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Buddy Nestor
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Buddy Nestor is an abstract painter who strikes a strange new chord with portraiture. Using photographs he takes of beautiful women, he creates grotesque, distorted creatures, their features uncomfortably recognizable within the melting forms, slashes and swirls of Buddy’s abstraction.
“These physical and psychological images are my attempt to capture the true nature of humanity. They are spiritual X-Rays. The models that I use in my work are all beautiful women. However, there is nothing beautiful about the portraits I create.”
Mr. Nestor was born and raised in Collingswood, New Jersey, a suburb of Philadelphia, PA. As an only child “Latch Key Kid”, he spent endless hours in front of the television, watching movies and drawing and gravitating toward strange cult and horror films. In 1999, he traveled around the world on an aircraft carrier, and painted everyday. He received his B.A in Fine Arts shortly after his return to the States.
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Introduction to Podcast and Guest
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Speaker
You are listening to something rather than nothing. Creator and host Ken Volante. Editor and producer Peter Bauer.
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This is Ken Vellante with the Something Rather Than Nothing podcast. And please, this episode to have Buddy Nester, incredible painter, artist, and just a wild, just an encounter with Buddy's art for me as a wild experience of one which has had me thinking since I first saw his art.
Early Art Experiences
00:00:41
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Buddy Nester, thanks so much for joining Something Rather Than Nothing. I just wanted to welcome you to the podcast.
00:00:47
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Hey, thanks for having me. Absolutely, absolutely. Hey, buddy, I was just wondering, when you were younger, did you see yourself as an artist? Did you do art things? What interests did you do? I mean, like, if you go back to being real, I think I always sort of did. Even, like, you know, say at certain points, like,
00:01:14
Speaker
But maybe I wasn't creating art, like, you know, like, like middle school kind of era, you know, where you kind of chase girls around or into sports or whatever. I always thought of myself as an artist because I drew all the time as a kid. And I, I was an only child also. So I spent a lot of time, you know,
00:01:35
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entertaining myself and drawing for sure was a great way to do that. So, you know, I started drawing, you know, and coloring and all that from the time, you know, you can hold the crayons or someone's willing to give them to you without, you know, thinking you might eat one. So yeah, drawing. It takes a little while. Yeah. Yeah. And my mom will still talk about, but I was really like, like,
00:02:04
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ain't only specific about details like if I was and you know this is this is going back like pre kindergarten like if I colored out of the lines like and I guess I just knew like
00:02:15
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what big posters look like or what like photographs look like. So like drawing, I remember specifically like drawing out of the lines and I was just using brown on like a monkey cartoon or a coloring book and I'd lost my fucking mind. Like, like almost like, you know, like blubber puke crying. Yeah. Because I, you know,
00:02:38
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Uh, went outside of the lines, which now I think is pretty funny because what, you know, the stuff that I do for fine art is, is very like, you know, a lot of the paint's thrown or sanded or kicked or squished or, you know, it's, it's certainly not. Like the details are kind of like lost. So it's, I'm kind of the exact opposite now when I make, make work. It's a kind of, maybe, maybe almost a loss of that control is important for me because in a certain way I'm.
00:03:08
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You know, I want to have that control there. Yeah. Like, um, I could see at least initially, as far as like the contours of the body or certain parts of the body on some of the recent images of the mouth or the face and that the contours in the borders are what, what you're working on. But back when you were a kid, you, you didn't want to go beyond that border or you kind of lose it. Right.
00:03:34
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Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. You know, and you think like, I guess in your mind as a kid, you have a what you think might be the perfect way of doing something like that. And it's, you know, it's very specific. Now, like when I'm painting, I want to play and, you know, find a new way to do something, you know, a new way to paint possibly.
00:03:55
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Yeah, absolutely.
Influences from Horror and Music
00:03:57
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Buddy, I've read some of the things you said and listened to some of your podcasts and such and learned a little bit about you that way. One of the pieces I connected to was kind of the influences, maybe in your thinking, your work, it doesn't matter. The influences on you of things like film, TV, in particular horror. I'm a big
00:04:20
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I'm a big horror fan. I love Doom, Doom Metal in particular. And this show kind of has gone into different areas, such as Friday the 13th fan films and Doom Metal and some death metal. But, you know, so we range a bit. But for you, those influences for me are pretty heavy and psychologically as far as what I produced. But what about the TV films that you like, horror movies?
00:04:50
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What's that? What's that for you? Uh, I just, just now got done watching a horror movie called Tentacles. And, um, to anybody that listens to this, don't, don't watch the movie Tentacles. Um, it's not very good. There it is. I didn't know we got to, we got to review. Thank you, buddy. We'll add that into the show. Yeah, I finished that up like 10 minutes ago. Um, but, um, uh, I was,
00:05:15
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I was really interested in horror movies from the time I was super little. Like, you know, if I had the dates laid out in front of me, like movies like The Omen and Exorcist, I mean, they were super heavy for me. And I'm going to say, try to think of where I was living. I was probably four or five.
00:05:41
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you know, watching those and, you know, and this was like early era cable TV. So, yeah. And my mom, you know, she was fine with me watching anything. Like, I guess as long as there wasn't really sex in it, like then she might have been bummed out. But like if it was just people getting their heads blown off or yeah, killing, killing, killing. She's totally fine with it. But I just remember being like, you know,
00:06:07
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Other movies were fun to watch, but that like, that like real, true, like welling up of fear that you get as a, you know, four and five year old seeing these things on film and kind of thinking they're real was super effective. So, you know, there was only so many channels. So I would watch those movies. Like I probably watched the Omen as a five year old or whatever, 30 times.
00:06:31
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You know, just because they're constantly just rerunning them because there was really, there wasn't a lot of channels and there was a lot of content, you know. So those affected me and kind of stayed with me. I watch a lot less horror now because it doesn't really, it doesn't get me the same way, you know. And, you know, and I think now, I mean, I know, and I'm jumping about 42 years ahead, but
00:07:01
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I remember making, like when you start painting, like you get to a point where, or at least for me, like, you know, you learn a little bit about color theory and you kind of get a set of skills and like, okay, now you can paint. So just because you paint, can paint doesn't mean you can make a good painting at all. You know, you've got to have a subject matter, an idea, style, whatever, concept.
Art Exhibitions and Audience Reactions
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And I, you know,
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I've been showing in galleries, almost from the time I was painting, really from the first, probably the third or fourth painting, I found a way to get these things into galleries, which doesn't mean they were good paintings, per se.
00:07:44
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But I was getting them in the galleries. Like part of me thought they were important enough that they really should be hung on the wall. And, you know, the whole community world had to see them. But, you know, you've got to have some of that audacity. Right. So, so, you know, at the time, I would say like, you know, early on I'm averaging like a month, you know, because speed wasn't really there, like a month to work on something. And, um,
00:08:10
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You know, you put it up and like like I had some like kind of like low level museum shows and really nice gallery shows kind of early on with some neat people and and probably better artwork. So.
00:08:22
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I'd go to these things, and I didn't really know anybody in these art communities. So I'd kind of be by myself with my plastic cup of wine and just watch people like meander past my paintings without even tapping the brakes to look at it. So going back to the way these horror movies affected me as a kid, I was like, I have to create, or at least it didn't have to be horror.
00:08:51
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But I wanted to kick people in the face and just hit them with the gavel on top of the head and just stop them and ring their bell out of their day for a second. At least make them stop and give it some time. If I'm going to take a month, I'm going to give them a reason to give me 10 seconds or more. And that really was directly
00:09:18
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Not from horror movies, where I was like, I want to make something that's not like, hey, maybe it's not somebody getting their heart cut out. But I want it to be that heavy. So that kind of led me down this path, where people look a little more for sure now. And I'm always asking new questions to see if I can get that to work better. And it is.
00:09:49
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a tricky place to play in when you're trying to scare the fuck out of people really without giving them direct scary images.
00:10:02
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Well, on that, you got an exhibit at the Dark Art
Art as a Mental Health Outlet
00:10:08
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Emporium. I'm new to that. I looked at some of their stuff and I feel like... Yeah, it's just fantastic. I see they do a podcast as well and I know it exhibits a devil's doorbell.
00:10:22
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You had a relationship with the Dark Art Emporium. By the way, congratulations on seeing that. I always love to see somebody having an exhibit like that. They've done such a nice job advertising it and such. But a little bit about your exhibit there? So it's owned by Jeremy Schott, who's a great guy who I just really started talking to, say, within the last year.
00:10:51
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maybe two years. I've had a couple pieces in here and there. So I'm new with him. Jeremy Cross, and they call them the Jeremy's. Jeremy Cross is the curator. And Jeremy Cross really put me in my first art show where I was in with my peers. I had done all these art shows before that were community
00:11:18
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community galleries or, you know, it was a lot of like me and Sunday painters, you know, kind of thing. And Jeremy Cross was doing something very different than was happening with Contemporary Art. It was him and another painter, Cam Rackham. And they would curate these shows in Los Angeles at a place called Forgotten Saints. And I'm going to say that was in like 2008.
00:11:46
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Um, so it's going back 13 years. So I, I went out for that. Like I, you know, it was a show where, um, it was a lot of the artists I liked and also like clown from slipknot had a six foot painting in it. Max Kevlar from Sepultura. So it was like, they were getting all these like.
00:12:06
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rock or metal dudes in there to do artwork. So for that to go from like kind of community gallery and all of a sudden I'm showing with dudes from Slipknot and Sepultura, I was like, all right, I'm flying out for that. This is really cool. And it wound up being an amazing show.
00:12:23
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Jeremy didn't exactly fully meet and hang out. It was a melee. This gallery, before they opened the doors for the opening, had lines around the block. It was kind of crazy. I hadn't been to anything like that.
00:12:38
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Fantastic. Wow. But since then, I've shown in a lot of those type of galleries, the darker galleries, for the most part. And then I curated, I think I've done six or seven shows now. And I've had Jeremy in those shows. So he's come out to the East Coast. A lot of those are like New Yorker Philly, where I did those. So Jeremy would come out. So I've had over a decade of relationship with him. And he's a fun guy, makes great art, and does really, really great art shows.
00:13:08
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Yeah, we have a long relationship there. Yeah, fantastic. That's great to hear. And thanks for sharing about that. I always like to learn more about that. And I got to I got to fully admit, I saw a couple of details about the metal and Sepultura and and the type of paintings that were there. I'm like, man, talk about a jamboree. That's a gorgeous thing you got going on there. That's great. Yeah, absolutely. Good. It sounds just great. A great, great thing to hear about.
00:13:38
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I wanted to ask a couple of big questions, buddy, because I like to agree. Oh, you're saving the big ones? We're going with the big ones now. I got a couple. I'll get a couple easy ones. I'm ready. I think I'm ready. I got a couple of easy ones I'll slip in there, too. You start to lose your footing. I'll be like, hey, that vanilla ice cream. Quite the thing, right? But I do have a big one, because I want to know, what is art?
00:14:10
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Oh, I mean, I can only speak for myself. I mean, most importantly to me, it basically keeps the gears turning in one side of my head all the time, whether I'm painting or not painting to keep me half sane. And, you know, I know a lot of it seems like goofy to say, like a million people have said, like it's like therapy, but
00:14:40
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You know, I really think everybody should do art and that doesn't mean that a lot of great art would come out of it, but I think people's mental health would be better if they did.
00:14:52
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But it always keeps the wheels turning on one side of my brain, like whether I'm driving, I'm painting, I'm at the supermarket. I'm always kind of thinking about the next step in a process or maybe an idea that I've got rolling around in my head. So I think it keeps a lot of the, not the demons at bay, but just the bullshit from building up in your brain. So for me,
00:15:17
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Again, you can do it to make money, but most importantly to me, it keeps me mentally healthy for sure. You get to create a whole new language if you're lucky enough or you work hard enough.
00:15:36
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Yeah, you know, it's interesting to people. You know, that's why there's museums of all this shit in every major city in the world, really, because it's it's interesting. And like, you know, some of that stuff was worthless in its time. And now, you know.
00:15:51
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They do tours of thousands of people each day go and view it and discuss it. So this stuff is important to people. It's brain food. So from my own personal mental health and staying calm, that's important. But also being able to throw a new idea out into the world that's never been seen is pretty cool too. Even if you have just one fan that really latches on and gets into it,
00:16:21
Speaker
That's enough. If you really affected someone's life like that, that's enough. And if they pick up a paintbrush, even better. That's awesome, too. That's really mostly what I want is to excite people enough to start painting. Yeah. I really appreciate your thoughts, buddy. And there's a lot in there that
00:16:42
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deeply interests me. I thought about when you're describing some of the things about art, and particularly healing components, I find that sometimes during this show, the category question is not clear about what we're doing, right? Because at a certain point, it doesn't matter whether somebody's a painter or they're a singer, and at a certain point, it's not quite clear
00:17:10
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what type of performance or what the art is, it has to do with the person or why they do it or the experience of the viewer seeing the art compared to the process for you in creating it. There's so many vantage points to go at it, but one of the things that keeps coming up, buddy, is about
00:17:34
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healing and about language and about the power of it, um, that keeps, keeps it, uh, be really compelling to me. And there's a lot of psychological aspects. I ended up talking about a lot of psychology, you know what I mean? Yeah. And it's, you know, it's, it's really hard. I just, I, cause I mean, for me, I, I I've taken certain breaks here and there and I, I can tell I'm more wound up and bitchy. Um,
00:18:01
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when I'm really not in a normal work schedule of just sitting in the chair in the studio and getting some stuff done. But it's hard to say exactly what it does. But it does turn the frequency down and calms me down. But that's my moving meditation. Otherwise, I've been buying art books since early high school.
00:18:32
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And looking at this stuff, other people's work is highly important too. It's really entertaining for me, and it shouldn't be. If you think about painting, it just sits there and does nothing, but it is. It's visual entertainment that just sits there, 2D, flat, not moving. It seems like something that shouldn't even be considered now.
00:19:00
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You know, people could have screens all over their house now that, you know, at televisions, $100, they could replace all their artwork with little screens and just have rolling pictures all the time. But for some reason, these images are beautiful and entertaining to us. And they still I mean, I have a whole library room dedicated to just art books. And and I love those things. Like I cherish those things. And I can't put my finger on that. Like, why do I give a shit?
00:19:26
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you know like why why did I give a fuck when I was a little kid but but I've always been super I got seeing seeing a painting that moves you is like is like this crazy magical thing you know and I still I still get hit like that like it's a little harder for me with music which I
00:19:44
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I definitely sought out pre-internet as a kid. We were finding out about bands right when they came out. I was very interested in digging for music and finding new music. And now somebody will give me a band once a year.
00:19:58
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get really excited about. But painting, that's constantly happening. I'm constantly seeing new artists that are that are super exciting to me visually and doing thin. You know, I guess it's from looking at it for so long and have a sense of the history and kind of contemporary history of what's going on. When I see I can I can see when somebody's doing something that's totally new and that that excites me for sure. You know, yeah. And it's
00:20:26
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the power of that feeling. I heard the magic that you talk about. I have that experience too and I appreciate you mentioned art books and it is peculiar how we, I remain attached to them as a source of learning and inspiration. But it does seem, it does seem arcane at times, doesn't it, as you paw through them, right?
00:20:44
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I mean, sort of. It's, you know, it's like I like I understand, like, if I put Slayer on, it's going to blow my head off, you know, or if I put a movie on, you know, there's CGI and it's amazing in the sound. But like, you know, these especially, you know, when we're talking about paintings should be boring as paintings just sitting on a wall. A photograph of a painting in a book should be almost nothing.
00:21:08
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But yeah, they to me, they're super important. And I mean, I guess they're important to a lot of other people because the books are expensive as shit. So yeah, no. It's that's OK if it's it's your book and you have a market for it, but they are. Yeah, they are. They can be expensive.
Art Evolution Post-Pandemic
00:21:25
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Hey, I was wondering your thoughts, buddy, on art, art now, you know, talking about what is art, but what about art now? I mean, people have been
00:21:38
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Some people have been talking about it in the pandemic. I know I have on my podcast saying, you know, is it more important? What's what's arts role right now? You know, we're here February 2021. I mean, I couldn't say anything. I haven't. I mean, well, I'm looking mostly for me, I'm talking about painting when I'm talking about art. Like right now, I'm a fan of everything else as well.
00:22:07
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I mean, painting moves pretty quickly because of, say, Instagram, but painting and painting styles move pretty slowly in general. So I think probably in another six months, we could probably see a definite turn of styles or subject matter as people get more and more annoyed and depressed from this pandemic. But I think the sheer amount of work
00:22:36
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has has gone crazy just because there's nothing to do other than get your ass in the seat and get some stuff done. So that that's that's the only real positive thing I can see. I don't see any, you know, the the movements changing just due to, you know, this this pandemic happening. You know, I feel like like for my work specifically, like
00:23:04
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Things were kind of okay for the last, you know, maybe short of, uh, you know, 2008 when everything fell apart. Things were kind of okay compared to a pandemic, but there's like an underlying sadness, depression, like a pull into, you know, whatever friends, acquaintances die, you know, here and there, you have fights with people, whatever. There's that, that grit building up in your, your brain and, you know, and your soul a little bit. So like, I was trying to show that.
00:23:34
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in a time where things are kind of okay. Now that everything's fucking horrible, I don't even know if I want to paint what I paint. And that doesn't mean I want to get darker because it's a much darker time. Like, I almost, you know, want to paint some flowers and puppies and shit because, you know, because I don't want to be reminded that how shitty things are out there. And, you know, and people are dying all over the place from this.
00:24:01
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Invisible bugs, you know that we're all breathing at each other. It's it's fucking scary Yeah, sure. So like we don't need as much scary as I thought we did before so for me like I'd say, you know I don't know if I like want to kind of paint happier shit because of this, you know, it's kind of an opposite world at least the way I see it I'm sure a lot of people are gonna latch on to it and
00:24:23
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I mean, painting-wise and photo-wise and most certainly video-wise, there's going to be a sense of history of how bizarrely strange and 28 days later this whole thing was.
00:24:39
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to go through. Right. It's a balance. It's like, Hey, maybe maybe we're talking about the origin of your, uh, balance and harmony period, right? To counteract, right? That's where it's going to come out of the balance and harmony visual arm.
Influences and Misconceptions
00:24:55
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All right, buddy, you grew up. I mean, I think you grew up out on the East Coast. I did. Geography for this question doesn't necessarily have to dictate its answer. But what wonder who made you who you are? Oh, fuck. Everything. Yeah. Everything I've ever come. I experienced really. I mean, I yeah. I mean, I I think right now I'm
00:25:20
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I'm being brainwashed by you a little bit to become who I am five minutes from now. I mean, we're constantly taking in information that's informing the people that we become. So. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have a specific like I did. I wasn't horribly abused or anything. That's what we're getting. Are we? No, no, you could be like, you know, somebody. There is nothing that like set me like down a specific path. No, no.
00:25:48
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I mean, all the art that I took in movies, entertainment, you know, and like, it's not all metal and, you know, and horror movies. Like, I like comedy and I, you know, I like, you know, fishing and a walk through the park. I like the beach. Like, I don't just like dreary shit. And like, I certainly don't like dress like a goth dude. I'm informed by everything. And I
00:26:15
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I think some of the, especially like in the dark art realm, like people kind of hyper focus in on that stuff, like dark literature and art specifically, movies, music, whatever. I'm open to all of it. I'm kind of more like in that realm, like a frat boy where I really don't give a fuck about like the label and I kind of enjoy the openness of being able to
00:26:44
Speaker
I don't know, just dig whatever I want to, and really allows me to say whatever I want to say. I don't have to go down a dark art hipster road. I can kind of be myself, which is a little more goofy than, say, dark. Yeah, yeah. And I totally connect with that, too. I wonder about that tension, and I'm sure you must see it a lot, where what you create becomes
00:27:12
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It has a tone or has an interpretation and people connect with that and you can still be like, Hey.
00:27:18
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you know, there's a person behind it. And in that dynamic, I think a lot of people try to infer a lot from the work back into the artist. I don't get it as much now. And I mean, like, like I said, when I started really showing in gal, like, and and once I showed like, you know, with Jeremy and those guys, like, I stopped submitting to galleries, like all of a sudden it was on.
00:27:44
Speaker
And I was getting hit up by galleries constantly after that. So my schedule just filled up completely. But again, so it's 2008, 2009. I had just gotten on Facebook. That was probably around the beginning of Facebook. And I'm uploading these images that not too many people have seen, unless they've been to these galleries specifically. Now people in dark art realm kind of know what it is.
00:28:14
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But yeah, right off the bat, like people were saying, they thought I was a serial killer and, you know, all kinds of other horrible shit. And, you know, like I was a soccer coach and I played darts two nights a week in leaks. And, you know, most certainly didn't have time to go serial killing. So, you know, and, you know, when I, when I say Facebook was new, people didn't really know how to use it.
00:28:39
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So, I mean, they still act, you know, comment threads are extremes on either end. It's like, you're the best or you fucking suck. You know, there's never like, hey, you're just okay. But back then it was even weirder. You know, like people didn't really know how to act on there and they, you know, that, um,
00:29:02
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that disconnection where you're behind the keyboard was way bigger. By now, people probably have gotten punched in the face for saying, some girl's beautiful and the boyfriend figures out where you live and he punches in the face. There was no accountability in 2008. And people really didn't know my artwork. So yeah, the extremes on the way they reacted to it were really concerning at first.
00:29:25
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Right. And then then I just had to laugh it off and just say, like, all right, well, you know, this person that says I'm a serial killer, I'm pretty sure they're an asshole all day long and just do asshole things. And I'm not, you know, I'm not going to be bothered by that stuff anymore. I got a big question for you, buddy. Another another softball. But go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know.
00:29:53
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Why is there something rather than nothing?
00:30:04
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I don't know if homework helps. I guess I just have to go. I mean, it's a weird asked question. So I'm gonna have to go the weird route and just say that like, there's something because we're here to experience it. My senses allow me to experience these things around me and that's why there's something. Yeah. That's it. I can't go on at length about that weird question.
00:30:30
Speaker
No, no, that's, that is funny. I mean, seriously, completely credible, completely credible answer. Absolutely. Hey, before I let you go, I actually had a question about
Art Creation Process
00:30:47
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about your process of, just the basics about the process of how you make your paintings. I was struck in some of the descriptions I read about how long it takes and how many steps there are in your process. And I know I might seem mundane to you or I don't mean to be intrusive, but I was wondering if just kind of like an outline when somebody sees some of the images that they'll see before or after this podcast,
00:31:13
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what is that? Yeah, the thing that, you know, and again, nobody can go to galleries right now to see anything, which sucks. Like, yeah, especially with the Dark Art Emporium show that, you know, just finished up doing it, working on, you know, it was basically 18 total paintings on which were pretty big and nobody can go. That was kind of a moment. But I mentioned that because
00:31:40
Speaker
Let's say early on when I started putting my work up on Facebook and had a website and whatever, a lot of people thought my work was digital. And they're either looking at it on a laptop or 99% of the time they're looking at it on a phone with a three inch screen. So everything blends together and looks like I played around in Photoshop. But if you go to the gallery,
00:32:09
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These things look like they're run over half the time. When you say there's lots of layering and all, I kind of start them differently each time. But as I build layers, it depends. But usually, I'll spray paint the head in with a white, gray, and black on top of a gray base.
00:32:39
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So that right away, and I do it outside of my backyard, even if it's windy, so that I'm losing control right away of that person's face. So my base for that person is already screwed up. And from there, I'll usually brush paint a bit on top of it. And this is all gray tones.
00:33:05
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Then I come in with graphite and kind of do these little kind of snail trails outlining things, which is something I did as a kid with like newspapers. Like if you have a, you know, somebody's cheek that has a highlight on it and you take a pencil, you know, the higher white part versus the darker part, and I outline the white part in a dark pencil, that white part's coming out at you all of a sudden.
00:33:33
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You know, like it kind of floats up off of like the lower value of the gray, you know, the white.
00:33:40
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pulls up, which I thought was completely magical as a kid. And I definitely ruined some newspapers every single day. So it's something I still do now 40 years later or whatever. So I'll do a lot of drawing and then kind of interweave all three of those things. So then I'll spray paint again, brush paint again, some more pencil, and then I'll bring in glazes. So I mix a matte medium with
00:34:10
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a varnish and I just use primary colors red blue and like a sand yellow and I intermix them with grays and all this stuff the grays I use for everything that's that's all it's all acrylic it's all floor paint that you know is meant to be walked on and painted on and cement so
00:34:33
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So then then, you know, at that point, I'm I'm I'm glazing thin layers of colored tinted grays. And then, you know, later the, you know, the really heavy like, you know, the red blob stuff comes on. But, you know, those are those are pretty simple as far as figuring out how to do that. Man. Wow. Was that boring enough? I was trying to keep it really boring.
00:34:59
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And part of the problem is for the host in a good chunk of the listenership that is a gift to us. Thank you very much, buddy.
Where to Find Buddy's Art
00:35:07
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I was wondering before we let you go, if you could point us in the right direction as far as where to find your art, your images, the art that you do. So how can folks find you?
00:35:24
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I don't keep my website up anymore. At some point, I will. But Facebook is just my name. It's spelled, my last name is Nester, N-E-S-T-O-R.
00:35:37
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It'll if you've there's only a couple of us out there, but if you find it's either one of my paintings or some totally ridiculous thing is my icon. That'll be me. Instagram, it's buddy dot nester. And again, and any S.T.O.R. So that's that's where you're going to find most of my artwork on the Internet now. Oh, great. Hey, I'm serious. Thanks. It's great talking to you. Good to meet you, man. Yeah, just really.
00:36:06
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really great work and um thank you deeply for your time and hope we get a chance to talk again buddy yeah thanks yeah i'll do it anytime just hit me up thank you take care now all right see you bye this is something rather than nothing