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Episode 163 - Bigger Badder Wolfer
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This week on the premier comedy roller coaster podcast Ben and Zach discuss Big Bad Wolf the Revenge at busch Gardens Williamsburg, Kingda Ka at Six Flags Great Adventure and much more!
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Humorous Bidet Discussions
00:00:42
urfavoritecoastersux
I'm Zach and I want to own up a bidet.
00:00:48
Ben
I'm Ben and I... I'd get a bidet. I had one for a while. They're nice.
00:00:59
urfavoritecoastersux
Bidet mate, how are you? That was so stupid, I'm sorry. um
00:01:06
Ben
i What's funny is there's actually a brand of bidet called the Astor. A-S-T-O-R. It's short for Astor.
00:01:20
urfavoritecoastersux
That, like, I always thought they were funny until I tried one. And then I was like, ah, this is living.
00:01:32
Ben
Yeah, I mean, well, the thing is that there's, you know, the, the fountain bidets, but then what's weird is the, in like Italy, they all have bidets, but they're not, it's literally just like a sink without a sprayer. So it's basically a, so like a sink that you squat over.
00:01:54
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, that's the kind I tried.
00:01:57
Ben
And it's like kind of weird because then you're just thinking like, all right, how many people have been, you know, splashing their, their Dookie water all over this thing. And then you just feel like it's kind of squat over it and use your hand. And then it's just, there's like towels hanging up there. It's like, what towel do I use? I throw the towel away.
00:02:27
Ben
It's
00:02:28
urfavoritecoastersux
yeah yeah it's well okay i will say having to like strip down the lower half just to clean up afterwards is not the most convenient but and that was a well-placed unintentional pun um it does it takes a lot of the
00:02:41
Ben
Yeah, exactly.
00:02:58
urfavoritecoastersux
dirty work yeah out of it.
00:03:02
Ben
Well, there is also a ratio of of wipe to spray. So like, you don't want to spray too fast without using any paper. because then you get, you know, the byproduct.
00:03:15
Ben
But you also don't just want to go for, you know, there's a science to it.
Podcast Introduction & Roller Coasters
00:03:21
Ben
It's just something.
00:03:21
urfavoritecoastersux
Isn't well, isn't that what the Japanese toilets are designed for specifically?
00:03:27
Ben
I think so, but like it'd be nice if there was a way to suction because like it's just sort of pools. It just gets like your whole ass wet.
00:03:38
urfavoritecoastersux
Well, yeah, but that's why you got to come around with the toilet paper to dry things up and to finish up the job, you know.
00:03:38
Ben
It's
00:03:45
Ben
Yeah, but you know, but like, you know, and it's like the, you know, use toilet paper to dry things, it just starts like disintegrating it like
00:03:53
urfavoritecoastersux
Well, yeah, but you like finishing up. All right. I think we're we're getting too into the weeds about this.
Tech, Social Media, and Apple
00:04:03
urfavoritecoastersux
Welcome back to your favorite coaster sucks, where today we are talking shit, obviously.
00:04:11
urfavoritecoastersux
I had to get one more in. ah We are in our roller coaster podcast, if you couldn't tell by the first three and a half minutes of the day talk.
00:04:12
Ben
just
00:04:20
urfavoritecoastersux
Talking bidets. Just two buds talking bidets.
00:04:27
Ben
I've always, I always had an idea where if you you take a, what's the Xbox VR thing, you know, I'm talking about where it shoots like 200 lasers and it, uh, like maps your entire room in like a 3d space.
00:04:46
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, what was that, Connect or whatever?
00:04:48
Ben
Yeah. The connect. All you gotta to do is take a k connect sensor, and put it on the back and they could auto aim for your asshole.
00:05:01
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, and then you could like tweak. You could use AI to tweak the pressure.
00:05:10
Ben
Yeah, I can analyze the, uh, I can analyze the load and then just ah adjust based on, you know,
00:05:20
urfavoritecoastersux
Consistency, weight.
00:05:21
Ben
yeah.
00:05:23
urfavoritecoastersux
Duration.
00:05:27
Ben
Yeah, I think that's a good idea. I'm, I'm actually surprised. Uh, if AI, if AI gets the bidet. and takes on big toilet paper, that's going to be pretty fun.
00:05:43
urfavoritecoastersux
uh bidet i and look yo i live in san francisco now so i feel like i'd better get on getting some money for this fuck that i think we have an idea here that we need to go take to some uh some investors
00:05:55
Ben
I mean, usually those startups are so desperate for bodies. Like you could probably land a job as like a ah tester.
00:06:15
urfavoritecoastersux
as the hot thing now.
00:06:19
Ben
there was There was something, I don't remember what it was, but it was just called Gay Eye, and I thought that was funny.
00:06:28
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh.
00:06:32
Ben
Yeah, here we go.
00:06:34
urfavoritecoastersux
Is it like a. Is it like a um grinder, but worse?
00:06:42
Ben
Probably, oh, I hear it.
00:06:44
urfavoritecoastersux
That was the pitch exactly.
00:06:50
Ben
More opportunities for ad revenue though.
00:06:53
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, exactly.
00:06:56
Ben
Oh dude, I forgot what.
00:06:58
urfavoritecoastersux
700 times more bots.
00:07:02
Ben
Oh dude, trying to control, trying to copy paste on ah on a Mac is.
00:07:10
Ben
holy
00:07:12
urfavoritecoastersux
OK, I'm going to I'm going to be honest here since we're having the Mac talk. I i am probably more open to switching to an all Apple ecosystem now than I ever have been before.
00:07:26
Ben
Why's that?
00:07:29
urfavoritecoastersux
We got an Apple TV recently.
00:07:33
Ben
But I mean, that's just a TV.
00:07:36
urfavoritecoastersux
But it's awesome.
00:07:36
Ben
Like it is nice. It is better than a Roku, but, um, yeah, yeah.
00:07:43
urfavoritecoastersux
and it integrates perfectly with my phone and watch.
00:07:52
Ben
I think this is like, I just don't like how every time I use one, I feel like there's something that is prohibited or like, like, like today, I was trying to use this microphone and you'd think, Oh, Apple, it's such great products.
00:08:09
Ben
It's so super easy and stuff. And like, turns out the Mac, the microphone just doesn't work.
00:08:16
urfavoritecoastersux
Really?
00:08:17
Ben
Yeah. It took like, it was like a whole thing. And then it was like, Oh, actually. So the only way to get the microphone to work is to plug it in through the monitor.
00:08:29
Ben
But like, you can't just select devices. It's not like a windows where you plug something in and it's like, Oh, maintain devices and you know, microphones and stuff like they have an audio input section, but like, you can't just search for devices.
00:08:45
urfavoritecoastersux
interesting oh yeah I remember
00:08:47
Ben
It's the same problem I had with, um, on the iPad. Where I was trying to figure out how to do the microphone thing. Um, and it didn't work.
00:09:02
Ben
So there's just stuff like, I mean, there's just things like that, that I don't know. I feel like, like very basic things you just can't do on a Mac, which is frustrating. But if you're like a graphic designer, it works or music or.
00:09:18
Ben
creatives. Do you see the link for Astor bidets?
00:09:26
urfavoritecoastersux
Let me take a look.
00:09:29
urfavoritecoastersux
And I'll take the opportunity to say, if anyone wants the link, it will be available um on our Discord.
00:09:39
Ben
i Look at this.
00:09:39
urfavoritecoastersux
If anyone's considering the Switch, that picture is great, the first picture. 10 to 10, no notes.
00:09:48
urfavoritecoastersux
That pretty much is how I felt. That picture encapsulates exactly how I felt the first time I tried a bidet.
Roller Coaster Highlights & Park Reflections
00:09:59
Ben
I love the second.
00:09:59
urfavoritecoastersux
save time and money I don't know about time but yes money increase health and well-being I suppose not having to um reach back there
00:10:04
Ben
It looks like they're holding like 1950 era, like $100 bills. And they got the kid counting on it too, like.
00:10:30
urfavoritecoastersux
does something for the but that's that's fascinating that you can't even buy it on there
00:10:34
Ben
As a company, we aspire to create products which provide our customers with the best possible quality. And then it looks like the bottom of the website's broken.
00:10:47
Ben
That's it. There's nothing on this.
00:10:56
urfavoritecoastersux
You're like, damn it, I want to increase my money and well-being. So, um well, I guess we got to we got to talk about the big thing that got announced today as of the day of recording.
00:11:18
Ben
Millennium Force got a paint job.
00:11:21
urfavoritecoastersux
Yep.
00:11:22
Ben
Nice.
00:11:23
urfavoritecoastersux
That as well.
00:11:28
urfavoritecoastersux
I mean, love to see it. I don't know.
00:11:35
urfavoritecoastersux
It means it'll be around for a while longer, I guess, you know?
00:11:40
Ben
Yeah, I mean, I think it's i think it's been probably 10 years since it was repainted. I was thinking like how it's crazy how it's been over 10 years since.
00:11:57
Ben
Like I went to opening day in 2014 and that's over 10 years ago. Damn. That's sad.
00:12:04
urfavoritecoastersux
Yep.
00:12:06
Ben
I think it was repainted for 2014 though, if I remember correctly.
00:12:14
Ben
And like the photo of it, it looks pretty bad.
00:12:20
Ben
Oh no, that's what it was. I think it was, what year was that shit? It was maybe it was like 2012. It was either like 2012 or 2013 or something. They like painted just the top sections of the track.
00:12:35
urfavoritecoastersux
Just the tip.
00:12:37
Ben
Yeah, and so they but they left the ground sections. So they basically only gave it like a half paint job. It was actually pretty funny.
00:12:46
urfavoritecoastersux
Watch now they're going back just to do the other half.
00:12:52
Ben
and would be pretty funny I wish I could remember when that was because i it was I remember when I saw it it was like it just looked really cheap even to the point where like even guests were making comments about it like making fun of it if
00:12:56
urfavoritecoastersux
This time the lower parts.
00:13:16
urfavoritecoastersux
and and Cedar Point's like, we can't help it that the fucking painters unionized halfway through.
00:13:32
urfavoritecoastersux
And we we couldn't find any other painters.
00:13:39
Ben
They probably like, they probably got a quote and they're just like, they probably just literally were like, well, what if you just do half of it? Or no, or what was it? I don't know. Um, I don't really remember. It was either, it was one or the other it is either the tall sections or the ground sections. Maybe it was no, maybe it wasn't up in the air. I think it was, they only painted the sections you could see directly from the midway. So it was like.
00:14:09
Ben
The low sections by the paths, but like not the things up ah up high. I think, I think that's actually what it was. That's why it was so funny.
00:14:20
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, that's a good way to cheap out on it because then you don't need crews like going into, you know, probably I would imagine specialized training and equipment needed.
00:14:33
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:38
urfavoritecoastersux
Like, all right, we need we need a crew that's all ground workers to paint.
00:14:49
Ben
So what's the other what's the other big news?
00:14:52
urfavoritecoastersux
Ah, look in the chat my friend.
00:14:55
Ben
Oh.
00:14:57
urfavoritecoastersux
Bush Gardens Williamsburg Announced The Big Bad Wolf The Revenge
00:15:06
Ben
If it's revenge, I better hope it's. More forceful, I thought that maybe this was leaked, I was going to say, I thought I already saw this.
00:15:21
Ben
Oh, this is, okay, this is an official video I see.
00:15:24
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah.
00:15:28
Ben
Until now.
00:15:28
urfavoritecoastersux
So it's a family inverted coaster from B and&M.
00:15:32
Ben
Like a like Phoenix or whatever.
00:15:36
urfavoritecoastersux
Uh, yeah.
00:15:43
Ben
Well, that looks about right for B and&M tracking these days.
00:15:47
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, those clunky transitions.
00:15:51
Ben
Yeah. It's like, man, the limits to it's getting really realistic.
00:16:00
urfavoritecoastersux
I mean Imagine how good you'd have to be at that simulator to be able to like Make the transitions that chunky on purpose so on the plus side I will say ah it's cool that there's like The town the village or whatever
00:16:14
Ben
Mm-hmm.
00:16:30
Ben
Yeah, but like. Is it going to I'm guessing it's not here's the thing you're calling it revenge, which means that it's beginning to be supposed to be like bigger and more badass. But. It's so it's it's like a family, it's cool that it's a family coaster, but I feel like it might be a bad idea to rename it off of Big Bad Wolf because it sets a certain expectation. That might disappoint a lot of people.
00:17:03
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah. But at the same time.
00:17:14
urfavoritecoastersux
It's.
00:17:18
urfavoritecoastersux
It's probably.
Coaster Design & Geometry
00:17:21
urfavoritecoastersux
At this point, the closest you could get to the original design of the big bad wolf.
00:17:31
Ben
Mm hmm.
00:17:31
urfavoritecoastersux
In terms of like. The ride vehicle.
00:17:38
Ben
Yeah, I mean, I think the suspended part is fine. I mean, who knows? Maybe they're maybe the whole. The terrain drop or no, there wouldn't be a terrain drop or they're rebuilding it. At least I don't think so. I was going to say, maybe it was like a surprise drop, but it actually doesn't look like it.
00:17:57
urfavoritecoastersux
I mean, that'd be pretty sweet.
00:18:02
urfavoritecoastersux
I was thinking that too, but I'm like, no, it seems like the parts that they wanted to save or ah like revive of that ride is the German village and stuff.
00:18:17
Ben
Yeah. Okay. So I'm going to look at a POV of Phoenix rising because I, I keep forgetting this ride exists.
00:18:31
urfavoritecoastersux
I think it's gonna be um bigger and better and wolfier.
00:18:39
Ben
Oh, that's good.
00:18:44
urfavoritecoastersux
But I don't know for sure. Don't quote me on that one.
00:18:50
Ben
I mean, it looks it looks like it could be fun. I mean, this doesn't look too bad for, I mean, this looks pretty good for a family coaster.
00:19:02
urfavoritecoastersux
I'm looking it up right now too. Okay. Checking it out.
00:19:16
Ben
I mean, I think those Vekoma ones look better.
00:19:21
urfavoritecoastersux
What, the family ones?
00:19:23
Ben
Yeah. and You know, you know, it's really fun too is, um, there's one, ah one of those that I don't think it's Vekoma. Um, Zamperla, I think it's Zamperla. Um, Zamperla got one of those family inverts and they're actually pretty fun.
00:19:47
urfavoritecoastersux
Interesting.
00:19:50
Ben
Whatever one is at Dino's.
00:19:54
Ben
I only say Zamperla because that's what Thunderbolt and the other stuff in Coney Island is, but that one might be different.
00:20:04
urfavoritecoastersux
All right, this one does look like it could be kind of fun.
00:20:09
Ben
Man, I can see that the skin, I'm watching one video and I can see the guy's legs jiggling from the rattle.
00:20:24
Ben
Like the whole ride. It's just like, I know I went really deep on that last episode, but like, it seems like all of these new B&Ms have got that problem. You can actually, you can kind of hear it too in one of the videos.
00:20:52
urfavoritecoastersux
ah Well,
00:20:56
urfavoritecoastersux
we should go to IAPA and film an interview with them and ask about it.
00:21:08
Ben
You can actually hear the train shuffling like that, like that crack. I don't know. It would describe like a crits, like a cracking sound kind of almost like, almost like the coasters running on trapezoid wheels.
00:21:26
urfavoritecoastersux
I gotta sample that.
00:21:38
urfavoritecoastersux
Trapezoid wheels, okay. That's a DJ name right there.
00:21:38
Ben
that's what it are not trapezoid uh what's a better shit trapezoid wheels how many sides is a trapezoid is it five it's four
00:21:49
urfavoritecoastersux
men another man
00:21:57
urfavoritecoastersux
I think so. OK, that's like a parallelogram then, right?
00:22:11
Ben
It's, um, so the parallelogram has, is basically like a square with two sides at an angle.
00:22:21
urfavoritecoastersux
Yes.
00:22:21
Ben
The trapezoid is the one where the top line is smaller than the bottom line. So they're,
00:22:27
urfavoritecoastersux
OK.
00:22:30
Ben
um,
00:22:32
urfavoritecoastersux
And the the sides are separate angles, right? Like opposite angles.
00:22:35
Ben
yeah. Yeah.
00:22:40
Ben
But the sum of all interior angles equals 360 degrees.
00:22:46
urfavoritecoastersux
Saw that coming.
00:22:53
Ben
What's funny, I don't know why, that reminds me of like high school geometry. Like. We spend more time memorizing the names of things and actually like learning the practicality and like like actually solving for the formulas. like Just looking at this on Wikipedia, some of interior angles is 360 degrees, four edges. And like that's all you really need to know. But it was like so they're so focused on like the name of it. like You need to memorize the name of
Social Media Addiction Critique
00:23:26
Ben
it. Let's spend three days trying to memorize names of things.
00:23:30
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, it's so that like 15 years later, we can make a joke about the shape of the wheels on a podcast.
00:23:39
Ben
true yeah thank you miss Harman who she always she couldn't say salsa she'd always say salsa
00:23:42
urfavoritecoastersux
So be glad. Thank you Public Education System.
00:24:02
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh.
00:24:03
Ben
So like once, probably once a week at our lunch, remember like announcements where they'd read the ah lunch menu and it was like kind of exciting.
00:24:14
urfavoritecoastersux
No, they never did that in my school.
00:24:16
Ben
Oh shit. Yeah. Like every day there was announcements and they would announce what the lunch, uh, thing was. And sometimes it was like chips and salsa. And this teacher would be reading the announcements cause it was like a third period thing she'd always say.
00:24:32
Ben
And also serving chips and salsa.
00:24:42
urfavoritecoastersux
i feel like if that was now that would end up being a tiktok don't fuck with tiktok by the way
00:24:48
Ben
Probably. Classic.
00:25:03
Ben
Me neither.
00:25:06
Ben
i I downloaded Instagram for the first time in in probably like a month to post just some interior photos of everything going on.
00:25:06
urfavoritecoastersux
ah
00:25:16
Ben
And like, I didn't delete it. And then I found myself just like opening it and looking at shit for no reason.
00:25:25
Ben
And I was like, this is so stupid. I was like checking the, like who is looking at the stories and stuff. it It's and stupid.
00:25:35
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh no, it got you.
00:25:38
Ben
And I was like, all right, this shit's off my phone now.
00:25:47
urfavoritecoastersux
Like is social media and the various forms, is that like an elevated form of cult?
00:25:59
Ben
Um.
00:26:02
Ben
Maybe it's, I was going to say, it's like, um, it's, uh, it's an impulse control problem. We're like, they've basically designed technology to tap into a very specific level and type of dopamine that you just cannot, um, it's like, you know, all All like dopamine, like all things like with dopamine have like trade-offs, you know, like, I dunno, like nicotine or cigarettes, right? There's a trade-off to cigarettes and like alcohol, there's trade-offs, right? But like social media is the least invasive to where like the, I mean, there's obviously downsides, but like, there's not really a lot of physical downsides and it's an easy thing to like, it's kind of like hooking yourself up to like a,
00:26:59
Ben
I don't know, like a morphine drip and he was like, zombie doubt.
00:27:07
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah.
00:27:10
Ben
So it's like the most addictive and the most engaging dopamine, but it's also like the least physically harmful of other things you could do. And like they figured it out.
00:27:24
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, that's why I don't fuck with TikTok, because it turns people into like. It's like um I'm Futurama with the Hypno Toad.
00:27:32
Ben
Mm hmm.
00:27:34
urfavoritecoastersux
People just be staring at their fucking phones like it's Hypno Toad.
00:27:37
Ben
Yeah. And what's crazy and what's also crazy too, is that when you point out that to people like, like, you're the problem.
00:27:39
urfavoritecoastersux
um
00:27:50
Ben
And I've noticed I've noticed this. I mean, I like to call out friends who do it because just to kind of like be a dick, but it's always like, you're the problem if you call it out.
00:28:02
urfavoritecoastersux
That's because nobody likes to confront the reality that Mike
00:28:12
urfavoritecoastersux
I don't know that their fucking souls are slowly being sucked out through a fucking rectangle.
00:28:27
urfavoritecoastersux
And I mean, like, for real, because like,
00:28:37
urfavoritecoastersux
It's like, you ever sit there and there's the TV going and then you put your phone on too. And it's like, what the fuck am I doing?
00:28:46
Ben
Yeah. my My classic was always the sitting with like a work laptop with YouTube on a TV and then scrolling on something on my phone.
00:29:01
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, it's, it's like, what the fuck are we doing?
Theme Park Visits & Technology Impact
00:29:04
Ben
Yeah.
00:29:09
urfavoritecoastersux
Which brings it back to, I don't fuck with TikTok.
00:29:14
Ben
Also going, I mean, going foamless into ah into a park is is cool too. So i I have the iPhone SE, which is, I don't think, I think they stopped making them in probably like 2020, I think.
00:29:33
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, old school.
00:29:35
Ben
Yeah. It's like, and it's small. It's like very small and like nothing really works on it. So like you download an app. And it's like super laggy and you like take a picture and it takes thirty three seconds. um But I like it because it's very frustrating, but it's a very good way to like not look at your phone. You know, like if you add that little bit of barrier of hassle to do things, you like tend to use it less. Also, like when I go to a theme park, it drains the battery. So I like force myself like, all right, I'm going to put it on airplane mode.
00:30:11
Ben
Do not disturb so I can just conserve the battery and then like just not pay attention to it when you're in the park. Especially like when you're in a queue line.
00:30:23
Ben
There's something about watching a ride run a hundred times before you go ride it versus like, I don't know, doing something dumb like discord.
00:30:36
Ben
Just kidding. Join our discord.
00:30:39
urfavoritecoastersux
No, Discord's awesome. Yes, definitely join the Discord. That's, uh, we've, uh, our, our social media uses, uh, our accounts are, you know, I wouldn't call them inactive, but they really aren't much. You want our community, it's on Discord, which is free to join. Link is in the description for all of y'all.
00:31:11
urfavoritecoastersux
Fucking shit.
00:31:13
Ben
No way.
00:31:14
urfavoritecoastersux
What?
00:31:16
Ben
As somehow 20 minutes ago, apparently there's going to be an iPhone SE4.
00:31:23
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, damn.
00:31:28
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, I'm due for a new phone because I have a 12.
00:31:33
Ben
It's not too old. That's like, was that the 2021 model?
00:31:37
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, 2020.
00:31:41
Ben
Okay.
00:31:47
Ben
See, we're talking about the models of our phones.
00:31:50
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh my god. The fuck is wrong with us, Ben?
00:31:54
Ben
We should be comparing.
00:31:57
urfavoritecoastersux
Fucking millennials.
00:31:58
Ben
I know we should be comparing coaster counts.
00:32:03
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, I still haven't broken 500.
00:32:07
Ben
Have you been to any of the California parks?
00:32:10
urfavoritecoastersux
Not yet, but this weekend we're going to Magic Mountain.
00:32:13
Ben
Nice.
00:32:17
urfavoritecoastersux
We were gonna go last weekend, but I was catching a cold. So I was like, that's not a good time to go to a park.
00:32:28
Ben
Yeah, it's not worth it.
00:32:30
urfavoritecoastersux
Nah. But yeah, we'll be at Magic Mountain, which is gonna be awesome, cause holy shit.
00:32:46
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, I haven't been to a park since August.
00:32:54
Ben
Okay.
00:32:55
urfavoritecoastersux
When I was at Disneyland.
00:32:59
Ben
I mean, how are you guys gonna stay the night?
00:33:03
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, we're going to drive out Saturday morning. And then go Saturday. Stay at one of the hotels across the highway.
00:33:16
urfavoritecoastersux
and then go Sunday morning and then drive back.
00:33:20
Ben
Nice.
00:33:24
urfavoritecoastersux
Cause yeah, it's it's a five hour drive so it's not bad at all.
00:33:32
Ben
Yeah, that's, that's pretty doable. I mean, especially for a park like that, I mean.
00:33:37
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh yeah. Yeah. And what's really great is that we have our legacy VIP plus whatever memberships VIP diamond VIP memberships with the dining plan.
00:33:50
Ben
Yeah.
00:33:54
urfavoritecoastersux
So we get, uh, you know, free food at the parks and admission and parking.
00:34:05
urfavoritecoastersux
and the hotel we booked has a continental breakfast, so I'm pretty sure if we do it right, we should be able to do the whole thing for the cost of the hotel and gas.
00:34:16
Ben
Nice.
00:34:20
urfavoritecoastersux
Which is dope.
00:34:24
Ben
I feel like we've definitely done a lot of continental breakfast bits, but what kind of, what hotel is it?
00:34:29
urfavoritecoastersux
I think Best Western is the one we got.
00:34:33
Ben
Okay.
00:34:36
Ben
I'm not sure what theirs is like. Cause sometimes like, have you ever had the the disappointing continental breakfast where it's like a toaster? a loaf of bread oatmeal, oatmeal packets.
00:34:50
urfavoritecoastersux
And like.
00:34:53
urfavoritecoastersux
Individually wrapped plain bagels.
00:34:55
Ben
Mm hmm.
00:34:56
urfavoritecoastersux
With no cream cheese.
00:34:59
Ben
Sometimes a box of like, intimate, intimate or intimate. intimates
00:35:06
urfavoritecoastersux
Intamin.
00:35:09
Ben
Donuts were like the chocolate and the powdered sugar ones are gone and the only one left are the.
00:35:13
urfavoritecoastersux
The cinnamon.
00:35:16
Ben
Yeah.
00:35:17
urfavoritecoastersux
Fucking cinnamon.
00:35:21
urfavoritecoastersux
yeah and like it's like a bottle of juice and some glasses that's when you just like nope the fuck out and go buy some
00:35:36
Ben
I feel like that happened at our. Wasn't the breakfast at the hotel that we were at for over for Fiesta Texas, like kind of like that.
00:35:49
urfavoritecoastersux
oh yeah i think kind of yeah if i remember correctly like the thing is it's hard to remember because the main thing i remember about that hotel is when that guy was freaking out and the lady working the desk like came up to us and we were so stoned and she's like hey excuse me and we like tried to ignore her
00:35:56
Ben
i
00:36:14
Ben
No, she no she she was outside and she was like, um, can you gentlemen come here please or something?
00:36:22
urfavoritecoastersux
yeah that's right
00:36:27
Ben
And then it turns out she just wanted like people near her. Why she called the cops, which is fair.
00:36:32
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, and that's fine. But yeah, the way she asked, it's like, yeah, she's like, can she gentlemen come over here? And it's like, ah um.
00:36:41
Ben
for
00:36:43
urfavoritecoastersux
Because, yeah, that was like, like, I don't know, 20 minutes after we had all smoked a joint.
00:36:49
Ben
Mm hmm.
00:36:50
urfavoritecoastersux
So we're all stoned and it's just like, oh, fuck, it are we like Boston?
00:36:58
Ben
And it's like, yeah, that was Texas busted where like those joints were like 250 milligrams a piece because they had concentrate in it. Probably a felony.
00:37:13
urfavoritecoastersux
That's what I'm saying. I'm like, oh my God. My heart's fucking racing. Cause I also have like my fucking jacket on and we're all like, uh, sitting there being loud and shit.
00:37:34
Ben
Yeah, Texas always burns me out.
00:37:38
urfavoritecoastersux
That's what I'm saying.
00:37:43
urfavoritecoastersux
I would love to do another meetup there.
00:37:48
Ben
Well, it's a good spot to go in the like spring, like late winter, early spring. Whenever we did that late February, that was good.
00:37:57
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah. No, that was that was good. I think it'd be cooler. To stay not near the parks, though.
00:38:12
Ben
Like in San Antonio.
00:38:14
urfavoritecoastersux
yeah like stay like near the river walk or ideally like right on the river walk if there's a hotel right there because you got to drive anyway right from the hotel to the park so it's not like there's a huge advantage staying close to the parks
00:38:15
Ben
Yeah.
00:38:27
Ben
Yeah, that'd be cool. Right.
00:38:44
Ben
And the also, I mean, I also need Dr. Diabolical and I just, Oh yeah.
00:38:50
urfavoritecoastersux
Same. Kid Flash.
00:38:56
Ben
But also I wouldn't mind rewriting all that stuff there. It was fun. It's like, um, that part kind of has that Valley fair effect where like your your expectations are kind of low because they don't have that many rides, but everything is pretty good.
00:39:12
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, Iron Rattlers good. Wonder Woman's really good. Superman was good. Poltergeist was good. Their boomerang was probably the best boomerang I've been on.
00:39:28
Ben
I wish I could remember that one.
00:39:35
urfavoritecoastersux
um When we were all stoned and rode Goliath, that was like the craziest ride I ever went on.
00:39:44
Ben
Mm hmm.
00:39:48
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh they're mind trains really good too.
00:39:48
Ben
Yeah, that
00:39:53
Ben
Like, yeah, that was the Goliath was crazy. But then like, when you guys had the dark ride, I had that brat on poltergeist. That was insane.
00:40:03
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh yeah and that dark ride was awesome too.
00:40:04
Ben
It was just.
00:40:10
urfavoritecoastersux
Did you ever end up going on that?
00:40:12
Ben
No, I just skipped it. I ended up sitting next to a mom on a poltergeist.
00:40:22
Ben
as a semi balding tall man in his 30s with a sweaty face stone. Just like looking like a zombie.
00:40:34
urfavoritecoastersux
Is anyone gonna sit there?
00:40:42
Ben
It was probably pretty close. I mean, that's probably what happened.
00:40:48
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, that was a fun time.
00:40:55
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, ah we had mentioned maybe a magic mountain meetup. If you're down for that,
00:41:01
Ben
yeah or that i mean yeah that's easy it's easy to get to good little pop in and out weekend if i do that i definitely want to get on um like if i could get on ghost rider and accelerator then yeah that'd be cool i might even just say like fucking get the fast lane
00:41:10
urfavoritecoastersux
Definitely. Yeah, we could do Magic Mountain and not.
00:41:29
Ben
just to like get rides on ghost rider. Cause I don't know what it is. Every time I hear anything about that park, people say ghost rider is like a two hour plus wait, even on slow days.
00:41:39
urfavoritecoastersux
It's Yeah, it's just because of the the way they that rides laid out and they changed the blocks so that it only runs two trains now.
00:41:50
Ben
Mm-hmm.
00:41:56
urfavoritecoastersux
And the operations aren't I don't think they're their ops team is like typically fantastic at that ride. But.
00:42:09
urfavoritecoastersux
because i think i've heard of them having like four to seven minute dispatches at times so like that's
00:42:20
Ben
Yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
00:42:28
urfavoritecoastersux
you know so yeah i get what you're saying but yeah i think um
00:42:39
urfavoritecoastersux
Cause I'm trying to remember the meetups now. Cause the first one was Texas in 2020. Oh, and then we did Hollywood nights in 2021. Then we did, uh, Dollywood in 2022.
00:42:57
urfavoritecoastersux
And then last year was great America and great America.
00:43:12
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, so maybe we try to aim for, like you were saying, that winter timeframe.
00:43:21
Ben
Yeah.
00:43:25
Ben
You know, like depressing time of the year, like so late February.
00:43:30
urfavoritecoastersux
Late January through late February.
00:43:33
Ben
Yeah. Late February is kind of fun because then you're at that like dead point of winter, but then you're like optimistic about springtime. You're like, Oh, it's only a couple of weeks away.
00:43:48
Ben
That's always fun.
00:43:49
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah.
00:43:49
Ben
And like, plus like, yeah, I'm down. I'm actually, let me check.
00:44:01
Ben
All I know is I got points with a companion pass.
00:44:12
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, shit.
00:44:19
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, well then let's maybe look at dates around that time and see what's good. Because that'd be fun.
00:44:36
urfavoritecoastersux
Let me see. Pull up that motherfucking calendar.
00:44:46
Ben
Hell yeah, we did it. We've been trying to use the credit card to get the companion pass all year.
00:44:54
urfavoritecoastersux
nice okay so like maybe that last
00:44:55
Ben
And then we fucking hit it.
00:45:16
urfavoritecoastersux
weekend or first weekend of March like February 28th, which is a Friday through March like second or third.
00:45:32
Ben
Yeah, we'll just have to make sure if we pick something that's not on any spring break times. I don't know when spring break usually is.
00:45:42
urfavoritecoastersux
i don't know for this area either or i guess southern california we should be able to tell by their operating schedule though because they'll be open during the week when it's spring break whereas i'm pretty sure they go to weekends only from like after fright fest all the way through
00:45:56
Ben
Yeah, that's true.
00:46:12
urfavoritecoastersux
I don't know, April?
00:46:20
Ben
Yeah, let's, I also, yeah, I think they're pretty much every Saturday, Sunday, at least.
00:46:21
urfavoritecoastersux
I think Knotts is open every day though.
00:46:30
Ben
So.
00:46:31
urfavoritecoastersux
No, I'm pretty sure Knotts is open every day except for Christmas Day.
00:46:35
Ben
Oh, really? shit Okay.
00:46:37
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, because they're so close to Disneyland.
00:46:40
Ben
Yeah. That makes sense.
00:46:42
urfavoritecoastersux
which is why they are also the most visit visited Cedar Fair Park.
00:46:54
urfavoritecoastersux
But yeah, um oh, and that's something else to consider is you can add on Disneyland.
00:47:01
Ben
Yeah, it's true. So.
00:47:06
urfavoritecoastersux
And for all of you who have a ah membership for Six Flags or for Cedar Fair, you'll be able to add on the All Park Passport, which means you'll be covered for both of those parks on your single pass.
00:47:25
Ben
Oh yeah, that's a good point.
00:47:25
urfavoritecoastersux
Your Magic Mountain. and uh... knots because that'll be i think january anywhere fifth or sixth when that takes effect but
00:47:45
Ben
Damn, the flash pass ultimate is $170.
Nostalgic Roller Coaster Memories
00:47:50
urfavoritecoastersux
for one day
00:47:52
urfavoritecoastersux
shit
00:47:53
Ben
It does count. Oh, and you still only get a single reservation on X2. That's kind of crazy to think about how that ride is 20 years old and it still only has a single reservation on their flash passes.
00:48:12
urfavoritecoastersux
yeah well i mean still twenty what two years later it's one of only well technically it's one of only one in the world one of three if you wanna be a little less specific so
00:48:29
Ben
yeah
00:48:41
urfavoritecoastersux
you know from a uniqueness perspective I can see it because like there's nothing else like X2 at least here in America you know
00:48:54
Ben
Yeah. Mhm.
00:49:07
urfavoritecoastersux
and don't even try to say 40 free spins not you but you know listener controlled spins way better and just like the bigger ride layout like getting real ass air time on there versus like
00:49:14
Ben
I mean it's basically the same thing.
00:49:26
Ben
Yeah, it's true.
00:49:35
urfavoritecoastersux
that like weird like jarring, it's like kind of like, you know what I'm talking about? Like, not over the hills on the Freud's free spin, but like, when it does that first over the top flip underneath.
00:49:51
Ben
Mm hmm.
00:49:52
urfavoritecoastersux
And it's like, kind of air time but kind of not too.
00:49:58
Ben
Yeah. like It's like, ah yeah. It's kind of like, what you know, you wouldn't call the overbanged turns on Superman Ultimate flight airtime, even though it is pointing you out of your seat.
00:50:16
urfavoritecoastersux
yeah it's just because of how you're oriented to the g-forces but yeah like on on x2 you know like there's this like actual air time and shit
00:50:26
Ben
yeah
00:50:42
Ben
I love landing on my crotch on the bar.
00:50:47
urfavoritecoastersux
Okay. That sounds deeply personal.
00:50:58
Ben
One time I landed on it, I thought I was gonna go up my ass.
00:51:07
Ben
Holy.
00:51:07
urfavoritecoastersux
I... I still have to try that ride in the fucking back row.
00:51:14
Ben
Yeah, back row is pretty legit. To the point where it's the only place I wanna ride. Like front row, I mean front row is cool for the view but there's something about because it's it's still arrow it's still like coat hanger arrow on the first drop in the back row so it's like every other arrow corkscrew coaster that has that weird ejector from the triangular hills it's like the same sensation
00:51:52
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, that sounds fucking awesome.
00:51:57
Ben
And damn, apparently Flash at Grid Adventure is testing.
00:52:06
urfavoritecoastersux
I read that shit.
00:52:09
Ben
It is October 22nd at time of recording.
00:52:10
urfavoritecoastersux
I think
00:52:17
Ben
That's so dumb. like
00:52:18
urfavoritecoastersux
Well, they already announced that that they were pushed back the opening to next year.
00:52:25
Ben
Wouldn't this make more sense to open at like the great escape?
00:52:32
urfavoritecoastersux
Like New England or Great Escape. Yeah.
00:52:35
Ben
Yeah.
00:52:39
urfavoritecoastersux
Definitely.
00:52:41
Ben
I mean, it's just their main like a flagship park outside of New York City. And it's a one.
00:52:52
urfavoritecoastersux
And they're like, yeah, we picked it up for cheap.
00:52:59
Ben
24 person cars.
00:53:05
urfavoritecoastersux
I mean, boomerangs were never designed for big parks, I don't think.
00:53:14
Ben
True. But I mean, at least six flags didn't stoop to that low. Oh, I guess that's not true. Because over Texas does have a boomerang. But like, there's not one at
00:53:23
urfavoritecoastersux
Well, I mean, even like the giant ones.
00:53:28
Ben
Yeah, it's true.
00:53:31
urfavoritecoastersux
Because the capacity is always going to be completely limited.
00:53:31
Ben
Although, although when ah in the press release, like the, like the Vekoma official video for deja vu, they said that the theoretical capacity was like 950 people per hour.
00:53:59
Ben
And then in reality, I think it hitler it barely broke like 400.
00:54:00
urfavoritecoastersux
That's that's what I was going to say, like 950 if. um Everybody has their seat belt.
00:54:14
urfavoritecoastersux
Buckled, but keeps the harness up every cycle.
00:54:18
Ben
Yeah.
00:54:20
urfavoritecoastersux
And there's no issues with loading or unloading, and there's no issue with the ride at all.
00:54:31
Ben
Yeah, I mean, originally when they didn't have those waist seat belts, you know, it maybe would have been fine.
00:54:41
urfavoritecoastersux
and those nose breaking bars.
00:54:44
Ben
Yeah.
00:54:47
urfavoritecoastersux
Why did they add those?
00:54:50
Ben
I guess it was because you could stick your arm through the middle of the restraint and like touch the wheels.
00:55:00
urfavoritecoastersux
OK.
00:55:04
Ben
Cause they had the, they were pretty good on the sides. Like you couldn't really, you couldn't stick your arms up because there there are, there are those like, uh, those like guards by your shoulders that like prevented you from even lifting your arms. But yeah, I guess like, I mean, cause like when you think about, I mean, I don't Google, uh, deja vu. I mean, those restraints were like really wide. They were like very big and kind of like sat away from your body.
00:55:31
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, I always remember feeling a little uncomfortable. At the very unlike the lift up tower one and the descent back down tower one at the end of the ride.
00:55:48
urfavoritecoastersux
Just because you're like. You were like pressed up against the restraint, but it wasn't. Like right there.
00:55:58
Ben
Yeah, you had you had so much room like they were like comically big
00:56:05
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, so I definitely remember feeling like kind of a little bit, you know, wigged out by that.
00:56:26
urfavoritecoastersux
But yeah, fucking.
00:56:31
urfavoritecoastersux
I wish one of those was still closer by. I have to go all the way to Silverwood for it.
00:56:38
Ben
Yeah.
00:56:42
Ben
It's not that far for you now.
00:56:45
urfavoritecoastersux
It's like a 12 hour drive.
00:56:47
Ben
That's nothing.
00:56:54
Ben
Oh god, I just was like looking through pictures and I stumbled upon the ah Six Flags New England one. It looks so weird with those new trains.
00:57:09
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, yeah, those didn't look good at all.
00:57:14
Ben
Apparently they rode like shit.
00:57:17
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, that's that was the disappointing thing.
00:57:26
Ben
When I was a kid, I thought it was the trains are going to be like two people across and then four across, two across and four across. I didn't realize that they were like staggered seating.
00:57:40
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, yeah, I could see how you would think that just looking at him.
00:57:48
urfavoritecoastersux
And it is weird that they staggered him.
00:57:52
Ben
I mean it was a pretty cool effect especially in the wing seats because you didn't have it was kind of like everybody sat exit row on an airplane.
00:58:06
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah. Unobstructed, you know, clearance from the right and left.
00:58:17
urfavoritecoastersux
Or I guess one side.
00:58:20
Ben
Yeah.
00:58:22
urfavoritecoastersux
But yeah, I remember my favorite seat is always eight B.
00:58:31
urfavoritecoastersux
And I'm pretty sure I prefer the right side.
00:58:34
Ben
Yeah, that silverwood they go a b A through B, A through D, so like the right side is A, D.
00:58:43
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, okay. Yeah, that that fucking ride is awesome. I miss it. I say as if it hasn't been like shit Jesus almost 20 years since I last rode in.
00:59:06
Ben
Not that far, is it? No, 16 years.
00:59:12
urfavoritecoastersux
So almost 20.
00:59:13
Ben
Well, I didn't. And I wrote that shit in 2020, and that did not have as bad of a rattle as B and&Ms do nowadays.
00:59:27
Ben
I coasters all this fuck.
00:59:31
Ben
And it's still it's still running.
00:59:31
urfavoritecoastersux
but I just remember thinking that shit was so fucking cool when it like first was built.
00:59:41
Ben
Yeah, it totally, it shocked me. Like, cause I knew, cause like I've been on, like I've been on a regular, and when I'm trying to remember like, or of coasters I've written. Cause like, I think I've been on like one other regular boomerang and then, um, like face off before I wrote deja vu. No, I didn't write. I didn't write face off. I only went on one boomerang to sit down. Um,
01:00:13
Ben
And like, I kind of was just expecting that. I wasn't really expecting, like I knew that the towers were vertical, but I was just sort of like, oh, you know, people, I always read on like message boards, how people don't like boomerangs. And I was like, oh, this ride isn't going to be that great. But then like you ride and then like you drop and has all the free fall. And I remember just like, I was just like blown away by the ride. I thought it was the coolest thing in the park.
01:00:45
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, same. I thought that ride was fucking awesome.
Exploring Old Theme Parks via Wayback Machine
01:00:53
urfavoritecoastersux
And just the look of it because it looks super intimidating.
01:00:58
Ben
Yeah and like the queue line like goes underneath um like the second tower and it's like super loud and all the cables and stuff it's uh you're just looking you're like literally under it just looking you know straight up at it yeah that's why I with wish they did uh
01:01:15
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, and the color scheme was awesome.
01:01:23
Ben
green and blue for Rachasa, but I don't know if the blue and yellow look that cool.
01:01:28
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, that had been sick.
01:01:34
urfavoritecoastersux
It's because it's like a muted blue.
01:01:37
Ben
Yeah.
01:01:37
urfavoritecoastersux
Whereas like the deja vu colors were very bright.
01:01:45
Ben
And it's something that only could have existed in that like,
01:01:45
urfavoritecoastersux
Which Yeah Definitely now you said that I'm thinking of that um promo video with the animation that has I see stars playing Yeah, and ah
01:01:50
Ben
99 like 99 year 2000 kind of era oh yeah i gotta look that up
01:02:16
urfavoritecoastersux
If our listeners haven't watched that one or it's been a while, I would encourage it because A, you'll see how far um these coaster animations have come. B, great song.
01:02:36
urfavoritecoastersux
Um.
01:02:45
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, I'm looking it up right now too.
01:02:57
urfavoritecoastersux
There it is. Found it.
01:03:08
Ben
It's kind of funny too how like the POV is like not gravity speed.
01:03:16
urfavoritecoastersux
No, it's definitely going like slow.
01:03:20
Ben
And then they just clip it and speed up the portions.
01:03:29
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, this is clearly one of those ones where it's like rendered one frame at a time and they just didn't put the they like fucked up the timing on spacing them out.
01:03:34
Ben
Mm-hmm.
01:03:43
Ben
Yeah, I mean, that was the shit where like you would, you know, at the time you'd have to download a, like a quick time thumbnail. And we had, I mean, shit, our house had, we had dial up until probably like 2007 just because we lived in the middle of nowhere. And so like, you'd have to.
01:04:09
Ben
You know, load the video and like quick time videos, you couldn't download sometimes. So you had to like actually let it render in the screen and hope that your web page didn't time out.
01:04:23
Ben
But it would take like an hour, sometimes two hours.
01:04:28
urfavoritecoastersux
Damn.
01:04:29
Ben
But I remember seeing that like like because in that year they also had the vertical velocity one, which I don't remember if they had a promo.
01:04:44
Ben
But I remember I remember downloading both of those videos on the Six Flags website. And back then, too, you there was really no announcements unless you like knew what to, you know, look for on the websites and or like message boards.
01:04:59
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, I remember being tapped in via mainly, I think at that time, um, CIFF cam world and thrill network. I don't know if you remember thrill network at all.
01:05:18
Ben
Yeah. And like coaster buzz.
01:05:24
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah.
01:05:28
urfavoritecoastersux
And now it's it's really hilarious to me that back then Screamscape was a joke.
01:05:34
Ben
Yeah.
01:05:35
urfavoritecoastersux
Remember that?
01:05:36
Ben
yeah
01:05:37
urfavoritecoastersux
It's like any any unsubstantiated claim that got emailed to them, they would just repost.
01:05:45
Ben
That's more like the tumbleweed rumor. I remember reading Screamscape in like, I don't know, 2004 maybe?
01:05:58
Ben
No, it was like 2002. And I remember really reading about Project Tumbleweed and it was like, yeah, four dimension coaster coming to Great America. I was like, Oh, that's so cool. But like, I know you couldn't really fact check things back then. So even it, so in 2004, I remember going to grid America on my eighth grade field trip. Kind of expecting the hope to see like a 40 coaster when we ah arrived at the park.
01:06:27
Ben
Cause other than that, like, unless you like really knew what you're doing, I mean, like you would, I would like watch the discovery channel shows it's like, well, I don't think six flags as a new coaster.
01:06:37
Ben
But I remember the deja vu one was like, I was just browsing the six flags website and like a new, there's an update. Like, like Oh, wow. That's new. Like, holy shit. This looks awesome.
01:06:49
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, same. I remember definitely going on the official park websites. Because other than than that, yeah, it'd be like whatever, like the local news if something actually happened or if you saw a commercial.
01:07:00
Ben
Yeah.
01:07:04
Ben
yeah
01:07:12
Ben
RCDB was, I mean, always pretty reliable too, but I didn't, when I was like young, I didn't, you know, I didn't know what factual sources of data were.
01:07:27
urfavoritecoastersux
Right. And the or the Internet wasn't organized in the same way it is now.
01:07:34
Ben
Yeah.
01:07:35
urfavoritecoastersux
So it wasn't as easy to just well, especially like I remember being a kid and it didn't ever occur to me to look for like roller coaster stuff until later. Like when I was first getting into it, it was all based off of like, whoa, yeah, six flags.
01:07:49
Ben
Mm hmm.
01:07:51
urfavoritecoastersux
and I think like scrolling there what the Six Flags website is how I found out there was other Six Flags parks.
01:08:00
Ben
Yeah, they had that map, that flash website where you like hover over the dots. It didn't make like a big like a beeping sound and then.
01:08:08
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, yeah. And
01:08:12
Ben
You could like, but what's funny though, the websites were so basic, like each ride page only had like one photo.
01:08:22
urfavoritecoastersux
I remember there was some that had like POV videos you could download.
01:08:35
Ben
yeah that's right
01:08:37
urfavoritecoastersux
I want to say it was probably Astro World I'm thinking of. Like I remember so clearly downloading a POV of a drop tower.
01:08:48
Ben
huh
01:08:49
urfavoritecoastersux
and thinking it was weird that there was a POV of a drop tower.
01:08:59
urfavoritecoastersux
And I'm pretty sure it was all from Astro World, but I could be off on that.
01:09:05
Ben
makes sense. I wonder if there's a, I wonder if the way back, I know the way back machine doesn't support flash or does it. I don't think it does.
01:09:21
urfavoritecoastersux
I don't think so either, but it probably has the Six Flags website from around that time.
01:09:34
Ben
way the way back machine is in the oh wait no it's archive or yeah that's right internet archive.com yeah because nope internet internet archive is not available or it's for sale is it dot .org why can't I think of this okay your connection is not private what the fuck is going
01:09:38
urfavoritecoastersux
Internet Archive.
01:09:57
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:04
urfavoritecoastersux
Just Google it then.
01:10:07
Ben
No, I did though. I found it. Internet Archive. Okay. Way back machine.
01:10:31
Ben
So let's go back to 2000.
01:10:36
Ben
like response.
01:10:39
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, give us ah give us the update.
01:10:53
urfavoritecoastersux
Ooh, what's a 301?
01:10:53
Ben
I don't know. Okay. So it worked. Man, the website literally literally looks, there's a Pringles advertisement and and an AOL advertisement, like just right on the front center page.
01:11:12
Ben
That is awesome.
01:11:13
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, wow.
01:11:14
Ben
Try AOL today, 1000 free hours.
01:11:20
Ben
Word art that just says worldwide thrills.
01:11:25
urfavoritecoastersux
Worldwide Thrills.
01:11:29
Ben
It's pretty crazy. All right. Pick a park. Oh, shit. It kind of it kind of works, actually. So. Actually, I want to look at the eelage gardens page from.
01:11:45
urfavoritecoastersux
All right, I pulled up way back machine here. Said you're in 2001.
01:11:50
Ben
June. ah Whatever June was, because like they have the different types of snapshots.
01:11:59
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, there's the first in June and the 29th.
01:12:05
Ben
I think I did the
01:12:07
urfavoritecoastersux
All right.
01:12:09
urfavoritecoastersux
Let's check it out.
01:12:23
Ben
I remember, I'm ah i'm on the Eelich page now. I remember Eelich Gardens was such an like such a like elusive park to me at the time.
01:12:37
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, it still is to me.
01:12:40
Ben
ah sir
01:12:42
urfavoritecoastersux
18 new coasters in 2001.
01:12:49
urfavoritecoastersux
I see Pringles America online. Fright Fest. Pick a park. OK.
01:13:04
Ben
Huh, Elon just used to call their Sky Coaster Accelerator, like XLRator.
01:13:12
urfavoritecoastersux
interesting wasn't that the name of uh the arrow suspended at astral world well six flags always uh never never letting them go to waste right once the name is trademarked
01:13:40
Ben
I don't know what ruffle is, but I can't tell if this is flash or not.
01:13:44
urfavoritecoastersux
I see that.
01:13:49
Ben
I also didn't know Six Flags had a hurricane harbor in LA.
01:13:55
urfavoritecoastersux
It's I think at Magic Mountain.
01:13:58
Ben
Oh, that makes sense.
01:14:01
Ben
Anything used to own Waterworld in Sacramento? That's crazy.
01:14:05
urfavoritecoastersux
Interesting. Yeah, it says Great America, Chicago, so, you know. They're they're taking liberties.
01:14:12
Ben
Uh, there's that fucking sound.
01:14:19
urfavoritecoastersux
What the hell is that?
01:14:19
Ben
That brings back, that brings back. Oh, it's freaked the Ruger out. Ruger, it's okay. It's okay. He doesn't like beeps.
01:14:33
Ben
Ruger, it's okay.
01:14:36
urfavoritecoastersux
Park News. Oh man, under Park Info, there's a picture of Shockwave. That makes me feel old.
01:14:53
Ben
Oh, are you on the great America page?
01:14:56
urfavoritecoastersux
yeah
01:15:03
Ben
<unk>ger It's okay. It's just six flags.
01:15:08
Ben
It's okay.
01:15:09
urfavoritecoastersux
yeah okay wait a second wait a fucking second now yeah I'm trying to it's not letting me play it
01:15:16
Ben
Do you see the deja vu video?
01:15:26
Ben
Oh yeah, real player and widows movie in Windows Media.
01:15:38
Ben
The story.
01:15:57
Ben
Yeah, the video is not working for me either.
01:16:00
urfavoritecoastersux
yeah this is taking me back alright let's see then I'm gonna see if oh I didn't think about trying the QuickTime one I got the Windows Movie Maker one and it said it was corrupt
01:16:09
Ben
Oh, it actually downloaded the video, but it it can't run on. It's not compatible with QuickTime because I'm on a fucking Mac.
01:16:27
Ben
Well I think the problem with QuickTime is that didn't they discontinue QuickTime?
01:16:32
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, I don't think QuickTime is around anymore.
01:16:37
Ben
Yeah. And real player was the worst. Remember that shit?
01:16:44
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah. Yeah. OK, so on the Astro World one on their rides page, they have videos. I think this is what I'm remembering.
01:17:01
urfavoritecoastersux
Of course, it's not letting me like open and the video, but you know.
01:17:07
Ben
yeah
01:17:17
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, this is making me feel old.
01:17:20
Ben
Oh, and they had their international parks too at the time.
01:17:24
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah.
01:17:28
urfavoritecoastersux
Six Flags Holland, Six Flags Belgium.
01:17:37
Ben
Serial thrill.
01:17:42
urfavoritecoastersux
What a great name.
Conclusion & Future Plans
01:17:48
Ben
The escape. That ride looked jank. Isn't that the one that went to Laurent?
01:17:52
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, it did.
01:17:57
urfavoritecoastersux
No, that's the one that went to Darien Lake and sat in that field for like ever.
01:18:04
Ben
Okay.
01:18:09
urfavoritecoastersux
And then I think just kind of sat there forever.
01:18:16
Ben
Oh, they have the Texas tornado.
01:18:20
Ben
That's cool.
01:18:22
urfavoritecoastersux
What was that?
01:18:24
Ben
That was the Schwarzkopf Thriller coaster that came from Germany.
01:18:30
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh yeah.
01:18:34
urfavoritecoastersux
I'm assuming that's dead now.
01:18:38
Ben
Yeah, it was at Marine World as Zanga.
01:18:44
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, that's right.
01:18:48
Ben
Oh shit, and they had a looping star.
01:18:54
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, fuck.
01:18:55
Ben
Yeah, their lineup actually looked pretty cool. And they had a shuttle loop. They had three Schwarzkopfs.
01:19:06
urfavoritecoastersux
Jesus man bummed I missed that and they had a ultra twister Yeah,
01:19:12
Ben
Oh yeah. You know, like I always think of all astral does kind of like, uh, you know, like a park with a kind of a bad ride lineup, but actually it was pretty legit because even.
01:19:25
urfavoritecoastersux
and fucking what's it called Texas cyclone was supposed to be Really good
01:19:30
Ben
Yeah.
01:19:38
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, I'm bummed I missed Astro World.
01:19:45
Ben
The serpent.
01:20:00
urfavoritecoastersux
But maybe they'll build a new park in Houston at some point.
01:20:10
Ben
I'm surprised they haven't. I mean, that Metro is massive. Plus because it's Texas, there's just like an infinite amount of land to grow on.
01:20:26
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, especially because now the astro dome isn't used any anymore.
01:20:43
Ben
I wonder what Cedar points member. Okay, so I'm gonna go to Cedar point ah.com because they actually had a pretty cool flash page.
01:20:55
urfavoritecoastersux
I remember that the header that like banner where the rides would move.
01:20:58
Ben
Yeah.
01:21:09
Ben
It's kind of funny thinking back on this. So in 2008, when I started college I was learning how to build flash pages like it for web development and graphic design and like flash animations and all these different things and then like flash died in like 2009 I think HTML5 pretty much replaced it
01:21:34
urfavoritecoastersux
ah Something replaced it?
01:21:43
Ben
HTML5 basically gave like the same functionality of like objects of like object orientation or like what do you call it like graphics and objects and that kind of thing with embedded CSS because basically iPad I remember because that was the whole controversy the i but iPhone and the iPad didn't support flash And they were getting criticism about it. And they're like, Oh, no, don't worry. Like we're doing something else. And then HTML five came out.
01:22:24
urfavoritecoastersux
Okay.
01:22:32
Ben
The iPad basically killed flash, which sucks because it was actually pretty flash was like easy to work with.
01:22:42
Ben
You can make games, video animations, you could embed videos, you could embed any audio file, any video files, pretty cool. Yeah, so the Cedar Point header works.
01:23:00
urfavoritecoastersux
um so I see that. I pulled it up. That's awesome.
01:23:08
Ben
Although I only see Millennium Force running.
01:23:12
urfavoritecoastersux
I've seen dragster millennium force, but nothing else.
01:23:15
Ben
Uh, what, what, what year are you on?
01:23:17
urfavoritecoastersux
2003.
01:23:19
Ben
ah Okay. Yeah. I'm still an L one.
01:23:26
Ben
Yeah. The 2001 only has one train on millennium fours. And actually I think it might be the only coaster that's running. I remember at a certain point too, like maybe it was 2000, like 2008 maybe when you could actually enable different layers to it.
01:23:59
urfavoritecoastersux
Dude, the brochure. Do you remember that?
01:24:04
Ben
Getting the free one in the mail.
01:24:05
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah.
01:24:06
Ben
Yep.
01:24:10
Ben
Hell yeah.
01:24:14
Ben
Yeah, I got those cents to the house all the time.
01:24:17
urfavoritecoastersux
Same. I used to love that shit.
01:24:24
Ben
I remember when I got one because it was sent to me and I somehow like figured out how to type in the address and all that. And then like my parents were like, are you like putting your information on the internet?
01:24:39
Ben
It was like this big deal because I was like 11. No, I was I was like, I think I was like 10.
01:24:54
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, I'm looking at 2002. Cause that's the first time I went there. And this is bringing back memories.
01:25:08
Ben
Oof, that old Cedar Fair logo.
01:25:13
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, where is that?
01:25:15
Ben
Well just not like the bot.
01:25:16
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, at the bottom. Yeah. Holy fuck.
01:25:17
Ben
Yeah.
01:25:19
urfavoritecoastersux
That is terrible.
01:25:24
Ben
Oh shit, they'd use that all the way up until 2010 maybe?
01:25:32
urfavoritecoastersux
Good lord.
01:25:34
Ben
No. Okay, so 2010, it's new. Maybe it was 2009.
01:25:46
Ben
Let's see, 2007. Yeah, they they didn't change it. They had that old logo up until 2007. Jacket update, click for info.
01:26:05
Ben
free jacket with season pass. Remember that shit?
01:26:08
urfavoritecoastersux
oh yeah okay Cedar Point Marketplace please show me some old merch
01:26:10
Ben
It's so hideous too and it only came in like one size.
01:26:37
urfavoritecoastersux
No luck on the old merch.
01:26:45
urfavoritecoastersux
What's under online fun?
01:26:53
Ben
I love too when you go to the park map, like back then it was literally just like a giant JPEG.
01:27:01
Ben
Oh, the webcams, oh no, they're not gonna work.
01:27:04
urfavoritecoastersux
video downloads interesting
01:27:07
Ben
Oh, whoa, shit dude, the video, the webcams are still, the webcams still show a screenshot from 2007.
01:27:22
Ben
Let's see if, let's see if I can find one from 2003. Cause I remember they had a webcam on when they were building wicked twister. Oh, those are 2008. Oh, weird. Every, Oh, duh. Of course it's a snapshot. Of course it's going to have a snapshot of the web of the thing.
01:27:51
urfavoritecoastersux
God, this, uh, this has got to be an interesting podcast. Listening to us talk about an old website.
01:28:02
Ben
Have you seen any any of the webcam stuff?
01:28:06
urfavoritecoastersux
No, I didn't really look.
01:28:06
Ben
Just whatever. No, whatever.
01:28:08
urfavoritecoastersux
Let's see live park cams.
01:28:09
Ben
Go to like whatever.
01:28:13
urfavoritecoastersux
Okay. Millennium force wicked twister and hotel breakers.
01:28:34
urfavoritecoastersux
oh wow
01:28:39
Ben
I want to see if I can find one from when they were building wicked twister. Cause I, that was fun. I remember when that cam was on, I would like watch it every day and wait for that 90 second refresh.
01:28:58
Ben
So let's see, February of 2000 wicked twister was 2002.
01:28:59
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh wow.
01:29:06
Ben
two
01:29:07
urfavoritecoastersux
Two.
01:29:11
Ben
Wait, was it? Well, it wasn't Dragster. Okay, I always forget Dragster was 03.
01:29:23
urfavoritecoastersux
um Yes.
01:29:25
Ben
See, i in my mind, I always thought Wicked Twister was like a consolation prize for the fuck up of Dragster, but I guess it came before it.
01:29:39
urfavoritecoastersux
Sure it did.
01:29:47
Ben
Yeah, we could twister construction with disaster transport.
01:30:06
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, I found news from June 27th 2003 on thrillnetwork.com that says top thrill dragster may remain closed all season.
01:30:21
Ben
Was that when the cable broke?
01:30:23
urfavoritecoastersux
No, this is the year it opened now so it might have been you know just
01:30:39
urfavoritecoastersux
doing that thing.
01:30:40
Ben
Yeah. Can we take a piss break?
01:30:49
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, or you want to just wrap it up.
01:30:52
Ben
Um, yeah, I mean, I'm good. I can wrap up.
01:30:58
urfavoritecoastersux
For sure, yeah, we're in an hour and a half.
01:31:01
Ben
Cool.
01:31:03
urfavoritecoastersux
I mean there's not, there hasn't been a fuckload going on right now anyway.
01:31:07
Ben
Yeah.
01:31:08
urfavoritecoastersux
We blew through a lot of news and then a lot of news. We blew through the news and then we talked about 20 plus year old versions of websites.
01:31:22
Ben
I mean, that's, that sounds like a good time.
01:31:23
urfavoritecoastersux
So yeah, I hope you all enjoyed that as much as we have.
01:31:25
Ben
Hopefully.
01:31:30
urfavoritecoastersux
um Don't feel sad about
01:31:34
urfavoritecoastersux
The time.
01:31:39
urfavoritecoastersux
Oh, man. But yeah, I don't know. You got anything else?
01:31:45
Ben
No, I'm just glad that all this shit is done because been living a HD TV show nightmare last two weeks and it's not quite done yet. Um, so it's just been a pain. Almost there though. The house is like totally new. I fucking love it.
01:32:07
urfavoritecoastersux
Well, that's awesome. I mean, now's the part, you know, that you get to enjoy the most, right?
01:32:19
Ben
Some reason the dogs hate it.
01:32:23
Ben
Um, yeah, it was like, we packed up, it we was like, we packed up the whole house, went to a strange house for two weeks and then we came back and there's like no carpet.
01:32:24
urfavoritecoastersux
They're probably just confused.
01:32:35
Ben
Probably the whole, all the smells are gone and there's just like boxes everywhere. They're like, what the fuck?
01:32:47
urfavoritecoastersux
Yeah, that's gotta be it. They're just like, fuck is this place? I mean, it's home, but like, what the fuck? What? We leave for two weeks. What the hell happened to this place?
01:33:03
Ben
It's okay.
01:33:05
urfavoritecoastersux
But yeah, no. um Hopefully.
01:33:11
urfavoritecoastersux
this time I'll be back with a magic mountain trip report next ah next time we're recording and we'll do a patreon call tomorrow if you're good for sure won't mean anything by the time you're hearing this but we will post it up online
01:33:17
Ben
Yeah, cool. Uh, yeah, I think that should work. Oh, I'll confirm up though.
01:33:37
Ben
Oh yeah.
01:33:40
Ben
Cool.
01:33:40
urfavoritecoastersux
on the discord but alright um yeah cool well that was good looking forward to uh getting back into the swing of it as the season winds down yes and i'm looking forward to not having to deal with that california
01:33:54
Ben
a long, very long off season ahead of us.
01:34:10
urfavoritecoastersux
But yeah, um cool. Fuck yeah. Let's air time that shit up. And um I don't know, I think also maybe let's try to get Sean Flaherty back on soon.
01:34:24
Ben
Okay.
01:34:26
urfavoritecoastersux
Because I noticed his YouTube channel, he's been posting a bunch of ah videos from his trip to Japan.
01:34:26
Ben
Yeah.
01:34:33
Ben
Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah, let's do that.
01:34:40
urfavoritecoastersux
Alright, I'll reach out to him or, um you know, Sean, if you're listening to this, you know, hit me up. But yeah, fucking A, man.
01:34:53
Ben
Cool.
01:34:53
urfavoritecoastersux
Well, you go have a good night and ah let me know about tomorrow. Pretendatively, then that sounds good.
01:35:01
Ben
All right, yeah, cool.
01:35:05
urfavoritecoastersux
All right, uh, fucking right. Thanks so much for listening, y'all. And until next time, your favorite coaster sucks.
01:35:12
Ben
Your favorite coaster sucks.