? And which is annoying. I know that's annoying to do, but I really wanted feedback.
00:03:01
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And everyone was like, no, I didn't even notice. I'm like, I don't know if you're all lying to me. Like, in my head, it was, like, jarring. Like, I could tell something was wrong, you know?
00:03:13
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But then it got fixed. Then it got fixed, and I would say the end was solid. Lessons were learned.
Exploring Music Genres and DJing Adaptability
00:03:20
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I think that everyone's only greatest critic, and it probably wasn't as bad as you think.
00:03:27
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But also, no one cares as much about the music as much as the DJ. Specifically, so I was at a house party yesterday, and then I turned to a friend of mine and I was like because okay we like at the house party there's like open decks for like um all my friends are DJs and then one DJ was like playing like the regular gay techno blah blah blah and then the next DJ comes on and they're just like ping playing pop mixes and then I turned to my friend I was like low-key fuck techno like actually
00:03:59
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It's so crazy how if you're in the techno world, like the snobbery, the and it's over beats. It's just noises. Like there's not even fucking words like fuck you guys.
00:04:12
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Yeah. When people I need to finish when people are like up doing like trance music, whatever. I don't even know all the fucking types of genres and shit. And then your curating experience, like, it's really not that complicated. Like, yeah, fast music makes me feel excited.
00:04:28
Speaker
Slow music makes me feel sexy or chill. Like, you know what, like, let's bring it back to basics and like, appreciate like, that you know, like, you know, there's nothing wrong with playing girls just want to have fun at the club.
00:04:41
Speaker
Absolutely. I absolutely agree. I think there's a time and place to be silly and to like just inject humor. like I had a song yesterday that was called Pee on Me. And it's so it's so good. You should look it up.
00:04:54
Speaker
It's literally this like girl in the background being like, Pee on me. that It's just so good. But... Wait, where was I going with this?
00:05:05
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Oh, so I had a whole thing of music set up for this show. And then I advertised it on social media being like... get ready to like listen to this, like hard techno, because I enjoy techno.
00:05:19
Speaker
And then this promoter, the producer, like responded and was like, no, you ain't doing that. This is not a hard techno gig. And I was like, oh, fuck. like You're actually asking me three days before to change everything.
00:05:34
Speaker
So I did change a lot because I was like mindful. And I guess so his perspective, credit and to my like learning opportunity it does make sense if I'm gonna start the show like blasting i think it ruins the next set because they're gonna be playing calm music I don't even agree I don't agree at all yeah I don't know I just think it's I guess it's I don't respect yeah it should all make sense yeah but like I hate when it's like yeah fast low fast low fast low but like
00:06:10
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What was the party called again? Harder. like Okay, I'm not coming to Harder to listen to some slow jams and rap but i um like, sway in the wind to some trance shit.
00:06:22
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yeah I would walk into Harder expecting like, instance hardness. Yeah, that's what I that honestly, that was why I picked the tracks that I did. But honestly, also like lesson than learned, I should have asked ah way ahead of time being like, hey, what's the vibe?
00:06:38
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Like, what can I play? What should I play?
Sex Appeal vs Talent in Entertainment
00:06:40
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What do you want me to play? that but What you're describing is exactly why I don't just end up comedy anymore. And this is why I have a podcast. Like catering to the masses.
00:06:50
Speaker
Yeah. Unfortunately, if I want to keep getting gigs, I have to do what I'm told. ah You can just live stream DJ or just like film yourself DJing and just like. That's true.
00:07:00
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You're not willing to use your sex to feel enough, I think. Yeah. I feel like I, maybe there's a part of me that, I mean, I want to prove that I can do it without needing that. Who cares?
00:07:11
Speaker
Is this world about talent? Is this world about being good? is this world about literally any fucking skill at all? Look around. The meek shall inherit the earth. I learned something fucked up.
00:07:22
Speaker
Elon Musk fucking has... um ivf babies all ivf babies this man can't fuck he can't fuck at all and he's so fucking weird and such a fucking little loser and like he's gonna kill ah everybody and like we're all gonna die because of some weird virgin and then the problem is is that and like as terrifying as he is it's kind of fucking hilarious at the same time point being is like what what was the original point actually
00:07:55
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About talent, sex appeal. Yeah, who cares? Use your sex. It doesn't mean you don't have talent because you could have all the talent in the world and you could just like fucking die a hobo in the street. Like, no one cares. Yeah.
00:08:07
Speaker
I want to add about incel Musk that the fact... go ahead should we just like because elon musk does have stands so maybe we should just oh yeah okay okay let's skip that but i want to hate on grimes the fact that you had three ivf children with musk makes it so much weirder i thought there were less children it makes sense because i didn't i never understood how anyone was fucking him i didn't even know i was like because he has bloods on money money talks no but he doesn't fuck them that's crazy
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That's why they're IVF
Elon Musk, IVF, and Ethical Concerns
00:08:43
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kids. If he could fuck, he'd probably have. That's so weird. I think it's the money. I think he just pays them to hold the babies. that's kind like That's so fucking crazy.
00:08:53
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That's like that story of that one OBGYN doctor who was had an IVF clinic and he was giving women his sperm. Like instead of the sperm of the donor.
00:09:06
Speaker
And he had like hundreds of children. Oh, they all were getting donor sperm anyway? and No, they were getting his sperm. No, I know, but like they weren't. It's not like it'd be different. Oh, no, no, no. Some of them some of them were couples.
00:09:21
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Yeah. Like it was their ah sperm. Yeah. And then like many, many years later, the the children made the connection. Look it up. It's like a big story.
00:09:32
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And it's like that kind of God complex that some men have where they just want to like spread their seed as much as possible is so weird. Anyway, that's not the topic.
00:09:44
Speaker
Hey, little olives. Yeah, we're calling you guys Little Olives. Okay, today's topic, my selection, is fandoms.
Fandoms: Origins and Personal Identity
00:09:54
Speaker
This is such a broad category and it can go in so many different ways.
00:09:58
Speaker
Also, hi, I'm Ali, this is Khalil, we're the Olive People. um So I wanted to discuss what does being a fandom even mean? I grew up nerd.
00:10:11
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like Literally sci-fi, fantasy, Harry Potter type shit. like You name it. like What about them makes them so obsessive? Why do people love fandom so much?
00:10:27
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I think when you're like an ugly, lonely loser, you look for anything to attach yourself to. Audience, I hope you're hearing this. you ah Like, who else?
00:10:38
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Who else is super religious? Like, it's like a religion, right? Like, who are the religious people? Who are the priests, pedophiles? Who are the people getting the Deathly Hallows tattooed on them?
00:10:50
Speaker
Loser, millennial, like... I do judge people. I do judge people when I see that. J.K. Rowling, anti-trans. Everyone who's like really invested in fantasy is a loser.
00:11:03
Speaker
And I love fantasy. the The thing is, it's like, okay, I've actually met people. It's because it seems like a joke when someone would get upset to the point. Like, I don't care when people critique the things that I like because I have confidence in myself and, like, the things that I like. And I can acknowledge that the things that I like aren't perfect.
00:11:23
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But for some fucking reason, you just have people like I met gay guys who upset at like drag queens that they stand and being like, oh, I don't like this queen of the. And they like get mad at you for not also liking that thing. And it's like, you're weird.
00:11:36
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Taylor Swift fans like, yeah, it's because you guys are all weird losers. Sorry. Yeah. ah No, no, no, no worries. Sorry, i interrupted you. But I agree. I think it takes a level of escapism for you to want to join a fandom or to want to experience that. I mean, hello, like Twilight.
00:11:53
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I'd say I'm like number one front and center. If there's a Twilight fan account, I'm following it. Like literally. like i was Out now. Oh, yes. Oh, my God. That's so funny. We even have a Twilight episode on my behest.
00:12:07
Speaker
I insisted. So I get it. Like, I get the appeal. But I think I do have that awareness, like you're describing, that it is a crutch. it does Well, that's why I do think you're not a real stan if you're not willing to fight to the death.
00:12:23
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Like I like like I'm a barb like there's not a Nicki Minaj verse I don't know which is not actually true. I know like maybe 80% of them. and But because you're willing to say Nicki Minaj is a coke head married to like some crazy fucking rapist.
00:12:36
Speaker
um I don't think I've the barbs wouldn't consider me barb enough but non barbs think I'm a barb. Yeah. what What does she call her husband Pookie Bear or something. No, her son is Papa Bear. And I'm sure her she calls her husband Big Papa or something weird. That's so weird. Probably. Do know your daddy's bedroom?
00:12:58
Speaker
Come again? You don't... ah hey Come again? but um you don't You don't call... um You're not calling John daddy? Or John's not calling you daddy? That is horrendous. He is saved on my phone. He's saved on my phone as a joke as Baba.
00:13:11
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But it's a joke. I don't actually call him that. But... Yeah. but My dad will text me and his contact is Baba and then right under it is him, Baba.
00:13:24
Speaker
And it's just funny to
Dystopian Genres and Societal Reflection
00:13:25
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me. I'm like, this is hilarious. You not and both have the same name? That's kind of dangerous. no No, no, His has an ox emoji next to it. just Who has the ox?
00:13:36
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My dad. My dad? I meant John. John.
00:13:46
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I'm going to talk about, i have here written down like dystopian genres. I grew up because I did like AP English and whatever. And we read a lot of dystopian books.
00:13:57
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And I used to think they were just like. Me too, by the way. I was also in AP. didn't all go to international schools, but some of us still strived for excellence.
00:14:09
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ah You lost your hair along the way. ah Did you read 1984 by George Orlow? Yes. And like all of these other like... We don't do orgies.
00:14:24
Speaker
They do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I think the rise of gays is is like orgy porgy. You don't need contraception for that kind of sex.
00:14:36
Speaker
I was actually thinking this. I was at a queer iftar let yesterday. um And I was like, it was so there's so many people. And I was like, this is too much. like I don't like how this is now. this Everybody's a queer Muslim now. yeah It's like not queer.
00:14:52
Speaker
No, I like that there are more queer Muslims. I like it. I didn't like it because...
00:15:00
Speaker
I just think the way I'm Muslim was not the way a lot of people in that room were necessarily Muslim. Like, not to be Adam-centric, but, like, there was, like, some... There's a lot of, like, white people in that room.
00:15:15
Speaker
Like, it almost... There was not, like... I think culture and... Anyway. culture Culture is important. You can't just, like... anyway i guess I guess you might be speaking more culturally because when I joined the Queer Muslims of Boston, I think that was a wake-up call to me of, oh my God, actually Islam isn't Arab-centric. like Everyone else was like non-Arab.
00:15:38
Speaker
And so that made me really... Anyway, yeah. That's a topic for another
Hollywood Critique and Cultural Influence
00:15:42
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day. Good topic. ah But I was going to say that, though. I don't know. I was talking about dystopian novels in 1984. And then you talk about orgy. Yeah. Gay people are orgy porgies. Anyway, yeah moving us yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:15:54
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um So anyway, like growing up, I felt like dystopian work was meant to be educational. Like, I didn't realize it would latch on to our society as, like, a form of entertainment.
00:16:08
Speaker
Because then we had that era of, like, Hunger Games, Divergent, whatever, blah, blah, where, like, we craved this, like, dystopian world. But it's, like, ironic now that we learn nothing from them.
00:16:23
Speaker
Life imitates art. It really does. But I'm like, how silly is this? Like now, for example, there's that Snow White movie where Gal Gadot is like the star and she's the whole plot is that there's stolen lands.
00:16:38
Speaker
Like the whole plot of that movie is that Snow White is like losing her castle because the switch took it from her dad's. It really makes you think about the psychological psyops that I think Hollywood is up to. Like, I don't know.
00:16:56
Speaker
There's something fishy about that for sure. Right. I'm like, wait, so what was the point? like And the fact that the casting Gal Gadot, I don't know. Everything about it feels so silly. Gal Gadot and like her nationality aside is a terrible actress.
00:17:10
Speaker
She is. i don't know why they keep shoving her in our face. There's a lot of people who are just like, why are you around? But like stands, but, but Gal Gadot doesn't have stands.
00:17:23
Speaker
Like there's no like fan force for like whoever that is, you know, maybe like like me maybe Wonder Woman. I don't think people cared about Wonder Woman.
00:17:35
Speaker
I think Mark, I think these are dead. I think the era is over. But I will say that like the MCU spanning like literally decades, even though I don't respect it, looking at it from a distance, I'm like, holy shit, that's kind of an accomplishment.
00:17:56
Speaker
I don't know anything about those people. Fair. Fair. Okay. ah You? I did. yeah. Because growing up, all my friends were straight. So all we would do is, like, watch the next Marvel movie.
00:18:07
Speaker
Like, whenever it was out. Which, again, is kind of, like, weird and fucked up when you think about it. Like, I watched Captain America. did they have like Captain America, like fan merch, like how, like i you we need to talk about real stands, not just like, Oh, straight. This is the only thing acceptable thing. Straight guys could do.
00:18:27
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I would say they were stans to the sense where they like really cared about the plot, really cared about how they executed
Celebrity Interaction and Fan Expectations
00:18:36
Speaker
things. If something happened on screen that they're like, that never happens in the comics, whatever. bubble I'm like, who cares?
00:18:42
Speaker
Oh, you they would read the comics? Yeah. Okay. So it's pretty stanny. Yeah. It was interesting to watch because then you're like, wait, we're consuming propaganda. Like now I'm like, these movies are all silly.
00:18:56
Speaker
If you were a celebrity, what stand base would you emulate and why? So my favorite singer is Billy Martin.
00:19:07
Speaker
And I would do what she does where she has very little contact with her fans, releases her music once every three years, does the whole like touring thing and then disappears
00:19:22
Speaker
Okay. Yeah, that's simple. Yeah. i like you Are you doing like meet and greets? are you If you're stopped in public, are you taking pictures? Like, what's the deal? i think i would I think that would give me too much anxiety.
00:19:35
Speaker
like So, okay, i'm you're in public. I'm like, hey, Ali, big fan of your work. Can have a picture? What do you say? No. No. That's it?
00:19:46
Speaker
No. I'm going to say, look, i appreciate you for being this okay I appreciate you for being a fan, but I cannot trust your camera to take a good photo of me. i i promise it's just one picture. I won't post it anywhere. like i just I love you so much. You made me not kill myself. like That's so sweet.
00:20:03
Speaker
How about you? but
00:20:07
Speaker
How about you Photoshop me into your picture? i am not taking a picture with you. I'm sorry. ah That's okay. Maybe I'll send you suicide note, you dick.
00:20:19
Speaker
ah Doesn't that actually happen? Like in the wild, people will be like, hey, I want a picture. And then when they say no, they like go on a Twitter rampage saying this person said no to me. You're such a dumb bitch. good like They owe you nothing.
00:20:33
Speaker
But that's why I would be like Doja Cat with my fan base where I'd be like, I want to interact, but I'd be fighting and insulting them. But it's not, you know, this is the thing. There's a difference between critique that's harsh and an insult.
00:20:47
Speaker
I don't go look at a person and say, oh, you fat, dumb, ugly bitch, unless you're being a fat, dumb, ugly bitch. like And it's doing something that's like... harmful you know what i mean if someone's just standing there and i think they're ugly but they're like a nice chill cool person i'm not gonna like critique them you know in any way right but if like acting ugly and it's annoying like for example i was in an uber pool or whatever um after the queer iftar heading to the house party and actually someone from the iftar also got into my uber so it's like me and this other girl i'm like oh nice to be sharing like an uber with like someone i know
00:21:23
Speaker
We weren't even talking, but it was just like, yeah. And then some fucking dumb, drunk white guy comes in the front and he's like trying to yap. And he's like, you could smell the alcohol. And he was like trying to talk. He was like trying to talk to us in the back. And like, we're both looking at our phones now acknowledging him.
00:21:39
Speaker
And I was like, hey, man, I'm just trying to have a ride. And he was just like so pressed and so annoying. But it's like, why do you have to impose yourself? on other people but anyway that person like is deserving of like you know you should be shaking and but in my world in my fan world like if you're a fan and you come at me incorrectly i'll be like don't behave like that that is weird but other people if you do that to other people and they're telling you that they like that they're lying to you stop doing that yeah go to be that your breath smells too and you smell fixing
00:22:13
Speaker
You're going to be mom. I don't think moms do that sometimes. I mean, not all moms. That's true. i think they're like kids shit gold. but That's actually very true. That's
Fantasy Novels and Gender Perception
00:22:23
Speaker
very true. I finished this fantasy book called Mistborn.
00:22:27
Speaker
It's a trilogy. Actually, it's a trilogy of a trilogy. I finished it just like two days ago. And I was looking up like the author. He's this huge sci-fi person or not sci-fi fantasy person called Brian Sanderson.
00:22:42
Speaker
And he has a culty fan base. And the thing is is, even though I thought the book series was really well done, I kind of have a problem with how misogynistic, or not misogynistic, very clearly written by a white Mormon man, because he's a Mormon.
00:23:04
Speaker
And I always wonder, like, do people, like his fans, when they read that, does it do more harm than good? In the sense, like, he was very binary about talking about gender, very, like,
00:23:19
Speaker
I don't know, like called like women that were like into dresses poofs. It's like, what? Why was that necessary? What does that even mean? Like,
00:23:30
Speaker
If you're into a dress, dressing, dresses. If you're into like being a woman, like for example, the main character would be like, there were a bunch of puffs over there. And like, why are we bashing on people who are just into glam?
00:23:46
Speaker
I don't know. don't think you're giving enough context for this to make any sense. Like in this fantasy world, he's hating on feminine women. He's hating on women that like to like be girly girls.
00:23:58
Speaker
Yeah, okay. So... And you think that makes his fans hate girly girls? I think it just reinforces this like stereotype that men are manly and women are like useless women.
00:24:12
Speaker
I don't know. The main character is a female, but he paints her as a pick-me girl, like not like other girls. like She doesn't like wearing dresses. She doesn't like she's like wants to be wearing shorts and a buzz cut type thing. You know that kind of character?
00:24:29
Speaker
and like, why is that such a common trope? in these kinds of places. you have an anime girl? um Okay, what was your early memories of Stan? Yeah, for instance who did I say, Stan?
00:24:42
Speaker
I would say probably Billy Martin, that person I was telling you about. I remember the first time I saw her in concert, because she's not that big of an artist, so after the show, she like comes into the audience and just like hangs out.
00:24:56
Speaker
And i was with John. It was in New York. And I went up to her, and I was just like... Hi, lovely meeting you. We took that picture and then I took two steps away from her and I started bawling.
00:25:10
Speaker
Like literally John had to carry me out.
00:25:15
Speaker
In front of her? Or like you turned your back? I turned my back and got, i hope, I hope far enough. But I was so shocked by my reaction. And the thing is, I've seen her live now three times and every time.
00:25:30
Speaker
Every fucking time. the last The most recent time was like two years ago, a year ago. And she was actually in the audience behind me for the opener set.
00:25:43
Speaker
And I turn around and I see her. And then I turn to John and I tap his shoulder and I'm like look pointing back. And then we both turn and look at her and wave. And she waves back.
00:25:54
Speaker
And then she leaves. And I start sobbing again. You feel like because it's like because you made her leave? no, no. no all It's just because I love her so much. Like, I actually... um so Like, she has done so much for me. This is, like, so weird to say.
00:26:11
Speaker
But, like, her music is everything to me. And I...
Music and Emotional Connections
00:26:17
Speaker
I don't know. It's such a weird thing to describe because I never thought it would be me. But it's basically like the same reaction as people probably who love Taylor Swift, see Taylor Swift.
00:26:29
Speaker
yeah I try to be more like contain so that I don't want to throw that at her because she's just a person. And also, obviously, not the same thing that's in my head.
00:26:40
Speaker
I like love her music. I don't know her as a person. But I don't know. like Every time I see her, it's like... In my head, it's that parasocial relationship where we did grow up together, basically. like She's my age, and I remember so listening to her when I was 16, 15, all throughout like my 25, 10 years more than... you feel like you she was writing about her actual experience, and you were like, we're both experiencing these things together? like where i think think I think her music resonates with me a lot. like A lot of what she sings about...
00:27:18
Speaker
I felt like at the time that I was listening to it, especially like her older albums was during really tough times for me. So I always associate it with that era.
00:27:28
Speaker
So whenever I listen to it now, ah kind of like bri it's like a book where I can like see my life then. And it's like a combination of wistfulness and also pride of like how far I've come type of thing.
00:27:45
Speaker
Yeah, so anytime I want a good cry, I'll play her music. I think I'm so art from artist, it's really hard for me to stand the actual person who made it. Like, I do understand how songs connecting with emotion and past and certain experiences, but, like, the person who made that's not really important to me.
00:28:06
Speaker
But if you saw, like, Nicki Minaj in person, for example... I'd be so cool. Like, I'd be like, hey, Nikki, what's up? Okay. That's good. I guess that's fair. I think if I literally met any other kind of celebrity.
00:28:20
Speaker
and will be context, too, because also I'm just going to be pragmatic about it. Like, well, give me a throw a scenario at me. ah You're at a coffee shop and... And Nicki Minaj walks in? Yeah.
00:28:35
Speaker
And she's just like, hey, boo, can you step aside? Yeah, because she's like, can you move? I need the ah sugar over there. Oh, I would just be like, oh, let me pass it to you, Nikki. Yeah, ah okay.
00:28:48
Speaker
I would really, like, I would, I think I would just jump in to be like, hey, girl, like, I need you. Like, we're like, like, we're like, I'm just going to be like, casual, chill about it. you know what mean? And like,
00:29:00
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Like, I'm not going to pretend like I don't know who she is, but like, I'm not going to like be like, it would just be like anybody. Like, even if I see someone who has like really cute shoes in public and I'm like, oh my God, I think your shoes are so cute.
00:29:12
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And so I'd be like, oh my God, I love your music. And then I'd maybe say a funny little line or something. Cause sometimes I have verbal diarrhea like that. Yeah. We're like, cause you don't want
00:29:23
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Like, for example, i was talking to my, like, I never talked to my supervisor at work. We haven't had a meeting in like a year. It's kind of crazy. The last time I spoke to him, though, recalled the time to where we were in office together, which was like two years prior to that.
00:29:39
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was like, hey, so you remember when you told me your stepchild stole your car and crashed it? he's like, knew yeah. And I was like, oh, like, how's how's he?
00:29:50
Speaker
wait why the fuck did i say that's like how's the car how's he how's life that's so funny that's the kind of shit sometimes i come up with what i'm trying to be like gotcha
Celebrity Scandals and Public Perception
00:30:05
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lan anything what if you would just like are you curious about the i feel like with nikki minaj i would probably actually no i wouldn't part of me was like i'd ask her about the megan beef but then i'm like nah I don't care. Honestly, she's just a cokehead. Like, what? She's going to just say some crazy shit that I'm just like, I don't agree. Like, yeah I've seen what she'll tweet on Twitter. You know what i mean? Like, yeah yeah, I, and you know what I'm saying? Yeah. What is the line between being a fan and being obsessed?
00:30:35
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Oh, interesting.
00:30:39
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I think it's when you start emulating content.
00:30:44
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either emulating the person you think that the person like let's say for example justin bieber stands i remember in high school when people were like obsessing over him and he was everywhere like on backpacks on like like he's met justin bieber he was at their house and he played xbox and they made him mac louver wait what who did my cousins in winnipeg really This was Justin Bieber when he was, like, young, like, 13, maybe even, like like, early Justin Bieber because my, their dad or, like, that part of my family has a lot of clout in Winnipeg.
00:31:23
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um Shout out to Zid Family Food Fair. I don't say, I wouldn't go shop there, but, like, no, hey, don't come for me, you come for you. Okay. But, um...
00:31:34
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anyway they have like some clout because they have some grocery stores or whatever and then their dad knew his dad and i guess justin wasn't that big at the time right so as an as big i can't remember what was out at the time but yeah there's a i could i could maybe find a photo somewhere and i'll like throw it up there yes Wait, that's so weird. That it kind of makes me lose respect for him even more. The fact that he met Palestinian people and still chose to post that bullshit. It was like 13. Doesn't matter.
00:32:03
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If I had experience with any kind of culture at any point, I'll still have a memory of it. Who chose? He's probably had. Remember when he pissed in the bucket at the Anne Frank Museum or something?
00:32:13
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And then he said have been a believer. Like he's. I'm not going I didn't want to say the word retarded, but he's retarded. He's definitely like had a very sheltered life that maybe has damaged himself. also has been severely groomed.
00:32:28
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Really, really groomed. Allegedly, his weird-ass wife followed him and stalked him to like get married to him. they like stole I don't know. so my Someone was telling me about this. I didn't actually even look at look into it.
00:32:41
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But apparently, what's her name? Haldwyn? Haley Haley Bieber? Hailey Bieber, she would like book all the same hotels as him, like find what hotels that stay there and like run into him like some psychological psych op shit.
00:32:55
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And then there's like this friend was I believe her that there's lots of corroborating evidence about this. And even with Justin Bieber and the Diddy stuff that's happening right I was going to say that, yeah.
00:33:08
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You see videos of him acting all weird. and And then think about this. Justin Bieber and Ellen DeGeneres. And Ellen DeGeneres, that bitch, people think it's so he' ne no she's No, she's not just mean.
00:33:21
Speaker
She's done some crazy shit. She was in the loop with Diddy. She was around with... um George Bush at a baseball game. Like she knows politicians, she knows pedophiles, and she was hanging out with Justin Bieber. Like yeah she was like milking the titties out of that skinny cow. You know that? Did you see that meme where she's like interviewing a bunch of like leukemia children, all like post chemotherapy?
00:33:47
Speaker
And she's like, Oh, what time is it? Hey, Diddy, I think you should come out. And then it's P Diddy coming out and all the kids like running up to him and like hugging him and I'm like, oh, wow. This did not age well at all.
00:34:02
Speaker
This is why you don't stand people. You have to be prepared. Everyone's fucking evil. Everyone's using drugs. Everyone has a team of a billion people making their shit. So it's like, you don't love Taylor Swift.
00:34:14
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You love her um PR team. You love her marketing team. You love her graphic design team. You love her plain little voice. I don't know, but like, you know, don't talk.
00:34:25
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and Can I say one thing? Can I say one thing? Actually, this is really important. On stand culture. Okay. So like gays have their pop des divas that they stand like Charlie, Tate McRae, like all of those girlies.
00:34:38
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To me, they're like, okay, so what I've said, what I've like established it as it's like, they make cheese pizza music. It's like, I like cheese pizza. It's agreeable. It's like nice. It always hits, but it's always kind of like sounds the same. Like, like Tate McRae, you know Tate McRae sports car?
00:34:55
Speaker
Tate McRae is very much like for the straights. No, but like, no, there's gays that like her. Like, you don't know what you're talking about.
Mainstream Music Critique and Unique Styles
00:35:03
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But then no, I didn't like her. Her sound is very much like a regurgitation, just like you're saying of everything else in the music industry where it's just.
00:35:12
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Charlie is not the same. She literally all that Camila Cabello. Yes. ah Like, let's compare for... Charlie yeah X is, like, wo elevated to, like, what does she It's different.
00:35:28
Speaker
No, she sounds like she could be, like, you're an in the Kobe star. She could... I could... Like, the thing is she could have made lots of Kesha songs. Like, she's not that, like... No, I think you're not going to hear Charlie XCX music in street clubs.
00:35:45
Speaker
Like, that's my litmus test. No, they will play I crashed my car into the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. Not that. yeah Yeah, that was a long... ago but It still plays.
00:35:58
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ah At least in Canada. We're, like, behind all the time here. Anyway, Ethan finished my theory. So I think all of those girls, plus or minus a couple, it's like, yeah, they make cheese pizza music or ah and and ah and at different points in time, they get like employee of the month when they have like the spotlight. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like,
00:36:17
Speaker
They're not getting there's it's really hard to be like a legend. Like there's there's only one person that sounds like Rihanna. There's only one person that sounds like Amy Winehouse. There's only one person that sounds like Adele. Like when you like hear their voice. But sometimes I hear somebody and I'm like, I swear to God, I thought that there's this person or I thought this like I feel like to me, if there's not enough of like ah ah of like a stark personality thing, I'm just like, why are you a stan of Selena Gomez? Like she's so like white bread. Like, i like a good song, but like, holy shit, you're like, yeah adam that I agree with. See, I lump c Selena Gomez and Tate McCray in the same bucket. Not to say that their music isn't listenable, but it's like you're saying, like, the same
00:37:00
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But like, for example, Marina and the Diamonds. I feel like if you're familiar with her music, it's different. Like it's pop, but it's different. It's not meant to sound like anything else.
00:37:12
Speaker
Even like Lana, for example, like somebody like that, who their music, they do have a special a specific sound that's not...
00:37:23
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palatable to everyone you know like not everyone can be a Lana Stan or a Marina Stan or a Charlie Stan so when I I'm like a I'm a Trixie Mattel Stan in a loose term i I defended Trixie. I don't like Lana Del Rey because of what she did to Trixie when because I know video games because of Trixie Mattel.
00:37:45
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No way. yang I didn't know that you i just know that you didn't get yours to begin with. got a Trixie Mattel original song and then Trixie talked about it later because it's one of her most successful songs and she talked about how Lana Del Rey just like never acknowledged it and I was like damn. I get it though because Trixie's no offense to Trixie I do like Trixie a lot I hated her video game rendition she turned it country but it wasn't that nice it was better it made it better no I was like Lana why can't you like lay off the ketamine and speed up a bit no no no no I like ketamine give her some coke like can she like no no I like Lana sedated
00:38:28
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She's not singing opera, though. It's just so soft and wispy. It's like, yeah, I can tell you're like getting upset. No, no, no. No, see, I totally don't care. But I just think like if you give.
00:38:41
Speaker
Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Boulevard, that album, a proper listen where you read the lyrics? I'm like, girl, you do deserve credit. That is poetry. Like, it's really good.
00:38:52
Speaker
But I understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea. And that's kind of why I like her. The music she makes doesn't necessarily... isn't meant to be like a mainstream hit.
00:39:05
Speaker
Like, she has a seven-minute song where there's no chorus in that album. You know what I mean? Like, it's clearly meant to be just like what it is.
Celebrity Accountability and Industry Reality
00:39:14
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But anyway, I had two thoughts going back to the media and PR thing that you were talking about, how like we're really twisted into seeing people based on who their team is, like how they curate them.
00:39:27
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And I really started noticing it maybe this year, last year. Are you familiar with the whole, um what's Ryan Reynolds' wife's name? I'll just Google it.
00:39:39
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She's Serena from Gossip Girl.
00:39:43
Speaker
Okay, keep going. Anyway, she released a movie with this other actor called Justin Baldoni. Yeah, Blake Lively. She released a movie with this guy called Justin Baldoni like a year ago or a couple months ago.
00:39:55
Speaker
And there was a lot of press around that. accusing Blake Lively of being unkind, unfriendly, kind of rude, and like showing her in interviews saying like rude shit.
00:40:08
Speaker
And it was everywhere. like It was everywhere, even on my feed. like I'd be scrolling and I'd see 10 videos of people shitting on Blake Lively. And then it comes out that it was Justin Baldoni's marketing team pushing this agenda that she's horrible because she threatened to sue him for sexual ah harassment.
00:40:30
Speaker
yeah Like Donnie Depp and Amber or whatever. Exactly. Those were like PR wars. Exactly. Obviously, I'm not saying Blake Lively is like an angel. She's probably as horrible as they're depicting her.
00:40:41
Speaker
But it is still a marketing scheme. All I will say about dealing with celebrities and their evil shit, it's like you play with shit, you get with shit. That's true. Like you sign up for this. I mean, like, I think it's like, okay, I guess it's like I'm victim blaming a little bit.
00:41:00
Speaker
But like, if you're gonna be like a little clout chaser, and you run to LA, and you want to get involved with like, a movie star, and you're some hotly young thing, whether you're a guy or a girl, like, again, like you maybe you have talent.
00:41:16
Speaker
But tits and ass help having like being sexy helps. Like, you know what? Like, I just like, I don't think it's right, but it's like, it is what it is. It's not changing anytime soon. I don't even think it should change. i don't even think it should necessarily exist, but it's like, if you're going to go participate in that, it's like, don't be stupid.
00:41:35
Speaker
So then what about us, for example, doing this podcast where we are inviting similar. And. To the listeners, Khalil did the tongue sticking out. I don't care.
00:41:49
Speaker
ah ah but you never know like you never know the ramifications of i don't think i'm going hollywood and if i did go i don't think i don't think just it just wouldn't happen they would literally like the powers that be would just that's like and also it's not the same like it's not the same thing it would never happen for me and it's just like not it's it wouldn't it wouldn't happen it just wouldn't yeah yeah Like if I was invited to the P Diddy parties, I a thousand percent know in my mind I would walk in, I would check it out and I would probably just be like, I'd like, this is absolutely fucked.
00:42:24
Speaker
Yeah. I don't want, I know I have nothing to chat about with these people. i don't want to do drugs with these people. i don't like, and I'm really like, I'm really not about clout. Yeah. I'm i think like, maybe I say that now, but like I don't think so.
00:42:38
Speaker
I'm pretty like, I'm pretty solid. I would say. i want to say, I think, ah sorry, go ahead. Like, I don't know. i Like I said, I think I'm pretty casual.
00:42:49
Speaker
And like, even if you're like the Queen of England slash like some rando, like, you know, I'm not going to like kiss your ass. Right. Right. I think I feel the same way mostly because, yeah, just like you said, I don't really need anything from them or want anything from them.
00:43:07
Speaker
But like, I remember ah you're familiar with Hassan Piker, the podcast person, the Turkish guy. Apparently he's an Epo baby and a bad person. i just want to put that out there.
00:43:17
Speaker
I don't know if that's true. Whatever. But he was talking about a story where his he had a girlfriend at the time who got invited to the tea party. But the requirement was that she go without her boyfriend. He is an Epo baby.
00:43:33
Speaker
I also don't care. By the way, I don't have an issue with Nepo babies. You're just leg is like... What are you supposed to do? Like, if you're a rich and famous person, you want the best for your children. So I get it. Like, I get them getting their foot in the door. best for your children being a famous streamer... If that's what they want.
00:43:52
Speaker
But is it, but like, it's not, oh it's just like not, it's just annoying. It's like, so it's like, and the thing is, okay, fine. It can happen. Fine. Everyone has rights. But why are we like in this mentality where we're like, we're so primitive in like a dynastic way. Like for example, in Canada, we elected,
00:44:08
Speaker
um ah Justin trude here elliot but Trudeau. yeah And then we later had Justin Trudeau. oh Like, and if you have fucking his son, Xavier Trudeau, and however many goddamn years, like, I will shoot myself.
00:44:20
Speaker
Because it's like, it just says to me, like, people don't have that much taste. Like, I don't really hate Hasan Piker that much. But at the same time, like, okay, his political stance, I like the agenda he's pushing, whatever.
00:44:31
Speaker
But, like, why like sometimes i'm just like why were you friends with all these shitty people before how did you become friends with ethan kline like like it kind of does sometimes it's like when people are like when you're like
Podcasting, Fame, and Public Exposure
00:44:46
Speaker
attention seeking and like that's how you make your money and that's how you sustain a lifestyle like he's not living like how i'm living right now like let's say this podcast popped off right if I still live like I live now, it wouldn't matter if it dipped down because my lifestyle hasn't changed.
00:45:01
Speaker
But for him, he has a big mansion, blah, blah, blah. So he's kind of invested in keeping and attention on him. And that's where it's like, hmm, I think you become, become kind of shysty in that way. That's fair. But like, I'm saying like, I think a lot of the bad shit that people talk about him comes from that.
00:45:23
Speaker
That's fair. And I, I obviously I don't know enough about like Hassan or what his story is, but I think the point about like the Nepo baby thing that I wanted to make was that I think there's a very important distinction to be made.
00:45:36
Speaker
There's a difference between a Nepo baby and a child that is being abused for the parents privilege in the sense like I think Mary Kate and Ashley were abused.
00:45:48
Speaker
in the sense that they were children who were forced to act because their parents wanted money. But somebody like Kim Kardashian and Northwest, for example, Kim Kardashian doesn't need Northwest to be famous.
00:46:02
Speaker
Like, she is a billionaire. She's doing it because Northwest has shown interest and is allowing her to explore that. Obviously, ah we can criticize the way that she's doing it.
00:46:14
Speaker
But do you get what I'm saying? There's a big difference here. Like Kim Kardashian isn't actively saying, Northwest, you got to do this. You know? the only annoying part, like hypothetically, it's like when there's a Nepo baby involved, it's like you take the spot. You take a spot from someone else who will like never have the chance otherwise. But you know what? That's is life.
00:46:34
Speaker
And it's like, don't say it's like, it's not necessarily because you're talented. It's not necessarily because you're smart. I mean, it just goes back to the thing where like, the world is not like sex. Like, that's what I mean. Like, use your titties and don't feel bad about it because it's like other people, they use their uncles.
00:46:49
Speaker
Right. no i written it But yeah.
00:46:53
Speaker
But by the way, note that's literally how the world works everywhere. Like it's just like you're saying, like, unfortunately, it is the way of the world. But again, if I had that privilege, I would use it.
00:47:05
Speaker
Like if I become successful, i would want my children to have an upper hand. I'm not going to. I would be honest and I'd be fair about how I present myself. I just don't like, like, I know someone who's a diplo baby where their mom was a, a, a, like a ambassador. I'm not ambassador, but like senior working in the ambassador, like space.
00:47:27
Speaker
So they were like around the world. And I just feel like they hide it because this person's trilingual. And it's like, bitch, you don't just speak three languages because you're super intelligent and well-read. It's because your mom's a fucking diplomat.
00:47:38
Speaker
Like, shut the fuck up. You didn't, you didn't. But he still learned it. Well, you were just put in the environment and that's what you did. That's you just grew up. ah You don't get a trophy for growing up where your parents took you.
00:47:50
Speaker
That's fair. I'm trying to think like, no, that's fair. You're right. They're presented with opportunities that others aren't, which doesn't i mean that. French too if my dad fucking up and went to France to work.
00:48:01
Speaker
Right. not an idiot. I have to go talk to people. But I guess what is the issue with them knowing multiple languages because of the privilege? just that It's like when you say, oh, I speak three languages.
00:48:13
Speaker
And then you let people be like, oh my God, that's so impressive. though but I'd be like, oh, I grew up in all these places. Right. These languages. I see. I see. There's a subtle difference.
00:48:24
Speaker
And that's the What does this have to do with stan culture again? we just i don't know. Anyway, i the second thought that I had is completely unrelated to stan culture, but it was a funny story that I remembered.
Personal Stories and Cultural Experiences
00:48:36
Speaker
In the Middle East, I grew up in Kuwait. There's this famous place that if you're from Kuwait, you'll know. It's called Rehab. It is the black market. And speaking, it kind of relates to STEM culture. Me and a lot of my friends who were like super into video games...
00:48:56
Speaker
would go there to buy video games because most of them were banned in Kuwait. So we I would take my dad's and we would go to the same place that they probably sell guns and prostitutes to buy video games.
00:49:08
Speaker
And that is just a wild memory that i unlocked while thinking of things for this episode, even though it's unrelated to Walmart. It's like the Walmart all the haram shit. No, literally. And the funny thing is, it's the front would be like they sell chandeliers.
00:49:22
Speaker
Nice. And then you go and you're like, do you have God of War? Like, yeah, that's the video game because it depicts God. So it's like had. um That's so funny that like ah the like how the black market were.
00:49:36
Speaker
I mean, i've heard about alcohol dealers and stuff, too. Yeah, they exist. Did you know that like a bottle of like Tiro's vodka is like three hundred dollars in Kuwait? Yeah, you know, bottles of that.
00:49:48
Speaker
alcohol is also $300 in like clubs, like straight clubs. When people go clubbing straight people and they do bottle service, those bottles are hundreds, if not thousands of dollars.
00:49:58
Speaker
Like I'm not even joking. It's so pathetic. That's insane. Is it just for like the status? It's the like a status thing. and they It's like really, we're so primal sometimes. We really are.
00:50:10
Speaker
We really, really are. wait can we just actually list who we've stan like who we i stan most recently addison ray lana delray ah billy martin she's not like a famous person so i don't think that counts it has to be like it has to be a famous person right just list who you say stan okay whoever you put by stan whatever you feel okay i feel like i'd not recognize the name billy martin for some reason
00:50:41
Speaker
Because I wore her shirt. No. that like cooking episode. I think more i think Billy Martin's like not that not famous. Okay. the See, that makes me happy for her.
00:50:52
Speaker
i yeah little hurt and i mean Let me look them up. With an E? Billy Martin. They have 1.2 million monthly listeners on Spotify.
00:51:03
Speaker
I knew her when she had 10,000 listeners on Spotify, okay? Her top Spotify song has 84 million streams. And you're like, well yeah just some underground.
00:51:14
Speaker
i really I really knew her when she only had an EP and nothing else. Okay, I get it. You were with her from the beginning. You loved her. Yes, I love her. But no. Billy Martin is in that list.
00:51:26
Speaker
Okay, she is. shit and She makes it. Love you, Billy. Please ah acknowledge me. By the way, oh my god, something so embarrassing. When October 7 happened... I actually slid into her DMs and like wrote this whole thing. It's so embarrassing. I wrote this whole thing being like, can you acknowledge but like this genocide?
00:51:47
Speaker
like I need to know. but I really needed to know. And then a couple weeks later, she posted a couple of things about like vote for parliament for like people. Because she's from the UK for Jesus fire, blah, blah, blah. So that like completely made me go, who do you reach the page?
00:52:06
Speaker
No. She's never read Day of My Messages before.
Social Media Interactions with Celebrities
00:52:10
Speaker
Who? Monet Exchange. Oh, that's cool. I know it's active beef because I was like, fuck you, bitch. Talk about Palestine.
00:52:19
Speaker
Actually, like fuck you. like i i have a I have a screenshot of um of the fight, obviously. But she was pretty much just like, fuck you, you like dumb bitch. And I was like, bro, like why would you talk to me like that? like Wait, didn you didn't you just say you would talk to your fans like that?
00:52:35
Speaker
If a fan came up to you and was like... If my fans... No, no, no, no, no. Listen. If my fans were like, fuck you, you just did something that like supported like something that I don't like that's like killing my people...
00:52:47
Speaker
Even if I was like, cause I'm a pragmatic person. Like I have a fucking iPhone. Like I'm sorry, kids in the Congo. Like I do like, I'm not insupportive of that, but like I understand whatever point being is I would never respond like that. I would be like, ah you know, I'm, I'm really sorry. Like that is a, that's an unfortunate reality of like whatever.
00:53:06
Speaker
I wouldn't come from a place of defensiveness. Cause bitch, I have money. i have fame. Like,
00:53:13
Speaker
i'm Why am I going What do I care what you have to say about me? like I'm sorry you shit i think you're a piece of shit. like it doesn't it's It doesn't need to be said that much. like It's not like...
00:53:24
Speaker
Right. No, i I get that. I get that. You're right. When you're on the end of like, you're the famous person, it becomes different. Like, not to yesterday. I actually got my first hate comment on one of my Instagram posts.
00:53:35
Speaker
Somebody, I think it's because people were like posting about that. I had this DJ set. So this guy posted under one of my posts. Wow. Uh, harder and Ramadan and a gay Muslim.
00:53:49
Speaker
Clap, clap, clap. Like it was like multiple claps. I just blocked delete like immediately. As in like, you're right. It is so easy to just not. they I don't know this person. I don't care.
00:53:59
Speaker
But I feel like the thing is, Mo Day Exchange, you're a miserable bitch because like only a miserable bitch would take the time out to fucking say something to my like little broke gay ass about. But maybe she was saying, maybe she was saying was like, fuck you. Ha ha ha. Like she was just emulating your. Oh, we see this because we went back and forth. Oh, you did. And then it also went on to Twitter. Oh, wow. Anyway. but Okay, wait, wait. You need to... Who we stand?
00:54:27
Speaker
Addison Rae, Lana Del Rey, Billy Martin, Marina and the Diamonds, Florence and the Machine. i can't think of anything else, so I guess that's it. Unless you're all right. Like if you stand them, you would have remembered.
00:54:41
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. What about you? I stan...
Female Rap Diversity and Personal Taste
00:54:47
Speaker
Okay, I stan female rappers. um Like, I will i will defend and every female rapper. What do you mean? You cannot say that. That's like saying, i love all black people.
00:54:59
Speaker
You can't police my speech, ACAP. You have to tell me exactly who you stan. You can't just... that Like, I stan Alabama Barker and Bad Baby. I stan Lil' Kim and Nicki Minaj. Bad Baby.
00:55:13
Speaker
Do you know who, oh my God, you don't know about any female rap. Like, Bad Baby's a legend. Gucci flip flops. Fuck you, hit your bitch in my socks. Yeah, you're talking, I can't believe you're talking about her.
00:55:26
Speaker
I'm talking about her Recently, she released some just Google her. You're pretty legendary. Listen to like, I mean, I don't know. You have to like rap to understand what I'm talking about. But if you're after I stand you.
00:55:38
Speaker
Okay, fair. Like I I'm like, I've said just when if I like an art form, if I like i really like an art form, i I just like even if you're rap shitty, I just like I love that you're contributing.
00:55:49
Speaker
And I'm like, even if it's shit, I'm like, no one should ever like squash your star because it's like, we need, we need it. It's just saying. Okay. Okay. Yeah. But like, sp okay. I, but I do, speak I want to list other things. So like female rap in general, but more specifically, I stand little Kim, Nicki Minaj, Trixie Mattel,
00:56:12
Speaker
Oh, baby ah baby Morocco. Yeah, love them. Morocco hard. love her I stand chase icon. Wait, do you know if he is... Wait, sorry, don't interrupt. Keep going. I think he might be gay.
00:56:23
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I don't know. He's bisexual. Because I was going to say, do you think he's pro-Palestine? But I don't know
00:56:30
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Your name is Baby Morocco. I think if you're Jewish and you're like for Israel, like ah luck anyway any any Jewish people who were Arab were like de-Arabized and made to feel shame for wherever it yeah actually came from and the languages that they spoke.
00:56:46
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yeah So if I think if his name is Baby Morocco, he doesn't have that affinity for Israel. You're right. you're right i do think I do think his album is probably one of the best albums of the year.
00:56:58
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the like a pop album specifically. Yeah, I'm just like, okay, like you're like sexy and you know it and it's fun. Yeah. um
00:57:11
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Oh, okay. And I also stand. So my my Billy Martin is a real Billy Martin. There's this artist in Winnipeg named Peter Harder. You mentioned you have beef with them.
00:57:24
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He's just like a retard. Like...
00:57:28
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But, um like, I really love his music, and, it like, I caught it it. I really relate to a blah, blah. And then we became really good friends. But then he's also just, like, a white person. He's very flaky, like, is not, doesn't really contribute to community, i think, is, like, not aware of capitalism and, like, how it affects us, which is, like, a lot of people, unfortunately. But, like...
00:57:49
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You know what I mean? Like it's giving NPC, but this NPC like really makes good music. um And I like I definitely stand Peter Harder. Like if you're listening at this point, look him up on Spotify. Great.
00:58:04
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Like love songs like pop love songs. But the thing is, my music taste is also bad. Like my, my taste in food is bad or my taste of like, I think I have a low vibrational taste level of stuff.
00:58:21
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Uh, I think everyone is different. No, I'm just personally speaking. Like I just like, I like, I mean, you better like your, your tea is valid. Your non-binary tea is valid.
00:58:34
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Like, I love a Little Women Atlanta, and I love listening to, like, Tate McRae. And I like eating fried chicken. I see. I think what you're describing is, like, almost like if I'm high, like like if I'm smoking weed, I want to consume things that are palatable. Yeah.
00:58:55
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No, I'm not. That's how I've always been. Like, I'm not like anything like I like complex foods. I'm just saying when it comes to music specifically, I'm not like. I don't really care that much. You know what mean? Like, I don't want to listen to a ballot.
00:59:09
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Right. don't want to like.
00:59:13
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I get it. I get it. To each their own. was that it Was that the episode on Stans? I think that was Stans slash whatever else that was. You made it through. Yeah.
00:59:24
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I have no idea what that was. It can be one of the miscellaneous episodes. Like an episode where it's just us talking, talking, talking. I think we talked enough about Stans.
00:59:35
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