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Nice Boys (Who like Death Match Wrestling & Death Match Wrestling)
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This week Heeter and Garrett spent the weekend at death matches in Indiana! ICW, No Peace Underground, AWR, and Paradigm!
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Deathmatch Weekend Highlights
00:00:35
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermine Presents. Nice boys who watch, or who like deathmatch wrestling and deathmatch wrestling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Last time it was Fast 9 this time, deathmatch, because I think it's kind of consumed both of our lives.
00:00:53
Speaker
for the last 14 days. It felt I mean we both were in Indianapolis for what are we just calling it deathmatch weekend? Yeah I mean absolutely because there the amount of money that was spent on light tubes this weekend would be like I feel like a solid house payment for most people.
00:01:19
Speaker
I think great question. Do they go around and collect those from buildings or are they actually going to like Home Depot and buying new ones and both? Listen, I just show up to the shows and I just get them busted over me and I bust them over other people. I didn't I don't ask enough questions. You know what? I do believe in recycling and I'm going to start pushing for us to recycle like tombs. I'll get.
00:01:44
Speaker
I need my deathmatch companies to not just be red, but also green. Yeah, that's right. I'll get ahold of some holiday ends and say, hey, all those light tubes you thought about throwing away, as long as they're not the skinny ones, those are mine now.
Violence and Spectacle at Wrestling Shows
00:02:03
Speaker
We saw so much. ICW, AWR, no peace. Paradigm.
00:02:13
Speaker
Man, Paradigm worked as a great palate cleanser from all the fucking violence I watched. I felt like I lived a Rob Zombie movie this weekend, and I know to some that's an insult. I like Rob Zombie movies, so I was happy to be thrown into that world.
00:02:32
Speaker
but fuck did I witness some shit, yeah? The amount of people's blood you got to visually see is more than I feel like some ER nurses. Like there is so many, yeah, there has to be a blood drive out there that's just so sad that we're just wasting it all.
00:02:58
Speaker
The Red Cross is very angry at deathmatch. I got some on my hands. I got it on my chair. I got it. You know, I got it was a good weekend of being near other people's blood.
00:03:11
Speaker
Yeah, it was. It was. Man. I'm trying to think what the craziest thing I saw. Because AWR, I don't want to say what they did was reckless, but it's death match wrestling. So I guess it is. I saw
00:03:29
Speaker
for the first time, Mickey Knuckles. I was not familiar with Mickey Knuckles before this weekend. I saw her wrestle like six times. She took, so the most memorable gusset plate spot I have seen,
00:03:44
Speaker
ever maybe. Did you hear about it? No. She, I'm trying to remember who she was wrestling. I don't remember if it was Dale Patrick or who it was, but they took a gusset plate and smacked that right into her breasts. It was sticking out. It was bleeding while this was happening. Like after she pulled it out the rest of the weekend, you could see the little dots from where it was. Mickey Knuckles is a badass. I am afraid of her.
00:04:12
Speaker
Yeah, that was my feeling once I walked away from this weekend is, making knuckles might be the toughest motherfucker in this room. Do you know how long she's been doing this? I know that she was around back in the old IWA days. It was like her tank.
00:04:36
Speaker
Uh, John Wayne, it was all those guys for IWA Mid South, uh, all those people, I'm sorry, all those people for IWA Mid South. So she's been around a while. Um, but she is absolutely like, she reminds me and not to make the comparison woman to woman, but
00:04:55
Speaker
Also know that bull. Nakano is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time. She reminds me of like deathmatch bull. Nakano like she's not afraid to get in there and mix it up. She's not afraid to fucking throw her strikes in. I cannot
Unpredictable Lineups and Performer Highlights
00:05:14
Speaker
wait. I cannot wait to see more Mickey Knuckles.
00:05:18
Speaker
And after this weekend I feel like we're going to. She got big spots. And plus wasn't she getting added in? Because this entire weekend was the epitome of card subject to change. I don't think I went to one show where everybody that was supposed to be there made it.
00:05:36
Speaker
But I got to see some motherfuckers step up and get some good spots out of it. Yep. I a good one was Cole Radrick. Cole Radrick stepped in for JJ Escobar. Now we didn't get to see somebody's dick be weeded and on fire. But Cole Radrick did everything in his fucking
00:05:57
Speaker
realm of possibility to bring JJ Escobar energy. If you go on IW TV and watch the deal, is it deal Patrick? Yes. With an S. Yes. Or no, Patrick's deal. Patrick's. Yeah. Plural. Plural. Okay. Dale Patrick's comes out and he says that JJ, I believe he said JJ Allen. I don't know. Yeah. I know it's JJ Allen, JJ Escobar. Yeah.
00:06:24
Speaker
I spent so much time before this show talking about how excited I was to see a man light his dick on fire. Cause that's something I ain't ever seen in live. And when they announced live that he wasn't going to be there.
00:06:41
Speaker
If you go back and watch that match and catch me in the crowd, I have the biggest sour puss on my face. That whole match. Just Mr. Sombre sitting in the roof. Arms crossed. Love Cole Radrick. Excited. Any other circumstance, so happy to see him in a death match. But I was like, you better sit his fucking dick on fire.
00:07:03
Speaker
Man, yeah, I mean, but that's that's the thing is, is that I feel like everybody who ended up this weekend with a spot said, OK, I have something I have to prove now. Like, look, look, you should have just had me booked from the get go. And that's really awesome to see, especially with deathmatch, because so many people like.
00:07:27
Speaker
qualify for those spots specifically that weekend and for some people to step in that like aren't traditional deathmatch guys or girls like that was really cool to see like Cole as an example Cole has done it and I mean with everything else that Cole does I'm surprised he doesn't do it more considering you know he's a demolition derby driver but
00:07:54
Speaker
It was really cool to see him step up and then him and Dale not only did he step up with Dale Patrick's who is. Fantastic but. But then to have the caliber of match that they had. Was just great to see and I'm just I'm I'm.
00:08:14
Speaker
I'm proud of everybody this weekend. It sounds weird to say, well, I'm proud of almost everybody this weekend. I'm proud of 99.9% of the people this weekend. 99% of the people that took tubes this weekend are outstanding citizens. Yes, yes. Absolutely. You are absolutely right, because there is one that doesn't qualify for those things. But do you want to get into this now, or do you want to hold off on it?
00:08:44
Speaker
I could it's so it's been the topic of conversation for me for a few days now. Well, let's get over it. Let's let's keep talking about shows that we liked and we'll get into that. Hey, to be continued. Stay tuned in the episode. We will get there. So from a. It all kind of blends together.
00:09:05
Speaker
um we both kind of already have talked about that it all kind of blends together this whole weekend like you can't remember when you consume that much and see the same people so many times right like like i sometimes struggle with what was icw no holds bar night one versus what was icw no holds bar night two versus what was awr versus what no piece was you know it's just
00:09:30
Speaker
It all just kind of feels like there was just blood and
Crowd Dynamics and Unique Experiences
00:09:34
Speaker
violence in the ring for a 72 hour period where none of us. Like like the names and the faces changed, but the violence stayed the same is how it felt like. But some of the standouts, what were some of your standouts?
00:09:55
Speaker
Well, I know we talked about this, but my match of the weekend was Justin Kyle versus John Wayne Murdock. I had never seen Justin Kyle until that weekend, so that was...
00:10:10
Speaker
Getting to see a guy who was built like Brock Lesnar do a death match was something I didn't know I needed in my life. And just seeing him bleed, and I had heard rumblings in the crowd that it wasn't something he was wanting to do.
00:10:29
Speaker
So going in there and like doing what he did in a situation that he didn't want to be in at all, he looked like he belonged. Yeah. Well, what I would say is that all that talk about like him not wanting to really do it, like I can say this that I couldn't tell because it seemed like he threw caution into the wind and was like, we fucking doing this. It was fucking amazing. It was that match was fucking great.
00:10:58
Speaker
Like he met John Wayne's energy in a death match. Do you under like, like people don't understand how hard that is. Like he, John Wayne Murdoch will overtake you in a death match. It is his.
00:11:16
Speaker
duty to overtake you in a death match. And Justin Kyle said, fuck that. You're going to break tubes over me and I'm just going to be the Hulk, but not green. That was what that was his like, and I'm going to eat. I'm going to eat all these fucking tubes and I'm you going to pick me the fuck up because I'm giant. I'm a fucking giant man. And you're going to put me through this goddamn flaming door.
00:11:42
Speaker
I mean, that shit happened. Not only did those things happen, at one point he was on the ground in front of me.
00:11:52
Speaker
Murdoch gets on top of him, pulls out a steak knife, shoves it up his asshole, like little stabs right in the butthole, which I haven't seen that either. This weekend, there were a lot of wrestlers coming out with blades. Yeah, absolutely. Everybody was packing. Everybody had knives on them, they were ready to fucking rumble, like we were the fucking...
00:12:15
Speaker
The Jets and the fucking the Sharks West Side Story. Everybody getting stabbed. It's getting out of hand. Eventually, there's going to be a guy coming to the ring with an AR 15. He's like, it's my right to have this. Just an alt right deathmatch wrestler. Oh, man. Let's hope it doesn't get to that point.
00:12:38
Speaker
After this weekend, I don't know where it's going. Like, how do they top some of the shit I saw? Like, we talked about Kira. Kira had, he was the star of the entire weekend. He was in every single show?
00:12:55
Speaker
Um, I think so minus, um, the second paradigm show, but he may have been even been in that. I don't think he was though. The first one was him versus Cole. Yes. In the, in the UWFI. Yeah. The second show. I don't think he was on. I don't want. He was there in spirit. He was there in spirit. Well, I mean, like, like you said, he was the absolute
00:13:23
Speaker
He was one of the MVPs. I would say that the rejects, meaning John Wayne Murdoch, Reed Bentley, Akira, and Satu Jin were the MVPs of this last weekend because all of them were on almost every show. Like doing death match on almost every show.
00:13:48
Speaker
And it's just, I mean, they're just fucking built different. Like, like as a 36 year old, who's getting into a one death match. And I'm like, whoo.
00:14:01
Speaker
Man, you know what? I'm going to take the next weekend off, which isn't true because obviously I had a deathmatch. But anyway, I just they were built different. Those guys clean up and they go, OK, what's next? Who do I got to fight next? Main event of no peace. We have John Wayne Murdoch versus Masada. John Wayne Murdoch appears to get his fucking wrist cut.
00:14:31
Speaker
keeps going, gets the skewers drilled into his head harder than I've ever seen. That elbow that Masada gave to put those in, they just, they were stopped. They were in there. He looked like he had a fucking tree growing out of his head. That's how in there they were. And then the amount of blood that was coming out of his head.
00:15:00
Speaker
Man, what a fucking great person to do that for everyone's entertainment. I feel like I owe him something. I don't know what yet. Right, right. I don't think any of us know. What do you need, John Wayne? And he goes, I don't really need anything. And then you go, no, but listen, you've earned the right to ask something from all of us. Yes, give us your Amazon wish list. Do you need something?
00:15:31
Speaker
I'll buy you some new socks if that's what you want. And you mentioned a guy I didn't know was in the rejects until this weekend, Satu Jin. Yeah. Holy shit. So my favorite match.
00:15:47
Speaker
Was sad to verse tank of ICW night one just because they did it all. And like, of course, you I mean, I mean, you've talked about this. I have a very soft spot for tank like tank was my 13th match in wrestling and and he whooped the shit out of me. And I learned probably more in that match than I had
00:16:14
Speaker
up to that point. And so like getting to see Tank and Rev do their thing is amazing. Like because they're a perfect package. Tank has a manager
00:16:32
Speaker
who looks like King Diamond. And and comes out and talks shit on a microphone and and you know like you saw this weekend everybody's hyped to see Larry Legend. Everyone's hyped to see Larry Legend.
00:16:48
Speaker
But those people were just as hyped to see Reb talk his shit, and that was awesome. It was just really cool to see those two go after each other just because both of them do not care about what
Reflections and Future Wrestling Plans
00:17:01
Speaker
happens to their bodies, apparently. The pizza, the pizza, I don't know what those things are called, the pizza pan where they pull the pizzas out of the oven covered in gusset plates. The tanks smacked on tattoos back.
00:17:16
Speaker
Whoo! Watching that pull off, like the little bit of give that it had. They were in there. What the fuck are we doing? There were so many times this weekend that I was like, what am I doing? Why do I like this? Is this a crime? There's so many ways all of this could go wrong.
00:17:36
Speaker
There I mean there were a lot of things there were a lot of things in that in those shows that if happened just you know walking down the street you would be forced
00:17:52
Speaker
to call the police or you would be an accomplice. No if, ands, or buts, you would be an accomplice. They'd go, you watched that happen and you said nothing? Yeah, the cop comes in. So you watch this guy cut this guy's wrist and then skewer his head. And you just sat there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're under arrest now. Fuck!
00:18:20
Speaker
Real quick, I'm about to crack open. Heater brought over some of the new white claws. So this is a first for me. The surge. Extra alcohol. Blood orange. Let's do this.
00:18:35
Speaker
That's pretty good. Yeah. I think that's my review of every one. Yeah. You can definitely taste the extra alcohol, but that's, you know what? Not really a problem for me. Even if it is two 30 in the afternoon. Hey, listen, we go hard. I don't know.
00:18:54
Speaker
I like drinking in the afternoon. It's especially when like I've taken a half day at work, you know, like come over to record a podcast, have a have a drink, you know, whatever. What are they going to do? Fire me. I already told him I took a half day. You can't fire me from life.
00:19:14
Speaker
Okay, we had a very, like a very not normal weekend. What was the most normal thing you did this entire weekend? Is there a moment that you just had like a nice moment with your wife? Yeah, I mean, what I would say is that my wife and I stayed with a friend of ours that lives in Indianapolis, and Friday, because I wasn't wrestling,
00:19:42
Speaker
I we kind of just we got in like late late late Thursday night I think we got in like three and went to bed and got up at like
00:19:51
Speaker
eight o'clock because, you know, I'm 36 years old and my body doesn't let me realistically sleep past seven, but it gave me a little bit of leeway and gave me an extra hour. And so we did that and got up. And since I knew I wasn't wrestling, we just kind of, uh, we bummed around our friend's house and had a couple drinks in the morning, you know, some mimosas and.
00:20:15
Speaker
It was setting around ate some breakfast. It was a good time. We had a really good time doing that and then ran to a Mexican restaurant and had, you know, crappy strip mall Mexican food, which is my favorite kind of Mexican food. And it was that was the most normal thing I did all weekend was was that
00:20:38
Speaker
But, you know, the rest of the weekend was just go, go, go, go, go. We got to get here. We got to get there. And, you know, there was always that possibility that I was going to have to wrestle on Friday. It didn't happen. But but, you know, I'm here.
00:20:55
Speaker
and i'm willing to work on card subject to change card subject to change like we said there were there were cancellations everywhere all over these cards and so you know there is always that opportunity to to pull me in which i mean i mean i know that
00:21:11
Speaker
I'm getting there. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, uh, what I want to be is the first name on that list. Okay. We know he's coming in for this, that, or the other. Well, let's get him in on this. But you know what? It didn't happen this time. That's okay. Uh, I got to have a very nice evening with my wife watching deathmatch wrestling. Um, and just kind of.
00:21:33
Speaker
having a good time we had a really I had a really great time Friday night at the ICW show it was like I got to watch Brett wrestle Vincent nothing and they beat the hell out of each other and it was awesome and I
00:21:51
Speaker
Brett hit, Brett hit Vincent nothing with a street justice that looked like something out of a video game. That's the only way I can describe it because of the the quickness in which he got him up. And it was like Brett jumped and hit it. It was that street justice is the prettiest thing I've seen in a long, long time.
00:22:13
Speaker
as far as street justices go, because normally they're real grimy and and just stuffy. And this one was not this one was felt like it felt like the finish of a Dragon Ball Z like move. That's the only way I can describe it. That was a really fun match.
00:22:33
Speaker
I guess we can, like Neil Diamond Cutter had a whole bunch of great matches this weekend, sang Sweet Caroline so many goddamn times. I know and how great is that song? How great is that for a wrestler to walk out to?
00:22:51
Speaker
I never got tired of singing it. I think I saw him wrestle, because he was in the tournament, so he wrestled multiple times in the tournament. He wrestled and everything, and he comes out with the same energy with that song every single time. And it's awesome. I think it was him versus the Kirk's. Well, it was him versus Brandon Kirk, but of course, she gets involved every single time.
00:23:18
Speaker
Brandon Kirk got so bloody during that match, and he didn't go wash it off after, he was just hanging out at the merch tent, or merch stand, or whatever. And have you seen Mulholland Drive, the David Lynch movie? It's been a while, but yes, I have seen it.
00:23:35
Speaker
Towards the beginning of that movie, there's a filthy hobo that just pops out of nowhere. Scares the absolute shit out of me. That is what Brandon Kirk looked like the rest of the night. You know, it's wild about that. The next night on Saturday, he got bloody and he looked the exact same way for the rest of the evening.
00:23:57
Speaker
Like he's just got the perfect bleach blonde hair to just get that really good hair color He is such a fucking good deathmatch heel I know he like like because you would think okay This might be a little inside baseball and that's fine. Like this. I'll go this inside baseball
00:24:20
Speaker
You would think like a good deathmatch heal will be somebody who doesn't want to do the spots He's such a good deathmatch heal that he does the spots and you're still Begging you you're begged for him to get more like like he took the thumb up the ass from from From Neil Diamond
00:24:41
Speaker
him and uh oh I cannot what is what does wife what is her name uh it's not brandy is it brandy it can't be brandy anyway his wife I I feel like it mrs kirk yeah mrs kirk um they both took the thumb up the ass and then he goes to hit the uh the double the double cutter on them onto the pane of glass
00:25:07
Speaker
and the pane of glass doesn't fucking break. Story of the weekend. Definitely the story of Friday night. I don't know where whoever went to pick up the panes of glass got them, but whoever sold them was like, no, you need these ones. These ones are.
00:25:25
Speaker
these ones won't break this is the kind of glass that if you're purchasing glass obviously you want it to be sturdy right right right yeah they didn't they they didn't ask what they they said what is the intention with this glass nobody asked that question that was selling the glass they said we want tempered and they said cool so that means you don't want it to break
00:25:44
Speaker
and and and and i swear to you every single pane of glass fought back like the thud sounded yeah yeah like unsanctioned and paradigm ran i think it was november of last year i i might have that wrong but they ran a double show a dual show a friday saturday
00:26:09
Speaker
and everybody was talking about the Indiana Doors. In fact, Monsanction put out a t-shirt that said it just was Unsanctioned Pro's label on the front and on the back it said fuck the Indiana, or it said it said Indiana Doors and then there was a tweet from Big Beef that said fuck them doors.
00:26:32
Speaker
on the shirt because none of the doors would break that night fuck that indiana glass apparently there was some some pretty uh sturdy doors as well though i know they put one out for tank men and that thing fucking splintered when he went through it was such just a heavy duty front door of
00:26:53
Speaker
That Justin Kyle, that Justin Kyle Tankman match on the first night. I was making jokes about those doors because those doors looked like they had seen two world wars. That's how old those doors look. They looked like they were like from about the 18th, 19th century.
00:27:15
Speaker
I was so excited to see Tankman. It was awesome. This was my first time getting to see him live. Yeah. And he was one of the MVPs of the pandemic for me. Yep. So that was that was really awesome to finally see him and to see the things that him and Justin Kyle did to each other because both of them like.
00:27:33
Speaker
both of them are you know their roots are in the Indianapolis area. Now granted Justin Kyle's from Detroit but but Justin Kyle's been around the Indianapolis area for a while doing stuff and so to see those two dudes get the stage that they got with ICW was just awesome because man if you would have told me hey um
00:27:59
Speaker
Justin Kyle's gonna Death Valley driver Calvin Tankman through an antique door for ICW. If you would have told me that a year and a half ago, and I thought you were fucking nuts, because I was like, I mean, I know that Justin Kyle is gonna be there, but why the fuck would Calvin, Calvin Tankman's at MLW. And then for those two to interact and to have the fucking match they had,
00:28:27
Speaker
Man, just two dudes beating a shit out of each other. I will never not be impressed when Justin Kyle does the over-the-top rope.
00:28:35
Speaker
like flying out of the ring doing the, I don't know what to call it the Roman reign. I'm sure people have flown over the top rope before Roman, but yeah, I mean that and his in like outside the ring into the ring spear through the ropes is also just like, you're like, it doesn't make sense that this man, the size of Brock Lesnar can do this. It just doesn't make fucking sense.
00:29:00
Speaker
And it's just in indie wrestling, it's so rare to see that type of wrestler at all. That guy just does not exist in indie wrestling. He has such a different look comparatively to everybody else, just strictly based on, oh, you're six foot seven and you weigh 300 pounds, but it's all fucking muscle. It's wild. He just...
00:29:28
Speaker
I'm so glad that he got to show he got to do the shit this weekend. And like, again, I can only say this so many times. Almost everyone minus one person. I'm so happy that everyone got what they got and did what they did because nobody disappointed this weekend.
00:29:49
Speaker
No, I like like of the people I'm talking about. No one disappointed like everybody came in and did the shit and did what they needed to do. And there was a real like there felt like a real camaraderie, not just amongst the wrestlers, but amongst the fans, amongst everybody there. It felt like everybody knew that they were here for something special. That's just my take on it. But it was really great. It was really fun.
00:30:18
Speaker
If I can just, you talked about the crowd for a second. Since I spent my whole time in the crowd, this is the first wrestling show I've ever been to that was BYOB. Which is awesome, right? Great concept for pro wrestling. People loved it. But just sitting, I've never been to a show where people are passing around like handles of whiskey.
00:30:50
Speaker
their responsibility pants on and said, I can get drunk, but I need to be a responsible drunk. And then you go, yeah, I can get drunk at fucking four o'clock in the afternoon. That's fine because I'm going to be here for the next fucking six hours watching wrestling. So it's good. Like, like I'll sober up by the time I go home.
00:31:03
Speaker
and you thought shit would get out of hand in the crowd. Everybody was very polite and respected.
00:31:12
Speaker
That was the great part. One man did not sober up the entire weekend. I wish I knew the guy's name so that we could find him on the internet and have a chat with him. But this guy, I think it was during the first AWR show, he was sitting there and he was clearly very, very fucked up sitting in the front row, looking at his hands and really mesmerized by the movement of them. When wrestlers would get near him, he would look very fearful.
00:31:42
Speaker
His friend came over next to us at one point and told us that he had just taken acid, molly, whippets. He had been drinking and he was smoking pot.
00:31:56
Speaker
man so this guy you can find him in the crowd on any of these shows and you have on like uh hawaiian lay i cannot wait to watch back all the shows to just play where's wallow with that guy but just seeing wrestlers fighting on top of him while people are screaming at him to get out of the way he's like nope he doesn't know that anyone's talking to him
00:32:19
Speaker
He was full locked. I like that he got to the parking lot, pulled out his fucking Hunter S. Thompson suitcase of drugs, and was just like, all right, time for violence. What's gonna pair well with this deathmatch wrestling?
00:32:40
Speaker
I think it's some molly and some acid. And just a whip it to round things out. Let's bring it down just a little bit. Oh, that guy ruled. Yeah. You know what? You know what?
00:32:53
Speaker
a fucking MVP move right there. Because he didn't even get out of pocket. He might have been out of pocket with himself, but he was not out of pocket with other people. He didn't bother anybody. No, no, he was just in his own fucking world, just tripping and going, there's deathmatch wrestling happening in front of me. This hand is weird.
00:33:19
Speaker
Oh, it's so funny that he paid for front row tickets to like every event and just stayed fucked up. Like I bet if you talk to that guy, he would, oh my God, oh my God. I am so happy, I just, no peace. This dude ended up sitting behind us. Shane Mercer gets the green shit spit in his eyes. By Sonic-o?
00:33:43
Speaker
Yes. And Shane Mercer's on the ground, has all this green shit all over him, and he motions to us like, can somebody give me some water? Or a beer, whatever. Well, he was trying to clean his eyes out. This dude comes over and hands him a PBR. And Shane Mercer, what the fuck is this? I'm trying to clean my eyes. Hands it back. This motherfucker comes back with his hands cucked.
00:34:11
Speaker
Filled with water, Shane Mercer's bent over and this guy is just lightly splashing water from his hands into Shane Mercer's eyes.
00:34:20
Speaker
and then bends down with both hands and gives him gentle eye massage. And Shane Mercer is still kind of blind and just like, what the fuck is happening right now? Shane Mercer's another one of those motherfuckers that like, if you're gonna come, you better come correct. And that dude did not come correct. Like, I don't want your nasty hand water on my face. Shane did nothing. Like, he just,
00:34:48
Speaker
honestly it seemed like he was thankful but just oh my god when that guy hears I need water instead of just bringing him the bottle pours it into cupped hands so that
00:35:03
Speaker
Oh, shit. Oh, man. That's so good. That's so fucking good. They're just the entire weekend was just filled with little moments like that. Like, let's see, like a guy sitting in front of me front row for the guy in front of me for ICW night one sandals front row wearing sandals. First of all, maybe I shouldn't say this.
00:35:27
Speaker
I don't like when dudes wear sandals. I'm not a big fan of feet in general, but there's something that's just like, put the fucking shoes on. Wait, was he wearing socks? No. What a fucking nightmare person. This guy, light tube gets broken, flips over the thing, stabs him right in the foot. There is so much blood all over the ground and he seems flabbergasted that it happened.
00:35:51
Speaker
You bought front row tickets at a death mat show and you wore sandals. Like, if there were ever a time to wear steel-toed boots, it's at the front row at a fucking death mat show. So yeah, I saw a lot of people in the crowd spill blood this weekend. That was nice. I like the glass in my face. Absolutely. You know, just that little bit of glass, it's like a 3D movie.
00:36:19
Speaker
Yeah, it's like going to see something in 4D. Yeah, it's a little more dangerous. There's no bubbles. I mean, fuck.
00:36:30
Speaker
Should have used bubbles. Listen, we can't. I'm not going to talk about it again. I'm still upset that they didn't use bubbles during the fucking outer space scene in Fast 9, but we've moved past it. I'm going to regain my composure and I'm not going to talk about it. It's yeah. If you're at a deathmatch show, the like I would say footwear. And
00:36:57
Speaker
I would say pants. It is not. I mean, it was hot out. Actually, it was a very comfortable weekend. It wasn't terrible. But yeah, deathmatch, you're in the front row. It did get hot in that building. There were times that when I was in the ring that it felt like it was about 102 degrees just standing there. And I just start like before my scramble match at Paradigm, I just started fucking sweating.
00:37:25
Speaker
And I was like, oh, I'm going to be stinky after this. I saw a lot of people online commenting about the smell of the venue and saying that it's not fair to say that wrestling fans are smelly. A lot of fan bases are smelly. Yeah. Yeah. Anytime you pack that many people into an area,
00:37:46
Speaker
Like you get enough one direction fans in a place that's going to be. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. But ours is mixed with blood. Yeah. Yeah. There was also there was a lot of iron in the in the old factory membranes. I think that doesn't help in like the longer blood is dried, the more it smells. And so by by Sunday night, whoo, that building had had a very distinct smell.
00:38:15
Speaker
I had to leave the doors open to let it air out for a couple days. Right. And then I saw where they were cleaning up after and I.
00:38:26
Speaker
You know, I would almost say with the amount of blood that was spilt between the last those three days, you almost need a hazmat crew. It's definitely not safe. I mean, my assumption is everybody had on their head and their gloves cleaning up. I wasn't there for a cleanup. I had already taken off to come back home. Do the wrestlers do the cleanup?
00:38:54
Speaker
for these shows. I know like wrestlers traditionally show up early to help put the ring together and whatnot. So normally, yes. I was...
00:39:07
Speaker
Very lucky in that I got to get out of there a little bit earlier, just because of the nature of how far I had to travel to go back home. Now, granted, it was only four hours, but I did have to get home because I had to work first thing the next morning. And that's a whole nother thing, like working, getting home at about four a.m. and then turning up in a couple hours, getting up in like three hours and
00:39:36
Speaker
going into work and sitting at a desk and they go, oh, you're wearing a hat today. I certainly am. Did you did you leave this weekend with any new scars? I don't know that I left with any new scars. There is a possibility that I opened one up from the previous weekend, which it's fine. Like that's that's it's going to happen. I got.
00:40:02
Speaker
like I'll tell you the thing that honestly that was like because it was unexpected. So probably hurt the most is when I was in that scramble for paradigm, I took a bump to the outside and I wasn't thinking about. The fact that there had been something like 62 goddamn death matches before my match. And so I didn't think about the amount of
00:40:31
Speaker
broken glass that was just around the ring. And so I took a I took a fucking solid fucking like solid dump out of the ring onto fucking glass. And I was just like, oh, oh, yeah, there's glass everywhere. That's a familiar feeling. Right. That's not what I expected.
00:40:53
Speaker
But I felt that before. I can confirm from just watching that a lot of the paradigm wrestlers experienced that.
00:41:02
Speaker
It's like we all forgot, we all forgot that there had just been several death matches before us. It was just, it's weird to watch a wrestling show where so many of the wrestlers only have bloody hands. Yeah. From taking dives to the outside. Right. That paradigm show was a lot of fun. Absolutely. I had a lot, that was really good. Was that the one?
00:41:28
Speaker
No shit. I'm thinking of a no-piece, Matt. I'm getting things mixed up. But the, fuck, you told me his name. This was my first time seeing him. The wrestler that's sponsored by Natty Light. Oh, BP4. Bradley Prescott the fourth. What a fucking delight. Yeah. Super fun. Super fun. It wasn't all death matches this weekend. I saw a couple good comedy matches. That, and then also at no-piece, Ricky Shane Page's match.
00:41:58
Speaker
Did you get a chance to catch any of that one? Watch any of it, no. Holy shit. So it's OVE versus 4-4-0. Yeah. Well, actually it's Ricky Shame Page and Vincent Nothing. Vincent Nothing. And it starts out with a, which Christ brother is it, Jake? It is Jake, yes. Jake.
00:42:21
Speaker
Yes, yes, it's Jake, it's Jake, it's Jake. Because the other one is redacted. Oh, no. Yeah, okay. We won't try that. But Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake. It's RSP and Jake Christ in the ring, and they're both doing the thing where it's like, make him get back, make him get back. They both rolled out of the ring and powdered at the same time.
00:42:43
Speaker
Love it. Love it. And then it got to the point where he's like, well, you tell him to get back. You tell him to get back. And then they were going across the entire arena. It's like, OK, you can come in now. I think Jake Christ actually climbed to the top row, very backside of the arena. Just them bickering back and forth and hearing RSP at one point say, I don't know if you heard. I'm a good guy now.
00:43:05
Speaker
Um, yeah, I, I mean, here's what I'll say is, is that there were very few people who use the space. Like they, a lot of people use the ring, but like,
00:43:18
Speaker
I can speak for myself. Oh, you went everywhere. I brawled all over that motherfucker. Almost immediately you disappeared and we just keep looking at different doorways. It's like a fucking episode of Frasier with like people going back and forth. It was really, really, uh, yeah, that he, he, he chose to hit me or pie face me of all the people in that scramble. He went after
00:43:42
Speaker
the biggest person in that scramble, which was a weird choice to make. Especially considering the intensity that you came out with. Like, you scared my friend.
00:43:55
Speaker
Well, you know what? I'm a nice boy, but the moment that music hits, it's different. Like, when it's on, it's on. That's what I told somebody on Twitter said, like, when Hardway Heater says he does things the hard way, he means fist bumps and shoulder bumps as well when he's coming out to the ring. And I said, when it's on, it's on. Like, I'm gonna full blown fist. I'm gonna Sid Vicious.
00:44:21
Speaker
fist bump you I'm putting all of it into it you getting all my power but yeah yeah I mean it was a really like I really like that that place anyway like this like the shape of it I just really like that Marion County fairgrounds but yeah the moment that he okay fine I'll chase you all over this arena if that's what you need me to do yeah it was really a
00:44:49
Speaker
I think you need that because I think that if you don't have that regular wrestling or just more standard, less death matchy stuff.
00:45:03
Speaker
to lead into the next day of more death match, I think you have to have that palate cleanser. Because imagine if that paradigm show had also been death match. If I exhausted Saturday. If I exhausted Saturday. If I exhausted Saturday. If I exhausted Saturday. If I exhausted Saturday. If I exhausted Saturday. If I exhausted Saturday. If I exhausted Saturday. If I exhausted Saturday.
00:45:25
Speaker
Except that one, I don't know, that was a very pleasant, that was just a very pleasant wrestling show. Oh, also let me say this before we go any farther into this episode, BP4 very funny, but I will never miss an opportunity to punch a lost boy. I just need, listen, just in case you guys are listening, it doesn't change how I feel about you. I'll fucking hit you in the mouth.
00:45:45
Speaker
That probably goes for the majority of the people we talk about. You know what? You're right. Unless unless you're my people, I don't fuck with you. I mean, at some point, you're probably going to have to face off against a fellow KOBK member, right? I mean, yeah, I mean, you fought Luther plenty of time. I fought Luther plenty of times. I fought Brett a couple of times.
00:46:08
Speaker
I fought, I haven't fought a, oh, I fought a Kira once. Really? I fought a Kira once for a UWFI match. Um, um, but that's it. That's like, that's as far as I've, like, that's all the KOBK members I've fought. Uh, but that's, you know. Are you going to fight Mo's? I mean,
00:46:28
Speaker
No, no, most too wholesome. But yeah, it's it's been it was it was a wild fucking weekend. Like I know I keep coming back to that, but it really, really was like it just felt like. It it felt it felt special to me. It felt special because.
00:46:55
Speaker
We've kind of been shouting from the rooftops, like as a person who lives in Nashville, Tennessee, but is originally from Indiana. It kind of felt like we've been shouting from the rooftops that Indiana just brings a different energy. Now, granted, a lot of people traveled for the show.
00:47:13
Speaker
But the moment you're in that Marion County fairgrounds, you're all the way the fuck in. And that's how that it felt from like the crowd. That's what I felt like I even got from the crowd and like I'm relatively unknown, comparative to a lot of the guys that were there. And they and I still felt like the crowd gave me their all. Oh, they saw me.
00:47:32
Speaker
I would say the matches you came out and you got some of the loudest cheers. Yeah, I mean, which is cool. But it was just like I just feel like that crowd gives gives it there. I felt like the crowd gave it there all and they were excited to see everything.
00:47:48
Speaker
which makes the wrestling better. It was just I don't know there. I'm trying to think of other things that I really like. I was really excited to see. I mean, everything Akira did because he's just he's just a psychopath and and and doesn't.
00:48:10
Speaker
doesn't understand the word quit in the way that I feel like the rest of us do and he just like even when he was fed the fuck up and was just like I don't want to do anything ever again
00:48:25
Speaker
like he won the deathmatch tournament which we definitely have to describe what that match was okay you let's do it right okay i've never seen anything like this so akira mickey knuckles dale patricks and who was the fourth i'm sorry to the fourth person hold on it was it's right there i i can see them i can see them
00:48:57
Speaker
who's in the ring with them it was the guy that comes out with the two swords or like the two that's mickey because of the two battle no shit there is another guy that comes out like a shango takagi mask with like two machetes oh shit no i have no idea hold on a minute hold the fuck on who that's uh...
00:49:26
Speaker
I don't know. I can't remember. But anyway. Apologies. Yeah. It was an other guy. Yeah. Apologies. But no, they come out. They pull off the canvas. They pull off the pads, expose the boards. Come out with buckets. Yep. Of broken glass. Yep. And just start scattering it around. Like completely cover this goddamn thing.
00:49:49
Speaker
yeah then come out and cover three sides of the ring and light tubes and just seen Akira's face when he got in the ring like I don't know if he had actually seen the ring yet yeah until he actually got out there and there was just a look on his face like
00:50:06
Speaker
Fuck are we doing here? How did I end up here? Yeah You know how he ended up there by being a fucking badass that's how he ended up there and that's what he needs to recognize Earlier in the day on Sunday actually before I got to that show we went out to breakfast and as we were in a stoplight we saw Kira drive by and He looked like a man who had been through a lot of violence. Yep
00:50:34
Speaker
Well, that's why I will tell you this for our our match at no piece. The reason I carried him out on my shoulders is because I needed I need a visualization from everyone else in that crowd of how much he had worked that fucking weekend like like motherfucker hop on my back because you've done enough like it was like I couldn't be more proud of that dude.
00:50:57
Speaker
Like he he might have been fucking over it and he might have been fucking tired and sore. And I'm sure he's still feeling it today. But I couldn't be more proud of that dude. He he fucking busted his ass all weekend doing entertain everybody. And and that's awesome. He won over everyone. Yep. I it was so weird. There were children at the AWR show with small children.
00:51:24
Speaker
And they loved Akira. They were all following him around with their cell phones, his glasses exploding in their face, and they're trying to hand him weapons to use, which I don't know if normally you're supposed to do that, just leave him alone, but he was taking the weapons from the kids and using them. Akira's for everyone. Yeah, Akira is for the children. Yeah, it was a fucking...
00:52:06
Speaker
Yeah, I really enjoyed tagging with Akira because he had a tweet about it earlier this week and he said it was like the thing is is that he was talking about me and I could say the same thing about him is that he gives 100% every single time and he can kick your ass.
00:52:07
Speaker
I would like to see
00:52:25
Speaker
So that's, you know, that that feeling is mutual for me and Akira is is like, I know he's going to bring 100 percent. He knows I'm going to. And we both can kick your ass. So then we also come out to Kill Bill, the song from Kill Bill, which was also kind of fucking fun, like to get to come out to that song and just be like, bring that energy that nobody get to carry him out. It was so much fun. It was so much fun.
00:52:53
Speaker
Well, it sounds like we're on to your match. Yeah. From No Peace. Yeah. And it's impossible for me to not talk about this because it's too much fun. Absolutely. Go ahead. OK, so it was KOBK versus The Hollowed, which is Crew and Otis. First time seeing Crew live.
00:53:14
Speaker
Awesome, awesome. I definitely wanted, there's a few wrestlers that was my first time seeing live. He was one I wanted to shout out that he was just a lot of fun to watch all weekend. Really liked that guy.
00:53:26
Speaker
Um, and I see what you mean about like, you both had the beer built very similar. Yeah. We, I just want to let, listen, just somebody book it. Just me and fucking crew. Let us just throw hands at each other. Cause we, we got shit that we need to work out. And I think that we need to do it in a ring.
00:53:45
Speaker
want to see it. So you guys all come out and the next is the end. Who love these guys. Absolutely. Gotta say this first before everything. Gotcha. I am a fan of the end. They are one that I've enjoyed watching throughout the pandemic.
00:54:04
Speaker
I like the whole Huffin spray paint thing. You know, no one's doing that right now except that dude in the front row. Just for a little come down. Just yeah, you know, just put a little ether on a rag. But no, they Pero and Odinson come out. I'm gonna love Pero. Love bears. Just in general. Bears are the bear community I love. Yep. I fuck with the bear community too. Yeah. Bears all day.
00:54:34
Speaker
Bears all day. The Bears have always treated me right. Absolutely. Yeah. Odinson, as the match starts, comes like it's screaming in our face and I'm just like, fuck yeah, let's do this. Going back and watching, I noticed his in-ring work was a little sloppy.
00:54:54
Speaker
Is that the, I think that's how I would describe it. That would be accurate. You don't have to comment on any of this if you don't want. Uh, so you guys go through the match. Unfortunately, Pero gave you a pile driver. What, what move did he hit me with the pile driver and then got one to, uh, the ref got pulled.
00:55:19
Speaker
by the Holodes Riley. And then since the ref wasn't in there to count the three, he got me right the fuck back up and power bombed me. So, you know, he really set it in. That being said, I need a rematch of you and Pero.
00:55:40
Speaker
I would love that. That's something that, you know, that's on my bucket list of matches I wanna see live. But yeah, that match ends, some goons come out, some dudes in ski masks. They go fuck up.
00:55:55
Speaker
Odinson and Pero. Pero around the ring. And then Marcus Crane and Casanova Valentine come out. Absolutely. So excited to see Marcus Crane. Absolutely. He's back? Is he back? That's so fucking crazy. He's back. Again, this might be inside baseball. I don't know about wrestling yet.
00:56:19
Speaker
But it's just nice to have Marcus Crane back involved with wrestling in any facet that he can. I like him being in the room. Yeah, absolutely. Being back in the space. Just I got it. You got a huge pop out of me. I was not expecting Marcus Crane brings in energy that nobody else can bring. He brings the he brings Marcus Crane energy.
00:56:41
Speaker
though i didn't see he got a microphone to cut a promo and it was one of those moments where he just immediately he had a microphone and nothing to say and i think he even put on twitter that he's like i'm gonna take some uh some lessons yeah well yeah he and then i mean when he did speak it wasn't like when he did say because he said a few
00:57:05
Speaker
He said a few things, but like it's just so nice to have Marcus back in the ring. I'm so excited to have like to even have him around is so much fun.
00:57:17
Speaker
Yeah, he is a guy that like when I've gone to shows and he's around he's been really fun to talk to and He's a fucking wild card He's a goddamn wild man. I mean Go back and look at some of the like one of his last matches that I really remember seeing was him in GCW in Japan Getting the needles
00:57:39
Speaker
through both cheeks, super kicked in the face. Who the fuck else is doing that shit? Mark's crane. But then while that's happening, Odinson comes over to the guy to my left.
00:57:55
Speaker
and gets in his face, this all happened really fast. I wish I could see video of it, but as far as I can tell, all video was taken after this happened. And watching No Peace Today, it was happening while Marcus was talking, I think. So you can't really see. He fucking slapped the shit out of the guy next to me. Like slapped him so hard that he fell back into his seat. And then he came to me and he pulled his hand back to slap me
00:58:23
Speaker
And I don't like getting slapped very much, so I ducked. And as far as I can tell, what he did was punch me in the back of the head. It felt like it was either he punched or did like a whack-a-mole kind of bop. And this is the first time that a wrestler I enjoy has struck me.
00:58:46
Speaker
After this, he proceeds to fight no peace staff, the referees, he's screaming at commentary. He was screaming at a guy who was, after what he did to us, was like, if that motherfucker comes to me, I'm gonna fight, this guy was tiny. He still wanted to fight Odinson. Odinson, 6'4", 285 pounds according to his Twitter.
00:59:10
Speaker
He looks it. I believe him, he's a jacked man. Got Thor's hammer tattooed on his chest. Because that shows you how fucking tough this guy is. God damn. Just getting picked on by a dude with a Thor's hammer tattoo just seems so right. Like somewhere when he hit me a planet fitness alarm went off.
00:59:38
Speaker
It was one of those moments where you go, this makes sense. But he gets in an argument with this other guy, which somebody later told me was the dude who booked the venue. He's pushing everybody, he's yelling, and then eventually Pero comes out and is screaming at Odinson, and that is the last I see of Odinson. This is two matches into the fucking show. Yep, yep. Man, I don't even...
01:00:06
Speaker
you guys kind of an asshole. I will say, no hard feelings towards No Peace. No Peace was one of the companies that got me through the pandemic. I very much look forward to all their shows. The next show that's anywhere near me, I'm gonna be in the front row again. So not done with No Peace. But you know, I think I might be done with The End. I'm not done with Pero.
01:00:32
Speaker
But this would go the same with John Cena. So. Yes. Yes. If you get me, I'd. You'd also be upset. I would be a little mad. Yeah. So let me speak to my side of things. What I can say is, is I would like to. And this might be a little kayfabe breaking whatever. I would like to thank. Otis. And crew.
01:01:01
Speaker
and Akira and Pero for all being respectful and professional. I would like to thank Pero for taking everything that happened in stride for protecting me at the end because the end wasn't supposed to be what it was. It got changed because of the things that we we noticed in the in the match.
01:01:32
Speaker
So I would like to thank all of them so very much for being professional and taking care. We all took care of each other and had and we had a good time with each other.
01:01:46
Speaker
Um, and that is the, that is where my thank you stop. Um, also the no peace staff, let me say this also no peace staff, uh, uh, because, uh, they, they were also very professional after all of it happened, uh, with everybody in the ring that was in the ring.
01:02:08
Speaker
but that is where the thank yous stop. As a participant in that match, even though I had no, like, you know, as I had no control over what he's going to do, I would like to apologize to you because I think that that is, it's irresponsible. It was negligent and it was unnecessary.
01:02:34
Speaker
And what I can say is, is I look forward to working Pero. Or crew or Otis or fuck it, even Akira. Any time in the future, any fucking time, I will absolutely work those dudes. But there is one person in that fucking match that I will never step up in the ring with again. And he made that choice. That was his fuck up. That wasn't that wasn't nobody fucking nobody forced him to do that.
01:03:03
Speaker
This is me saying it. This isn't anything you said. I will say, when he got in my face, my friend that was next to me at the beginning of the match leaned over and was like, he smells like booze.
01:03:17
Speaker
Yeah, it was we were in the match when the recognition happened and that is that that's all that's all I can that's all that I'd really know is that after that then we started we started trying to plan different things and tried to do different things because of it.
01:03:39
Speaker
And I know that that's like chattering the kayfabe, but I think that there's a levity to this moment that I think needs to be brought up. And that's that I felt taken care of by the people that were in the ring. I was in the ring with. And like I said, I just wish that that would have carried over to everyone in the fucking crowd.
01:04:10
Speaker
But, you know, we live, we learn. I know that you have talked to No Peace. Yeah. And I have had conversations with No Peace as well. So. Very much on board, very much still willing to do business with that company, just not willing to do business with that one person.
01:04:30
Speaker
This was a little bit of a bummer. I guess this is me kind of joking. You're very serious about it. I still feel weird about it because I was a fan of the dude. But I did tweet at No Peace and said, hey, since he hit me, can I choose his next opponent? Because I just wanted fucking Schlack to beat the shit out of him. Or Justin Kyle. Or John Wayne Murdoch. Absolutely.
01:04:57
Speaker
a little something for me. But yeah, No Peace was very cool about it. They were very apologetic. It's not their fault at all. Like I said, no hard feelings at all. This doesn't scare me away from wrestling shows. I don't know how hard he hit me, or if a video came out. It was just one of those things in the moment that was just like, what the fuck? Right, but regardless of all of that, it should have never fucking happened.
01:05:27
Speaker
But anyway, let's let's move on beyond fucking now that we've gotten that story out of the way, which was, you know, like you got a unique Indianapolis experience. I'll never forget this. Let's let's talk about something positive. What was the most normal thing you did in Indiana? Oh, that's a pretty good brunch. Where'd you go to brunch?
01:05:51
Speaker
I went to it's weird shouting them out because the waiter was kind of mean. Okay. There was some pancake house. Oh, okay. Shoot. Is it the one that is it the one that Kelly referred you to? Yeah. It's like a street name. It's a.
01:06:10
Speaker
I cannot remember. It's like, it's not St. John's Street pancake house, but it's something like that. It was very good breakfast. It was good breakfast. I just needed something normal before my only option was chicken tenders.
01:06:28
Speaker
They had, I saw there was probably, there had to have been a hundred pounds of chicken tenders eating that weekend because I saw everybody with those fucking chicken tenders. Now I don't mind shit talking the fairground food here. Go. Because they have nothing to do with any of the wrestling promotions. I go up and I order tendies and fries. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One tendie. Seven bucks for one tendie. That's fucking horseshit. That's ridiculous. But I'm not going to, I don't know.
01:06:57
Speaker
You already have the food. I already have the thing. There's wrestling going on. And I know Derek and I used to do this quite a bit as well. Another thing with the fairgrounds. I do have to review the bathrooms.
01:07:11
Speaker
The bathrooms were just about as clean as the fucking mat. Yeah, those bathrooms were a little rough. Day one, no soap, no paper towels, no working toilets. Yep. We got to the venue and I immediately had to pee and I went in there and peed. And the only thing I could think was is like, well, I guess I'm drying my hands on my pants.
01:07:39
Speaker
And even if there was paper towel, my fear was is that this building's old enough to where it had like the rolling, you know, like the old style, it had the old style, like cloth, like in an auto mechanic. And I was like, well, I'm going to draw my hands on my pants. And I did exactly that.
01:08:00
Speaker
Also, let me say this because this is another like just cool This is another cool little moment that happened this weekend I was standing next to most and we had just watched I think it was cutter Kirk and the next match was sad to tank and before Ron Bass said I'm running to the gas station you need anything and
01:08:28
Speaker
And like me and Ron are fucking, you know, like I'll fight him anytime I fucking see him. But but another delightful person that I had never seen before. But but Ron Bass was like, you need anything. And I was like, I wouldn't throw a beer out of bed. And and he said, I got you.
01:08:49
Speaker
So they ran to the gas station and I was like, oh man, I really don't want him to miss tank in Neil Diamond Cutter because he's also a giant tank fan or Neil Diamond Cutter. I'm sorry, Satu Jin. Um, but he's also a big tank fan. And of course we all love Satu.
01:09:05
Speaker
but but tank just on this comeback run and Satu's music hit Satu walks out and he gets announced you know all that and the like and I was like oh man Ron's gonna miss
01:09:23
Speaker
It's Tank, and I'm talking to Mo's. And it was like he heard me, and he said, no, I'm not. And he walked in, and as Tank's music hit, he handed me the beer, and we both cracked him as Tank was walking out. And it just felt perfect. So that's one of those other moments that I was just like, we couldn't have planned this better, because I get a beer to watch Tank beat the shit out of somebody.
01:09:52
Speaker
it man what a great moment like that was one of my other favorite moments of the weekend this is just like the timing on all of that that was really fun um but yeah a unique experience this weekend uh another unique experience i finally got to meet schlack
01:10:10
Speaker
Yeah, I had never met. Did you talk to? I did talk. Oh, yeah. I went. And honestly, I just wanted a picture with him to send to my wife because she loves slack. Yeah, I know. Who does? Because, hey, I would like to think that we did that. Yeah, we definitely did that. I have a now a sticker that says no God only slack that she's going to put on her bumper of her car.
01:10:31
Speaker
but I bought a shirt from him. I don't even know if I can, am I allowed to give Slack's email address away? Cause I paid with PayPal. I may have to edit this, but I still want to say it out loud. Okay, go. So I said, do you have any cash apps or anything? I said, I have PayPal. And I was like, okay, well, what's your email address? Oh yeah. It's a useless drunkard at gmail.com.
01:10:59
Speaker
I fuckin' love it. I fuckin' love it. Hop on PayPal, send Schlack some money. You damn right. Send Schlack all your money.
01:11:07
Speaker
Ah, he deserves all your money. Look at him. Just look at him. Do you realize how many chicken breasts he has to eat to maintain that size? He eats those chicken breasts for us, God damn it, and we need to pay him back. It was such a fun weekend. Did I hear that there's another deathmatch weekend coming up in like two weeks in Indianapolis? Is that where King of the Deathmatch is? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:11:34
Speaker
That would be August, wouldn't it? Yeah, it's coming up. Jesus. Yeah. And you're gonna see a lot of the same players that you saw this weekend, but now it's for King of the Deathmatch, which is just like everybody wants that. Everybody in that tournament wants to be King of the Deathmatch.
01:12:03
Speaker
You get to be announced as King of the Deathmatch. That's huge. Everywhere. Like, I'm King of the Deathmatch 2021. Like, I mean, Kogar's Prince of the Deathmatch? Yeah. Last year, King was Eric Ryan? I believe so. That sounds right. Yeah, that sounds right.
01:12:21
Speaker
um man like like uh uh like tank's taking place in that um i know i keep bringing up tank but i'm just you look i'm real fucking hyped up about tank in his fucking in the resurgence of his career like i i want tank in a match so fucking bad
01:12:40
Speaker
like he's he is one of the like we've done it once and he beat the shit out of me and that was a year ago and what i can say is is i am not the same guy that i was a year ago and so let's see what the fuck we can do tank but what i will say is is that it has been it's just been fun to see him like just kind of like he was always in the name of people in the south
01:13:05
Speaker
now he's starting to get the names of people on the east coast he's like it's just like not that he wasn't before but it's just people are like oh yeah not only is tank wrestling again but tank can still fucking go and that's the cool part um but uh like tanks been in it um i mean there's there's a veritable who's who of deathmatch wrestling has been in the king of the deathmatch and so it's just man
01:13:36
Speaker
I don't know if I I I don't know how they're going to do it like like it's definitely going to be a most of the same crowd that was at the Marion County shows that's going to be at King of the Deathmatch and it's going to be awesome like y'all thought they went hard this weekend
01:14:01
Speaker
If they're gonna go harder at King of the Deathmatch, I don't know if I can handle being in the building. And neither can I ask that guy.
01:14:10
Speaker
Not at all, not at all. As a guy could barely handle the way he was dealing. That's why he focused on the hand. He was like, there's deathmatch, but also my hand's weird. And he went, I'm going to watch the hand for a bit. He always had a halftime show going on. Like the second that was over, just twiddled the fingers a little bit. That dude had built-in commercial breaks from the fucking deathmatch wrestling. He went, oh, it's getting too real. Here we are.
01:14:41
Speaker
I know we're coming to the end of the podcast. We've been going a little bit now. I'm trying to think of other names of people that I had never seen. Pondo kicked fucking ass this weekend. Fuck. Pondo had a bunch of matches. Yeah. Honestly, one of the bloodiest matches I saw the weekend was Pondo. So one of my other sleeper hits of that entire fucking weekend is Danny Akira for AWR. Like they had the death match in the tournament. Yeah. And it was fucking great. Like.
01:15:09
Speaker
Man, like I said, I'll keep saying it that I would put the group of guys that was at the ICW this weekend up against almost goddamn anybody and they're gonna fucking show out. It was fucking amazing. Also, one more little thing I gotta get in before we fucking end this episode.
01:15:34
Speaker
Hey, Hoodfoot, I see you doing death matches now, motherfucker. Bring your ass. I ain't done with you. That's it. All right. They're just, you know, motherfuckers in my world now. Let's do it. Let's fucking do it.
01:15:52
Speaker
Hoodfoot I have nothing against you much larger than me. You seem like a great guy. You were in a match for paradigm that it two o'clock in the morning made absolutely no sense to me from the rules. Oh that the Lost Boys verse. I can't remember the other name. The other team name.
01:16:12
Speaker
It was the one that had like a zombie guy. He came over to me and he had Myron Reed held back and he told Kelly to chop his chest. And Kelly said, I'm good, thanks. I love my wife so much. And then he said to me, he's like, chop him.
01:16:33
Speaker
I said, but I really like him. And I gave him the weakest fucking chop you've ever seen. So I hope that I hope that didn't make it to IWTV. And even if it did, fuck it. Another wrestler. Fuck, I wish I could remember her first name because there weren't a ton of female wrestlers this weekend, but I very much enjoyed her last name was Rec. Sawyer. Sawyer. Fucking Rec. Holy shit. Yeah. Holy shame.
01:17:01
Speaker
holy shit like she took some tubes from Neil Diamond cutter off the top rope that and then and then fucking took tubes to the small of her back yeah she ruled I need to see more of her so so Sawyer wreck has one of if not my favorite spot from well now my
01:17:24
Speaker
It was my favorite spot from the MV Young from the Fear the Gay Agenda No Peace show because she gets announced and she fucking comes flying out on stage and
01:17:39
Speaker
aggressively and recklessly throws a forearm at mv young and i was like immediate fan i'm an immediate fan of you because of how aggressive and reckless that that forearm was on mv young because holy shit she blasted the fuck out of him and it was awesome and i'm a big fan of tall ladies she's a very tall lady
01:18:05
Speaker
Love that. She's like the Elizabeth the Bicky of wrestling. If Elizabeth the Bicky did death matches, that's Sawyer Wreck. But yeah, she made a new fan this weekend, so I will be following her more closely now. Sawyer is that fucking good violence. I love fucking watching Sawyer fucking enact violence on a motherfucker.
01:18:28
Speaker
Do you have anything else? Do you have anything? Oh, I think every week I want to ask you, is it a deathmatch? Because I think last week we asked if the guy in the Waffle House spent 24 hours in a Waffle House with deathmatch. Coming up, I've got another weekend of wrestling. Gotcha. But it's all impact. Okay. So I have Saturday, Slammiversary.
01:18:50
Speaker
Sunday, TV taping for impact. Sunday, another TV taping for impact. Monday, two more TV tapings for impact. So I'm going to five impact shows in three days. Is it a death match?
01:19:07
Speaker
um um i would say that you are riding the cusp of it being one because you about to you about to inundate yourself with a lot of impact wrestling i have not been following impact so much so i'm gonna like know everything well here's what here's what i'll say is is that here uh the highlight uh should be and always will be
01:19:31
Speaker
joshua alexander and the fact that that man apparently can wrestle i don't know four and a half hours without getting tired that guy's really good he's fucking fantastic what's crazy is the first fucking time i saw him was at pwg and it was a it was his retirement match
01:19:51
Speaker
How many years ago was that? It was like 10 years ago now. Absolutely. You're absolutely fucking right. He's still going. First time I guess for. Yeah. First time I saw him was him and Eric Stevens for Black Label Pro. OK. And and my first thought and I will be honest and I was totally wrong on this. My first thought was is this motherfucker really afraid of cauliflower? You're wearing fucking headgear out here.
01:20:15
Speaker
And then I saw him and I was like, oh no, like he's fucking in for the shit. All right, here we go.
01:20:25
Speaker
So yeah, I mean, that's gonna be fun. I think it's, I think mentally. It's a mental death match. Yeah, it's a mental death match. And what I will say is that I think it'll be a very nice palate cleanser to what you just experienced this weekend. I think that, I think we need to, I think we need to press the, we need to blow on the cartridge and press the reset button on our NES wrestling because- Gotta do a hard reset. Yeah, hard reset. And we will,
01:20:55
Speaker
And then by the next show, we'll get into some Sicknick Mondo. We keep promising you sick. Listen, it's been a it's been a fucking week. All right, everybody, if you don't talk shit like in my week before this, I was good at Fellini Fest. Yeah, I was watching fucking Italian black and white cinema.
01:21:18
Speaker
And going back and forth between Deathmatch and Fellini, fuck, my brain is scrambled right now. I don't know what to do. Also this, you and I, you posted something today. Turnstyle is playing the basement east? Yeah. That seems like a good time, huh? Yeah. I'm kind of interested in that. When I saw that you posted it, I was like, ooh.
01:21:47
Speaker
There's some more aggressive music that I feel like I need to get in on. This is not aggressive at all, but they announced the lineup for Pride. I think I saw. Go ahead and let the people know. Okay. You could go to turnstile at basement east, but in September, Pride is happening. Salt and pepper. I love it. Kim Petrus. Love it.
01:22:10
Speaker
Or Velpek. Fucking love it. I'm in. You will see me at Pride, having the goddamn time of my life. You'll probably see me at Turnstile having a lot of fun. Depending on those dates, you might see me there. Because that all sounds like the most fun in the entire world. Well, I'm missing out on Terror, so hopefully we can get AJ to go see Turnstile.
01:22:31
Speaker
Ooh, I'll talk to him. Okay, thank you. We'll just throw a couple motherfuckers. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for tuning in this week. We'll, we'll be back again. I'm on social media. I'm at Gartet. Says your media. I am at Hardway Heater and we'll see you around the fucking bend. Kisses.
01:23:26
Speaker
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