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This week Chris talks about attending GCW in Brooklyn, paying to wrestle in front of EC3 and Billy Corgan and starting our own Predetermined Wack Pack.  

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Missed Milestone: 200th Episode

00:00:34
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined at Pro Wrestling. Hang out, Garrett Callender and Chris Miggs here. And you know what? Chris, last week was our 200th episode and we did not acknowledge that. We were unaware of that. Although I guess it's most appropriate to say, Garrett, that of anyone involved in this podcast, this was your 200th episode. That's true.

Podcast Editing Process

00:01:00
Speaker
I think there's really only been like maybe two episodes of this show I wasn't on. Right. Yeah. Pretty much all. Otherwise it's been you. That might be something maybe we could celebrate that if we look and check how many it is. I think it might be two unless it's just one in which case this is it. But what's your two hundredth episode? So that would be the next one, I guess. I think I think facts and I have done two by ourselves is right.
00:01:28
Speaker
That's that that feels right because I remember editing them and enjoying getting to just enjoy the show and not. It's weird when we do this show. Typically we record and then I immediately listen to the entire thing again. I get to hear the same conversation I just had twice. They put behind the curtain there at the the magic of this show.

Dismissed Clip Show Idea

00:01:53
Speaker
I do. I, sometimes the interesting thing with re-listening to these things is that you'll kind of forget what you said and, or at least I do. And so I'll be listening to it and I'll think about a comment that like, Oh, I should, I should say that. And then I'll say it and I'm like, Oh good. Okay. Like nine times out of 10, one time out of 10, I'm like, Oh man, I missed one there. But usually it does come out of my mouth, you know?
00:02:20
Speaker
If we had a producer that wasn't me, I would have suggested a clip show for two hundreds. But I tell you this, I don't have the time to go through all that shit and cut out all the penis hole talk. Yeah, I would be I do feel like we could do a clip show from the last year. Plus, again, I think the first couple of years as well.
00:02:43
Speaker
Um, although really didn't you guys do one once that was like a recap and it was mostly just clips of you guys talking about the GCW show in Chicago.

Wrestling Memories: Foreman Mills

00:02:51
Speaker
Probably that show was, I earlier today, I was like, maybe we should talk about the highlights of the last 200 episodes. And I'm like, so much of it would just be like, God damn, two cups stuffed was fun. Well, not even that one, right? It was the, uh, wasn't the one in Foreman mills.
00:03:10
Speaker
Oh, shit. Yeah. Well, I feel like the the two cup stuff show got a lot of talk just because I don't know. I feel like we were way more into it at that point. But the right the Foreman Mills show for sure, because it's funny how I mean, to this day, that's probably the most intense death match show I've been to. But it's funny how many I've been to since and it's just become such a regular part of my life.

Indie Wrestling Ambiance

00:03:40
Speaker
Yeah, in the first one, you're like, because that's why it's great podcasting. You guys are just all, you're such interested observers and you're just like, guys, there was glass and it came near the audience. It touched my mouth. I mean, that night we saw Seaclopeg at Gills and I have seen so few people take the razor board spot.

Title-Winning Wrestlers' Anecdote

00:04:04
Speaker
since I mean, since then, those guys became actually they became the champions that night and left the country with the belts and never returned. And they're still here. I watched them wrestle on Sunday. They won the opener and then I watched them. They were sitting like across the balcony for me just watching the rest of the show.

Wrestlers' Fashion Choices

00:04:26
Speaker
Did they continue to wear the mesh shirts? No, no, they change into different.
00:04:34
Speaker
Miano Extremo wore, it was very beige. She wore like a beige hoodie and also I think like sweatshorts. And it was just- They ate just a solid beige. She was going solid beige and C. Clopay was wearing an MDK shirt. That's nice. Yeah.
00:04:54
Speaker
Whose decision do you think that they were just like, we got to go for the mesh? Do you think they were walking around like a Ross or a TJ Maxx? Like what would be a good thing? That seems like something you'd find there. Yeah. Yeah. You got to think where they were like, what was the inspiration? Although I guess it makes sense because it's like protective, but also we'll like show stuff. You know, it's like a good text. It's a layer over your skin.
00:05:26
Speaker
It's a thin layer, but it's better than nothing. It's got to be better than nothing. In the winter, it wouldn't. It would just be. I mean, it's like debris. Hmm. I guess.

Nostalgia at Brooklyn Venue

00:05:41
Speaker
I mean, I would love to sit down with them and discuss game plan strategy. So, OK, the show just time. We'll send a message to like, hey, guys, we want you on the show. We just want to talk about mesh shirts.
00:06:00
Speaker
So the show is in Brooklyn, right? Yeah, actually, interestingly, in a neighborhood that I lived in for about two and a half years, like 15 years ago. So we're going like way back. And it's interesting. It's an interesting, odd part of Brooklyn right by the Barclays Center. It's kind of at the intersection of about four different neighborhoods. Like I lived at the edge of Park Slope, but there's also like Forum Hill and Fort Green.
00:06:29
Speaker
An odd, the interesting thing about that is Charles Mason was on the show, unsurprisingly. He's on a lot of GCW shows. Who used to be your landlord? Of course, yes. Yes, Charles and I go way back. The reason I moved out is because he raised the rent. And not because I broke up with the person I was living with. He went to the thing where he was like, oh, you pores.

Venue Heat and Pricing Quirks

00:06:53
Speaker
And I'm like, dude, do you know what neighborhood you're in? There's no way.
00:06:58
Speaker
anyone who was like paying rent and walk to the show would be a poor like in his neighborhood is very, very gentrified, sir. Even even Gowanus, which was the sort of unsafe part 15 years ago, is kind of expensive. Like, come on, man. Have you seen, you know, the price? I I went to a Shake Shack. You know, it's you know, you're in a gentrified neighborhood when you go to a Shake Shack for dinner.
00:07:22
Speaker
You're like, Sir, I'm holding a thirty seven dollar Coors Light. That was actually interesting. They the place I don't think they're like a regularly they're a venue, but they're not regularly like a liquor seller. And I go up to get a bottle of water because it's very, very hot in there because this is.
00:07:41
Speaker
And we'll talk about this in a second, but this is a perfect indie wrestling venue, which means that the temperature is well above what anyone reasonable should expect. Indie wrestling venues are supposed to be just aggressively hot at all times of year. So I go to get a bottle of water and it's like water, $2, you know, soda, $2 beer, $5 suggested donations.
00:08:10
Speaker
And I was like, I don't know how to tell you this. If you ever got investigated by someone, I don't think that suggested donation trick is gonna work. I think that's the price.

Fan's Frustration with Venue Heat

00:08:22
Speaker
I think that the police have other things to worry about. Fair. Fair. I could tell from watching this show it was hot as hell because wrestlers were requesting water.
00:08:39
Speaker
There was one point in the Janela match where a guy in the crowd just like stood up and to no one I could tell in particular just screamed, turn on the fan. Like he could see a fan over there that was just off. They just weren't even bothering with a fan.
00:08:58
Speaker
What is it about indie wrestling that requires oppressive heat? Like it there, but it fits the ambiance. It's like part of it. Like you need to suffer a little bit for their art. Exactly. Here's the thing. If the venue charged enough, if the venue was cared enough to have like air conditioning, they would have to charge you too much money for an indie wrestling show to rent it.
00:09:28
Speaker
That means you have a property wrestling show. We need to see what bands have been playing there and they're like, all right, there's going to be an air conditioner fee. That's what that's what all those ticket master charges are for. That's for, you know, like that's the air that is the water they put inside the toilets to make your poops go away. I don't know any of the people who are playing. There's a couple of jazz, some jazz going on here.
00:09:58
Speaker
Oh, they're not making enough money at jazz to put the air on. Yeah. Jazz and indie wrestling. Very, very similar in that regard. I think that was the other thing I was there. I said you slip over there. I'm like, I think I might have gone to a show here once, but I don't remember exactly where. And it may have been just a similar looking place with a balcony. I just can't. I like this big recollection. I think it was like I may have seen TV on the radio there. Like I.
00:10:29
Speaker
I don't know. Entirely possible. It's possible on the radio in a lot of places. It's like I was in my 20s in New York in the mid aught. Sometimes you just saw TV on the radio. Yeah, sometimes the strokes are just going to show up places that you are. See, I was I'm too young for that because like by the time I was like.
00:10:50
Speaker
hitting it in New York more as an adult or almost adult. The strokes were both too rich and way too into drugs to be anywhere that I was. But TV on the radio, TV on the radio was just around. You're like, they did not have air conditioner money in that time period. No, not in 2005. They don't even release their big record until like 2006. It's not that big a record. You know what I mean?
00:11:19
Speaker
You're right, you're right. Great record though, if anyone listen to something to listen to. So the venue, it looked like an odd venue for New York. It looked, it was hard to gauge how many people were actually there, because it didn't look as big as the shows they normally do out there. Yeah, but maybe how it looks, because it felt inside like it was holding
00:11:45
Speaker
at least as many, if not maybe slightly, but a similar number of like the Melrose. And this wasn't aggressively, certainly wasn't sold out in the balcony, but there were also a lot of seats in the balcony relative to the Melrose. That was actually one of the things I liked about it was that the balcony was, it was like tiered seats. And the only thing that was reserved was the first row of the balcony. So I showed up
00:12:09
Speaker
a few minutes before the show started, and I texted my buddy Andrew, who was there, and he's like, hey, come upstairs to the balcony, and there were just seats. He's just like, hey, there's a seat next to me, come sit down. And I could see, like, because normally at a balcony, if there's no seats behind, or if there is a seat or something, it's like you can only see if you're in the first row, but I had a perfectly good view of pretty much the entire area. It reminded me, actually, with that, with the overall vibe of the place,
00:12:37
Speaker
the like old school aspect to it, the fact that it was invariably hot, the balcony, the way the balcony kind of overhung the rest of it, it reminded me a lot of The Elk's Lodge, which made me feel very at home. Like it definitely, that was I think one of the reasons I liked the show was like, it gave me like a warm feeling inside of like my late teens and early twenties at The Elk's Lodge watching like indie shows.
00:13:08
Speaker
Just to make sure it was a true indie show, I feel like I have to bring it back to a question Derek and I would ask about every venue we went to. What was the bathroom like? It was okay. It was like, you know, it wasn't a modern bathroom, but it was clean enough. Did the lock work? I did not have to poop, so.
00:13:37
Speaker
Oh, man, I guess that was just a me thing. If I'm going somewhere, you better believe I'm pooping. I mean, we've all been there, but just not that evening. I got a non-dairy shake from Shake Shack for that reason. And just because I didn't know because that's the show. You don't know what that bathroom is going to be like. You don't want to take risks. You know, my first PwG show.
00:14:05
Speaker
Doors had been open for six minutes and somebody had stuffed a t-shirt down the toilet and flooded the bathrooms. And they said, if you need to use the bathroom, you have to go to the CVS down the block. And that CVS fucking hated us. Like every, there was like once a month where the CVS is like, oh, okay, I guess I know what's going on because all these fucking fat, sweaty weirdos are in here.
00:14:36
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That's what he weirdos. At least. Did you at least buy some water? From CVS? Well, I mean, I couldn't. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean, they didn't lock the bathroom, though. Like that didn't have to buy it to get in there. I was getting in there. You're just a good person. Yeah. Well, I am thirsty. Very parched. That was I bought water and then later I bought a cherry seven up. Just I hadn't seen the cherry seven up in a while. Yeah, it was two bucks. Oh, expensive for cherry seven up. But, you know,
00:15:06
Speaker
Oh, the worst Brooklyn. You got to. There's another charge. That was actually one of the things that I was surprised at was that they were selling Bud Light, which I was like, if this is a real Brooklyn in the venue venue, you should be selling PBR. Are they still on? Is that still the hipster drink of choice? Honestly, I'm not with the hipsters enough anymore to know if that's the only thing they go to anymore. If they have moved on to like Takate, it kind of became a thing, too.
00:15:34
Speaker
Yeah, that was big. I don't know if Bud Light's just a hipster thing now because they're okay with trans people if they've just, you know. Was Jimmy Lloyd, did he borrow Matt Justice's pants? Not that I'm aware of.
00:15:54
Speaker
He looked like he was wearing Matt Justice's snakeskin pants. But they didn't look too tight for him. It looked like he did fit in them. So I don't know if he stretched out Matt Justice's pants or what was going on. But what was the room like when he ended up being the surprise and not Nick Gage? So let's set the scene for people. So I think you just talked about it. So it's Cardona, Blake Christian, and Delander.
00:16:21
Speaker
against Masha and Akira in a mystery partner. First of all, having watched the Circle Six show from the weekend prior, it was interesting seeing Akira not covered in glass. Like I felt like I could literally- He thought so too. I could literally look and see like, I think that's where the marks on your back are from the glass from last week. He's taken some nasty stuff over his career. His body,
00:16:50
Speaker
He looks like an old Japanese deathmatch guy and he's a young man. Maybe that's why he wrestled in New York the week after. He's like, I'm gonna go hard. In New York, they literally won't legally allow me to hit anyone with a light tube. But so we assumed that their partner would be one Nicholas Effengage. And instead, Masha introduced that their partner was the heart and soul of GCW.
00:17:20
Speaker
and you're fucking with a different boy came on. That was for you. They knew you were in the room. And at this point, would you be nervous if you met him? No. For some reason, no. It's fine. Also, because I really think I could easily run away from him. I've seen how much he smokes. He's honestly like his cardio seems
00:17:49
Speaker
It's a little surprising. Yeah, but it's in bursts. You know what I mean? He wrestles a lot of multi man matches for that reason. Well, but and all I could think was like, OK, I get it. Heart and soul of GCW, but definitely not the lungs. Right. The lungs of someone else. The heart and soul. Here's the taint and balls of GCW. That's.
00:18:19
Speaker
That's really what Masha should have gone with. Look, it was a fine match. Actually, what I most enjoyed was Cardona was carrying around some protein powder he's endorsing. And so the finish of the match involved, he went to get the protein power and throw it like salt, like the old school or baby powder kind of old school.
00:18:45
Speaker
Jimmy ducked the protein powder and went into step to lander's face and that sort of led to the finish. And all I could think was how appropriate is it that Jimmy Lloyd is just running from protein powder? That's the most nutrition he would have gotten all week.
00:19:09
Speaker
Yeah, there's balance in that and he ducked it and rolled out of the ring and went straight to get a cherry seven up. What a fucked up your equilibrium. It's like if you eat like shit for your whole life and then you eat like, you know, a salad, you're gonna feel that. You're gonna be running to the bathroom. You go right through. Yeah, that was a fine match. Again, it was very much like,
00:19:37
Speaker
A six man, like a six man kind of fun. Like a TV, a dark TV main event was kind of the vibe, I felt. It was good. I like to eat the pen on that one. Oh, Blake, Blake ate it to Masha, I think, to set up the next. That they're going to go at it again. Their last one was so good, I want I want to see that again.
00:20:06
Speaker
Yeah, and I was like, Blake is. I think he is growing into the chickenship thing pretty well. There was some fun interactions with him in Cardona where Cardona was sort of like pumping him up, going like, yeah, this is my partner. He's the champ. And then he like ran away and Cardona was like, what the hell, man? I got to want to wrestle her. You know what? Like, OK, I guess I'll do it. OK.
00:20:35
Speaker
Yeah, it was a good, but it was, this is the, always the hard thing with GCW New York shows is that they just, they can't go too far. And so that's actually one of the reasons I liked being like the Melrose is okay. The Melrose is very close to me. So I liked the trip, but, um,
00:20:53
Speaker
being this ended up the GCW in New York is very much it's just like a very good indie wrestling show you know they can't kind of do certain things and so it just ends up being more like a more like a standard indie wrestling show but like a kind of an all-star show um and yeah so seeing one in what felt like the elk sludge was like oh this is actually this is better i like this better than the melrose which is like hot but also just not i don't know
00:21:18
Speaker
It's not quite right. That was the other thing. There's no, I felt like there was no bad angles in there, which I think is a good thing for an indie wrestling venue. Like you could kind of stand or not or sit or be kind of wherever and you'd be able to see the wrestling, which is good at a wrestling show. I remember one of those venues you went to, it looked like there were pillars around. I don't remember which one that was. It looked like you were in a nightclub or something. Oh, Laboom, the HOG shows.
00:21:46
Speaker
Not that one. You were at a GCW show, I thought. Where the hell were you? Was it the Melrose? The show where they dropped where Gage dropped the title and.
00:21:59
Speaker
No. No. Damn. Weren't you at one where like it was weirdly lit? I remember we talked about it like, I mean, this maybe was a couple months ago. I remember it was lit like purple. Um, where the fuck were you? Was that in New York or were you somewhere else? This is crazy. Did this even happen? It's unclear. It was a show and it was lit purple.
00:22:26
Speaker
Because I remember what the ones, damn, where else have they done anywhere else in New York City? Would you have been in Jersey? No, I haven't been to a Jersey GCW show since since I went to Boonton. I could have sworn it was like you and Tom at the show or something. And it wasn't. Or maybe was it a J.C.W. show that I'm thinking of like. Fuck, I don't know.
00:22:55
Speaker
I don't know. I'm going crazy. Swear to God you were at it and we talked about it. Be terrible content. I'm like going to go through and like, what was my event? Right. Where did I go? Where have I been? Who am I? What am I here?
00:23:13
Speaker
It's OK. So what was what were the highlights of the night? Like, I mean, everything I saw was good. I really I thought Maki Ito and Killer Kelly was fun. That was a highlight for me. I thought they had a really great match against each other just in terms of doing their bits. Right. Everyone was kind of into both of them. And I thought they they had a really fun match.
00:23:39
Speaker
I like GCW giving us more women's matches, like just two women fighting, you know? And getting to see somebody like Killer Kelly, who I don't recall seeing her in GCW before. Yeah, I think she's done, she might've done Bloodsport at some point. Oh, you know what it might've been, sorry, you know, it's true, but the GCW, the show in Jersey City, the,
00:24:09
Speaker
Jacob. Yes, that's what it was. That's why that is 100 percent what I was. Yeah, that one wasn't too bad in that. I don't think the pillars were in really bad places. That wasn't a that's not a bad venue, but not the not the best. I think it's a. Again, I like I really like the the tiered seating in the balcony. That was my favorite thing. I was just like, this is I can take a load off and watch the show and
00:24:39
Speaker
just enjoy my Sunday evening. What else happened? Richard Holliday was back. He wrestled Charles Mason and that was pretty good. They did kind of an interesting thing where Mason was like, come on, you're Richard, you're rich too. You know, we should be on our side together. And then they ended up wrestling each other and had a good, a good match. And then Pero peeped the crap out of him afterwards. Choked him. They could have started a tag called like the 1% or something.
00:25:09
Speaker
You know, though, I don't know. I think people want to cheer for Richard Holliday for a little while longer. He just beat cancer. And, you know, he was as did for the third time. Facts. Facts announced to public. Yet he's he's he's three and oh against cancer. He's it's he treats he treats cancer like like they're a dark jobbers.
00:25:36
Speaker
I just wish that they would quit booking him in cancer like Roman Reigns and Brock Lesnar. Like it doesn't have to be every WrestleMania. Let's take a year off this time. Yeah, they took a while and they came back to it, but then they went back to it again just too quickly, I think, you know, from the booking. Yeah, this was, this was too many times in a row. You've worn us out facts with all of the cancer. So just cancer needs to go away as go home heat.
00:26:05
Speaker
Mm hmm. Or go away. You know, I'm sort of like ex poc ex poc. Get out of here and find a new opponent for a while. Yeah. We miss you, buddy, and we'll see you. We'll see you soon. I also I will say so. You know, I'm not a biggest fan of the tag team of Nick Wayne and his little guy.
00:26:33
Speaker
They thought, I think they're matched with the guys who used to be called the Bang Brothers. Who's got a seasoned assist, right? What's awkward about them is that one of them's last name, wrestling last name, is Bang. And the other one is just Matthews. Shouldn't the other one just be Bro or something? If one is Bang, didn't make any sense to me.
00:27:00
Speaker
They also, it made sense though, because both of them, particularly the Waikea and the team, kind of look like the creepy skinny dudes from Porns. They just, they've got that look. They always look like guys that would wrestle at those Tolohoma wombat shows. And honestly, they may have.
00:27:23
Speaker
In Tallahoma, it's just down the street. They're filming the porns. Outback. Fuck you, Lauderdale, for not bringing that back to Tallahoma more often. That should be a once a year thing, that I get to drive to that town, eat at a Dairy Queen, and then go park in a paint store's parking lot while I get to walk down a hill to that venue. If I see Lauderdale again next year, I'll tell him, come back to Tallahoma. And he's like, are you going to go? I'm like, no, but my friends will.
00:27:55
Speaker
And book heater book heater. God damn it. Um, but yeah, they had a good, like it wasn't the best tag match, but the ending sequence was pretty fun. They like, they really kind of turned it up and had some cool. Like back and forth stuff. And, uh, yeah, it was pretty, I actually hadn't even realized that they had lost the tag titles to the Japanese guys.
00:28:19
Speaker
Wait to. Is it Zagura and. So two of the guys from Freedoms. So the guys that are going to have it in the cage match, then. Yeah, they won the tag titles apparently at the second end of Homecoming, which I did not watch. Oh, shit, I didn't either. Like they came out without the belts and I was like, wait, did someone steal them or something? Is that the angle or? And there was like, no, just they lost them to people who aren't in the country.
00:28:50
Speaker
Joey Janela and Alex Coughlin had that was, again, another match that started a little slow, but they just beat the shit out of each other. Um, Coughlin also said, I thought one of the more impressive things I've ever seen, like he was sitting on the ground. So there was a, the ring.
00:29:05
Speaker
there was like a stage area that was like right next to the ring, essentially, that had bands on it, but also had like a ramp. And so Coughlin sitting just outside of the ring and Janela's on top of him and Coughlin kind of catches him. And from a seated position, he gets him up. Did you see this, Garrett? I did. He got him up in a suplex position, but basically like from sitting.
00:29:33
Speaker
Like sitting flat on his ass legs out, like fully seated. He deadlifted a man. It was incredible. It's funny when you have a guy like him there because he stands out so much more than anyone else on that roster.
00:29:53
Speaker
Well, part of it sometimes is being like at a New Japan show, there's a lot of guys kind of like Alex Coughlin, but then you put him on GCW. Yeah. And you're like, oh, this guy is unique and different. And just in the way he carries himself and the way he wrestles. And it's kind of fun to see him and Janela bounce off each other. And yeah, I liked that. Again, it's it was a weird night because I was just like. It was all good.
00:30:21
Speaker
Like there wasn't a moment where I was like, this sucks. Um, but there was also nothing that was like, wow, I'm going to remember that, you know, a month from now. Um, I don't think that's a terrible thing. It doesn't mean that like, you know, it doesn't make you tell someone like you should go out and watch all this right now, but it was a fun night at the matches for you. Well, yeah, that's the thing. I think sometimes our standards are,
00:30:48
Speaker
Well, two things. I think in general, standards for indie wrestling got really high, especially during, you know, the last five years when some stuff really crazy stuff has happened that have been kind of amazing. The other thing, though, I would say is that, like, I think, you know, because of social media and stuff like that, you know, the.
00:31:08
Speaker
there is a priority to like, Hey, remember that moment? Um, as opposed to just like, that was solidly entertaining. I felt like I got my money's worth and I'm going to go back to the next one, not because something really one spectacular thing happened, but because top to bottom, it was really good. Yeah.
00:31:28
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I didn't watch the whole show. I watched like most, pretty much most of the second or the last hour, really. But that Janela match, there was just something to it that it didn't quite feel like a normal GCW match. It almost felt a little blood sporty.
00:31:46
Speaker
like where they were doing wrestling moves to each other. You know, they were just hitting each other with suplexes and hard blows. And it was fun to get to see Janela have a match like that and kind of reminded you during that early part of AEW where you would see Janela go up against the top guys and have legitimately fun wrestling matches.
00:32:11
Speaker
Yeah, it's a reminder of what he can do because I think he's often put in the position of working.
00:32:18
Speaker
not that match in GCW, right? Indie matches are working with the like, um, spot fest type guys or giving them sort of structure and things like that. And yeah, it was interesting to see him working with a guy who is going to be, we're going to throw some chops and we're going to be like, lay it in. Cause of course he can do that. He's always out there reminding you that he can do all the things. Um, and then of course at the end he got on the mic and challenged, um,
00:32:44
Speaker
Dear, dear Lord June Kasai for Corrigan Hall and said, let's have the best deathmatch ever. So I think we're all a little worried for Joey's health.
00:32:54
Speaker
it he might die over there. And I love that they're billing it. They are literally billing it on GCW is the best death match ever. Whoa. Which there that is the title of the match, which what was the the WWE match where they build that like is the greatest match against Edge. That's awesome. Was it? It might have been.
00:33:23
Speaker
Probably not. We reviewed that one all. If you go back in the archives, we've reviewed that match. And I think the answer was, I don't know, it was good. The fact that I have to ask, was it the best match? And I couldn't tell you a thing that happened in it. So, yeah, it was OK. I sort of remember it. But yeah, I. I think the
00:33:47
Speaker
The other interesting thing about Janela was that he said, like, I'm gonna do this till I die, and everyone started chanting, please don't die. And then he announced he was gonna wrestle June Kasai in a death match. So he's really playing with our emotions here, because we don't want you to die, Joey. That is really scary, because I have a feeling the shit he's gonna be willing to do in Japan is gonna be reckless. Yeah. Especially against...
00:34:16
Speaker
against him like Jesus. I kind of want to go back into like the June Kasai archives a little bit. Like I want to watch a little bit more all Japan, especially since Kawada was in the US and the pictures of him in the US have just been tickling me. Have you seen these? No, it's just Kawada. Kawada is just stone faced everywhere. Kawada standing with like
00:34:42
Speaker
Eddie Kingston, Stone Face, Kawada standing with Jon Moxley, Stone Face, Kawada with American Sushi, says it was too expensive, Stone Face, Kawada with Deep Dish Pizza, still Stone Face, Kawada standing with Conrad Thompson, cracked just a tiny smile. What? I assume Conrad had just paid him.
00:35:08
Speaker
You know what I mean? Like he just he got the moment right after he saw the check and was like, that's why I came to America. This is the last of Pop Pop's death money. Yeah, they're amazing. If anyone go look for them on the Internet, because they're tremendous, especially kawata in the deep dish pizza for some reason, I just love that.
00:35:36
Speaker
stone. He's just like, this is lasagna where I'm from. I don't know if it is, but I mean, he runs a restaurant now, you know, I love that he got American sushi. And was unimpressed at the price. Like, where would you I hope he got it in Hoffman Estates. Why is there syrup on the sushi?
00:36:06
Speaker
Sir, you're in an IHOP. The only thing that's open after Starcast. Do you think that IHOP was prepared this year? I hope.
00:36:21
Speaker
I hope. I bet, do you think they kind of missed the business after all out? You know, that's probably, we're just generally for the weekend, right? Cause there was a lot less happening there this weekend, this year. You gotta think the IHOP, maybe they prepared and they were like, they were just like, where'd everyone go? They were smelly, but they ordered so many pancakes. Anytime they were here, we were not participating in all you can eat pancakes.
00:36:51
Speaker
Um, because I ate that I have more times than anyone that I can reasonably. Anyone reasonable should have just because it was openly it was there. It was only food other than fucky rockets or whatever it was called. And of course, the the Mexican place in the in the the the nice sports place.
00:37:17
Speaker
The place that I'm pretty sure was featured in Thug Beatdowns 3 on Fight Plus. Oh my god. Yeah, I'm excited for that. That happens a few weeks from now. And apparently they're streaming that live on Fight Plus. So we'll be able to wake up in the morning and see if Joey survives. That'll be nice. I also saw that in two days,
00:37:41
Speaker
There on Fight Plus, I was kind of looking through it tonight just to see, because I saw all of MLW, like, MLW's just on there now. Maybe it has been for a bit, but it looked like two days, so Saturday and Sunday, there's gonna be a two-day deathmatch tournament at the Roxy in Los Angeles. But it didn't tell me who was on it.
00:38:06
Speaker
Um, and it looked like it may have been a Mexican promotion. I'm not sure, but it has my attention. I would, uh, I'll, at the very least I'll, I'll take a, take a peek. Cause I've been to a lot of concerts at the Roxy and I've never seen anyone bleed there. There you go. Yeah.
00:38:24
Speaker
That'd be interesting. MLW by the way, MLW bringing in Suzuki. And I think as a result, he's doing HOG in New York in October. So Fax and I got our tickets today. He's wrestling Jacob Fatu for MLW, which should be pretty fun. Ooh. Yeah, they haven't announced who he's wrestling for HOG yet, but it's Suzuki in a small room. I got to go see Suzuki as many times as I can. Are you going to take your daughter?
00:38:53
Speaker
You know, I hadn't thought about that yet. They end those shows relatively early. It's a Friday night. Um, it's in like a club in Jamaica. So I don't, but I'll think about it. Maybe, maybe. Do you, do you remember that little kid that was around like all star cast weekend that got to interview like every wrestler just because it was a little boy that was going to ask them questions? Yes. I'm just saying, I'm not saying we should exploit your daughter, but like,
00:39:20
Speaker
You could probably get a Suzuki interview if there's a little girl that wants to interview him. You know, scary guy, your daughter, it's. I'm just thinking about what she would ask, you know, what would she ask Suzuki? So was the world. She's the newest news correspondent for Brita Derman. Minoru, why are you so scary?
00:39:46
Speaker
Child, I'm not. Some people just look different than others. And it's a real Sesame Street lesson in the end. Or he just turns and he's like, he just like, here, here, watch what I'm gonna do to your father and then tell me if I'm scary. Why I'm scary. You need an elbow. I'm your father now. We're going home to Japan.
00:40:16
Speaker
No, no, no, he stays in America. Remember, it's our Gilmore Girls reboot. You have to go back to Brooklyn and move in with your ex because he is taking your family now. She might take me back. I don't know. It's worth knocking on the door. You know, you got to live somewhere.
00:40:44
Speaker
Did Tom go with you to the show? He didn't. He didn't end up making it. He had some kid thing. So he and Andrew. Yeah. Andrew and I hung out and enjoyed the enjoy the show. Is Andrew the strongest guy of anywhere? Not that I'm aware of. I'll test him next time. I'll just be like, Andrew, you're going to and here's a bar. Please bend it and see how much you can bend it.
00:41:08
Speaker
Well, I saw that on fight, there's a bunch of UK strongman competitions and I just kind of want to watch them with Tom and get his commentary. I haven't seen Tom and like over a year now, at least. Well, I think I think you guys doing live commentary to UK strongman competitions is a great episode of the podcast that I'm curious about.
00:41:34
Speaker
Anyone with a fight TV subscription. God, yeah, no, maybe we'll do that as a, we'll bring back the old bonus zone episodes and me and Tom do that. Did the bonus zone count in the 200 or no? I did count the bonus zone. Should I have not counted the bonus zones? What's the question? That's, go either way, I don't know. There weren't a lot of bonus zones. I think the bonus zone really happened. At the beginning it happened,
00:42:02
Speaker
when we had done a show and then there was a big pay-per-view that following weekend. And then it became things like when I was in Chicago and I would already have microphones set up and something fucked up, queued up on the TV so that Derek would walk out of his room groggy, I would have already hit record, stick a microphone in his face and make him watch something.
00:42:30
Speaker
Guys, if you haven't come back in the archives, there's a lot of good stuff there. I guarantee that. Watching him watch that Marcus Crane gets skewered through the mouth like he had been awake for 90 seconds.
00:42:51
Speaker
Yes, I was at the Fatou thing, right? He he was on the show. He came out. So it's funny. I went. I saw the grim reaper was going to wrestle this other guy. I was like, this is my chance to go get a cherry seven up. And as I was walking back upstairs, I heard everyone go, oh, and I was like, someone came out. And it turned out it was Jacob Fatou to beat everyone up and wrestle up Mance Warner. I loved.
00:43:20
Speaker
Was this your favorite match of the ones you watched? Cause you were saying there was something you liked better than the main event. So I think it honestly, I did. I think the Joey match probably of what I watched was my favorite, but this was very, very fun. Uh, fought to maybe the most beautiful moon salt of anyone in wrestling right now. It's just picture perfect. And the way he just floats upside down.
00:43:46
Speaker
It's an interesting juxtaposition of the fact that this man screams motherfucker more than anyone I've ever seen wrestle. Just at random times. And he just like, he's just, cause I was thinking, I was like, you know, these GCW shows in New York were relatively tame in a lot of ways. Like, could I take Maddie to one in the future? Maybe. Um, but then I was like, Jacob Fatou can't be there. Cause.
00:44:11
Speaker
Grim reefer can though. I like that you're just like grim reefer came out and I treated it like a funka funka dactyls or funka. Was it really the funka dactyls in WWE? They were the funka dactyls. Yeah. You're like, I've treated it like a funka dactyls segment in 2010 and hit the bathroom. It wasn't reefer. It was the other guy. Oh, I'm sure.
00:44:38
Speaker
But not the Fatou, like he, I don't, I feel like I don't get to see him a ton. Where is, I mean, to see MLW mostly. I think it's MLW and also just stuff that, yeah, just less like he does West Coast stuff a lot. He's done some HOG, but HOG has been bouncing. Like that's, they're not on fight plus anymore. So that's part of it. I think there too. Yeah, they had a really great brawl. They were fucking with doors and just moon salted the door, which was incredible.
00:45:08
Speaker
I beat the crap out of each other. It's just just terrific. The one thing I will say, though, was that one of the doors appeared to be already bloody and I was trying to figure out what was going on with that. Like there was blood on it when they took it out. Like who was bleeding just during the afternoon? And why was it? I mean, Jimmy Lloyd.
00:45:33
Speaker
I mean, it could have been a door that was stuck back under the ring at a different show that had not been broken and got put back in the trailer. I guess that would be the only logical thing, either that or maybe it was too close to the ring canvas, because I will say. Look, I'm sure they attempted to make a cleaning of this canvas before they used it.
00:45:56
Speaker
But watching this show from like a vertical angle right down on top of the ring, you could really see that those bloodstains are never coming out. And there were a lot of them. And they've been using this ring for a while because one of the sponsors that was on the ring was Sammy Guevara Vlogs. That was what I was going to bring up next. What the fuck? I don't remember ever seeing that on there.
00:46:22
Speaker
It must have been for one of the weekend type shows in 2018 or 19. You gotta think this wasn't after he signed, so it's gotta be like, it can't be later than 18 or 19, earlier than 18 or 19. Yeah, there's no way that Sammy like 2022
00:46:43
Speaker
You know, one of the four pillars is putting his fucking YouTube channel on the GCW. Did I don't think Sammy ever even wrestled a GCW show, right? I mean, it seems like he must have. Because I mean, I definitely the first time I saw Sammy, I think, was at PWG and then I saw him wrestle a lucha show in Nashville the year I moved here.
00:47:12
Speaker
But I don't remember Sammy Bean on any GCW shows. It just and and it's hard to I'm like literally looking at the cage match now and not. I mean, if he did, it was not frequent. There were not a lot of them. It's like buried in here somewhere. If there was like one or two. Unless he was just like, I'm just sponsoring this. I mean, I'm not going to wrestle here, but
00:47:44
Speaker
Sam Roberts is doing it still, so. But again, is he still, or are they just using a thing he spent money on in 2018? I guess what we're finding out is we should have put our name on one of those mats a long time ago, because then it just show up for the next six, seven years.
00:48:07
Speaker
I mean, that's where maybe that's where we got to get in and some promotion and just sort of stick. Cause you know, indie wrestling, they're not changing those mats over just in general a lot. So we just got to get our name on one mat. How much would that cost Garrett? I bet more than you'd think. I mean the printing. If I bet if we, if we print a canvas and send it to someone, they'll just take it.
00:48:32
Speaker
It's beautiful. It has GCW logo on it. Just our name is in the bottom corner. Right. Right. I mean, I think if you go low enough on the Indies, you'll even need to put their logo on it. They'll just take the free mat. So were you excited to see old Mancer? I feel like it's been a while since I've gotten to see him live. I don't really know what Mance is up to these days.
00:49:02
Speaker
You're right. It's been a bit. Although I got to see him. That's my song was maybe like April for MLW. So it hasn't been a crazy long time, but it feels like he he in the second year. I thought he was done earlier. No, he's back. He's back. What the fuck? He wrestled Matt Cardona at the last show.
00:49:22
Speaker
So after all these years of freemancer, he, what does he have Stockholm syndrome? Like he realized he's just back. I don't know what his, I don't know what his contract situation is. Garrett, perhaps he negotiated better this time, but yeah, he's back in MLW grass is always greener on the other side. It is. Um,
00:49:45
Speaker
Yeah, it was interesting because it feels like they've kind of floated in and out, but it's always nice to see those guys. And obviously, especially in a hardcore match context. Although there was a weird moment in this match early on where he did the five knuckle shuffle and then into the STFU. Mans was just feeling the John Cena love. I mean, there's a time when maybe he was the John Cena of GCW.
00:50:16
Speaker
Was there? I don't know. He's the only guy that people are holding signs up of his face. Fair. But no one, is anyone booing Mancer? That's true. Well, no one's booing Cena now. That's true. People have given up on that. They're just like, eh, it's fine. At this point, it's exciting because you get to see a movie star and he's not there every week and he's probably going to lose this time. It's true.
00:50:44
Speaker
He is gonna lose this time. But yeah, I thought that might've been my match of the night, was that one. I really liked, it's just a really good brawl, really fun brawl. I could see that one being a one that's even more fun to be at. Yeah. Because there's just the excitement, there's a lot going on, very violent. Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes those brawl matches are ones that it's like, you feel it more in the crowd than you do
00:51:16
Speaker
And I mean, yeah, I mean, it's really good at home still, but like, I don't know, it's more of a situation when they're like going through the crowd and you can actually hear the crack of the chair live. Yeah. Yeah. And I will also I think when you've got a good so some of those matches sometimes are like not the best if they go in the right place, like you can lose track of them in the wrong room. But if you've got the right view of everything, like it was yeah, it was great. Like I could see everything and enjoy and appreciate
00:51:45
Speaker
kind of all the angles of it. And yeah, then the main event, well, we talked about the six men, and then the main event was Rina Yamashita and Mike Bailey, which was super fun. It was good. Yeah, that was really good. That was a fun pairing that I wouldn't have, I don't know if I would have thought to put that match out on paper, put them together. Yeah, it was really interesting to see Rina work
00:52:14
Speaker
that kind of work ratey or type of work rate, but even just sort of like more just not a deathmatch, right? Just traditional wrestling. Like when you see wrestlers like her do that after having for the past few months, at least pretty much just see her bleed, you kind of forget like, oh, she can do moves. She can do cool shit that she doesn't really get the opportunity to do or
00:52:42
Speaker
I guess she could still be doing that in a death match, but maybe it also depends on what your opponent can take. Well, that's the thing, probably from a physical perspective, Bailey's much easier to do stuff with than, I don't know, Alex Cologne or whoever. Yeah.
00:53:00
Speaker
Yeah, good job. And they announced at the end that they're coming back December 3rd. So obviously it's a way out, but I think I'm in for that. I think I'm going to head back and experience the memories of a past life and eat at Shake Shack and, you know, do my thing. Well, and then what Wednesday you have Arthur Ashe, right? I do. I'm pretty excited. I think they've announced a pretty great lineup for that. Yeah. MJF against Samoa Joe.
00:53:30
Speaker
Our beloved Tony Storm against Saraya. Okay. Yeah. Jericho against Guevara, which that's a really weird, that angle's been very, very weird. Did you see any of the promo they had on Wednesday? No, so they're fighting each other now. They're fighting each other, but they still love each other. But it's about respect, but
00:53:56
Speaker
It's kind of not, it was very, it's, uh, it was okay. That'll, but that'll be okay. Um, mocks against Ray Phoenix, which should be great. And, uh, I think the sentimental main event fucking Eddie Kingston against Claudio two titles on the line. Eddie Kingston going for titles against Claudio in New York. I think we're all going to lose our goddamn minds. That's a lineup that when you hear that,
00:54:27
Speaker
It bums you out a little bit that it's only a two hour show. Yeah, I mean, they're going to have to. You know, a couple of those aren't going to get a crazy amount of time. I'm actually kind of curious now that they have collision if if rampage is still going to be two hours, because while I mean, it's been fun when they've done the two hour rampage, the good matches, it's also very long.
00:54:52
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, you'd have to think, though, going in a bigger place like that with that crowd, it would still be a fun worthwhile. They have to be they would have to have something to keep you there. They're not they're not hitting you with who dicey like when I hit with Griff Garrison versus Ethan Page. No, I just want I really just prefer a good single hour of wrestling, though. After after my dynamite two hours.
00:55:19
Speaker
We'll see. That's, that's fair. I'm excited. Like, I like a, you want a little hour dessert wrestling after your main course. You don't need two full meals. Well, that was the other thing to say about the GCW show was that it was exactly three hours. With an intermission. No intermission. Just, just straight through the, sorry, there were, there was an intermission, but it was the Bobby Flacco, grim reefer match.
00:55:49
Speaker
Uh, I wish that, uh, Oppenheimer had had a grim reefer match in it so that I could have gone to the bathroom. I will say the one thing I didn't get, I have to leave more time next time. Cause one of my favorite restaurants in the world is over there. It's called the chocolate room. And it's just a dessert place. Um, I used to go there sometimes and I have dinner. I would order fondue for two for one.
00:56:18
Speaker
and just dip a bunch of stuff in chocolate and eat that and just be like, I'm going to take home a pint of dark chocolate sorbet. That's my evening. Were you with somebody or you were literally there alone? No, yeah, I was just like, hey, I'm going to walk over to the chocolate room now and have dinner. Did you bring a book? Probably. I was in law school at the time. I was probably studying or something.
00:56:41
Speaker
Mm-hmm, that's, yeah. That's brain food. Yeah, yeah. They move to a bigger, the old chocolate room is a different space, but they moved up the block into a bigger space. It's just, it's still fantastic. It's one of Oprah's favorite places, you know, she said. I didn't know, but next time I'm in New York City, Bhutan chocolate room. I mean, I know Bhutan's not in New York,
00:57:10
Speaker
Yeah, we'll just sit there and we'll just, uh, we'll listen. We'll just enjoy exactly. Hopefully that's what I was actually hoping for. I was hoping they would announce a boot and JCW show for like the Saturday, but yeah, maybe there'll be a weekend. Garrett, where you can come in, go to boot and go to the chocolate room the next day and watch wrestling two nights in a row. I mean, that could be a classic.
00:57:33
Speaker
Speaking of stuff that we talk about all the time on this show, now that we got to Bhutan, I feel like we're getting closer and closer to talking about Beastman now that we're nearing the end of this show. They announced, have you seen the people that are going to be at this Beastman show, this Appalachian Joe? I think I saw the poster, but I don't think I processed it. It's who's on this card?
00:57:56
Speaker
I see the Bev, I see Mark Henry, I see Moose, I see Ron Simmons, Shane Douglas, Demolition, Dr. Tom Bridget, Tommy Rich, Matthew Justice, Beastman. When is this? Very top of the page. Who do we see there? Oh, it's the nasty boys, guys. It's the nasty boys. Who else we got on here? We got Facade, we got Powers of Pain, Jimmy Hart,
00:58:26
Speaker
This is Saturday, October 7th at the Boyd County Community Center. A champion will be crowned. Also, I took an opportunity to screenshot this because we needed to discuss this. On this poster is Aaron Stevens, EC3, Tom Latimer, and
00:58:56
Speaker
And that guy William Patrick Horgan. Yeah. Yeah. Looking just slightly less scary than Vince at this point. On October 6th and 7th in Cleveland, Ohio, there's a rare opportunity to wrestle in front of and be critiqued by NW owner WPC along with NWA world heavyweight champion EC3, Aaron Stevens and Thomas Latimer.
00:59:21
Speaker
Don't miss your opportunity. Email office at control your narrative.com for info on signups. Oh, they're bringing back the act control your narrative.com here. So here's hear me out. Right now there is a price you can pay that means that Billy Corrigan and EC3 have to watch you wrestle.
00:59:51
Speaker
How much is that price, do we know? Well, we have to, I'll tell you, I don't fucking trust sending EC3 my money. You're like, we're doing a cash transaction here, okay guys? Right up front, you know. I'll give you half now and half when my match is over. And I'll tell you this, me and Chris are doing a Broadway. It's like neither of you have cardio.
01:00:20
Speaker
It's like, yeah, well, we well established that we have better cardio than Jimmy Lloyd, who is also here as a special guest referee. Their website's changing, by the way. It says something about a CYN cooperative. It's coming soon. Well, it's like a co-op, like a grocery store owned by the employees. I guess. The EC3 is going to be selling organic apples soon.
01:00:52
Speaker
Control your fruit. But I did find the merch page is still active. And I think the prices might be going down finally, Garret. How much are the shorts? Because he... I'll take a look. He's gotta be sick of those boxes being in his closet.
01:01:21
Speaker
EC3, when you're ready to clear that closet out, you give me and Chris a call because a bucket shirt will take them all. No, the shorts haven't gotten cheaper. They're still $25. Still available in all sizes. The cheapest T-shirt is $15.
01:01:46
Speaker
What, 15? That's cheaper for sure. Yeah, 15's starting to get to where I'm considering this. Once again, who knows if you fucking get it though? It's true. I don't know if we tried to- Right now, the only indie wrestlers to have stolen from me are Ali Cash and EC3.
01:02:10
Speaker
Do you think do you think do you say anything on the thing about like what you have to send to be able eligible? Hopefully not pictures. I was going to say, I bet based on what we saw, I'm wondering if you got to send a picture of you have to answer whether you're married or not. And if so, you have to send us a picture of your spouse.
01:02:43
Speaker
Oh my god. All right, you three show promise. It's prima nada time. Here, you wrestle in front of Tom Latimer while I go backstage and have your wife sign some papers. I'm like, who's Tom Latimer? He's the guy that watches you wrestle while I fuck your wife.
01:03:12
Speaker
How committed are you to the National Wrestling Alliance? And then I look over at Ms. Dow and I'm like, how could you? And he's like, I don't know what's happening, man. I'm just here. Job's a job. It's either this or a call center. Actors are on strike right now. He's the only one who'll pay me.
01:03:41
Speaker
Thank you. Oh. You're like, is it really worth it to spend this much time around Billy Corgan? You're like, yeah, look, he keeps calling his dick a bullet with butterfly wings, but it doesn't really matter. The checks keep clear. Oh, my God. Like, I'm trying to who else from that era of music
01:04:09
Speaker
It's just like, yeah, the guy from Mudhoney owns MLW now. You know what's weird? How has Billy Corgan not signed Nate Webb and Weetus? Oh my God. Yeah.
01:04:34
Speaker
Honestly, his decisions have baffled me since the beginning, so I'm not gonna start trying to question it now. You gotta also think, well, how friendly were smashing pumpkins with rancid? Do you call Lars Fredrickson to get to CM Punk?
01:04:57
Speaker
I think that Lars Fredrickson has enough, I feel like he's a big enough wrestling fan that he could watch one episode of this and be like, I don't wanna play music here. I don't know. Yeah, you're right, what am I saying here? Seriously though, who is this guy? Tom Latimer? Yeah, are you familiar with him? He was someone in TNA.
01:05:26
Speaker
Bram, maybe. He looks like he might actually be, um, fuck, uh, best friends. Oh, uh, Trent. Yeah, he looks like Trent's brother, her cousin. Was he the one? Yeah, he was married to Charlotte Flair. Really? Yeah.
01:05:53
Speaker
Look at all three of these guys. Look at the schnoz on these three. They all have the exact same nose. It's a weird side effect of steroids that we've never noticed. God, I think we're done. I don't think we can top EC3's pre-monocta scam. You're right. Let's control our own narrative here, Garrett.
01:06:24
Speaker
And actually I do have one last question. You said you saw Mittens in New York? Oh yes, he was at the show. I was looking for him. He seemed like he was in good spirits. That's good, we were all wondering.
01:06:41
Speaker
Do you think that we could, what do you think it would cost? Like I say we stop trying to put our name on mats at wrestling shows. Let's just gather all of these guys and like the he'll be part of our like Howard Stern's whack pack. Like he'll be our Beetlejuice. Oh, you are absolutely right. And I'm very excited for that. Yeah, I think so.
01:07:07
Speaker
There have to be like more to that of that, like those wrestling characters that we could bring in every little bit and just give a little interview to plus mittens will hold up a podcast sign during a show. You know, absolutely. If we go a flag for him to hold. Yeah, it'll be on every major show across the United States. Yeah, everywhere.
01:07:34
Speaker
Just mittens just touring around the world. It doesn't matter to him anymore. See him punk. He's given up. He couldn't give him a reason to live. It's true. We're good people, Garrett. Very good people. Sorry. I just pictured myself as like EC3 believing that sentence coming out of my mouth. I'm a good person.
01:08:01
Speaker
We're good people with good narratives and good short shorts. And reasonably priced. Yes, but no comic books.
01:08:15
Speaker
Oh my God. If you want to be good people to give us a follow at pre-determined podcast on Instagram at guard that at Chris Miggs at Jimmy facts, AKA Jimmy Lloyd's IMDB page. We'll be back next week with episode 202, which might really be my 200th episode. If you take out all of those bonus zones, let's bring back the bonus zone and watch some onita.
01:08:39
Speaker
Sure. And some let's do it. I want to watch some death mansions with us. All right. Love you guys. Have a good week. Hit our god damn music