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EP. 34 Presence (2025)
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Nick and Gerald review the newest film of 2025 in Presence by Steven Soderbergh! They also recap their physical media pickups and discuss David Howard Thorton's appearance in the short film Jokers Wild. Plus, Nick pitches a new segment for the pod!
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Introduction & Humorous Exchanges
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to episode 34 of the Two Guys One Screen podcast, AKA. Bro, did you just meow in the middle of the video, bro? Yeah, you did.
Hosts Introduction & Movie Review Announcement
00:00:09
Speaker
Keep that in. Yo, shut up. ah This is the Two Guys One Screen podcast, AKA The Hemorrhoid Homies, AKA The Po Town Boys. um My name is Nick. Then I'm Gerald.
00:00:26
Speaker
And today we are reviewing Steven Soderbergh's burger burrs. I'm sorry. Uh, his newest film presence, which, uh, you've been edging me on your opinion since about 2PM. This is our our night recording night. Nick at night, Nick at night. Watch out. Coca-Cola is sipping and I'm whipping a mashed potatoes. Okay. That sounds good right now.
Expectations & Marketing Discussion
00:00:55
Speaker
Dude, I made my shows for work today. I had fucking a frozen pizza for dinner. That's gay. Anyway, a little gay. Yeah. Um, yeah, I don't, I don't really know what to expect with this. This is, I mean, we have a lot to say in this movie, a hundred percent. Uh, I have a a lot of feelings on this movie. I have a lot of feelings on the marketing. I'm looking at you, neon twix, relax with the zoomies. Yeah. The way
Social Media & Listener Engagement
00:01:22
Speaker
neon is like, they're pumping shit out though.
00:01:25
Speaker
They really are and I mean they were they're boutique, but they also low-key are anymore. Yeah, like what's up with that? Also, they released merch for all our movies and shout out to them so ah Can you get it on like their website? I yeah, I mean they post on it. I follow me on Instagram. They uh They also post in their Instagram. They have like long legs merch, which I know you probably be down for yeah, yeah, yeah, I Want I want merch for this movie That's a good thing to hear. Um, before we get into our movie, let's do a little ah could find the button today. Whoa. So follow us on Instagram. Two guys, one screen pod. Send any comments, concerns, movie requests to two guys, one screen pod at gmail dot.com. Follow us on letterboxed. Follow us on tick tock. We're still here. We're still here. I just posted a clip. Uh,
Merchandise & Media Pickups
00:02:26
Speaker
The Ravens TikTok really got me today. I opened TikTok and like they had like a clip and then it like stopped and like one of the little like remember the day that TikTok went down. They had like a closed app or whatever. Mm hmm. That popped up and I was like clicking it, but it was pause at the video and I was like, oh, other fuckers.
00:02:46
Speaker
Pretty good. Yeah. And if you're feeling up to it, Uh, leave us a voicemail at 508-fistus. 508-8-dip-tip. I also, um I don't mean to interrupt your your plug. Do you think we should start reading the number out? Uh, we probably should, right? We'll get digis, because, I mean, granted Jake's a little dumb sometimes, but Jake was like, your plug confuses me. Well, I'd hate to tell him, but modern phones on the keypad still have the letters. What? That's what I said.
00:03:21
Speaker
Yeah. And mean he, I mean, I don't, I mean, this fucking, this app is not great. Uh, I don't even have the phone number in front of me. So give us a call. Give us a call. Decipher the code. it's like Yeah, exactly. All right. You know, Zodiac killer. Yes. Never found him. Nope. Nope.
00:03:47
Speaker
Uh, shout out to the YouTube clips, which I have not posted yet, but ah there are some already up there at two guys once green pod. Check it. And, uh, yo, check it out. Letterboxed links will be in the description. Yeah, it's all it's all down there. Uh, we got to do is like, you know, swipe up. It's there. And even it's a hyperlink. You just click it and you're just being.
00:04:13
Speaker
Uh, I also want to plug, I mean, with each episode, I just want to keep plugins to start the hype train going Harry Potter. is coming very soon. And I don't mean Harry, I mean the franchise. Yeah. um We have recorded as of this recording. Well, by the time you're hearing this, nope, that's still true. We've recorded we've recorded seven of the eight ah movies and they are wild.
00:04:43
Speaker
Crazy. z
Harry Potter Franchise Excitement
00:04:44
Speaker
I don't know if the last one is going to be as crazy because the last one is just kind of emotion everywhere. Sure. Sure. I mean, we're going to have some ah so that jokes, some rankings there. Oh, yeah. We can do a final ranking, final franchise ranking. I mean, I think we by the end by this past recording cut this, we established is or not. That's like in regards to his haircut. Yeah. Carlos, you know, we just said ah So that's uh, that's coming up. We'll do some physical media pickups Joe, do you want to go because I have you got a egg you got a lot so I'll go first so first of all I got the
Movie Purchases & Collectibles
00:05:30
Speaker
the blue the blu-ray for bridge to terabithia That Nick so kindly found for me. It's made it from Hawaii. Yeah, it was in Hawaii
00:05:39
Speaker
um That's exciting. That's the only exciting thing about this movie is that... Shout out to that lady. Shout out to that lady. The only interesting thing about this movie is that it was in Hawaii at one point. Go listen to our episode on Bridge to Terabithia. It's one of our highest rated.
00:05:59
Speaker
And my second and final one. ah think we Whenever I get around to watching this, if it's good, we should probably do this one for a pod, I'm assuming.
00:06:09
Speaker
Is it a good one? I'm interested to have a conversation with you about the movie. I don't know if it's podcast worthy necessarily, because I only gave it a three. But the ending the ending is worth talking about. OK. It's Al Pacino's movie, Cruising. ah he He goes under goes under to undercover as a cop ah because someone's killing the gays. Someone is killing the gays. And he goes undercover as a gay guy.
00:06:38
Speaker
trying to find the gay killer fun fact i watched that movie before i mailed it to you it is directed by the same guy that did the exorcist the og exorcist william freaking i believe oh fuck i added a bunch of that guy's movies to my watch list because i just feel like his movies are interesting at the bare minimum also i just realized what this cover is that's sick Yeah, yeah, it's great. Also, I saw one today at Bull Moose, shout out Bull Moose, ah with no slip on it for under $20 and I still skipped it, so. It's getting a 4K from Arrow. I don't know if you care, but. Also, what's this, there's ah another trick or treat Arrow on 4K that's a different slip cover. It's like orange, have you seen this? I have. what What is that? Why did I get that? I think it was like a, you know how they have different editions. Yeah. I think it's one of those. Fair enough.
00:07:30
Speaker
All right, we'll get into mine. ah Firstly, we're fresh off our review on Wolf Main. Wolf Main. So I found a 4K for $11 of The Invisible Man. Oh, the remake. There you go. Which I've heard this movie is great. You told me it was great. So I'm excited to watch this. This is a what you call, what we call here, are two guys, one screen, a blind buy. That is a very blind buy, but I promise you, it's good. Oh, I've heard great things. ah Next, I have two Keno Lorbers.
00:08:01
Speaker
First one is a movie that I watched for the first time. It was on you YouTube movies with ads. They got some heaters in there. Do they really? I've never... I'll tell you what. I've never browsed that. ah This movie is called Fletch. It stars Chevy Chase. I'll give you a hot take right here. That might make both of you mad. I don't like National Lampoon Christmas Vacation. I don't find it funny. I think it's kind of dumb.
00:08:27
Speaker
um Chevy Chase's humor in that for me does not work. That's a top three Christmas movie for me. And I'm sorry for you, but he's in this movie and his humor works so much better for me. I really enjoyed flight. So it's not like slapstick. That's the same. It's just actually funny. I don't know. I just, this one actually hit from his sikino fork or a Blu-ray. I don't remember. It's a Blu-ray. It's sealed. Sealed 20 bucks.
00:08:56
Speaker
It's not bad for a boutique. Next keynote, I was delighted to find this. As we mentioned on the podcast previously, Gerald and I have a shared notes app where we exchange movies that we're looking for. So, you know, if we search two stores, I mean, for me, it's two tree stores, depending on the day. Better chance of finding, you know? Right. What's that? What's the... Hey, shut up, phone. Oh, it was you? Okay.
00:09:22
Speaker
That was me. Shout out Carlos sending fish orders. This is rules of engagement on 4K. I had no idea Kino was putting this out. I did not either. I found it today in the 4K section of Bull Moose. Shout
Upcoming Releases & Directors
00:09:36
Speaker
out to him. This movie rocks. I fucking love this movie. I've been on this podcast talking about how much I love court procedurals. This is one of them. And it's great. I was delighted to find this. And I was like, yeah. I mean, I like the button. Hey, great. I was delighted to find this. It's a great movie. If you haven't seen it, what are you doing? Those are my two Kenos. I guess we'll do this one next. I grabbed the...
00:10:02
Speaker
4k of a movie that's been divisive in my friendship with my co-host Of the substance for 24 bucks. I'll take it. That's 4k. You said this is a 4k. There you go. Shout-out bull moose having those sales dude, bro The movie just came out like on Tuesday physically, but you know how it is I get on a roll and then you just can't stop the day of more than one Yeah, sorry. Never enough to ask heavy um I'm going to go, should I go out looking for it tomorrow? If you don't find it for 24, let me know because I can just mail you a copy that's 24 or you'll find a good deal on it. I was going to wait for the Steelbook, but it's so weird with Steelbooks. You have no idea what you're going to be able to find and what you can't find. Yeah, a lot of them nowadays are like order online only. So it's like, what are we doing? Speaking of Steelbooks, I have three to share. Whoa. These two came from Walmart, so we'll do those after.
00:10:59
Speaker
Yes, I paid full price. I don't care if it was good. Also, the steel book's gorgeous. Smile 2. Ooh, there you go. this is This is one of the coolest looking steel books of this year. Granted, this year just started. Sure. ah Also, Smile 2, a very good movie. Like, substantially better than the first one. It's what everybody hears. Yes, it's jump scares, but you know it's coming and it still scares the fuck out of you.
00:11:25
Speaker
There you go. He jumps the future. This was this is a very cool looking steel book. I think Jack Nicholson's son is fucking super creepy looking. These posters always freaked me out. This will probably go on the wall. That's a scary thing to be on your wall. The next three are probably going on the wall. Well, maybe.
00:11:43
Speaker
ah Next to steel books. I found at Walmart this Walmart. I'd never been to before but they had the $5 bin. Oh They were all DVDs though. Yeah. Oh, what are you all doing? But did they have a? Steel book section. Yeah, they had some heat. Oh, so so you you finally found a Walmart with some heat Yeah, but I'm not gonna be going there much I mean I it's it's across the street but from this bull moose that I go to but You're probably going there only go there when you're at bull moose Probably and that bull moose in particular is kind of far so I don't go there all the time But I mean that shines that one, you know who you are. It's just so much better And apparently they got the heat so Oppenheimer 4k steelbook. I mean, I never thought I'd find this in the wild to be honest I think they did. I think they did as a re-release. Yeah
00:12:33
Speaker
Yeah, it doesn't have the first pressing so um But hey you guys i love I love this movie. This is a five out of five for me. This is the best movie of 2022 I think it was or 2023 whenever this came out Never barbenheimer was yeah, I think it was 2023 actually like um Fucking great fantastic movie happy to get this on the wall. Yeah, it's a kill again
Short Film Review: Joker's Wild
00:12:57
Speaker
Murphy. It's a good wall pull Last one, last Steelbook, that is, you know what this is already, I told you about it. Yeah, yeah. OG Wolfman, Steelbook, I heard the movie's phenomenal from several people, so happy to add to the collection. Add to my Universal Monsters Steelbook collection. Mm-hmm. We're getting there. I think the only one I need is Dracula. Yeah, I think just Dracula I need. You got the Mummy 4K one, right? Yep, movie sucks. It's not the suck, it's mid. Is the Dracula out yet?
00:13:28
Speaker
I've seen it. I mean, there was another one that was before the new one, unless it's not a 4K. The one I have is a Blu-ray. It's in the same line, but they like read released like as Wolfman didn't get one. they're They're all new artwork on the new 4Ks. Understood. ah Then I um don't know have to drag ones out yet. Then I'll have to look into that. But I have this one. I haven't seen the movie, but I'm going to watch as I just said. Last but not least, we had to go out with a bang.
00:13:58
Speaker
Bang. Arrow John. You ready for this? Is this a heater? Inglourious bastards. There you go. I mean, what more can be said about this movie? I'm happy that Tarantino movies are getting the fucking love and respect they deserve it as far as physical media is concerned. Tarantino's going to go down as one of those, like, looked back on and was like, oh, he was a genius. I mean, he is he is probably already there be He might be my favorite director. now might be He's probably already there, but he might be my favorite director, I think. It's between him and Nolan, to be honest. Well, it's gotta be, right? Yeah, it's one of those two. It's gotta be Kane. I opened this. I'm not going to do it on the pod, but nice a this is a phenomenal release. There's a little book inside. It comes with a coaster from that restaurant in the movie. I was very much looking forward to this. So happy that Bull Moose had it.
00:14:52
Speaker
So that's my hall. this is This is one of the biggest halls in recent memory. I'd say. Would that run you back? Well, I did have some points, so I brought it down to $1.50. That's not too bad. You got to realize, dude, I walked in the store. I walked into Bull Moose. Shout out Bull Moose again. I picked up this, ah this being in glorious bastards. I picked up the the ah smile to Steelbook and the substance. And I was already at like $70. That's right. Yeah. He were already here yeah at that point. Just commit. Right. So what I do when I was there, I did like two separate, like 200 purchases. we We both went. Yeah, a little crazy. Also, just for podcast coherence and lore, I did get you back with a copy of Introduce the Vampire. I think we talked about the miscommunication on the pod. Correct. ah It's been corrected.
00:15:46
Speaker
W your copy will be coming in the mail at some point. I'm probably not gonna know you're one Blu-ray, but yeah, it's fair um Tomorrow I am going to spoiler. I mean I text you about this already, but tomorrow I'm sending your two movies. I won't reveal them cuz uh It's a physical media pickup right there buddy media pickup Uh, before we get into our review of presence, a little short film came out this week and it's, I think it's worth talking about because we've mentioned this. We have a clip specifically about this. Uh, we do from the podcast. Uh,
00:16:23
Speaker
A little short film called Joker's Wild, which stars... I'll say, he's my boy. I've met him. but I got a photo of him. He knew I existed for five seconds. Lily has already forgotten about me, probably. Joker's Wild, it stars David Howard Thornton as Joker. I mean, Letterboxd credits him as Jack, because there's probably some copyright issues.
00:16:48
Speaker
Yeah, there's definitely a DC logo in front of this. No. And for the while for the longest time, he didn't even say Batman. I don't even did he call him bat. I think the bats are, you know, whatever jokers little guys are. He called him Rob for a hot minute. and That was kind of funny. Rob was hilarious. Yeah.
00:17:12
Speaker
um
00:17:15
Speaker
I'll say this. What what did you think? Is it called a prosthetic? ah Yeah, it's probably prosthetic. Do you think, I mean, it's not exact, but it's kind of adjacent to the art setup. They just kind of give them more of a pronounced chin. Pronounced chin. I think they did a little little something song with the cheeks, possibly.
00:17:39
Speaker
I feel like art has those cheeks to pause. I feel like art has those cheeks too to them. It's goddamn cheeks. Yeah. ah It was very Mark Hamill Joker-esque looking, like Batman animated series. I agree with that. Besides the lower half of like the punk kind of vibe, like the costume design, I would say. I didn't hate it.
00:18:09
Speaker
No, I warmed. I would say I warmed up to it. I would say as the short film progressed, I was like, oh, and then and obviously we know like, you know, this probably had no budget. No, and this was I mean, this is David Howard Thornton's passion project at this point. Sure. That's how I'm reading it. It's only 12 minutes. Yeah. And I mean, if you count the opening and the credits, it's like 10. Yeah.
00:18:31
Speaker
ah I think that David Howard Thorin, we've already talked about his physicality on this podcast as being an actor, len and lends itself to this role ah very well. I don't know how I feel about his... over like the uppity, uppity performance. I feel like there was no moment where the film was like, let's just take a breather. He was either laughing, even if he didn't look like he was laughing or he was just like, like he was like the whole time. and At times, I thought maybe this is a little over the top. I think he was just trying to get in as much as he possibly could. but And I respect that. Sure.
00:19:20
Speaker
I thought thought his laugh was spot on. Laugh was good. laugh is so um I like the the brutality aspect.
00:19:32
Speaker
They took one out of ah a page out of Reservoir Dogs. Yeah. But his tongue out. Um, obviously they couldn't, you know, there was no terrifier level of gore on screen. Cause it's on YouTube. You can't do that on YouTube, but at the end, well hint whatever, what you see is, is good. Uh, I, I liked the interesting aspect of Joker just straight up not giving a fuck. Yeah. It, I don't, it it's kind of like everybody's style blended into like one unique.
00:20:10
Speaker
I said that in my review too. this is I think this is a very unique take on Joker as far as what they put out in this. And I think the story is Death in a Family, right? Is the name of the actual DC story. Yeah. I think it's a great, what's the word I'm looking for? I think that's the story to take to showcase David Howard Thornton as an actor in because of his previous performances in Terrifier and the like.
00:20:35
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, what the the the movies that he's known for, I haven't seen stream, but I can only assume that shut street shout stream. I'm assuming he's a silent protagonist. Oh, he does nazi he does not he does not speak in stream at all. Yeah. So it's really cool to see his actual ah vocal acting skills Right, because we know what how we yeah, I agree. with that We know he can he can move and jive. I will say they set this I mean, they set this up the it doesn't look like it was a low budget movie because I think the cinematography if you want to call it that the camera work is good. I think the set where they filmed it's all one spot. I think a set looks great. It looks murky. It looks like the basement where Jack Nicholson got his face fucking sewn back together.
00:21:24
Speaker
And yeah, in bad mood, it really does. I like that part a lot. I did not like specifically when he was making references. Well, it wasn't deadass, but it was something like that. Oh, he said something like that. He said no cap. That really kind of gave me the. I did not like that. Yeah, no, that was a little forced.
00:21:49
Speaker
um
00:21:52
Speaker
I mean... Is it crazy to say dial it back with the prosthetics or no? A little. I think it's a little over the top. Because there's parts where like... ah The smile was, I don't know if they were going for like an actual carved smile. I don't think so, but there's parts where like the prosthetic kind of like, you know, it was sticking out a little bit harder than yeah. Yeah. Or just like, you know, like one's fine when ghost performs. Yeah. Uh, again, that's fine. You know, they don't have a budget.
00:22:28
Speaker
I would say bottom line as far as this performance is concerned, give this man a shot DC James Gunn. That's like all the comments we're saying. Give him an audition. Like at James Gunn, at James Gunn. And I'm like, yeah, I feel like that's what this is. It's it's his audition tape, but everybody got to see it before James Gunn.
00:22:50
Speaker
I just want to say, ah and I hate to yuck people's yums, but if you were dressed up as the Joker for a YouTube 12 minute film to release, you should be put on a list.
00:23:02
Speaker
ratmo i I mean, they because I follow their Instagram page, the Joker Wild Instagram page, they were reposting people like fully cosplayed up as Joker to watch a 12 minute short film.
00:23:15
Speaker
That's odd. That's a little wild to me. That's a little like Dark Knight Rises shooter type, you know. Just saying. Yeah, no, but it is. um Yeah, maybe not for a 12 minute film. If you want to go to the release of like a full feature film like that. Hey, all the power to you want to go to a horror con comic con dress like that.
00:23:39
Speaker
Do it up! Do it up, but you're just sitting in your house on my couch. Or on the bus like me. I mean, it's just whatever, you know. Yeah, I was on my in-laws couch. They didn't know what I was doing, but I was like, this is cool. This is nice, yeah. you guys You guys know David Howard Thornton is? Never mind. Anna does, but they don't. Anna knows of him, but has never seen him in action. Is that valid?
00:24:06
Speaker
Did she make it through any of Terrifier? She was in the room for the chainsaw massacre in part three. ah Face was not staring at the screen though, so she heard it. Didn't see it. Didn't see it. And you know what?
00:24:24
Speaker
That's all right. That's not for everybody. Like, those are those are the movies where I'm not going to be like, you got to watch them because I know they're not for everybody. I would say if you like gore, you got to watch them. Oh, yeah, for sure. But every day for the culture. Terrifier. Yeah,
Casting Future Batman
00:24:41
Speaker
it is as as far as the horror culture is concerned. I think on a star reading for this, I'd probably give it a three to three and a half.
00:24:51
Speaker
It's a short film a lot of short films and letterbox don't get ratings at all, right? um But if I did probably a three or three and a half somewhere in there and yield Rob didn't really like do much he'd say anything Just screamed screamed. I mean he's getting tortured. So I'm sure a hostile Could have reminded me of I don't like hostile.
00:25:13
Speaker
o And I respect it. But I do have to still watch Hostile 2. No, you don't. If you don't like Hostile 1, you're definitely not gonna like Hostile 2. But if it gets more gory, maybe I'll like it. Yeah, but the story gets worse if you can believe it. Do they spend more time on the story? Because that's really what I don't like about it. Yes. It's just not, it's cringed like 2000s storyline that I don't like. Yeah. And then part three is like... There's a part three?
00:25:42
Speaker
Yeah, but there's reasons people don't know about it. I don't think Eli Roth was like even involved. Okay, I mean that then I'm out. Yeah. yeah yeah ah But I never thought about it. I think it's really good point that you bring up that this is like his audition tape. That's probably why Rob didn't say much.
00:25:58
Speaker
Yeah. Never thought about like that. You see Batman, like not really. So the legs and like bare you get a fucking lawsuit from DC. Well, yeah. Hey, you've been served. What do you think you'd rate it if you were to rate it? I'm probably with you like a three. You know, I mean, it's nothing. Right. I'm not going to say it's not special because it is, but.
00:26:25
Speaker
I mean, what can you give a short film, you know? Yeah, ah i I mean, I think we both would say give this man a shot. If anything, like at least get him in, ah you know, and have him like do something in person. I don't think he's right for the Robert Pattinson universe. You don't know.
00:26:48
Speaker
You think it's got to be he's too funny? Yeah, I like it. And it's grounded in reality. I don't know if it's a hot take, but I like the Barry Keogan Joker for that universe. I think I like it. I like his even though he had like literally 30 seconds of screen time. I think I'd like his fit more than. David Howard Thorne's not that I don't want him to have the fucking job, but like he would be good in. Like the suicide squad type James Gunn.
00:27:18
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:21
Speaker
Is James Gunn doing anything like that? Well, James Gunn's taken over the whole DCU. And allegedly, from what I heard, they were trying to merge the Robert Pattinson Batman universe with the DCU. You should not do that. 100% don't do that. Because. The vibe is so different. Just the trailer of Superman screams.
00:27:48
Speaker
Yeah. Mm. Like I said, childish, not a bad way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like very comic straight. And Robert Pattinson is very grounded in reality. So I don't think you I mean, Superman's not fucking grounded in reality, obviously, because he's Superman. But you know what I mean? The timing, the yeah, the tone is the tonality is different to where I would not.
00:28:14
Speaker
I don't think it'd
DC Universe Integration
00:28:15
Speaker
be a good mashup. So if, all I've also read that they're gonna cast, we're gonna have another Batman. So the DCU is gonna have their own Batman. Whoever that's gonna be. I don't know who it wanted to be. I mean, that is an interesting question. Keanu. Keanu, a little too old. You think so? For my personal selection, a little too old.
00:28:41
Speaker
Also, Keanu's great with those like hand like fight choreography things, but it's also a lot of that credit. I mean, shout out Keanu Reeves, first of all, okay? A fucking legend. But if you don't get a stunt or fight choreographer, or you don't get something like Chad Stellanski or whoever his name is, it's not really gonna compare. You gotta get someone good, because like I don't even think the fight scenes in ah The Batman are that great. No, they're not.
00:29:08
Speaker
So if you get Keanu, which I don't know if I'm for that, I think you make a good Bruce because he's very good at being reserved. I was just throwing out like someone who does like the very quick action, you know. Right. I agree with that. I mean, I hear you out on that. Yeah, I i think he's a little too old, but do you think you'd be a good Bruce. He'd be good. He'd be good for like Flashpoint Paradox. Yeah, like a like a Bruce that doesn't really fight like he's just Batman beyond. I don't
Movie 'Presence' Review Introduction
00:29:37
Speaker
I'm not familiar.
00:29:39
Speaker
So Batman's like basically retired and this new kid's like up and coming and he kind of like trains him. It's a good show. That's the one where like the kid is like all black and has a red bat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No cape. No cape. No cap. No capes. Let us know who you want to be Batman, the DC. We have not, as we've said, covered too much of a superhero related movie material on this podcast, really.
00:30:09
Speaker
Not really. No. And the one time we talked about the Superman trailer, was that in violent night or did the other recording? I think it was. It was in violent night. Okay. so i had talk about I remember listening to that at work. Bang. And if you haven't heard that episode, go listen to it. What are you doing? ah We'll transition over to our review on presence by one Steven Soderbergh. It is a Berg.
00:30:31
Speaker
Um, what up, Berg? It's not Berg. I will read you your cast. Uh, we have Lucy Liu who plays Rebecca. She was the mom. the I, this is a not, I think her personality specifically drove me out of a not fucking it. Yeah. ah Um, she also kinda at the very end of the movie, I feel like you saw her face more from like a straight on angle. She's got too many.
00:31:01
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asian features for me like really hard asian features you know what the serious we we we might have to cut that on i know um you asked uh we'll just hit the he ain't fucking it he ain't fucking it Chris Sullivan plays Chris, we're not fucking him. He's kind of a cuck. Why the fuck does this guy look so familiar? I, right? He, didn't he was in Guardians. I don't know. He was in Guardians 2. Who was in Guardians 2? Please hold. Oh, he was Taserface. Oh shit. but That guy had so much fucking cosmetics on. yeah Prosthetics. What's the difference between cosmetics and prosthetics?
00:31:48
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Once like sticks on your face says like a fuck ah someone let us know call it. Yeah, I think prosthetics like uh Like if you're transitioning you got like a prosthetic cock Hey, yo, you think you get ah a fucking hog on you too? A prosthetic hog? You probably could, dude. That's kind of what's up. That's what I need to look into that. one He's an Imperium. I've wanted to watch that movie. That's ah some movie where Daniel Radcliffe is like undercover and he says hard R. It's very exciting. Harry Potter says the hard R, ladies and gentlemen. Dude, ah we should um do it for the pod.
00:32:27
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I'm down or not. I don't know. I feel like it's interesting to movie. We have. We both haven't seen for the podcast. You would already do that. I mean, these right. nice Also, while I'm looking at the Guardians of the galaxy cash or shout out Dave Batista. OK. Oh, yeah. um I walk alone.
00:32:46
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uh yep i that's not a green day reference if you thought that sorry it's okay uh kalina liang plays chloe there is no mistake here we checked she's of age she's actually two years old i'm born 96 Dang. According to IMDB, so we are both acting under the premise that she is of age. She's like 29. She can fucking get it. um That scene, dude, where ah she first meets ah Chris, who is like the brother's friend, and she's just laying on her bed, just asked out. Kate Ryan. Chris's dad.
00:33:36
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Ryan. It is Ryan, sorry guys. It's okay. White people names. Right, they all look the same. ah Whenever, I mean he could have been named Chris, I would have believed it. yeah yeah He could have any name. He fits more of a Chris, a Kyle. He should have been Kyle. He definitely has a Kyle vibe, I 100% agree with that.
00:33:55
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But and you know what I'm talking about when she was laying on the bed with her the u those pajama pants on? Just caked up. I mean, healthy gray or black, but I'm not even upset about it. ah She plays Chloe. She's a baddie and gives a good performance. I think everybody in this movie has a good performance. I agree with that, with a little asterisk, but I agree with that.
00:34:23
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A little asterisk on maybe Ryan. No, I'll say with what they're given, they do a good job. That's what I'll say. OK. OK, yeah. um Eddie Maday. Eddie Maday. I need to get that button. Eddie. He plays Tyler, who is the brother. He has no acting credits besides this movie. Well, that's really crazy because I thought he was one of the better
00:34:49
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You did. I did. Well, come back to that. All right. Julia Fox plays Cece. I don't know who she is. Was she the real estate agent? She was a piece, bro. Give her the fucking she was. I'm pretty. I'm almost positive she was the real estate agent. Then we got his name is Lily Westmole Holland. He plays Ryan. Fuck this dude all around. in Gum bag. I mean, fantastic performance, but what a scumbag. Also, ah not the way I thought his character was going to go. Me neither. And looking back, it seems kind of obvious, but we completely missed it. Right. We'll get to it, which is great. Oh, sure. Yeah, well which is great. We got Lucas. This is a fucking Greek ass last name, Papa.
00:35:42
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hopa Papa Papa Elias, dude, that guy from WWE, wwe his name is Elias, right? Oh, yeah. Walk with a Elias. Papa Elias, if you want to reach out to the pod and let us know what your actual name is, tell us. Is he the cousin to Papa emeritus? Shout out Papa emeritus. I don't have the rat's button because I uploaded the ya mean. I'm also still running that. I call it the Harry Potter soundboard. So we don't have the normal buttons right now. Right. We got to get we got one more recording to go and then we can fuck around more with the buttons.
00:36:13
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oh That might stay that's probably goingnna stay ah We have I skipped one person but No, we didn't say who he is. He's Carl. I think he's the husband of like the psychic lady. Yes We have Wow, the painter got a got a fucking credit before the actual Psychic woman that is kind of fucking wild Natalie Wulan's Torres plays Lisa. She is the um
00:36:44
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psychic lady and she has been in first reformed people love that movie hot take I'm not a fan that has Ethan Hawken it what a shocker why you don't like it oh hold on it's got Cedric the entertainer I fucking hate Cedric the sucks we are not fucking her he ain't knocking it He ain't fucking it. I don't feel the need to give the shout-out to the painter or the contractor, but they were talking about a football game. They were talking about football, so that's cool. They were talking about the Green Bay Packers. Shout-out, that's Jake's favorite team after the Jets. And that is your cast. I don't think we need to shout anybody else out. This movie literally takes place in a building. A building? A house. A singular house. You don't leave this house until the very end. That was crazy. I don't know how they pulled that shot off. Anyway.
00:37:36
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I don't know how they... i'll I don't know how most movies do that. they do I'm pretty stupid. I don't know. I mean, I can barely make clips as it is. to be To be fair, nowadays, that could have easily been a drone. But the quality he was like... Chef's kiss. Yeah. You know? ah Do you want to go first or me to go first?
00:38:00
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ah I've been edging you, so you can go first, because I want to edge you more. Yeah, um' I mean, I have the the blue balls is going to be crazy. All right. So what you're going to try to do is do our positives first, then do the negatives. But as you know, this is a podcast tend to tap it. Sure. ah That is actually negative. So I'm going to give that a skip and go to the next one. ski The first thing I want to say, can we just.
00:38:28
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I'm also just curious. Do you think the mom was trying to fuck her son? Bro. Bro, she was putting it on for this man. Bro, that one scene where she's like, I've been doing this all for you. Everything's for you. And she's like caressing his hand and like- Bro, they're sitting on the couch and she's like having a drink and her arms out like that? Yeah. And he's like, he's like, well, what about Chloe? And she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's cool. But, but you.
00:38:53
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You have this big muscle you swim it literally yeah, you fucking Michael felt I just want to fucking lick your abs you be mico fail You talk like that. I was an Asian accent for Michael Phelps that was a fucking me hu it was terrible ah Yeah, well Uh, I feel like for Asian accent, you can only go in like that fucking. Oh, like that's all really, really, accent and really stereotypically racist. Oh, yep. But we're not racist. No. Um, but yeah, also he swims. Fuck you. You'd agree that she's trying to fuck him, right? Yeah. Well, if not, fuck like it. There's so many scenes where I was like, this is the start of a porno, right?
00:39:42
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I mean, I was waiting for it to get stuck in that fucking oven. That'd be crazy.
Themes & Storytelling in 'Presence'
00:39:48
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Also, nice ass house, we should say that. House was nice. Crazy house. I was like. They did say they bought it for eight and a quarter thousand. So. Yes, she talked real quick and real slick, so I didn't get the whole thing. Hey, I was I was fucking I he I drink an energy drink before I drink like went in the theater, so I was fucking.
00:40:11
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oh my Oh, I have to say this I Went to the AMC a different one not the one in Boston Collins because Amy flat-ass soda and fuck that guy You can refer back to our last episode um but I went to the AMC next to TD Garden it opened up recently not actually that's not even true, but This AMC they have the Johns. It's just the computer screen you order and you just go pick it up. Oh, that's dope Yeah, so I'm a fucking idiot And I accidentally bought ah the re Regal, the AMC branded chocolate covered peanuts. So not M&Ms. Oh. On accident, because I mean, this is if anybody out there who knows me, even you, like you this is a classic Nick thing to do. yeah Yeah. So classic order, the wrong thing, like just. Like if you were staying there, you'd be like, do you hit the fucking wrong thing? dude That's not the right one. I'd be like, oh, you're right.
00:41:08
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I've done that before, honestly. Can I say this? Okay. Cheaper than peanut M&Ms. Okay. And tastes good. Now, better than peanut M&Ms, absolutely fucking not. Not many things are. I don't like peanuts, right? I think we've probably discussed this.
00:41:27
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peanut butter only for back to our trick-or-treat episode that has no numbers go listen on episode oh listen that's a good episode ah peanut butter is like my bane of existence but i'm coming around on peanuts more and more and peanut m&m's fucking slap hard i love a peanut m&m dude Put them in my ass. All right. Yeah, right. Exactly. Keep them guessing. Are we gay? Are we not? Anyways, so I got those for this this viewing. Also, theater, three people. And there was a guy in front of me that laughed at everything. I want to fucking kick him in his head. Three people. was really Yeah, he was really right in front of me. I want to kick him right in his dumb head. How was the AC since it's like right next to TD? Was it like?
00:42:08
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The setup is very weird. Oh, you got to go up. now You got to go to a bunch of spoiler. ah You got to go up a bunch of elevator escalators to get to where you're going. But ah the theaters are smaller, which is kind of nice. But empty ass theater. Right. And I bought my ticket. There was already a guy who had one corner. So I take the other corner. Right. This douchebag corner their campers. I love a corner seat in the theater. I don't care what anybody says. It makes no difference if you sit in the middle.
00:42:36
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Sorry. I feel. But this fucking douche takes the seat right in front of me. You have the whole the whole thing is empty. Takes the seat right in front of me. Were you very, very back left or back right? If you're facing the the screen back, right. OK. Why is he there? Yeah. like What is your like, are you a corner guy and you got like super mad or like, I'm going to take the next corner.
00:43:05
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Oh, this dude? Yeah. How about just don't fucking go? How about that? But pick any other fucking seat. Bro, if... Because I haven't been in a sold-out theater. such Wicked for me wicked. Yeah wicked was sold to fuck out Moana to the first time I saw it was sold out but again That was like around Christmas time but like if I buy a ticket and there's people like in front of me I go like diagonal back of them You know, so I'm not behind them and most of the time people don't sit behind me or in front of me So that's nice, right?
00:43:42
Speaker
But yeah, if you're like spread out. Spread eagle, baby. There was a dude that sat in the first row. Yeah, some people like that. um It was weird. Are you like trying to save money on IMAX? So you're sitting in the front. I just just mad because there was no IMAX. So they just were like, fuck it. I'm going to sit in the front front row and break my neck.
00:44:07
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Yeah, i don't have you I don't even have an IMAX like near me. I got to drive a minute. I would only consider at Alamo sitting in the third row from the front. And even that kind of sucks. But if it's a new release that I want to see, I'll do it. For the most part, I got to be in the middle to the back. I sat in the front once and it wasn't IMAX actually. It was for Rise of Skywalker. Bad movie. Yep. My first ever and only IMAX experience was Rise of Skywalker.
00:44:33
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Yeah, that movie's a fucking he a big skip. Yep. Anyways, so that was that was what it was going into it. I want to say this movie ah fucking blew me the fuck away. I don't know. I was not really expecting anything. I was going in blind besides the marketing, which we can talk about later.
00:44:55
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um
00:44:58
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You kind of don't really know where it's going. until later in the film is kind of a slow burn, but it's really, really, really well paced. Uh, and I guess we should tell the audience for the premise, a family moves into a home that has a ghost in it and the camera work here, you are the ghost. Right. It's, and I don't want to, it's kind of paranormal activity esque. That's literally what I wrote in my review. Really?
00:45:32
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Yeah, but like picture you like you are like a like a fly on the wall, essentially, or a ghost in a house, literally ghost in house, just picture you but you're invisible, no one can see you. That's what it is. I also think so specifically with the camera work for the ghost in this house, the the camera movements, it's almost hard to describe. But the way They do it. It gives so much character to the ghost itself. Like that scene where like she was fucking riding Tyler. What the fuck his name is. They were going at it, bro. She was rubbing her clip all over that dude's fucking stomach. Yeah. And like she was getting into it. I mean, they were going hard. It was like hot. It was like cut and then like straight fucking. Yeah. From a distance. And but you see like you see the
00:46:27
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You're in the closet. You're in the closet. I'm also in the closet. You see the camera kind of turned away. Yeah, like, I don't want to be watching this. Yeah, and it gives, like, almost a sense of, like, because you're trying to figure out the whole time, like, who this ghost is. And I don't, I don't can see. no I still don't know. I do not concede that this ghost is the friend. I do not necessarily believe that. This ghost, I feel like the actions of this ghost and the way they do the game work, it almost feels like the ghost is a little kid.
00:46:55
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There is like like some sort of innocence about it almost. Yeah. Where like it realizes what, like as you realize that Tyler, Chris, whoever the fuck he is, fucking Steve. White guy Chris. White guy Chris.
00:47:10
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ah Once you realize that white guy cress is like a nefarious character You kind of realize it with the ghost because you are the audience is the ghost you're viewing it through the ghost perspective, right? I find that so interesting. It was I think it's done her so well he Yeah, it's it's new. I also want to commend this movie and this is Probably a tad personal maybe we'll cut it. I don't know. I feel like I in life in nuclear families that have two siblings and two parents living in a household especially for me growing up as a kid a parent and a sibling are off doing their own thing and the other parent and the other sibling are off doing their own thing like when I was a kid
00:47:57
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Me and my dad were doing, this is gay shit, some Boy Scout shit. Not getting diddled, but we were out there doing things. And then my sister
Technical Analysis of 'Presence'
00:48:06
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like had her life doing cheer.
00:48:09
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with my mom like my mom was like completely wrapped into that it's not like it didn't express itself in the way that this movie does with the favoritism like the extreme favoritism towards one child not the other but on a personal level it was super relatable because this girl ah Chloe is trying to process her grief of losing two of her friends to a a drug overdose or getting drugged with Ketamine, fentanyl. Fentanyl. Fentanyl, one of those. It's fucking crazy. Right, which happens in life today. Yeah, I mean, there're they literally took like the new like drug epidemic and put it in this movie. Right. ah She's going through some shit, and the mom, because the mom is so wrapped up in, what's the son's name now? Tyler. Tyler is his name? Tyler's the son.
00:49:05
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Tyler's the song Chris the dad Ryan the scumbag Ryan, okay, so She's so wrapped up in Tyler's World that she said you're just full of shit. Also Tyler's like you're I don't believe any of this He's kind of an asshole, too Right. And the dad is the only one that's kind of like, I'm on your side. I believe you. But the dad is also kind of a weak person. I feel like he's a little bitch until the end. Yeah. Towards the end. Towards the end. When he finally stands up for his family. Yeah. So like I said, extremely well paced, really great performances. I think specifically, even though he's a piece of shit in the movie ah by Ryan,
00:49:51
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and by ah by Chloe, who are kind of the two main in this movie. And the dad, I'm sure the dad in real life is not an actual cuck bitch, but he does act and portray a little cuck bitch very, very well. Yeah. um and I couldn't even tell like what they do for jobs.
00:50:11
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The mom, the mom must make bank. Oh, she's got to be the breadwinner. ah She's the one that's like always on the phone, always on the computer, like doesn't want like don't talk to me. I'm on the phone with whoever. um Did you notice this, too? I felt like she was like trying to conceal what she was doing. Yeah, when he was around when she was like, I think she was like going through her emails, deleting a bunch of shit. And he came in and then she completely like went to the other side of the bed, turned around.
00:50:37
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Hands on the like top of the computer like always all the time like closing it. Yeah, she was fucking a little nefarious ass bitch, too ah Anyways, those are my positives. I'll let you Go cuz I've been edged long enough Fucking edged edge to the fucking max over here. You text me this morning. What did you say? Am I i have my hottest take? Yeah, i heard that what you said I think my star rating is gonna be a hot, is gonna be hot. It might be my hottest take, okay.
00:51:10
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Yeah, the floor the floor is yours for positives. I'm positive for HIV. That's a problem. That's a lie. That's a problem. Yes. So crime kind of kind of kind of what we um have hit on. I'll hit on you. i you How you the the ghost is the character, right? And I like how they interact with the world like
00:51:40
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Whenever, like when the, um, that one scene when Chloe goes into the, like, she's taking a shower. Right. And like, you never see in ghost movies, you never see like their perspective. You know, you're always like the outside looking in. Yeah. You're on a video camera, like fucking paranormal activity or you're.
00:52:03
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Yeah, but like it it felt like. Even like the conjuring too, right? It's like, yeah. Sorry. So like when when the ghost is like picking things up and moving it, it's in a way where. Like if I looked, if I was doing the exact same thing, that's how it would look, but I can't see my hand. You know what I mean? It also has like those kind of like.
00:52:28
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Was it telekinesis where like there's that scene where it like closed the door for her, like when she's like in the room or like organize her books need before. Right.
00:52:42
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What a room. The, um, I feel like it, it, the characters all felt very real. Yeah.
00:52:56
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Like if you told me that I was watching like just like security cam footage of like a like a your average like middle class family, I'd probably believe you. People live in their lives in a household. Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:12
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um
00:53:16
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The. There's not a lot of music in this movie. But there really isn't I never thought about that isn't but I felt that whenever The music was playing it was hitting like You knew like shit was going down or like something really serious was happening because in like everyday conversation there wasn't Any money right and I really like The cuts so I guess that's something we can talk about
00:53:48
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um The way this movie is, is like, it's just little segments, I i guess you would call them. Not segments, but. Right. Kind of turned segments, I would say that kind of like once the scene is over, it it goes black and it's kind of like you just like press pause on like a recording or something.
00:54:13
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What do you think the intention behind that is? Because I noticed them more towards the beginning of the film. And then yeah as we got to the second and third act, they kind of stopped. I I think it's um like the ghost kind of like feeling them out. Right. Like it's not there all the time. It's just popping in now and then seeing what's going on until it starts getting attached to Chloe more.
00:54:43
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almost like you're gathering evidence. Yeah. Like, yeah, it's like scoping it out. Like, like a detective. Do you think it's fit? Like, do you? I don't think it it can leave. I mean, I guess it can't because it does at the end, but I don't think it can leave. Yeah. Well, actually leave. That's what the psychic said. Like, however, whatever happened to them happened in the house. And if my ghost knowledge is anything from all the Spooky shit I get into Usually like the spirits are stuck there because they can't move on If you die like there was a mirror right the mayor is a big part and in ghost lore ah Souls can get trapped in the mirror like if you look in a mirror It like kind of keeps that image forever. I know it sounds kind of stupid, but that's what they say So like it's kind of like this the the
00:55:39
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you know, you're trapped where you died. I am curious, ah as far as ghost Laura is concerned, if there is any kind of because we see the ghost to leave the house, or it's just a zoom out, but you are the ghost. So it's not really as just a zoom out. But and in it must be intentional. Like I don't think they just did that to do it. ah I wonder if there's any kind of Because the ghost effectively saved Chloe's life from white guy. ah Sorry. I just, I don't care about his name. Uh, Ryan, right? ryan yeah Ryan. Um, I wonder if it.
00:56:19
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its It was able to like redeem itself by saving a life that it was able to let go almost of the house. Like it now now it can finally, because it's like in limbo. It can rest. Yeah. Your soul is rested. So it was ascending. So it was like going up to heaven. Yeah. If that's real. But God's not real. So I don't know. yeah i don't I don't even know. if I mean, I believe in ghosts. but um right You've talked about your ghost experience on this podcast. Yeah, i so I don't know how it works. But shit, if if if it is real, I could definitely see this being their life.
00:56:56
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Yeah, yeah, I 100 percent agree with that. We'll go into the the negative. I don't have too much to say. I have a kind I don't either. I got two or three things I want to say. I don't really think uh this is the the aforementioned asterisk i don't think the brother's character is fleshed out too well i like i said i think his performance is good i don't think the actor does a bad job uh i just don't think there's much to him besides like he's a he's a swimmer and it could be like oh he's a jock but
00:57:33
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not really because like he want he's bringing that kid over to like him because that kid is like the popular kid school how the fuck is this kid the popular kid at school yeah i don't know i mean he gives off like where are you like he gives that off honestly like he either gives off like emo vibes because that that's his whole thing like i'm depressed i'm lonely he's either emo kid or school shooter I agree with that. Also, I just didn't don't like as the film progresses. I find it interesting. I just don't really get this kid's deal because they're in that room. They're in her room. Sorry. And she's like trying to process or has like kind of a mental break about like her losing her friends. And maybe it's they've already seen the ghost in the house and the parents don't believe her or whatever.
00:58:20
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um and she's laying on her bed and the guy like she's like literally crying like sobbing in his arms and he like suddenly makes it about him maybe that's like to help make him a villain but i don't really get
00:58:35
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Maybe we're not supposed to get it, but I don't really get his Motive yeah, right cuz he's talking about how he has like no control in his family Maybe he's also a swimmer and his parents are pressuring him to like be a swimmer He has no control or say over that, but I don't get how that Corley stuff. I'm gonna kill
Criticisms & Impressions of 'Presence'
00:58:52
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women Well, yeah, sorry. Yeah, sorry um We'll get into that but yeah that that I don't get Like is it
00:59:06
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Is it like fuck the world mentality? Is it incel type shit? The only thing that I could derive from it is that he has a bad relationship with his mother. Therefore, he's going to start killing women, which kind of makes sense for a white guy ah with mommy issues to just start killing women. I guess that makes sense. I mean, that's a good portion of the serial killers in history. But also respectfully, Chloe, you have terrible taste in men.
00:59:34
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Yeah, this guy's not even good looking. No. ah So that's as far as the movie is concerned, that's the only like negative. And the other big negative I have about this movie is the marketing. ah Neon, what are we doing? You can't market it every single movie as the scariest movie ever made. Because frankly, this movie is not that. This is not a horror movie. I mean, it's it's ah it's a slow burn thriller. That's what this movie is.
01:00:04
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I don't even know. i don't this is To me, this is not horror. There's nothing oh no no that that suggests horror of this movie. There's like no jump scares either. ah you cant even No. So if you if you go into this movie, and I know a lot of audience are because they all I know is what Neon has been marketing it as, if you go into the movie thinking you're going to get that, you're going to get a paranormal activity-esque movie,
01:00:29
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you are going to be deeply disappointed because that's not what this movie is. Now, thankfully, I listen to other film podcasts who saw this movie at like film festivals and were like, hey, by the way, this is not what the trails make it seem like it's going to be. This is actually more like this. So then you go in knowing, all right, I'm not going to get a straight horror movie and you can accept the movie for what it is. So if you've already seen the movie thinking all we suck was even scary, go watch it again as a slow burn thriller.
01:00:56
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but That's really all I have as far as negatives. You said we were going to get into the ending. Did you have something to say about the ending? I'll give my negative. um
01:01:07
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The way it kind of all ends is a little anticlimactic. You think?
01:01:17
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It was a little abrupt, like maybe like another like one or two minutes. Maybe like right after. OK, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, right? I should have said at the top, but I didn't. When Tyler like gets out of his little drug thing, when the ghost goes and like wakes him up. Yeah. And he just kind of like stumbles up and yeets him into ah Fuck, why don't you remember his name? White guy out of the window, Ryan. um And then it just cuts to like literally the last scene of the movie. I think the mom breaking down after seeing her son in the mirror was substantial. I mean, it's valid. it's valid i think It does end, I guess, abruptly. If you wanted more, it's valid, I would say. I don't you want to say it like, because the the length is perfect.
01:02:15
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is my length perfect. No, it's too small. No. By the way, I thought of this at work today. When I go to TSA, I have to check an extra bag. That's my ball bag because it's so fucking big. There you fucking go.
01:02:30
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um I feel like it would have like maybe like another like a minute or two scene of like maybe like the cops pulling up and like the ghost watching from inside the house. I don't know.
01:02:44
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I feel like I don't know. So it's probably this is probably super fucking nitpicky. That's what I'm getting at. I know. I don't I don't think that's nitpicky. I don't think that's a terrible thing to ask for. I think that the I think that bothered you. and Wolf, it was nitpicky. But this I don't think so. um No, I'll say ah I guess it's not a negative that I kind of missed. But when Chloe invites Tyler over for tyler ryan Ryan Ryan somebody stereotypical like me when she invites a white boy over my boy Rick when she invites him over ah She's like, well, what are you doing my brother? Cuz like we want to fuck but he's gonna be here and he really says like a zanny like a Xanax He's loose like I'm gonna drug him shout out little zan. I guess not shut up really no um But
01:03:39
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She's like, okay with it. And at first I was like, you literally signed up for this. So I don't know why you're freaking out. But then she like retcons it and was like, I know I said, you know, I'm OK with it, but I'm not OK with it. Like it's a little too far. Right. But at that point, she's already taken the drink. but She didn had been roofied. She got fucking straight roofied. What I was saying, though, is like once she does get drug and she's lying there on the bed and that guy white boy Rick is like on top for like talking some weird psychopathic shit to her. I'll be honest, I was on the edge of my seat. Cause I was like,
01:04:17
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He's going to kill her. He puts that like really thin plastic wrap on her mouth. I was like, it's scary, dude. I was like getting my anxiety going. I was literally on the edge of my seat. So the ghost is there. And I'm like, just thinking like, what dude, what are you you going to do about this, bro? You got to figure this shit out soon. so So and then you also get the little hint because you see the ghost. He's looking. I don't want to misgender this ghost. This ghost could be any gender. OK, they them.
01:04:48
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When they go looking out the window ah and you see the psychic refusing to go back in the house and tell the father something about a locked window, fast forward to the scene where this Chloe is about to die. You're like, what window is going to come into play with this? What is what does all this mean? He fought the ghost is finally able to wake up fucking homeboy, the brother.
01:05:13
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And then you get the unfolding of the the events where he tackles them, they go out the window, and then it cuts, which I yeah, it's abrupt. But I will say I think the reason why it is or how I interpreted it as being like that is because ah thematically, I think it's more about grief and like dealing with tragedy. Like she, this whole movie, Chloe is trying to deal with the death of her two friends that she knew, which the mom in the budget dismiss. Fuck you people assholes, but what the fuck? Yeah. Like just dismiss like her grief. That's her, her emotions to feel out, dude. You can't, you can't just be suppressing those emotions. No, yeah oh even though we talk about pushing something down, uh, you know, Harry Potter episode, but
01:05:57
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My dad was like, you know, we should look into a new therapist and that the mom's like time will heal all wounds Yeah, and it is such an interesting flip in dynamic because typically you'd expect the mom to make that argument and the dad to be like Nah, she'll be okay. Don't show emotions because it's a boomer Sure, right, but he's actually very much intact with his emotions He's yeah, almost too much a little bit. Yeah, but I um
01:06:28
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I connected with him a lot. Personally, because um he's kind of like me in a way like he's like like when he was calling that guy to talk about all that legal shit, which is I'm assuming his wife's doing some illegal shit because that's what he called about. I mean, she's hiding something. Hiding something illegal. That's why they have all this money, which also bummed me. They didn't even try to tackle it. It's like, yeah, we're going to our house.
01:06:56
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Yeah, but I think that's I think that's part of it, though, like it's all, you know. They didn't get time to unfold that because of all the shit that happened. Yeah, but you I don't think you can you can end the movie with. We're going to pack up and leave this house move somewhere else and. Are you led to assume is it supposed to be ambiguous of like what happens to that family or yeah, i look happily ever after? I mean, no, I think it's literally like.
01:07:25
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Like, you know, if something like that happened, like ah a death of like your child or something, everything else that like you were thinking about or whatever is just, it's gone, right? So we don't need to find the resolution because the story of the, like the ghost story, right? Is gone. Like the ghost doesn't need to know.
01:07:47
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That's why they were showing it's valid. Yeah, like the ghost doesn't get a fuck. Yeah. um But the dad is like, everything's just falling apart. I don't know what to do. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty dark, but yeah, then I've been in that situation. So like. I get it, dude, I get it, Chris. That's weird. I like bald guys, especially in porn, bald guys and porn bother me.
01:08:16
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Yeah, and bob be for a while, too. Anyway, um I did not see him being a killer. I thought he was going to rape her. But as soon as they start fucking, you're like, well, he's not going to rape her because they're already fucking for no drugs involved, no forcing her to fuck you. Yeah, but he could be like a narcissist or some shit. I don't get how that relates to raping somebody.
01:08:41
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If you're already fucking them, why would you? If you're already having consensual sex, why would you rape them? It's like a power play. You have gone down the rabbit hole. I have not. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, because like when like when she's laying there, right? Yeah. He basically does that. He says it says that shit like, oh, you're doing this because I want you to do this. Like, you know.
01:09:08
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You're right, buddy. The plan was to kill her. Sure, but we didn't know that yet. No, and I like I was sitting there like why I didn't get that whole power play thing. I got the whole control thing because the whole thing was like, oh, you know, you're in control. He wanted her to. He gave her a false sense that she was in control. Yeah, like and every time, like you said, he was changing it all about him.
01:09:33
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Also crazy to like, the first time we like, so the brother introduces him to Chloe and then they go in like to his room and he's like, bro, respectfully, I'm a little hard. Like, can I hit? Can you imagine that bro? Like, what if I just first time wild behavior i said that about your sister? like yeah let me Hit it yeah like no I'd be like and the kid was like and because I kid The brother wants to be like so bad. He was like oh yeah Yeah, and then but then he was like yo. He literally said no smoke I don't want the smoke, but let me hit that No smoke, but regards what you say. I'm gonna be fucking rinsing out your sister. Yeah while you're fucking I
01:10:19
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That's crazy, man. That is that was some wild. I mean, he is definitely a for sure. Hatable character. I just so also I guess I guess it's like when you're Chloe's character and you've gone through all this trauma and you're vulnerable. If someone offers a like a shoulder to cry on your kind of just like, yep, that's kind of how a lot of like abuse victims. Not abuse, but well, I guess you could put it on that, too. ah You know, your relationship. Yeah, they just want they just want someone to care about them.
01:10:50
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So they just open up. Yeah, they they know yeah, exactly. They're telling you what you want to hear.
01:10:58
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Right. Yeah, it's it's deep shit. It's this movie is deep. Like i I walked out of the movie, the like as I was walking in my car, I was like. God damn, I wasn't I wasn't expecting to be like in the fields. Leave me down.
01:11:16
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Say
Final Ratings & Soderbergh Discussion
01:11:17
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again. It made me like think real hard about like life and shit. That's good. I'm happy to do that for you. Yeah. I think it's I think it's a should we do should we release say our ratings now? Has the time come? I think the time has come. I'll go first. to Let you keep edging me. But I'm at a I'm at a four. I think this is probably number two. It's better than um fucking find it. Neverland Nightmare, obviously. It's a way better movie than Neverland a Nightmare.
01:11:45
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ah but a really great movie. I have not seen too much from Mr. Steven Soderbergh, unfortunately. I've never heard of him. So he made ah Aaron Brockovich, which I have not seen. He also made the Ocean trilogy, which we should... Maybe on the ocean trilogy. I have not seen the ocean trilogy, though, either. I've always I always see them at ah insert movie store. Right. ah Shout to them. He made Logan Lucky, which I like. That's on Netflix streaming. It's a good movie. Has a dude Daniel Radcliffe, Channing Tatum and Adam Driver. Well, I'm down. Those are the Radcliffe. He could. That's a Daniel Radcliffe. Yeah. Daniel Craig. OK. Even better.
01:12:26
Speaker
I've been having these fucking slip ups recently. I don't know need magic Mike. Hold the fan magic Mike. If I haven't said that in the podcast, the first time I saw magic Mike was a back to back double feature. We went and saw Ted and my cousin snuck me into magic Mike. If you're wondering, he's gay. I saw it on TV with my mother. He also has a movie coming out. I believe it's coming out this year. If you didn't see the trailer for where you're sitting in your theater black bag. Yeah. Oh, that's him.
01:12:56
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Yeah, it's same guy. That's what the name sounded familiar. with Yeah. Kate Blanchett and Michael Fassbender. Some people say Fosbender. I don't know if it's Fos or Fass people. He's like, oh, you're would you kill your wife? Because they're like both working in like the same agency, but she's like the guy that she's the chick that he's investigating. Right. I mean, if it comes out this year and we're not, oh, it says March 14th. Maybe we can do a review on it. Maybe we can't. I don't know what's going on March 14th yet. Yeah, there's a lot of movies that they showed.
01:13:26
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We'll regroup. But yeah, I'm at a four. What are you at? ah don't get your don't get Don't get your hopes up. It's not a five star. ah But I am giving this a four and a half. I'm at four and a half. It's hard to give a five on off the rip. Oh, yeah. I'm like next watch, like maybe. Like watching this with other people to see what they think, maybe. Sure. I can see Anna giving this like a three.
01:13:53
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Bro, I know, and that would piss me off. Or Mark, like, you're fucking stupid. she Fuck you, Mark. It's not scary. yeah another fucking off it's scary no This movie really fucking wowed me. I was not expecting to... Like, i I wasn't the one... Like, I was still under the impression that it was, like, a horror movie, you know? Right.
01:14:19
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Uh, even like the first scene, like when you're just going up through the different rooms, I was like, there's gotta to be a jump scare here. But no, not ah nothing. And that, that like, once that happened, I was like, Oh, anything else you want to say on presence? No, I think I've said my piece. Go check it out. Like got a nice piece too. Thank you. It's bigger than mine. Hey, this is a pretty shadow us. This is a pretty, uh,
01:14:48
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Pete and PG-13 episode. I mean, we've been, into I don't think you remember what you said at the beginning of this episode that I'm with the cut. So just you were talking. I mean, we kind of went down the arrow road a little bit, but yeah but it's what it is. It is what it is. I mean, I feel like we should keep that brand up of saying wild shit. Obviously occasionally get your wholesome. Yeah. We review like this one.
01:15:16
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I'm gonna buy this on physical a thousand percent.
Upcoming Movies & Trailers
01:15:20
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Yeah i was um well Did they show any trailers beforehand that you were interested in I've we've talked about off pod, but ah black bag my interest level is It's peaked now a little bit more because of how good this was I still think that cap Captain America, New World, or whatever the fuck it's called, uh, has a chance to be good. And I know that's crazy to say. So we saw different trailers. That's cool. I didn't see companion. I saw that I saw black bag.
01:15:55
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Uh, that one where, uh, this lady's on a date in that restaurant and she's getting threatened. Yeah. I saw that one. I saw that one. Don't really care. me There's also one that I want to go see, not for the pod, just to go see it. That one Nova cane where like you can't feel anything that looks fun. It looks like a fun, just like a fun time. You know, um I saw ballerina that, that John wick. Yeah. Which I'd love to do for the pod, but.
01:16:21
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You were not in on that. I'm still in on it. I mean, we spoke about it a while ago. It's been a long time. Yeah, that was before I even like saw the trailer or anything. It's been a long drawn silver. ah John Wick's in it. So I'll see. Yeah. um Depends on our scheduling because we're kind of scheduling is crazy. Yeah, because there was um what else was there. I don't I don't know if that's going to be good, though. Fuck. Which movie? Say it. There's there was this movie, you know, Finn Wolfhard.
01:16:51
Speaker
Think that I saw his face. I probably know who he was. ah Fucking from from ah the guy from Stranger Things. He never seen that show. He's in it. Fuck. He's in it. Oh, yeah, Finn. I see him. OK, what's he going to be in? He's making a movie. It's like a slasher, but it's like a tongue in cheek. The the the hard eyes one. No. It's like hell. Hell of a summer. Hell of a summer. I found it. I know I did not see a trailer for this.
01:17:19
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They showed a trailer for that and it looks very. um Oh, it's also neon. Yeah. Full circle. Sorry. They showed a lot of. um It seems very. Not your typical like it's a no it's an aware slasher kind of like scream, but they take it in like the the the ah funny way. When's that coming out? We don't know. I'll fucking know April 18th, 2025. Also, I'm glad because companion comes out.
01:17:49
Speaker
We're reviewing that next week. We are also allegedly reviewing Mickey 17 the week that that movie comes out. So we need to do a combo joint. Yeah, if we want to. Yeah. I mean, that's a conversation. But let us know what you think. But I'm really happy you didn't see the new companion trailer because I'm still excited. Kind of ruins what it's about. But I didn't see it didn't come on. Also, I I've seen the first one so many times, the trailer that I just kind of pay it in mind.
01:18:19
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Yeah.
Phone Use & Pre-Movie Ads
01:18:22
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So... I'm still talking to my phone when the turtles are on. I think that's okay. You can have your phone when the turtles are on, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's fine. Once that light goes down, your light better go off. No, unless the Nicole Kidman ad's on, I'm not turning my phone off. Fuck you. I'm not gonna sit through that. I'm gonna sit there and do fucking movie trivia. Shout out Maria Menounos. Fucking, would you suck me? Please. So hot. I mean, it's unfair how hot she is. I'll get rid of the button.
01:18:49
Speaker
And now they got around the gas stations too? Like, come on. I gotta be bricked up while I'm fucking getting gas? Come on, dude. I'm about to start fucking the gas pump. ah Fuck my tailpipe.
01:19:07
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ah I was going to say something else, not about marine. Oh, do they have, because you had a regal, right? Unfortunately, yes. Do they have a laser? Nope. Over there. Okay. Well, recall. AMC does. AMC does. I know they do because they do, they go either their way to fucking do a whole ad in the same vein of like the Nicole Kidman ad for, for laser. And I just don't give a fuck. It does look better though, but it's all, does it? Yes. I only know it's different. There's IMAX and then there's everything else. It's all I think. Okay. So here's the thing, right? It's 3d bottom of the barrel. Yo, you ever been to a Cinnamark?
01:19:46
Speaker
I saw a guardian's one in a cinnamark. Bro, I saw Moana 2 the second time in a cinnamark. You saw Moana 2 twice? Unfortunate, huh? Oh, wow. Well, one was for the pod. And the second one was... Remember that kid? That little baby that was at my house? Shout to him. It was his birthday. And his hot mom. His hot mom. Now you know. I do...
01:20:10
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My friend. Oh, if you're listening, you're not listening. things so I'll take credit. You're hot. Also, it came from me. Yeah, I'll say it, too. I don't care. You're hot. Yeah. ah Get it. I'll go to the grocery store to give me the goods. Yeah, you fucking milf.
01:20:27
Speaker
Anyways, it was her son's birthday and she paid and I wasn't going to say no to a free. I was doing for free. I went for free. But anyway, Sinemark, that shit looked like I was watching a fucking TV screen, bro.
01:20:40
Speaker
Cinemark's nice, I just haven't been in a long time. Also, I have Alamo, so I just go to Alamo. Yeah, Cinemark's a little out of the way. ah the The regal I go to is literally right down the road. Yeah. So, but if if this one starts going down the shitter a little more, I don't know if their projectors are arse or what, but the service is good. That's why I like it. What was the crowd like for your showing? Uh, 10, 10 people, maybe.
01:21:08
Speaker
But you went on a Sunday Mill today. I went on a Thursday night. Sunday at noon and I live in the general Philadelphia area. Tri-State. I'll say Philadelphia area. and Okay. Because not a lot of people are out today because the Eagles game was on at three. Go Birds! Fuck the Eagles. Fuck the Birds. They won. fuck I'm a New York Giants fan. I believe Red. It's fucking...
01:21:38
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rebot re rematch. All right. Should we do a plug it-in with anything else to say? No, I think I'm good. Plug it in, plug it in. My ass.
01:21:48
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yeah
01:21:51
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Social Media & Listener Engagement
01:22:00
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Follow us on letterboxed. Follow us on tick tock for all the clips. Follow us on the use to use the clips so when that's get up and running. There are some there, just there's no new ones. OK. And then. Send us a voicemail if you're feeling feeling risque. How you doing? Send it to 5088fistus.
01:22:29
Speaker
508diptip? Convince me to be gay. Do it. We've been wanting it. No cockpicks. No cockpicks, but we can have like a little phone sex convo, you know? I don't want to see your cockpit, you know what I mean? Cockpit? That's crazy. Especially those crazy bush. I'm not interested. Oh, for sure. No, we want to see that fucking, that mean shaft throbbing.
01:22:50
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As y'all alluded to next week, we have a companion coming out out. I'm very excited for this. I saw the trailer a while ago and I hit you up and I was like, hey, watch this trailer. You interested? And you said, hey, yes. ah You bet I am.
01:23:06
Speaker
One more time. I just want to plug that Harry Potter is coming. These episodes are fucking wild. I would say it is our best our best work. Honestly, we we getting canceled. No, eventually no shot. We're not going to do it. We're not. We're not getting canceled. If you guys don't know that was jokes. Yeah, it's all jokes, please. And if yeah if you don't laugh at any of these,
01:23:33
Speaker
I don't think you have a funny bone in your body. You're dead. problem You're the problem. Yeah. Well, we're dead inside too, but.
Harry Potter Episodes Teaser
01:23:40
Speaker
Well, I'm dead inside to the point where I'll just say whatever the fuck comes to my head. Although the things that are too much, they're bleeped. And if you want to know what we said, ask us to make a Patreon. We'll do it for you. Where you'll get the full blown uncensored, ah the raw dogs, as we'll call them. Raw dogs. the Raw dog episodes. These, I mean, I'm very, very excited. I was talking to shout out Carlos today about ah these episodes that are coming out. They're great. People at my job that
01:24:10
Speaker
Don't listen, even though I told them I begged, please listen. call in They've said like, hey, let me know when those Harry Potter jo Jones are dropping and I'll listen in. I'm like, okay. harry's bopper Maybe this is our gateway. Maybe we'll hit the big time. The gateway truck. I can't get enough of two guys one screen. God damn it.
01:24:35
Speaker
um And then again right if you have any requests a movies you want us to review there are a few slots open So as far I mean we're we're planned out to June So there is some space if you think you want something let us know we're also oh Almost forgot. This is a segment I'd like to start doing with your permission. My permission? Yeah, because we're a team. yeah um I think it fits our vibe, what we
Humorous Movie List Concept
01:25:04
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do here. I have a list that's currently private on Letterboxd. The list is called Post Nut Regret. Now,
01:25:12
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Movies are eligible for either post not regret or not relax, bro I ain't jerking my gherkin to watch when I watch movies although if a movie or even although if a movie is a bit of a snoozer Sometimes I'll jerk my my meat. Yeah, I'm not watching the movie anymore, but they don't go on this list for that reason Okay, although I should make a list of movies. I've jerked off to other on the background That's crazy. That's wild Okay, we're movies you would actively jerk off to mmm, right?
01:25:40
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ah Black Swan. Oh, yep, I would probably get one off. Okay, so this is the criteria for post nut regret, okay? Have you seen the movie Fatal Attraction?
01:25:56
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No. Okay, so Fatal Attraction is a movie that stars ah Michael Douglas and ah Glenn Close. i She was a piece back in the day. Either way, Michael Douglas' character decides that he's going to have an affair and cheat on his wife. Now, the problem is, because he cheats on his wife, you watch them sleep together, and then afterwards, she becomes like a crazy stalker bitch.
01:26:21
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Okay, and like wants to like be with with him all the time because he's one of his family She hatches a plan to try to murder him and the events unfold That was kind of a spoiler for her fail attraction haven't seen it movie count fucking a 97 so you're good. This bitch looks fucking crazy though. She's hot as hell though. I should get the fucking goods Okay, so here's the criteria you in the movie Not you in the movie. You have to watch in the movie a character has sex with another character and goes on to regret that decision. But they have to like have sex or it's inferred they have. Like you start seeing tussle in the sheets and it cuts away or something. Okay. That is what qualifies for posting regret. If you want to know some more examples, I'll give you some more examples. We have that movie.
01:27:09
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I put I spit on your grave as probably not okay. That is a real raggy. I mean, do they have post nut regret though? No, I think she got raped. Well, yes, I would say that I would say the killers who they have it because the killers didn't kill they raped her to get a nut off and then they get tortured to death. So that is post not regret. You did that all for a nut. The consequences of your nut.
01:27:35
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have caused the events, okay? Yeah. Next movie I got on here, Infinity Pool. Okay. Y'all gonna act like that guy getting jerked off on the beach and stay a little bit longer to get jerked off again? Yeah. because At the end of the day, us men are very simple. We just wanna nut. That's all it is. That's all it is. I'm not the biggest fan of that movie. Not, well, yeah. Fair enough.
01:27:56
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Uh, we have Gerald's game. Pretty obvious. That's pretty obvious there. for Yeah. Uh, movies, crazy shot, like Flanagan and Anagans. Uh, we got teeth. They, they all have post nut regret. We got Nosferatu, the newest one, or any of them, honestly, but i was one newest ones. Definitely. I mean, she didn't have a choice. That's more real. Uh, this one's pretty dark. We got marriage story.
01:28:26
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Uh, that is a movie you have not seen. That's about couple ah Adam driver and Scarlett Johansson get divorced and you just watch it all unfold. So yeah you said that you basically got married because you wanted to not, and now you're going through a nasty divorce. That's post nut regret for that's an expensive post nut regret.
01:28:43
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She's taking everything. Right. So those are some of those are some of the ways. Basically what I want to do when we review a movie on this podcast, ah we'll just insert a segment of is it does this make the list or does it not make the post net regret list? I am with it. I like that a lot. I have presence as making the list. Yeah, Chloe definitely has post. not She noted. Oh, I mean, this man definitely made her come.
01:29:09
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I mean, she means riding it and fucking moaning hard. But also, right. And also he just to get a nut off dies. True. He's dead. True. I mean, sex wasn't his ultimate goal, but it helped. It's nice. You know, if I'm going to murder someone, i'd I'd rather fuck them first, you know.
01:29:31
Speaker
Right. Yeah. That's odd. That's odd for me to say, but. Well, I think what you're saying, and we've we've covered this on our Black Christmas episode. Go listen to that. That's a wild one. If you want some real wild shit.
01:29:44
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um I think the normal sequential order is rape than murder, not murder than rape. Right. ah what I mean, typically. Typically. We don't know. We're not murderers unless you're the guy from the Poughkeepsie tape episodes out now. Then you got to also by the way, Poughkeepsie tapes doing numbers. So thank you so much for that. You got to use and abuse. You know, I don't know because I don't do that. I don't ah know. I'm just kidding. I didn't mean leaving. I don't know. Use abuse and then defuse.
01:30:15
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defuse situation. Well, I don't think there's any diffusing a situation with someone after you were raped them. It's probably because you're going to go to jail to get raped. Well, you're going to murder them. And then you had a diffused situation like cover it up. Yeah. Fair enough. So anyways, that's our that's my post not regret list. If you have
01:30:40
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Go ahead. So number one so far is the presence. We're on that list. For Post Not Regret? Yeah. for all First official two guys won screen post Post Not Regret nomination. Not the presence, just presence. Yeah, it's just presence, but not presence like what Santa would bring you, but he's not real. ah I think I said it before, but presence is my number two for this year, right behind the count. What is it? The count? The Count Monte Cristo. Yeah, we've rips.
01:31:10
Speaker
All right. We said this is pretty PG, but we all found a fucking tangent. So yeah we're right back up to PG 13 plus. ah And we will see you guys next week. Totals. Fuck you, Mark. And who else were we talking about before? Somebody. Not saying her name. Oh, yeah. I'll give you the goods. All right, bye.