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Nice Boys (Who Like Death Match Wrestling and New Girl)
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This week we're talking everything from 2001: A Space Odyssey to the career of Matt Tremont
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Levi Everett's Rumspringa Adventures
00:00:36
Speaker
I'm trying to think if I've done anything that dumb for a podcast. Like, done like, been like, done with this mustache. Disconnecting it. Yeah, disconnected. I'm gonna go full Levi Everett. Oh, I don't want to say that that's dumb if Levi's doing it. Yeah, but it's due to his religion. Well, yeah. He has to make that choice.
00:01:01
Speaker
Till he's on room spring, then he can grow out a full beard. I can't believe, like, is that gonna be heel Levi? I mean, it's gotta be, right? Like, him coming out in a bunch of death metal t-shirts? Skinny jeans, and like... Will he still have the Amish beard, though? I mean, I would say that... Maybe the hat? He doesn't have a hat. I would say, if he has a hat, what he would go with is, like, I would say a trucker cap backwards.
00:01:27
Speaker
Like go just be forget death metal. Let's just go full thrash Levi like backwards trucker cap municipal waist shirt Skinny jeans with some high-top white NYX See when you said the trucker hat my brain went more to like Ashton Kutcher Von Dutch. Oh
00:01:48
Speaker
See, I was thinking more like dirty, like beat up trucker hat, you know, been in a pit for a while because, you know, the man likes violence and he's Amish. Now imagine if he likes violence. He's on room Springer.
00:02:05
Speaker
and he finds something like thrash metal he finds like thrash metal concerts gonna blow his mind he'll be like wait a minute i don't have to be in a ring to be violent i could just enact violence everywhere those are the vignettes i need to see yeah i need to see levi at concerts you need to get him to go to the terror show
Amish Culture and Modern Contrasts
00:02:27
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I wonder, I mean, I wonder how what he would do. I mean, it would take him a couple of days to get here from Amish country wherever he's from. He's got a gun by horse and buggy. That has to be a pain for for travel. Yeah. You know what? He's got it every book. And he's got he's got only three days in advance because he's got to let his horses rest.
00:02:50
Speaker
overseas when they cock that goddamn wagon. Well, he could go by boat, couldn't he? Like, but it had to be like, I thought he needed the horse with him. Like, oh, well, I guess he would have to bring a horse with him. How's he going to get around once he gets like, if he went to England, like let's say he goes, let's say he goes to, he goes to Australia for something like he gets booked in Australia. So he's going to have to charter a boat.
00:03:16
Speaker
but he can't charter a regular freight boat. He's gotta charter a sailboat because it uses no power. Well, there are, I grew up around an Amish community and there are different rules. Do you know Levi's specific rules? I don't, I don't. Because I know the Amish that lived around me, they were allowed to drive cars.
00:03:40
Speaker
but they had to take the radio knobs off. So you can be in here, but you can't have fun. That's like having a television in your house and going, I'm never plugging in into the wall. It came with the house. Yeah, but wouldn't that be like Mennonite or German Baptist? I think that those like, because I know that they have the same
00:04:05
Speaker
accoutrement when it comes to dress. A lot of buttons, not a lot of zippers. Are they not allowed zippers? I believe that's part of the Amish culture is that you can't have zippers. They have button flies. Everything's button fly. That gives me a lot to think about.
00:04:26
Speaker
like so like that's why like the suspenders are like sewn onto the pants they're not they're not like the the snap guys
00:04:38
Speaker
Yeah, how much people can have zippers, man? They could never own a pair of bondage pants. That's what it is. He'd wear bondage pants. He wrestles with, he immediately starts being in like Effie style matches. He has like a ball gag in his mouth. Well, I would say like the trip pants, the old like, the old like hot topic, like, like, like zippers to nothing. Okay, now I'm just picturing Levi in like a gimp suit.
00:05:05
Speaker
like something leather mouth hole cut out yep yep yep yep yep yep ready to party yep yep because he's got like i think they get like six months for room spring i know a lot of information about room spring i mean i've seen a couple documentaries on it it's an interesting subject
00:05:21
Speaker
And so like, I just feel like, uh, yeah, I mean, why wouldn't you go all in? Like if it's a time for you to be like, they're like, go like essentially so your wild oats and like, see if you want to be a part of this religion. Like, why wouldn't you try everything? Everything like death match wrestling. Yeah. Come on Levi. Get on it. Time to ask for your, your, your room spring and get into that death match wrestling.
Finding the Podcast's Identity
00:05:49
Speaker
Well now that we've been talking for like seven minutes, welcome to the show everybody. A show with no name still. I have a list of names that were suggested to us though. We're like a Neil Young song. Love Neil Young.
00:06:06
Speaker
If somebody does leave a review of this podcast, it's like a Neil Young song. Be happy about that. I don't care how many stars you put with it. Leave it one star. As long as you say that, we know what you mean, and you mean it's a five star.
00:06:24
Speaker
when this show was predetermined we had one one-star review and it was because the beginning of me watching death matches I disrespected Necro Butcher and I found out that's something you don't do in deathmatch wrestling. I mean I get that but like he also be wearing MAGA hats and I'm
00:06:44
Speaker
Not super into that. I didn't know that. That makes sense. The Necro butcher. Right. I'm pretty sure I saw him storm the cap. It's a very much it's very much that line from Dark Knight. It's you either die a hero, you live long enough to see yourself become an all right Republican.
00:07:09
Speaker
So names. So what? Yeah. Do you want to see like, do you want to hear some of the suggestions? I would love to hear them. All right. We had at velvet are Presley. What? Great name. Yeah. I love that name. Follow him. Matt. He's from Canada. I love a good Canadian. Yeah. He said the absurd violence podcast. Absurd violence podcast. I like that. I like that. It doesn't quite have that
00:07:38
Speaker
that NPR absurd doesn't have quite that NPR, but it's a good name. It's in the running. Let's see, we had nice boys, then in parentheses, who like violence.
00:07:54
Speaker
I mean yeah that's things that we say things that we are we're nice boys in parentheses who like violence and new girl I think that one's kind of catchy yeah we could just make it like we could go we could add to the first one of the like the absurd and it could just be like every single every single week the podcast gets a new thing in the parentheses
00:08:22
Speaker
It'll be impossible to find everyone, but. Well, it'll find its listeners. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like it's somebody like just nice boys who like new girl. Yeah. New girl fans are going to find it. They're going to get into deathmatch wrestling. Listen, we're just trying to help deathmatch wrestling out here.
00:08:40
Speaker
and to show that you can have other interests. It makes it so hard to have other interests. I've learned that over the last two weekends. It fucks you up. I'm not maybe mentally, definitely mentally. I couldn't watch anything else after Tournament of Survival.
00:09:04
Speaker
really i mean i tried to watch so many movies oh yeah like i went to a theater to go see 2001 a space odyssey for the first time after a weekend of alex cologne getting smashed with light tubes how can i watch that first 30 minutes is just apes yeah right there's just like there is no there's no real danger in that like you need
00:09:30
Speaker
like you you have such an like an endorphin rush from watching it that you almost like the serotonin doesn't work like you need to come up you have to come up deathmatch like hard drugs you need like whatever the equivalent to like uh uh suboxone is for watching deathmatch wrestling
00:09:52
Speaker
specifically and especially if you take a lot in at once it ruined everything it ruined let me think of other i walked out of 2001 a space odyssey because i was sitting there thinking about deathmatch wrestling i love that i love that you had to walk out of 2001 a space odyssey but let's let's be honest here
00:10:13
Speaker
That fucking boring movie. Yeah, the fucking movie sucks like for like the first half of it like Beautifully shot. I will never take anything away from how beautifully shot that movie is But that movie is fucking boring. It is a fucking snooze fest
00:10:30
Speaker
And I think that maybe death match wrestling fans will stand behind me on this one. I feel like this isn't a hot take. This and that and Das Boot. Those are the two most fucking boring movies I've ever set through and went like, well, I have to watch it because like people tell me I have to watch it and then I watched it and I was like, I wish I had that amount of time back.
Directors and Wrestling: A Creative Match?
00:10:54
Speaker
I wish I could have sat Stanley Kubrick down and been like, okay, Coobs, we're gonna watch some wrestling.
00:11:01
Speaker
And I bet he was into wrestling. Well, I bet the Stanley Kubrick, I would even say goes as far to say, I think the Stanley Kubrick would have been a fan of deathmatch wrestling. If you think about it, I'm trying. Yeah. What makes you say that? He was so interested in the way things looked and nothing looks like deathmatch wrestling other than deathmatch wrestling.
00:11:26
Speaker
from the glass exploding or, you know, tacks sticking out of someone or going through a door. Great visuals. Yeah, just fantastic. And he was such a visually driven person. I think that he would like. I can honestly say here and say that I think that he would have stood by deathmatch wrestling if he would have watched any wrestling, he would have watched deathmatch wrestling.
00:11:54
Speaker
And then you would go scream at Shelly Devault for an hour or so. Yeah, yeah, give her a little PTSD and then hand Jack Nicholson a axe and go, go nuts, pal.
00:12:12
Speaker
Man, when you hear the stories about the Shining and how everybody was just on the cusp of losing their mind on that shoot, it's fantastic. I just cannot stop thinking about Coobs watching wrestling and what other directors could, what their eye could bring to the art.
00:12:35
Speaker
Well, I think that I think that I think that Koobs would have been a fan of. May I call you Koobs? Hey, hey, Koobs. May I call you Stan Koobs? I think that he would have been deathmatch. But if we're going to talk about let's OK, let's go into this. Other directors, what would other directors have been their favorite type of wrestling? I would say.
00:13:02
Speaker
I'm thinking like Wes Anderson right now and how perfectly framed he could get everything. I would say I would say he would have been a big fan of like World of Sport British wrestling like because it's got like that undertone of comedy but like it's also just weird holds. I think he would have been a big fan of like that. I want to say that like Steven Spielberg would have been like I don't know.
00:13:28
Speaker
Spielberg would love like Kenny Omega matches. You think that he would like, I think he would appreciate the storytelling throughout 2015 to like 2018 new Japan. Okay. Yeah. Like, like, like hype of like Kenny Omega Bullet Club. Um,
00:13:49
Speaker
And I would say, and that's about it. That is his only lane. He would love that, and then he'd immediately get out of it. He'd go, this is, I've had my fill. Okay, I have a pitch. Go.
00:14:06
Speaker
We need John Waters to direct the next Effie's big gay brunch. We need him to host it, host it, and direct it. Effie, if you're listening, get on it. I mean, John Waters was the host for Burgerama, and that's a disgraced label, or a disgraced label at this point. That hosting job is gone. Bring him in as a ring announcer for that.
00:14:32
Speaker
Yeah. Effie is a John Waters character to me. You're absolutely right. Holy, holy shit. I have never thought about it that way, but you're absolutely right. He would be a perfect fit. I want, you know what? I'm going to take it a step farther. Effie, you need a manager, not because you can't talk, but because I just want to see you and John Waters riding down the road together.
00:14:54
Speaker
I just wanna see what kind of misadventures you two would get into. And you know John Waters would love Effie. 100%. Like, he almost feels like his own creation. Right, right, right. Oh, man. Oh, man, come on. Happy Pride Month, everybody. Yeah, Happy Pride Month. Uh, yeah. Man, I can't get over that. I never even thought about that.
00:15:22
Speaker
How long you been thinking about this? I've been thinking about John Waters and Effie for quite a while. I'm not gonna lie. This has been a pitch. And you held that light in and didn't share it. Well, you know Effie. I always thought maybe you could. Well, now I will. Can you like tweet and tag both of them in? Hey, add Effie, yeah. Have you ever thought about John Waters as a running partner?
00:15:50
Speaker
I also thought about this while we were just talking about that. James Cameron would be like WWE. Like just straight up and down like or specifically like WrestleMania. I take that back. He might be wrestling Society X because of all the CGI explosions. He'd be like WWE with CGI explosions.
00:16:18
Speaker
All right, so we do have some other names. Oh yeah, let's get back to that. And Brad Bergstrand said, the nice boys who like violence. And now I am really considering every week, it is a wrestling podcast, nice boys who like whatever we happen to talk about. The name of the podcast could be nice boys who like dot, dot, dot. And the name of the podcast or the name of the episode can be whatever it is that we like that week. Death Matches and? Yeah, Death Matches and. Preasure.
00:16:48
Speaker
it varies we get like uber specific with it like like one YouTube video like oh nice boys who like waterpark fails yeah if you have a research waterslide fails you are missing out I have not and you like death matches these people don't sign up for it
00:17:09
Speaker
That's like that theme park action park in Jersey. Absolutely. Yes. Let's see. Here's the next name we got suggested is from a from dear friend Ben Volcker. Wrestling after passing WAP.
00:17:29
Speaker
I love it, I love it, but I have a feeling that in about a year, that one's gonna be dated. I like Cardi B, but that's gonna be dated. And then we have from Andrew Hendren, greetings from Gashville. Ooh, kinda like that, kinda like that. Ooh.
00:17:50
Speaker
Let's see. Greetings from gashville. That's a strong contender. It really is. That's a really strong contender. And then Tom LaRue suggested life after deathmatch. I like that too. That has the NPR-y feel to it. I think we were both kind of
00:18:11
Speaker
Falling into like like I can imagine that one being like, you know like a radio lab how they have like their entrance is just a bunch of people saying the title of their Radio lab and it's like just different voices. So it would be like like after deathmatch You could do that with that one That would be nice. Those those were all the ones that the suggestions we got. I like this. I like I don't know what to pick though. Yeah, I
00:18:41
Speaker
Well, I think that, uh, I don't know that we have to pick right now on the air. Yeah. Cause we still got time. We got time. These are just still getting released on the predetermined feed. I love that. Nobody's complaining. Yeah. Yeah. We're still doing it. So still coming out. Yeah. People are hearing it. People seem to be fine with it. We've gotten downloads in other countries. Greetings from gashville and life after death match. I'm I, uh, right now those are my top contenders because they, those feel,
00:19:12
Speaker
The most earnest they feel the most honest about what this is We will put some thought into that maybe and get back to you I guess we could narrow it down and see yeah, yeah like take like we could put I mean, I don't know how many poll how many like choices you can do on a poll on Twitter because I've never done a Twitter poll because I've just never done a Twitter poll
00:19:39
Speaker
Hardway Heater should do more Twitter polls. I've always thought that's what your Twitter was missing. Yeah. Oh, it was more Twitter polls. Where do you where do you want to see me get a scar next? Where's your favorite vacation spot? Yeah, right. Tell me about a repressed childhood memory. That's not even a Twitter poll. That's just a thread.
00:20:06
Speaker
but seriously send in heater your uh your oppressed childhood memories please don't I have my own to deal with I support all of you that have them but I've got a lot going on in mind so what did we what have you been watching this week holy shit since we last talked
Effie's Impact in Deathmatch Wrestling
00:20:31
Speaker
I guess I watched all of Tournament of Survival. I watched whatever the GCW show was that came after that Zack Ryder showed up on. Zombie Walk. There we go.
00:20:46
Speaker
honestly GCW two fucking fantastic shows yes 100% they may be my match of the weekend or of that weekend though and the one that I was excited to talk about is Effie versus G raver yeah because I feel like Effie I don't think of him as a deathmatch wrestler
00:21:04
Speaker
like he's a guy who does death matches right in there right but these last two weekends he's gone so fucking hard I would say I would say yes that the between
00:21:23
Speaker
No, I haven't watched Tournament of Survival yet, but I have, I did watch No Pieces, Fear the Gay Agenda, and I watched him in Pero.
00:21:37
Speaker
And yeah, yeah, yeah. They went after each other, didn't they? They acted as if that show was very important and gave me a fucking banger. It was important. Yeah. As far as I know, that has to be the first LGBT hardcore show. Yep. Yep. First one ever. First deathmatch show that featured all people of the LGBTQ community.
00:22:04
Speaker
That's incredible. Yeah. I love when I'm talking to friends that don't watch wrestling and they hear about this stuff. They are always completely shocked how inclusive the wrestling community really is. Yeah, right. Well, because I think that I think that there were so many years where like the ideology was it's just hillbillies who like wrestling. It's just it's these little
00:22:32
Speaker
crap hole shows it's it's you know like independent wrestling was you know the same 40 people in a building that weren't afraid to use homophobic and racial slurs
00:22:47
Speaker
Specifically, I would say in the south. I don't I don't remember too much in the north, but the only reason I don't remember in Boston. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. There's like but but I don't condone it at all. But there's definitely a progression to it in Boston somehow. Like they like it's just they haven't been wizened up that that's not OK to say like nobody's wizened up the whole city.
00:23:15
Speaker
we'll figure that out yeah yeah yeah that boston's boston's problems or boston's problems i'm not there i don't have to worry about it um but yeah that i watched that and i remember the gauge fe match um when and that was the first time i'd ever seen fe do a death match and i was just like oh
00:23:39
Speaker
if he's going hard in this thing like he's not he's not fucking around oh yeah that Derek and I were sitting front row for two cups stuffed that match and that match opens with Effie drop kicking a bundle of light tubes into Nick Gage's face and then immediately I think takes a dive out of the ring onto him
00:23:57
Speaker
Effie isn't fucking around. A couple times a year, Effie will go super fucking hard. And I feel like he goes hard every time, but as far as hard, I mean like death match hard. He's like caution into the wind hard. But already this year, we've seen him against Kogar. He took the skewers in the head, joined 4-4-0 for a minute. He had this crazy match with G Raver.
00:24:25
Speaker
Which, you gotta check it out. It is like some of the stuff that Effie takes in that. Cause I was thinking like, okay, G-raver is gonna be the one to take all these spots.
00:24:37
Speaker
No, no, not at all. They had a door that was, uh, it had super glued thumbtacks all over it. And I had just gotten done listening to G raver talk about how the worst thing that fans do and like bring your own weapons, right? Glue tax things. He said it hurts really bad and it looks like shit. Yeah. Because the visual you want from the tax is the explosion. Number one, the explosion. Number two, them to be sticking in you.
00:25:06
Speaker
And if they're super glued to the door.
00:25:10
Speaker
You've got to hit that door pretty fucking hard to take those tacks off that super glue. Just seeing those scratch down Effie's back, like he was so fucked up during that match. And his back is a mess. G-raver gets him up on the top rope, pours salt and vinegar chips all over him. Love that. I've never seen that spot before. Rubs the chips into the wounds. Oh man, I bet that sucked. Sounds awful. Man.
00:25:39
Speaker
But between that and the Pero match, F.E. can do no wrong. I also love the back of F.E. shirt that he was wearing. This is God Tried F.E. and I was... It's like God Tried F.E. Lived. That just went on sale today through MDK all day. Did it? Yeah. Oh, man. I saw that AJ has a shirt up there too. Oh, yeah. The new... I forget. I just saw it.
00:26:07
Speaker
It looks like a, I'll tell you this, it looks like a, it looks like a terror shirt. It looks like a. I think it says Black Death. Yeah. Yeah. But it looks like, it looks like an old hardcore shirt. And I might have to buy that strictly for the terror show so I can let everybody know that AJ's about to dive on him. So some people are excited about AJ diving on the stage for the show. I did get a little feedback that the people want it.
00:26:35
Speaker
Well, he I said I sent him a text and told him I was like, I'm going to need you to dive at that terror show. And he was like, why? And I was like, because I want to see a bunch of scared, skinny, hardcore kids run. I was like, I'll be there to I'll catch. But but Peter doesn't take die. Yeah, I don't listen. I will take a dive at a terror show. I will tell you that right now.
00:27:00
Speaker
I will protect it. I will protect AJ. But but he he even tweeted about it. He he sent a picture of him hitting. I want to say it was the Phoenix splash on at J.C.W. on Kid Osborne. And he said and he tagged me and Jesse and he said he said practicing for terror. I was like.
00:27:27
Speaker
I was very excited when he said that. So outside of Terminus Survival, you know I've been watching a whole bunch of Matt Tramont.
Matt Tremont: A Wrestling Legend
00:27:41
Speaker
And you and I have been kind of talking about Tramont.
00:27:43
Speaker
Yeah, this is a guy that I've always been aware of, but something about him never, I guess like I'm bad about looking at a wrestler and being like, I don't know if I want to watch you yet. And that was kind of, I think I was a little, little prejudice against Matt Tremont.
00:28:00
Speaker
Yeah. But then, OK, so now that you've inundated yourself with Matt Tremont, what are your Tremont? I've heard both. I've always called him Tremont. I don't want to get shit on the Internet. You won't. I might. You might. It's the Internet. Yeah, it's the Internet. Like, listen, I've probably said eight to 10 things already that people are like, well, hold on a second. It's not that way at all. But
00:28:28
Speaker
I've always said Tremont. But I know a lot of other people say Tremont. Maybe I'll get clarification on that at some point. If I run into him at a show. Honestly, he's a man I don't want to wrong. I don't want to piss him off. After watching a whole bunch of his stuff. After spending an entire weekend watching his violence. You go, that guy seems kind of dangerous.
00:28:58
Speaker
The documentary that I watched about him. The life after... What was that called? It was the Kenny Johnson documentary. It's like an hour long one. It's like an hour. It's on YouTube. Definitely check it out. If you especially I had some friends listening that did never watch deathmatch.
00:29:15
Speaker
really and we're just interested in hearing what we had to say about it i would check out that documentary i think that really kind of explains deathmatch wrestling pretty well yeah because it's so niche because it's so
00:29:30
Speaker
There's an inherent danger to it, not just for the wrestlers, but literally everyone in the building. You're breathing in dust, you're getting glass thrown in your face. Yeah, if a pain explodes in the right way, it goes into the fourth, fifth row.
00:29:49
Speaker
If if if people are doing their jobs correctly, it goes into the fourth or fifth row. I don't want to say that because that's not true. Like I would much prefer like every time I've the couple of times I've had one. I definitely want to keep it compacted to the area in which I'm in. Well, that's very thoughtful of you, right? Because I signed up for it. You know what I'm saying? Like I signed up for the death match. The first row didn't.
00:30:18
Speaker
I mean, they signed up to be there, but they didn't sign up to be an active participant in a deathmatch. Yes and no.
00:30:29
Speaker
Yes and no. The first time I went to a death match, no. I did not sign up for it, but I got front row tickets. That's my fault for being a dum dum. What was the first one you went to? Untouchables. In Chicago, GCW's Untouchables. The main event was Gage versus Crane.
00:30:49
Speaker
They beat the shit out of each other. You don't. That's one of the only matches or the only shows really that I saw people taking bumps on the skewers. Took some cyclope or yes, cyclope took a.
00:31:05
Speaker
a bump onto Razors. He had gills when he stood up. It was an entire death match show. Not only did you not know what you were signing up for, but then you got like, they inundated you. Because you're not gonna see razor boards at every show.
00:31:26
Speaker
No, I've not seen them since. I mean, live, at least. Yeah, right. And so, like, you got full blown inundated. Oh, yeah. And where we were sitting, I mean, we were maybe five feet from the ring and behind me was a wall. So there was nowhere for you to go. There's nowhere for me to run. Glasses exploding in my face the whole time. I'm screaming. If you go back and watch that show, you will occasionally just hear, like,
00:31:56
Speaker
love that it was just oh no oh no you know love at first sight a little 100% like I was intimidated to fall in love with it but I am now yeah 100% I
00:32:12
Speaker
I get that on the level of being a fan and also doing it. That's the other level that I would say that I get it on because I did the one and I was like, oh. Oh, this is like I've never had more fun than this. Not that other wrestling is fun for me. It's just like that's maximum fun the whole time.
00:32:40
Speaker
i think tremont put it like this at one point he said it's like watching a movie yeah and it is more like watching an action movie 100 and one of the matches you had me watch uh let's see it was tremont versus dj hide yeah cage of death 14 14 yeah so that would have been i don't remember what year that would have been but
00:33:03
Speaker
2014 maybe were they doing them based upon the year at that? I don't remember. We don't have to look it up. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Yeah, there's guys going through glass. Yeah, that fucking match. Whoo. That crowd is hot the whole time. They're so excited to see DJ hide.
00:33:23
Speaker
Get his. Because before this match, based on the bit of research I did on it, before this one, DJ Hyde had thrown Matt Tremont off of the top of a cage into like a spider web of barbed wires that resulted in 130 some stitches. And it pulled his pants down. I feel like not enough people bring that up. We did see his butt a little bit. Right. Ooh la la.
00:33:54
Speaker
but yeah that match we like that's one of that's maybe maybe one of my favorite train lot matches I don't know if it's I don't know if it's my favorite but I love just because the first I remember watching highlights of it
00:34:15
Speaker
back in the day. Back before like I could before I had a big boy job or I could like just afford to buy things like IWTV. I could watch like clips on YouTube and I remember thinking.
00:34:35
Speaker
that I thought it was gonna be a very one-sided affair at the beginning of that match because he's just like they I'm they open up with Hyde going through a pane of glass yeah that's how in the barbed wire yeah yeah I was paying a glass into barbed wire like that's how and I was like oh
00:34:57
Speaker
That that were hot starting this one, I guess like I was very like I was Shocked almost that it went that that way that violent that quickly because you know, there's normally a feeling out process
00:35:13
Speaker
and there was no feeling out process you could tell that tremont needed to put hide through some things it's like um i know saturday night live has two different ways they start the monologues like the opening monologue there's like a q and a from the crowd or like they tell a personal story right right right uh with deathmatch wrestling there's either the story of
00:35:37
Speaker
I'm not getting thrown through that. We're going to dance around for a little bit, build some anticipation. And then there's, I want to fucking kill you right now. Right, right. And they went with the ladder option. I do need a little bit of backstory on this though. So DJ Hyde is the
00:35:55
Speaker
the owner of CZW? So in this deathmatch world, he is like the Vince McMahon of that corporation. Correct. Correct. And who would that make Tremon? I would say the Stone Cold. Stone Cold? I would say he'd be the Stone Cold.
00:36:13
Speaker
You know what, maybe the Mick Foley, maybe the mankind, the like, I'm never gonna give you that shot. You'll always be just below the big guys. And in my opinion, that's his coming out party. He did exactly what Mick Foley did.
00:36:36
Speaker
you know, showed that. Like I'm a guy that you should put your fucking sock behind because I'm going to give you because I'll fucking kill you. Yeah, which was fucking wild.
00:36:50
Speaker
Such what felt like reckless abandon. He like he even does like the elix skipper walk on the on the top of the cage to which I love. Like he just takes like those like three steps over and he goes, I'm gonna put you through this glass. I couldn't believe when they went off the top of it.
00:37:08
Speaker
Yeah, there's some other bumps in there, though, that are gross, gross. The one from inside the cage to the outside, through all the glass, the chairs, the barbed wire boards. Man, Maddie. Yeah. And and. And then they show the clip in that match where they have to they're clipping the barbed wire out of his skin to stand him up.
00:37:36
Speaker
And my first thought was, oh man, I'm so glad they got over there and got him clipped before DJ got out of the ring and just pulled him out.
00:37:51
Speaker
where I don't know when you're watching this violence and it's all so real. Yep. But then Treymont will do like he'll sell in a little bit of a cartoony way. You have to kind of remind you this is still professional wrestling. Right. Exactly. He I think that that's I think that he walks that line of realism and understanding that everyone in the crowd wants a show.
00:38:20
Speaker
like I want I do want that stuff to a certain extent I want I'll use this as the example I want the punch drunk cell I want the like hit him with hit him with attack bat and then he's gonna throw those fists and then take a face bump because it's
00:38:41
Speaker
Like it reminds me, it's a show. This is the show. Like, like, I feel like you can get, I think you can get too inundated in deathmatch wrestling where the parts of professional wrestling that deathmatch has kind of get lost.
00:39:01
Speaker
But what I would say is that Tremont just does it better than a lot of people, specifically and especially when, let's be honest, when not a whole bunch of people were watching. You had like your CZW loyalists that were tape trading that were doing all that, but it kind of went through that dark ages for a little bit.
00:39:26
Speaker
where it was you had ECW and then like the offshoots of ECW being like XPWCZW, trying to think of the other one.
00:39:39
Speaker
But they were all doing deathmatch stuff as well. I can use those two examples and that's fine. And. And then it went like I like I would say like around like 2009 10 somewhere in there. Like it kind of just entered this dark ages where it became underground again.
00:39:59
Speaker
Like it wasn't as easily accessible as what I should say. Yeah. And like. How am I was holding it down that time? How weird is it to have to be that guy, though, to hold it down in a down period? I mean, I think I think it speaks to how good he was like, you know, because now, you know, he's retired. Um.
00:40:26
Speaker
do you think that he would if he hadn't retired like if he had had what was going on in like 2014 now he would be i would say probably because i think because i think treymont is one of the very few people that
00:40:43
Speaker
Um, took his retirement seriously. Like I'm not, I'm, let me, let me preface it with, I'm not shitting on anybody who comes out of retirement because if you get the itch, you get the edge. And if Treymont gets the itch, Treymont gets the edge. But what I'm saying is, is that he, I think that Treymont went out on his terms as opposed to a lot of people who.
00:41:07
Speaker
don't like I think that pretty 31 yeah but I assumed he was like 10 years older than nope nope he is he is younger than both of us but again
00:41:22
Speaker
Kinda smart because it's not like tremor doesn't have other things to do like he's got this the h2o school like he's running that school he's doing he's trying to build the next generation of wrestlers and doing a damn good job of it like I Watching those h2o shows is a blast Because those kids are good
00:41:45
Speaker
But what I would say is that I think he got to make the choice. And I feel like some people don't. And I'm really happy that he got to make the choice, if that makes sense.
00:41:57
Speaker
No, it does. It does. Especially because he seems like such a nice fucking teddy bear of a man. So I met him at SCI in 2019. And I can vouch for a teddy bear of a man. That is exactly who he is. So during SCI weekend, they have like a party in the heritage room, I believe it's called, at the Best Western.
00:42:26
Speaker
And everybody's up there just having a good time, hanging out. There may be some drinking, who knows? Things go on in that room, nothing crazy, just drinking. I think there was karaoke one night. Now you're backtracking, you're like, it was fucking crazy. Well, maybe it was.
00:42:47
Speaker
Hey, because I don't want to give it all away because I think everybody should experience SCI weekend, especially if you live in the South, you should experience SCI weekend one weekend because it's. It's if you're a wrestling fan, it's everything you'd ever want.
00:43:06
Speaker
It's wrestling, wrestling, wrestling, wrestling. And then guess what? There's more wrestling. So that's what I like about SCI weekend is I get to see a whole bunch of guys that I want to see wrestle.
00:43:21
Speaker
down the road from my house because Chattanooga is like what, two hours? Two hours. Yeah. So I get to I get to watch. I got to watch B-Boy and Matt Tremont wrestle there. Those were two guys that I had never got to see live. And I got to see both of them there. But anyway, so everybody's up in the back to the story. Everybody's back up in the heritage room.
00:43:44
Speaker
And it's above the city cafe, which is where everybody goes and eats during SCI. And so I may have had a couple adult beverages. And I will withhold the names of the other people I was with, just so we don't need to share that. But would people be interested in the names? A few of them, yes.
00:44:10
Speaker
Um, and so we leave the heritage room. We were walking downstairs and we're going to get something to eat. And I just see Matt Tremont smiling, walking through the lobby and I'm like, Trima, where have you been all night? And, um, he says, Oh, I was sitting in the lobby watching a movie on my iPad.
00:44:31
Speaker
And I said, there was a whole party going on upstairs and he goes, ah, that's okay. He was like, I'm gonna go back to my room now and I'm gonna get some sleep. And I was like, what do you mean that's okay? Did no one tell Tremont that we're all hanging out? See, but I'm more Tremont speed. I'd rather hang out in the room and watch a movie on my DVD player.
00:44:55
Speaker
I would have been like, fucking awesome, man. What are you watching? John Wick? Yeah. Let's let's party. We watched it. Let's fucking run it back. Let's watch it again. Get a pizza. Let's hang out. Did he have anything covering his forehead when you ran into him? Yes. Yes. Very much so. That seems like it seems like he wears a lot of hats. It was it was after. Well, it was after he had I believe he had bandages because it was after
00:45:25
Speaker
his match at for crux that they had at twe which was carry awful and righteous jesse verse uncle biff and matt traymont in a death in a fan spring the weapons death match and who boy
00:45:45
Speaker
he had a little bit of blood in tolahoma oh no that was in uh chat that okay that was yeah we we they he ran a show in cetanuga the the the the thursday before sci because sci starts on friday gotcha
00:46:02
Speaker
Um, but yeah, he ran a show on that Thursday and who boy, they went after each other and it was, I've never seen. Again, this is the first time that was the first time I ever got to see Treymont wrestle a lot like live and in person. And then he was not only wrestling one of my friends. Well, both of my friends, let me rephrase that all three of those guys are my friends and.
00:46:27
Speaker
But the two of the three are the guys are guys who trained me. And the other one is the one that I've rode with essentially since I started wrestling and that I felt like help has a big hand in how I became a wrestler. And then I and it's all these guys that I attribute a lot of my career to and Matt Tremon.
00:46:53
Speaker
so that was a very special match for me just based on the fact that this guy that I had watched for you know years is now like
00:47:07
Speaker
Interacting with people that I know on a personal level. But yeah, yeah, he's just. Tremont's one of the good ones. And and I have a feeling that if we continue to do these like deep dives on certain wrestlers, I think we're going to find that over and over and over again, specifically in the deathmatch community, because
00:47:33
Speaker
Everybody just wants their, their art to look good. That's what deathmatch wrestlers, that's what regular wrestlers want, but that's specifically what deathmatch wrestlers want too. Like when I, when I speak to them about it, this is like, I just wanted to look good and I want, I want people to walk away with an experience. And Trey Mon is one of those guys who definitely wants people to walk away with an experience.
00:47:57
Speaker
Oh, just watching him in all these matches, his facials, like he sells everything. It's one of my favorite things that he does. Uh, he also does the thrust, the thrust hits.
00:48:13
Speaker
I call him Canes, because I called the Glen Jacobs. The second you say that, I know exactly what you. Yeah, the Canes. And and he he throws a thrust, doesn't he? He really gets it in there. He just he's just. I could talk about. Tremont, because again, even though I've met him, I wouldn't I wouldn't say we have a personal relationship in any way.
00:48:43
Speaker
But I would say that Tremont's one of those, it was like the first guy outside of my circle that I met that was like, to me, a big star, that I was like, man, I'm so glad he's so nice. If that makes, like, that's how I felt, was I was like, man, I'm so happy that he's such a nice guy. It makes me think I could watch John Wick with him. I bet you could, and I bet you'd love it.
00:49:11
Speaker
I bet we, I bet he'd love it. He'd be like, yeah, I just, you know, me and Garrett sat there and watch John Wick. We really enjoyed it. We didn't have to sing karaoke. We have to sing karaoke. We have to interact with a bunch of other people. It was great. I don't know. There's something about him that he just in the ring. It's like he's an old cowboy.
00:49:33
Speaker
Yes, he has a very gunslinger feel to him. Where is he from? Jersey. Jersey? Okay. He seems like somebody I grew up with. Right. He just seems like a good old boy from my high school. He does not feel like a Jersey guy to me. He has that feeling of like, you've known Matt Tramont your whole life.
00:49:59
Speaker
And you come to your 10 year class reunion. And you go, Matt, what you been up to? And he goes, I got into deathmatch. You go, what? What's that? And he goes, you know, and like, he doesn't make a big deal about it. Like, and then like, you go home from the reunion and you go, I'm gonna see
00:50:23
Speaker
what this stuff that Tramont does is. And so you look him up and see him give the DVD off the top of the cage. And you're like, what the fuck is happening? And then you message him on Facebook and he goes, that's whatever. Like, it's just what I like to do, you know.
00:50:44
Speaker
That's that is very much his like a low-key personality like as opposed to like He doesn't seem like a braggadocious guy No, not at all. That's what I but I like that I like that when somebody's not braggadocious when they're like, yeah, I know the shit I do is really fucking cool Yeah, I don't need to tell you about it But yeah, so I had so we watched that one
00:51:12
Speaker
Is there, what else happened in that match that was just absolutely wild? DJ picking up a shard of glass off the ground. Oh yeah. It just carves his head up. And it's not one of those where maybe he was blading or something. It is very clear that there is a new line of blood every time that piece of glass goes across his forehead. Right. And it's like the thickest piece of glass
00:51:42
Speaker
i've ever seen somebody carve someone with like it looked to be at least a quarter inch thick yeah and and he's yeah he's just going he's going to fucking town on tremont's head tremont's doing that thing that he does where he like sticks his tongue out the side of his mouth he's like ah
00:52:04
Speaker
Yeah, trying to catch that book, put it back in. If you swallow it, it goes back in your body. Yeah, enters back into the bloodstream. Your stomach goes, no, that's blood. We have to put that back in. So we watched that.
00:52:24
Speaker
What else? I'm trying to think of you had me watch the wrong match. It turns out you watched the wrong on point match. I meant to send you the on point match of it's a dog collar match with Tramont. But instead I sent you low life Louis versus Matt Tramont, which is a good match in and of itself. It was just not the match that I was thinking of.
00:52:47
Speaker
When I think of Low Life Louie now, I can't not think of, I had some friends, I wanna say it was the curtain jerks, went to maybe a GCW show, where it was Gage versus Low Life Louie. Comes out with the pizza cutter, hits Low Life Louie, immediately hits him too deep, Low Life Louie runs away, match over.
00:53:05
Speaker
And that they were all so excited to see Nick Gage and they saw like a three-minute Nick Gage match Which you know what though let me say this Nick Gage cutting somebody too deeply You're getting a uniquely Nick Gage experience
00:53:22
Speaker
And one where he felt bad. He's like, I wanted to cut him more. I wanted to be able to see this. I wanted to cut him. If he wanted to cut me, he could cut me. But he was very much, yeah, that's a uniquely Nick Gage story.
00:53:43
Speaker
My Siri decided that it wants to say things. I think my phone's on it, Garrett. But yeah, it was very much the idea of he wanted to cut him and that's just not gonna happen. Why'd you cut somebody so deep? And Nick Gates feels bad because unlike David Arquette,
00:54:11
Speaker
He respects low-life early. Hey, David Arquette bought him a nice steak dinner before he did that. Before. Before. What do you think the over-under is on...
00:54:26
Speaker
David Arquette buying him a steak dinner after that match. I would say zero percent. You mean ever again?
The Unexpected Nick Gage and Matt Cardona Feud
00:54:33
Speaker
Like ever again. The people want a sequel to that match. I just I can't imagine that David Arquette would sign himself up for that.
00:54:42
Speaker
Okay, I have to, I know we aren't gonna talk about a lot of current events in wrestling, but Zack Ryder being involved in death match wrestling is something that has to be mentioned. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. I guess we don't know, we don't have confirmation that it's gonna be a death match at this point, but we know that it's Gage versus Zack Ryder. Ryder has to take something, right? I would assume so. He has to.
00:55:10
Speaker
By hook or by crook, Nick Gage needs to bust a tube open that motherfucker's head. He's referring to the GCW crowd as the GCW universe. That is the worst thing
00:55:28
Speaker
that I've heard in a long time. Like, how fucking dare you? You are co-opting WWE shit and putting that on independent wrestling fans? Fuck you. In all fairness, we're all still calling him Zack Ryder.
00:55:47
Speaker
So you think it's just like turn about a spare play? You know if we're not gonna call him by his real name, then we're not gonna call him always ready, Zack. And fucking Tournament of Survival opens with a Nick Gage promo on Zack Ryder.
00:56:02
Speaker
That is the first thing you the show opens with a Nick Gage entrance and he's like that fucking pussy Zack Ryder But like here I Fucking hate him and fuck him. But Matt Cardona played that exactly correctly
00:56:22
Speaker
by coming out doing the fucking sway like mocks nailed it hitting the fucking double arm ddt into a pile of glass into a pile of glass and then for that crowd who everyone in that crowd had both fists in the air because they were so fucking excited to see mocks and he pulled that mask off and all those fists turned into middle fingers
00:56:45
Speaker
But the energy somehow went up in the room. Because they went from excited to angry. It's just when wrestling can still surprise you.
00:57:00
Speaker
It can be a beautiful thing. And that was one of those moments. Because, like, honestly, did you ever expect to see Matt Cardona in GCW? No. Never. I never thought I would get to see Nick Gage and Matt Cardona exchange tweets. Right. Like, even that. And so, like, I think that
00:57:22
Speaker
There's more of a precedent there just because of how Twitter is now is that people will interact with people when there is no intention. There's nothing behind it. It's just let's interact with each other. Let's let's pop the the Twitter crowd. But
00:57:46
Speaker
Like and that's what I thought it was is I thought that, you know, Nick Gage is being Nick Gage on Twitter and Matt Cardona is like, you know what, this is just this is fun. Let's do this. Nick Gage realizing that Zack Ryder later was the funniest shit in the world. Wait, this is Zack Ryder. He's like, I'll kill that dude.
00:58:10
Speaker
I mean, it's just like, fuck Matt Cardona. Fuck Matt Cardona. You're just jealous of his toy podcast. You got them right. You got them right. I wish we had as many listeners as fucking Cardona. You know what? He probably gets free toys. And I want free toys.
00:58:27
Speaker
I would love a free toy. I would love free action figures. Lee would hate it. Our wives would be so fused. Kelly would be very upset about it. We don't need more shit. And I'd go, but a fan gave this to me, and it's special. And she would go, yeah.
00:58:47
Speaker
So were the other 15 that you got. I remember once trying to convince Leah that I should be allowed to buy a Ninja Turtle that looked like the Undertaker. I fucking love that. I love that. I fucking love that. Did it work? Nope. God damn it. I don't have that Ninja Turtle.
00:59:09
Speaker
Hey guys, let's make a dream come true. If it's free, it's for me. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, yeah, I'm absolutely jealous on that man's following. But at the same time, I would not disrespect Nick Gage in the way that Matt Cardona has disrespected Nick Gage. He deserves to get carved up a little bit. A little bit, yeah.
00:59:37
Speaker
I love the old the the old David Arquette treatment. Well, it was like, what's Cardona's partner's name, Chelsea Green?
00:59:50
Speaker
Not his podcast partner. Oh, Brian Myers. Brian Myers tweeted, this is like the part in the sandlot when squints kisses windy peppercorn. You're in deep shit. Yeah, it was awesome. I'm incredibly proud of you, but you're also in deep shit.
01:00:11
Speaker
And I'd never yeah, I think that I liked that tweet because I was like that's an act Yeah, perfect, yeah Yeah, I I'm I that was that was one of my favorite things from
01:00:32
Speaker
this last week in wrestling, last two weeks, I guess. But I, you know, I went on vacation for a little bit. So, and I took kind of like that, you know, the wrestling, the old wrestling sabbatical. And I say wrestling sabbatical. And what I mean by that is, is like, I only spent like two hours watching wrestling today as opposed to normal eight.
01:00:57
Speaker
where i had been watching so much fucking wrestling that i'm like i needed a little bit not wrestling right now so i went to go see in the heights uh-huh how was that the fucking two and a half hour musical oh no so i made it did you know that i knew that it was a musical didn't know it was two and a half hours that's fucking
01:01:14
Speaker
long man I made it like when I sat down in the theater all right here we go they start singing like oh it's like a musical musical and I look ten minutes in I pulled my phone out saw the runtime put my phone back in my pocket watch the deathmatch wrestling hey it's been real it's been fun beautifully done if you like musicals
01:01:40
Speaker
yeah um at least the first 10 minutes i'm watching it in segments on hbo now i like that i like that that's one of my favorite things that's happened during this pandemic by the way not to get too off topic but but the fact that they're releasing movies in the theater and on hbo max because then i can pre-watch the movie to see if it's something i'd even want to see in theaters
01:02:05
Speaker
Like, I watched Mortal Kombat on HBO Max, and then had a whole bunch of wrestling come up, so I wasn't able to go see it in theaters, and I'm kind of disappointed that I didn't get to go see it in theaters. Yeah, that was a pretty good one to see in theaters. Like, I don't know what people were pissed about with Mortal Kombat. It's fucking Mortal Kombat. It's a Mortal Kombat movie. It checked all the boxes. They said the lines, the characters were in it. They did everything that it needed to do. They added a little bit of a story to Mortal Kombat.
01:02:35
Speaker
But only kind of. I think me and you talked about it. The only thing I wish was there was a bit more Kano because I really enjoyed the guy who was playing Kano because he played Kano like a full-blown asshole. And that's all I want out of my Kano. Speaking of upcoming movies.
01:02:54
Speaker
Yes. We are what, like a week, two weeks away from the new Fast and Furious. Here we fucking go. The one with John Cena. Yes. And I know it's going to be impossible for me to not talk about this movie on this podcast. I'm going to have to. Well, OK, here's what I'll say is when that movie comes out, we take a break from deathmatch. We take a break from hard hitting wrestling.
01:03:24
Speaker
Nice boys who watch Fast 9. We are nice boys who watch Fast 9. We will go to the movies, we will watch Fast 9, and then we will talk about Fast 9. And then we are a movie review podcast, and then back to death. Don't worry, we'll still talk about low-life Louie in there, but we're also gonna talk about Dominic Toretto and his family. Right. And like how he just wants the family to be together.
01:03:49
Speaker
My family's going to space this time. John Cena's in it. I hear the surprises, the surprise actors that are in it. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You've heard? I've heard. Ooh, I have a heard. I won't tell you. No, no, no, no, no, no. Tell me. Tell me. Well, OK, spoiler alert for anyone. I know, like, because this was actually announced about a year ago. Ben Stiller's in it.
01:04:12
Speaker
Ooh. Why? Why? Who cares? I'm so excited. There's no reason for that. But just so you know, I already have my tickets to the IMAX screening, very first one. I do have an extra ticket if you would like to join. I would very much like to join. When is that? Thursday the 24th. I can make that happen. Perfect. We're going to Opry Mills. We're going to maybe sneak in some coronas.
01:04:43
Speaker
I love that. I love that. We'll sneak in some corona's and we'll get we'll stop by the Dollar Tree. Buy some candy. Yeah. Load. I'll wear cargo shorts so we can load down the pockets. They're not going to pat you down. That's that's true. Fucking dare them to pat you down. I'd be like, ah, pandemic. Yeah. K.O.B.K. bitch. I'll wear my hat. Fucking. They'll be like, I'm sorry, sir. Just go ahead and go on through.
01:05:09
Speaker
My buddy was wearing the KOBK hat when he went to the ATM machine and the camera wouldn't let him get his money out. Hey, listen, we're not that nefarious.
01:05:22
Speaker
We really try to not be that nefarious. We saw a wild one at the Masters of Pain. There was a wild KOBK hat in somebody that we have no connection to whatsoever. That has to feel good. Apparently it's a thing. It's a thing.
01:05:44
Speaker
kobk is growing yeah like it means something to us but i'm glad that it means something to other people too but yeah but it's been it's been uh it's been a week went set on the beach thought about deathmatch went to uh
01:06:03
Speaker
went to a baseball game, also thought about deathmatch. It's hard not to think about deathmatch at baseball. It just kind of permeates the brain at this point. That bat would be so much more fun if it were wrapped in barbed wire attacks on it. But like duct tape to it so that when you hit somebody with it, bah.
01:06:26
Speaker
yeah i want it to be i want a fire explosion like a metal firework like if they had rainbow colored tacks for fear the gay agenda that would have been beautiful how man what a missed opportunity man no peace i've got some ideas for you hey
01:06:48
Speaker
You got that John Waters money. Time to bring him in. Fucking viewers. Yep. Yep. You have to run double the amount of shows now just to pay for John Waters. But I promise you it'll be worth it and content alone. Also hand him hand John Waters the book on a show.
01:07:10
Speaker
And just like, I want him going in with like a rudimentary knowledge of wrestling. I want just pictures of wrestlers to flash across the screen and then John Waters to book matches based upon pictures of people. You know how fucking awesome that would be?
01:07:27
Speaker
i love this i love this we need seriously we gotta tweet john waters and effy collective next year let's make it fucking big effy presents john waters presenting wrestling the john waters way all right yeah we're here that's i'm here for that we're doing it
01:07:50
Speaker
What are we else we got? I don't know, I'm actually, I'm excited because I'm gonna start going to live wrestling again. I've got tickets to shit. It feels so good to have tickets. How far would you have tickets to them? I do have a ticket to Slammiversary. Awesome. Very excited about that, get to not have to travel anywhere to see it, which is nice. Yeah. Let's see, I'm gonna be in Indianapolis for the ICW weekend.
01:08:16
Speaker
Interesting, interesting. I have tickets to everything. So I've got ICW, No Peace, and Paradigm. Interesting, interesting. And then I'll be in Chicago in September for the GCW shows up there. That'll be fun. They're doing three cups stuffed.
01:08:37
Speaker
Yeah, I saw that. I feel like G-raver's gotta have a crazy match to make up for it. Either that or G-raver goes, no, thank you. Just try that move one more time. I can't imagine. I hadn't seen him take that move before. Yeah. I mean, like the brain buster on top of a ladder, it's just, yep. I mean, Derek still has a poster with G-raver's blood on it that he dipped on the ground.
The Summer of Deathmatch Wrestling
01:09:03
Speaker
Man. I mean, and...
01:09:06
Speaker
And for, you know, yeah, a spot that he had done before. And like, again, I think that we talked about this last time. G-raver is one of those guys that I think is criminally underrated because he's not just deathmatch. Like he can just have, he has great matches. Like I love his stories and for him to work in the way he works with the bad hand.
01:09:33
Speaker
Amazing. Amazing. Alpha freak accident.
01:09:39
Speaker
or if you believe G-raver, something that Jimmy Lilly did on purpose. See, after I heard Jimmy Lloyd's voice in that documentary, I don't think it was on purpose. He just sounds like a sweet boy. He's got too high pitch of a voice today. That voice is too high for you to do anything wrong. You didn't do anything bad. I didn't know he was a child actor either. Yeah, he was in... The Good Shepherd with Matt Damon. Yep, he sits on a couch.
01:10:08
Speaker
God, we need to get Matt Damon to take a look at him again. Hey Matt Damon, you want to cast him in anything? You need a sequel? Yeah. But I only want a sequel to that segment of the movie, like just that scene. That's it. He looks the same, a lot more scars. Yeah.
01:10:27
Speaker
But yeah, it's so you're getting to go to some wrestling now, which will be fun. I'm I'm excited as a wrestler to have fans back because studio tapings are fun. But there is nothing that matches doing in front of a live crowd. I can't even imagine it's it's it's night and day.
01:10:54
Speaker
I can't wait. I cannot, I can't wait for it to like, because most of the places even that I've been wrestling here recently are still are still have restrictions. Like they're still capping the amount of people who come in the building. But those capping those caps are starting to reduce to the point where like you and I talked about it. Like I'm very excited for this Indianapolis show from a fan perspective.
01:11:23
Speaker
to see what that place looks like if they pack it out because they had the restrictions last time I was there and so everybody had to sit you know so far away from each other there was marked spots and I can't wait to see what it looks like if they sell that place out.
01:11:43
Speaker
I will tell you as a person with a lot of anxiety, I'm fucking afraid to go back into the real world. Did you buy ringside or did you just buy gin? Second row for the ICW shows, front row for No Peace, front row for Paradigm.
01:12:03
Speaker
so you'll be down you'll be as long as it's as long as it's still for the the chair the chair seating because the rest of it's bench seating then you're gonna be all up in that action baby i need glass in my face gotcha that's what i needed
01:12:21
Speaker
All right. All right. Well, you know, I see that you're going to give me that shit. Yeah. Let me say this. I think that buying no peace tickets in the front row. I think that's exactly what the fuck you're going to get. You're going to get a you're going to get a face full of glass, baby. That's what I want. That's what I want. It's been too long without a show that makes me feel afraid. A good bit of fear. I want to be a vibe wrestling and a good bit of fear.
01:12:48
Speaker
Um, yeah, I I'm I'm excited to see what that place looks like. Uh, because man, we're back. Well, we're not back yet. We haven't beat the pain. We haven't we haven't beat the virus yet, but we're pretty fucking close. And as long cases are going down, cases are going down. Deaths are going down. Death matches are going up. Death matches are fucking shooting through the roof. ICW is calling it death match summer.
01:13:17
Speaker
So I felt like last summer was death match. Well, listen, so if they're saying last summer was death match summer or if they're saying that this summer is death match summer and last summer felt like death match summer, that only to me makes it seem like we're about to just like if our business is death match, then our business is good. But yeah, so yeah, it's just going to be real fun. Well, let's let's let's have a
01:13:47
Speaker
good time this summer and just see what we can get ourselves into. We're gonna drink some hard teas, we're gonna. Yep, yep, maybe we'll go out on the road, maybe we'll head up a couple shows, you can come with me. I would enjoy that. Yeah, and we'll hang out, maybe get to talk to some other people, maybe we'll bring a few other people on. Schlack, do you know Schlack?
01:14:14
Speaker
Can you bring me slack that one might be difficult? Slack a hard get I feel like slacks a hard get just because slacks busy doing slack things literally all the time He's got to wake up every day and be flat
01:14:28
Speaker
It has to be kind of expensive to be Schlack. Yeah, I would say, I would say, I mean, imagine the amount of protein that man has to take in. I know, I don't have to think about that at all when I wake up. Me and Schlack have different routines. Like, how many chicken breasts do you think he eats a day?
01:14:49
Speaker
more than Hugh Jackman did on X-Men, and that was a lot of fucking chicken breasts. And you know what? Good on him. Eat all the chicken breasts. Because you look like a monster, and I'm so proud of you for looking like a monster, Schlack. I just want to go get ice cream with Schlack, okay? I think he'd love that. I think he'd go
01:15:11
Speaker
You know what, no, Slack is not the guy who goes, I'm on my diet. Slack is absolutely, if you were like, let's go for ice cream, I'm buying. I guarantee Slack's like, fuck yeah, let's go. Soft serve, sprinkles. Soft serve, you want sprinkles. He wants brownie chunks, he wants, like he goes all the way the fuck out.
01:15:34
Speaker
So it's gonna, if I am buying, and we're taking Schlack to like a soft serve place, that it's by weight. I'm buying him a fucking expensive ice cream. All worth it though. Yeah, $50 ice cream.
01:15:49
Speaker
Um, but yeah, so let's, let's, let's fucking get this, uh, as ICW has dubbed it, uh, deathmatch summer 2021 off to a good start. I'm ready. I'll follow you around. I'll do whatever. Let's fucking do it. Let's do it. Hey, thanks again for listening. Thanks everybody who listened to the last episode. Uh, we're still kind of working on it, you know? Yep.
01:16:10
Speaker
It's a it's a work in progress, but I like where we're headed. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Let's let's keep having fun like this. You enjoy us talking. You can also see us post things online on my Twitter. I am at Hardway Heater.
01:16:27
Speaker
on my instagram i'm at hard way heater and i have a facebook but that's it's mostly personal so you can have those too see but this is this podcast is gonna make people think that they really know you i they're gonna they're gonna want that that face that's great but you can't fucking add hey guess what you guys can keep on wanting
01:16:49
Speaker
Well, I feel honored. If you wanna follow me, I am at Gartet on all social media. I was gonna promote other stuff, but we don't have other stuff yet, so. And other stuff to come shortly. Yeah, there's always gonna be other stuff. Yeah, absolutely. There will never not be other stuff for us. Yeah, there's, oh, I can't wait to see who we spotlight next this week, Matt Tremont. Who you feeling? Who would you like to watch a couple matches from?
01:17:20
Speaker
Well, I'm trying to think of somebody that I have not gotten into at all. And I know that over the weekend, or two weekends ago, whatever, they inducted Sick Nick Mondo. Do you want to do some Sick Nick? Let's do some Sick Nick. We're doing some Sick Nick Mondo. I'm very excited about that. Let's watch some Sick Nick. All right, everybody. Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you next time. Kisses.