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Speaker: Hello. Hi. How are you? I'm good. The week has turned around from last week.
Speaker: I feel like we have purged all the bad things I have to deal with around this cycle. Yeah. I feel like, if you think about it, doesn't your life happen in like, like I feel like every December is bad for me.
Speaker: I never have good Decembers. I feel that way about early Decembers, late December is fine. January is like mid.
Speaker: feel like February for me is when things start getting better. Or maybe March.
Speaker: But like you don't have a historically bad season? Winter. i mean, I get seasonal affective disorder for sure. Like I get so depressed when it's super cold and dark outside.
Speaker: But I get summertime sadness. Like I feel like August is probably my not good summer month. But then September picks ah
Speaker: I feel like my August is also unbearable, but only because I usually spend that with family. Because it's the summer, so that's when I can visit. And it's usually ah filled with trauma.
Speaker: It's so dark-sided. ah by August is also going to be filled with family. Oh my god. Cute. Why are we, like, foreshadowing a terrible August?
Speaker: and and sha la here and shalock Hopefully they stay out of your business. Hopefully, but my titties are just so big. Hell yeah. Let those titties out. Honestly, I was noticing this shirt. like i've so I'm so lucky. i have so many shirts that do such great things for like... cleve Yeah.
Speaker: It's kind of insane. i like I'm obsessed. And I just like have all the buttons. I just feel so slutty. But like, so like... Which is a perfect segue into our episode because we're talking about my favorite thing ever.
Speaker: Hi, little olive. Oh, yeah. Hi, guys. Well, I shouldn't say little olives. Mature olives. This is the 18 plus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is going to be like keep your kids at home.
Speaker: Lock the doors. If you're driving, at the side of the roads. You need to like listen up. If you're a queer Muslim virgin, open up your textbooks to page one, get your notebook ready.
Speaker: What color is this subject, do you think? What color shall the duotang be? Oh, wow. That's such an interesting question. I'd say a maroon. Okay.
Speaker: Ew.
Speaker: I thought of it. I was like, wait. I was thinking maybe white. Oh, interesting. like white better. Let's go with white.
Speaker: so today we're talking about anal. All things anal because I like it's not even just a gay thing. and This is a gay podcast, but I find it shouldn't be a gay thing.
Speaker: It shouldn't. It's not a gay thing, though. I mean, like most things, people think gay guys and everyone's being slutty and in open relationships and like messy. But then you talk. To a straight person for more than five minutes and you just find out so much shit's going on. They just have like, you think we have shame? They have like 30 times more shame. That's also like unidentifiable because it comes from a different source versus for every gay guy, you know where the source of the shame is coming from. It's like mom, dad, mostly mom.
Speaker: Yeah. Absolutely. I concur. i feel like in the straight world as well, there's such a lack of communication between the two species, i.e. like males and females. They just don't... I don't think they believe each other when they say what their desires are.
Speaker: Like, I feel like women are mistrustful of men, rightfully so. They're dangerous. ah where They are. And then men... tend to feel shame from women in the sense that they think they need to be a certain type of man.
Speaker: you get what I'm saying? like the Feel your shame. This is the thing. Feel your shame. Do your oath. This is the only problem I have with men is they act out violently.
Speaker: Am I someone who spews violence? Absolutely. But like, I'm not actually going to kick your ass unless you throw the first conch. You know what I mean? i never star I would never like star violence. It's not like something I'm excited about.
Speaker: But i that I think that's the fundamental problem. Because if you watch also the queer ultimatum with all those femme presenting women on Netflix, have you seen that one?
Speaker: you need I have, I have, I have, I have. It's so good. I know exactly what you're talking about. They are so... They over-communicate. Yeah, they do. You're right. They over-communicate. It's like, girl, shut the fuck up. Like, eventually, you just need to sometimes have your blowout, say this is what it is, and then walk away.
Speaker: But the problem is, lesbians will fight to the end, and and guys will, like, kill each other. Oh my god, there wasn't there that one lesbian who died on the hill of I cannot be with you if you do not want my dog stay? Stuck in the bed.
Speaker: Fuck you. Literally, fuck you. does That was the most aggressive fuck you have ever heard from you ever. Not you, obviously. Fuck that way. No, but like, that's the most aggressive your voice has ever gotten. Even in like screaming matches we've had. Was I masked?
Speaker: No, you were still a faggot, but it was like, it was so like, wow you felt something about that. I've been holding that in I've been holding that in and needing the space to share how much, like I've had this locked in the chamber. i think, I think that woman is so unreasonable.
Speaker: Or they them. I don't know how they identify. But so unreasonable. The fact that you can't compromise or see or understand why someone would be grossed out by your nastiest, like, giant Labrador.
Speaker: Anyway, this is a tangent. Sorry. We don't have to talk about it. No, finish your thought. You don't want all No, my thought is just that I think people have a right to say, maybe I don't want to sleep in the same bed as a dog and it not be this major. Just like you said, she literally starts like bawling and makes it this big deal. Like, this is my child. I carried him for nine months.
Speaker: And even your kid shouldn't sleep in the same bed. Right. Exactly. Forever. We're going to treat it like a child, then treat it like a fucking child. Where does Halumi sleep at night?
Speaker: Wherever. Halumi is John and Ali's cat. Me thinking of doing a podcast with John now? ah No, he would never. He's such a shy boy.
Speaker: would never get on camera. I would never do it with him in the first place, though. He's not being offered the spot, so you don't have to reject on his behalf.
Speaker: You wouldn't anyway. But okay, fine. He would never get to say no because he's never being offered. Haram, why not? Because it's the olive people, not the olive and the mayo.
Speaker: But what if it's the olive and olive adjacent? He's an honorary olive. Haram. He's a little olive. Yeah, who's fine. He can be a little olive. He's like an olive budding.
Speaker: He's an olive budding, yeah.
Speaker: But I feel like I would never have a guest host. Like, no one can stand in your place. That's so sweet. But really? i actually was thinking about that. I was like, what if there's a time where, like, for example, if I'm in Kuwait for three weeks or something, wouldn't you want to have, like, a guest host?
Speaker: Or if I say this thing sound off below olives, I think Ali could film one hour episodes while he's in Kuwait. I think he could find one hour in a week. I literally have to like sneak.
Speaker: Like i literally have no personal time. We could figure it out. well You could go on the roof or something. You can have a one hour conversation in private. No, I probably could. I just probably would need to then get roaming.
Speaker: Anyway, we'll we'll talk about it. Roaming? You don't have Wi-Fi in Kuwait? We do, but on the roof.
Speaker: Oh, girl, there's so many problems. Go to a coffee. We'll talk about it later. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it yeah we'll figure it out. But maybe, I don't know. I guess I'm open. I don't want to ever be replaced by anybody. ah Okay. Try to try.
Speaker: I'll sue. Okay, okay, okay. Anyway, we were talking about anal sex. Okay. Yes. um I have a list of questions. Hell yeah.
Speaker: Is it going to be like a fire rounds or but broad general questions? Girl, I think we always get general. We do. Okay, so what does it mean to talk about anal sex as a queer Palestinian?
Speaker: I think it's very important because I think the way people view sex is so funny to me. Like, why can't we just talk about it the way that we talk about, like, breakfasts?
Speaker: You know what I mean? Like, it's not a big deal. Sex is not a big deal. I think it's just... none the I think it's because it's one of... Like, to me... having like sex, as in, im like the action, if you were to isolate the action, why is that seen as like such a private, like scary taboo thing to discuss when we talk openly about like getting drunk or like doing other things that I'm like, what is the difference?
Speaker: I think it's like, sometimes I think about sex like a handshake, but then also imagine if handshakes, everyone just put their finger inside each other's mouths. There's something like intimate about like the ear insides in our society now.
Speaker: I mean, just generally, I think it's like more animalistic to be like, oh, my internal organs are like closer. So like, you know this take it's like peeling back the cur like you're saying, peeling back the curtain of what like you present to society.
Speaker: So it's like a very vulnerable. Obviously, it's vulnerable. Like you're vulnerable and people react weird to vulnerability. Right. I think that's what it is. And I think that, like, for being in terms of queer Palestinian and talking about sex is sex in at least our society is... i don't think... I don't know.
Speaker: Sound off below ah Palestinians or Palestinian-adjacent people in the comment. Did your parents ever talk to you about sex? And what did they say about sex? Because I feel like my dad would rather jump off a balcony than have to discuss, like...
Speaker: body parts or like you know how to what to do like relationships anything like that let alone alternative anal sex but I do have and not this is not to stereotype I'm not trying to be like the a bad Palestinian example because this is a stereotype about our people but I do have a cousin who has performed some Interesting sex acts, we'll say,
Speaker: um in the countryside. Wait, what? What?
Speaker: Okay. and Wait, what? i i am My mind is going like crazy imagining what you're trying to say. Keep up the second. What? Wait, pause.
Speaker: Pause. What? That is a stereotype of our people. Well, like they say goat fuckers.
Speaker: Oh my goodness. I've actually never thought or heard or even But think that's a stereotype of like many rural, more conservative. Poor chicken.
Speaker: Yeah, no, it's like, its I'm not, i'm this is not a valid form of sex. But i what I'm trying to get at is it's a society that doesn't talk about sex. Like any, not just Arab societies, but any conservative society that's really repressed, people start putting their dicks in holes that they shouldn't.
Speaker: When it's just like, if you just talked about the holes that are available and is more normal... Just, you know, do that. You know, i that's what that's why I think we should normalize sex so my cousins don't fuck chickens.
Speaker: Yeah, please, Khalil's cousins. Come on. That's not okay. But it's like, you're worried about me fucking a guy's ass? And then ah chicken.
Speaker: Aww. i Like, yeah, the morbid part of me wants to ask more questions, but I think we have to move along. I don't know much about the whole chicken fucking situation, but, like, he is the village idiot of my family. Like, he was, at one point when he was living in Canada, he was, like, doing, like, car insurance scams.
Speaker: He was just constantly, like, that shysty, short, like, ignorant. How did this come to light? Is this just a horrible rumor you're spreading? This could be a horror horrible family rumor mill, but I, knowing this man...
Speaker: I believe he did it as like a perhaps a drunk dare. Perhaps he was feeling adventurous. I believe it.
Speaker: Okay. Very, very fascinating stuff. I feel like that's the root of all evil when it comes to sex, is people are so and and mistrustful of how far men will take things.
Speaker: Yes. And I think there's like this notion of if we prevent them from even doing it, then they won't harm people. When instead, you should be addressing the root cause violence. Or animals.
Speaker: Yeah. And the fact that men need to be like...
Speaker: Discipline. like i don't like I feel like we need some kind of walkthrough. You can't just expect us to live in ignorance and then know how to have perfectly good sex and like know how to like be gentle with our partners or whatever.
Speaker: Say something. If you see something, say something. Exactly. Okay, so I guess that covers the... ah but AI started talking about fucking chickens immediately. Yeah, I feel like now nothing's off limits.
Speaker: nothing's off Nothing was ever off limits for me in this podcast. I mean I've already declared that. If you don't like that, go kill yourself. Like, this is... Go make your own podcast to go say your own shit out there on the internet. This is like, you know, this is for most and mostly for me.
Speaker: And the fact that it's, you know, becoming super popular and cool is a reflection of me. And try to be like me and go do your own thing. But next question...
Speaker: How is colonization, religion, or diaspora shaped how we think, feel about anal sex? I actually know a decent amount about this. I can say, like, religion, at least, definitely makes it... Are we going to talk about the story of Lut?
Speaker: Come Lut, we're going to start right at the origin. So first of all, I mean... The first gays ever, our ancestors. Our ancestors. From Lut. My ancestors... Wait, my ancestors from Lut? I'm going to start... so That needs to be like gay Arab dance or slang. Yeah, my gay ancestors from Lut.
Speaker: Get into it, guys. I went swimming there. It was really nice. Where? Where? but Where they got crushed in the Dead Sea. Oh my god, that's hilarious. hu Sorry, but to kick carry on. No, no, no. I was actually going to refer it to a like the impact of religion on sex. I think it's just... I feel like the same thing happened to me that probably happens to Catholic schoolgirls.
Speaker: Where like they just see sex as this ultimate sin and so repress it for so long until one day they start having like voracious sex.
Speaker: And you're like, but wait, nothing happened to me. You're like, nothing happens, but then also I think the taboo of it starts to become the appealing part of it. So then you start craving more and more taboo things, I guess. Not chicken fucking.
Speaker: But... like my point being is think if sex was addressed as hey by the way everyone has sex i think my relationship with sex as a child would have been way healthier because all my experiences were through hookups and the first thing you're because you were repressed 100 i feel i feel like i'm vanilla Oh, interesting. know if the two are related. i feel like you're looking for causation correlation.
Speaker: but But then what I guess like what about i guess what I'm trying to say is like, I think in an ideal world, a gay person, just like any person should experience desire in a healthy way in which it is in an open space.
Speaker: And there's no shame. And like you're walking down a hallway at school, you drop your things and somebody helps you pick them up and your hands touch and you're like, oh my God, I feel like butterflies.
Speaker: You know what I mean? Like that's, yeah we never got that shit. My first interaction with a gay man was immediately a hookup. My first sexual encounter was hookup. So I feel like right off the bat, that just makes it, um,
Speaker: Not to say that that's bad, um obviously. I'm just saying that because it was under the guise of shame, i think it clouds like what I actually want deep down.
Speaker: Does that make sense? I guess. I mean, for you, i mean your tea is always valid. I feel like I have a total different...
Speaker: like experience to sex, then I feel like my experience is less cerebral than that. But what I was, but we were talking, you were talking about like religious, where were you were, you were kind of going through the shame thing.
Speaker: But what I wanted to draw attention to was in terms of, um let me like restate the question really quick. Colonization religion and being diaspora shaped sex specifically in the modern era as Palestinians, Arabs, whatever in diaspora where we're surrounded by a society that essentially hates us and wants to like repress us.
Speaker: And essentially, if not like kill us physically, kill us culturally culturally. would assimilate us um and i think part of that is like the identity of being gay that has been created in the modern era is being like weaponized against us in a way because here's the thing our ancestors in like let's say ottoman empire were gay as fuck before the ottoman empire collapsed but the thing is no one was gay like
Speaker: Let's say if the Olive podcast existed in the Ottoman times, we would both be like podcasting with our like slave wives, like who are like doing whatever duties they have to do.
Speaker: And then we go to the bathhouse in the afternoon. Fuck guys, hang out with the boys, come home, beat our children, ignore them, whatever. And that's that. It's not a whole like, yes, like personality, identity. Like it's just kind of a thing you do. It's more like a hobby rather than a whole persona.
Speaker: And then anti-sodomy laws came into place in the Ottoman Empire during after the collapse of World War I because these fucking piss drinking shit filled street European asses came and were like,
Speaker: You can't do this. It's disgusting. But they didn't have indoor plumbing, probably. They thought it was dirty because it's like, well, you don't wash your ass or your private parts ever. So of course you're going to think something's wrong with that.
Speaker: But and then those laws have since stuck around. Like, i I think if you look at like Egypt or like Algeria's laws, any of like the laws of like homosexuality in the Middle East are their colonial era laws of like debauchery, whatever, whatever.
Speaker: Like it doesn't come from... ah like we think We think it's like, oh, our culture is like so pure. We've never been gay. We don't fuck with that shit. But it's just like you... that It is part of... colon Homophobia is part of colonization. Absolutely. That's something I tried to tell my dad once where he was spouting off something random about either homophobic or whatever. And I tried to explain to him, FYI, even like the way that we view Islam now...
Speaker: Like the Salafi... I might get hate for this, but like mainstream Islam is also colonial. Like it was also like... The way Muslims hate communists is a CIA fucking plot. They like funded certain schools of Islam to tell you communists are your enemies.
Speaker: But then also like the traditional way that we practice Islam now only existed... like in the past 100 or so years, as in it was very different.
Speaker: It was very different. And again, that's because when the colonizers came, they were like, it's easier if all of you guys believe the same thing. And all of you guys like are homogeneous. We can control you.
Speaker: So I feel like they kind of pushed for this like more strict religion. And just like you said with homophobia laws, like it's so funny to me when people think that their thoughts are like pure and untouched.
Speaker: Like my dad, for example, thinking like him thinking that homophobia was placed into his mind by God as opposed to like the colonizer.
Speaker: makes him feel like he's actually rebelling against the colonizer. you Exactly. Which is so funny because it's like, no, actually you're doing exactly what they want. Because they have like claimed they've pink washed themselves so well to be like, well, we like gay identity is ours.
Speaker: Like they've people have created this fake gay queer nation when it's just like we're all just different people who just share a sexual very much like men. Like how like every match straight man is different from every straight man. And however, every woman is different from every woman.
Speaker: Like there's there's literally nothing really connecting gay people besides the type of sex that you can have. Absolutely. And even then it's like, but we're going to get into that. We're like, we need, we need to talk about top bottom verse. yeah Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay. How, how, how do we move on to that?
Speaker: Um, well, what myths or misinformation about anal sex are you tired of hearing in our communities? I would say, number one, you know, there's no such I'm going to say right now, there's no such thing as being a top, no such thing as being a bottom.
Speaker: Everyone's versatile. And if you're saying you're not, you're a liar who is limiting yourself and you should go to therapy unless you have a medical condition.
Speaker: i know a lot of people who yeah bought some because that's fair. I mean, yes, if you don't have if you don't have the The necessary things, of course, that goes without saying.
Speaker: rights Right, right. And I agree. I think everyone should try both. And yes, it's fair. Like some people, like going to out you as a preferred top. And I feel like... But I'm a preferred medical... It's medically necessary because I have hemorrhoids.
Speaker: Okay, so you're also in that group then. Yeah. Maybe that's why it's not as enjoyable then. But despite that, despite that i do try. Okay, but you've told me before that you don't find it as enjoyable. Like, you do it because you want to please the other person as opposed to, like, you feeling pleasure.
Speaker: I don't, it's not, like, all torture for me, though. Okay. But, like, I think it's not comfortable for, like, the initial part. it Like, I have to, to get warmed up takes a lot.
Speaker: I see. Have you tried poppers? Yeah, and those definitely help. But I don't like like, like, that's why I don't bottom as much because I don't like having to have poppers and, like, have to, like, have all these things because that's one thing about anal sex is it's not convenient.
Speaker: It is not convenient. It's not convenient, but I feel like you can get down to a routine. and So i'm I prefer it to bottom. Well, you're in a fucking partnership, so you can have routine. I'm fucking random or losers.
Speaker: Like, I have to whenever they're available. That's fair. That's fair. And I'm not even really fucking, to be honest. i'm I do more, like, side stuff because it's just, again, it's convenient. That's your preference. i mean, it's because I just it's like the intimacy aspect that I prefer to have before we penetrate each other.
Speaker: But I mean, I'm always open to all possibilities. So I think I will fuck a random. But you know what i mean? and I feel like my one thing that i always hear about, like the process of bottoming, oh, douching is so hard. It's annoying. but Get up a day.
Speaker: ah Exactly. i was going to say, it's not that hard. It's really not that hard. And honestly, I'm always surprised. Oh, actually, this is a good... I'm so curious to know what your thoughts are on this.
Speaker: When I talk, if, and this might seem unfair and I know a lot of people are going to judge me, but if there's even a little dookie, I'm done. Like I can't, if I smell, if I smell shit, it's over.
Speaker: It was a whole set. You can't shower and get back to it. I can't. Like I, i and and that's why to me it's like frustrating not to also like, That's fair, but I think you're weak for that.
Speaker: I know, because some people don't give a shit. But for me, not to... No, I give a shit. I give a shit. But i I can take a break and then be like, okay I'm fine now. I'm not going to be traumatized. by the negative least Mentally, I'm traumatized.
Speaker: But also, like... But for how long? What do you mean? Like, just that. Okay. oh sir Well, yeah, let's say John, because I have to use John as the example. be like happy you Let's use person X.
Speaker: No, because when are you going fuck person X? We all know it's going to be John again. No, i don I don't want to sexualize my boyfriend on the podcast. Oh, whatever. People people who know. Okay, so person Yeah.
Speaker: yeah This person you're consistently fucking. who i I wonder who that is and you're like, oh, I don't want to shame sex but often I have people just want to know that I have anal sex with my boyfriend as a gay guy like if why know ice because i he's not here I would want him to be here to talk about it in this hypothetical scenario that may be I FYI talked so many people like I have a lot of you talk the same person twice no That's not your man.
Speaker: No. Okay. So that's an important key part in this scenario. So that's why I will say. I get it. I get it. I get it. Okay. Okay. Person X shits on your dick. How many hours later are you okay again? and I guess if like the mood is right I would be down after like showering and cleaning and making like getting ready and whatever if like we feel horny again but usually if the mood is dead they might be next day but then what's your clock do you have to like is it the next sleep is it like two three hours oh I guess oh yeah I guess I guess how yeah yeah yeah how often are you getting horny that word surprised to me I'm I'm a very sexual motherfucker like that's my problem
Speaker: Or not problem, I guess gift, but it's also a curse. But I was going to say, can I backtrack a little? Because I want to still talk about the shitting thing on the day. I know you hate poop.
Speaker: He's being graphic about poop. i yeah he cares I'll be careful. what was it I was going to say something really important. Oh. as To toot my horn, that's what it was.
Speaker: i have never once had an incident. And I've been bottoming for like 10 years.
Speaker: Good for you. Never once. Because it's that easy. No, it's not. It's sometimes, sometimes let's say you have, okay, I'll think of one bad incident I had. It was just, i had been at the club for hours and hours and hours. That's fair.
Speaker: That's fair. then like someone sexy takes you home and they want to like, yeah fuck you. You can't. I don't know. You don't really... You kind of just, in your mind, you want to just be like, fuck it, let me risk it.
Speaker: Because sometimes you surprise yourself. You're right. Sometimes. I've been surprised before where, like, I douched, and then I go out, and then six hours later, I still have sex, and still...
Speaker: pristine i'm like oh i did that but i think it's because it's still pristine he says i think it's because i take a lot of fiber supplements like just gay like 101 if you're a bottom you're probably like drinking metamucil or something do you know what that is you get at bottom yeah yeah yeah Yeah.
Speaker: um I think it's good for you. Fibers are great for preventing cancer. Yeah. And then also all my poops are perfectly formed and like bulky, you know. So, yeah, get into that.
Speaker: I think your mother I'm I don't like size queens. what he ah what a my Because we're talking about myths or misinformation.
Speaker: i don't... Okay, I'm not going to be like, oh, small dicks matter. I'm not like anti-small dicks. I guess I'm pro-aesthetic dick. That's what I care about. I don't want...
Speaker: it to be massive though especially for bottoming like if you're having anal like to me the bigger the dick the like less likely that's gonna happen for me so I'm like not like I don't understand size like they exist people will be like ah like I mean I've just had conversations where like I you know I think it's like you know my my inches are you know inch in but like people will just be like no I only fuck with like eight or higher not outing myself as like Not outing my dick size.
Speaker: I don't care. i don't. I mean, i like I mean, i just think it's weird to state my dick size. Like, I mean, if people really want to know, but like, it's not that serious. Right. But but like those people people exist. I'm just saying people like size queens are out there. And like, it doesn't matter when it's going in your ass unless you're loose.
Speaker: but Unless it's like a sausage down a hallway. Which, by the way, I i i did not create that term, or that phrase. I've heard it before. Just so that know people don't come for me. Because I think it's a known statement.
Speaker: but ah ah But I was going to say, i kind of disagree. Because i don't care if the dick is like mangled and been through like a chainsaw accident.
Speaker: Mm-hmm. As long as if you know what you're doing with it. That's the caveat.
Speaker: ah Are you okay? I have my body physically, like, because ah I'm sorry. I'm so sorry if you have an ugly mangled dick. by I'm sorry for people out there too.
Speaker: I don't care about what your dick looks like. See, and Ali's the hotter host too, so like... But you know... We're both hot, Habibi. We're both hot, but we are whatever. bla will term If it was a voting competition, like, we don't really need to do the vote.
Speaker: yeah It's not. Don't you dare vote, people. Don't you dare, but like, we already know the answer, and like, that's fine. It doesn't mean I'm still the better person overall. That makes you feel better. Yeah, call us. But as the hotter host... Yeah.
Speaker: you'll still You'll deal with an ugly dick. i I actually sometimes... I have this thing where I like ugliness. Does that make sense? I've heard that from guys. Yeah, we're but we're going too far in. I want to stay on this topic. Stay into anal.
Speaker: or stay on dick appearance i think it's fine what the dick looks like i do actually think dick size is important like ideally average or above average because honestly i maybe it is because i've bottomed a lot i don't really feel anything unless Unless you know what you're doing.
Speaker: But the traditional like... Yeah, you gotta have some rhythm. You have a letter you have to be mindful. like you If you're somebody with a small dick, you probably have learned the tools of knowing how to like stimulate a bottom's prostate better than say... say about I think it's more about angles than size.
Speaker: It is angles. But then the thing is, is if the size is bigger, you're guaranteed that whatever the angle is, it's hitting. Actually, okay, so one time in Mexico, there was this massage therapist who I had sex with.
Speaker: I don't know. I say massage therapist because I feel like he had a good understanding of the anatomy of the body because that is, like, the one time I bought him for someone, and I felt no pain in the entire time.
Speaker: He was in and out, and it felt great. And it was like, whoa. So this is, like, someone who really knows what they're doing. Interesting. Interesting. Well, I'm sad that you're still in the phase where anal sex even is painful.
Speaker: I feel like it's not even painful anymore. Because maybe I think i've just like under I'm ah very attuned to my whole, that I know exactly how to like relax it at the specific moment.
Speaker: Because there's always hump. Where, like, it has to get through the second, like, sphincter. And then it just kind of, like, relaxes the whole time. Or maybe you need to, maybe you clench. do you clench? I think I get, I think maybe I'm in my head. i could see that.
Speaker: Yeah. But, girl, some of the dicks that have tried to go inside me, like, you just get, you're just like, how the fuck is that supposed to get in there? Yeah. yeah Honestly, isn't there, I think you can shove, like, I don't remember where I saw I don't even want to know.
Speaker: no This is an anti-gaping episode. Anti-gaping this podcast. We are all for sexual liberation, but if you're a gaper,
Speaker: There was a viral, like some white guy with a really cute face who went viral. I forget who it is. I know who it is. I was getting, you know him personally? No, no, no. I know exactly who you're talking about. Oh, I just found it so annoying because i just like, it's just, he's so plain in terms of attractiveness. Like he's hot, but that's so, he's so commonly hot. i was like, girl, you guys will talk about anything, but.
Speaker: Right. I would say it is it is an achievement for you to be able to do what you do. Girl, I didn't even see what he did. But it's it's like a feat. But it can't be good for you.
Speaker: Like, that's the thing. It can't be good for you. i'm like I'm, again, not shaming your kink if that's really what you need to do to get pleasure. But a part of me is like, there has to be consequences. I want to know...
Speaker: What we wish we'd earlier about preparing for anal sex? Emotionally, physically, or otherwise?
Speaker: is it yeah is it just you like shitting left and right you need the diaper like i like what is going on down there okay we can move on from but what do we wish we'd known earlier about preparing for anal sex emotionally physically or otherwise Emotionally, i can tell you, like, ah the first time I had sex in general was anal sex and I bottomed.
Speaker: And stay it was not good, girl. It was painful. He did not know what he was doing. I felt like I was like a tuna fish that was like flapping around begging for life.
Speaker: You're literally, oh my God, that's exactly how I felt. Yeah, I was like, please, God, what is going on? But then as soon as it was over, I was like, I want to do it again, but better. As in like, in my head, I knew there was, I knew there was a, there was more to this than just this fuck.
Speaker: But at the same time, I was like very disappointed. very much like i didn't feel pleasure. like It didn't feel erotic.
Speaker: i think you really have to let go of a lot to start to enjoy sex.
Speaker: Yeah, i I don't know if I, I don't know. It's also like compatibility. It's like people are like waves. And then if your wave is like interfering with my wave, sometimes it's like a matter of rhythm. And it's just like, girl, we're not on the same wavelength.
Speaker: Are you good at reading people's rhythm and matching it?
Speaker: No, but it's like, because it's like my, red like, I mean, like, I just feel like I'm the better leader. Like, people need to do what I'm doing. Because, like, yes, I can match the person that comes in hot and heavy and wants to go, like, within 10 seconds, but I don't want to do that.
Speaker: Right. I don't want to, like... I don't know. Like, I want to do it my way. And I'm thinking i'm more like, I'm getting i'm more like vanilla with it. So it's like, you know, there's a buildup, you know, there's like, there's some sensuality to it.
Speaker: And then maybe we can get crazier once we like, I see. We're like, is the heat of it. If you like what you like, like you are a creature of habits. I'm a creature of habit, but it's like, I'm also like a horse where it's like, you can lead me to water and I might drink, but like, don't lead me fucked up. Like if I get spooked on the way or whatever, but you can lead me there because there's been times where like the good sex I've had, where like a guy has gotten me to bottom by just kind of like taking control, but in a really smooth way where it's like, oh, this is happening now. And they do it in like,
Speaker: a way that's good enough to where it's like, oh, I can trust you to like do your thing. Do you just discuss beforehand? Like I'm going to top. You're going to top. We're going to, I'm going to box some blah, blah, blah.
Speaker: Or do you just like a little situation? Sometimes it's like, if it's a date and you're just hanging out, then obviously you don't talk about that before, but a hookup obviously. Yeah. Like hookups are more strict with because I tell guys and like, you're coming over just to blow me and then you're leaving.
Speaker: Yeah. And some people, which is fine to ask, try to ask for more. And then I'm just like, no, but don't ask me more than once.
Speaker: ah g Agreed. And leave after. Agreed. Oh my god, I agree. i agree. Please leave. But on my physically, to prepare, i think it's just like, get yourself up a bidet, use lots of lube, make them eat you out. Don't take don't accept just a finger.
Speaker: i think just being like fingered is so whack. Um... I actually don't enjoy. i really enjoy. Wetness is like just make everything wet and moist down there.
Speaker: And if you think it's wet and moist enough, a little bit more. And then also poppers. I mean, they're not legal. Use poppers. Yeah.
Speaker: And also, read too many. Because that shit can like fuck you up. ah Yeah, absolutely. It can make you brain dead. so like chemically burn you if you spill it on yourself yes yes yeah it's dangerous yeah i'll be careful but oh yeah do it responsibly um i was gonna say something oh use silicone based lube i feel like that works so much better for yeah don't cheap out and get astroglide yeah that shit does nothing that spits better than astroglide and also spit works well in a pinch
Speaker: It does. But just use a lot. Like, yeah go ham on that dick, girl. Like, get get it wet from base to tip. Lock Take that beta blocker, girl, and lock in on that dick.
Speaker: Put your hair behind your head like I do. it out your face. Yeah. get it out of your face yeah And, you know, and don't use... Okay, this is... No, we can't talk about blowjobs now. We're staying on eight. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker: We have to stay on eight now. We can have a separate blowjob episode maybe. and But that's it for me. Emotionally, to be honest, i don't really care that my I lost my virginity to a hookup and he was like a douchebag or whatever and I didn't really have a good time.
Speaker: I don't really care because at the time... I liked this other guy and I didn't want to have to tell him I was a virgin. So I quickly lost my virginity to this other guy. i was like kind of strategic with it. And thinking about that now, I would do the same thing again because it's really like, just get over the taboo of it. yeah Like, because you will have special sex with special people just because it's your first time. Does it mean like, Oh no, my first time wasn't special. Like but special moments don't depend on whether it was your first time or not.
Speaker: I agree. And honestly, like sex, the part of the enjoyment of it is that, at least for me, I like variety and I like differences. So some of the most memorable sex I've had has been in situations where it's not the sex, it's everything around it.
Speaker: Like, for example, going to a going to a music festival, like taking acid, yeah blah, blah, blah. And then the sex after. And then like, you know, like that shapes it, like the whole journey. It's not just the actual conversation.
Speaker: Yeah. the like there There's like an element of trust there. it Because like, so yeah, sex is just a physical action. Right, right. I will say I have this thing where, aside from my relationships, I tend to, I rarely hook up with the same person twice.
Speaker: And I think it's also that desire of variety. When I hook up with other people, I do it because of variety. So for me, I wouldn't want to hook up with someone more than once. Like, I've had so many people where I hook up with them, and I'm like, okay this was great. Like, we do chat a little, and then they're leaving,
Speaker: And then the next day they're hitting me up like, want to do that again? I'm like, the fuck? Wait, no. Because that people, because there's always some level of like emotional, like they liked it and they want more. You know what I mean? It's like having a ah food that you like.
Speaker: But to me, it'll tarnish the initial experience because I i like. No, this is a boundary for your relationship, girl. Oh, ah fair. Yeah, fair. But I also don't, I know myself, even if I wasn't in a relationship, if I was going into something as a hookup, not intended to like date them.
Speaker: ah You might fall in love with a hookup, but you aren't, but but that's not going to happen now because you're shut off to that. But if you were single, i think you would fall in love with a hookup. Maybe.
Speaker: I don't know. I think it could happen because anything could happen. You fall in love with a hookup because that that happens because then you just start talking and maybe they did such a good job the first time because then at that this point you're single. So why can't you hook up?
Speaker: But see, my thing is, and again, this is probably something that's my issue, is that if I get to know you, I no longer want to hook up with you. like i So how do you date? but That's the thing. Dating, by the way, and John was so patient with me. Like, kudos.
Speaker: iowa I was, am not an easy person to date. Like, I had i maintenance i am high maintenance and so annoying and I had so much baggage. And like, the more I got to know someone, the harder it was for me to sexualize them because of how I viewed sex and intimacy.
Speaker: I didn't view it as like this loving thing. So like, it was weird to me thinking, oh my God, this person that I know now, is going to see me naked. That's so weird. Like that was my shame, I guess.
Speaker: But um what's it called? He was he was just very patient with me. And honestly, I had to like really be mindful and like communicate. I think that's in a in a successful sexual relationship.
Speaker: It's all about communication. But in in hookups, I don't want to communicate. I'm not trying to get to know you. And if I get to know you, I'm sorry, I'm not going to see you sexually. any For me, it's different. if I know. Like some people are like, they need them if I get to know, the more I get to know someone, if i like what I'm getting to know and you're the right,
Speaker: presentation like which is like a lot there's a lot of variety I'm into in terms of presentation i could be like oh this is sexy like to me i think it's like the physical part of your body is like it matters to a degree like there's a like you have to be let's say like a six or higher in terms of body T and then the rest of it is like kind of you you can create your you can like turn me on or turn me off I mean what you're describing is very healthy i feel like that's Guys, literally, again, i feel like I'm so fucking normal and most people out there are fucked up demon people that need therapy. Yeah. I definitely need therapy. I can't wait. And I seem like the crazy one because most people are fucked up demons.
Speaker: Right. Right. That was like the pre-schizophrenic. Like, later Khalid went on to, like, kill 30 people say saying they were demons and he was like, Jesus.
Speaker: Wait, question. How tall are you? Five, nine. Oh, cute. Oh, my God. That's so cute. I'm six one I don't know if it shows. You don't give tall. I know. I know. I bet I don't.
Speaker: i was goingnna I was actually thinking that. I'm mostly, like, 5'9", 5'10". It's, like, up for discrepancy. Right. Not that it makes a difference for you being 6'1". and No, but that's so funny because I swear I had no idea...
Speaker: Like in my mind. how So that like, you know what I mean? Like I was thinking about that. I was like, I don't know how tall Khadil is, which is not a big deal, obviously. But I was just like thinking like, what if like I see you and you're like on the floor? But this so this like solidifies. is far did Do I now do do I seem short? it Is that short? I feel like I'm average. so I'm just like on average. I feel like all my friends here oh for some all my gay Palestinian friends in New York are like five, eight, five, nine Yeah.
Speaker: I think that's the average height for our kinds. But if you go back home, they're really short.
Speaker: They are. I think, yeah, it's just my uncles, for some reason, are giants. My dad and my brother are both... My dad and my brother are, like, both 6 feet and six one respectively. I just got my... I just got... I didn't get unlucky. I just feel like I'm just...
Speaker: Also, i feel like there's pros and cons to both. But you also did really solidify yourself as the hot host by being like, yeah, I'm also 6-2. six two No, but 6-1.
Speaker: 6-1. But then also, I feel like as a bottom, my problem is is that... You're not a bottom, though. You're verse. Oh, verse. But like if I am going out to bottom.
Speaker: Oh, no one wants to top you. That's not true. It's true. If they're shorter than me, if they're shorter than me, so many guys have this thing, I think, where they like don't see me as like probably wanting to bottom.
Speaker: And also it doesn't help that I have the flattest ass on planet. Being hot also doesn't mean you're going to have better or more sex. but That is true. and Also, the thing, to it it's all mental.
Speaker: It's all a mental game in terms of getting someone to have anal sex with you and having the anal sex. Yeah. Confidence is key. Agreed. Confidence is very key.
Speaker: Confidence is key, but also something I learned as a baby gay is that you do have to, like, for example, And I'm curious what you think.
Speaker: My Grindr profile used to just be, like, posing in a mirror, abs, like, very, like, as in, like, very, quote-unquote, masculine.
Speaker: Well, the classic torso pic. ah Right, but then I got advice from someone who was, like, if you want to bottom more, you're gonna have to, like... exaggerate curves.
Speaker: You know, you're going to want to look... givey bought Give bottom. Give bottom, exactly. And giving bottom is actually so important since if you want to bottom. Like, it's not just about... You know what I mean? Like you gotta, I don't know. I feel like I give Dom Daddy top and I still find guys who really want to, I don't know. I feel like I can do whatever i want.
Speaker: It's never been an issue for me. Hell yeah. I've had my pick of variety.
Speaker: I don't think so. But I do, a lot of guys do come to me thinking like I'm, you know, Dom Daddy Top. But like I, if I want a bottom, I feel like it, yeah all it'll come.
Speaker: It also comes. It's like, I'm not. But I also like, I have a nice, i have a really nice ass. I don't. I have such a nice ass. And like, on it I was about to say, I don't know why it's embarrassing to for me to say I have a nice dick.
Speaker: It feels like egotistical. Yeah. Everything else you say and this is what feels egotistical. You're like, a little the best but I'm the best host here. I'm amazing. I above but i don't both like don't give... I'm a better top than I am a bottom. But I will say i have yeah i have a really i really nice private parts.
Speaker: Good for you. I, I, I, yeah. I'm like truly a blessing. I, maybe I'm like a bit of like a, like a top pillow, top pillow bottom because I'm like, literally my presence is the present. Like what's a pillow top.
Speaker: I know what i a pillow bottom is. Like, I don't really like doing too much. ah Like, I'm kind of like, I'm like a one positioner. Like, honestly, I like, I'm like low key. I'm like kind of out of myself as like, I'm not bad at sex. Cause if I put in the effort, you will have the best time of your life, but I want to come in five minutes.
Speaker: You know what I mean? Like, do you get sure that a breath I'm going to put you in doggy or missionary and do my thing. And like, if you don't finish at the same time, like too bad. i really like, I do eat whole, but like, I don't really want to, I do suck dick, but I don't really want to.
Speaker: That's the thing. I have to actually like you romantically to want to put in the effort. Like I like kissing, but if we're hooking up, it's like, I don't really want to. Cause it's like, I don't know you. i don't want to have my tongue all up in there. Like for that long. Like i don't want to be said like tongues.
Speaker: see But I thought you said you liked the foreplay part of it more. Yeah, but now I think I've been craving more intimacy. So it's like when I'm hooking up, it's much more utilitarian. Like, that's why I usually only come in guys' mouths and they don't do it. I don't do anything else.
Speaker: It's like you just come over and blow me. And like, because I just get what I want. And I don't have to like... spend oh introduce at some point it will like I'm not anti hookup at all but for me and how I'm built it was like taking away from my soul so like have full-blown sex with people and then they literally disappear into the night I think it's easier to just like have that and then because then you inadvertently have really good sex with someone and then maybe they stay the whole night. Oh, I see.
Speaker: It like fucks with your head too much. It's like better. So you like view them more as like a sex toy. that you're like viewing them as more like your function is mouth right now like that's it but see I don't like that I don't like to I love the you see your hookups as people and no I actually don't see them as people they're you see that as full body so i see them as full body in the sense like i like the whole process like of getting to it like i like body contact and bubble but not in not in the wild don't you fucking touch me if we're on a dance floor i think i've said this before if it's sex great but if we're out in the wild don't touch me unless i've like made it very clear that you can anyway um
Speaker: Where was I going with this? Yeah, it's so fascinating how people like different things. They really do. Like I actually prefer strokes. Yeah, I prefer it to not just be one thing that we're doing because then it gets so clinical.
Speaker: And I feel like that that's what you're describing as ut tell utilitarian. I feel like I like when it feels very spontaneous and very like, Like we're moving with a Like i I need the other person to also be confident in themselves.
Speaker: It's the rhythm. Yeah, I need exactly. I need them to not second guess what they're doing. Yes. Oh my God. Yes. Confidence in the movement. Because then it's like if you like sometimes people will put their hand down and then it like punches you. yeah yeah yeah it's like oh it's like oh I'm going this way you're going this way and then you get a need in like rubble walls or something yeah read it's not girl no this is we're not on the same like we're not our energies just aren't connecting so you really really have to read body language don't wait for me to tell you what to do or like what position I like read my body language like I'm read my fucking mind bitch and if we're the right match you'll guess it right exactly exactly
Speaker: No, truly, truly. It's a psychic process. Okay, we're like kind like, this episode might be a little longer than normal because I feel like we have maybe two or three more good talking points. but And this this next one might take a while.
Speaker: How do we reconcile spiritual or religious identities with sexual practices that are often considered taboo, such as anal? how do it Like, do you have like a... Because a lot of people in our comments when I do post queer Muslim stuff are very like, story of loot, story of loot. Like, what is your... Do you care about them? Do you have a response to them?
Speaker: Do you have like a intellectual rebuttal or do what what is your... So if if we're talking like scripture, like if we want to like really dig into the weeds, many people use this argument like Aum Lut specifically. It wasn't just anal sex.
Speaker: They were doing other things. They were like stealing from their neighbors. They were raping. They were committing incest. They were like, you know, that's what they were being punished for.
Speaker: it's not necessarily anal receptive sex. Like that's not like God does not give two shits. And maybe that's just something I've just like come to terms with my own spirituality.
Speaker: i don't think God gives two shits. Like, I mean, again, like if you are queen of the universe, what do you care about what the ants are doing?
Speaker: Right. And on top of that, on top of that, maybe at some point it made sense to like frown upon it the same way that eating pork made sense to frown upon because it caused tapeworm.
Speaker: But now with medical science and the technology and advancements, we have prep, we have condoms. But it wasn't frowned upon, though. There's records. oh What was? Anal sex? Islamic Empire. They are um they they were fucking... It's the identity thing that had people pissed off.
Speaker: That I think, personally. i think it's... But the thing is, is even in the Quran, I'm paraphrasing, but there's a scripture that talks about like who a woman is allowed to like be seen without a hijab, for example, or not a hijab. Oh, you're talking about something? Yes. Men who have no desire.
Speaker: yeah And it's like, who are men who have no desire? Eunuchs? like ah asexual people, ah gay people, you know, like, yeah. So it's honestly, I think I don't want to go there because I'm going to lose.
Speaker: I don't know the Quran verbatim, but I think more than that, my soul and heart tells me that me doing this thing while still being a fucking good person is not going to be the reason I go to hell.
Speaker: Period. I personally think, I mean, I agree with everything that you said. My one trump card is, and I will take it to the bank with like, bring me your, bring, bring your baddest bitch out Islamic scholars, because answer this question.
Speaker: Why is it, does it say that the actions of the people of Lut have never been committed before them? They say they, they're, that's a key part of the story. i I don't even speak Arabi fluently. I can't even read the Quran, but I know this shit's in there.
Speaker: It was never committed before them. But you can look into societies that existed before the Society of Lut did, and they were gay people. There's, like, two gay mummies buried to each other in ancient Mesopotamia. Like, people have been... You're telling me, like, cave...
Speaker: like bitches in caves weren't like trying it in the ass. Yeah. Like you're like you're kidding yourselves unless the people of loot were like the first fucking society that counted as humans, which we already know is not true. Oh, true. you're and tell You're really trying to tell me from those however many thousands, tens of thousands of years, not not one boy and another boy got a little curious, maybe even slipped.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Like, look kill yourself. Yeah. And then but also, i want to say that don't like if you have religious ideations or thoughts of like us being like sinful and wrong, just leave.
Speaker: Just don't don't give us your energy. Like, why? Why are you watching this? You know, like why why are you even here? Like, just go somewhere else. You know, like, we get it. You don't like us. It's fine. We don't need you to like you. We're not trying to convert people into gay, to become, like, faggots. You can do what you want. But if you are take up weapons and attack the straights. This is the gay agenda. This is the message. This is the time. Now. Now is the time. If you watch this long, arm the gays.
Speaker: We're trying to mobilize. Yeah. Okay, Slay, do you have any funny, weird, or memorable any so anal sex stories you want to say Let me think. Funny or memorable?
Speaker: mean, I've had a lot of good stories, but I'm not going to share any of that. um
Speaker: What has been the biggest number of people you've hooked up with at the same time? Well, I've been in full-blown orgies with, like, lots of men around. I've actually never been in an orgy. That might surprise you.
Speaker: It does, actually. yeah I would want to. like um I feel like they're so vanilla because it's literally just like, imagine having sex, but just like there's lots of people. Right. That's what I imagine. See, I think that's my thing is that so all of them are not involved at the same time. They're just doing their own thing.
Speaker: Right. Literally. I think the most. It be like, it can become a group. Like it just, ah it's like a house party. I don't know. It's like a house party, but everyone's fucking. That's so interesting.
Speaker: For me, it's just like four people, which I think are four or five, maybe five. But I think, yeah, that's it. Probably. the Yeah, i've had so I've had some good times.
Speaker: Yeah, honestly, like that makes me happy. Like thinking I've really experienced a lot of things that I feel like straight people don't get to experience because they're so closed off in the idea of just like one and two.
Speaker: You know, it's good to be gay. My funny story is there is one time I think I was at a bathhouse. Oh, wait, I've been to a bathhouse.
Speaker: Does that sound like an orgy? I let what an orgy kind of is. You're right. So I've been. ah Yes. Okay. Anyway, continue. So I just remember this one guy was trying to have sex with me and I was down. But then as I was like in my little like arch back, whatever, i was like, honestly, I could really not do this.
Speaker: And he was like, you know, and so it feels like someone's like literally trying to put it in your back.
Speaker: And you're just like, like, then you have to tell them lower, or lower, whatever you have to help. ma was like, you know what? Let me just like not help this guy out. And like, to see how you just get got there. I've done, ah you know what? I've was done that before too.
Speaker: Cause I'm just like, i don't really want to. And then he like tried for a couple of minutes and then he like took, as soon as he took a pause, i just turned around. was like, I don't think it's going to work.
Speaker: You know what? I've. Yeah. Oh, have you had like hookup stories where you go there and they're not. This is kind of deviating from the topic, but like they want fish, the catfish and they look yeah very different.
Speaker: Yeah. One time I said I left my wallet somewhere and and I just walked out. But now I don't even make up an excuse. I'm just like, no. Yeah, I think i'm I'm actually like craving my next catfish experience to do exactly what you're saying.
Speaker: I want ah I want to actually be like, fuck you. like you if No, no, no. I don't think you should say fuck you. No, I mean, like, i like mentally fuck you. But like, I'd be like, oh, sorry, not feeling it. Bye. Like, yeah.
Speaker: And they i know exactly what they did. They know what they did. It's fine. It's fine. Like, that's the thing. Like, when you know you're right, you don't need to, like, right beat someone when they're down.
Speaker: Right. That's what I mean. Yeah. Like, that's a whole different topic for a whole different other place. It really is. Yeah. Because there's some nasty bitches out there.
Speaker: There are. You guys can lie. I hate liars. Yeah, and you know who you are, liars.
Speaker: Is this the anal sex episode? This is the anal sex episode. Yeah. Oh, wait. guy walk I want to do media moments. Oh, yeah. People do fuck with that.
Speaker: That's how you know people are getting to the end of the episodes. No, but the thing is, is you're posting them as reels, no? I never post the media. Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right. That's not a highlight.
Speaker: You're right. so are How am I going to go viral? No, you're right. You're right. Are you familiar with Ali and AJ? Yes, I am. I've heard that name. You know, like, into the rush now, you don't know how.
Speaker: Yeah, so they released a new album recently. It's called Silver Deliverer, and it's really good. I'm going to see them in concert in October. got tickets. Oh, exciting.
Speaker: Let me see what I have spinning. Honestly, I've been into music. I've been in a music. Drought. Slump. Drought.
Speaker: I'm going to just check my on repeat. It's literally the same as like the last. Every time we talk about a media moment, I'm like, I'm listening. It's going to be bad, baby. But no, okay, there's different people on there besides Bad Baby, but Bad Baby OG Crash Out is still number two on my on repeat.
Speaker: Number one is Calamantina by Saint Laurent. That song literally is good. Calamantina, it is good. I have a baby Morocco song, third, SXC. The song I actually wanted to talk about is this.
Speaker: It's a Thai, like hip hop pop song.
Speaker: Gunner? know. yeah it's honestly it's so fun would that response me i love thai as the language so i feel like the only thai song i know unfortunately scream which is uh grimes a grime song and she has a thai rapper in it and it's pretty good but we don't like grimes um Okay, is Grimes and FKA Twigs, like, not kind of the same person?
Speaker: Come on. Are you insane? Sorry. are you I did not even say that to piss you off, but it just it's a thought that came to my head. No difference. Oh, my God. We won't even discuss.
Speaker: Sound off below if you see you kind of know what I mean, though. if Oh, you're you're leading them on. You're you're like pushing them to it. No, I'm not. I just said it. And I just said, if anyone knows what I mean.
Speaker: There's a track that I ah listen to. we can we can end that We can end the thing. I'm going to look for something that I think you would like. Okay. Well, we have to say bye.
Speaker: buy olives. Bye. Do you like, subscribe, share the podcast? Support. Love you guys. Stay sexy. Peace. Bye.
