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The Spice Man Said He'd Draw Me A Comic Book
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This week Garrett, Chris and Hardway Heeter chat about the upcoming Circle 6 show in Nashville, "Street Thug Beatdowns: Exposed", GCW Homecoming, All In and more!
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Show Introduction and Co-host Introductions
00:00:34
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predeterminate Pro Wrestling Hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender, and with me this week, Chris Miggs, I almost said Jimmy Fax. No, Jimmy Fax, we've got Hard Way Heater back with us. Hi. That's it. That's it. That's the whole show, guys. It's a one minute show this week. We could be on this week.
Hard Way Heater's AEW Experience
00:00:59
Speaker
Heder, you were at AEW last week. You were a section ahead of me. I saw you down there. When do you think you will challenge for the Texas Chainsaw Massacre title? Listen, I don't know how that match played on television. I don't know how much people enjoyed it at home. From what I'm reading, not very much. Not really.
00:01:27
Speaker
I didn't mind it completely. I wish they would have done a lot of those things in the ring, but the one thing I will say is that belt is very cool.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre Title Discussion
00:01:38
Speaker
And I will absolutely fight Jeff Jarrett any time, any place, anywhere for that belt specifically. It really does look like what every death patch promotion would want their title belt to be. It was like, oh, I bet like a bunch of guys, a bunch of death match motors were like, oh, god damn it.
00:01:57
Speaker
Yeah. That's better. That's better. Danny DeMonte is just like, ah, they got to it before I could.
00:02:08
Speaker
But no, I really think that is something that if you just want that belt to be KOBK's belt, I think you can just have it. Like I don't think that we are ever gonna see it again unless somebody just claims it. So I think that the process is you have to book Jeff Jarrett and he's gotta go on like a two year run of defending that title.
00:02:35
Speaker
And he wants to bring in all his friends. We're going to get the Road Dog. We're going to get Steve Mongo McMichael. We're going to get any Living Four Horsemen member. And so that's going to happen. But at the end of it, when I beat him for that title, then that, yeah, that just becomes the KOBK Heavyweight Championship. This seems like a fair trade.
00:03:00
Speaker
I don't know, I bet Road Dogg doesn't work that expensive at this point. That's also very fair. Jeff, Jared might, he's on TV every goddamn week. Like that guy's on TBS just as much as the friends are. But doesn't he still, does he still live in Nashville? I believe so. This is a driving, this is a quick drive for him, you know? Yeah, I can get him zero trans.
00:03:30
Speaker
a lot of think he's looking for something on some weekends to do like away from Karen. You got to think Karen's just like planning a lot of brunches and stuff. And occasionally Jeff's like, I got to go wrestle a show. No. Well, I mean, he's just, you know. She's probably in a mental institution now. A man with a chainsaw did chase her out of a arena and her husband did nothing.
00:04:00
Speaker
He's got his priority. He needed to win the title. He needed to win the title, Garrett. He's sleeping on the couch now. She won't even notice if he sneaks out and goes to the Cobra once a month or once every... But he's curled up with the Texas Chainsaw Massacre belt. So that's all that really matters to him. Taunting his wife with the face of the man who nearly assaulted her. Nearly, nearly. He didn't succeed.
Upcoming Wrestling Event at the Cobra
00:04:28
Speaker
Well, speaking of the Cobra heater this weekend, big match. Yeah. Yeah. Add some stuff to the show too. We got circle six coming up at the, the Cobra. So circle six bar room blitz. Um, so far I'm going to talk about my match last because if I'm not going to put me on main event, nobody else's. So, um, the matches that have been announced so far,
00:04:56
Speaker
I believe have been Hoodfoot versus AJ Gray. Is that the main event? Listen, yes. That is the match that it'll be daisy on whether or not the Cobra can book wrestling shows anymore.
00:05:20
Speaker
They wrestled before those two guys? Yes, so they wrestled at that 24-hour GCW show. Oh. But that was like years ago. And in the middle of the night? Yeah, like two o'clock in the morning. Is that the only time, though? The only time that would be at that level. Gotcha. I'm sure it's happened before, but not to my...
00:05:48
Speaker
direct knowledge. It might be buried within the depths of IWTV somewhere.
History and Style of Tag Team 'Lifers'
00:05:53
Speaker
And I don't remember if the other match got announced that isn't me, so I'm just going to stay away from that. I think at least one more match got announced. So that is the other match that got announced, myself and Sean Campbell, KOBK versus the lifers, Matt Justice and Bobby Beverly.
00:06:15
Speaker
And did those guys like just recently come together? Because I feel like I saw clips where they were doing terrible things to each other. Is this like a respect thing where they've now come together and now they are tagging against you guys? So they were called the lifers. They tagged, it would have been like, I want to say like 2019, 2020. They were actually before, I think before
00:06:44
Speaker
before Bobby was part of 440. Okay. And so they tagged together. And I used to see them at shows for a company that I rest for paradigm. They used to, they used to wrestle often enough there that, you know, the lifers were the lifers. And then you went, Oh, neither one of those guys believes in concussions. So because there was just unprotected chair shots forever.
Heater's Match Against Matt Justice and Bobby Beverly
00:07:11
Speaker
And
00:07:13
Speaker
So I always really enjoyed them. You know, originally it was supposed to be me and Matt in a singles and Bobby decided that he wanted to have a tag. And guess what? I'm going to drag Sean Campbell to a 21 and older bar and make this 20 year old wrestle to full grown adult men who have
00:07:35
Speaker
CTE. He's not even going to be able to drink a beer after. No. No. No, in fact, if he leaves the room, he can't come back in. You got to at least have a prime ready for him after the match, then. If he can't have beer. I'll get him one of those bottom pop ones. Yeah. That seems fair. Good things about that one.
00:07:56
Speaker
What is your strategy going into this? I mean, you're against two scary men. I mean, you're a scary man, but I mean, you're up against beast man's champion. Right. Right. My wrong is beast man. Is he the champion? Beverly's the Appalachian champion right now. Am I making that up?
00:08:17
Speaker
Did that change? Cause it was Josh Bishop for a while, but I haven't, I haven't watched the summer. I haven't watched the summer wild wings recently. I'm pretty sure the bev is the champ over there. Okay. Well, so that, I mean, listen, I believe that we've all, you know, at least somewhat paid attention to the, to the, at least, I mean, that justice is Matt justice. Matt justice has been Matt justice for all of Matt justice's life.
00:08:42
Speaker
So, and for those people who aren't maybe necessarily as familiar with Bobby Beverly, he's been on a tear this last year. There was a match that I watched him have at ICW Chattanooga against Dr. Redacted that I was pretty sure that he was going to
00:09:09
Speaker
If somebody had asked me to put money on the table, I would have been like, well, I mean, I guess we're all talking to police tonight. In this time, it isn't because Nick Gage tore up the nacho stand in Wyoming. Or because Marty Junetti did an autograph signing. I'm curious about the strategy question that Garrett asked because
00:09:39
Speaker
I feel like normally you don't see a tag team match in a no-ring scenario, right? So clearly this is tornado tag rules, right? They're not gonna force you to stand in the corner of the bar. You don't have to hold a little rope by the bar. You have to have your hand on a bar stool.
00:09:59
Speaker
Accept tags No, I would assume that that I think that me and Sean are kind of going in with the same mentality as per usual is is we're just going to Just be able to absorb more punishment We're gonna really rope it out these guys like like they're just gonna beat us up like a whole bunch Hmm, and then they're gonna get tired and
00:10:27
Speaker
And then I'm gonna have Sean read him a bedtime story, and we will sneak pins in on him. We can also, you can get the option of getting him drunk. Yeah. That's an option. The bar is right there.
00:10:41
Speaker
Sean will be sober, so. Right, right. There we go. That's a, you know what? Maybe that's the strategy is I just get Bob and Matt very, very drunk. We just sat there and we do shots and Sean says there are the shots of water and just plays it up, plays it up, plays it up and then just roll up one, two, three. I think that's the, listen, I, this comes, is this, this is going to come out before?
00:11:08
Speaker
It will, yeah. Well, you can't let Matt Justice or Bobby Beverly hear what we want. Don't worry. The only way they they find out about this is if Jimmy Lloyd listens and acts one of them. This is you got to understand this is a private conversation between you and your little guys here. So this is this is very.
00:11:29
Speaker
Fair enough. Fair enough. They can't listen. The other thing I'm curious about, like, cause you could tag team moves in the bar. I feel like you got a lot of options there. Yeah. You know, no one's seen like all those classic tag team moves done from the top of the bar. Just yeah. Like a, like a, a real, a real doomsday device off the top of the bar. I'm, I'm, I'm thinking I'm with you on this. Yeah. Power plaques off a bar. Yeah.
00:11:56
Speaker
Flash, you know, coming down. I think that there's a lot of opportunities here and something tells me that Matt Justice and Bobby Beverly are willing to go as far as you are willing to suggest.
Wrestling and Family Balance
00:12:06
Speaker
I would venture to say they probably are willing to go much farther than I am. I mean, the clip on the top clip on the Circle Six Instagram right now
00:12:17
Speaker
Is Matt Justice jumping off like a trailer? Yeah. Into the brain. My first thought, even when it was the singles, my first thought was, OK, what is Matt Justice going to jump off of at the Cobra? And so I went to the Cobra and had a drink and walked around and looked at the things that he would potentially want to jump off of. He still can.
00:12:44
Speaker
There's more guys to catch him this time. Gorilla monsoon would appreciate this. He did your homework. He did your homework. I scouted the location. The advantage you've got. This is your hometown. Your hometown crowd. This is and bar. Normally you don't get in wrestling. I feel like normally you don't get a home field advantage that that's strong.
00:13:09
Speaker
Right. Right. Well, what I can do is as, as, as the match is going on, if it's starting to look like it's not going our way, I'll just talk to the door guy and be like, Hey, they got to go. Does the Cobra have any sort of machine on the wall in the bathroom? Like it, like where you can get those sour drops or condoms.
00:13:34
Speaker
or a little squirt of cologne, do they have? They don't have any of those. They don't have any of those. All those surfaces have been removed. Does the cobra have a bathroom guy who might offer you a mint and might be able to be involved? Listen, anyone in the bathroom peddling wares at the cobra is not offering mints.
00:14:02
Speaker
I always find that the most awkward though at wrestling shows when they do have one of those guys in the bathroom, cause you're like, sir, what do you think this is? I mean, I know you're here because this turns into a club in two hours, but come on. Well, that's, I remember going to, it was like right when I had moved to LA, I went to see fucked up at the El Rey and going into the bathroom of the El Rey and there being a bathroom attendant offering me men's and paper towels, it's like,
00:14:33
Speaker
We're seeing a band called fucked up and everybody in this room is poor.
AEW Experiences and Future Matches
00:14:38
Speaker
We barely got into this show. Why? Every dollar we have is going towards merchandise. I looked it up. There is one more match announced. If this isn't the match that you were going to say, I don't know.
00:14:58
Speaker
Uh, tank versus Casanova. Yeah. That, so that was the, I, if I'm not mistaken, I think it's just those three matches for this show. And then you said a couple bands. Yeah. Uh, so a band called rules of engagement and a band called great minds. Okay. Are we getting full sets or are these like, are we going like wrestle band, wrestle band? If I had to guess, I would assume warp tour sets. Okay.
00:15:26
Speaker
Like, you know, the old 25 minute or get out of there. Okay. Okay. I mean, that's a for 15 bucks, three, three fights, three bands. That's not fair. Two bands. That's, that's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. $15. Hey, we were charging more than that for only six fights. No, I'm, I'm excited about this. My wife's coming with me. Uh, the, the grandparents are in town are going to watch the kid. She's excited to get out and she's never seen you bleed in person.
00:15:56
Speaker
Well, that all changes Friday night. It's going to be prepared because my son's birthday is on Sunday, which is OzFest 2023. And the grandparents are going to be there. And I am fully prepared for my father to ask Heder a lot of why questions.
00:16:25
Speaker
Hey, you know what? I cannot wait for that. I mean, in terms of things to do at a child's birthday party, that's not a bad option, honestly. They're not that exciting. He's going to throw his hands in some cake. You're not going to be able to eat that cake because his face is going to be in it.
00:16:49
Speaker
And honestly, we might miss that because all in is happening at the same time. Right. Are you are you going to barbecue, Garrett? There was talk of barbecue, but I think it's going to be so hot.
NWA Tapings and Promotion Perception
00:17:02
Speaker
And there's a lot of there's a big mosquito problem in my neighborhood right now. So I think that we might end up not barbecue might just order it or order food like. See, because I think you have you can welcome your guests and control their nutrition, Garrett. That's.
00:17:18
Speaker
They deserve that. Is it bad to feed people control your nutrition without consent? You're controlling their nutrition. You know what's best. Don't let their fears of their nutrition being controlled control your narrative.
00:17:47
Speaker
So Garrett, in this version, your EC3 and everyone else is that guy that they were like chaining and telling that they were gonna to be a man.
00:18:02
Speaker
His nutrition was uncontrolled and EC3 got it controlled. Basically, I have to feed them this and then walk around each married person at the party and let them know that we all thought that we fucked their wife. Speaking of, EC3 never sent me that goddamn comic book. I had to have been the only person that sent that motherfucker money for that. How much did you pay for that comic book?
00:18:30
Speaker
Um, it was like seven bucks. Like, and that's with shipping. Cause I think the comic was technically free. I just paid for shipping. I love the idea of, of you being the only person that bought that comic.
00:18:44
Speaker
And just randomly in like three years, EC3 opens like his pay power, whatever he was paid through. And he was like, what the fuck is this $7 from a guy named Garrett? Oh shit, I should write that for him real quick. And I just get this like hand drawn stick man, like big man, big man hungry. Oopsie, I fucked your wife. Deal with it.
00:19:12
Speaker
It's just an NWA 75 poster. I should go to one of those TV tapings coming up just so I can ask EC3 where my comic book is, because I bet that will make him very uncomfortable. Because he's like, I didn't think I'd meet the guy I stole the $7 from. I think you should go just cuz. I mean,
00:19:41
Speaker
I don't know. Cause it's wrestling in town. Where, where's the NWA tapings? It's at Skyway. Okay. Like where we did the impact ones there. How much are they trying to charge you for this, Gary? Too much, man. Like I, have you seen, like, do you remember when Billy Corrigan was cool and like you believed the things he said?
00:20:06
Speaker
I mean, 1998 was an interesting time. He was... I just like, I can't even listen to those songs anymore without thinking about him trying to tell me how good his wrestling promotion is. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Heater. I know, like, you don't have to comment on any thing he's saying. I don't give a shit. Garrett's over here getting Bullet with Butterfly Wings ruined by Tyrus.
00:20:36
Speaker
Like, honestly, this is the worst thing that Insane Clown Posse has done. Like, they just got on our good side over the last few years, and now they're showing up at this show? Plus, I looked, let me, okay, I've got fight pulled up. How much do you think the two-night NWA 75 bundle is? Ooh.
00:20:57
Speaker
Oh, okay. Well, based on that reaction, you know, it's not as much as I thought it would be. Well, if they were smart, they would just charge $75. Nuts, sir. Chris, I'm not saying that I would call it. I'm going to go $30 for the bundle.
00:21:20
Speaker
Well, if we're prices writing this, Chris wins because it's heater you went over. It was 39.99 for two nights of this in St. Louis in a ballroom. I mean, still not a great deal, but I will say the tapings, um, the, the bottom price is 1995 for an evening of wrestling. Is it Monday, Monday, Tuesday? Yes. And in fact, you can get a two day taping pass for only 34.95 that that's only 17.
00:21:51
Speaker
50 a night or really 17, 47 and a half. What time did the tapings start? Uh, they appear to be from seven to 10 PM. If you want me to go to Tuesdays, I can make Tuesdays. I mean, it's up to, I'm not going to force you to do anything. No one's going to force you to watch Tyrus. I forced you to watch a lot of terrible stuff. Garrett, I'm not going to force you to watch Tyrus.
00:22:20
Speaker
I don't think our friendship could survive that. I hope there's meet and greets because I for real will ask EC3 to his face where my comic book is. I bet he doesn't even remember that that was a thing he did like a year ago. I bet he I bet he does. I think he thinks about it a lot. He's just so disappointed the comic book didn't come out.
00:22:47
Speaker
He's gonna tell you about how sad he is and then probably give you like a free, like signed eight by 10 as compensation. This is bullshit. Can we, okay, can we talk about the wrestling I'm actually excited to talk about now? I guess, Garrett, go for it.
00:23:11
Speaker
I've been holding this in before we before we started recording because over the weekend was GCW homecoming two nights in Atlantic City.
GCW Homecoming Event Highlights
00:23:20
Speaker
They've taken us out of the the fun room because that's becoming like a kid's playground or some mini golf course, apparently.
00:23:27
Speaker
Yeah, they stuck us in the back room again for this. And like, I don't know, it's just that show, that room seemed so big. Then we were doing it on the boardwalk and those shows felt big. And now we're stuck in a garage, like where it feels like we're supposed to be. The difference between the carousel room, the boardwalk and the new room is all of the pomp and circumstance is gone.
00:23:57
Speaker
every last bit of it. It really does feel like a shed. Right, mittens didn't even feel compelled to wear a shirt in it. That show literally opens with shirtless mittens. Next to a bunch of people in shirts that say Matt Cardona fears gramps. Yeah, they... Heater, did you see any of it? No, I haven't seen any of it.
00:24:25
Speaker
There was an old man in the front on a rascal, and honestly, he was a pretty big part of the show for some reason. Okay. I didn't appreciate, though, that Cardona screamed at him and not Mittens. I mean, like, come on, don't scream at a grandpa. Mittens is right there. Yeah, screamin' at grandpa's cheap heat. You gotta... Right, right. Screaming at Mittens is tasteful heat. Yeah, yeah.
00:24:55
Speaker
That's real true worker heat. This disco inferno can get behind and has nothing bad to say about it. Um, no, so I, I watched a lot of night one and it was very good. Honestly, one of the better shows, I feel like GCWs had in a while, but I, there were a couple of things I wanted to catch on night two before we were recorded. One, Becca made her GCW debut against Maki Ito. I saw some of this match.
00:25:26
Speaker
by the way. I feel like Becca's getting pretty good. And then the character really works. I think, well, particularly against Maki Ito is one of those things that, frankly, there should have been months of promos to build that up. It's so perfect. With just a little bit of promo work.
00:25:51
Speaker
Cause I mean, Beck is going to be gravely offended that Maki Ito thinks that she's a cuter and a better singer. It's yeah, it really felt like something that wasn't thrown together week of that seems like a match that there should have been a little, a little build to, but the thing I was most excited to talk about, I fast forwarded and I watched, um, I watched the Blake Christian Masha match.
00:26:20
Speaker
This is maybe my favorite match I watched this last week. Oh wow. For a middle of the show title match, which is never like a great spot on the card for your heavyweight title. Those two beat the fuck out of each other. Like everything looked like it mattered. Every strike looked painful. Like they were fucking vicious. Like honestly, this may have been Blake Christian's best title match.
00:26:49
Speaker
since he's done this. I don't know, they were just, they had really good chemistry, they were hitting each other so hard, and it looked like they both wanted it. So you're saying this was better than a match with Beastman? Wait, was Beastman on something this week? No, the better than, you said it's Blake Cushing's best title defense, and he defended the title against Beastman. You're, I hate doing that to you, Beastie, but I think,
00:27:18
Speaker
I think Masha may have, may have got you on this one. Wow. Okay. Bold words. It was, it was really, really good. It seemed like they went out there knowing that their match was middle of the fucking card. And they, I don't know. They, it seemed like they proved people wrong. Like this should have been the main event kind of thing. What was the main event? The main event was Re Reena versus, uh, Violinto Jack.
00:27:48
Speaker
I didn't, I honestly, I haven't, I haven't seen it yet. So I can't, can't say, but, uh, the one thing that I do think this match is a bit of the problem with GCW. There's like moments where there's rope breaks, like where a ref gets bumped and somebody's going to sneakily use a weapon. It's GCW like hitting somebody with a belt at this point. Fuck.
00:28:13
Speaker
You don't even need to get rid of the ref for that. Your boy Akira interfered while the ref was down. And he could have just come out at any time. Maybe even his fault she didn't win. He could have just come out there and done this from the beginning. I'll have a conversation with him. She looked like she could have won it on her own, but she didn't.
00:28:43
Speaker
they may need to consider, that's actually, that's a show I would pay for. Wrestling couples therapy. Like one of those, my wife just started watching the 90 day fiance people, some of the couples are doing a couples therapy thing at some resort or some shit. And I feel like with wrestling couples, this could be really entertaining.
00:29:13
Speaker
Like, don't you want to see Adam Cole cry because of the one time he offended Britt Baker or something? What other wrestling couples are there? There could be like a dating show where you see Buddy Murphy and every single wrestler he's dated. I mean, he's engaged to Rhea Ripley now, though.
00:29:35
Speaker
Yeah, I saw that her last name on Instagram, or wait, no, no, I'm sorry. Nevermind, I'm thinking, I'm thinking of Juice and Tony. Juice and Tony is another, I mean, that's gotta be, if you imagine their characters having a dinner table conversation right now, it's pretty amazing where she's just sort of like crumbling as this, and he's just talking to, he's like talking to the Jay White cutout,
00:30:05
Speaker
shouting Ricky. That's why, if you think that's probably, that's one of the reasons she's collapsing is that she's getting no emotional support at home. She lost a title and he's, he's just, just watching old Randy Savage, ICW tapes, you know, just copiously taking notes. Just folding in on himself.
00:30:39
Speaker
Yeah, make this happen, AEW, couples therapy, just do it. You need to go get a job at Warner Brothers and pitch it to them because they're gonna make Tony Khan do it, and then there's gonna be three episodes of this a week on D&D after basketball. I'm just, that's the job I want, pitching wrestling reality shows at HBO Max, at Max, not HBO Max, sorry, just Max. Max is the brand. Right.
00:31:10
Speaker
Did, uh, what else did you watch on the GCW show?
Cardona's Wrestling Persona and Investments
00:31:14
Speaker
So I watched, I watched what you told me to Garrett. I watched it. Um, I watched the tag match from the first night with Maki death, kill against, uh, uh, Cardona death match royalty, which I thought, I thought that was good. I mean, it was kind of a sin. I was going to say send the crowd home happy, but it went on first, but it was the,
00:31:35
Speaker
It wasn't like an amazing match, but it was the blow off to all the shit for two years. And it was like appropriately bloody and violent for that. You know, Cardona got gauge leaking early. Right. And then, well, then Cardona bled pretty darn well. Refusely. Very profusely. Like as much as you want to see Matt Cardona bleed, he bled.
00:32:01
Speaker
But yeah, Heater, I don't know if you saw any of the video or pictures from this match. They came out with the Ecto One, and Delander and Cardona were in the Ghostbusters jumpsuits, but it said Deathmatch Busters. And instead of, it was like the style of the Ghostbusters ghost, but it was Gage with the headband and pizza cutter and the no sign around him. Well, and I think they had a custom, it sounded like custom theme music too, that it was like basically a takeoff on
00:32:31
Speaker
uh the death the the ghostbusters song but would someone change the lyrics or something Matt Cardona is having so much fun he's spending his own money for wrestling oh yeah there's no way there's no way he came out ahead on this weekend with whatever it took to get the car and the outfits
00:32:52
Speaker
you know, Lauderdale's pay, like Lauderdale's paid him the most he could pay anyone. And like, he's still just like, don't worry about it. I'll make it, I'll sell a couple of figures. I'll make it up. Don't worry. He's still in the whole thousands of dollars. Well, I mean, those GCW shows are the commercials to book him on all the other ND shows.
00:33:17
Speaker
I don't know, like you said, it wasn't a great match, but it was a fun match. It was a really fun opener to that show.
Tony Deppin's Return and Crowd Interactions
00:33:25
Speaker
And I forgot that Deppin was out of action for a few months. He broke his arm. Yeah, because would Sabre kick it? Like Sabre broke it, right? Yeah, Sabre broke it somehow. I think it just landed, something he did landed wrong and he broke his arm against Sabre.
00:33:44
Speaker
Well, he had a nice comeback match against Alex Zane. You know, there was a little bit of ring rust, but at the beginning of the match, Deppin gave the angriest thank you to the crowd where he's just like, I was pissed. I would be pissed poor if you people hadn't supported me and my family during this. Thanks. Like everybody's like, what the fuck? Like that a real thank you or?
00:34:13
Speaker
But I love the Double Dog Collar match. I thought there was a lot of good stuff in the Janela and Sawyer against Mason and Pero. Or at least there's like memorable spots in it. Definitely that. I think there's definitely memorable spots. The finish is kind of was very cute, cute but violent. Yeah.
00:34:36
Speaker
I think the most memorable moment of that to me, because they're in this very white garage, essentially. And at one point, Janela, who is just gushing blood, gets thrown into this pillar and like Looney Tunes style slides down the wall with his face against it. And just that enormous streak of blood from his face down that white pillar was such a good visual.
00:35:02
Speaker
that, I don't know, I think like, yeah, it was good spots, not necessarily a great match, but enough memorable spots that it got me excited. I will say, I like the finish. The finishes, they're dog collar to each other, right? And they, Janela and Sawyer get on like a- Scissor lift. A scissor lift, which again, sounds like something that would be the claims next finisher, but-
00:35:33
Speaker
But they just raise it up. Right. Which is on its own kind of nothing. But of course you realize they're they're going to hang the dudes to them because they only go so far, which is a pretty clever way to do it. I thought, I don't know. Mason just still kind of leaves me cold. I feel like he's getting better at this, but he still leaves me a little bit. Like one team, they beat him. Yeah, I don't know.
00:36:01
Speaker
Like you're right. He I do like him. I think I'm a bigger fan of him than you in facts are, but I've also seen him live a lot less than you guys have. You've had all your booting times with him and I've had zero booting times, booting queens. He's he is one of those guys. He's just he is also just kind of on a lot of shows in the New York area where.
Wrestler Growth and Deathmatch Appreciation
00:36:25
Speaker
Yeah, I maybe struggled because I've been like seeing him work through the gimmick where you're like, I remember the first time you showed up and you're like, you're supposed to be rich and you're wearing white socks with a suit. Come on, man. And then they're like tear away pants and it's like, you know, I'm not judging. I'm just saying the whole gimmick is that you're supposed to be so rich.
00:36:50
Speaker
It's just not working. Me complimenting him makes me think of when I compliment him like, no, crowbar had a pretty good match. He moved to New York, see crowbar 50 times a year. And you tell me that was a good match. Amazing.
00:37:12
Speaker
I did watch the rest of that show. I think the other match worth mentioning was the Freedom champ, Toru against John Wayne Murdoch. I thought they had the, of the death matches on the show, I thought they had the best death match of the night. It was just, John Wayne Murdoch's fucking awesome. And there was actually a moment in it where even though it's only a nine minute match, I legitimately thought John Wayne Murdoch could walk out the Freedom's champion.
00:37:43
Speaker
which would have been fucking cool. Very cool. I mean, you could always do that and just turn it around. I don't know. We do have the it's actually going to be in Atlantic City again, the deathmatch war games freedoms versus GCW.
00:38:01
Speaker
So do we know what the lineup is? We know the, I didn't finish night two, so I don't know if that was announced, but it just said team GCW. And in the list of the freedom, it did list all the freedoms guys. So you have, fuck. What's the guy's name who does the scissor boards? He's the one that kicked the scissors into Jimmy Lloyd's throat a few years ago.
00:38:32
Speaker
But at the very least, Jun Kasai is gonna be part of this deathmatch war games. And I would really like to go see Jun Kasai. Is Despy gonna be involved? That's who I want. Does he officially do anything with freedoms yet? Maybe not, I'm not sure. So Jun Kasai,
00:39:00
Speaker
Masi, Takeda. Takeda. Takeda Takahashi Sasaki. Valento Jack and Turo Sugura. Who they said is the president of Freedoms and also the champion of the company. Hmm. I wonder why. Team GCW we're going to get a Brett Lauderdale.
00:39:30
Speaker
Actually, we should just get all of the wrestling guys who put themselves
Fight TV Content and Humor
00:39:38
Speaker
in the show. So we should get Lauderdale. We should get ICW. We should get fucking... I can't think of his name. Armanto. There's got to be some others out there. Well, and he'd go back all the way, get Jack Sabbath from back in the day. I mean, Danny D'Amanto is at least a trained wrestler.
00:39:59
Speaker
You go watch some of those Jack Sabbath matches and really something. Have you guys clicked around fight TV lately to see all the weird shit they've been added in the wrestling category? No, what's in there?
00:40:16
Speaker
So they've been adding, let me see if I can find some of it. Cause I was clicking through it. They've started adding all of these CZW like compilations, but they're only one hour compilations with three matches and it's less exciting than it sounds. Oh, cause I was going to say, give me an hour of wrestling. That's probably more digestible than like trying to dig through the IWTV archives.
00:40:49
Speaker
a pile of data. Needle in a haystack. You know, I look when if you got if you got two and a half hours to do a deep dive in your Google search and IW TV, I mean worth it. All there.
00:41:09
Speaker
I'm trying to find, okay, there was something called wrestling's bloodiest wars, hazard zone. I clicked that and I think that was more, there's just like so much CZW, but I clicked on something called street thug beatdowns exposed.
00:41:30
Speaker
Yeah, you did. I lost about street-thrugg beatdowns exposed, Garrett. So I was like, is this, because it was listed amongst the CZW. So I said, there is a couple ways this could go when I click on this. This could be bum fights. This could be actual wrestling. This could be, I don't know, just a compilation of world star clips from YouTube.
00:41:59
Speaker
The way it went. And the number one option, of course, would be porn. Like something Rob Black promoted that he accidentally mixed in with the XPW tapes. We uploaded the wrong thing. Nobody noticed. What happened when I clicked on it?
00:42:27
Speaker
It more looked like I was watching live, acted out versions of cut scenes from Grand Theft Auto.
00:42:41
Speaker
It was just like a guy and a girl outside of a shitty motel, waiting for an Uber, acting poorly where you're like, this acting kind of sucks. Is this wrestling? What the fuck am I watching? And I never even saw anyone fight. It just felt like I was watching live, just live versions of acted out. I'm going to actually put that on right now while we're talking just to let you know if we
00:43:08
Speaker
Are wrestlers involved that are recognizable in any way? This looked like guys. No one in this looked like a wrestler and the Uber driver seemed super confused why they were filming when he finally pulled up. You start filming your Uber ride, that's gonna get you two stars. Okay, so I just turned it on.
00:43:36
Speaker
in the corner has the fight by Triller logo. Where the fuck are these guys fighting? Like it's, I'm nine minutes in and it's just still two people. Oh, it's the Uber driver and the guy he picked up bickering in the car. And I think they're going to fight. Oh my God. Guys describing a, if you're describing porn right in here again,
00:43:59
Speaker
I think this is 100% the porn before they fuck. Like I'm clicking through and it's saying beat down number seven. And it is like, it looks like they're where we watch GCW in Chicago or in Schomburg or wherever the hell we are for all out weekends. They're in the sports arena. Just playing kickball. And I think all these guys are gonna bang. As I'm clicking through here, I'm like, Oh my God, here's heater.
00:44:34
Speaker
Well, I didn't want to talk about this. Yeah, this is your dark side of wrestling.
00:44:43
Speaker
I think Chris is in the background looking for the thug beat. Street thug beatdowns exposed. So the way you were describing it sounded like NPC interactions in GTA. Would you rather watch the guys in the background do stuff and not follow the main characters? Yes.
00:45:06
Speaker
Yeah, I was, I will say I didn't find it, but the, um, I feel like, I feel like fight plus is getting weirder. Like some of the wrestling companies pulled out and now they're just like, they're just throwing stuff at a wall. Who pulled out? Well, I feel like house of glory hasn't been on there in a bit. Um, and I really just like filling a void where they're like, well,
00:45:33
Speaker
all this DJ Hyde said we could have all this old CZW footage or whatever. But it's just DJ Hyde's like DVD collection at his house. They all have him in it. Yeah, for sure. Oh, because I haven't seen the XPW come up lately.
00:45:53
Speaker
They haven't had anything. The only way I know XPW is working is when they pop up on fight. And if they're backing out of fight, then what's going on over here? All the money is going to Lauderdale, I think is really the answer here. Well, there's shit popping up here that is... It looks like a boxing match, but it appears that it's Kaiju fighting.
00:46:25
Speaker
Like, I don't think any of this is even real. I think they just have posters, and if you click on it, it actually doesn't lead to real videos anymore. Some sort of weird Ponzi scheme by fight TV. It did show that you can watch Despy and Mox in Nashville now. That show is for free on here. It's a money laundering operation at this point.
00:46:54
Speaker
I'm glad I can participate. It gives me street cred. And with your $50 donation, we are able to launch $50 of dirty money. They're like, what are you doing, Garrett? Crime.
00:47:18
Speaker
I'm just imagining you testifying in a Rico case regarding watching Street Thug beatdown. Did you think this was something they were actually trying to get you to pay money for? Look, sir, I'm a wrestling fan. I've watched a lot of weird stuff. They told me it was wrestling and I clicked on it and I figured what's the worst that happens.
00:47:44
Speaker
And I end up in jail. And I'm like, Trump got charged with like 20 things. And I watched Doug beatdowns exposed. No one believes you, Garrett. Everyone knows you were intentionally money laundering. Sir, I'm a wrestling fan who bought the Control Your Narrative comic book.
00:48:06
Speaker
Show us the comic book and you're off. You won't go to jail. Oh, fuck. EC3, you don't understand. You've got to draw this for me. Okay, seven more dollars and maybe I'll sit there. Okay, seven more dollars in a box of colored pencils. This is a good way to develop a not guilty by reason of insanity plea.
00:48:36
Speaker
This man told me my narrative would be controlled. All right, sir. All right. You don't have to keep going on this. He sent me spices. The spice man said he would draw me a comic book. This is wrestling, sir. Yes, yes, of course.
00:49:06
Speaker
I hope they bring that back for WrestleMania next year.
Future Wrestling Plans and Live Matches
00:49:11
Speaker
What, just control your narrative? Yeah. Yeah. We can probably buy the name off of them for $7 in a box of colored pencils. What do you think the tape library's going for? Oh my god. They're like, if you can find it, you can have it. That's what it's going for.
00:49:33
Speaker
Uh, heater. Do you need, are you going to be in, um, in Philly, WrestleMania weekend? Do you think you're going to be around? Do you need three little guys? Hey, listen, I could always use three little guys. Listen, we'll cheat to win. Well, that's what we'll do. We'll just, we'll hand you light tubes and then just run away.
00:49:59
Speaker
Light tubes would then shield yourselves. Holy shit. Speaking of light tubes in that night one, um, I don't remember who Rena fought, but the, the freedoms guy came out with a samurai sword. And when he finally partway through the math, pulled it out of the sheath, it was a light tube with a samurai sword handle. What? How?
00:50:27
Speaker
I don't know, but it looked like it wasn't just duct taped. It looked like it looked custom. Did he take it out real, real, real slow? Yeah, he did it like it was a samurai movie. Oh, man. Where do you get one of those? It's got to be a guy. There's everyone's that guys. You got to have a real good guy, you know.
00:50:53
Speaker
A solid guy. Yeah, like it's one thing to be like, I got a suit guy. You're like, no, I got a samurai sword light tube guy. That's that's great. That's a unique guy to have gone to get.
00:51:09
Speaker
Peter, what have you been watching lately? Have you been studying tape? Or have you been just enjoying anything recreationally? So, recreationally, I mean, we obviously went to AEW. It aired this last Friday. I think that I've been this... Like, I'm not the biggest Lucha fan. Like, it's just not really my cup of tea. I don't know why. I've just never really... It's not been something that I've really delved too much into. But that commander...
00:51:39
Speaker
Ray Phoenix match was one of the best matches I've ever seen live. That match was amazing. Did you end up catching that, Chris? I did. That's one I'd love to go back and see all the way through without the commercial breaks, because I was like, I don't think those guys just sat in a chinlock. No. I wonder if they cut the length down too, because they really had some time.
00:52:06
Speaker
I would notice that because at Grand Slam last year, Phoenix wrestled, I think it was Jungle Boy. And I remember at the end of the match going like, there's no way they're showing all of that on Rampage. And I think again, they like cut it down at least like several minutes out of it. So yeah, maybe they did the same or they like Ray Phoenix is just like, I'm gonna go as long as I want. You cut it up however you need for TV, but I'm just gonna go out there and have fun. He's so fucking good.
00:52:37
Speaker
Like, I think he's a guy that he's been around AEW long enough that, I don't know, we keep getting new luchadores coming through and it feels like we just keep getting a new toy. And I feel like I haven't continually appreciated Ray Phoenix as much as I should have. That was my favorite mention that I saw at that show. Yeah. Also, by the way, 100% cut the mask gift piece.
00:53:05
Speaker
really that wasn't even on tv that was just like that was just for us what else have i been watching um i'm not i'm not really i listen we've been dog setting all week this week so i've been like watching this dog and like interacting with this dog if i'm being all the way honest
00:53:29
Speaker
And that's why Bobby Beverly's gonna stomp your goddamn head in because he hasn't been watching any dogs this weekend. He's fully rested. I hope we gotta get him drunk. I did wrestle up a paradigm and I got to interact in the ring with filthy Tom Lawler.
00:53:50
Speaker
Okay, cool. That was really, really fun. Uh, uh, we got, we got to, we got to simultaneously chop a guy and I chopped a guy so well, Tom Waller told me to chop him again. He likes to chops. Yeah. Who else, uh, who was in the match with you? So it was, uh, so it was the finals of the heavy hitters tournament. Um, and so they kind of do this, like,
00:54:17
Speaker
That's an Indiana way. Yeah, an Indiana. Jeffersonville. The world-famous arena where Ian Rotten paid
00:54:27
Speaker
or did not pay many wrestlers. The hallowed halls. You can still find Ian Rotten's Hep C in a corner somewhere if you look hard on it. Don't be in the laundry with that shoes on.
00:54:52
Speaker
But I but it so the end is kind of like a battle royal gauntlet royal rumble gauntlet like every two minutes somebody comes out and then it's like the eliminations are via pinfall or submission and I don't remember everybody who was in it because I remember the people who enter when I was in it That Was bravado Magnum CK
00:55:21
Speaker
Dustin Leonard, Tom Lawler. Does Tankman still do Paradigm? Not so much anymore. Is he still over it? He generally... He tends to do Nap now more than anything. Because Nap Town All-Pro kind of has its... It's a lot of the same, but Tankman helps with Nap Town.
MLW's Challenges and Nostalgia with Raven's Flock
00:55:49
Speaker
that tends to be where he focuses in his energy. I miss that guy. He was such a big presence over the pandemic. Yeah. And then just sort of disappeared. I mean, I'm sure he's still wrestling. Where'd he go, MLW? Yeah, he went to MLW for a bit. And given MLW's track record,
00:56:16
Speaker
They they're not they're not super great about Building characters sometimes They get they can build like maybe one two guys at a time. But when they got like Unfortunately, I think that he went in at a time where where there were they brought in five or six people and they're trying to build everybody at once and People get lost in the shuffle and tankins way better than to be lost in the shuffle
00:56:47
Speaker
Chris is our resident MLW expert. Geez, I don't feel like an expert. It does seem like they're pushing Alex Kane pretty hard though. So that's probably the issue. No, which he's fine. But yeah, like, I mean, they're making, they were making him, they were building up the, and to an extent they were building up, you know, the second gear crew. So yeah, it doesn't feel like tank. Part of the, I think the thing that might've killed tank men is that that guy, EJ and Duka, he was teaming with in MLW. I think they were the tag champs.
00:57:17
Speaker
And then in Dooka left, you know, for, I guess for AEW, they haven't really used him much, but that might've kind of slowed him down. Cause it was like, you know, they were building up to me, maybe do a match between the two of them. I don't know. But that's all dead. And, you know, Right. I mean, they're building the new Ravens flock. Right. So, you know, Akira's out here with two championships.
00:57:47
Speaker
And here is in the new flock. Yeah. Yeah. I saw the cure. He was the new sick boy. I bet that's a thing he never had on his like pro wrestling bingo card is that it's that at some point he would be a member of the flock. He's the light heavyweight champion. He might be the new Billy Kidman. It was my guy.
00:58:15
Speaker
Yeah. And isn't he a tag champ right now too? I think it's him and Ricky Shane. That's a fun tag team. Listen, all I'm asking for is just bring me in and I'll be the new Van Hammer. You'll wear a mesh tank top, you don't care. Yeah, I don't mind. I will throw a mesh tank top on. Have you met Raven? I have not met Raven.
00:58:43
Speaker
I want to. Sounds like you got a connection. Just start hassling Akira. The flock was never just three guys, you know, like there was there was a handful of guys. I'm just saying I've got some flannel shirts. Yeah, yeah. I'll be your Scotty Riggs. I'll be your Van Hammer. I don't care.
00:59:10
Speaker
You two can do one show a month and like a month's worth of pretapes. You're ready for it. All the bits. That is how many flannels I have. I'll change flannel each time. I got a bunch of flannels. You need me to do 10 different pretapes to make it seem like different weeks. I'm here. I'm ready to do it. PSA thinks you seem too suspicious for how many flannels are in your bag. How long you going to New York for? Two days.
00:59:42
Speaker
believe it if you were going to Seattle, but I hear a story. It gets cold. Don't worry about it. I'm going to go see cause they're doing, uh, uh, the Melrose ballroom again in December. So any wrestling again,
Local Wrestling Events and Impact Wrestling Interest
01:00:03
Speaker
Just like Garrett with the NWA, any wrestling that I can pay like $20 for and take a train two stops to get to, I'm pretty much going to go. It's not that bad. You don't have to park anywhere. You're good to go. I'm not even going to have to watch Tyrus wrestle.
01:00:22
Speaker
That fucking sucks. I might have to watch Tyrus wrestle next Tuesday. Like I'm going to spend the rest of the week dreading that my day off is going to go to watching that shit. Like I have been to a handful of those shows.
01:00:40
Speaker
and they're never very good. Like, I feel, I mean. Do they serve booze at the Skyway Studios? No, it's a TV studio. You have to sit there and just let it happen to you sober. You have to, you get no lubrication. You got a raw dog NWA. Yep. Same with impact.
01:01:09
Speaker
Like when we were going to those impact shows, fucking Kenny Omega was wrestling at those. Yeah. Like there was, there was good stuff happening at those. And I honestly, like if impact came back through town and the tickets weren't insane, I would gladly go watch impact. There's a bunch of good people over there, but NWA, like, I mean, I like Vampiro at some point, you know, um, I don't know.
01:01:40
Speaker
You should like put up like a predetermined sign on the rail or something but a they might take it from you and be I'm not sure that's our target audience Garrett Honestly, it maybe is People who like to watch shitty wrestling
01:02:01
Speaker
It says the guys who sat through like that two hour thunder and like had to figure out a way to talk the whole time. But these are people that are going to two days of NWA TV tapings and have to pull enthusiasm out of their body and that they paid to do. They're going to watch squash. You with them, Garret. You're going to watch NWA squashes.
01:02:34
Speaker
I was going
01:02:49
Speaker
The best one I was at was the one that Cody fought. Cody fought, what's his name for the second time? Fought Aldous for the second time. That wasn't a taping, that was some anniversary thing. That was like a pay per view, yeah. And that was at the fairgrounds, a cool venue, they did sell booze. Jim Cornette was sitting behind me on commentary and Billy Corgan was walking around in like a hoodie turtleneck thing. Those are, that's just always the most bizarre part.
01:03:19
Speaker
is that such a famous person from the 90s is just walking around something where it's like, there are so many better things to do in Nashville on any given night than be it that. I'm sorry, I feel bad shitting on NWA so much, but seeing the way he talks about it, he should at least be a little self-deprecating with what his purchase was.
01:03:47
Speaker
You're saying that he should show more regret than he does. Yeah. Like if he was like, yeah, kind of like if he was funny about it, I'd be like, I'm going to tune into that. But like he says it with all sincerity that it's going to be the next big promotion. And like, I have watched the shittiest shit at some of these shows. Well, also the fact that he's still working on the type with the tires thing, like. It was clearly not going to work, right? I think we all knew that.
01:04:16
Speaker
putting your title on the Fox News commentator guy was probably not going to change the world. But even if you thought to yourself, well, it's worth a shot. Aren't we like six months in at this point? I don't think anything's happened, right? It's not like people were like showing up in droves to see Tyrus. I mean, like,
01:04:36
Speaker
Just give it up. What you don't know is that every wrestling promoter meets once a month for dinner. And Vince McMahon comes to all of these. And he always sits next to Billy Corgan, huge pumpkins guy, because his cultural references stop somewhere in the late 90s. And as they sit there, he's like, hey, man.
01:05:00
Speaker
Everybody told me that they didn't want to watch Roman Reigns, but we shoved it down their throat for seven years. And look where we're at now. Keep giving the fuck a source chances. Six and a half more years, man. And you'll get them. You'll get them. I will say we could mention briefly that AEW is going to run a show in front of like 80,000 people this weekend.
Anticipation for Upcoming AEW Events
01:05:27
Speaker
Holy shit, on my kid's birthday, Heater's coming over to watch it. All right, I'm going with, I'm going to hang out with my buddy, Tom. I can get my daughter to watch at least 20 minutes of it, because Aussie Open's going to be involved. We'll see how much rest of it she sticks with, but. Do we potentially want to do some pickums? Yeah, I think, because I do think,
01:05:54
Speaker
The build to the show has been a little bit weird, but they do legitimately have me interested in the finish to the main event. Right. I don't know where they're going with that. I, I guess MJF retains, but I don't know. Maybe not. If you want to have 80,000 plus people shouting Adam Colby Bay at the same time, right? Be a good visual. Right. Well, I guess I'll go, I'll go.
01:06:21
Speaker
I guess I'll go MJF then, if we're doing a pickup, I'll go MJF. I think MJF retains. I mean, I kind of want to go the other way just to be like, well, and have a debate, but it just doesn't seem like the time or the person to take the title off of MJF.
01:06:42
Speaker
Like he's still so good and him doing something shitty to Adam Cole could get us out of funny MJF and back into really mean shitty MJF again. I don't know if they want to do that though. That's the question. That again, that's why this is really interesting is it feels like they have set up a lot of potential different paths that and none of them seem like the obvious answer right now, which is kind of cool. Yeah.
01:07:10
Speaker
young bucks against FTR. Don't cut cash wheeler off in traffic, I'll tell you that. It's what we learned in the last week. Of course the FTR guys have guns under their car seat. I mean, look, if anybody on that roster is gonna have a gun, it's big Bill and those guys.
01:07:41
Speaker
FTR is the only guys bringing guns to superkick parties. We'll see. I do wonder if that makes it more likely that the Bucks take this match because none of them have been indicted recently. Until Cash Wheeler had to appear in front of a judge, I would have said that CM Punk's friends were going to retain heat.
01:08:10
Speaker
I don't know. That's a big week. What a way to sell a pay-per-view cash. Hear me out. We're going to, we're going to try to sell at Wembley stadium about a month before that. I'm going to need you to get arrested. WWE does it all the time with the Usos. Just come on.
01:08:41
Speaker
Let's shoot by the USO standards. He's like seven behind. I mean, really, this is... Let's catch up, guys. Come on, you know. He's like, we main evented the pay-per-view last time. He's like, do it six or seven more times, and you'll be the main event, guys. Meanwhile, the Young Bucks drive like no more than five miles an hour over the speed limit.
01:09:17
Speaker
And Jeff Hardy's in the background like, I'm going for a world title shot. Fuck, they couldn't even put the fucking Texas Chainsaw Massacre title on that guy. They didn't even put the Leatherface Championship on him. Too risky, too risky.
01:09:39
Speaker
Uh, Jericho against Osprey, which it's not for the UK, the US slash UK title. Right. So I don't, they haven't said anything about that yet. Maybe they're going to say that this week. Cause if it's for that, I mean, Osprey is winning. I think they setting up for a wrestle. I mean, cause you would assume that they would want to do Kenny versus him at wrestle kingdom. But I mean, maybe they are setting up for something to get Jericho back into new Japan, or at least for wrestle kingdom next year.
01:10:09
Speaker
I mean, that'd be an option. Yeah. Um, cause you gotta think they're gonna go heavy on the AWW guys for wrestle kingdom. Um, given that it seems like their main event is Naito and Sonata, which is good, but not exactly gonna, I think light the world on fire. But if the undercard is like Okada against mocks, you know, it'll do. Um, and like Kenny Omega is involved. I like, I think, I think we'll all,
01:10:40
Speaker
stay up until the night for Wrestle Kingdom. I got to go Osprey in that one. I mean, I'm sure that everybody else is. I just can't imagine that Chris Jericho is going to win a match in 2023 against arguably the best wrestler going currently. I don't know, man. It's Chris Jericho. I think there's a, I think there's a decent shot. I think, I think Osprey is the favorite, but I believe Jericho put himself over.
01:11:08
Speaker
for a rematch. I mean, he'll go, he'll take the, he'll drop the fall in the rematch, but. It's like, are you kidding me? I do flips. Have you seen this move? I just bring off the second rope.
01:11:21
Speaker
I don't know, do you, what do you think the setup for this is going to be like? Do you think they're going to go big and make it look like a WrestleMania or, or is this just going to, cause it seems like they were just trying to sell as many tickets as possible. It seemed like the stage setup was very small and let for a lot of seats to happen right there. So I'm very curious. They can't have a giant setup, right? Because otherwise they wouldn't be able to sell that number of tickets.
01:11:49
Speaker
like a summer slam 92 like a super long ramp. Yeah, I mean, I am excited about it. I think you're right that the build to it has been has left a little something to be desired kind of like the the forbidden door we went to where it was just like everything happened a week before. But I don't know. I'm excited about. Oh, yeah, we have the.
01:12:13
Speaker
What a fuck, Stadium Stampede. Live Stadium Stampede. That's gonna be something special. Well, I think here's the interesting thing with that is that we throw out picks here, but who are the BCC partners here? Who? How far out's Daniel Bryan at this point? I think there's no way. Apparently, if he was healthy, it was gonna be him and Omega. I really don't know who the partners are.
01:12:44
Speaker
I like, again, part of the fun thing I think is they've opened up enough avenues where there's a lot of plausible, interesting guys like Shooter, Despy, Suzuki, could be Ishii. If we have Jun Kasai in a stadium stampede match,
01:13:02
Speaker
on a pay-per-view. I don't think it will be, but God, that would be glorious. I don't think, I mean, at this point, it doesn't matter. The tickets are sold. Just give us a good match and everybody will forgive. Just imagine June Kasai and Moxley running at Eddie, bleeding as they're running.
01:13:32
Speaker
The Blabie Bros would be a great tag team. It could be Mustache Mountain could be British guys. It could be or it could just be three random AEW guys we're not thinking of, which would also probably be fine. There's a million guys in that roster. Butcher Blade and Kip Sabian. That would be the most lackluster.
01:14:02
Speaker
Yeah, it would be a time that I would certainly be disappointed to see one of my favorite guitarists appear anywhere. Bring those guys out and E.C. just runs them over. With a car.
01:14:19
Speaker
Ishi would be a good one. I mean, it seems like they're using the same New Japan guys over and over again. So it doesn't seem like introducing New Japan, New New Japan characters. And I would assume that it's a lot cheaper to get people to London than it is to get them to the States. So. Plus plus a sting coffin match, which the over under the over under is on the minutes of Garrett's laughter.
01:14:49
Speaker
I will, hey, I will come on here and I will give you a runtime of laughter if any stinging thing happens. That's the content we need. Sting is my guy. Sting is my guy. He is. He is the Logan Paul of AEW. I don't even know what that means, but I do love it.
01:15:21
Speaker
Oh, fuck. Well, should we what else we have? We have the Kenny and a bougie and hangman. They're going to win. They're going to win. Yeah, almost certainly. Yeah, you don't. Juice Robinson is just lucky to be there. He's not beating Kenny Omega. He's going to take a pen from Kenny Omega.
01:15:40
Speaker
Juice is definitely there to eat the pin. Uh, yes. That's been his, although he's done a re I feel like he's, yeah, he's having a great run as that guy in AW where you're like, Oh, you're definitely there to lose a hundred percent, but it doesn't really matter. My, my love and appreciation for you is exactly the same juice.
01:16:03
Speaker
Juice is so good at his role right now that I forget sometimes that he's just the enhancement guy. That's how I feel about Chuck Taylor in AEW. Hey, Chucky made the show, which I think is a big win.
01:16:21
Speaker
In like, this is a perfect match for Chuck Taylor. Like this time, a stadium stampede match with Chuck Taylor is a thing I never thought I'd get to see. So thank you, Tony Khan. Like this, this product continues to give and give. I should mention the other people, people have thrown out for this are Santana and Ortiz, which would be a pretty fun spot to redebut them.
01:16:51
Speaker
and it would make a lot of sense against Eddie with the BCC guys who they were teaming with, kind of with Eddie, right back in the last, whatchamacallit, last go round of things. So I could see that. It would make a lot of sense. I hadn't even considered that. Honestly, I kind of just assumed they were done a little bit, because one of them got in a fight with the other one.
01:17:21
Speaker
Well, they don't like each other very much anymore, according to everyone, but Santana is back in, at least Santana's apparently maybe ready to return soon, so. Time heals all wounds. Ace Steel has a job. Ace Steel has a job and he doesn't even have to go anywhere. I mean, he's getting a paycheck sitting at home. Well, he's remote. Perm remote.
01:17:50
Speaker
I just want to come back in office. It's not like I pulled a fucking gun on somebody. If I did that, they would have made me champ around here. All right, guys, I think that's- All I brought to that Superkick party was my mouth.
01:18:20
Speaker
OK, guys, I think that's where we wrap this up. That was a that's a that's that's. All right, everybody, thanks so much for listening this week. Be sure to go to if you're in Nashville, the Cobra Friday night, nine o'clock, twenty dollars at the door, fifteen dollars in advance. Hardway Heater will be there. Matt Justice will be there.
01:18:42
Speaker
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01:19:09
Speaker
Come back next week, see how much we laughed at Sting, hopefully a lot. Bigger venue, bigger laughs, that's what I'm thinking. All right, hit our God dammit.