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MURDER - What Is Your Breaking Point
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This week Lisa will be telling 3 different stories - that all have 1 thing in common. Everyone, including you, have something that you find annoying or obnoxious; so the questions is...what do you do about it? Think about your pet peeve's and ask yourself, is there one of those that is worth murdering for???
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Transcript
Introduction & Podcast Theme
00:00:05
Speaker
And welcome to another episode of Twisted Tales with Faith and Lisa. We appreciate you tuning in. This is a true crime podcast where we tell each other stories that we hope the other one hasn't heard and get a reaction and talk about them and basically hide from our children and my husband. So enjoy tonight. Well, I think that tonight I might get you hopeful.
Thematic Tease & Humor
00:00:34
Speaker
Um, this week I'm going to start and I'm going to tell three different stories. So I'm going to have to try to hurry up and get through them. Um, but before we get started, I'm going to give you three names. All right. Tony Davis. Don't know him. Kalonda Richie. Don't know that one. Yep.
00:00:56
Speaker
I actually said his last name this time without sounding like I was Irish like I don't know why but like I kept saying that's not Irish that's British you've just been in Tennessee too long no it's redneck they are no the law like with that
00:01:13
Speaker
Shut up. Anyways. South American accent. Sometimes you just got to let things go. For my sake and my low dignity. That's fine. I don't care. I'm sure we'll catch you on something at some point. Anywho, so do you know what they all have in common? You're going to talk about them. But I want you to guess. They're all boys.
00:01:40
Speaker
Blonde? Okay, I wasn't sure. It could be a different nationality and I'm bad with those kind of names. I don't know. And I'm looking for a more extreme answer here. They're all murderers. Psychopaths. No.
Common Element: Neighborly Killings
00:01:53
Speaker
They have all been featured on a TV show. Yes. That is true. But they are all no longer in existence. Oh, they're all dead. They're all dead. Oh, now I feel bad. I thought those were the bad guys.
00:02:08
Speaker
No. No. This is a victim kind of show, Faith, right? Why would I mention the murderers first? Because I'm a bad person. Move it along. They all do have one thing in common though. None of them know each other. They're all killed by the same person? No. They were all killed the same way? No. They were all killed? They were all killed,
Story 1: Tony vs. Paul
00:02:31
Speaker
yes. But they were all killed by their neighbor. Well. Uh-huh.
00:02:38
Speaker
So weird, dude. I'm going to have fun with this one. All right. So we're going to start with Mr. Tony Davis. All right. They moved into a new home. I'm not, I don't, I'm not going to get totally into the geographic to where everybody was. Cause I don't want to ramble on forever and tell everybody's backstory with your battle backstories, South America and face. And I don't like you. Shut up. Anyway.
00:03:04
Speaker
So Tony Davis, they moved into a new home in a nice neighborhood. Tony was on disability after a severe accident at work with a forklift running over his legs. Howie. Aha, 12 surgeries later. Oh, dang. And against all odds, he was, in fact, able to walk again. And he decided, because he couldn't do any manual labor, which is what he was doing before, that he wanted to go back to school and become a teacher. Why not? There you go.
00:03:34
Speaker
his next door neighbor, Paul Tracy, was also pretty new to the neighborhood. And like Tony had a work injury that ended his career. So other neighbors sort of spoke of Paul as a pretty good guy, but kind of rough around the edges, you know, they could bond over their, their newness and their in fairness. Yeah, well, they kind of hit on that. But
00:04:02
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know. They think I think they kind of did maybe a little bit because like at the beginning like everything was totally kosher. Like we were good. Anyways, so Paul was also injured on disability the whole night, right? Neighbors thought he was pretty decent. We're all good. So both
00:04:29
Speaker
men were family men, but only Tony at that time had a child that was actually living with them. So at first they got along just fine. But then there were these like little random things that kept happening. And the story starts with a tire. Tire. A tire. Like this is why I don't talk to my neighbors. A, I don't like people. B, they'll want to borrow things. C, they'll try to tell me to pick up all the crap that I keep everywhere. But
00:04:59
Speaker
Number five or whatever I was on is because people are inherently crazy and I don't like them. Yeah, you really just never know, do you? No, no, no, you really don't. So Paul had laid a large tire like we're talking like the old time, like an eight people are talking pretty much. Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, comparatively speaking, leaned it up against this like little tiny fence that Tony had that was separating the properties.
00:05:27
Speaker
wasn't exactly the most sturdy fence, but whatever. Just out of the fence, he can do what he wants. Exactly my point, yep. So it was making his fence sort of like lean back. Oh, that's just not nice, but still. Yeah. And so just being like a typical human, Tony was like, I'm just going to go. I'm going to go ask him to move it. Yeah. And so when he got there, he knocked on the door, but nobody answered. So we wrote him a note.
00:05:57
Speaker
and it was just saying, hey man, can you please not lean the tire up against the fence? It's making it like unsteady. Did we have physical evidence of the note? It's supposed to be. So we don't know if it wasn't like, hey, butthole, move your crappy tire. But at that point, for all we know, they were all still getting along.
00:06:21
Speaker
but I'm just saying that could have sparked the sky's rain. And I think that's my favorite part of this podcast here because it really, no matter what I did, it was always kind of like telling almost the one side of the story, but then like you'll hear these little nuances from the other side and you're like, it makes you think. Listen, this is why I tell your brother, don't honk at people. Cause you don't know what kind of crazy's in that car. Oh dude, especially nowadays. I actually had a friend that I used to work with, right? Who got shot.
00:06:49
Speaker
with his wife and children in the car. Yeah. Because of traffic rage. Yeah. Because some guy got mad at him. You don't, there's a whole lot of crazy. I'm saying, you don't know. That's why I stick to my lane and I don't talk to people in general. And I don't like people, but well, they don't really like you either. It's mutual, mutual dislike. I love you, but okay. I had to try to retract that. That was kind of harsh anyways. So no, move the tire.
00:07:19
Speaker
whatever. Paul left the tire right where it was. He did not care for the note. Did not care. Didn't care for the note. Didn't care about the tire. So soon after that, Tony got a tire. But no, listen, not long after he left this note, Tony got a citation.
00:07:36
Speaker
from the city saying that he needed to move his garbage cans because they were visible to the public. Now, Tony, is he the one that left the note? Tony is the one that left the note. Tony's the one that went to school to be a teacher. Paul's the one that's on disability and has nothing to do. Tony left a note to Paul. Paul thought, I'm going to show you and reported him. Technically, we don't know.
00:07:59
Speaker
Technically, we're OK. We can make that assumption, which is the best part of all all of these stories, right? I'm assuming. Yeah, because, you know, proof's in the pudding, bro. Right. All right. So, yep, Tony got his citation that he needed to move his garbage, his garbage cans. And it's not long after that whole incident with the tire and then the citations and all that. Tony's daughter woke up in the middle of the night.
00:08:29
Speaker
hearing some, like, banging noises that were coming from the garage. You know, it wasn't really specified at that time, but I know that she was young enough to, like, have, like, little bicycles and, you know, I would say, like, grade school. OK. Yeah. That was super weird that we said at the same time. Thanks, Yomi. Don't touch me. We like each other, I swear. No, we don't. Shut up. Anyways.
00:08:58
Speaker
Now I've lost my place again. It's your fault. So Tony's daughter. Nope. Tony's daughter heard something in the middle of the night. Uh, Tony went to check it out, saw somebody in the garage, whoever it was, saw Tony and just took off in his own garage in his own garage. Did he not have the door shut? I guess not. You have to keep your house boarded up. There's also, but there's also like, like you have your giant garage door that goes down and then some people
00:09:22
Speaker
have like the side door that goes out to the backyard, you know? And so I'm wondering if maybe that's how he came in and out. He just, he left it open. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You know what that crap of dude? Yeah. Yeah. Who knows? All right. Uh, yeah. So yep. Garage. Somebody running Tony swears that he heard, uh, Paul's door slam shut after the garage.
00:09:51
Speaker
So now now now they're both just being care where we're just. You mean like whatever the equation, we're stuck in it, Carl. There's some stacking. Yeah, there's some stack right now. So Eddie. Yep. All right. So now Tony thinks everything is on Paul. The citations for Tony kept coming. OK, we're just random stupid crap and. There were random other things that were going on to Tony to Tony at that time, like
00:10:20
Speaker
His wife's car got broken into that. They didn't really take anything. They just like mess everything up. It's weird, right? It's almost like kind of like mentally.
Story 1 Climax: Tragic Outcome
00:10:29
Speaker
I need a better word mentally like ninja kicking you.
00:10:35
Speaker
That was a good one. Well, it's like Dane Cook said, like the B and E. Yeah. I didn't want to steal anything. I just wanted to, I just wanted to mess with the ear. Do you take the battery out? Yeah, exactly. Pretty much. Because then you're looking around for like a week trying to find out what's going on. What is anything missing? Did I have something there? I don't know. It's happened to me.
00:10:55
Speaker
Really annoying. So actually, it turns out that Tony had a dog, whatever. They called it Animal... Paul called it Animal Control. So many times that even Animal Control was like, bruh. Like, this Paul guy is mad weird.
00:11:12
Speaker
Like they were like, cause the dog literally was well fed. He, he was an inside dog. None of the other neighbors, even like when they talked about it and interviewed other, like the dog's fine. That's it's the dog spot. Like, okay. So here's the question. Obviously. Pause the one that died. Um, Tony, I don't know whichever one, but Tony wrote the first note, right? Right.
00:11:39
Speaker
And now Paul's just continuing to be a Carl and retaliate. Right. But you're going to call him a Karen. It's OK. That's the boy. I want a boy version. Carl from now on until the end of the podcast, which is hopefully never boy Karen's or Carl. So Carl here. So we're saying that just this one kindly written note caused all this retaliation. And you're telling me that Tony didn't retaliate once. Like he didn't do any citations of his own or didn't do anything else. Or is this all just
00:12:09
Speaker
Was the story told in a way that Tony's the poor injured part? Oh no, things went back and forth. Okay. But it wasn't until kind of like later on in the story where he had like enough was enough. Okay. I know what I'm saying. Yeah. And that's why like breaking point, like that's the main, the main ask of this, of this podcast. Like what do you faith or any of the people that listen, like what is, what do you think would be your breaking point?
00:12:35
Speaker
When they contacted me the first time to clean up my stuff on my side, I'm talking, I'm talking breaking point as in I'm so done with you. I'm going to take your life. OK, well, I wouldn't actually kill anybody, but I'd go a little psycho crazy. So they learned not to come knock on my door again. Ain't nobody asking me for a cup of sugar. Can I just mention just intervene with this? I know that my neighbor recently got a puppy and it's like a hound that you told me that I told you about it. And so it's got like that.
00:13:03
Speaker
That hound kind of barky wine thing going. And so the whole time I was doing research on this podcast, I'm sitting here thinking I get it. I get it. I understand. Go leave a note. A nice and wanted note. I'm going to secretly call animal control. Oh man. That dog barked constantly. Still does. I don't know. Whatever. It'd be, it'd be better if they pulled the dog in once in a while. You know what? Just change to a tree. That's cool. All right.
00:13:31
Speaker
however, you know, you do you, right? All right, whatever. So, animal control, Paul's mental. Fast forward, Tony graduates. They have a small backyard barbecue party kind of thing for him, him and his family and his friends. Paul came outside with a leaf blower and started blowing up dirt and debris all over their fence, like onto Tony's side. So, Carl's really kicking it up a notch.
00:14:00
Speaker
I was like, his name is Paul. He's a Carl. OK. Anyways, he is a Carl. I agree. So we'll just refer to him as Carl. That works for me. So at this point, Tony became like, like furious. I edited myself again just then. I just wanted you to know. We're trying to break Lisa's swearing habit. But sometimes it's just because I like it. And I feel like it really just brings something to the conversation. It does not continue. Thank you.
00:14:31
Speaker
Anyways, yep, they're over the fence. Tony's mad. And, you know, while all this is going on, Paul took it up one more notch after the confrontation at the fence. And he's like, bro, stop like you've ruined my party, blah, blah, blah. Everybody went inside. Right. So not long after that, Paul started taking pictures of Tony and his daughter when they would go outside. That's just randomly like just starting.
00:14:58
Speaker
I'm not okay with that. I'm not okay with that either. So Tony was also not okay with that. And so he took out a restraining order against Paul. How are you going to take it? He's your neighbor. Oh Lord. Yeah. 500 people probably not going to work there. Right. They are petty AF. Oh, Oh yeah. You know, but you know what?
00:15:21
Speaker
If he had just moved the tire, I don't know if this would have happened. But do you know how much, like, I just have to say, Miss, Miss your Carl with his tire leaning is probably bored.
00:15:35
Speaker
Yeah. And you know, he's got to think like, what am I going to do to annoy him today? Right. And it's kind of his own disability. He doesn't work at all. Well, he got to do besides think of ways to know what to do. Like, OK, what do they say? Idle hands do the devil's work. Is that what it is? Yeah, he's bored. He's calling it up. He's calling it up. That's fantastic. I know it. Oh, man. So anyways, Paul decides, you know what? I'm going to take out a restraining order to
00:16:05
Speaker
Um, so, you know, he, he did and basically told the cops everything that Tony said Paul was doing to him, but saying that Tony was doing it.
00:16:18
Speaker
Does that make sense? Did I say that right? So everything that Carl was technically doing to annoy Tony Paul. Oh yeah, dude, the tire, the leaf blower, the pictures of- Even though his daughter doesn't live with him, now he's saying that his actions were his neighbor's actions, so he got a restraining order. In a nutshell, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, people in domestic abuse situations can't get restraining orders, but these two wing bats can get him over nothing. Wow. Oh yeah.
00:16:47
Speaker
All right. All right. So after the restraining order was taken out, Tony decided that he was going to build a very large fence to separate the two properties. Paul did the exact same thing. And according to all of the neighbors in the whole area, it was the ugliest fence that anybody had ever seen. So I'm sorry, guys. Hold on.
00:17:14
Speaker
Paul also installed security cameras, right? Okay. And... I'm sorry. Sorry, the neighbor decided to leave below. Leave low, yeah. All right, Carl, pack it up! Oh my god, I'd take that over the dog! Anyways, uh... Yeah, Paul. Ugly fences, kick it up a notch. Oh yeah, yep, yep. Ugly fences.
00:17:45
Speaker
Um, he installed security camp cameras. All this crap went on for four years. They didn't have an HOA that can be like, you're both out. Apparently not. Like, I mean, I don't know. I feel like through all these stories, like all the cops always say like, our hands are tied legally. And they are really because there's no, there's no physical violence happening. It's literally just two people.
00:18:12
Speaker
He does this all the time. I'm sorry. I don't know if you guys can hear this in the background, but this is like chronic where he's super OCD. We're talking about the neighbor. There's not one blade of grass that's going to sit on this man's driver.
00:18:26
Speaker
It's just not gonna happen. Hopefully, he'll move back around to the back in a minute. Okay. Alright, I'm gonna keep going now. Just keep going. Hopefully, we don't go way over time here because I still have two other freaking stories to tell. You said not a lot of byproduct, not a side talk and we're side talking a lot. Well, unfortunately, we didn't know these things were going to occur. Alright, Carl's suddenly closed. Continue. I know, he needs to go to South Africa. South America. You can get the joke, right?
00:18:57
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Am I too deep in? No. Yes, you are. Continue. All right. Thank you. All right. So. Yeah, she's lost her place. I did. I know. All right. So one day. It did not work. Different kind of phonics. All right. Anyways, so four years this one on one day, Tony got some pretty devastating news that his son that had already moved out, like, I guess this young man
00:19:26
Speaker
suffered from seizures a lot, like all growing up, the whole nine. And his seizure was so bad this time, they were actually into the armpit, he didn't make it. Oh man, that sucks. And so Tony is now like depressed, and he's angry, and like all of this going on with his neighbor, and now all this stuff going on with his home life, and he's just sort of like- He's spiraling. He's spiraling, yeah. He actually got so angry at one point that he smacked his own daughter in the face. At this point, she was an adult.
00:19:57
Speaker
OK, so. Again, it's not going to justify like what he did, but he was like just going through some mad crazy stuff, but whatever. Paul continued on with his garbage, saying that Tony threw acid on his car, which the cop actually said he thought it was tree sap when he was taking the photos. But you know what? It was it was it was acid guys. OK, it was.
00:20:28
Speaker
So it was Mr. Mr. Miss. I said Mrs. Butters. I thought you said misters. I wish. All right. Anyways, yep, he broke all of his security cameras. Paul's security. Tony did that. OK, Tony came back and he's like, I didn't do any of that. I think he did it himself. And I think he's trying to get me. Well, can't you just look on the security footage and see who's back? He broke it, but it records somewhere. Huh?
00:20:57
Speaker
We'll get there in a second. OK. All right. So the cops just get getting called to Tony's house. I am going to say this because this is real life. We'll never know the truth of what actually happened because there are three sides to every story. Here's mine and the truth. Yours, mine and the truth.
00:21:19
Speaker
Right. So at one point again, there was an incident where Paul took the water hose to Tony's daughter's car after it had just been detailed. Like, this is
Story 2: Klonda's Cat-Neighbor Conflict
00:21:27
Speaker
such petty. Just so stupid. This is literally like a bunch of toddlers. I know he touched me. He touched me. I'm taking my ball and I'm going home. So Tony took his hose and sprayed Paul.
00:21:42
Speaker
with water. His person. Right. And what I bet, according to Paul, though, at this point, it was probably acid, right? Oh, sweet Mary, these two. They're both. It's kind of amazing, isn't it? So.
00:21:54
Speaker
After that, Paul was like, you sprayed me with a hose. How dare you? So he started posting pictures all over Tony's car and his property, basically calling him fat and smelly. Dude, I wish I lived across the street. I'd be in my front lawn with a chair and popcorn just like, or slightly different things. Like seriously. How old are you? Exactly.
00:22:25
Speaker
I'm telling you, man. So, fat nasty dude pictures everywhere and Tony does not want to play nice anymore. So, he got cameras and lights and installed all that good stuff and Paul got more stuff like the giant like surround sound. How are they getting close enough to those pictures and spray each other? No, but I'm sitting here and I'm like
00:22:51
Speaker
Can I go on disability so I can afford all this, right? That would be great. Hey, um, there are people that actually need disability who have disability We're not saying there's anything wrong with collecting disability. No, but like find something no find something better to do like knit. Yeah, like See what I can buy to piss off all Carl over here
00:23:13
Speaker
Oh, Lord. So after he got his big old surround sound, Paul would blare bird noises from 12 a.m. to 5 a.m. Like overnight? Isn't that against a noise ordinance? Uh-huh. Even other neighbors were complaining also. But dude just kept like going. And like some of the other neighbors. It's not me, it's nature. It's not me, it's nature. That's an African hornbill, dude.
00:23:42
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Oh Lord. All right. I'll keep going. Uh, at this point, Tony was actually trying to look for new house. Like he was just done done. Okay. Like doing like the normal thing. Like yo bro. Like, first of all,
00:23:57
Speaker
Go to a mechanic and get your bolts tightened. Something ain't right, right? Oh, with both of them. Just because Paul's decided to take the higher road now doesn't mean he wasn't petty the whole time. I know. I'm surprised how many didn't get it. Four years of pettiness. Yeah, oh, dude. Now it goes on. That was four years from there. Now I'm reading down lower. It actually went on for way longer than that. I want to see their fence.
00:24:21
Speaker
you're gonna have I'll show you the site that I got all this if I can find a picture of the fence I will put it on our Facebook and our Instagram because it better be like dr. Seuss whackadoo all right so there was no hose at this point Tony and Paul didn't spray each other so one night
00:24:43
Speaker
Paul was recording Tony and Tony sprayed him with a hose. Yeah. He was literally outside like watering his garden. He was doing his thing, right? Mine is business. Yeah. And they're like recording and they're literally agitating him to know it. Who's them? Tony is Paul and his wife. Who was a nurse, by the way. So Carl's got a carrot.
00:25:06
Speaker
Carl and Karen. Yeah. I'm going to keep going because I got to speed through some of this. All right. So Tony naturally sprayed him with the hose. Paul's yelling like, get this on camera. Blah, blah, blah. All this went on. The funeral run for eight years. Oh my God. You can't neither of you can know Paul was literally losing it at this point. Okay. This is now this is where I think, okay, maybe Tony was kind of telling the truth.
00:25:33
Speaker
Like I'm sure there was some little like, you know, fabrications on his end, but, uh, apparently he started like just hoarding a bunch of stuff. His grass was no longer grass. It was like a dirt plane all over his house, his front yard, his backyard. He started making videos like, like.
00:25:57
Speaker
Not not like we do nowadays with like Snapchat or Instagram videos or TikToks. He was using like a video camera like the old school with the little fingers shut up like a big old camcorder like they find the bell date in a nutshell. Right. And so he's like in the back.
00:26:18
Speaker
driving around, talking, like, look at these cops out here eating breakfast on my tax dollars. And look at that pothole. He didn't work too long. Right. Right. Idle hands do the what? The devil's work. The devil's work. So he was making all these videos, like literally just going off about government and going off about the cops and going off about just anything that he could find to rant about. This man was just losing it over. Crazy damn. Yeah.
00:26:48
Speaker
So one night, the lights were blaring into Tony's house while while he was trying to sleep. And it was it was just too much. Yeah. Right. And so he told his wife who was asleep on the couch, she fell asleep watching like soap operas or whatever. He's like, you know, I'm just going to go over there. I'm going to talk to him and just ask him to just shut the lights off. Right. And this is, again, their testimony. But in all fairness, like all of the people that talked about Tony
00:27:18
Speaker
never viewed him as a violent guy like he was always very like he would get upset about things but then became very like uh I guess tactful in the way he handled them okay so we'll just we'll keep going from there um so Tony went out um the fence or no he said I'm sorry guys
00:27:43
Speaker
Yeah, he told his wife he was going to. Instead, he found the power cord and unplugged the lights that Paul had installed. Oh. And then he went around the fence that Paul built to go confront Paul by his back door. OK. So come to find out the kind of reason for this huge disgusting ugly fence is the fact that the cameras, either Tony's cameras or Paul's cameras, could see down that small alley.
00:28:11
Speaker
Oh, good. Yeah. And so Tony went up, started banging on the door. Paul came out without words being spoken, without anything happening. Had a rifle shot Tony in the chest. What? Then after Tony was already on the ground, shot him in the back with shotgun at point blank range. So I can only imagine that is overkill. Extremely, extremely. His wife heard the gunfire and she took off running.
00:28:41
Speaker
She found Toni Lane in that little like alleyway with the big ugly fence in the side of, it wasn't two fences, it was Paul's fence and Paul's house. So she ran over to him and was like screaming, somebody called 911, you know, the typical panicky type person. Paul pointed the gun at her face and was like, wait. And so she got up and ran back to the house called 911.
00:29:09
Speaker
Paul's wife also called my mom. They could hear, like the 911 calls could hear Paul in the background saying stuff. And while Sandy's like, I'm sorry, that was his wife's name, Sandy. She's on the phone and she's like, somebody was trying to break into our house. Paul shot him. She would like put the phone down and be like, what did you do? What did you do? Like she knew, like he just went over the edge, right? So,
00:29:38
Speaker
Neighbors ran out. They ran to Paul. I'm sorry. They ran to Tony. One of the neighbors actually started CPR on him. And she noticed when she looked up that Paul was like staring at her. And she was like, I really thought he was going to shoot us all because they were like neighbors around. Yeah. And she was like, but I didn't care at that moment. And she just kept doing CPR. Good for her. Yeah, that was pretty ball honestly. Finally, the cops showed up.
00:30:08
Speaker
they walked down the aisle way, they grabbed Tony and they pull him back into safety, back into, I think it was his driveway. Okay. And cops are like, bro, Paul, you need to come out. He's like, I'm here. I'm right here guys. Come on in. And so they did. And what they found was Paul sitting on the couch with his wife and the shotgun just sitting there. Okay. Okay. The cops said that when they looked around the living room, there were huge containers of kitty litter.
00:30:38
Speaker
Cat poop everywhere. Also, cats everywhere. And the house absolutely stoned, okay? So, this is, to me, this is a person who's been boiling over for a while, right? Like, when you let your house go to hell and you let your life go to hell, like, gee, I may not have a reason, I don't have an explanation for that. I can't say anything, my house is always wrecked.
00:31:06
Speaker
So, yeah, but you don't have cats everywhere and poo. No. Yeah. And your house doesn't smell like death. Valid points. Yeah. I mean, that's what I'm trying to say. It's not. It's just the lack of effort he was putting into anything. Yeah. You know what I mean? So after a little bit more searching, they found all of Paul's low tech security stuff.
00:31:28
Speaker
uh the the little VHS that he had that was recording everything that had happened he actually tried to hide that before the cops got there but when the cops found it they realized like the cameras won't go in there like everybody at that point knew like this was a set
00:31:44
Speaker
Like that's why the fence looked the way that it did. That's why it was so hideous. Why it was like, you know, 40 feet high. That's an exaggeration, but like you, he wanted to make sure that when this went down, nobody was going to see. Wow. So anyways, um, yeah, Paul went to jail and Tony was survived by his wife and daughter and he literally dry. He died over.
00:32:10
Speaker
Like, that's how I see this. It started with a tire. That escalated. Yeah, really fast. Well, not fast. It was eight years. Well, it was eight years. But like, that's such like, it's so my new stuff. And so like, in order to fit anything into any kind of research, you're not going to get a list of every single thing that went down between two.
00:32:36
Speaker
No. You know what I mean? Like, we're just going to throw out normal facts. I'm sure even like the police and the courts are like, eh, all and all again. All right. So now we're going to move on to Klonda Richie. Klonda Richie. Klonda Richie, right? She has lived in her house for a very, very long time. All right. She works for child services and she also worked for the Humane Society and she had a boyfriend named Doug.
00:33:06
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Um, there you go. Um. Anyways. Her her kind of like hobby type thing was like taking in gray cats that were neglected. Oh, my gosh. Stop it. You got it. You got to listen
Story 2 Climax: Fatal Dog Attack
00:33:25
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to this story. All right. You cannot intervene because some of it you're going to be like, really, really. OK. And we're it's it's going to be a Karen situation. All right. All right. So she would take in cats that were straight and neglected.
00:33:37
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Uh, but her house didn't fit all of them. I'm going to hold your hand. Let's hold hands. You ready? Oh yeah. This is gonna be great. Her house didn't fit all of them. So she bought a house just down the block.
00:33:48
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And a bunch of the cats lived there. I'm sorry. It's not funny to speak ill of the dead, but dude. Are you freaking kidding me? That's like, that's like, uh, my grandpa's ex girlfriend, her daughter, the crazy cat lady bought, bought a car and she got, she didn't like the way it was like a brand new Mercedes convertible. And she didn't like the way it fits. So she put the top down letter. That was her new cat bed. Give me, if you've got that much money, give me some cause I don't have near enough. I agree.
00:34:15
Speaker
Like, guys, come on, pay. I can barely afford my one tiny little house, let alone a house with a hat. Let's get the solo music. No, you guys get the Sarah McLaughlin. Oh. What is that? I don't know. There's a bunch of them. I will remember. We don't have money to pay for oil. We don't have pay for oil. Guys, take care of your people first, all right? We're humans. We need it. All right? So, new house for kitties. We love it. Sir. It's it. Oh, OK. Yeah. Yeah. So, all right.
00:34:44
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So every morning, she would wake up Miss Klonda at 4 a.m. and tend to the animals that were at her house and then go down the road and take care of those ones. Yeah. So then we introduce her very new neighbor, which was the wrong house. But his name was Andrew Mason and his girlfriend moved in next door.
00:35:12
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He was a salesman and she was a nurse. They had three kids. All the neighbors said they seemed like great people, honestly. Like, just super chill. Really, you know, Andrew and the mom both were like super involved with their kids. Like the whole, nobody really had anything ill to say about them. They just seemed normal. So Andrew had two dogs that at the time were puppies.
00:35:41
Speaker
And I had to mention that even though I'm gonna skip into something else, because we'll get there, okay? So Andrew and his girl would have people over and it would get noisy, right? And according to Doug, Klonda said Doug was her boyfriend. Yeah, I got it. Okay. That it scared cats. And so Andrew also had an ATV that he would ride up and down the neighborhood. That also scared cats.
00:36:09
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Well, they'd be scared. And Clondis' cats pretty much just roamed free, honestly. And there was nothing like between the two properties except like a flower bed that was separating Andrew's property and Clondis' property at the time. I bet his dogs didn't like all her cats. Learn it there. You're just going to have to listen at this point because you're not going to like where the story goes at all. All right.
00:36:40
Speaker
Andrew started getting super pissed because he would go outside and like clean off his ATV or like look at some of his other stuff. And he would find claw marks all over everything. And so he said something and he was like, can you just, can you get the cats off my property in a nutshell?
00:37:08
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And she responded with, well, for a really long time, it was my cat's house and their property. Um, but they'll learn, they'll learn their boundaries. How do you feel about that? How do you feel about that? I've got a lot of feelings and I'm not going to, I'm not going to voice this right now. Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:33
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So Andrew was not the only one that had an issue with the cats. Some of the other neighbors also complained they were like literally using brooms to like sweep kitties off their porch. Like there's just a lot of cats. Again, is there no HOA rule saying how many? Is there no city ordinance? How many you can have? Well, I really don't know local laws from different places, but
00:37:57
Speaker
I don't know. We should make a petition about cats. How's that listeners? There you go. Sorry, guys. It's not like I don't like cats. Just come on now. So Andrew called animal control based on just the sheer amount of cats that were roaming. Yeah, I would have a city inspector came into check, found a kiddie pool like the little kids blew like the little
00:38:23
Speaker
yeah plastic blue ones yeah right full of kitty litter nope uh-huh in their basement that is too big of a kitty litter station uh but after up you know upon further research if you will they said that there's nothing to report here and what well she worked at the freaking humane society i know and at the children's advocate whatever that was called i forget but social services so she's got she's got city contact yeah
00:38:53
Speaker
So at that point, she assumed it was Andrew, that reported her, right? And things changed, naturally, right? So, she then decides that Andrew is, now guys, again, there's no proof of any of the accusations that went on between either people because they're gonna tell their version, Andrew's gonna tell his, Klum's gonna tell hers, whatever. But she thought at that point that he was starving his puppies.
00:39:21
Speaker
and left him outside, chained up, no water, no food, blah, blah, blah. So she began to feed them. Andrew caught her one day, told her to get off of his property and mind her own business. So at that time, she was letting Andrew go through her driveway to his backyard with the ATV. And one day, well, one day he ran over her flowers with the ATV and was like pretty upset, right? Devastated about the flowers.
00:39:51
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She thought he did it on purpose. He said it wasn't on purpose. I'm sorry and I guess at that point she said Like
Story 3: JP vs. Holly's Harassment
00:40:01
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she just Like lost it I guess I don't know she said she's witnessed him beating his puppies She called animal control They knocked at the door. He didn't answer so they left him a note
00:40:15
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things got more tense after that. Uh, now Klondis started putting up a fence to like kind of separate their properties. Again, Andrew gotten mad because that keeps her cats in touche, but Andrew's mad now because he can't get to his backyard. Okay. He can eat it too. Well, here's the, um, yeah. So Klondis, uh, wound up having her place broken into.
00:40:44
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Someone ransacked her house stole her TV There was a witness for that and it said that it was an african-american male. So she automatically assumed it was a Yeah, so She did a background check on him. And of course he had a record right assault theft blah blah blah
00:41:03
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So she got security cameras, the whole nine, the lights, the whole, you know, kitten caboodle. The Karen package. The Karen package. I like that. And that's what it is from now on. So, uh, she pointed her lights right at Andrew's house, naturally, right? Uh, which pissed off Andrew. Uh, he told her, could you, could you just not like, could you not do that? Right?
00:41:25
Speaker
She pointed them at Andrew's house either way. So Andrew got his own security crap, right? Of course. He got rid of the two puppies and got two full-grown dogs They never said what kind of dogs they're cat-eating dogs, but I can only imagine that they You know probably I would I would say they're a strong breed, right? so
00:41:52
Speaker
He's got his dogs now. And she decided she was going to try to make friends with these dogs. Of course she did. And she felt that they were hungry. And so she would make them like PB and J sandwiches. You know, anybody, anybody who doesn't know what a PB and J is, it's peanut butter and jelly. Right. I don't, I don't know what other people do. That's just what it does in America.
00:42:10
Speaker
And, uh, yeah, she would just feed them, you know, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, but the dogs would just eat the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and they're like, Hey, if you come close enough, I'm going to eat you too. That's kind of how the dogs reacted. So like my mom's dog, Alfie. Yes. Except for me. All right. Anyways. She, you know, attempted to feed these dogs gained some kind of a relationship with them, but that didn't really help.
00:42:37
Speaker
So she started complaining that the dogs were off leash, roaming around, doing what they planned. They're actually everywhere. They've got two houses. Uh-huh. Yeah, but the dogs, you know, they were roaming around and, you know, I mean, honestly, they're probably kind of vicious dogs, but we don't know, right? They'll learn their boundaries. There you go. They'll learn their boundaries. So,
00:43:04
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At one point, the dogs did, in fact, try to kill one of her cats. She got the house. I knew that was going to come. Yeah, the cat or the she got the cat back into the house before the dogs get to either one of them. And she felt threatened by this.
00:43:17
Speaker
Okay, I'll tell you, there's nothing more terrifying than a dog. Oh, I know. Do you remember when Duke and Lacey fought over that cow bone and I legit was like crying and wouldn't break them up and that was my dog? I remember when those two random dogs over at the lake house came after you and Elfie escaped the house somehow and like charged those two dogs. I remember that like it was yesterday. Dude, dog. German Sheppard guys, by the way, and she was not playing any games that night.
00:43:44
Speaker
I don't, I am terrified of dogs that I don't know, or any dogs that bark a lot and look mean, or bark, you know, just sporadically. So, I understand how that'd be kind of traumatizing. Yeah. So, after that whole- Okay, I'm sorry, but that lady is legit walking her cat in a baby stroller. She just, it's like every episode we do now, so one of your whack job neighbors
00:44:13
Speaker
Like this lady, I'm not kidding. I'm trying to talk quietly cause we're in the open, but this lady is walking her cat in a cat stroller, which if you do that good on you, you're getting healthy. But we're talking about a cat Karen lady. And one just walked by and earlier we were talking about the noise plate and he blew his leaf. I would just like to say.
00:44:32
Speaker
that's insane in the public everywhere else that you always consider be the judgmental one and today i have i'm not judging victory i'm not judging over the podcast no i am i'm i judge everybody equally but dude you're not so vocal about it we're talking about we're talking about a lady with cats and this lady's walking her cats in a stroller it's kind of amazing it is amazing it's kind of amazing more effort than i'd put into anything yeah between the names that's hysterical that both times it's happened i know it i'm done continue all right
00:45:01
Speaker
So after she felt threatened, she started having this anxiety about Andrew's kids. Hold on. OK. And, you know, just being the person that she was, she wasn't just going to walk away if she felt like a kid was in danger. And so one day she saw the oldest was probably like a preteen in the street playing with his younger sister. And she rang the doorbell and told Andrew's wife
00:45:31
Speaker
You know, these kids could get hit by a car. They really should probably move. And she basically got the door shut. So she called social services. Oh, my gosh, that is like, can I just tell you, though, guys like.
00:45:48
Speaker
there's an appropriate time no but you know what and it really but there's not because when you're an outside specter looking into a situation it's whatever you choose to believe at that time if you're not thinking on a normal level you know what I'm saying like
00:46:08
Speaker
Come on, bro. Do you? Yeah, but you say that, but a kid shows up with bruises. Exactly. Like, you're supposed to report. So if you think something's legitimately wrong, you best report. Absolutely. But then, but do you really think that even if there's something absolutely legitimately wrong that somebody's not going to retaliate against something like that, especially when you know your kids could possibly be taken care of? Oh, heck no. You just open a bucket of crazy. Yeah. Like, even if you are maybe a little bit
00:46:36
Speaker
I won't say to like neglectful, but like more passive about what your kids do. Yeah. I'm just saying like that's, that's just for me. That's such a gray area. And I've worked with kids for a long, long time. And can I just tell you guys that we did call on certain people.
00:46:54
Speaker
quite a few times where we knew kids weren't eating. We knew they weren't being bathed. We knew all the, and they just brushed it off so many times. So like when I hear some of this stuff where they actually show up and investigate, I'm like, where were you bro? Like. But she, again, she works in social services, so she knows who to call and what to say to get what she wants done done. She has connections with the city.
00:47:22
Speaker
So naturally, Andrew got a visit from social services and he was furious. He confronted her and she felt threatened yet again and hid in her house. He said he was going to start killing her cats. Like that was what she said the threat was. Screw you. Screw everything about you. I hate you. I hate your cats. They're going to die. That's kind of where that that holds her call.
00:47:44
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Not long after the threat came, some of the cats started turning up dead. So she would like find them in the middle of the road like they had been hit by a car. But according to her, it looked more like they were used as a chew toy. Well, you if you're going to do that, you shouldn't announce it because you're the number one person. OK, there's a part of me that thinks that you're harboring things that maybe you shouldn't be talking about online. But not.
00:48:13
Speaker
Yeah, I get that. But what I'm saying is, like, if you're going to do it and it's illegal, you don't tell people. Yeah, but like who threatens it outwardly? And then like a day later, does it not? Like, come on, people hear you guys. I know enough. I wrote this broadcast to you. We now have a second cat stroller. A second one purple. The last one was purple, too. This is two cat strollers.
00:48:41
Speaker
Maybe she just put the lid down so the cat never heard of it. That's why it's got the big mesh things dumb dumb. You're calling me a dumb dumb. How do you know it's not the same lady who has a hood up at one point and put the hood down? The other lady was 25. That lady's 105 if she's a day. That's how. OK, continue. But there's all this mother. Yeah. Yeah, all right.
00:49:01
Speaker
This is why I keep losing my spot. You have no idea how to shut the trap. You've never had this many weirdo neighbors walking around. You know, appropriately. You're really seeing it because you're having the same effect about neighbors that I'm having about neighbors right now. And I'm going to continue, guys, because this story doesn't get any better, OK? So she hid in her house. She made a huge fence around her house. All that goes down, right?
00:49:32
Speaker
She decided she was going to file a restraining order. It's like what everybody does, right? So during during the court session, because they actually like had Andrew and everybody like it was a thing. It was a trial. Andrew argued that like the issue is just with really with the property and that he believed that the property line that she was building the fence on wasn't her property. Well, the judge agreed. Oh, uh huh. So he was trying to encourage.
00:50:00
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Yeah, well, yeah, but she didn't know that she was trying to approach because that house that he bought laid abandoned for so long. And she used as her cat stomping ground. She knew cat stomping plus the house down the road.
00:50:12
Speaker
Oh, Lord. I can't. I can't. I am. Why would you not just buy that? But here's the deal. I can't talk ill of her anymore because while some of it I do find very, very just odd. OK, you know, things things are about stuck in. Nasty. So the judge agreed. There was no restraining order. She felt the system that had had filled her basically. So not long after that, one of Andrew's daughters fell down the stairs.
00:50:39
Speaker
and it was such a bad like issue that she was rushed to New York. Andrew was arrested then for suspicion or suspicion of neglect because one neighbor to the south. Well, one neighbor recounted Klanda saying I bet he wasn't paying attention.
Story 3 Climax: Legal & Personal Fallout
00:50:56
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They say their daughter had to learn how to walk again, how to talk again. And so for me, when I'm sitting here and I'm like, what do you mean she fell down the stairs? And Lauren had to walk and talk again. That's not fall down the stairs. That's kind of what I thought, too. Because at this, from up to this point, I was kind of on Andrew's side. This chick is just looking for reasons. You know what I'm saying? But then when I heard that, I was like, how do you fall down the stairs?
00:51:24
Speaker
and have to learn how to talk again and walk again. So the kids who were removed from home and Andrew's hatred to her Klonda was like boiling over in the toilet. Andrew threatened Klonda said he would let the dogs after her. She called animal control multiple times over the dogs being in her yard and wandering wherever and she became a shut-in. Like literally she never left the house. Like she she was freaking out.
00:51:51
Speaker
She literally, constantly felt terrified, okay? One morning at 4 a.m., she got up to go deal with the cats at her house and the cats that were down the street, yeah? Somehow, and nobody knows how, her cameras, her security cameras were closed. And for whatever reason, because it was completely out of the ordinary, completely not normal, both of Andrew's dogs were outside.
00:52:22
Speaker
All these things just magically. Yeah, the stars line as she walked down her driveway. The dogs appeared. The dogs were between. The house and the fence that she built. No. OK, so she literally was trapped. The dogs attacked. And she screamed and screamed, but nobody came to help later that morning.
00:52:49
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a neighbor saw parts of like a human body, like blood, like just skin and bone, whatever, just savagely mauled, right? And they called the cops. So it was pretty clear to the cops that this woman had been mauled by these dogs, right? One witness said she actually heard Wanda screaming for almost 20 minutes, but nobody did anything. How did they know that she was dead? That's the biggest part.
00:53:18
Speaker
No, that's the part that pisses me off. How do you listen to somebody scream for 20 minutes and not do anything? Not at least call 911, like something. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like, how do you just not do anything? Like, to listen to somebody scream for 20 minutes. Call 911 at the very least. Like, if you're too scared to go outside, which I get it, I would not want to go outside either. Personally, I'd make my husband.
00:53:45
Speaker
but everybody in the neighborhood hears random screams from times. Not when you're being mauled by two rabbit dogs. Yeah, I mean, that's not a peaceful way to go. Like she clearly wasn't just screaming. She was like blood curdling. You know what I mean? And so like you're sitting here and you literally listened for 20 minutes. Like you actually gave the cops that timeframe. Oh, I heard somebody screaming for like 20 minutes.
00:54:16
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Yeah, we can look at each other in silence, Faith, but that's what happened. All right, so 20 minutes later, right? All right, so Andrew and his girlfriend's bedroom window was actually right above where the attack happened. So they just watched. Watched, listened, did nothing, pretty much, yeah. So the cops, when they approached the scene, actually had to shoot the two dogs because there was no other way in. Because they were going to kill them. They just mauled someone to death. Someone to death, right?
00:54:45
Speaker
So Andrew, you know, let's wrap these things up, right? Andrew was arrested, but the only thing he said when he was arrested was, why did you kill my dogs? Yeah, he got three years for reckless homicide. Three years because they couldn't prove that he let the dogs out. OK, now look, guys,
00:55:13
Speaker
Crazy Karen, cat lady, whatever you wanna call them, okay? That's a bad way to go. Yeah, exactly what I'm saying. That does not justify murdering somebody by mauling. That's like the worst way to go. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like annoy her by letting off the firecrackers until she moves. You know what I mean? But like, it really had to go that far. Yeah, you took it way too far. After telling her, like, I'm gonna kill you with my dogs.
00:55:41
Speaker
And then you killed her with your dogs. Right. Oh, intense, intense. So I'm going to get to my third story and I'm going to say this name out and I want everybody faith, including you to hear the name and I'm actually going to make you repeat this name. Okay. All right. So his name is Jean. Jean. Pierre. Pierre. Billard. Billard. So he goes by JP. Okay.
00:56:11
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Right. So he packed up him and his family and they moved to a beach side town in Florida. Although the selling point was how beautiful this this area was, he had another reason. JP was a carpenter who suffered a horrible back injury trying to carry a bathtub or something like that up the stairs. He planned on having corrective surgery and so he just really wanted a place that was peaceful to recover because it was going to be an intense surgery. Yeah. OK. So
00:56:42
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The neighbors described the family as very nice, very friendly, almost the kind of family that you could envy. J.P. had another neighbor who felt the exact opposite. Enter Holly Bodnow. Her and her boyfriend lived next door. She was a Florida licensed psychologist. People said she was super smart, seemed very sweet. Everything was going fine.
00:57:09
Speaker
until it wasn't JP's daughter was a very happy and friendly kid. Love to play. All right. She was younger. OK, we're talking like eight years old type. All right. Well, playing outside and all the other kids would always end up coming. Like JP's house became like the house, you know, where all the kids congregate. Right.
00:57:31
Speaker
and they would leave toys in the yard and stuff like that. And apparently this seemed to upset Holly. She just didn't like- She'd hate to be my neighbor. Right? She didn't like bikes in the driveway and honking the horn because you need to move your ball or whatever. It was in her property, whatever. So we'll jump in a little bit. Like I said, guys, I'm going to have to wrap this up pretty quick.
00:57:58
Speaker
I'm going to jump around. They want to hear it. They want to hear it because this is my this is not my favorite story that this is the best story that I've ever heard. So just take it. So Holly had this little dog that pretty much ran free, which was an issue for like everybody, neighbors, all that because they had a leash law where your cat your your dog had to either be in a linked chain chain link fence or whatever fence in yard. And if they weren't, they had to be on a leash.
00:58:28
Speaker
And apparently Holly was above that, and her little dog could just go do whatever they wanted to do, right? So one day, Holly's dog took a doo-doo in JP's front lawn, and his daughter stepped in, right? Holly was actually outside, right? And he asked her if she would just come over and clean it up, because that's what you do when your dog keeps dumping somebody else's lawn, right? You have a little plastic bag, you pick it up, and you move on.
00:58:58
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Holly was like, no, you can't really prove that it was my dog. Would you just? Oh, so being a smarty pants, JP was like, oh, all right. Well, you want to pick this up? That's fine. So JP picked it up himself, put it in a brown bag and lifted on Holly's doorstep. Nice. At least he didn't poop on her lawn himself. That's where I thought he was going. Yeah, that would have been pretty funny. So apparently Holly was like,
00:59:26
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You know, I feel threatened by this. Oh, sweet Mary. And called the cops. Right. For her own dog. She called. She called. She called the Popo over some poo poo. All right. The cops showed up, questioned him and gave him a warning. And she was not happy that he just got off of the warning. Right. Because I guess there are no police to come and arrest someone when they give you poop. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:56
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I don't know. Wow. So being the best psycho, I mean, sorry, psychiatrist ever. She used her resources by getting access to court renders. But you can't do that. It's just like the other lady. No, no, no, no, no, honey. We're not even close. All right. Just hold on. Hold on. And she found just what she was looking for.
01:00:23
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criminal charges, that JP was beating his wife and abusing his child. He even did time for it, right? So that's the true story. It's still not her business. Uh-huh, uh-huh. No, just listen. OK? All right. What was his name? Jean Pierre Velar. Velar. Jean Pierre. Jean Pierre Velar. JP. Keep that in mind, all right?
01:00:54
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So, uh, yeah, he did time for beating his wife or whatever. So Holly and her boyfriend started spreading gossip all over the neighborhood about JP. Mind your business. People, people wouldn't even talk to JP at this point. And he was just kind of like, okay, whatever. And this is the poor guy that moved there to like get ready for his back Thursday. Oh man. So.
01:01:18
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Yeah, I don't know. He just was, he didn't care. One day Holly's dog made another poopy in his yard. And so JP picked up the dog cause he was right there when it happened. He picked the dog up and he took it back to Holly's house, you know, whacked on the door and was like, can you, could you just keep your dog out of my lawn? Like off my lawn, off my property. Like I'm tired of picking up food, right? Um, she told him to leave the dog on the porch and had her boyfriend call the cops because she felt like he was drunk and being threatening to her.
01:01:48
Speaker
Oh, all right. No, it gets better. So after no evidence whatsoever could be found by the Popo, the cops let JP off the hook. They apologize and like, sorry for the inconvenience. And so now Holly decides she needed a very, very bright floodlight to protect herself. The Karen package. The Karen package. She shined the light where?
01:02:10
Speaker
Into JP's house. Into JP's house, so we called the cops. Holly said she needed them for safety. All of the neighbors complained. All of them. They were like, this is completely unnecessary. These are way too, because they were like halogen lights. So far the neighbors are on JP's side about the dog. It's like a bat signal. Yeah. Yeah. That's like a bat signal, shining into this guy's house. Okay. So
01:02:35
Speaker
She had to turn them off and she was not happy that she had to tell her what to do. So according to some resources, all right, she, at that point, after this whole thing, it was, it was claimed that she swerved intentionally into what, while she was driving, right? Into JP's eight year old daughters.
01:03:00
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way while she was running, like kind of swerved out. What a jerk. OK, there's no proof, but that was the alleged deal, right? So at this point, when the daughter came in, you know, crying, dad, this is what happened. She ran me off the road. Well, so far, JP is not even being like petty like he's not. Not even a little bit. He's not playing the crazy game. The brown, the brown paper bag poo poo like he hasn't. But he didn't even light it on fire, bro. Like he's not being petty. Like he's just saying, here's your poo.
01:03:30
Speaker
deal with it, I picked it up for you, I bagged it. Bagged. Packaged. Thank you. Whatever. There you go. So, uh, JP ran over there like friggin piss. Oh. And was like, stay away from my house, stay away from my family, stay away from anything that could possibly involve me. Oh yeah, I would go off with one of my kids. So, that's scared for Holly. Crazy pants.
01:03:57
Speaker
And I'm sure guys at that point, like, I'm sure JP wasn't the most pleasant human, okay? No, your kid comes in crying. I don't care if it's the first time you've met, so when my kid comes in crying saying they swerved at me, it can be the first time I've ever seen your face, heard your name, we're having work, and you will feel threatened. Because I'll be clear, I will be threatening you. Or I'll make you and your brother, because I'm not very good at threatening people, but I make you do it, so.
01:04:25
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So, after that whole incident, she was scared, right? Because here's this psycho, drunken, whatever, right? She just came face to face, okay? With this dreaded, fierce, wife-beating, John... I bet it's not even... John Bullard. Like J.O.H.ian? Uh-huh.
01:04:54
Speaker
And I am pretty sure you don't spell John. Uh-huh. No, it's J-E-A-N. Yeah, French. Yeah, Jean-Pierre. That's two different names. Uh-huh. I knew that's what I was fixing to say. I bet it wasn't even his criminal record. All right. So, get it all friggin' John Velar.
01:05:12
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piece of crap that guy is, right? Only one problem, not JP's name. No. JP's name is John Pierre, hyphen, Valar. I get that if you hear John and John, you might think the same, but she looked it up. Here's the deal. You can't spell. She went from, cause he went by JP, right? Yeah. And so she thought John Valar was his name. His last name was actually Pierre.
01:05:40
Speaker
So she got everybody in arms on him and it's not even him. So she literally had everything completely wrong. Completely wrong. Like this guy is one hundred and ten percent innocent of every all right. So so at this point, JP had his back surgery. Right. Which was not a minor thing. Like not even close. He had rods and plates. No back all kinds of stuff. Right. And your recovery time is like massive.
01:06:06
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Oh, yeah. And so pain levels. Well, excruciating. Right. And that's, you know, she didn't seem to care. Right. So she turned the lights back on. JP called the cops. Yeah. He can't even do it right. Yeah. She even tried to take it up with town hall that this guy was a monster. And they told her to leave. She exploded with rage and had to be escorted out.
01:06:35
Speaker
Okay. Has anyone pointed out she looked up the wrong name? Or does she just not care? Well, here's the deal. In her mind, she found the right dude, right?
01:06:48
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And so the cops don't know where her mind is at right now. So all these times that the local cops have been called and called and called and called. Right. She's under the impression that he's not. He is this guy like he is this. So they haven't connected these dots yet. Yeah. This psychologist, by the way, trained in mental health that that whole nine. I wanted to reiterate that before we kept going. OK, I'm trying to be.
01:07:14
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so correctly correct if you will and it this story is not easy because it really really pisses me off so JP called the cops um she did the whole town hall thing uh she was just freaking out about JP uh JP is trying to recover and at this point he can walk with a walker and he can like take short little laps like around um like
01:07:38
Speaker
just his lawn and whatever. And as he was taking his laps, he started actually rekindling relationships with his neighbors. Just for him. At one point, JP got into an argument with Holly's boyfriend, because there was he or so JP was talking to one of his neighbors in his lawn. Yeah. And that that man had a dog with. Yeah. The off leash dog, which would be Holly's dog. Yeah. Her boyfriend was outside.
01:08:06
Speaker
Yeah. Two dogs get into a scuffle. And JP's, I'm sorry, Holly's boyfriend starts like screaming, yelling, cursing the whole nine. JP looks at this guy and was like, dude, my daughter's right here. Could you just stop? Yeah, I say it all the time. All the time. Every time someone scores on my kid, I say you said you would. Yeah, I know. I met you. All right. So. You know what Holly did? I don't want to know. Come on, you got to guess.
01:08:35
Speaker
She called the cops. She called the cops. Yep, yep, yep. Of course she did. So pissed again that JP was not arrested, right? He didn't do anything wrong. No, literally nothing. OK, they they literally were two grown men arguing about stupidity. He was not arrested. And the local the local police department. Was like, did this guy's clearly like in pain right now?
01:09:04
Speaker
and they actually escorted him back to his house. Like normal, good people? Yeah, like a little good Samaritan, right? So after all that happened, she decided that she was going to go to the local police department and request that JP would be committed. Why? Well, because
01:09:33
Speaker
He was a white abuser and a daughter abuser and, you know, downright piece of crap. Right. Oh, yeah. To which the local police said, no. Go local police, right? Going to the police station.
01:09:54
Speaker
and be like, I want to know what was all that authority, right? With all your degrees in your near mumbo jumbo, right? So she does that, right? Um, they said no. And she was like that. She took that laying down. She went. She are our lovely little psycho. OK. And I'm not I'm not even going to like reform that by saying psychologist because she's just a psycho.
01:10:22
Speaker
Oh, she went to a judge and lied. Bold faced lied to the judge and said that she had been JP's therapist for over a year, that he was an alcoholic. He was beating his wife. He was beating his daughter. He was on drugs. He had brain damage. But why would you list goes on? They can look at her medical records. She doesn't have any. But they didn't. They were going on like, oh, type.
01:10:52
Speaker
This is her, this is this man's psychologist. Did she lose her license? We're going to get there. She better have. I feel like that's all I ever say to you when you ask me questions. We'll get there. So yeah, she asked for this, you know, for JP to be committed. So the judge took 14 minutes to sign away the permission to have JP committed.
01:11:13
Speaker
So under what's called the Baker Act, okay, authorities can take and hold JP for 72 hours to be evaluated. He's can barely walk. Okay. So up until this point, it has been the local law enforcement that have been dealing with the dispute between Holly and JP, but it was the sheriff's department who went to pick JP up and take him in. Okay. So they are absolutely blind to the fact that this man had
01:11:42
Speaker
been at it with Holly for a long time. Well, he hadn't been at it. He'd been at it. Yeah. He was still recovering from an intense back surgery. Right. The cops arrived. They knocked at the door. JP answered and the cops had come with me. He asked what they said. I'll explain later. You need to come with me. And began to force him from his house. I bet that felt good. So he starts telling them, guys, I'm not resisting arrest. I just had surgery. I cannot walk without help.
01:12:12
Speaker
All of that just fell on deaf ears, okay? So neighbors started coming out of their house while JP was being forced down the driveway. He was following the cops, snatching him up, putting his arms behind his back, just hollering in pain, okay? Like just, I mean, could you imagine the excruciating pain after this man's not, you know what I mean? Plus they're gonna mess up what the surgery did.
01:12:39
Speaker
Well, yeah, so neighbors rushed out and they were screaming, stop, stop. Like he just had surgery. He cannot walk on his own. And the cops just kept pulling and twisting him, trying to shove him into the back of the cop car. So these cops were under the impression that JP was a violent, drunk, crazy person. So they could only go off of the report that Holly filed. Why would you not look, but they're OK.
01:13:09
Speaker
There is, if he was a wife beater, they could have looked that up. They didn't even do a basic search. Everybody that even heard or looked at anything that happened said that there were so many failures that happened at this point. His wife should have sued. His wife wasn't even home at the time. When she got back, she should have sued. Absolutely. I agree. I absolutely agree.
01:13:30
Speaker
because there was no proof that he was any of these things. Because he wasn't. John was. John was that absolute crap. Uh-huh. So, uh, yep, they got him to back of the car. Um, and they drove him to the mental health center where they would not admit him. They said he needed to be taken to the ER. Because of his back?
01:14:02
Speaker
Right? So after the incident, his back was like done. You think? All right. So they sent him home the next day, you know, painkillers, the whole nine. And pretty much all JP did was like cry in pain and then not like that's pretty much where he was at. Right. That's absolutely crap. Did Holly care? No. No. Holly did not care. She was so pissed off that he was home already that she called social services.
01:14:32
Speaker
Yep, they came. They found absolutely nothing that supported the claims that she had filed. And, you know, she's basically just that shit crazy. Like, I mean, I don't understand how other way to explain it. Right. So so much so that her own boyfriend, Faith, at this time was like, you're nuts. I'm out. And he left her. Good. All right. Because I'm surely surely. Surely he was at the point where he was like,
01:15:02
Speaker
girl, you need to pump the brakes. You need to go back and read some of your books. Right. And look at the definition. What was the degree you had? Right. Right. Frickin certified in so many ways. I was upon it. So. Yeah. So after Holly pulled all that BS, the the family issues continued and just kept getting more devastated because the
01:15:32
Speaker
JP received a letter from the company that he worked for him. He lived in New Jersey saying that his new injury is not their responsibility to cover under workman's call. So they cut him off. It was her fault and the police's fault. They should have to pay for it. You would think, but no, apparently not. They were completely devastated because the only income they had was from his wife. And it's a beach house of four. You can't have a single income and try to afford an apartment these days. You ain't lying. So they wound up having a move.
01:16:03
Speaker
They got away from Karen. Well, what was supposed to be like this amazing new start turning into a nightmare?
01:16:11
Speaker
Holly had thought she won because they finally moved, right? But all of her stupidity came back and kicked her right in the ass. Good. Sorry, you're right. My bad. After an investigation, the prosecution charged her with perjury for lying on the Baker Act court. Did she get her license removed? There was no trial. She pled no contest and got 10 weeks or weekends in jail.
01:16:36
Speaker
We get weekends not even like 10 weeks like just the weekend Now mm-hmm Not long after they moved less than a year JP's wife left for work He was at home laying on the couch watching his ten-year-old daughter at the time and She heard him making noises She ran to him and asked him what was wrong, but he couldn't respond He took one hard long breath and stopped moving
01:17:08
Speaker
This is John Pierre. Yeah, I know. His daughter screamed for him to wake up, but he couldn't. It turns out that due to the injuries he had developed, he had developed a blood clot. And that's what took his life. His family and the prosecution or the prosecutor's office believe that
01:17:33
Speaker
It was the event that took place that evening. Yeah. He was Baker acted that caused the blood blood with the lines. Yeah. Does she still have her license? So do this. They prosecuted her and Polly got five years of probation by the Florida board of psychology. The end. The end.
01:17:56
Speaker
That's it. That's all that happened. I know. She got a slap on the wrist. Pretty much, yeah. For killing him. For literally making his life. Now, she didn't physically do it. She didn't stab him, but she was indirectly responsible for this man's life. His death, right? And after I did this one, this is why I said that you were going to be so pissed at the end of this, right? Because there are no words. She got to keep a frigging license after five years. She's mental. She should have been committed herself. Did anyone ever point out to her that she looked up the wrong record? Oh, yeah.
01:18:26
Speaker
She still believes that she looked up the right guy. You know what I would say go. I hope. Since there is a nice vacancy next to Holly that. Ted Bundy moves in. No, Carl, I think his big a burnt speakers moves in next to her from the first story. Yeah, because those two would really have a heyday.
01:18:51
Speaker
Oh yeah. Cause he'd be Penny right back to her. Yeah, but she would just have him committed. Freaking kidding me. Talk about him and abuse of power real quick. By all of them. It is not like Holly should have been prosecuted way harsher. Her license should have been removed. Her name is. The moment she falsified a document, she should not only lost her license. Okay. But you literally like ruined a man's, you slandered his name.
01:19:20
Speaker
Yeah. Like she should have done jail time for sure. But not only that, shame on that judge and shame on that sheriff's office for not doing like a basic search. Basic. Like you can't just
01:19:35
Speaker
You can't just commit someone with absolutely, like there are circumstances where you need to commit people, and I get that. But with no evidence. It was so nonchalant. And that's the deal. She said that I've been his psychiatrist for a year. There's an easy, quick paper trail that she could not have fabricated a year's worth of. Hell, look at his medical bills. Language. Hell is a place. You say bad words. I know.
01:20:06
Speaker
I'm really angry. I know. And it's all three of them, too, because why couldn't you have at least ended on the guy with the bird speakers? Because that story was besides the ending. There's a lot, a lot, a lot more laugh. This is because the first one is so petty. Yeah, but in the second one is like, seriously, but then it almost kind of just makes you think like.
01:20:29
Speaker
Right? And then you get to the third one, and they're so polar opposite. And that's why I chose these three stories. They are so different, but so similar. Can I say something? No. The first two, at least it was both parties being ridiculous.
01:20:48
Speaker
The last one he didn't like, the only time he participated quote unquote in the pettiness is when his daughter came in crying because this lady almost hit her with a car and he was a good parent and went and you know, had words. That was it. He didn't do all the crap and everything else like he didn't, like he didn't participate in it. Like he lived his life and just ignored her.
01:21:18
Speaker
And she won. Yeah, she did. She absolutely won. And that's why the three stories that I picked is because it's like they all progressively got just a little bit more like, I can take his side. I can take that side. And then it's like, what just happened? You know what I mean? It's like you have a battle that went on in the first story. There was no breaking point. She was just broken. Yeah. And treating other people's mental health.
01:21:47
Speaker
I would like to ask. Yeah. I think that's kind of what got me the most about that story is like you're a professional in the mind, right? And you couldn't tell the difference between Jean-Pierre. Jean? Jean-Pierre Vilar and Jean Vilar. They weren't even spelled the same way. Holly, but shame on you. Yeah. Sorry, I had to look back on her name on your notes. Yeah. You know what? I hope you step in your own dog's poo. All right.
01:22:17
Speaker
And I really wish. And you couldn't prove it was your dog. I wish the neighbors that she has now, because she wound up moving too. I want to know if people actually go to her for mental health. Because I don't think that's safe. No, I agree. Like, I'm being dead serious. Yeah. Like, it's not a ha ha. She's crazy. Like, she should not be able to give mental health advice and opinions to anyone else when she calls the death of someone else by literally, I mean,
01:22:44
Speaker
John John. They sound alike, but they do not look alike. No, it's not even that. His last name legally isn't even the law. And I get here. What? How do you spell the John's last name? Is it the exact same spelling? Exactly. So it's not even the, like, she, she just looked up someone that sounded like it. The other one is B A L L A H by the way, just so we're all clear.
01:23:09
Speaker
So what did she do? Go to the criminal search database? Her name was Jay? Last name B? And pick the worst record and just convince herself? Who knows? What if his name was Jimmy Vines? I'm guessing that wouldn't matter. No. And she is responsible for people's mental health. How is that safe? It's not. It's not. That's why I was so, like, so, like, just furious at the end of that because it's like, like, you got five years.
01:23:37
Speaker
Probation, not jail, pro-freaking-bation. No, not even jail, not legal, anything. Probation solely from your licensed practice medicine. I'm so pissed off. And he was cute as a button. Mm-hmm. Yep. Just a man living his life trying to support his family. That is, I am. Oh, and she looks crazy. Yeah. Yeah, she does.
01:24:05
Speaker
I never looked up photos. I'm trying to look at where she's at now because I I can't be okay with her just having a full life.
01:24:12
Speaker
I'm sorry, that makes me petty, and that makes me ridiculous and judgmental. But she can't just get away scot-fricking-free and tell people, give people advice on their mental health when she was bat-cracked crazy and basically killed a guy. Took away his family's livelihood. They had to move from their house. She knew
Discussion: Human Behavior & Mental Health
01:24:32
Speaker
he had surgery. She knew it was that surgery. And literally didn't care. Like, just didn't care. And just, no, I'm not OK with that. No.
01:24:41
Speaker
And like, you know, I vacation in Florida and I'm kind of curious where she lives because I would love to just for the whole week I'm there on vacation. And she played a no contest in a bag. She knew she lied. Yep. You have got to be. According to her social media profile, she continues to run a private practice. There you go. According to C-E-N-G-N-E-W-S dot com.
01:25:10
Speaker
She is still practicing. How is that okay? I don't know, man. Maybe, you know, I bet that she sees. She only has 1.3 stars. We should give her less. She probably treats Andrew and Paul. So many of the other people. Out of 101 ratings, 1.3 stars. I'm trying to. That is absolute.
01:25:37
Speaker
I'm angry. That's not, I'm, I'm really, really, really legitimately obsessed. Like his whole world was wrong. And he didn't do anything wrong. He did nothing.
01:25:47
Speaker
He did nothing. You know what guys? Here's the deal too. Even if you threaten anything against anybody else, it's verbal and the cops can't do anything about anything. Sorry. Okay. So I don't want to get in trouble for false advertising, but according to vitals.com, she does have 1.3 stars, but mainly it's because, um, people like us.
01:26:09
Speaker
and giving her very little stars for, and I quote, this psychopath should be in jail for the rest of her life. Everyone should steer clear of this criminal. The title of this is Psycho and a One Star Review. The other one star review at the top says Holly Bonner literally used her practice as a means to commit fraud and a weapon to destroy lives.
01:26:32
Speaker
She is a sociopathic criminal. It is a failure of the criminal justice system that she is not in prison and allowed to hold a license. Thank you, America. Whatever show you watch that show this story. No, you know what? Thank you, people. Yeah, but that's literally like so. Fear thy neighbor is where I got my stories from. There are so many of them that I could talk about, but.
01:26:54
Speaker
But that's literally like legit. She has, she has seven good reviews, but 91 people have gone on and just trashed her based off, which I'm sorry. Maybe she reformed and maybe she apologized and maybe she knows that she went a bit crazy and everybody goes through hard times.
01:27:11
Speaker
But you have to have consequences for your actions. When your actions take the life of someone else because you act like a nutbag, you shouldn't get to help other people's mental health. Like, you should have a consequence of not being able to practice. That's what I'm saying too. Like, anytime you become fraudulent on any kind of government document, that should be, you would think, a federal crime. A judge
Conclusion: Managing Conflicts & Assumptions
01:27:34
Speaker
making it federal, right, signed off on this under false pretenses because she forged the entire thing.
01:27:42
Speaker
Also, I think the judge should get a slap on the wrist, maybe not like disbarred from his position, but like, bro, are you dumb? Like, did you snort something when you signed this? Like, that's what I'm saying. Shame on that judge and shame on that police department because just a customary, like if you're going to commit someone for 72 hours, you should at least, I mean, frick, Google him. Yeah.
01:28:10
Speaker
But I would rather you look at like a criminal records and see that she's a crazy person or any kind of medical record. But Google, look at his Facebook, look up anything to justify your actions. And he told them I had back surgery. I'm not resisting. I legitimately cannot walk by myself. The neighbors told him and they still put him in cuffs and film in the back of the car. Just further. They his wife should have sued. Absolutely. And if she is already passed on, his kids should.
01:28:41
Speaker
Because you know what? That's crap. Oh, yeah. Giant, giant bags. I'm sorry. I told you it was going to be a good one. But she. She didn't have a consequence. No, he lost his life. She got a freaking slap on her. His daughter and his wife lost their favorite human. Right. And she was like, oh, well.
01:29:07
Speaker
I guess I just won't because he asked her to pick up the freaking poop on her yard. His yard. Yeah. So I guess that's that's the biggest question. Like, what's what's the boiling point right there? What's the break? She was broken before a human mind. But think about all three cases that we just talked about.
01:29:27
Speaker
Now the first case, they drove each other crazy. Either one of them could have snapped at any given point. But was it worth that? No. This is why example A, B, and C, why I don't talk to people. C, C. C? My brothers always say that I hate all people. But I'm just being smart and keeping self-preservation. Because I have a lot of annoying habits for people to want to. But true to the head, yeah. That is the worst.
01:29:58
Speaker
It's still practicing medicine right now Sarasota, Florida. Oops, did I say where she was? You know what though? Andrew's still roaming free doing whatever he wants to do. He was, he was on probation. The guy who's maul, dogs maul? Hey, Andrew moved to Sarasota. Yeah. Hey, there's a girl out there named Holly. You two would hit it off. Yeah, you totally would. That's crap.
01:30:23
Speaker
We should. We. The only one that was arrested and served time for his crimes was Paul. I'm sorry, but Paul Paul getting the biggest speakers and two of the bird noises. It was so messed up, but like what they need to do is what I would like to see in a show is OK, so let's not get to the murder point.
01:30:43
Speaker
and cut out the last story because it really freaking pisses me off. Right. John did nothing wrong. Yeah. But the other two, the one who had the crazy neighbor got to the breaking point. Yeah. Like before they get to that point when they're just being like petty. It's like how worse can it how much worse let me switch you out as their neighbor and let me. Yeah. Good Lord. If I was your neighbor, I would get to my breaking point quick. I have kept my mouth shut over over the hound parking that we talked about earlier. I've had some ideas.
01:31:13
Speaker
Cause I thought like, you have 85 kids in the backyard screaming and beating each other. What are you even talking about? Now, now people are going to think I'm crazy. You got to stop talking. You always watch all the kids. I do. Yeah. The thing is I've had some ideas about the hound and I thought like I get up at like five every morning.
01:31:34
Speaker
how much fun it would be to just go over and park like right in front of their driveway and get a big speaker and do bird noises. Do bird noises. I was thinking like Blair, my my horn, you know, in my car, whatever, you know, they sell ones that sound like a choo choo train. I don't want to thank your mom. She said exactly. I said that quietly. You're like, she can't just let her know that she probably misunderstand what you said anyway. It's delightful. Hmm. It's fun. Dude, I'm so mad.
01:32:02
Speaker
I know. She's practicing mental health. Yep. Good old Andrew probably still out. You know, you tell Heather about the story even cars. No, I know. Oh, I know. She would have been like, Oh my God. She would have been like, I can't even imagine what Heather's. Okay. I'm sorry. Our other sister-in-law has a background in mental health. Okay. She actually works for a mental health facility.
01:32:27
Speaker
and we're probably get her to guest star at some point, okay? But I really want her to hear this story and be like, she's one of the people that we would have put in the padded room.
01:32:40
Speaker
And nobody like said No, man, like no and it's nothing for anybody to say she was doing all this stuff like Anonymous like anything anything you do where you're calling in any kind of a complaint whether it's child services animal control Frickin just the cops because of a loud party you can do any of that anonymously Not give a report under oath that I mean that no that was a different story though She had to sign her name saying
01:33:09
Speaker
You know, hey, I've treated this guy, I've done this, I've done A, B, C, and D, right? And that was what you grew up without a dad. Yeah. And no, here's what pisses me off the most. She was there when he died. She watched it by herself. Yeah.
01:33:23
Speaker
10 years old. You wanna talk about being friggin' scarred? Yeah, she's gonna have to go to therapy. Over some crazy... And you know what? She probably won't get the help she needs, because I guarantee she has a little bit of bias against mental health professionals. And there are a lot of great mental health professionals, but like, she'd ever trust one. Or her mom. No. I mean, you know, no two people are the same. And I feel like there's always that fine line that gets drawn in the sand.
01:33:50
Speaker
Nobody, nobody is beyond the breaking point. No. Nobody. There's always going to be somebody who- I teed her on my breaking point every day. Right.
01:34:02
Speaker
But again, we're gonna jump back into this, okay? Because it's a point that we have made, both of us have talked about multiple times, it's what you're feeding yourself. This woman got herself so wrapped up in what she thought was real. But it wasn't. No, it wasn't. But in her mind, she didn't research anything else. She found one name, researched that name, and from that point on,
01:34:28
Speaker
That's what she focused on. That was it. It was what she was feeding her mentality, her mind, her heart, her soul, everything. She was putting everything that was about her into what JP was doing. Everything she witnessed, whether he was playing in the backyard with her kid, whether he was just, you know, yelling because he got upset because his lawnmower wouldn't start. You know what I mean? Like stupid crap that normal people were reacting, right? Yeah. In her mind, it was, he was abusing her because he, you know what I mean?
01:34:58
Speaker
He was drunk and she literally created a story in her mind that she thought was true. And for somebody to be in the mental health field leads me to believe one thing, you will never understand the power of the human mind ever.
01:35:24
Speaker
This is somebody who gave her life, who was straight, a freaking genius, smart kind of woman, who did nothing but study the brain and still couldn't control her own. And it's because you never will. Okay, sorry guys, that was really serious and it got really silent. But what I'm saying is, I just don't think there's ever going to be a final firm reason for people's thoughts, for what they're capable of and for what they are willing to act upon
01:35:56
Speaker
Sorry, all I can think of is someone should've given her a Snickers card. No, it would've looked way too much like Pooh. She should've lost her mind, man. She does. Give her a Snickers card. A brown paper bag, guys. Game over. I'm disappointed. Somebody call the Pooh police. They're gonna come. They're gonna get you. You're in timeout in South America with your Pooh. Pooh's go.
01:36:30
Speaker
I am a 36 year old woman and it's funny. Okay. Because who gets pissed off about a bag of poo? Okay. You know, when I was in high school, I'd have handed it right back to him. I'd have left it on his porch. No, it's not fun. When I was in high school, I liked this guy and we were best friends for several years. You liked the sky or you liked this guy? I liked the guy. Thank you. He was my best friend and he was, you know,
01:36:54
Speaker
a piece of crap. But that's besides the point. One time I walked out to church on Sunday morning and I had a gift bag on my car from him. And I was really excited guys. And when I stuck my hand in it,
01:37:09
Speaker
It was cow poop. You didn't look first. No, I just reached my hand in to get the package and it was cow poop because all the college guys thought it would be really freaking funny. And then, then fast forward to like four months later, my brothers didn't know it was cow poop. So they shat in a gift bag and put it on my car. I don't know which of my brothers did it. So I received two bags of poop.
01:37:34
Speaker
before with no provocation whatsoever, besides I was a stupid teenage girl. And I didn't go crazy. We don't know what's in the box, what's in the box, right? It's poo. I already told you no more poo. But who hasn't gotten a bag of poo as my boy? I've never received a poo. Well, I don't want to say that now, because I feel like you're going to. You know who did the cow poo bag? You know whose genius idea that was? Please tell me it was my brother. Drew? What a butthole. That's so Drew.
01:38:05
Speaker
And now he works for my brother and probably the one that's shat in the bag. Life is filled with crap. Some more than others.
01:38:20
Speaker
At this point, we are way over an hour and 39 minutes. So we are going to go ahead and hope you have a fantastic week. We probably won't edit too much of this just to drop it and y'all just have fun with it. Yeah, we were done editing. Yeah, I try to edit out with some bad words. But uh,
01:38:41
Speaker
Be more of a just eight-hole? Anyways, we hope you guys have a great week. And guys, I want you to stop and think. The next time you go and get your mail and your neighbor's dog is barking or... Just smile and nod and walk off. You're sitting on your back porch and they flip on their floodlights. I just want you to remember one thing.
01:39:03
Speaker
You don't know what anybody's breaking point is. You don't know what they're crazy is. So just stay out. Figure out your boiling point guys and move from there because breaking point or boiling point, you got to pick one dude. I like them. I'm saying people can get shot in traffic bay. You got to pick your battles people. All right. Well, go ahead and go over to our Instagram at twisted crime underscore pod.
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We'd love to hear from you. Any tips, tricks, stories? I said tips. Get your mind out of the gutter. Wasn't in the gutter. It sounded like said tips. Anyone send an email saying whether or not you said tips or tips. I need to know. I'm done with you. All right. Next week, tune in to see who the new co-host will be. And we'll see you then. Have a great week. Not Heather.