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EP. 18 Basket Case (1982)/When Evil Lurks (2023)
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Come for the Basket Case review, stay for an all time rant from Nick on When Evil Lurks!
The guys also discuss their recent physical media pick ups.
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Introduction to Episode 18
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to episode 18 of the Two Guys One Screen podcast. My name is Nick. And I'm Gerald. And today, we are reviewing a ah horror gem, I guess. I don't know about a gem, but it was a gem. Cult classic? it was There's definitely a cult following. I mean, Steelbook Obsessed's letterbox review is pretty, you know, like you're either going to love this movie or hate this movie.
00:00:30
Speaker
He gave it a four. That's high.
Blu-ray vs. Streaming: The Great Debate
00:00:34
Speaker
A little high. um Yeah, basket cases. ah How this did you buy it? Blind buy it? Or did you? Because you told me about it. Yeah. I bought and bought it. um And you bought what? a So what did you get? What was out? What kind of copy was it?
00:01:03
Speaker
Did you stream it? Yes. On shutter? Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. I don't know. I was guessing. But then i hundred percent I didn't watch it with you, did I? Or we did? No. Okay. Um, I'm pretty sure when you found the Blu-ray for me, isn't that when you watched it? I found a Blu-ray for you. Yeah. The arrow Blu-ray.
00:01:32
Speaker
Oh I got it for you for for your birthday or Christmas, one of the two. Right. Okay. And I'm pretty sure that's how, that's when you watch it. It's got the slip. It has the way, the slip is way better than the 4K. In my opinion, I mean, I don't know what you think, but I like it way more. I thought the movie looked good on the Blu-ray, honestly. Did you watch the 4K this time? No, I don't have it.
00:01:56
Speaker
Oh, you didn't i I oh, so I bought it on the 4k. I forgot you bought a 4k arrow 4k. Yeah I just have the or arrow blu-ray, but it is a 4k scan Right. I mean I've been complaining that movies look too dark on my television and I changed to some of the picture settings So it didn't look as terrible.
4K Versus Blu-ray: Is It Worth It?
00:02:15
Speaker
I think it looks good. I mean yeah For the listener Gerald already knows this but like 4k versus blu-ray for me. I have a 4k player I'm not picking out massive differences. I think Some of the older movies, particularly ones that are in black and white, really are are benefited by a 4K. Oh, yeah, they pop. The Creature from Black Lagoon, I think, is like one of the best looking 4Ks that I've seen with my own eyeballs. But granted, I don't buy a lot of 4K discs. I'll just get a Blu-ray. Unless it's a 4K field book, then, you know. Right. Animation looks really good, too. Sure. Even like modern animation, ah just the colors really pop on 4K.
00:02:55
Speaker
but I'm kind of with you nowadays. I feel like I was buying everything. If it had a 4K, I was just kind of buying it. Yeah. Now it's like getting to the point in my collection where I'm like, do I need to spend like the extra like $10 for this 4K? Probably not. I'm happy you've come around. ah Yeah. Like when we started, I was only buying 4Ks. If it was like two or three bucks more than the Blu-ray and was like used or something, I'd do that. Now it's like, yeah.
00:03:26
Speaker
ah But at the same point, like if because certain four K's or more, especially from boutiques, right? But like if it's like, say, I don't know. I don't know a movie. Long legs. That's a good one. The four K was only like five dollars more. So I'm like, why not? You know, also, this is very stupid, but the black Blu-ray case looks better than the blue one with that packaging. Oh, oh, with the red slit. yeah I look so much better. You can't have that blue stuff like a fucking loser.
00:03:56
Speaker
That's the thing with physical media though, isn't it all about the packaging? Yeah, and mid-level media posted a really interesting video about that. He was like, oh, I bought this Strangers Chapter 1 steel book because I think the packaging was amazing. Is the movie pretty bad? Yes, but the packaging is awesome. ah That's a sad reality that we live in, huh?
Movie Packaging: Does It Matter?
00:04:16
Speaker
It is. And speaking of the Strangers, I watched a better movie than The Strangers called Hush.
00:04:22
Speaker
Damn straight. Yo, did you preorder the fucking 4k now? I'm waiting for some some funds. Oh, that's fine. Yeah. But that's my my goal. Yeah. I mean, I wrote my review. My physical media level of excitement for that is now like a thousand movie fucking rips. That movie is unsettling, man.
00:04:42
Speaker
Unsettling I'm glad I'm really glad that movie really bothers me to a degree the strangers could not Especially like what I've been thinking about because I've watched it now. I think it was three or four days ago at this point. I I'm still thinking about the scene where she writes the lipstick on the the door and she's like I won't tell anybody I didn't see your face my boyfriend's coming home and the guy walks over just looking at the The message and he just takes his mask off and just stares her down that shit made me so uncomfortable Like, Mike Flanagan, you cook, dude. Yeah, so ah me, along with probably like a lot of people, ah it got released back in the day on Netflix. Yeah. And like, that was the only way to watch it. I think that's now the only case, right? It's on Shutter now, but you can't watch it on Shutter. Yeah. Yeah. And then Netflix eventually like took it off and it was just gone. Like, you couldn't watch it like at all. Right.
00:05:38
Speaker
So I thought I was like in like the minority. I was like, yo, I saw this crazy ass fucking home invasion movie. Like it was so good. and And then when Screen Factory finally announced that they were putting it out on physical and it was going to be available on digital. Big. I was like, people, people got to watch this, man. I've been meaning to watch it for a while. Uh, I've already shut them out once, but I'll shut them out again. House of Cinema did a ah Mike Flanagan month. They didn't cover this movie, but they talked about it briefly because they didn't cover it because you can't stream it.
00:06:08
Speaker
Right. But I've just heard so much talk about this ah movie. I was like, I got to watch this. Do you like do you like Hush more than Strangers? or Is it closer for you than it is for me? No, I I like Hush more than the Strangers, even though I like the Strangers. OK, I ended up giving Hush a four. I think on a rewatch, she'll be even higher. and That movie is fucking great. um All right. Should we do a little plug it in, plug it in? Sure. Follow us on Instagram.
00:06:37
Speaker
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Copyright Issues on TikTok
00:06:50
Speaker
I don't know what the fuck's going on. ah But our TikTok is also Two Guys One Screen. I believe the username is Two Guys One Screen Pod. Live check for you.
00:07:04
Speaker
It's very upsetting, man. We were getting crazy views for an unknown podcast. ah Yeah, it's at two dot guys dot one dot screen. I don't know. I don't know why TikTok did that. but That's what it is. um I posted a clip that's also on. Did you post a joke clip? No, right. Oh, you told me not to. I posted a clip about our conversation on Joker. Fuck that movie ah and.
00:07:33
Speaker
It got flagged for copyright infringement, which is, the video is no different than the videos I normally but make for us. And that got flagged on a Friday, and then we it's today's Monday. Hopefully we hear back, but I posted a different clip from the Bridge of Terbithia episode. And that's been at zero views for like three days. Four days, whatever it is. Yeah, free our account TikTok if you're listening. Yeah, hashtag free two guys once green. Free two, it's a clip.
00:08:02
Speaker
fruit out what's great We've got to get that on merch. FreeTube has added hashtag justice for Bob. Absolutely. um So anyways, that's live. Also, our YouTube page is live. I have not been using that because the views do not, we're not hitting the way TikTok and Instagram reels were. ah But we'll link, I think I've already linked TikTok in a pre prior episode and I'll link YouTube as well.
00:08:30
Speaker
ah And if anybody yeah more Acquaint with tiktok than us tell us ah how to get around those copyright claims, you know, how do you avoid those? I think like you were texting before it's luck of the draw because I mean there's videos that are like the exact same thing before it and they That they have almost a thousand views each Maybe DC is
Halloween Plans and Media Purchases
00:08:53
Speaker
really uh, I think some butt-hurt pussy who hadn't seen the movie yet reported it. That's what I think It's got to be what it is. Right? That's what I thought because There's not like companies out here, right? They're not gonna They're not having people watch like random tiktok striking you down for a 30 second clip that's see I don't know they could be but the thing is like Tiktok in particular people post videos of them like filming the movie in the theater and you see those and movies get ruined for people and I post a clip that I found on YouTube that was from the trailer and
00:09:29
Speaker
And it I mean, granted, it is copyright. I'm not saying it's not. I'm just saying people do this all the time. And our one show in my one video gets our account fucked. Like, oh, good, good example. You just mentioned people filming shit. The when Deadpool and Wolverine came out. Oh, my God. That was everywhere. That was big spoilers. chris But that became like a big meme. and Chris Evans were revealed to. Yeah, like. So I don't think those people are getting struck down.
00:09:57
Speaker
No, I'm not saying we're being targeted. I'm just saying it sucks because our accounts small. Hopefully next week. Well, actually, you won't know next week because that next the next episode has already been recorded. um We'll have an answer for you guys soon. what what What's going on? And by soon, at probably three weeks from now. Three weeks from now because everything's been recorded. Spoiler, we're going on a break next week. All right, we're at Halloween party, though.
00:10:24
Speaker
Well, yeah, we're going to be having fun. You just, you know, we'll have some more physical media pickups than we normally have, which talk about it. Talk about a transition. Oh, transition for sure. Do you want to go? You want me to go? Well, I'll
Recent Blu-ray Acquisitions
00:10:41
Speaker
go. We can both say the one we both got, which unfortunately didn't make it here in time for our episode.
00:10:48
Speaker
No, but it still came earlier than expected. Right. But this has happened before, for me at least, when you pre-order, you get a little bit early. um The Trick or Treat 4K from Arrow. and I don't know why I'm showing you. you know I know. For the viewers, I can't see.
00:11:07
Speaker
ah You texted me because you were like, I didn't get all the drawings that they promised me. And I was like, that's weird. And then you're like, Oh, it's inside. And then literally dude, I got home from work the night and it was, I opened it. I'm like, where the fuck is all this stuff? I was like, where's it all? And then I opened it. I'm like, Oh yeah. Okay. Cause my fiance came with like a small, it was a small ass box. Yeah. And she's like, she's like, I thought cause she knows my scream factory. I finally told her I spent a lot of money. Yeah. yeah I was like, cause I have a poster in that one. right And normally they're long john silvers.
00:11:40
Speaker
um
00:11:44
Speaker
thats so fucking wow yeah first use yeah oh and I was like I read the box and I was like oh arrow and I opened it and I was like what the fuck where's my poster where's my book which this is some more beef that I have arrow can you guys make your posters one all the same size Two, a regular size dimension for a frame. Have you, um by chance, measured the poster dimensions and then tried to find a frame for online? It's not a common size. It's not a common size. Because i you got your basket case one, right? and Yeah. And I was going to ask, it's the same size? Uh-huh. What size frame do you have to get? You got to trim it, you said, right? I don't want to trim this. No, I want to buy a frame that actually fits it.
00:12:29
Speaker
Right. I like the, cause I'm not going to do this spoiler alert or not spoiler, but for the audience, you can't see, I'm not going to use that one. I want to use the the new one. Yeah. I was actually going to use the OG one. I was going to use this one. That's fair. I don't, you know, I don't like, it doesn't have arrow on the poster. I didn't even peep that. Well, I was looking for it and I was like, there's no arrow. Uh, logo. I don't think shout factor does that either.
00:12:58
Speaker
No, but I really haven't looked at evil dead Poster like more than five minutes. I don't think it's on there though I'm pretty sure but I I'm always distracted by the the paper they put in there that has like screen factory all over it Oh, those are nice. Yeah, no pun intended, but shout out to screen factory and shout factory um Yes, we we both got that this week ah you can go with the rest of your John's So last week ah We both went hunting for the Nightmare on Elm Street 4K. Spoiler, confined it. Not even a 4K disc. Yeah, nothing. Nothing. ah But in my travels, I drove like 30 minutes away to a and a Walmart. You and me both.
00:13:40
Speaker
Um, didn't find that, but I find the five nights at Freddy's 4k steel book. Hey you look at that. Kind of looks like a pizza, right? Like pizza, big Chuck E. Cheese vibes. It does give Chuck E. Cheese vibes. Yeah. I haven't seen their pizza was good. I don't know what everybody's complaining about as a kid. Yeah. Right. That was good. I don't, whatever. Uh,
00:14:03
Speaker
I've heard mixed opinions on this movie, I haven't seen it. ah But my boy is in it, Matthew Lillard. Shout out Matthew Lillard. Right. Love Matthew Lillard. And on to the boutique label. ah Along with the Five Nights at Freddy's, I found the... i was I was like looking down, like you see downwards a little bit. I was trying to see. ah The 4K Steel Book for The Strangers.
00:14:34
Speaker
by Shout Factory. That's the original one? Yeah. Yeah, man, that's cool. I'm not a big fan. I'm not. I know I'm not. It's nice that the, for well, the 4K only has the unrated version, but why are you watching any other version, to be fair? It's like drinking Diet Coke. Just drink real Coke. Just give me the whole, yeah. You know what I mean? That's another thing that pisses me off about all this shit, right?
00:15:02
Speaker
yeah okay Diet Coke. Diet Pepsi. It's not bad. It's not bad. Right. OK. And now if you're into like, you know, low sugar type johns or whatever, right. Well, it's just funny. Pepsi zero sugar tastes exactly like regular Pepsi. OK. So you're saying i want that a diet.
00:15:30
Speaker
Do that, right? Because diet is worse for you because it has aspartame, all right? People, aspartame gives you cancer. Maybe ass cancer, aspartame, okay? Hello. Zero sugar has suc, suc, suclorose. You know what that is? Damn, dude, you just lost all credibility trying to pronounce that word. Fuck it, I don't care. We shoot from the hip, all right? It is also an artificial sweetener, but it's better for you and it makes it taste like real Pepsi, all right?
00:15:59
Speaker
If you must drink Coke, drink Coke Zero, it's not terrible. I was going to ask you if you had Coke Zero. Coke Zero's not terrible. ah And then if you really want to live your life to the fullest, you get McDonald's Coke. That's the best Coke out there. You know what's crazy? What? It is the best Coke out there, right? Yeah. But their Diet Coke is even worse than the canned Diet Coke. I have no opinion on that. I just think Diet Coke is terrible.
00:16:26
Speaker
Well, Anna got it one day and I accidentally took a sip of it because she got diet. I got regular. I was like, oh, you ever go into the drive through and you, uh, you, you place your order, you come through and you're like, I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get this Coke. They hand you the drink and you sip in his diet Coke. Talk about it. Oh, it's like fucking piss me the fuck off. Oh, I've parked and gone back into the store and be like, this is the wrong fucking thing. You assholes.
00:16:54
Speaker
Oh, you have to. Yeah, you have to. um Anyways, Diet Coke's terrible. Give us the whole thing. Fuck out of here with that shit. I wanted to ask because I thought I saw it on there. Does that come with a digi? Did it say that on the top? No.
00:17:08
Speaker
ah Okay, they never do that, right? I don't think so uh snaf does if you want the five nights at Freddy's digi I have no interest in that movie. Sorry um Last week I talked about watching Or the week before whatever whatever episode that was ah Ford verse Ferrari. I was able to find that on blu-ray It's got a slip And yeah, it's a great movie. Check it out if you haven't seen it. Shout out to Jayce again, like 13. That's not bad. i was It was used. And another one, this ties into our conversation about 4K. I wrote in the notes that I was looking for this, preferably the 4K steel book, but I found this and I couldn't help myself because I'm like, I'm never going to find the 4K steel book. And when I do, I'll just trade this in. Blu-ray steel for total recall.
00:17:58
Speaker
Oh, 10 bucks. There you go. Yeah.
Zombie Movie Recommendations
00:18:03
Speaker
That's on the wall. I think the front's kind of mid. I don't know. This movie fucks though. I love Total Recall. It actually ties into Bash Case a little bit because that dude has that little John. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? You big Arnold guy. You like Arnold?
00:18:20
Speaker
um Yeah, I mean i he's hit or miss for me. I like The Terminator franchise. I don't think I think I'm lower on a terminator than most people are I've seen like commandos fine predator predator is Predator it's fine It's fine for me. I don't know I've watched it again. I I haven't watched that we pray yet either that came out the prequel. Oh Yeah, I heard that's actually very good. I think total recall is probably my favorite Arnold movie
00:18:53
Speaker
which is hot because he was in Terminator. And people think T2 is like a masterpiece. It's good. I like it. I had the 4K steel on my wall. It's right there. I do, and that's a terrible transfer. It's a gorgeous looking steel book, but it's all it is. Hopefully the Terminator 1 4K transfer is better. Which, good luck finding the steel for that. I didn't pre-order that one. that's I'm not going to look for the steel. and a be I'll just lock umll just get the 4K.
00:19:22
Speaker
Yeah. Speak mom releases. Go ahead. What? You have more? Go ahead. No, I I actually just thought of this on the spot. You're going to be here next week. Mm hmm. We might have to take a trip to Barnes and Noble. Be up in that pussy. What? We might have to take a trip to Barnes and Noble if we're trying to get those. ah Those johns, those M night. Are they out on there? They will be tomorrow.
00:19:51
Speaker
Oh, fuck. That's tomorrow. Yeah. All right. Well. um Yeah. It's a John Wick. Yeah. ah Yeah, I'll go. like I might have to go there for my new releases now. because I'm Walmart's. I'm going to tell myself I'm going to go tomorrow morning and then I'm going to find nothing because Walmart's eating dicks. Yeah. On physical media release. So ah they still have those Halloween.
00:20:21
Speaker
Special release good books. They put out my Walmart still has them out. That's all I have windows to if they Yeah, I mean if they discount them, maybe I'll get a couple Yeah for I would be game for that But most movies they put out I already own Yeah, me too also I guess we can cut this part, but did you see what I sent you that Umbrella's doing a 4K release for all of Terrifier? I did. That is hype, because the Steel Book for Terrifier 3 looks like Garbaggio. Is it? Is it Terrifier 3, or is it all 3? No, it's all 3. It's all 3 of them. It's a pack? That's what they said. Well, they're not going to announce the announcement until Thursday, but I believe...
00:21:08
Speaker
They're a day ahead of us. I believe that the Wednesday are Wednesday. Shit, shit. Yeah, but I'm already I already got some other stuff that I want to get from umbrella. So I'm going to probably do what you do. It's screen both umbrella. Oh, yeah, because international shipping. Crazy, crazy international shipping. But I missed out on the art. They did a special release for Terrifier 2. And I missed out on that. So it's probably going to be what, Buck 50, probably.
00:21:38
Speaker
Don't say that to me, man. I'm trying to have good vibes going into this. Hey, man. i want That's a realistic expectation, honestly. I just i don't want to think that. I wanted to buy the Hell House LLC collection. Yeah. That shit was like $90. I'm like, Hell House submit, though. The first one and the prequel are good. I i gave the first one a three star. It was fine. I don't think it's just, it's, yeah. It's above average on found out. I got to watch that movie. I do, too.
00:22:07
Speaker
um Speaking of Art the Clown, though, ah he really hats at the mainstream. And I watched his movie last night ah that you've already seen.
Critique of 'When Evil Lurks'
00:22:21
Speaker
And I was like, oh, you know he's probably just in the minority. ah When Evil Lurks. Let me say something to ah all the folks out there, OK?
00:22:33
Speaker
This film has a 3.5 average on Letterboxd. The Terrifier, whatever Terrifier movie you wanna put out, you wanna compare it to. Terrifier 2 is.8, 1 is a 2.6, I don't know what 3 is. Maybe 3's a little bit higher, I doubt it. It's a 3.1, okay? let me Let me tell you some of the complaints that people have with Terrifier, okay? Let me just read some of these off to you.
00:23:05
Speaker
Well, when evil lurks, you know, it has a demon and there's like a storyline. Yeah. Have you guys watched Terrifier 2? There's a storyline and arc the clown is a demon. Confirmed in the third movie. He's a demon. Confirmed. Oh, well, you know, I found this movie terribly boring. Did you watch the second half of When Evil Lurks or were you asleep? Because it's that fucking boring. Well,
00:23:30
Speaker
Terrifier doesn't really explain the lore. Did this movie, When Evil Lurks, not explain the entirety of the lore? read Spell it out for you syllable by syllable of what you should and shouldn't do, and then did we go ahead and watch the characters? Just not listen? There's a scene in this movie where where the mom, the cleaner, tells Pedro the fuck his name is, hey, you should not go looking for your son because the evil knows you're afraid of losing him and you're not gonna be able to find him.
00:24:00
Speaker
And we're like, well, yep, let's go. Let's go find him. And then the biggest complaint, I'm saving this for a last, the biggest fucking complaint for Terrifier as a franchise. Oh, it's pointless gore. What is the difference between this gore and when he belirches gore? What is the difference? It is shock value kills. It's shock value kills.
00:24:22
Speaker
You're watching this dude almost shoot a goat. And then this lady's like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm gonna take an axe to my face. And you know what? It's not even gonna look good. It's not even gonna look good! Let me say this. Let me say this. Speak, Queen. Terrifier 1's budget was $35,000. Okay? Terrifier 2's budget was $250,000.
00:24:48
Speaker
The budget for when evil lurks was three million dollars. And what do they do with that? Not put it into practical effects! It looks terrible. All of it. All of it. The only one that looks good is the fucking blob in the beginning of the movie. That's the only part that looks good.
00:25:08
Speaker
So let's take- This is a movie that you're watching that has dialogue that you should care about if the characters respected the dialogue that was happening, followed up with, hey, are you still paying attention? Here's a shock value kill. That's what Terrifier is! That's exactly what Terrifier is. I'm not saying that One Evil Lurks is like bad or terrible. I mean, you probably say that. I'm not saying that. I'm saying,
00:25:37
Speaker
These films are on a closer level.
00:25:42
Speaker
but but people But people praise when evil lurks more than the terrified movies. The must-see movie of last year, 2022, get out of my face. Get out of my face! Yeah.
00:25:57
Speaker
its sort of point
00:26:00
Speaker
20% more of their budget into the practical effects. That's all you needed and a better storyline. Oh, but there's a demon I'm done with possession movies guys. but Stop it. ah I don't know if I'm done with it. I'm just sent like It's rinse repeat like they tried to do something new I guess but like Fuck my ass, dude um ah um All I'm saying is where everybody, the Joe public, and there are there are ah obviously there's thousands of terrifier friends. Art is now in the mainstream, but the people who critique. Terrifier on being pointless, senseless gore. That's boring. Keep it a buck. When you talk about when evil lurks, people give him one evil or four star, four and a half star. That's out of my face dude in crazy.
00:26:55
Speaker
and blast me I'm not trying to shit on one evil lurks. I'm trying to say that these movies are not that different it is dialogue followed by shock value kills and the shock value kills and terrifier two and three and that one killing one look way better than any of the kills and when evil lurks and You can't tell me otherwise
00:27:21
Speaker
That's it. I'm so glad you put that out there. I was going to tell you before, but I need to say it. And I think it's not my longest review in Letterboxd, but it's one of my longest reviews on Letterboxd. I watched the first half was great. I thought the first half was enjoyable. And then actually as soon as they get hard to leave the city or leave the town, I'm like,
00:27:44
Speaker
What are we doing? I don't give a fuck anymore. i Literally, you sit in the car with grandma, and she's telling you all the rules not to break, and then they go on to break every single one of those rules. And then what were they trying to say with autistic kids that demons can't figure out their brains because they're autistic? Yeah, what the fuck is that shit? I get it. It's from a different country. All right, I get it. Spain, Spanish, Brazil, wherever the fuck. Down there. So yeah. Mexico, do yourself a favor. Go watch The Sadness.
00:28:12
Speaker
Oh, so I didn't get to tell you that I started it last night and and talk about I got to the because I went to sleep. It was like to the subway scene where they start just stabbing each other on the subway. I pause it after that scene ended and went to bed. But talk about a contender for inside, which I think you mentioned. Yeah.
00:28:35
Speaker
Uh, God, God damn. Now, that movie is, I would say it's another shock value gore for gore's sake, but. No, it's a zombie movie. It's a zombie movie. Well, you're going to be done with no coordinate. Right. You need that. So this is my thing. You really like you gave it a four and a half on letterboxed, right? I did. OK, so. I really think if you like that movie as much as you do, based off what I've only seen a part of the movie.
00:29:04
Speaker
So far i'm gonna finish it today You gotta watch train to busan You have to okay, it's not I'll probably rate this higher than train to busan, but train to busan is like a four star Like I think yeah I think it's up there. I got a week off ah or a week. I got fucking month and a half off of work. So Yeah, you gotta watch that. It's um it's It's up there as far as zombie movies. And I think foreign films just do it better, because us Americans can't do it. Also, if you haven't seen The Wailing, this movie is way better than The Wailing already. um From what I've seen, way better. I gave The Wailing a four, but it's, I mean, this is, the sadness cooks. It does. And I haven't finished it. And I also kind of want to get that physical media release that. It's expensive though. I know. lot money i know I'm tempted but.
00:29:56
Speaker
um Anyways, we're a half hour in this episode, and it's about Basket Case.
Deep Dive into 'Basket Case'
00:30:03
Speaker
Hey, man. ah I had to to i to get that out there about when evil lurks. That really bothers me that people suck their movies up. No, you can like the movie. I'm just saying keep the same energy with Terrifier, because at its core, it's the same thing. True. True.
00:30:21
Speaker
People are saying, oh, the movie's like, if what if children were evil? Children of the Corn? Movie sucks, but. Pet Sematary? ah ah There's that little bitch in Terrifier, too, a little girl. A little whale bitch. Yeah. Anyways, i could I could go on for another 20 minutes, but that fucking bullshit. All right, so we're going to get into this review of Basket Case. um It was released in 1982 by ah Frank Hennenlotter.
00:30:49
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Uh, here is your cast. I'll read off. I don't know who to read off. You got Kevin Van Henterich, I think is his name, who plays Dwayne Bradley, our main character. Uh, Terry Susan Smith plays Sharon.
00:31:07
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Beverly Bonner plays Casey. Robert Vogel plays the hotel manager. Diana Brown plays Dr. Judith Cutter, the veterinarian. ah Lloyd Pace plays Dr. Harold Needleman. I'll say this, Dr. Harold Needleman or Lloyd Pace Performance, I think is my favorite acting performance in the whole movie. He's Does a good job. He's funny. Um, looking funny, looking for sure. And then, uh, Bill Freeman plays Dr. Julius lift Lander, who gets killed, begin the movie. Um, I don't know. The rest of them aren't worth mentioning. I don't think, right? No. Yeah. The acting in this movie is absolutely dog shit. i love It's brutal. This is a thing. So there's a lot of movies. Um,
00:31:59
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this The late 70s and 80s slasher genre, they were throwing a lot of stuff at the wall. i you stick Yeah, and you can look at my letterbox and see all the slashes I've watched from that time period that I've given a two and a half or two. Like that movie, ah the one in the mall.
00:32:22
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Eric's Revenge, where the fuck's called? Oh, Phantom of the Mall, Eric's Revenge. Like that one is like there. I mean, the list goes on and on. They're all kind of like, yeah, let's see what sticks. The Prowler. Fuck that movie. Fuck that movie. God, fuck. Fucking terrible. But I think what what separates this movie a little bit from those ah is the addition of Belial. Oh, the goat, Belial. He's the goat.
00:32:50
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Yeah, so he he's he's the good and I think the lore of they were attached at the hip and then they the doctor separated them and now Belial wants to go ahead and take revenge on those people. um It's a good premise and I think the opening kill is good. Yeah, the practical effects aren't bad for no budget. 35,000 I think it said. Oh really? Yeah, same as Terrifier 1.
00:33:20
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Yeah, it's um like the vet I think the vet kill is probably the best kill in the movie. Yeah. You think? Definitely. I think the the guy that plays Dwayne, ah he he does fine as far as acting in this movie with what he's given. me the writing The writing and acting as a whole is just rough. why was Why was that girl so obsessed with Dwayne? Why was she written like that?
00:33:49
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I don't know. Like, he acted like a freak, and then she's like, I just want to spend time with you. Get the fuck away from me. Yeah. ah And for the listener who doesn't know the story, so Belial's mission, he's kind of like talking with Duane about, ah we got to go kill these these doctors that separated us and like get our revenge. And then in doing so, Duane meets this girl.
00:34:16
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uh and Belial a little little jealous a little but Belial wants down the action and he kind of he kind of starts to interfere with Dwayne's relationship and when I say interfere he murders the girl that Dwayne was seeing yeah fuck up out of here yeah he uh That kill is pretty bad. What was the deal with what was the deal with the red eyes? It's like glowing eyes. Was he like, yeah, why the what? What was up with that? I don't know, because like he's supposed to be he's like human in, you know, a blob form. Right. He's not. He's wanted a hug. He's wanted some love, dude. That's all he wanted. He wanted. a I feel like he wants Dwayne all to himself.
00:35:11
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Yes. Well, I mean, they were literally attached. So he, yeah, he's very dependent. It's more probably jealousy, you know? um I think so. ah tor these on Go ahead. Definitely towards the end, yeah. Because he's a monstrosity, right? Who can love that? Well, if you've seen the other ones, oh there is a two and a three to this franchise. And two is fine. And three is one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my entire life.
00:35:39
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So now I'm going to argue that. 3, I gave a half star. 3 is real bad, but he, I mean, this monstrosity is able to find love in the second one with more more monsters.
00:35:54
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but More monsters for sure. there There's, yeah.
00:36:01
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the The description Dwayne is basket bound Newton brother are taken in by a secret at home for wayward freaks ah Was that for the second one? Yeah, and three is just fucking terrible three I give ah I mean negative Also, they butchered my boy Belial he looks terrible in those movies also what if I told you in basket case three Belials not even in it He's got like I'd say like 10 minutes of screen time I'd be very disappointed. Yeah. I mean, is that true? I'm telling you. Yeah, it's true. He's barely in it. I wrote a pretty long review for Basket Case 3, too. Now that pisses me the fuck off, because that's my but that's my guy right there. I mean, it was either it was this one or it was two, but I'm pretty sure it was three. Yeah. The bottle is in this for about 10 minutes in case you're wondering. How the fuck they gonna do him like that? He looks terrible. Also, I love the um
00:36:59
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When Belial would move around, it was like stop motion. Yeah. Yeah. Big stop motion fan here. um That looked great. I thought when he was like terrorizing that room, he's like throwing all the shit around. Yeah. Stop motion is one of those underutilized things in modern technology. Everybody's doing CGI, especially for live action. They're not doing it would look fucking weird. But with the character like Belial, who is literally like a rubber. He kind of looks like a cuttlefish.
00:37:29
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You think so? Blob-ish? I have to watch the blob. Yeah, I thought that girl was written terrible. I think dewayne Dwayne's character only gets more annoying as the franchise progresses.
00:37:43
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it's pretty ah He's pretty insufferable. Insufferable is crazy. He's he's not he's not an interesting character. I think this movie has a little bit of sauce, but it's not like the
00:37:59
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I think when we picked this to do for the podcast, we were both like, oh yeah, Basket Kid, we both like that movie. And then on rewatch, does it ah a hold up? Maybe not. Maybe not. There's really not a lot to talk about here. No, I mean, what was the deal with that girl who was like in the hotel, she was like a hooker, I guess, but not the black chick? Was she trying to fuck Dwayne or was she not? I don't know, but her acting was some of the worst in the movie.
00:38:28
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real you thought she was the worst? Yeah. I thought the the manager of the hotel gave, a he was putting it all all, everything out there. He was giving his whole. He thought he was acting like in a grimming up Grammy, not Grammy, in an Oscar nominated movie. ah Come on, come on, get out of here, come on, get the fuck out of here. There were some good screams in this though, like people like really yelling from the gut. Oh yeah, they were really scared. It's a little over the top, honestly.
00:38:57
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Yeah, but we fuck with it. I think that's the point. Do we? you cant you can Well, you can't get mad at low budget movies. They're low budget for a reason. You're not hiring Hollywood actors or you're getting who you can get. These fucking assholes got three movies, though. I think, i think ah oh, and we gotta talk about the end of this movie.
00:39:19
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um Which is a cool ending, but In doing two and three, I don't think I like it that much. No. So the ending is very reminiscent, I would say, of King Kong. Sure. Twa's beauty killed the beast. Oh, which one of them is beauty? Dwayne. Damn, dude, Dwayne's fucking ugly as hell. Yeah, he is. That big ass poof. Yeah, what is that? Tall fucking quickie alien looking ass. Alien. He looks like an alien.
00:39:54
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ah But him and Belial are like fighting and they fall out the bedroom window window of the hotel are staying at which why is he loaded did he robbed the Doctors that he murdered or what they never explained why he's has so much fucking money. I i just as so I just assumed he robbed the Doctors after they killed them all he's always carrying a big wad of cash on him, but it's like 50s like big wads of windows Yeah
00:40:25
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ah But they're hanging out from his hotel. Window. And they're like blouse holding on to Dwayne by like his neck. And they both end up falling to the to the ground, which the fall happened a little bit too fast, but. They splat on the ground after the movie ends, which is a cool ending, right? because But then there's a two and a three.
00:40:53
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They should have just left it at one. Sorry, Frank Hennen. What else did he make? He made something else, didn't he? Brain Damage. I've seen. I love that movie. That movie is good. I'll have to watch that. And Frank and Hooker, which I need to watch. Eighty five minutes. Yes, sir. Yes. You know, my first watch, I was like, this is a three star. I think it's like I left that as a three star. But it might be like a two and a half or two.
00:41:23
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Movies kind of mid. I love the Lyle. I do love Lyle. I just. Yeah, it's just kind of bad. I'm going to leave it at a three star. um it It's in the vein of so bad, it's good. I think it is. I think one of those matters, right? Yeah. Just ah the the that girl that he like is in love with pissed me off so much.
00:41:50
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She's ugly.
00:41:55
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She's fine. I don't know if she's... She's like stereotypical blonde 80s chick. She looks like that girl from SNL. Okay, yeah. forgot I forgot her name, but you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. ah I would say if you have any interest in watching this movie, it's on... It's probably on shutter, right? If it's not... It's on one of them. Here, let me check for you guys.
00:42:20
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what what it's on. Definitely. I guess watch the first one. ah Two and three. I really encourage you not to watch. ah So here's a plug, by the way. ah We're not sponsored by these people, obviously. love but But cheap plug for the website justwatch dot.com. ah Go to justwatch dot.com and you can type in like any movie or show and it'll tell you ah what streaming services it's on. You can log your what subscription services you have if you create an account and it'll tell you if it's streaming on any of the ones you own. It's a good website. I really love it. I don't use it but I also don't have too many streaming services.
00:43:07
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That's fair. Along with all this physical media. Yeah, it's on pretty much everything. You can rent it on Amazon, Apple TV. It's on Shutter.
00:43:22
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Uh, screen box, whatever the fuck that is. What's screen box? I don't know. Is that when you yell into a girl's pussy?
00:43:35
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man I believe so. It's on everything. Yeah. Rent it, buy it, stream it. Tubi. It's on Tubi if you want to watch it for free with ads. That's where I watched it. I'm pretty sure for the first time was on Tubi. I watched two and three on Tubi.
00:43:51
Speaker
Talk about bad movies. Those are horrid. I bought them. I own them. That's NVD, right? Or is it synapse? Synapse. I bought them both for a. Those were on sale on Kino's website. And I thought about it. They were like $8. And I was like, maybe to complete the collection. I have no i have no synapse ah physical media.
00:44:20
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I have those two. um
00:44:26
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I want to say the Suspiria Synapse. The 4K Suspiria. Yeah, for some reason in my head that was Scream Factor, but I know it's not. Which, fuck that movie too. I spent $50 on it. If we have any fans left, they're gone.
00:44:43
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Suspiria, oh man, I've heard the remake is better, but good luck trying to find a fucking copy of that. That's like $80. The remake is on Prime and it's not that good either. Okay. Which by the way, if you're a Suspiria stan, come on the, send us an email, come on the podcast and defend yourself. Yeah, but if they come on and defend it, we have to review it. I know. I don't want to watch it again. You don't have to.
00:45:10
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Okay, I just wanted you said we we shoot for the hip I just know it's shit. All right. I don't know so Italian horror is one of those sub genres. I'm just not a big fan of Yeah, I thought that the movie inside was an Italian horror and it's not so I'm definitely French. I'm definitely out like Dario Argento Whatever he's not for everybody don't say fuck him He's not a bad guy. He's trying to make movies, man. He's living his dream. I know he's he's classified as one of like the legend directors from Italy, but not just Italy all time. Yeah, I know. It's just they're just not for me. You know, although I do like I do like the Argento cut of Dawn of the Dead because it cuts out all the bullshit and just gets straight to the gore. Dude, I got to tell you this. I found out. Shout out. Homeboy got a got circumcised when he was 11 years old.
00:46:05
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but You thought Belialgan separate was bad. What have you got circumcised at 11 years old? 11? Yeah, it's to happen like after bright after birth. Yeah, but people do it at an older age I'm like are you traumatized like yeah, I'm traumatized. I'm like I would be too fuck at 11 at that point Just let it just let it go like it's not I don't know man I I don't know if it was I forgot to ask it was his choice or not, but he got his shit snipped
00:46:30
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Snip, snip, which that scene was good. The scene in the basket case where they circumcised. No, where they ah separate Belial from Dwayne Dwayne. The sounds were gross. But I feel like um I feel like the Frank, whatever his name is, was like, all right, how would I take off a Siamese twin or whatever if I was a doctor like they did not.
00:46:59
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Because literally they just take scissors and just cut cut them off the side of of the way without any kind of care. It's not sanitary either. They're in this dude's house. Like they they put like rich. I know. They just put like plastic up on the walls and everything. A lot of blood squirt. A lot of blood. The blood was squirting on the supposedly sterile like tools. You think they're not. She's a vet. That's the problem. He called a vet into do it.
00:47:26
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Yeah. You're not an animal, it's a human. is And then that pissed me off too when they killed a vet. Yeah. She opens a drawer and she's just got scalpels just out. Like you put your hand in that drawer, you're getting cut. Well, her face went in that drawer. Her face did go in that drawer. In that drawer. And it comes out and it's all like, like five scalpels stuck in her head. I think the, I think the,
00:47:54
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Where most movies in the horror genre lose me ah is there's a certain level of camp, which I just can't take. And at some point I check out, like I talked about with the substance. Fuck that movie. I'm the resident hater of the substance. I've decided, I think I'm going to lower it even lower than it is. I think you're in the minority. I for sure am in the minority. I don't care. Um, like they,
00:48:20
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I feel like when they made that scene with the vet and like her face goes into that drawer and like her face comes out with all the scalpels in it, they were like, Oh, we're we're cooking. That was the big. That was their big moment. We made one of them. Also, what was going on at the end with ah Belial and the girlfriend in the bed? Was he like fingering her to death or what was that about? I would not want one of his fingers in my vagina if I had a vagina. Well, she was asleep. Yeah.
00:48:50
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You can get rape while you're asleep? Yeah, rape is non-consensual sex. Yeah, okay. Well, I guess what I'm, I guess what I'm, all right. Thank you for the definition of rape fucking Marion Webster over there. Um, I know what rape is. Um, what I'm saying is if you felt a rod go in your vagina, wouldn't you wake up? Oh, well, yeah. Does he have a rod? If I felt my, I was on my finger. Oh, okay. But if I felt a dick on my ass, I'd be like, whoa. You know what I mean? Like it'd be.
00:49:19
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Woah! Maybe Defcom 5 or whatever. There's a dick in my ass. Yeah. Not no.
00:49:30
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Maybe Anishio. Lord Mary. So you think he he stealthfully raped her? Yeah. Dude, do you see how big his fingers on that claw? His fingernails haven't been clipped ever, I don't think.
00:49:43
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That's the thing. But if that's going into you, you would think you'd wake up. I mean, eventually she does. She does. Sure. She's got a nice rack on her, though. We need I'm not going to say that. We need more racks. I was going to say Bush. Like reanimator. Keep that Bush to yourself. Yeah. All right. I think I think we're going to cut it off here, except it's been fucking crazy.
00:50:14
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Yeah. As the case, I don't think we spent too much time talking about. But what you guys need to know is it's an 80 slasher film that's elevated by the addition of Belial. ah Much like the Terrifier franchise, where it's a generic slasher with fucking arc the clown.
00:50:32
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who people find boring. I saw a review, by the way, I'm not done. I saw a review that said that Terrifier was so bad. And if you want to watch a movie that's like Terrifier, that the collector and the collection are right there. I will not excuse the collection. The collection is one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life. The collector is good. I like the collector. The collection, oh my God, bad. Horribly bad.
00:50:57
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We should just label this episode the fucking Terrifier Defending Podcast. like Defending and and anti-evil lurks. I'm not even anti-evil lurks. I'm just saying keep the same energy. and the The first app is good. I'm not going to deny that. The first app is it's very good. i just like Come on.
00:51:17
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Come on. Hope you guys enjoyed that. So basket case episode to not be about basket case. Yeah. OK, we can cut this part. Are we going to tell them? Oh, we've already told them. Never mind. All
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right. ah On Halloween, we are dropping a Halloween special and it's not Halloween. It is the ABCs of death.
00:51:46
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ah We go through every single letter of gold letter of ah each death, and we rank them at the end. I should also say, because it's going to be a little confusing to you all, ah Gerald and I have decided not to do scene by scene anymore. It kind of detracted from our experience with the new releases, especially. um If you want to hear scene by scene, I'll say this. Maybe we'll entertain if the fans let us know, which they never do.
00:52:15
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um If you want to hear scene by scene for movies that have already come out, like not new releases, maybe we'll do that. Like would best case have benefited from a scene by scene? Maybe, but then it's absolutely been two hours. So, uh, let us know.
00:52:32
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Let us know, please. That will be coming out on Halloween. Happy Halloween to you all. Hopefully you guys enjoy it and get fucked up like Gerald and I are going to do. Yes, sir. um and then yeah so this is So this wraps up the the two episodes per week segment. We're going to go back to just Tuesdays.
00:52:51
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um Tuesday, November 4th, you are getting a review on Long Legs, which I've already seen twice this year. I will be seeing a third time.
00:53:02
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00:54:38
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00:55:12
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