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Episode 109: Little Trunks Do Something To You Psychologically
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This week the boys are chatting Dark Side of the Ring Brawl For All, PWG, WWE news, a Fred Durst directed film and more!
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Introduction and Podcast Landscape
00:00:34
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome back to Predetermined. It's episode 109. So grab a seat on the couch, crack open a white claw, and let's hang out. Let's chat pro wrestling. I'm your host, Garrett Callender. And I'm the other guy. I'm the other host, Derek Halpin. And we have a, well, a proverbial stacked show because
00:00:54
Speaker
Last week's show was primarily focused on WrestleMania and this week we got stuff that happened last week plus the stuff that happened this week. So we're filled to the brim with pro wrestling chatter. Plus Derek has a special message for anyone who's listening for the first time.
00:01:14
Speaker
What's that? I don't know. He just put me on the spot? Yeah, it sounded good. Well, if this is your first time listening to the episode, hey, thanks for choosing this podcast. There's a lot of pro wrestling podcasts out there and we're glad that you made time for this one.
Podcasting and Wrestling in Lockdown
00:01:32
Speaker
Hopefully you'll be entertained over the course of the next hour as we talk about things like semen and things that happened to us when we were kids and shows that we used to go to and current events.
00:01:46
Speaker
So sit back and enjoy the ride you got a front-row ticket to the freak show Yeah, if there was a freak show on a public access station you've run into it
00:01:59
Speaker
Yeah. What did they say? What was the thing that we talked about? Was that a week or two ago about how many podcasts are officially on iTunes now? Yeah, I believe there was officially one million podcasts. We are a grain of sand on the beach at this point.
00:02:21
Speaker
And approximately 750,000 of those are pro wrestling podcasts. So the fact that you've ended up here at all just warms our hearts. It warms our hearts. And to the people who've been listening for a while, you know that familiar sound. That is my co-host opening up a white claw to start the show.
00:02:41
Speaker
But for our regulars, hey, we're glad you're still listening. To our friends, thank you so much for sticking with us. Especially in these hard times when people are just craving content and entertainment out the wahoo, which I haven't said in a long time.
00:02:58
Speaker
I don't know that I've ever said Wahoo. You've never said out the Wahoo? I don't believe I have. I think in this scenario, Wahoo is an asshole, like a butthole, like an anus. Yeah. So people want entertainment out the ass. And what can we provide to them that Netflix doesn't?
00:03:23
Speaker
That's a good question. I think we have all the stuff that Netflix isn't covering is in this show.
WWE Employee Cuts: Impact and Ethics
00:03:35
Speaker
And we'll talk about the stuff that is on Netflix too. So it's a two for one.
00:03:42
Speaker
uh how what have you been doing on the weekends when you're off work to what is your new hobby like since baseball's dead like what do you do to pass the time these days this has been the hardest part of the lockdown which i'm glad you brought this up because um
00:04:00
Speaker
This is a time of the year where I'm usually outdoors quite a bit more and my life has turned into a routine of going to work and coming home and playing Animal Crossing and having dinner, playing Animal Crossing, and then going to bed and doing it all over again. So, yeah.
00:04:23
Speaker
So you go to work, collect money, come home, you pick up sticks to collect bells. I think among all the activities that you can do in Animal Crossing,
00:04:37
Speaker
I don't know actually the whole thing is it's filling some void in my life for sure because I get this feeling of responsibility and and like I'm getting go outdoors and do things like plant a garden and collect items aimlessly for my home but I don't actually have to put myself at risk so the weird thing is this game came out at the perfect time and I don't think anybody would dispute that
00:05:03
Speaker
Hey, our avatars are going outside so we don't have to. Correct. What was that? Last... Was that last Thursday? Was that a week ago?
00:05:15
Speaker
Six days ago? It all runs together now. I said this was episode 109. Is it? Is it? Is it really? What day is it? See, the status of Sealand is that the days of the week don't matter anymore. You just exist and continue existing. I like Sealand is the name for where we live now instead of... It is.
00:05:38
Speaker
Instead of what? I don't know, Earth, the United States, sea land. I stole it from the movie Zombieland. They constantly refer to Zombieland as Zeland, and this is kind of like that, except it's coronavirus land. So it's sea land, or COVID land, depending upon how scientific you want to be. Sea land, not scientific.
00:05:59
Speaker
has nothing to do with the C and has to do with the letter C. But no, last Thursday on the Nintendo Switch version of Animal Crossing, I host a little potluck get together that you were in attendance for and ended up being even more fun than I anticipated. This is true. I don't know if I'm comfortable talking about this. This is diving pretty deep into my personal life.
00:06:26
Speaker
Do you think that you're going to get judged by our listeners at this point? No, I'm joking. I had a great time. Your character showed up and I did provide you with a new pair of tiny pink shorts. Which are still on my guy as we speak. Booty shorts as they're calling it in the streets. But not right now because you're supposed to be indoors.
00:06:50
Speaker
Uh, yes. So we are getting a lot of entertainment out of animal crossing. That is primarily 99% of my entertainment these days. Uh, the rest of it is me watching AEW and dark side of the ring. And some of that stuff that we were talking about on Netflix a moment ago, you broke out DVDs that I didn't know you even had to get your wrestling fix for this week.
00:07:13
Speaker
Yeah, I broke out a bunch of PWG DVDs and the other thing that I do is I like to watch a good bad movie. And I have that is yes.
00:07:27
Speaker
I like when somebody tries really hard to make a good movie, but it sucks. I have to tell you one that I watched just over the weekend. It was called The Fanatic, directed by Fred Durst of Limp Bizkit.
00:07:43
Speaker
Fred Durst is directing films now? Oh, he's been doing that for a while, Derek. I didn't know this. It's okay this hasn't been an episode.
Dark Side of Wrestling: Brawl for All & Vince McMahon
00:07:51
Speaker
It's okay that you don't know this. Is it? Yeah. You don't have to see Fred Durst movies. I did it so you didn't have to. Well, how come you've never done that any other time for me? This would be a first. You're an asshole for trolling me. This is gaslighting at its finest.
00:08:10
Speaker
Well, this movie stars John Travolta and Devin Sawa. And it was about, is Devin Sawa Stan or am I thinking of somebody else? No, that's Stan. And he's basically roles reversed in this movie. John Travolta plays
00:08:30
Speaker
I don't know, I would say he's a challenged adult, but I don't think it was in the script that he was to be challenged. I think John Travolta made a decision, and Fred Durst was too afraid to question his actor's choice. You're like, this is the dad from Look Who's Talking, how can I talk down to that man? He's got a sweet like bowl-cut mullet, and the very first line of this movie is him saying to a comic shop owner, I can't talk long, I gotta poo.
00:09:01
Speaker
That's the first dialogue you hear? That is the first dialogue you hear out of John Turst. I thought that was hilarious. Oh, and then partway through the movie, Devin Sawa throws on the CD player, a CD player for his son and says, you should listen to this. This is limp biscuit. We loved this in my day. That actually happened. That happens in the movie. Oh, I'm.
00:09:26
Speaker
I knew I was in trouble when the production company was Redbox Entertainment. I didn't know Redbox made movies. Well, they're going to not be making movies very much longer if they keep up with this trend. Oh, Wes Borland did do some animation in the movie as well. Good for Wes. So this is basically Limp Biscuit Presents the Fanatic starring John Travolta. Why would I not want to watch this? What are you talking about?
00:09:53
Speaker
Well it is on Amazon. I'm making it seem like you were a fucking martyr for everybody and now I want to know what I'm missing out on. It's that fucking scene in Dewey Cox, the like walk hard or whatever. You don't want none of this shit. You don't want none of this shit, Derek. I think I kind of want it. That was my John C. Riley. I'll tell you about the time I went roller skating with John C. Riley. The fuck?
00:10:21
Speaker
it wasn't like this is just now coming up it wasn't like just the two of us but uh it was a tribute to prince night at prince's favorite roller skating rink and uh they were having you know prince night so everybody was dressed up and skating to purple rain john c riley was there dressed as prince you know skating his ass off having a great time did you skate alongside him i did because i at first i had to ask myself is that john c riley it was indeed
00:10:52
Speaker
And so you made your way over. Did you hold hands while you skated? No, but we
Wrestling Content Exploration: Netflix and Nostalgia
00:10:56
Speaker
definitely skated slow to Purple Rain next to each other while we were both singing it. I'm really upset that this is just now coming up. That seems like a bucket list item for some people. You love Prince. John C. Riley is fantastic.
00:11:18
Speaker
I mean, that's all there really is to that story, I'm sorry. Well, let's pick two. What's your favorite John Travolta role? What's your favorite John C. Riley role? Ooh. That's two different Johns, but give them both. John C. Riley, let's go the guy in What's Eating Gilbert Grape that's gonna open the fast food stand in town. That's my answer too, so good pick. The Burger Barn. That's a good John C. Riley.
00:11:46
Speaker
The burger bar is going to open up. They're going to give me a job. I'm going to be salting some fries, making some shakes, flipping some burgers. My favorite John Travolta character would be Nicolas Cage playing John Travolta in a face-off. Oh, shit.
00:12:05
Speaker
See, I've never had a deep attachment to John Travolta, so my answer is going to be his fucking character from The Punisher, Howard Saint. We saw that in theaters together. I thought that would make a lasting impression on you. It also has Kevin Nash in it. Kevin Nash is a pro wrestler. Hey, what's going on in the world of pro wrestling? We're coming back around.
00:12:29
Speaker
And besides, we already brought up Limp Bizkit. That's about as much progress as we need. Yeah. We've established long ago that as soon as you bring up Fred Durst, it's okay. It falls in the wheelhouse of wrestling. Correct. Um, so yeah. So you watched the fanatic and then you were like, Oh man, I need to cleanse my palette. Here's some PWG DVDs.
00:12:53
Speaker
Dude, God, this was so nice. This was really what I needed over the last few days, was just a trip back to Reseda. So what year are these from and what were you, like have you watched these before? Were these ones that you bought and then put aside and now you're finally getting around to?
00:13:11
Speaker
Some were shows that I had actually attended, that I owned the DVD of, that I hadn't watched it since the show, since being at the show. But other than that, I have some compilations that I haven't watched anything on. And the first one I threw in was from the Young Bucks. It was called Five Stars. The first match that caught my eye was the Young Bucks versus Kenny Omega and Chuck Taylor from 2009. Well, holy shit.
00:13:42
Speaker
That's 11 years old. Uh, Chuck Taylor looks like a baby. He's got very shaggy hair. Was Kenny as shredded back in 2009? He wasn't quite as shredded, but he did just wear the little trunks at the time. Little trunks do something psychologically to you on certain guys, you know? Like sometimes it doesn't work.
00:14:01
Speaker
In what way does it psychologically fuck me up? Well, I'll put it to you this way. Bobby Lashley came out wearing pants on WrestleMania, and for some reason it changed how I felt about him. Did you think he was cooler? Yeah. Yeah, there's something about hiding your knees, I think, that really does make you cooler.
00:14:25
Speaker
You seem like a combatant and I don't know, this is pro wrestling. A lot of people wear the tiny tights.
Personal Relaxation and Listener Engagement
00:14:30
Speaker
I don't know why it fucks me up so much. Do you remember in WCW, Billy Kidman wore the wife beater and then the jean shorts? Yeah, I always loved that. Yeah, me too. Then when he went to WWE, he started wearing actual like wrestling shorts and I just, Billy Kidman was done for me. Like that was it. Speaking of Billy Kidman,
00:14:53
Speaker
Oh, fucking boy. So we have to get there. I think we do. We do because it's the, it's the biggest story and it's, I don't know if this is going to be worthy of a dark side of the ring one day, but maybe, I mean, WWE has done their spring cuts for a long fucking time, but the big story today, as we were recording this, maybe the longest and most, uh, high profile list of cuts they've ever done in that company's history.
00:15:24
Speaker
I was expecting some of the names on here, but I definitely wasn't expecting probably the top three that are listed.
00:15:35
Speaker
I mean, most of the ones that hit me hardest were not even necessarily the wrestlers, but like losing Mike Keota, the referee who has been there since 1989. He's the longest tenured referee, I believe. And because of a pandemic, they cut ties with him.
00:15:55
Speaker
The one also like Fit Finley. Fit Finley fucking Lance Storm. Lance Storm two months ago sold his wrestling school to go work for WWE backstage. Oh my God. I didn't know that.
00:16:12
Speaker
Yes. Lance storm. And this is the thing and I'm, we'll get back to Lance storm here in like 10 seconds. You can say what you will about Eric Bischoff. Bischoff did something similar. Bischoff had a nice life living in Cody, Wyoming with a nice like ranch in the middle of nowhere. And he was happy.
00:16:28
Speaker
And he sold that and moved to Stanford, Connecticut to work for WWE. And then like a couple months later, Vince was like, on second thought, nah. And then he had to pack up again and go back home probably to buy a different place. Lance Storm gave up his business, his passion, sold it. And then two months later, he was like, sorry, Lance.
00:16:56
Speaker
Oh fuck. So Fit Finley, Lance Storm, Hurricane Helms, all backstage people that got let go. Kurt Angle, Billy Kidman. Kurt Angle and Billy Kidman. First of all, we need to give a shout out to Fit Finley for a second because he has been
00:17:14
Speaker
such a key element for that women's division. He has helped train most of those women and has been their biggest supporter and has helped shape the women's division throughout every show of WWE. That you mean in like NXT everything. Yeah, like he's been like and he's been there for a while as like a road agent too. But like he's helped train the women like he's a big fucking deal there.
00:17:43
Speaker
That's and this is these are people we're talking about before we get to the actual wrestlers
00:17:49
Speaker
Like we haven't mentioned the fact that I haven't seen the complete updated list because it felt like every 30 minutes there were two or three more people being added to the list. But gallows and Anderson got released. Zach Ryder and Kurt Hawkins got released. Rusev was the big name. I felt like the biggest name maybe of the talent. Like you said, angle Sarah Logan.
00:18:14
Speaker
Rowan same get really released to I don't think she got released. I don't think she was renewing. OK, I think I just I heard her name come up a bunch, but the canalises. Yeah, both canalises, the colognes, no way Jose. Yeah. I mean, we don't want to disrespect it, but the list goes on and on and on. Fucking did you see Drake Mavericks video? Oh, it was heartbreaking.
00:18:45
Speaker
I mean, they just posted that they had profit gains of what, like 500 million. Yeah. It was something like they had a $500 million in reserve and then they were already banking profits for this year or something. And yet here we are. And yet WWE is making donations to the right people in Florida to be deemed an essential business, but their workers are not an essential part of that.
00:19:16
Speaker
And if somebody wants to argue with me and say, hey, WWE has been stockpiling talent unnecessarily the last few years, I'll completely agree with that. I don't think that they were using most of those people or at least a lot of those people or using them correctly or had a plan for them. And a lot of them may be better off not being in WWE. I just think this is a shitty time to decide to fucking let people go.
00:19:41
Speaker
Well fucking remember, what was it like two, three months ago? Mike Kanellis was asking to be let go and they wouldn't let him. I mean, is that hypocritical to be mad that they're letting him go now? Like went like, it's like, Oh, sorry. The pandemic you can go now. I mean, this is not a matter of them doing any, but they're not doing this as a favor to these people. There is no Indies right now. Wrestling is on like, like pause.
00:20:13
Speaker
That's true, at this point, wrestling on 205 Live was, that was the Endys. That was our only Endys. Our main event or whatever the fuck is that still on? But I mean, the point is, is this like, it goes back to people are ripping into fucking Strowman again because people are like, I hope Strowman has that same fucking energy that he had like, you know, a month or so ago when he was ripping Indie wrestlers for trying to make money.
00:20:42
Speaker
while this shutdown's happening. Well, it's like a bunch of your coworkers have just been turned into indie wrestlers and they can't go out and fucking work indie shows. And it's not like AEW or Ring of Honor or Impact is gonna sign all of these people, maybe not even most of them.
00:21:02
Speaker
I know that this is still pretty fresh, but is there anybody on here that you would already see in your head as somebody you would like to move to a different company? Absolutely. Who would you like to see go where? I would like to see Mike Canales maybe go to AEW with Murray. I mean, I know he can wrestle.
00:21:31
Speaker
Um, I would like to see Rusev wind up somewhere. He is talented. He knows how to- Aidan English! Aidan English and Rusev both got fucking released today. Do you realize like a year, year and a half ago, or however long the fuck that was, how over those two were? And they did it themselves. They did it organically.
00:21:54
Speaker
So I don't want to hear from somebody fucking toe in the company line for WWE saying, well, if you get over with the crowd, then they, nothing can hold you back. Well, unless they don't like the fact that you got over, uh, where do you see a guy like rusev going? I don't, I don't know. I mean, if he's not able to retain the rights to the name, I mean, he can, this is the thing rusev can wrestle.
00:22:22
Speaker
Like, I've never really had a problem with Rusev's in-ring work. So, I mean, I don't know. I mean, the thing is, you can make an argument for a lot of these guys. They could be repackaged and sent anywhere.
00:22:36
Speaker
Do you remember when they, how long ago? I mean, Rusev was like an undefeated beast for like a year. Yes. He was putting everybody out. He had the most popular, I guess, I mean, that was when Lana was still his valet. That was huge. And then he lost to Cena at that mania and he still came back and had a good career. He resurrected his career a couple times.
00:23:07
Speaker
I mean, I don't know what else you got to do. I mean, some of the like, I'm sure that maybe somebody like Sarah Logan could get picked up by AEW for their women's division. Where do you see Anderson and Gallows going? Maybe back to Japan. People would be really hyped to see them show up again. Yeah. I mean, what if they go back and be the leaders of the Bullet Club? They could.
00:23:35
Speaker
I don't know. I mean, there's options. There are options. If they don't want to go back to Japan, I mean, that would be a nice pickup for Ring of Honor, to be honest with you. I don't know. There's a lot of names. If we were to go sit there and go down the entire list, you could come up with, but like I said, if you repackage somebody and actually handle them the right way, they could succeed anywhere. I, I just know that there is always going to be the glass ceiling in WWE. I am sure.
00:24:04
Speaker
that it was a really disheartening day for everybody working there. Especially with the way that, like I said, they paid off the politicians in Florida to make them an essential business. And then turn around and fire everyone despite having large profit margins. And the rumor is, what I read earlier, is that cutting all these people saved WWE about $4 million.
00:24:34
Speaker
the same price it costs to have Bill Goldberg wrestle at Saudi Arabia and WrestleMania. Are you shitting me? Yep. That's the case. Ooh. I mean, I mean, here's another, and I do not want to guilt trip anybody. I do not want to make anybody hate on this person that I'm about to mention. How do you think edge feels like he's back on a big money fucking deal.
00:25:03
Speaker
worked his ass off to come back and then comes back and then like a couple of weeks later, a huge portion of young talent just got gutted because of WWE making budget cuts. I mean, I know that fucking Goldberg and Lesnar don't give a shit. I have to imagine it's crossed his mind, but if it wasn't Edge, it was going to be somebody else.
00:25:27
Speaker
Well, I'm not saying he should feel guilty. I'm just saying it's got to be a weird spot when you know you're making that top guy money. And you know that like a lot of these guys on the undercard have been working the live events every weekend that they've been, you know, they've been full time wrestlers and they were the first ones to get thrown under the fucking bus.
00:25:49
Speaker
And like I said, if this, if there wasn't a pandemic going on and this, these were just guys getting released and they could go work for AEW and they can go work for ring of honor and they could go to Japan, they can go work the indie scene and they could be the, like a guy like fucking Mike Kanellis could show up at AEW or not AEW, but AEW or somewhere else and have an autograph line to make a sizable amount of money that night.
00:26:13
Speaker
Yeah, he would do great at a WrestleCon. Right. But right now, you get released and you go home. And you hope to God that this doesn't last another year. Well, I think as I'm looking at the names on here, isn't Zack Wright a really good friends with Cody?
00:26:34
Speaker
Yeah, I'm sure a couple of those guys are good friends with some people in AEW. Well, he's got a healthy action figure habit, and he's going to need some work. It's just a shame how quickly things can turn around. And to be honest with you, Garrett, and I know I've said this a million times, it really kind of left a sour taste in my mouth today. There have been cuts before. There's just something about the last couple of years. Yeah, crack open another claw to cope.
00:27:04
Speaker
Um...
00:27:10
Speaker
I just haven't been, I'm going to be honest with you Garrett, I haven't been watching and I haven't had a desire to watch. I watched mania, but I didn't really watch in the weeks leading up to mania. I haven't watched since mania. I haven't had an interest and how many, and how much of that is just related to the fact that over like the last year or so, especially with like the Saudi Arabia stuff, um,
00:27:34
Speaker
I just continuously get burned out by feeling like I'm being ethically challenged. It's like, how much more abuse can you fucking watch and still show up? You know, our friend Eli told me he hasn't watched since the first raw of the new decade. Wow. And he said he's been happier for it.
00:27:58
Speaker
And honestly, I think we would. I guess he has a wrestling podcast, too. So if Eli says we don't have to watch them, fuck it. So for the time being, again, I wasn't watching much anyway, but right now it's just like. If you're going to be that shitty, like just blatantly shitty.
00:28:22
Speaker
Like, I mean, the fucking wrestlers need to unionize or do something. I mean, it doesn't help that I'm coming off the heels of last night's dark side of the ring where I find out that Vince McMahon may have been trying to fucking cover up Jimmy Snooker murdering his girlfriend. Transition point. I just don't want to, like, I know that Vince has paid for wrestlers to have rehab for drug and alcohol problems,
00:28:50
Speaker
I don't really think he takes it that seriously. And how much money are we actually talking? But he's also done a lot of shitty things. I think I'm just kind of over WWE for the time being. And I'm definitely not dumb enough to sit here and tell you I'll never watch again. I like pro wrestling, they do wrestling, so.
00:29:06
Speaker
Well, one last Vince McMahon thing before we, I guess there'll be more Vince McMahon, but one more negative thing before we just move on. I'm currently wearing a hat for the St. Louis battle Hawks, which I said
00:29:26
Speaker
Early on in this XFL season, I need to get a Battle Hawks hat because I probably won't be able to get one next year. We need to talk about that, you're right, because this is a part of the story too. Like, the big story, or the big rumor was that they were financially prepared to do this for at least three seasons.
00:29:51
Speaker
That was the big thing is they went into this with the mentality that they were growing a brand and they had the financial backing to make it through three seasons to establish themselves. And the fucking pandemic hits were in Sealand now. They cancel sports across the board. Was the XFL's future riding on them being able to finish out the rest of those games?
00:30:16
Speaker
I don't think so. I don't know. I think just with the uncertainty and because it would be so hard to just pick the XFL back up after or next year when it's like, oh, you mean that thing that had a half season last year and one season like 10 years prior? Well, right. But I mean, the thing is, there were there were a lot of people who liked it.
00:30:40
Speaker
It got a lot of positive reviews. It wasn't like the first incarnation of the XFL. They took themselves seriously.
00:30:49
Speaker
So it's never good to see people lose their jobs, and that's kind of what this segment of the show has been about, has been the sadness over people losing their jobs. It's just fucked up that the guy, and I said this at the time when he brought the XFL back, and despite the fact that I enjoyed it, I'll continue to say it, it's fucked up to sit here and wonder, did him investing all that money in the XFL and then declaring bankruptcy over the whole damn thing,
00:31:16
Speaker
Did that contribute to a bunch of wrestlers losing their jobs today? It very well could have. That's so fucking stupid. I would be pissed. So you don't want me to wear this hat anymore? I should wear it to every wrestling show forever now. That is a rare limited edition St. Louis Battle Hawks hat.
00:31:44
Speaker
and probably won't be more who knows but uh no you continue wearing that thing it's it's gonna be it's technically more rare than xfl merch from the first time because they actually finished their full season this hat is based around fewer games this is a hat that i only had four weeks to get
00:32:06
Speaker
Yep. Wow. Okay. Okay. So now we have to move on to the thing. I am so fucking excited to talk about Derek. I'm so excited. Well, we're going to talk about dark side of the ring, right? Absolutely.
00:32:21
Speaker
So why did you all of a sudden, I get a text from this guy today cause he finally got around to watching last week's dark side of the ring about the WWF brawl for all. Why did this tickle your fancy so much? Cause it caught me off guard.
00:32:37
Speaker
I just like I believe what I said to you was I get along with everybody in this one. Is that your way of saying everybody's perspective on this was you agreed with? Put it this way. This was the only time I ever wished that I could watch something with Jim Cornette. Why is that? Because it looks like we would have laughed the exact same amount and all the same shit. He just he's like, look how fucking stupid this is. I'm like, I know, right, Jim Cornette?
00:33:08
Speaker
And all of this, so if you didn't watch last week's episode of dark side of the ring, WWF brawl for all happened in the late nineties. And it was during the build to WrestleMania 15, um, where they were having the idea started from Vince Russo, where he wanted to have a real, a tough guy competition amongst the wrestlers where they would have what is essentially like a freestyle boxing match.
00:33:36
Speaker
because he wanted to see who the toughest guy in the locker room because he had heard Bradshaw. Yes. JBL that Bradshaw, the one we love on commentary so much Bradshaw was bragging about what a bad-ass he was. And Vince Russo wanted to see someone knock the fuck out of Bradshaw. I love that's how the idea started.
00:33:55
Speaker
I love that so much, Derek. And it made me realize that how petty Vince Russo is, I would be Vince Russo. He was just a wrestling fan that got put in charge of booking. Bradshaw was a dick and he wanted to see him get punched in the face. That's the story. And you relate to that. I relate to that so much. I think we're all Vince Russo in this. I do not agree with that.
00:34:22
Speaker
This is where Cornette would strangle the fuck out of you if you heard you say that part. He suffocated me on his couch with a pillow right now. Fuck Jim Cornette and fuck Vince Russo. They deserve each other. The thing is, I can't remember if I recall, do you recall watching any of these?
00:34:47
Speaker
when you were watching WWF in the late 90s? For some reason, I very, very vaguely remember Steve Blackman and Mark Miro boxing. But that's pretty much the only memory I had of any of this. And I remember the WrestleMania match with Bart Gunn and Butterbean. I do remember that because obviously it was the biggest stage. They weren't fucking kidding. His head almost turns all the way around from that Butterbean punch.
00:35:17
Speaker
God, Butterbean hit so, so, so hard. And I love that that was his punishment for winning. He was supposed to get to fight Stone Cold. Vince McMahon says, fuck you, you weren't supposed to win. Let's kill him. Why did you have a real, why did you have a real unscripted fucking tournament and then get upset when it didn't play out? God damn, that man really is a control freak.
00:35:44
Speaker
You think about that. Think about how fucked up that logic is. We'll just do a shoot fight and then be like, oh wait, but I didn't want it to play out like that. We need to punish the guy who didn't allow the thing I wanted to have happen, happen. What kind of fucking shit is this? He would have such a hard time with UFCs like, well, obviously this is who you booked to win and then he loses. That wasn't to finish.
00:36:15
Speaker
He's like, UFC fucked up their booking with Brock Lesnar on the way out. Why would they do that? It's fucking real, man. You gotta keep him strong in case he wants to come back. Jesus. Yeah, Brawl for All. What else stood out to you about this? Because I just remember the stuff with fucking draws
00:36:42
Speaker
Draws is so fucking positive and seems so fucking nice despite being dealt a really shitty hand. I did not realize that Draws was paralyzed. Fucking puke. He's gonna, he, he, he, he's gonna puke.
00:37:04
Speaker
No, I had no idea. So seeing him like he does look like he has a very good outlook on life. He probably by design he has to. Right. Like that's one of those things like you can't let that situation drag you down. Otherwise it's going to fucking kill you.
00:37:20
Speaker
I he's stronger than I would be. I completely agree. And just like any of Dark Side of the Ring, this is one where you think you're going to get out of it without anything bad happening. And they're like, by the way, Delo Brown fucking killed draws. He didn't kill. Well, he's the one that hurt him, but it was just like neither of them know what the fuck happened.
00:37:44
Speaker
But Dilo Brown seems like a nice guy too. He fought Ethan Page at a GCW show not long ago. But one person that was left out of the story, they mentioned him like once or twice who really should have gotten a much bigger part in this and they should have fucking interviewed him because I'm sure he would do it. And that is PCO.
00:38:08
Speaker
Yeah, you got really excited when you saw that that was probably his last run in WWE. And to know that, how is that not the story? Where they're like, there is a man with one eye who was in this shitty thing and now this many years later is the heavyweight champion of another company.
00:38:29
Speaker
I wish I had known this when I met him at the Hyatt Regency in Schomburg, Illinois and he was wearing flip flops and shorts. I would have asked, sir, your thoughts on your, your participation in the WWF brawl for all here, take this card, come be on our podcast and talk about it.
00:38:47
Speaker
Well, and I watched a shoot interview with PCO talking about it and he basically they were telling him like, you know, you're not going to win this. You're going up against Dr. Death first. You're going to get punched in the face and die, which for anyone who hasn't watched it yet, Dr. Death was the guy that they wanted to win this whole thing.
00:39:08
Speaker
and Jim Ross was rooting for. Really, the story is Bart Gunn, Billy Gunn's old partner, making a run and just beating the shit out of everybody. And that wasn't what the plan was supposed to be. It's important to understand these were shitty boxing matches on Monday Night Raw.
00:39:34
Speaker
It would basically be like if all the guys that just got let go today were like, you know what? I don't know what to do with them. I guess we should just have them fight each other for real, right? Right, but then hope that there's a very specific outcome that happens. I hope that fucking Drake Maverick beats everyone else. He's the come from behind guy. And he gets to go one on one with Braun Strowman.
00:40:00
Speaker
Oh my god. And then when Drake Maverick doesn't win and instead it's fucking, I don't know, one of the colognes? The colognes are gonna get fucking fed to Tyson Fury. Both of them have to say Tyson Fury's launching him through the table.
00:40:19
Speaker
Oh, Jesus. But yeah, no, I think PCO, I guess they told him behind the scenes, like, you know, you're going to lose. So after you get hit once, it's OK if you lay down. And he's like, fuck you, motherfucker. PCO used a lot of profanity telling this story where he told a lot of people, fuck you. And.
00:40:42
Speaker
It was an opportunity to work with the rattlesnake. He was like, this will make me a star. A one eyed man working with fucking Steve Austin. Let's do it. It's a good story. No, it didn't. It's just as good of a story now as it would have been back then, too. It just took 20 years for him to recapture his career. All it took was a spring break where he fought Walter.
00:41:08
Speaker
Oh, fuck. Well, do you feel bad for all the people who had their careers fucked up from doing that stupid shit? Nobody looked good. Nobody looked good. And the best part is that, like, through the whole episode, Vince Russo's kind of indignantly being like, it's just wrestling, bro. Like, I don't see what the big deal is. No, I don't feel bad about it. And then, like, in the last minute, they're showing him footage. He's like, oh, now I feel bad.
00:41:39
Speaker
I haven't thought about it in a while or watched it and now I feel guilty. Well, do you think Bradshaw goes back and looks at the video of him beating the shit out of Blue Mani and thinks I feel bad about that now? Not at all. And I don't feel that bad about Bradshaw getting punched in the fucking face.
00:41:58
Speaker
Think of all the shitty stuff Bradshaw did to Mauro Ranallo. I know. But this was years before that, so. So somewhere Mauro Ranallo is trying to get the brawl for all to come back and let it be with the announcers. It's Bradshaw against everybody.
00:42:19
Speaker
Um, last night's episode of dark side of the ring. Uh, I'll put it to you this way. It doesn't bode well to be in a relationship with a professional wrestler. If your name is Nancy.
00:42:35
Speaker
Oh no. That's, yeah. See, I didn't watch last night's. Okay, so last night's episode of Dark Side of the Ring focused on Jimmy Snooka and him essentially murdering his girlfriend by beating her to death.
00:42:51
Speaker
and how it got covered up and they ruled it as like an accident. His story kept changing throughout the years and supposedly there's strong evidence to suggest that Vince McMahon came in and helped cover that murder up. Yeah, I had always heard that.
00:43:11
Speaker
Well, and it took like, I guess what, 30 years for there to actually be charges pressed against Jimmy Snooka. And the coroner's report was like classified and they had to like, they didn't have access to it, but the coroner basically suggested at the end of his report, yeah, this should be investigated as a homicide and nothing else until further notice. And then that never happened until 30 years later.
00:43:35
Speaker
And Snooka was suffering from dementia, wasn't there by the time he was called into court. They were able to basically say he can't stand trial because he doesn't know where the fuck he is or what's going on. And that was the extent of the justice carried out to Jimmy Snooka. And then he died shortly thereafter, I think from stomach cancer. So yeah.
00:43:58
Speaker
So that definitely sounds like a dark side of the ring. That's it. It was a dark side of the ring. And like I said, uh, man, I feel like you got a lot of joy out of watching guys beat the shit out of each other with boxing gloves on and shorten their careers. There's nothing fun to take away from last night's dark side of the ring. Other than holy shit, a man got away with murder for 30 years and Vince might've helped cover it up.
00:44:25
Speaker
That is true. While I was watching the one, I'm like, I have more in common with Vince Russo than I thought. Oh, my God, I could hang out with Jim Cornette and watch this. And yeah, that one just sounds sounds. It sounds like a true dark side of the ring, not not like a stupid side of the ring. Yeah. But that's kind of for the most part, that's been the theme. I guess next week is going to be about Dino Bravo, which again, not a scenario. Don't know anything. Excited to learn.
00:44:59
Speaker
Derek? Yeah? Do you think CM Punk's gonna go to Wrestle Kingdom? Uh, where are you getting that from? Well, he gave that list of people that he would want to wrestle.
00:45:14
Speaker
and Will Ospreay was on that? Will Ospreay was on that list and Will Ospreay posted a video where he's like, see him punk, come on, let's fucking do it. He's like, wrestle kingdom, it would be so cool. Me and you, this is the time to come back and do it. I mean, that would be awesome. I have, I mean, as wrestle, is New Japan prepared to pay CM Punk the amount of money he would require to come out of retirement?
00:45:41
Speaker
That's a good question. I wonder what Jericho had got paid. But it seemed like Jericho. I don't want to take shots at punk unnecessarily, but it seems like Jericho had a passion for doing things that were different and that people didn't expect him to do. And I don't know if punk still has that. I think his mentality is I ain't doing it unless you pay me big money.
00:46:10
Speaker
Who knows, maybe that's something that New Japan looks at as a good thing to spend money on. Maybe. I mean, it would get them hella publicity. I mean, that would be bigger than Jericho. Especially if Punk is still working for Fox at the time. Covering WWE. While fighting Will Ospreay in Japan.
00:46:30
Speaker
Yeah, I love that. That'd be wild. Um, I hadn't really thought about it. I know that Seth Rollins talk shit about, uh, Osprey, whatever, how many months ago, which led to his fucking eventual heel turn because the fans had enough Rollins of shit. And then that, and that led to see him punk and Seth Rollins. Um,
00:46:53
Speaker
Wait, we're trying to gather my thoughts on this. What happened after that? So Seth eventually apologized to Will Ospreay. Didn't Punk acknowledge Will Ospreay as the best wrestler in the world and that pissed off Rollins? I know that there was a while where Rollins was basically poking and seeing Punk with a stick trying to get a WrestleMania match with him. Right. Huh.
00:47:19
Speaker
Yeah, I do like that Osprey was able to basically turn Seth Rollins heel from another company. From another company. By all he did was send in one tweet like, I exist. Yep. Ah, that's good shit. Man, I went back, because I know I talked about this a little bit, but it really made me happy going back and watching some of these PWG DVDs.
00:47:45
Speaker
Yeah. Tell me about him. Like what other matches did you check out? You said that you watched, um, the young bucks versus Kenny Omega and Chuck Taylor. I watched that. I also watched, uh, the very first meetup between the young bucks and scene and generico.
00:48:01
Speaker
Was that fun? That was really good. I mean, this is from a DVD called Five Stars. So every single match is just fucking insane. And it was the first time those guys had ever wrestled each other and it was at the 2009 Bola. But I wanted to go back and start watching some stuff that I attended because it just matches that I remembered being really, really fun in person just to see if it held up this many years later.
00:48:28
Speaker
And one of the ones I really wanted to go back and check out was from 2016, January 2nd, 2016. It was a show they did called Lemmy. Lemmy had just died, so it was a tribute to him. And the match I remember being so much fun from this was Zack Sabre Jr. versus Akira Tozawa.
00:48:52
Speaker
You're a Tazawa who made it to WWE? Yes. Okay. And at the time, Zack Sabre Jr. had just won Bola. He was, you know, a guy that the crowd absolutely loved. The crowd loved Tazawa. And I don't think I had ever seen a crowd chant for two guys louder than this match.
00:49:13
Speaker
it seriously went on for about 10 minutes before they even locked up i think they got a match of the year chant before they touched each other they got a this is awesome chant before they touched each other the two of them ended up just laying down on the ground and then at one point after that they all they just got up and left
00:49:34
Speaker
before they then just ran back in the ring and started doing what they do but going back and just hearing how hot that crowd was for those two guys that night before they even goosebumps it did it did it took me straight back to being in that room and one of the matches that was on it that opened it i finally i've brought up this match over and over again
00:49:56
Speaker
It was Brian Cage versus Chris Dickinson, the Dirty Daddy, who this was his first and only PWG match, mostly because he fucked up so bad. Well, what the fuck? How do you get one and done for real? Yeah, that was his debut and he never did another one as far as I know.
00:50:21
Speaker
He basically went out there, the very first movie did, he dumped Brian Cage directly on his head. Oh no. Then he went and botched something else. The match goes on and he kind of recovers and it's pretty good. But then the very last thing he does in that match is one more time drops Brian Cage on his head.
00:50:39
Speaker
and I thought for years that guy was terrible but I will say Chris Dickinson has gotten much much better but going back and watching it was as bad to watch as I remembered it being in that room like it was brutal it was just like oh my god just watching a guy fuck up a big chance it it hurt to watch I'm sorry I felt somebody needed to apologize
00:51:05
Speaker
But going back in another one, like just kind of seeing Speedball Mike Bailey again. He's a guy from Canada that essentially was doing a Karate Kid gimmick. He was such a good indie wrestler. He was just getting so big there and I believe he didn't pay his taxes and wasn't allowed back in the United States. Aww.
00:51:26
Speaker
So that's why we haven't seen him in the last like six, seven years. But going back, I was looking at some of these matches I kind of forgot I saw. I saw the first meetup between Zack Sabre Jr. and Pentagon Jr. Really? Yeah, that was at Ebola. Was that hard hitting his shit? Oh, the crowd was so hot for both guys, too. That was the year that Sabre won.
00:51:51
Speaker
They were beating the shit out of each other's chest. They were pretzeling. It was God. It's just a Pentagon still doing his whole remove the glove thing at this point. No, I don't think he had started doing that yet. Okay. So he was still developing.
00:52:06
Speaker
man is still in the womb. Just I am really right now. I feel like I've let GCW go a little bit. I'm going back to my PWG roots. And I, I just want to, I think every week for a little bit, I want to recommend a PWG match. That's worth checking out. And I think this, Oh, go ahead. Did it make you sad? Seeing receipt, like the, the Legion Hall and recita and knowing it's not there.
00:52:31
Speaker
It made me happy looking around and seeing familiar faces like Legion Larry and some of the regulars. But yeah, I think I'm more happy that I ever got to experience it rather than sad that it's gone. That's a good attitude to have, Garrett. It's just that place was Fight Club. It was just it was I think that will always be my favorite building that ever existed.
00:52:56
Speaker
Well, I'm glad you got to relive those memories during quarantine. What do you think of, oh, I'm sorry, go ahead. I was gonna say, I didn't do that over the course of the last week. No, what I did is I opted to go watch what WWE had to offer me on Netflix. No, not on the WWE Network on Netflix.
00:53:20
Speaker
Oh my god, I totally forgot about this. Oh, I haven't. And I never will. I have watched the big show show. And I have watched the main event.
00:53:32
Speaker
Both. What is the main event? The main event is a child's movie about a kid who gets superpowers from a luchador mask and enters a WWE tournament in NXT to determine who will be the next WWE superstar and get a contract with them. This sounds incredible. It was all of that. It was all of that.
00:53:58
Speaker
It was incredible, or it was just everything you named. It was all of that. Do we see any wrestlers in it? Oh my goodness. Garrett. Do I see Walter chop a kid? Come on, man. Otis is in the movie. Otis has a big role in the movie.
00:54:23
Speaker
The main character, besides the little boy's name, which I can't remember off the top of my head right now. Keith Lee has a major acting role in this movie and he is fantastic. He is a co-star in this picture. You're telling me a movie exists right now starring Keith Lee and I haven't seen it. Correct. It's also got a major role for The Miz.
00:54:51
Speaker
Derek, what are you gonna tell me that it was directed by Neville Dean Taylor? It may very well have been. I mean, it's exactly the kind of movie you would expect to see marketed towards a young WWE fan. I don't know how much adult humor is in it. I mean, it's not really, but there are things that were worth laughing at.
00:55:22
Speaker
I just couldn't believe that Netflix had the WWE movie and not the network. And so sat down with my roommate the other day, we watched it start to finish. Lots of cameos, like I said, from other wrestlers. Sheamus is in there, Kofi Kingston is in there. I would go check it out.
00:55:43
Speaker
Well, is there anyone else notable from the NXT roster that would get me really excited? Um, I would have to say I'm blanking right now. But yes, there are others in there.
00:55:56
Speaker
Garrett, this would be a perfect movie for you to crack open a white claw, get a little buzz on in more ways than one, and watch this. You would get entertainment out of it. You have already selected what I'm doing tomorrow afternoon, my friend. Well, go watch the fucking main event. As far as the big show show, it is a poor man's king of queens, and it kind of sucks.
00:56:23
Speaker
I'd say that is a fair comparison. I tried to watch it myself and I maybe made it maybe five to ten minutes in. Oh no, I went through several episodes. You sat through, man, there's not even that, do any other wrestlers show up ever? Eventually, I think Rikishi is in there, Mick Foley is in there, maybe somebody else. I mean, they reference other wrestlers for sure.
00:56:51
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, the novelty is fine. If you just want to watch a big show, be in a sitcom, maybe, I think maybe the key is if you're not a fan of wrestling and you just want to watch a standard fucking family sitcom.
00:57:07
Speaker
about a guy who used to be a professional wrestler, then this is for you. Check out the big show show. Do you not watch wrestling but you really liked that part in the water boy with Captain Insano? This is probably up your alley. Yeah, but time better well spent would be going to watch the main event. And then you're going to do that tomorrow.
00:57:28
Speaker
I 100% am doing that tomorrow, but if you were here, I would be pushing for us to do a watch along for the main event. I would love to do that. Sorry, no, I don't have the room. So you, uh, you watched dynamite tonight. I did watch dynamite tonight. Which match got you the most excited? Um,
00:57:56
Speaker
I don't know, I mean, I feel like they're doing a good job of building Lance Archer. So him and Colt Cabana was fun. I did enjoy the world title match between Jake Hager and Jon Moxley. See, that was just another match I just did not love. Can you tell me why? I don't know, maybe I'm just getting burned out on empty arena matches. Oh, welcome to the fucking club, dude.
00:58:24
Speaker
But, okay. Finally caught up to you. No, no, no, no. Back to reality. Oh, there goes gravity. Cause I enjoyed Chuck Taylor versus, uh, Kip Sabian as much as any other match. And it was, as you know, it felt like there were people there, but this one, I don't know. It was just, maybe it's because I had just watched the Champa Gargano match from last week's NXT, where they were beating the shit out of each other for like 40 minutes in an empty arena. I felt like I'd already gotten it.
00:58:54
Speaker
I think we are in year three of this podcast. Right? Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah. I've noticed a trend with you in pro wrestling matches. When you are told that a match is a big fucking deal, you immediately don't give it its due.
00:59:18
Speaker
The matches on the undercard that nobody gives a shit pique your interest. But the moment you're told something, this is going to be a fucking no holds barred fight anywhere fucking main event. You're like, huh. All right. Well, okay. You know what the name of Jake Hager's finisher is? What is it? It's called the head and arm triangle. Basically what his finisher is, is the Carl Malone hug.
00:59:45
Speaker
Yeah. So I know it at any given point, the most exciting part of that match is gonna be when Jon Moxley passes out from getting hugged too much. From the Malone squeeze. From the Malone squeeze. Yeah.
00:59:59
Speaker
And I think there's something about that move that I just immediately get, I'm like, well, I know he's not gonna win. If he's not getting hugged, then what the fuck is this all leading to? Did you think Jake, oh fuck man, how many wrestling matches do you watch all the time where you know a guy isn't going to be the one who wins? Okay, I guess I'm in a weird place where I hate the hug, but I also wanna see it.
01:00:27
Speaker
You absolutely, we were there for the hugs debut.
01:00:32
Speaker
Well, I mean, it sounds like, according to the Bellator people that all night long told me that Jake Hager was gonna win, I guess he's been doing that hug there for quite some time. It works. Malone knew what the fuck he was doing. Malone did know what he was doing, and I feel bad forever doubting him. And the other thing is, that match didn't end with the fucking hug, it ended with Moxley giving him a fucking paradigm shift onto a chair.
01:01:00
Speaker
You're telling me that's not exciting? Is that not GCW enough for you, motherfucker? But in that other match that I liked, it had Orange Cassidy, it had Penelope Ford, and it had Chuck Taylor. So there were- Can you tell me your favorite line of the night that you text me?
01:01:18
Speaker
Jericho on commentary all night long. It's fantastic. Was so good. What did he say when Penelope Ford did the splits? He goes, Oh my God, she just did the splits and leather pants. Just like you, Shivani back in the seventies.
01:01:38
Speaker
I could have, I could have listened to him on commentary all day long. Jericho being a fucking troll on commentary is amazing because I lost it at one point when he said something to the effective. He's being egotistical. That's something I'd never do, Tony. He's being arrogant.
01:01:59
Speaker
Once again, though, I continue to be happy with AEW. It's not like I hated the main event. I think I've just got a little burnout on, because the Gargano Champa, I had just watched them go 40 minutes in kind of that type of batch.
01:02:14
Speaker
Well, how did you feel about that? Because you said that they shot it in like a cinematic style, but then you said it went way too long. I felt like it, it felt like what I kind of wanted them to do with the edge orton match, but it was like the same length.
01:02:29
Speaker
And it ended on a truck again. Okay. Well, no, they went up on top of a truck. They got back down. They moved around a lot. That match was pretty cool, though, because it did start with Triple H saying, this is the last time when I walk out those doors, you two end this. And then Candice LeRae came in, said, is that what you wanted, Tommaso? You made me hate my husband. I hate him. And then she kicked Johnny in the dick.
01:02:58
Speaker
Shit. But then... They go back to fight. Candace kicks Tommaso Champa in the dick. Johnny Gargano had a cup on. Tommaso Champa is the babyface now, I guess, and Johnny and Candace are heels. Champa's been the babyface for a while, dog. Well, I know that, but now Candace is also bad.
01:03:19
Speaker
Well, they're not doing it again. Those were the rules. It'll never happen again. First match- Just like the Rock and John Cena. Once in a lifetime. Once in a lifetime. I have recently changed the music I'm listening to, Derek. I feel like I've been pretty positive lately.
01:03:39
Speaker
Well, you were all about that pop music for a while. I was all about that pop music, but I've just been so chill lately, Derek. I, uh, I had to go into the, the chill wave. Are you familiar with chill wave? No. Is it anything like reggae? No.
01:03:56
Speaker
Chillwave is a micro genre that emerged in the late 2000s. It's characterized by a faded or dreamy retro pop sound. The term was originally synonymous with Glow-Fi or hypnagogic pop. Do you have the fucking definition in front of you? I do.
01:04:16
Speaker
You knew you wanted to talk about this, didn't you? I did. Because it says it's also there's derivative forms called cloud rap and vaporwave. Fucking music genres are stupid, Derek. I don't ever want to hear you complain at the beginning of an episode of us being off topic from wrestling again.
01:04:35
Speaker
You literally had a Wikipedia page pulled up to describe this genre of music before we left today. Why do you think I waited until the very end of the show to bring up show one? Yes. Strategic. Like a cherry on top of the predetermined shit Sunday. Feels like I'm hanging out on a beach with a margarita, but not like with Jimmy Buffett. Different than Jimmy Buffett. Goodness. You did it.
01:05:03
Speaker
all week in there all what so you're off of Carly Rae Jepsen now and this is your new thing I am wearing a Carly Rae Jepsen hoodie that I've had on for three straight days right now because it's quarantine bit hey it's quarantined and there are no rules I can wear the same outfit for as long as I want I'm only seeing my wife
01:05:24
Speaker
My own mother made the comment the other day that she was wearing like the same fucking something. I can't remember what it was now for a couple days in a row and I told her you can't do that. That'll get depressing. You got to wake up and clean yourself and change clothes.
01:05:40
Speaker
And Garrett's just like, fuck it, I'm gonna open up another white claw, get high, and watch some old PWG, and then listen, what's this soft wave shit I'm listening to? Derek, it's called Chill Wave. Chill Wave. It's chill. It's very calm. Very soothing. Why don't you do me a favor and send me some of that after this fucking recording, and I'll check it out. I'll send you some Chill Wave, and you know what you're gonna be like? You're gonna be like, oh man, I could go to sleep to this, I could party to this, I can do a little light dancing. I bet you I could, because I'm pretty open-minded about the various genres of music.
01:06:10
Speaker
Every day, Derek, I now cook dinner while listening to some Chill Wave, and over the weekend, it played all weekend. And I said, you know what? Chill Wave Saturday turned into Chill Wave Sunday. We're listening to Chill Wave in this part of the town right now.
01:06:26
Speaker
For those who don't know, Garrett will be coming to my island on Animal Crossing soon, and he will find out that I have a pro wrestling training gym in my home. So we will be posting pictures of that. Wear your GCW shirt. Oh, I always do. All right. Let's get this out of here. Plug shit. We'll do the things that we do to make this official, like to sound professional.
01:06:54
Speaker
Hey everybody, thanks so much for listening. Do us a favor, hop on the internet. Do you have the internet? It's all you do right now. All you have is the internet. Get on there. Even if you're in a McDonald's parking lot using their free Wi-Fi. Yeah, you can hop on there right now and give us a follow at WrestleHangout on Twitter. We're at Predetermined Podcast on Instagram. I am at Gartet on social media. Derek is at Halloween helping.
01:07:20
Speaker
email addresses at predetermined it's not ad it's just predetermined podcast at gmail.com. I don't you're not going to send me an email. Why do you give a shit? I've been daring you to send us emails for a few years now and so few of you do. And you may have noticed that we have had a couple emails that I never responded to because I'm a bad I'm a bad bad boy.
01:07:42
Speaker
There is also a bonus zone episode that I threw up just a day or two ago. If you have access to Cage of Death 19, it's a worthwhile listen. We're with our friend, Aaron. We've been getting some good feedback on that episode, too. We've been getting good feedback that you're not sharing with me? Yeah. And these dark times, I could use some positivity. You could use some positivity? Yeah. Well, have you heard of Chill Wave?
01:08:09
Speaker
Send it my way. I said it. I want it. Bring it on. Thanks for listening, everybody. We will be back next week for episode 110. And at that point, I will have seen the main event. And I don't know, I'll probably watch some more PWG DVDs.
01:08:30
Speaker
And I will have seen another episode of Dark Side of the Ring and another episode of Dynamite and no WWE. And I wish the best of luck in the future endeavors to everybody who was released today. That sucks. Might I recommend Chill Wave for those who are currently quarantined? Hit our goddamn music.